Running 2000cc Fossil Engines On Cart Roads

Submitted by Harry

I would like to pose the question to SIMPSON MOTORS [SHELL], MCENEARNEY, NISSAN and all car importers and the government of Barbados. Why are we not encouraging the importation of cars such as these?

 

Is it possibly because Simpson wants us to buy his cars to buy his fuel? No, not a man who owns his own church. In theory Simpson Motors while playing under the disguise of helping Barbadians to get cars with loans from the banks [thieves] and insurance [again thieves] because unless you actually have a accident which I have not had in over 20 years they are taking my money for nothing in return. And over pricing for his own profit and his kids of course. He has caused in theory the traffic on Barbados roads and the pollution of Barbados air.

Not so? Suzuki every where!

Never mind as long as he can buy his way into heaven it is OK. What he destroys in the name of BEING A MONEY MONGER. What deal do these dealers have with the government? Has anyone ever checked? Demonstrated in the video we can do the same thing here in Barbados. Possibly set up a couple of windmills in SIMPSONS’ front patio over looking the crane where the wind blows day and night.

Think about it.

0 thoughts on “Running 2000cc Fossil Engines On Cart Roads


  1. The problem is that the hybrrid cars are more expensive than the traditional.
    There are so many things wrong with local transport, from complete lack of policing re drunk drivers, reckless driving, which makes most people afraid to get a fuel efficient small car, to the poor public transport service i.e. not running on specific schedules, poor shelter at bus stands, no provision for cyclists and lack of respect for cyclists on roads.

    Barbadians are in love with Vrtoom Vroom, do not blame Simpson.
    Reality is that the Suzuki is probably the most fuel efficient car imported, because of weight and small engines, but many just are afraid to buy them because of the speeding trucks and reckless driving, hence dont want to be in an accident.

    Then, you have to ask why the government attacked the used car importers using a penalising duty. Very unfair.

    There is so much wrong, that to blame Simpson is ridiculous.

    Barbados is a little island, we do not need high speed limits, we need properly policed roads and efficient ticketing procedures.

    Barbados car industry has generally become rip off land, I actually think Simpson has tried to import cars that can be run cheaply.

    Look at how many small business men used the Suzuki vans to great effect and still use them after 20 years.


  2. cruso. do you work for Simpson?
    if they are more expensive then- the government lower the duty.simply done.give incentives[Monetary] to buy these non fossil fuel burning and polluting cars.
    do you really think men like Simpson care ? do you think this even ever crossed his mind?really?the reason is money.that and that alone.
    i believe he had his daughter marry a black man mainly to make to get more business.hey his daughter is married to a negro so he must be cool ..
    more money.ridiculous prices for crap vehicles. Find out the price to replace parts or get service.never mind he is probably on his private jet now flying to some where where there less Negroes.lol
    you people fall for it every time.
    i got a estimate on a part for my car from MCENEARNEY it was a small part.
    $800 plus vat .i looked online and the part cost $120 us dollars online so i ordered it from them with duty it cost approx $375 bd dollars landed.half the price or more. what does that tell you right there?
    i don’t blame him but when you own a car dealership and gas stations it seems a bit funny don’t it.?????????
    It is the government of barbados that should be looking at all these things
    wind power,electric cars,solar power,any way to solve the traffic and pollution
    that goes with it.the high price of electricity. these things should be on the front burner if the government was genuinely interested in the people.not the Olympics,not selling our land to foreigners.not hotels that sit half empty.etc
    any way it is out there you decide what is right.and i have mentioned others not only Simpson.
    you take your car to be fixed here at a dealership it is like they doing you a favor..
    but you pay through the arse for their favors.


  3. oh forgot to mention ,to get part number from mcripoffnerny. they gave me the wrong numbers. and there was a discussion on if they install the part which was not in stock and could not get it for 2 to 3 weeks if i brought it in myself.
    hell you could fly to Miami and get the part for less than they would charge for some parts.but i used http://www.getezone.com/EzoneContent.aspx?ContentId=6 and had it in a week.
    so you see cruso it is not what it seems in bimshire.


  4. If we take what is unravelling at the Transport Board as an example i.e. 150:54 expense to revenue ratio, it says that our governments don’t have a clue about pursuing a fuel intervention strategy which is relevant. What is also means is that the tradition business structure continues to feast at the trough. It probably explains why the politicians like it so.


