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 WIPA CEO and President Dinanath Ramnarine, Caricom Chairman Bharat Jagdeo and CEO WIBC Julian Hunte
WIPA CEO and President Dinanath Ramnarine, Caricom Chairman Bharat Jagdeo and CEO WICB Julian Hunte

Fortunately or unfortunately, a member of BU witnessed the People’s Business Show aired on CBC TV on Sunday night (13 September 2009). The show featured Donna Symmonds, WIPA’s legal adviser; Conde Riley, the former WICB Director who recently resigned in controversial manner and sports journalist Keith Holder.  The program was hosted by CBC journalist Andi Thornhill.

If Barbadians were not aware of the reason why the current impasse in West Indies cricket has not yet been solved, it became very clear after viewing the TV program. We are tempted to use the analogy of the thriller in Manila boxing match. On second thoughts, it wouldn’t be appropriate to do so because there was a winner and loser on that night when the world witnessed one of the most existing boxing matches in history. On the People’s Business TV Show, Conde Riley representing the views of WICB, and Donna Symmonds those of WIPA, jabbed and punched themselves on the many issues, known and unknown to the public until they were blue in the face.  When the program was finished both were still standing.  It is clear this issue has mushroomed to a battle of wills between WICB and WIPA.

The impasse which has arisen in West Indies cricket has now escalated to a level where the current actors from WICB and the WIPA should be replaced immediately. All goodwill has long disappeared. Even if the recent rescue plan announced by CARICOM governments were to clear the way for the re-entry of the striking players, it is apparent to all that too much blood has been shed for the current actors to salvage any measure of trust to build the necessary cohesion which is required to move West Indies cricket forward. Sports, cricket included is now seen as a business. In the West Indies we continue to operate as if the world has stood still regarding sports management.

If one were to judge from the call-in shows, man on the street, rum shop or attendance at cricket matches, West Indian fans have turn their backs on the game cricket. It is a game which West Indies were thought by the colonial  masters and one which they mastered to become world champions. Ironically, some may say it is the dominance of the West Indies in world cricket under Clive Lloyd and Sir Vivian Richards which may have led to the place where our cricket finds itself.

Many Caricom countries who could not afford it invested millions of dollars in stadia and infrastructure to host CWC2007. The decision obviously reflected their commitment to the game. The regionalist argue that cricket and the UWI are the institutions which keep the notion of regional integration alive. If cricket fails, Ramphall, Patterson, Arthur, Sir Hilary et al  will feel a since of failure given the rupture which will occur to their legacies. Commonsense clearly shows that the current archaic management structure represented by the WICB is woefully inadequate to effectively direct cricket. The fact that WIPA has been able to organize itself to a point where it is well ahead of the WICB in the tactics of negotiating is proof of WICB’s short comings.

The matter has become so complicated it is difficult for us on the outside to offer any realistic suggestions. What is clear given what we saw tonight on the CBC Show, the two sides are miles apart. The Caricom intervention is likely a bandage solution which prompts the question – What does the future hold for West Indies cricket?


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91 responses to “What Does The Future Hold For West Indies Cricket?”


  1. @ ROK
    ““When the WICB is disbanded who will step in to fill the shoes?”
    ***************************************
    What fill what shoes what ROK?!!

    There are few things that start wrong that ever end up right.

    Can you envision a ‘South American” Soccer team? or a “South East Asia” cricket Board of control?

    What West Indies what?!!
    THERE IS NO SUCH ENTITY….
    This is strictly a region of the world – like ‘South America’ is….
    The concept of ‘West Indies cricket’ was purely a remnant of our colonial past when – to a large extent there WAS a ‘West Indies’…. a bunch of colonies who were united in subservience to our colonial masters.

    Who in their right mind can be surprised at the collapse of this anachronistic dinosaur in 2009?

    To my mind the fact that it lasted as long as it has, is an indication of the level of mental subservience that continues to afflict our mentality.

    If we want to have a ‘West Indies’ cricket structure then we must first be prepared to have a ‘West Indies’….

