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Submitted by Harry

I would like to pose the question to SIMPSON MOTORS [SHELL], MCENEARNEY, NISSAN and all car importers and the government of Barbados. Why are we not encouraging the importation of cars such as these?

 

Is it possibly because Simpson wants us to buy his cars to buy his fuel? No, not a man who owns his own church. In theory Simpson Motors while playing under the disguise of helping Barbadians to get cars with loans from the banks [thieves] and insurance [again thieves] because unless you actually have a accident which I have not had in over 20 years they are taking my money for nothing in return. And over pricing for his own profit and his kids of course. He has caused in theory the traffic on Barbados roads and the pollution of Barbados air.

Not so? Suzuki every where!

Never mind as long as he can buy his way into heaven it is OK. What he destroys in the name of BEING A MONEY MONGER. What deal do these dealers have with the government? Has anyone ever checked? Demonstrated in the video we can do the same thing here in Barbados. Possibly set up a couple of windmills in SIMPSONS’ front patio over looking the crane where the wind blows day and night.

Think about it.


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  1. The problem is that the hybrrid cars are more expensive than the traditional.
    There are so many things wrong with local transport, from complete lack of policing re drunk drivers, reckless driving, which makes most people afraid to get a fuel efficient small car, to the poor public transport service i.e. not running on specific schedules, poor shelter at bus stands, no provision for cyclists and lack of respect for cyclists on roads.

    Barbadians are in love with Vrtoom Vroom, do not blame Simpson.
    Reality is that the Suzuki is probably the most fuel efficient car imported, because of weight and small engines, but many just are afraid to buy them because of the speeding trucks and reckless driving, hence dont want to be in an accident.

    Then, you have to ask why the government attacked the used car importers using a penalising duty. Very unfair.

    There is so much wrong, that to blame Simpson is ridiculous.

    Barbados is a little island, we do not need high speed limits, we need properly policed roads and efficient ticketing procedures.

    Barbados car industry has generally become rip off land, I actually think Simpson has tried to import cars that can be run cheaply.

    Look at how many small business men used the Suzuki vans to great effect and still use them after 20 years.


  2. cruso. do you work for Simpson?
    if they are more expensive then- the government lower the duty.simply done.give incentives[Monetary] to buy these non fossil fuel burning and polluting cars.
    do you really think men like Simpson care ? do you think this even ever crossed his mind?really?the reason is money.that and that alone.
    i believe he had his daughter marry a black man mainly to make to get more business.hey his daughter is married to a negro so he must be cool ..
    more money.ridiculous prices for crap vehicles. Find out the price to replace parts or get service.never mind he is probably on his private jet now flying to some where where there less Negroes.lol
    you people fall for it every time.
    i got a estimate on a part for my car from MCENEARNEY it was a small part.
    $800 plus vat .i looked online and the part cost $120 us dollars online so i ordered it from them with duty it cost approx $375 bd dollars landed.half the price or more. what does that tell you right there?
    i don’t blame him but when you own a car dealership and gas stations it seems a bit funny don’t it.?????????
    It is the government of barbados that should be looking at all these things
    wind power,electric cars,solar power,any way to solve the traffic and pollution
    that goes with it.the high price of electricity. these things should be on the front burner if the government was genuinely interested in the people.not the Olympics,not selling our land to foreigners.not hotels that sit half empty.etc
    any way it is out there you decide what is right.and i have mentioned others not only Simpson.
    you take your car to be fixed here at a dealership it is like they doing you a favor..
    but you pay through the arse for their favors.


  3. oh forgot to mention ,to get part number from mcripoffnerny. they gave me the wrong numbers. and there was a discussion on if they install the part which was not in stock and could not get it for 2 to 3 weeks if i brought it in myself.
    hell you could fly to Miami and get the part for less than they would charge for some parts.but i used http://www.getezone.com/EzoneContent.aspx?ContentId=6 and had it in a week.
    so you see cruso it is not what it seems in bimshire.


  4. Harry

    Very good campaign… I feel you got a little flaw in your approach … HA HA HA.. Man I likes you bad HA HA HA


  5. they do have electric vans and trucks also by the way.