  5. I know some may think it a silly idea, but just to get the ball rolling, could Government not consider allowing Courtesy (and any other dealer) to import, say 100 Leaf vehicles DUTY FREE to be used as hire (rental) cars. It would send a powerful message to our prospective visitors that we are at least trying, keep down the ridiculously expensive car rental rates and at least go a little way to reducing imported fuel costs.


  6. We keep forgetting this is ‘price gouging’ Barbados….electricity as well. Has any one really done the maths, to convert what is the cost in electricity dollars to run an electric car? At present we paying $ 1.00 per mile for gasoline…..how many kilowatt hrs cost for 1 equiv. mile will it take to charge up Runnin Bison ? I wont be surprised if rip off gasoline is cheaper…..”rest our solds”


  7. @ Adrian Loveridge | August 24, 2012 at 8:19 AM |

    Excellent idea, Adrian! Now that’s what you call “thinking outside the box”.
    These vehicles are ideally suited for the short journeys made in this small island.
    It would also send a strong message that the government is serious about its much promoted “GREENING” policies. Let them walk the walk after talking the talk. Many of the MP & ML vehicles assigned to personnel could also benefit from this switchover.
    But this would not go down well with what “harry” has ‘intelligently’ identified. A competitor whose business interests are currently anathema to any serious greening of this economy would certainly oppose such bold moves by threats of withholding campaign contributions and electoral support from this vested interest clique.

    To harry: Very good post. Thanks! Do you know if there are motor cycle equivalents to this ‘green’ motor car? This would help the small man; many of whom would soon be on the scene after this Greek type shake up of the way we live in Bim.


  8. @ Sittin Bull | August 24, 2012 at 9:59 AM |

    It would be a justified cost to pay for a cleaner environment and less destructive economic activities.
    Can’t some of the electricity for these vehicles be provided by more and improved solar and wind generating technologies?
    We can’t just sit down like a lazy old bull (lol!) and do nothing to restructure our economy and green our environment both physical and social.
    You need to make peace offering by lighting your smoking pipe from the rays of the Sun instead of a kerosene lamp.


  9. sitting bull hit the nail on the head. hybryds are only worth the while if it is cheaper to run than gas, barbados has extremly high electric rates. Do the maths first. plus all our electricity produced using fossil fuels so there is no environmental benifit.

    Owen lowered the taxes on small cars under 1300 cc when he was in offiece and the retail prices did not budge. the concession was used as an extra profit. the usual in sweet Bim.

    The small cars have the same saftey record as the larger ones these days, crash bars in the doors, airbags etc. we prefer to buy the larger cars because of status and ego not for saftey reasons.

    in most developed countries there are massive concessions for small city/kia cars ( swift, alto, spark, mazda 2, 205, and those size) because they use less resources to build, reduce cingestion( more cars on the same strech but a shorter line) also burning less fuel and thus using less foreign exchange. also the wear and tear on the roads are less due to the weight of the car and the parts last longer aas they are under less strain.

    it is a win for all except the ego and status.

    in a flat country with paved roads andno mountains how can one say that it is matter of praticality or need to have so many SUVs most of which do not go off road as indicated by their lack of off road tyres and absence of mud on them.


  10. @tedd

    Why do we confine our thinking to the box?

    If we bring in 200 duty free cars as Adrian suggested it presents opportunity for an entrepreneur to build a ‘gas’ station powered by solar/wind. The initiative should not be seen as just bringing in electric or hybrid car, the ancillary support would have to be factored.

    Hybrids and Electronic cars are expensive because of duties and the lack of desire by the establishment and consumer to shift behaviours.


  11. David,
    Find 9 others and I would be willing put up $10,000 towards a $100,000 prize that would be awarded to any Barbadian that designs and builds a suitable solar/wind charger that could be used to power these vehicles.
    Imagine the export potential. I would also insist that a certain percentage of these vehicles are operated by Government. They already get them duty/VAT free.
    I can offset the $10,000 against tax liabilities.


  12. @ Miller
    We can’t just sit down like a lazy old bull (lol!) and do nothing to restructure our economy and green our environment both physical and social.
    ************************
    Agree by all means. I remember the first oil crisis and more, and every time since then, there was this call for an alternative sustainable energy development. I was all for it then and now (though I sit now more often). Of greater importance however, is the prevailing financial environment in which to attempt this laudable thrust, but can we really afford it?…. Do give consideration to the fact that we have been so much closer to launching off into solar panels for electricity, now for so long, yet the powers that be, subtle attempts at millstone-ing.
    My recommendation, (if I may be so presumptuous) is to develope the solar -electricity thrust first and later power such cars’ batteries with solar generated electricity….greener than green, lol.