    …Bury the damn thing in peace do!!
    If this is justifiable then what is to stop some other grouping from constituting a ‘Northern Hemisphere’ cricket board ?? or something….

    ….call 3 Sons for the thing do…


  2. @AH

    “Why do the players have to sanction it? Would this not be a matter for the ICC alone?”

    A question of representativeness. If the new board has player approval, then the ICC would have to accept it.

    The ICC can’t choose who will be the authority over WI Cricket.


  3. @ ROK
    “The ICC can’t choose who will be the authority over WI Cricket”
    *************************************
    Wrong again ROK.
    The authority over WI cricket is that organization that is officially recognized by the ICC.

    Typically, such International sports bodies do not change willy nilly… so it will be up to the WICB itself, to reinvent itself.

    …you may also be quite surprised at how little influence regional governments will have in the whole affair….


  4. @BT

    One thing that always gets me about WI cricket is that the most politically fragmented and smallest pieces of the diaspora are united by cricket…

    but is that a surprise? Not when you consider that WI Cricket comes from the people. So in short, the people unite but the politicians can’t.

    So, I would not dash the efforts of the people, we just have to do it our way or as demonstrated at present, there will be no way at all.


  5. @BT

    I will stick to my guns that ICC can’t dictate who is the authority for WI Cricket. All they can do is decide who they will recognise and I am sure that they will recognise the authority that controls a team that meets their requirements and help ICC fulfill its mandate to bring quality cricket.


  6. We were NEVER united by cricket ROK. we were united by success!!

    What ‘united’ us was the fact that we could claim success in an area of international competition. (at a time when we actually believed in the ‘science’ of our inferiority…)

    When ever the team lost, there was trouble.

    ‘United in cricket’ would have been reflected in genuine team commitment -win or lose.
    ‘United in cricket’ would have meant seeking to select the BEST teams (not territorial representation)

    What united what?!!
    Man ROK, let we drop this cricket thing and get back to the legal issues where you got BFP eating crow….LOL


  7. Bush Tea well said. I believe the confusion in West Indies cricket is deliberate. The Indo’s are gunning for control. Watch for a call to have WICB relocate to Guyana. lol!


  8. Off Topic
    ROK dig this guy…!


  9. and this one


  10. @BT

    “We were NEVER united by cricket ROK. we were united by success!!”

    Man BT, that is a frivolous argument. The success was through cricket and whatever the deficiencies, we still look forward to a return to the glory days and still believe that cricket can do it for us.


  11. ROK, I’m hurt dat u din invite me also, to view the video. Anyhow, I forgive u! He’s nearly as bright as I am!! (Jonathan)

    Lord!!


  12. To be so perceptive, at his age!! Absolutely amazing!!


  13. ROK
    It is not that easy for W.I to change their governing body. However, the ICC is sympathetic to the W.I CAUSE AND IS DOING EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO ASSIST THE W.I in getting back on their feet. Read my blog posted on Sept 15th @ 3.19 P.M. Even the ICC’s offer given yesterday shows their willingness to assist and help end the crisis. The one playing hardball is the WICB, whose Board of Directors are upstaging Pres. Julian Hunte. When is the last time anyone heard a remark from Hunte? The one who does the talking is the young upstart Cameron and he seems to be using Riley as his pitbull, without lipstick.


  14. What does this weather cock Hamilton Lashley know about the ICC. Does he think he can dictate the pace to the ICC like he appears to be dictating to both the BLP and the DLP? Mr Lashley, do everyone a favor and fight within your league, right now, you are out of your class. For you information, the ICC can sanction the WICB and even remove the upcoming World Twenty/20 tournament of which incedentally, Barbados can be the biggest beneficiary.
    Therefore if you don’t know what’s going on, it is better to SHUT UP.


  15. I suspect that the ICC is now just being diplomatic in their dealings with the WICB. If or when this present W.I team is soundly beaten in the Champion’s Trophy, then the ICC would support Australia in rejecting a second string W.I team, since no T.V network will be willing to cover such a tournament and this would mean millions of dollars lost.
    From a statement which the arrogant Dave Cameron made on monday, I don’t think the WICB is willing to meet with the Caricom Cricket Sub-Committee. I think W.I cricket is DEAD, stabbed through the heart by the WICB with assistance from WIPA.