  6. If we take what is unravelling at the Transport Board as an example i.e. 150:54 expense to revenue ratio, it says that our governments don’t have a clue about pursuing a fuel intervention strategy which is relevant. What is also means is that the tradition business structure continues to feast at the trough. It probably explains why the politicians like it so.

  7. Adrian Loveridge Avatar
    Adrian Loveridge

    I know some may think it a silly idea, but just to get the ball rolling, could Government not consider allowing Courtesy (and any other dealer) to import, say 100 Leaf vehicles DUTY FREE to be used as hire (rental) cars. It would send a powerful message to our prospective visitors that we are at least trying, keep down the ridiculously expensive car rental rates and at least go a little way to reducing imported fuel costs.


  8. good idea Adrian.
    excellent.


  9. We keep forgetting this is ‘price gouging’ Barbados….electricity as well. Has any one really done the maths, to convert what is the cost in electricity dollars to run an electric car? At present we paying $ 1.00 per mile for gasoline…..how many kilowatt hrs cost for 1 equiv. mile will it take to charge up Runnin Bison ? I wont be surprised if rip off gasoline is cheaper…..”rest our solds”

  10. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Adrian Loveridge | August 24, 2012 at 8:19 AM |

    Excellent idea, Adrian! Now that’s what you call “thinking outside the box”.
    These vehicles are ideally suited for the short journeys made in this small island.
    It would also send a strong message that the government is serious about its much promoted “GREENING” policies. Let them walk the walk after talking the talk. Many of the MP & ML vehicles assigned to personnel could also benefit from this switchover.
    But this would not go down well with what “harry” has ‘intelligently’ identified. A competitor whose business interests are currently anathema to any serious greening of this economy would certainly oppose such bold moves by threats of withholding campaign contributions and electoral support from this vested interest clique.

    To harry: Very good post. Thanks! Do you know if there are motor cycle equivalents to this ‘green’ motor car? This would help the small man; many of whom would soon be on the scene after this Greek type shake up of the way we live in Bim.

  11. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Sittin Bull | August 24, 2012 at 9:59 AM |

    It would be a justified cost to pay for a cleaner environment and less destructive economic activities.
    Can’t some of the electricity for these vehicles be provided by more and improved solar and wind generating technologies?
    We can’t just sit down like a lazy old bull (lol!) and do nothing to restructure our economy and green our environment both physical and social.
    You need to make peace offering by lighting your smoking pipe from the rays of the Sun instead of a kerosene lamp.


  12. sitting bull hit the nail on the head. hybryds are only worth the while if it is cheaper to run than gas, barbados has extremly high electric rates. Do the maths first. plus all our electricity produced using fossil fuels so there is no environmental benifit.

    Owen lowered the taxes on small cars under 1300 cc when he was in offiece and the retail prices did not budge. the concession was used as an extra profit. the usual in sweet Bim.

    The small cars have the same saftey record as the larger ones these days, crash bars in the doors, airbags etc. we prefer to buy the larger cars because of status and ego not for saftey reasons.

    in most developed countries there are massive concessions for small city/kia cars ( swift, alto, spark, mazda 2, 205, and those size) because they use less resources to build, reduce cingestion( more cars on the same strech but a shorter line) also burning less fuel and thus using less foreign exchange. also the wear and tear on the roads are less due to the weight of the car and the parts last longer aas they are under less strain.

    it is a win for all except the ego and status.

    in a flat country with paved roads andno mountains how can one say that it is matter of praticality or need to have so many SUVs most of which do not go off road as indicated by their lack of off road tyres and absence of mud on them.


  13. @tedd

    Why do we confine our thinking to the box?

    If we bring in 200 duty free cars as Adrian suggested it presents opportunity for an entrepreneur to build a ‘gas’ station powered by solar/wind. The initiative should not be seen as just bringing in electric or hybrid car, the ancillary support would have to be factored.

    Hybrids and Electronic cars are expensive because of duties and the lack of desire by the establishment and consumer to shift behaviours.