  13. @ tedd | August 24, 2012 at 12:04 PM |
    ” in a flat country with paved roads andno mountains how can one say that it is matter of praticality or need to have so many SUVs most of which do not go off road as indicated by their lack of off road tyres and absence of mud on them.”

    Very good points raised in your post. The point about granting concessions and incentives to owners of smaller and more efficient vehicles is most relevant to Barbados given our road network. The cost of ownership and maintaining small fuel efficient vehicles can be incentivized through the tax system to encourage “greener’ behaviours.
    But how would you go about ‘penalizing’ those most unsuited SUVs from burning up our fast disappearing forex? Should we increase import duties to say 300% of CIF? Should we create a separate category in our road tax regime that would see these vehicles attracting an annual tax of say $3,000.00 while at the same time lowering or eliminating the road tax for very fuel efficient smaller vehicles and hybrids?
    It’s time that the government stop with the long talk and make those profligate car owners bite the bullet. There are alternatives with huge incentives so there will be no justification for crying “Discrimination”. The days of wine and roses are over and it’s time we put our hands to the plough to save our country.


  14. Recommended retail price of a Toyota Rav4 (recommended by Toyota itself): US$ 22,650 for a basic model.

    See http://www.toyota.com/rav4/trims-prices.html

    Price of a basic Rav4 at Nassco in Barbados: US$ 47,500.

    See http://www.nassco-barbados.com/vehicleindex.cfm?pagetype=overview&carModelID=3&category=10

    Price difference: more than 100 percent.

    Other words: if an American man in New York buys a Rav4 and a Bajan woman in Oistins buys a Rav4, the Bajan will pay MORE THAN TWICE AS MUCH as the American.

    Question: what does the Barbados government do with the 100 percent import duty?

    I can see the need for some restraints on the number of cars on Bajan roads, relative to the number on the vastly more extensive and infinitely superior roads of New York State. Where, though, does the money actually go in Barbados?

    Suggestion that almost nobody in Bim will ever take seriously: the Bermuda approach. Maximum one car per household, no exceptions. Get a scooter. And enforce the law.


  15. electric bicycles or scooters are also out there .have been for a long time.
    from what i gather you could rig up a solar panel to charge these vehicles.there fore after repaying the initial cost it would be free from then on..
    free driving and riding.
    the technology is already here.
    you can buy solar panels online right now that will power your whole house.
    what gets me is why is it not on the front burner of the barbados government?
    and windmills.it is all here now and has been for a good few years .
    but not in barbados.
    why not?ask yourself?ask barbados electric company.!
    we bajans sit and do nothing and getting deeper and deeper into the hands of
    the monopolies.i smell a payola.,!


  16. the oil companies are the ones buying the patents to longer and stronger batteries, and all inventions that reduce our dependency on oil are quickly bought up by the oil companies ,
    could be some times by force.before we get to see them..or hear about them.
    come on we can land on mars but not find a alternative to oil?really?
    god darn it i tried.!
    harry tried.!
    i getting tired of this trying.it weakens my very soul.
    to see these injustices..
    not just things like this but to watch barbados crumble.
    when the answers[technology] are already here but not used.——
    we need a man like Ron Paul as prime minister who speaks the truth to the people.do we have one like him?sadly no not even close.
    and to those that say about the cost of recharging against gas please look up
    what is it you see shining.and what do you feel blowing especially on the east coast of barbados.
    as a matter of fact do we consumers get to see the profit the electric company is making by using diesel turbines.
    do we get to see why the electricity is so expensive??????????
    i wish you all well.


  17. You people are out to lunch. The pseudo greend technology is not yet suited to Barbados, it is not yet efficient, the capital cost of cars is expensive and god help you trying to find a mechanic to fix the computers etc when the garage gives you an extravagant bill to fix. You really think it will be cheaper?

    NO WAY.

    Y’all will get burnt, big time.

    As for Harry, no, no I not work for Simpson, I just understand the issues involved.

    The new technology will be difficult to maintain in Barbado where the Transport Board cannot even keep diesel vehicles running.

    The only logical suggestion is encouaging the greater use of smaller cars, and improving the transport system and scheduling.

    Out to lunch, absolutely!


  18. As for Harry, bit jealous that the lovely lass found someone nicer than you, is it? No need to bring everything back to black and white.


  19. Is this the SAME BIGOT HARRY that was cussing us Black people stink ? And wunna having a conversation with this DESPOT?