  16. It is time to look at this thing from a nationalist perspective, and the economics of it all. We should start to indentify all the possible “players” in a post WICB era and their current associations. I do not believe for a minute that what has transpired between WICB, and WIPA were not planned events.


  17. Sorry, BAF, they patently don’t think Jonathan (probably the future saviour of our race) important! – Bajans, eh?!!


  18. @Scout
    ICC acknowledges that the WICB has the full right to choose whom they see fit too. Not WIPA, not the Caricom heads of government and not the ICC.
    The ICC makes known their wish (full strenght team) and at the sametime states the above. I don’t see this pressure to which you referred.

    Dave Cameron puts it in perspective, agreeing with Bush Tea’s opinion made in his reponse to ROK.

    “”The first line in CARICOM’s communiqué is something I’d like to emphasise,” Cameron said n on a CBC Radio talk show.

    “The management of West Indies cricket is the prerogative of the WICB. I commend CARICOM for having that foresight . . . Recommendations are just recommendations.”

    This is known. WICB is on solid ground, those that wish to get into the “dough” knows that there is no room for them in the WICB. Therefore the WICB has to be removed. What is occuring is not happenstance. The sad thing is that neither the WICB board members or the majority black players are aware of how they are being played against each other for the ultimate benefit of the current outsiders. Race is still a big issue in West Indies cricket, and blacks are allowing inter Island rivalry, nationalism, the continuance of old management behaviour, and responses to those behaviours to take them out of the decision making process of cricket, the money and power that goes with it. If they do not come around to these things they will at sometime in the future when the efforts to kill WICB finaly pays off, to find themselves once again producing wealth for others through their sweat.


  19. @AH
    “The ICC makes known their wish (full strenght team)…”

    That is why if the full strength team is loyal to a new body, the ICC will have no choice but to dump WIBC and recognise the new body. The WIBC are no gurus. If the best cricketers in the WI boycotted the WIBC, even without establishing a new body, WIBC will come under sanctions from ICC for not being able to show an internationally up to mark team.

    So, exactly where is the WIBC without the players?


  20. I don’t think you are correct. There has got to be an agreement between WICB and ICC, that;

    1: Leads the ICC to acknowledge that inspite of their wish (full strength team) the WICB has the RIGHT to pick whomever they please.

    2: For Mr. Cameron to be very clear in stating who controls West Indies Cricket.

    One has to ask why then, if your opinion, that players loyalty matters, did the ICC make the statement above? Or why have not WIPA made a case for the elite but non-performing players to ICC? Or have they?


  21. @ROK;
    How does the Kerry Packer controversy factor in your opinion that player loyalty matters, regarding who the ICC officially recognize?


  22. Adrian
    While the WICB is technically in the driving seat, the engine of the vehicle is the players and the Caricom leaders. The players is the drawing card,without the best possible team, the ICC could debarr them because the host team who takes care of the expenses would lose big money, plus no television network is going to sponsor a tournament that they are going to lose money, E.G. W.I vs. Bangledash series. The Caricom leaders could with-hold the use of the stadia, then the WICB will not have ICC approved grounds to host international matches and they would be fined for breech of contract. Plus right now, the WICB can be fined unless this present team make a good account of themselves. Right now that is the only thing that can save the WICB huge penalties. That is why the ICC is giving them enough rope to hang themselves. Do you really think the ICC like the W.I that much that they are making these fancy offers? When the hammer comes down, I hope the WICB supporters realise the power the ICC has. If you want to see just ask Zimbabwe


  23. Like Bimbro would tell you, the white boys in ENGLAND is just giving the little black boys in the W.I enough rope to hang themselves. The WICB could only play bad if they have what to play bad with. When Australia tell the ICC that they are not accepting that third string team, what will WICB do? It has happened before to the W.I with South Africa. When the guys stop short in England andthe W.I named replacements, South Africa rejected that and told them that can’t work because no-one will come to the cricket and they would lose too much money, plus TV sponsorship. At the end of the day, this is a money making affair. Did you hear how much money the WICB gets with this mediocre team in TV rights over U.S. $ 100 million. They can’t afford to lose that.