  14. Adrian Loveridge Avatar
    Adrian Loveridge

    David,
    Find 9 others and I would be willing put up $10,000 towards a $100,000 prize that would be awarded to any Barbadian that designs and builds a suitable solar/wind charger that could be used to power these vehicles.
    Imagine the export potential. I would also insist that a certain percentage of these vehicles are operated by Government. They already get them duty/VAT free.
    I can offset the $10,000 against tax liabilities.


  15. @ Miller
    We can’t just sit down like a lazy old bull (lol!) and do nothing to restructure our economy and green our environment both physical and social.
    ************************
    Agree by all means. I remember the first oil crisis and more, and every time since then, there was this call for an alternative sustainable energy development. I was all for it then and now (though I sit now more often). Of greater importance however, is the prevailing financial environment in which to attempt this laudable thrust, but can we really afford it?…. Do give consideration to the fact that we have been so much closer to launching off into solar panels for electricity, now for so long, yet the powers that be, subtle attempts at millstone-ing.
    My recommendation, (if I may be so presumptuous) is to develope the solar -electricity thrust first and later power such cars’ batteries with solar generated electricity….greener than green, lol.

  16. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ tedd | August 24, 2012 at 12:04 PM |
    ” in a flat country with paved roads andno mountains how can one say that it is matter of praticality or need to have so many SUVs most of which do not go off road as indicated by their lack of off road tyres and absence of mud on them.”

    Very good points raised in your post. The point about granting concessions and incentives to owners of smaller and more efficient vehicles is most relevant to Barbados given our road network. The cost of ownership and maintaining small fuel efficient vehicles can be incentivized through the tax system to encourage “greener’ behaviours.
    But how would you go about ‘penalizing’ those most unsuited SUVs from burning up our fast disappearing forex? Should we increase import duties to say 300% of CIF? Should we create a separate category in our road tax regime that would see these vehicles attracting an annual tax of say $3,000.00 while at the same time lowering or eliminating the road tax for very fuel efficient smaller vehicles and hybrids?
    It’s time that the government stop with the long talk and make those profligate car owners bite the bullet. There are alternatives with huge incentives so there will be no justification for crying “Discrimination”. The days of wine and roses are over and it’s time we put our hands to the plough to save our country.

  17. Beverly Yearwood Avatar
    Beverly Yearwood

    Recommended retail price of a Toyota Rav4 (recommended by Toyota itself): US$ 22,650 for a basic model.

    See http://www.toyota.com/rav4/trims-prices.html

    Price of a basic Rav4 at Nassco in Barbados: US$ 47,500.

    See http://www.nassco-barbados.com/vehicleindex.cfm?pagetype=overview&carModelID=3&category=10

    Price difference: more than 100 percent.

    Other words: if an American man in New York buys a Rav4 and a Bajan woman in Oistins buys a Rav4, the Bajan will pay MORE THAN TWICE AS MUCH as the American.

    Question: what does the Barbados government do with the 100 percent import duty?

    I can see the need for some restraints on the number of cars on Bajan roads, relative to the number on the vastly more extensive and infinitely superior roads of New York State. Where, though, does the money actually go in Barbados?

    Suggestion that almost nobody in Bim will ever take seriously: the Bermuda approach. Maximum one car per household, no exceptions. Get a scooter. And enforce the law.


  18. electric bicycles or scooters are also out there .have been for a long time.
    from what i gather you could rig up a solar panel to charge these vehicles.there fore after repaying the initial cost it would be free from then on..
    free driving and riding.
    the technology is already here.
    you can buy solar panels online right now that will power your whole house.
    what gets me is why is it not on the front burner of the barbados government?
    and windmills.it is all here now and has been for a good few years .
    but not in barbados.
    why not?ask yourself?ask barbados electric company.!
    we bajans sit and do nothing and getting deeper and deeper into the hands of
    the monopolies.i smell a payola.,!