  20. @Crusoe

    The current state provides the opportunity for an innovative little country to make a solution of this because our survival depends on it.. We have to stop being followers and see how we can influence end states.


  21. @ Crusoe | August 24, 2012 at 4:13 PM |

    So Crusoe you telling us that the government is lying to us about the ‘greening’ of the economy and really pulling green cotton wool over our eyes? Fuels used in vehicles represent significant components of our imported oil bill.
    What will happen when the foreign reserves get real low? Import the food and medicines or the fossil based fuels for vehicles?
    I want to side with harry on this one. Despite his racist side he still has the future of Bim at heart. His proposals are realistic and relevant to our local conditions and, although initially expensive, represent the future of transport, at least domestic and private aspects of it.
    I think we should listen to him and take his proposals seriously.

    You might not be aware but don’t believe what the governor or the Minister of Finance is saying about the healthy state of our foreign reserves. The figure quoted is in Barbados dollars with many of the elements that make up that sum are not of an immediate “liquidity” nature probably with some SDRs (special drawing rights) in the mix.

    Commonsense would tell you that if more water is flowing out of a tank from both its exit or bung hole and through widespread leaks than what is being poured in there will come a time rather soon when the tank becomes embarrassingly low of water.
    What do we do then? Plug the holes only or plug the leaky holes and find more water to pout into the tank?

    Believing these people is like believing Darcy Boyce telling the accountants of Barbados (of all people!) that the international business sector in Barbados is doing fine with the best ever favourable results ever recorded. Why should we doubt him? After all he could have been one of the architects of the DLP 2008 manifesto.


  22. it is people like crusoe that keep us backward.
    guess he has never traveled abroad where these things are a big deal.
    in fact i remember Obama promising in his wonderful speeches
    that one of his campaign promises was to get America to work intently so they would need less oil.
    any one else remember?
    crusoe perfect example of bajan ignorance.


  23. Harry yuh is stinking piece of cat shit! I am disappointed by the rest of the BU fambily tawking to dis shoite.


  24. @ harry:

    Tell them, especially islandgal, that you are a changed man who has seen the Light, thanks to the guidance and some verbal slaps across your erstwhile racist brain (can a leopard change his spots?). He is so remorseful that he even plans to marry a negress as his bed wench.

    Although we would all like to crucify harry the messenger what he is saying is very important. We just can’t go on living like this hooked on fossil fuels when other countries with less sun and wind than us are going full speed ahead. What are we waiting for? For Trinidad to sell us solar panels and wind turbines?


  25. @ islandgal246 | August 24, 2012 at 6:18 PM |
    “HARRY ……I am waiting!”

    @harry: You need to be man enough and apologize for your asinine racist remarks.
    Prove to them (Sha’Wayne Worrell-Alleyene included) that even a sinner can become a saint with the help of the Light.

    But calling the miller a “Traitor” is not going to cut it.
    First the miller, in the final analysis, doesn’t care a ra*s or pus*y clat about anything; not even death. The miller already knows where he is going and who is taking him there.
    Second the worst thing to do is to side with “Ignorance” in whichever colour it presents its stupid self. What harry has said, for once, makes sense. Why should I not recognize that? If the god that stupid black people believe in can make a wicked bitch called Satan why the hell can’t I side with harry the son of that bitch if he says something worth listening to. Your God, even Jesus had a very long conversation with the Devil before he said “get thee behind me” whatever that means.
    I would do the same to harry if he continues with his racist bumba clat sho*te.


  26. i could say sorry for racist comments .so here i go,
    sorry for the racist comments.
    but island girl have you grown up as a white in barbados?
    not a rich one either.?
    i been called names,tried to be beaten , as a youngster by blacks.
    you see you have not walked a mile in my shoes.
    and cruso i haven’t lost any body .it is the mentality of bajan men that think white want them[some do but only a tiny percentage].,think with their penis instead of their brain.
    .
    since the school system has changed to mixed boys and girls my white niece has been raped by 3 black boys.but they threaten her not to tell or they will bring more boys.
    these things go on every day here and the white school girls are too ashamed or scared to tell.
    so that could ad to my way of thinking.
    i suspect the ones who are not aware of the advances in technology are the ones saying it could not work.or either work for the car or electric companies.
    or have no vision.
    i leffing it there.
    kisses xoxo


  27. i gonna side wid crusoe on this one. the hidden charges are in repair and mainteance . not cheap. if allthat harry say is so practical how come most american still use ole fashion powwr driven cars fueled by gas. any thing that has to be produced using the oil as its source is going to cost and that is everything.