  24. All the leading international teams would only play against the W.I in the caribbean as the expenses would be at the WICB but then if the Caricom Leaders with-hold their stadia, where would they play?


  25. @Scout
    I need some facts. I really do. When the ICC head uses the word “unfettered” in reference to WICB rights. I do not see the players has having legal rights to undo the WICB decision.

    While I do agree with the view of the players as the engine. This engine can only achive a good rating if it performs, and that is sadly lacking from amongst what we are forced to call “elite West Indian players” so again the appeal to the paying Caribbean public can only result in a lackluster response in their favour. There is no legal and or moral standing for them to use against WICB.

    Caricom Leaders withholding access to the stadias from WICB. Well in the Case of Barbados I don’t think that our Government has such power. Isn’t Kesington still owned by the BCA, and is managed by a suedo independant entity? Also I would think that there are existing contracts and or agreements that would make such a move a difficult action to accomplish.

    But I see you are beginning to see were it is possible for money to be core to these imagined, and planned controversies with West Indies cricket. There are people who are dead set against the current crop of management having access to all this money, and not them, and are using our willing to be devided, to step and make changes for their benefit first and foremost. The Mutual affair gone regional. lol!


  26. Adrian Hinds
    First, Kensington technically is NOT owned by the BCA, it is a joint ownership with the Barbados government, who is owed millions of dollars for the renovations. While, I agree that the players have no legal rights to the WICB but the WICB has legal rights to the ICC to produce the best team possible. As far as the ICC is concerned as long as the old crop make themselves available, unless this new crop upstage the old guard then the WICB would be responsible for diluting the strength of the team. You must remember that NONE of the present crop are in the ICC ratings, therefore WICB would have to explain why these were not chosen. Right now the so-called “elite” team are reduced to the second rate grounds in Australia because of the lack of crowd, the only reason that people come out is to see the occasional good performance for one or two players like Chris Gayle, Chanderpaul, Sarwan, Bravo and maybe a few others. There are no crowd pullers in this team. Remember that these guys just mentioned are all invited to play for state teams in Australia right now so they have their following. Even though boxing in barbados is at its lowest, unless Sam Layne promotes a fight with Cox or Henry or Antione on it nobody will go to the fights. The same thing with the W.I team, even though it is weak, unless WICB presents a team with those guys I mentioned in it no-one will go and watch the cricket and no-one will make money which is the bottom line. Test cricket is already at death’s door, any series without your best players (crowd pullers) then that series is dead.


  27. All it takes is for Reifer and his boys to pull off a great victory and the crowd would come. It could 1960 all over again. lol! Is the second rate team represented by WIPA too?


  28. Adrian Hinds
    Right now there is a move afoot to reduce the W.I to the “B” class test grade, unless something is done immediately, the W.I would have played right into the detractors hands. This would mean that the W.I would only be playing cricket against Zimbabwe, Bangledash, Kenya and maybe Ireland and a few more minnows. This would spell the death nell for the W.I. There is nothing the WICB could do about it, that shows how much power the ICC is wheeling. As I said before they are just giving the W.I enough rope to hang themselves. You think they liked when the W.I were humilliating them 20 years ago. This would be the revenge.


  29. Hi Scout, since the retirement of the great Sobers and Viv Richards, cricket has no meaning or interest for me, any more! The great days of the sport are gone. I have n’t noticed a single player to grab my interest. Anyhow, I wish u guys luck with it! Football is now the ‘happening game’!!


  30. I stop following West Indies cricket in 1993. I declared it dead and moved on. I now collect videos of our past glorious exploits.

    Back them I laid blame squarely at the feet of the Board. Todate most if not all of that Board is gone, and while the demonstrated practices of the past board may still be with us, the current crop of players cannot get my support in their fight with close two decades of extremely poor showings.

    You cannot fight the good fight from a position of ineptitude, while receiving renumerations equivalent to that of a champions purse.