  19. the oil companies are the ones buying the patents to longer and stronger batteries, and all inventions that reduce our dependency on oil are quickly bought up by the oil companies ,
    could be some times by force.before we get to see them..or hear about them.
    come on we can land on mars but not find a alternative to oil?really?
    god darn it i tried.!
    harry tried.!
    i getting tired of this trying.it weakens my very soul.
    to see these injustices..
    not just things like this but to watch barbados crumble.
    when the answers[technology] are already here but not used.——
    we need a man like Ron Paul as prime minister who speaks the truth to the people.do we have one like him?sadly no not even close.
    and to those that say about the cost of recharging against gas please look up
    what is it you see shining.and what do you feel blowing especially on the east coast of barbados.
    as a matter of fact do we consumers get to see the profit the electric company is making by using diesel turbines.
    do we get to see why the electricity is so expensive??????????
    i wish you all well.


  20. You people are out to lunch. The pseudo greend technology is not yet suited to Barbados, it is not yet efficient, the capital cost of cars is expensive and god help you trying to find a mechanic to fix the computers etc when the garage gives you an extravagant bill to fix. You really think it will be cheaper?

    NO WAY.

    Y’all will get burnt, big time.

    As for Harry, no, no I not work for Simpson, I just understand the issues involved.

    The new technology will be difficult to maintain in Barbado where the Transport Board cannot even keep diesel vehicles running.

    The only logical suggestion is encouaging the greater use of smaller cars, and improving the transport system and scheduling.

    Out to lunch, absolutely!


  21. As for Harry, bit jealous that the lovely lass found someone nicer than you, is it? No need to bring everything back to black and white.


  22. Is this the SAME BIGOT HARRY that was cussing us Black people stink ? And wunna having a conversation with this DESPOT?


  23. …….murder, I was waiting for this.


  24. @Crusoe

    The current state provides the opportunity for an innovative little country to make a solution of this because our survival depends on it.. We have to stop being followers and see how we can influence end states.

  25. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Crusoe | August 24, 2012 at 4:13 PM |

    So Crusoe you telling us that the government is lying to us about the ‘greening’ of the economy and really pulling green cotton wool over our eyes? Fuels used in vehicles represent significant components of our imported oil bill.
    What will happen when the foreign reserves get real low? Import the food and medicines or the fossil based fuels for vehicles?
    I want to side with harry on this one. Despite his racist side he still has the future of Bim at heart. His proposals are realistic and relevant to our local conditions and, although initially expensive, represent the future of transport, at least domestic and private aspects of it.
    I think we should listen to him and take his proposals seriously.

    You might not be aware but don’t believe what the governor or the Minister of Finance is saying about the healthy state of our foreign reserves. The figure quoted is in Barbados dollars with many of the elements that make up that sum are not of an immediate “liquidity” nature probably with some SDRs (special drawing rights) in the mix.

    Commonsense would tell you that if more water is flowing out of a tank from both its exit or bung hole and through widespread leaks than what is being poured in there will come a time rather soon when the tank becomes embarrassingly low of water.
    What do we do then? Plug the holes only or plug the leaky holes and find more water to pout into the tank?

    Believing these people is like believing Darcy Boyce telling the accountants of Barbados (of all people!) that the international business sector in Barbados is doing fine with the best ever favourable results ever recorded. Why should we doubt him? After all he could have been one of the architects of the DLP 2008 manifesto.


  26. it is people like crusoe that keep us backward.
    guess he has never traveled abroad where these things are a big deal.
    in fact i remember Obama promising in his wonderful speeches
    that one of his campaign promises was to get America to work intently so they would need less oil.
    any one else remember?
    crusoe perfect example of bajan ignorance.


  27. there ya go barbados government.save millions on street lighting.
    no charge.


  28. Harry yuh is stinking piece of cat shit! I am disappointed by the rest of the BU fambily tawking to dis shoite.

  29. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ harry:

    Tell them, especially islandgal, that you are a changed man who has seen the Light, thanks to the guidance and some verbal slaps across your erstwhile racist brain (can a leopard change his spots?). He is so remorseful that he even plans to marry a negress as his bed wench.