  28. harry | August 24, 2012 at 8:12 AM |
    they do have electric vans and trucks also by the way.
    ……………………………………………………………………
    I attended a truck expo in the States a few years ago and was fascinated by a diesel / electric hybrid truck that would have been ideal for much of the medium truck applications in Barbados. But alas the one major drawback was the mounting arrangement of the large ,heavy batteries. Given the uneven and much potholed state of our roads, the battery stand would be forever breaking off from its attachment to the chassis frame.
    I have seen a few of these trucks now operating in Barbados, but without the hybrid mode.


  29. harry | August 24, 2012 at 7:35 AM |
    cruso. do you work for Simpson?

    i believe he had his daughter marry a black man mainly to make to get more business.hey his daughter is married to a negro so he must be cool ..
    more money.ridiculous prices for crap vehicles. Find out the price to replace parts or get service.never mind he is probably on his private jet now flying to some where where there less Negroes.lol
    you people fall for it every time.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Fer Christ sake,man stop playing your well worn race card.


  30. Adrian Loveridge | August 24, 2012 at 8:19 AM |
    I know some may think it a silly idea, but just to get the ball rolling, could Government not consider allowing Courtesy (and any other dealer) to import, say 100 Leaf vehicles DUTY FREE to be used as hire (rental) cars. It would send a powerful message to our prospective visitors that we are at least trying, keep down the ridiculously expensive car rental rates and at least go a little way to reducing imported fuel costs.
    ………………………………………………………………………………………..
    The Taximen now get their vehicles duty -free , but this has in no way reduce the cost of a taxi ride.


  31. millertheanunnaki | August 24, 2012 at 2:13 PM |
    But how would you go about ‘penalizing’ those most unsuited SUVs from burning up our fast disappearing forex? Should we increase import duties to say 300% of CIF? Should we create a separate category in our road tax regime that would see these vehicles attracting an
    ………………………………………………………………………………
    On the other hand SUV ‘s could last three or four times longer that your average car. There are Land Rovers and other SUV’s some 15/20/30 years old and are still going strong, whereas other standard car owners might have had 3/ 4 / 6 renewals respectively, during those same periods. So who is really saving forex?


  32. Crusoe | August 24, 2012 at 4:13 PM |

    The new technology will be difficult to maintain in Barbados where the Transport Board cannot even keep diesel vehicles running.

    ……………………………………………………………………………………….
    And just today we heard that the reason why BWA is unable to service its customers with emergency water supply during its many recent water outages, is due to the fact that only 3 of its 18 water tankers are serviceable.
    All across the island there are complaints of non pickups by the Sanitation Service Authority. Most likely ,yet again, only a small percentage of their units are operating.
    We have a real struggle with ordinary run-of-the-mill old technology. We cannot maintain bugger all in Barbados, and are asking for new technology. Arte-et-Marte.


  33. slandgal246 | August 24, 2012 at 5:17 PM |
    Harry yuh is stinking piece of cat shit! I am disappointed by the rest of the BU fambily tawking to dis shoit
    ———————————————————————————–
    Be kind to Harry,sis, chances are he could be your brother or cousin.,especially if your father was a Gardener or Chauffeur.


  34. Colonel Buggy,

    Not sure how you can draw that conclusion.
    To qualify for purchase of a duty free vehicle, a taxi driver has to hold a licence first for five years.


  35. @HARRY ”crusoe perfect example of bajan ignorance.”

    No, I actually understand technlogy and applications VERY well. The issue is that you are looking at it like a simpleton.

    I explained why it is not suitable and why being at the cutting edge of technology, with all its pitfalls is not always wise, further, mass electric motor generation tech is not really cutting edge, it is expensive and inappropriate for us. And,…further again, where do you think electricity comes from?

    The US has many nuclear (every state) power stations, hence why their electricity is cheaper, but even then, their electric motor tech has not bee m applied widely.

    It would be nice….but….reality is another matter.

    The solutions I proposed re smaller cars, efficient and safe public transport are not only practical, possible but more reliable IF implemented properly.

    How can anyone even think of implenting new technology (which they THINK they understand but do not), when current process and standards have not even being bst implemented for success?

    THAT is management 101.


  36. David | August 24, 2012 at 4:46 PM |

    @Crusoe

    The current state provides the opportunity for an innovative little country to make a solution of this because our survival depends on it.. We have to stop being followers and see how we can influence end states.
    —————————

    Easy to say, but there are two issues.

    1) We have proven that we cannot and choose not to service current technology and implement simple processes for improvement
    2) Mass electric motors are simply another way to utilise energy.

    The bog issue for a small economy, is how best to implement exisitng and new technology as sustaibale over the short, medium and long term, at most efficient and least cost.

    Problem is, mass electric technology can be implemented as a supplement to fossil fuel, mainly in infrastructre (solar house energy etc), but where the article started i.e. motor vehicles, is a long way off and currently not appropriate for Barbados and will not be for some time.


  37. One last thing,

    Maybe one should spend more time thinking about why government implemented a requirement to have vehicles over a certain age to have a gargae certify roadworthiness.

    This has never been an issue in Barbaos and is just another cost to the average man. Further, it puts pwoer back into the cartel that is the car industry, similar to the financial crippling of the imported used car busines by the additional levy on those cars.

    Government cannot keep its own vehicles running, but the avaerage man who uses a good sole mechanic to keep his car good, much cheaper than the garages, now have to go to same garages at expense, to have them ‘certified’.

    What a joke.

    Blame government , not Simpson.


  38. wow,the video explains that there is less maintenance than a regular car.
    but some one comes up with maintenance would be a problem.
    may be it is just me that is the problem as i have said racial things before.
    electric bicycles electric scooters,electric cars,all cost less to use any where in the world especially in a place with lots of sun,where i live in Canada when i am there,has months without direct sunlight but solar panels are on street lights and parking meters,bus stops,even cars. and still work just from little UV they get.
    also did we not hear the part about/ the while breaking it charges the battery.

    i see women in Canada riding electric scooters in the cold and rain to work every day.if a little old lady can do it !well i guess any one can.
    as i have already shown you can now buy solar panels at wall mart .
    i really don’t know what else to tell ya.
    try this—– the sun gives free power and also the wind gives free power.
    you guys figure it out. and why there is none here where the sun boils most days.
    Adrian, David / it is mind boggling, not so? see what i mean now about bajans.?
    oh by the way those stand on chariots the police ride around on the board walk and elsewhere are electric.!


  39. croso –you get the power from the sun,and wind.and these cars take less maintenance than regular cars less moving parts you see.
    don’t understand comment about ;
    1) We have proven that we cannot and choose not to service current technology and implement simple processes for improvement

    2) Mass electric motors are simply another way to utilize energy.
    i fixed your misspelling of utilize for you.
    you just don’t get it do you?
    any way it is out there .
    do nothing and perish,or move ahead with technology and improve your lives.
    your all decision.
    why do i feel like banging my head against the wall now.lol


  40. The simplicity of it all does not connect with the reality for one people are so attached to their cars and the abilty to move at faster pace that one would be hard press to see little johhny and mary giving up their auto mobile for a scooter. Sargeant is making salient points in addressing the overall cost in the long term and as much as man like to be greedy the poor little guy would always be suckered punch left holding the bag with all kind of outrageous charges


    • @enuff

      Good stuff!

      The reality as others have opined above is that small open economies with exclusive reliance on fossil fuel CANNOT wait for the industry to settle on standards etc. We have shown in the past that we can lead e.g. solar power, electoral system, sugar cane development etc. We can use the UWI to establish a Caribbean Standard and pool resources to satisfy our market, let others follow for chrissakes.


  41. @ Harry callihan | August 25, 2012 at 7:38 AM |

    Harry the dirty callihan, no need to be pedantic between an “s” and a ‘z”.

    Focus on the major issues. You have a solid argument to defend so stick to your ground and I will continue to support you in this cause. What you are proposing is the future of transport in Barbados.
    Never mind the naysers and doubting Thomases. Yet these same people with the typical Bajan attitude of “da can’t wuk bout hey” have said nothing against the government’s propaganda of greening policies and strategies to wean the country off fossil-based fuels. None of them, especially ac, has dared speak out about the energetic dichotomy flowing forth from the hypocritical tanks of both political parties.
    So because we have incompetents currently running things both at the operational and administrative level we should not embrace new technologies. Why not get rid of the incompetents and fix the road infrastructure instead of bashing the technology of the future ad nauseam, ad absurdum?
    These luddites would even oppose and find reasons why a very interesting proposal that was already put to the government but resuscitated on this blog by Beverly Yearwood | August 24, 2012 at 3:24 PM cannot be implemented or is workable.| “Suggestion that almost nobody in Bim will ever take seriously: the Bermuda approach. Maximum one car per household, no exceptions. Get a scooter. And enforce the law.”