    Although we would all like to crucify harry the messenger what he is saying is very important. We just can’t go on living like this hooked on fossil fuels when other countries with less sun and wind than us are going full speed ahead. What are we waiting for? For Trinidad to sell us solar panels and wind turbines?


  30. Miller you are a Traitor! Harry needs to give us an apology! Harry Apologize to us NOW!


  31. HARRY ……I am waiting!

  32. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ islandgal246 | August 24, 2012 at 6:18 PM |
    “HARRY ……I am waiting!”

    @harry: You need to be man enough and apologize for your asinine racist remarks.
    Prove to them (Sha’Wayne Worrell-Alleyene included) that even a sinner can become a saint with the help of the Light.

    But calling the miller a “Traitor” is not going to cut it.
    First the miller, in the final analysis, doesn’t care a ra*s or pus*y clat about anything; not even death. The miller already knows where he is going and who is taking him there.
    Second the worst thing to do is to side with “Ignorance” in whichever colour it presents its stupid self. What harry has said, for once, makes sense. Why should I not recognize that? If the god that stupid black people believe in can make a wicked bitch called Satan why the hell can’t I side with harry the son of that bitch if he says something worth listening to. Your God, even Jesus had a very long conversation with the Devil before he said “get thee behind me” whatever that means.
    I would do the same to harry if he continues with his racist bumba clat sho*te.


  33. i could say sorry for racist comments .so here i go,
    sorry for the racist comments.
    but island girl have you grown up as a white in barbados?
    not a rich one either.?
    i been called names,tried to be beaten , as a youngster by blacks.
    you see you have not walked a mile in my shoes.
    and cruso i haven’t lost any body .it is the mentality of bajan men that think white want them[some do but only a tiny percentage].,think with their penis instead of their brain.
    .
    since the school system has changed to mixed boys and girls my white niece has been raped by 3 black boys.but they threaten her not to tell or they will bring more boys.
    these things go on every day here and the white school girls are too ashamed or scared to tell.
    so that could ad to my way of thinking.
    i suspect the ones who are not aware of the advances in technology are the ones saying it could not work.or either work for the car or electric companies.
    or have no vision.
    i leffing it there.
    kisses xoxo


  34. here is where i live and will be back there soon.
    but i will keep in touch.
    it is the opposite to here.!
    http://youtu.be/hxqCfbRuRUs


  35. i gonna side wid crusoe on this one. the hidden charges are in repair and mainteance . not cheap. if allthat harry say is so practical how come most american still use ole fashion powwr driven cars fueled by gas. any thing that has to be produced using the oil as its source is going to cost and that is everything.


  36. harry | August 24, 2012 at 8:12 AM |
    they do have electric vans and trucks also by the way.
    ……………………………………………………………………
    I attended a truck expo in the States a few years ago and was fascinated by a diesel / electric hybrid truck that would have been ideal for much of the medium truck applications in Barbados. But alas the one major drawback was the mounting arrangement of the large ,heavy batteries. Given the uneven and much potholed state of our roads, the battery stand would be forever breaking off from its attachment to the chassis frame.
    I have seen a few of these trucks now operating in Barbados, but without the hybrid mode.


  37. harry | August 24, 2012 at 7:35 AM |
    cruso. do you work for Simpson?

    i believe he had his daughter marry a black man mainly to make to get more business.hey his daughter is married to a negro so he must be cool ..
    more money.ridiculous prices for crap vehicles. Find out the price to replace parts or get service.never mind he is probably on his private jet now flying to some where where there less Negroes.lol
    you people fall for it every time.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Fer Christ sake,man stop playing your well worn race card.


  38. Adrian Loveridge | August 24, 2012 at 8:19 AM |
    I know some may think it a silly idea, but just to get the ball rolling, could Government not consider allowing Courtesy (and any other dealer) to import, say 100 Leaf vehicles DUTY FREE to be used as hire (rental) cars. It would send a powerful message to our prospective visitors that we are at least trying, keep down the ridiculously expensive car rental rates and at least go a little way to reducing imported fuel costs.
    ………………………………………………………………………………………..
    The Taximen now get their vehicles duty -free , but this has in no way reduce the cost of a taxi ride.