    What do you guys want? To complain ad nauseam and when alternatives are put on the table shoot them down like sitting ducks? Suppose Henry Ford had given into his critics, would we have a mass land transport system today or would we still have jackass carts and, in the Colonel’s case, horse and buggy? What about solar technology? Would we have solar water heaters in light of the initial opposition?
    “Those who dare, win”! Nothing ventured, nothing gain!
    Technology is the only means by which man’s existence becomes bearable and convenient enough for him to artistically think of a future. Adapt or perish. And as sure as night follows day, man will perish unless he stops overfilling the carbon sinks. Man has put more carbon in the atmosphere in the last 200 years than Nature took millions of years to remove to accommodate mankind’s short existence on this planet.
    Think on these things before dishing dirty harry’s suggestions!


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  43. Man dissing what technology everybody loves the fact that the can get on an airplane and fly across the atlantic in record time. everybody loves the fact that they can pick uop a telephione and call old uncle jeff or auntie lousie great stuff and benefits but what some of us are talking about is cost until a drastic reduction in the overall cost is found to implement all of what harry is talking about we will be four steps forward and six steps backward cost and implementation is a driver behind technology


  44. @ ac | August 25, 2012 at 11:33 AM |
    “but what some of us are talking about is cost until a drastic reduction in the overall cost is found to implement all of what harry is talking about we will be four steps forward and six steps backward cost and implementation is a driver behind technology”

    You have just been hung by your own petard and sown the very seeds to destroy your own argument.
    Every new technology is always faced with initial high costs. It is by buying into and widening its usage that unit costs of production and distribution are reduced over time.
    Ac, do you remember when the PC first came on the market? What is the cost of a PC today?

    Reinvent the wheel and come again with you totally poor appreciation manufacturing economics and marketing of technologically new or innovative products.


  45. PC good point. however miller when one considers the cost to drive on the internet highway it is not cheap in addition some households only availabilty to the use of cable tv is only by having thePC and for most it is/an astronomical cost which can ran a monthly bill of abou two hundred dollars monthly. remember all of your arguments have been used to promote the cost factor as relatively cheap but that is niot true .technology good but not cheap i prefer to have it but the question can we all afford it


  46. @miller”These luddites would even oppose and find reasons why a very interesting proposal that was already put to the government but resuscitated on this blog by Beverly Yearwood | August 24, 2012 at 3:24 PM cannot be implemented or is workable.| “Suggestion that almost nobody in Bim will ever take seriously: the Bermuda approach. Maximum one car per household, no exceptions. Get a scooter. And enforce the law.”

    What do you guys want? To complain ad nauseam and when alternatives are put on the table shoot them down like sitting ducks

    —————————————–

    Good lord. Yuh cyan read man? THE POINT IS one cannot talk about such things when the underlying infrastructure is not in place.

    Specifically, as an example, your Bermuda approahc, how can that work when man and wife work and the transport system ispissily inefficient, when both may have travelling jobs, when no one in their right minds in bim would drivea motor scooter, knowing they will likely be waiting to get killed, that is not hearsay, fact. Only today a transport board bus pass me like a freight train on a narrow road.

    IF you can get the ‘culture’ and implement strict changes in transport, THEN AND ONLY THEN, can you implement cost reduced and efficient methods.

    THAT is what I said above re smaller cars, etc etc.

    But until you get infrastructure changes and cultural changes in place IN REALITY, you are wasting time’

    Next point, the electrical car is still in infancy AND a long way from competing monetarily with the petrol and diesel engine.

    You all talk about cost this and cost that, but the whole issue in term sof cost, is that the average man cannot and could not afford it.

    Even in the US and Canada, petrol and gas still rule.

    Why yuh tink?

    You all are talking bilge.

    Sure, nothing wrong with UWI et al takling a leading rein, but that is in research and devlopment, far from implementaiton, which is currently , under current AND MEDIUM FUTURE scenarios, impractical and unworkable.

    So, call people names and pigeon hole, but do not, do not, put in place ioiotic mechanisms (such as that garage road worthy certificaiton) that put the average man at disadvantage.)

    At the end of the day, the average man dont care about the environment.

    He cares about bread and butter on the table.

    But you want environment and cheap? Horse and cart, cheap, environment friendly.

    But wunnuh transport board buses would run them all down, passing at 60 mph and cutting.

    Learn to balance ideas between theoretical, practical and the unlikely.

    And understand the issue, before ranting about ‘bajans doan want tuh change’.


  47. @Crusoe | August 25, 2012 at 6:28 PM |
    “But until you get infrastructure changes and cultural changes in place IN REALITY, you are wasting time’ ”

    What you have said in your post speaks volumes about the national psyche of Bajans.
    Here we have a society that boasts so much about its exceedingly high rate or deep penetration of free education even up tertiary level yet something as important to our socio-economic survival is deemed too much of a challenge to even consider far less meet. What is the purpose of education? Why are we spending so many billions of dollars in education? To boast about our fast falling ratings on the Human Development Index (HDI) and our imaginary “developed country” status?

    So what do we do, Crusoe? Be realistic like Man Friday and throw our hands in the air and wait for the culture to change and the infrastructure put in place by some unseen hands? Or should we be bold enough with some so called creative imagination and demonstrate to the world that “size does not matter” while extracting some returns or dividends from that exceedingly large investment in education, especially on the Hill?
    Unless we seriously embark on a road of changing the way we do business in this country our standard of living and quality of life would come under tremendous attacks. Many of which would be self-inflicted. Many others, however, would be imposed upon us from outside like the buffeting we are presently and will continue to experience from the international economic adjustments taking place. We either adapt or perish. Waiting for something to change on its own will see us slipping further down the economic slope and the HDI.
    The longest journey begins with the first step. Or more precisely: “A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step”. – Lao-tzu.
    What are we waiting for? For the Chinese to lead us by exporting alternative energy solutions to our culturally unprepared financially challenged island with its crumbling infrastructure?


  48. yu see miller no body talking about not making a change for the better but once you start there is no turning back and one must also look at the benefits vs the risk.the fact is that corporation has sold the consumer a lot of feel good hype to buy a product the consumer shakes their hear in agreement signs the dotted line only to find out that the product was not all it was hyped up to be. the problem is not technology but those who controls it


    • @Crusoe

      Research will tell you that the two things against electric cars is the cost compared to conventional vehicles because of the batteries. The cost of the battery for electric cars will come down with mass production. The other is the infrastructure issue i.e. being able to ‘gas’ up on demand. These are issues a creative people can confront. It must be said however that BU’s own preference is the Hybrid model. Miller has made the good point that as a country we can create power sources fueled from alternative sources of energy. Barbados has a solid reputation in the field of solar energy now is the opportunity to take it to the next level. Stop saying can’t.


  49. Research will tell you that the two things against electric cars is the cost compared to conventional vehicles because of the batteries. The cost of the battery for electric cars will come down with mass production.

    ac
    research also shows that as technology improves cost escalates the consumer prefers better over outdated models and in the process the outdated product becomes obselete which means the consumer is forced to do away with old and buy the newer and improved product at higher cost .the same with the battery.


    • This is a challenge for Barbados which can be viewed from so many angles. Why not zero rate Hybrids for 1-2 years to allow the market to respond? In the same way many in the market buy gas guzzlers others may want to buy Hybrids to show commitment to greening etc. If the government is serious about the environment it should do all it can to permit consumers to access products which will help. It would also assist in growing knowledge capital about a different kind of product. Other Caribbean islands are already selling Hybrids by the way.


  50. that video above is old and probably made by the oil producers did you not hear the man say the battery was warrantied for over 100,000 kl in the origional video
    hybrid is not pure electric either by the way.
    some of you people who have never lived abroad for any length of time[5 years min] have no clue of what you speak.
    this i believe is the whole problem with barbados,backwards,ignorant.
    you can get solar panels and wind mills online now to recharge these cars.at your home.
    wunna living the dark[pun]ages..lol
    i give to funk up.you can lead a jack ass to water but you can not make it drink!!!!!!!!!!and by the way leaps and bounds have been made with electric cars it is just you don’t know about it.wow


  51. cruso you do work for Simpson don’t you? or you are good at writing a lot of long talk witch amounts to nonsense.
    OK lets wait another 10 years so we can be really far behind and still paying too much for electricity and gas..sit and drink you rum.lol


  52. our current set of cars are polluting our air, thats why we have such high chonic diseases in barbados, too many old cars on the road because of too much duty on new cars. Newer cars have better emissions and have to meet certain emission standards to keep pollution down.

    Besides if they lowered duty to like 50-60 percent more people would buy from dealers and government would make more revenue. as it is most people buy second hand, so the government only gets one set of revenue (duty) per car.


  53. thank you ,it was my idea.i am indeed a forward thinking man.
    now if i just had the money to set the thing up before some one takes my idea and steals it.


  54. wait or has that already happened?do i get any credit,what do i get.
    the rich get richer and you know —————–


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