  39. millertheanunnaki | August 24, 2012 at 2:13 PM |
    But how would you go about ‘penalizing’ those most unsuited SUVs from burning up our fast disappearing forex? Should we increase import duties to say 300% of CIF? Should we create a separate category in our road tax regime that would see these vehicles attracting an
    ………………………………………………………………………………
    On the other hand SUV ‘s could last three or four times longer that your average car. There are Land Rovers and other SUV’s some 15/20/30 years old and are still going strong, whereas other standard car owners might have had 3/ 4 / 6 renewals respectively, during those same periods. So who is really saving forex?


  40. Crusoe | August 24, 2012 at 4:13 PM |

    The new technology will be difficult to maintain in Barbados where the Transport Board cannot even keep diesel vehicles running.

    ……………………………………………………………………………………….
    And just today we heard that the reason why BWA is unable to service its customers with emergency water supply during its many recent water outages, is due to the fact that only 3 of its 18 water tankers are serviceable.
    All across the island there are complaints of non pickups by the Sanitation Service Authority. Most likely ,yet again, only a small percentage of their units are operating.
    We have a real struggle with ordinary run-of-the-mill old technology. We cannot maintain bugger all in Barbados, and are asking for new technology. Arte-et-Marte.


  41. slandgal246 | August 24, 2012 at 5:17 PM |
    Harry yuh is stinking piece of cat shit! I am disappointed by the rest of the BU fambily tawking to dis shoit
    ———————————————————————————–
    Be kind to Harry,sis, chances are he could be your brother or cousin.,especially if your father was a Gardener or Chauffeur.

  42. Adrian Loveridge Avatar
    Adrian Loveridge

    Colonel Buggy,

    Not sure how you can draw that conclusion.
    To qualify for purchase of a duty free vehicle, a taxi driver has to hold a licence first for five years.


  43. @HARRY ”crusoe perfect example of bajan ignorance.”

    No, I actually understand technlogy and applications VERY well. The issue is that you are looking at it like a simpleton.

    I explained why it is not suitable and why being at the cutting edge of technology, with all its pitfalls is not always wise, further, mass electric motor generation tech is not really cutting edge, it is expensive and inappropriate for us. And,…further again, where do you think electricity comes from?

    The US has many nuclear (every state) power stations, hence why their electricity is cheaper, but even then, their electric motor tech has not bee m applied widely.

    It would be nice….but….reality is another matter.

    The solutions I proposed re smaller cars, efficient and safe public transport are not only practical, possible but more reliable IF implemented properly.

    How can anyone even think of implenting new technology (which they THINK they understand but do not), when current process and standards have not even being bst implemented for success?

    THAT is management 101.


  44. David | August 24, 2012 at 4:46 PM |

    @Crusoe

    The current state provides the opportunity for an innovative little country to make a solution of this because our survival depends on it.. We have to stop being followers and see how we can influence end states.
    —————————

    Easy to say, but there are two issues.

    1) We have proven that we cannot and choose not to service current technology and implement simple processes for improvement
    2) Mass electric motors are simply another way to utilise energy.

    The bog issue for a small economy, is how best to implement exisitng and new technology as sustaibale over the short, medium and long term, at most efficient and least cost.

    Problem is, mass electric technology can be implemented as a supplement to fossil fuel, mainly in infrastructre (solar house energy etc), but where the article started i.e. motor vehicles, is a long way off and currently not appropriate for Barbados and will not be for some time.


  45. One last thing,

    Maybe one should spend more time thinking about why government implemented a requirement to have vehicles over a certain age to have a gargae certify roadworthiness.

    This has never been an issue in Barbaos and is just another cost to the average man. Further, it puts pwoer back into the cartel that is the car industry, similar to the financial crippling of the imported used car busines by the additional levy on those cars.

    Government cannot keep its own vehicles running, but the avaerage man who uses a good sole mechanic to keep his car good, much cheaper than the garages, now have to go to same garages at expense, to have them ‘certified’.

    What a joke.

    Blame government , not Simpson.

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