    I am not on the side of the board, and I certainly would not watch the current crop of players, play bat and ball, and I was a regular at WI vs England at Kesington, the last time being 2004, a test match that last 3 days. Never again.

    So when these ungrateful non producers for players are used to bring about the failure and demise of WICB then what? They will still be failures, and will the new board have to tolerate this????? most likely not. Too much money is involved, and the same thing the WICB attempted will be with them again,…probably with disguise approach to affect the same. When will the working class man in the Caribbean learn?


  31. @AH

    ” How does the Kerry Packer controversy factor in your opinion that player loyalty matters, regarding who the ICC officially recognize?”

    that was not a case of players migrating to a new body. There was no threat to the authority of WICB, although there was protest against the authority of the WICB to tell players what to do.

    Well, did commonsense not prevail in the long run? Maybe it was a good example of how important good players are.

    If a Kerry Packer came again tomorrow our players gone and left WICB holding the bag again. Let we see who got the power. They have 3rd class teams?


  32. @The Scout

    Clarify a couple points:

    Wasn’t there some controversy leading up to CWC2007 about the Arthur government spending millions to remodel Kensington based on an MOU between the BCA and government. Has this matter been settled?

    Isn’t a bone of contention between WIPA and WIBC the fact the ICC determines eligibility when contracts are signed? Is it not true those contract have not been signed to this day?


  33. David
    Yes, there was some controversy after the CWC2007 but theproblemwas resolved with there being a joint management agreement between Government and the BCA. Their is now in place a Company, the Kensington Management something, that is in place. The stadium is now considered not just a cricket stadium but a multi-purpose stadium.
    The WICB does have to present to the ICC signed contracts to determine eligibility and these MUST be sent in. The problem is that this is only part of the contract that the WICB wants the players to sign. The rest of the contract concerns things like individual players rights, which the WICB is telling the players they don’t have and the players is contesting that among other things. The reason for the late signing that the WICB is talking about is the fact that sometimes the players recieve the contracts on the flight to a new tournament and are told sign because they are non-negotiable. You can’t treat big men that way even though they are not performing. The WICB should have read the riot act to them long time but you can’t wait until a series is over them change the terms of a contract because it was notsigned before the series started having given the players the contract the same day the series started. Contracts are something negotiated and players must have time to read and advised on before committing themselves to the contract. What was happening is that the players were consistantly signing under protest and letting the WICB know, however, the WICB continued to operate the same way. The players drew the line and said enough is enough. Just let me point out that there are ICC, digicel and WICB contracts that are to be signed but on some of them the same matter/s is/are in contention


  34. We need two or three new cricketing-geniuses to breathe life and interest back into the sport which, WI cricket is sadly, lacking!!


  35. The W.I 3rd string team was almost MURDERED today in their 1st warm up match against an international test playing side, namely South Africa. The host scored 388 runs off their 50 overs and bowled out W.I for 200 runs, winning by a whopping 188 runs. is this what the WICB is doing to these poor guys? this is humiliating, is this what the WICB is doing to us , caribbean people?


  36. Good thing that these are democratic islands. If this were a hardline dictatorship, I could only imagine what would have happened to the WICB and WIPA, for bringing the cricket team to this.


  37. News out of the WICB camp is that, that Board has accepted the recommendations from the Caricom cricket Sub-Committee. Apparently some heat was put under Julian Hunte and his partner in cr—-me Dave Cameran by fellow board members, and the ICC. I hope that a final resolution will be reached this time as the ICC has taken a firm stance on the matter. I told you the ICC was just giving the WICB enough rope to hang themselves. I understand that Digicel and the new CEO Hillaire was also instrumental in putting some sense in these men’s head.


  38. Stick a for in it, its done, even Tony Cozier thinks so

    http://www.nationnews.com/comments/guestcolumnists/flying-fish—tony-cozier


  39. YEAH ITS OVER

    Cricket as we know is done
    Its over
    End of an ERA

    DISBAND THE BOARD
    REORGANIZE
    RESTRUCTURE
    AND COME AGAIN
    A LA AMERICAN BASKETBALL

  40. RANDY BRIDGEMAN Avatar

    There is enough blame to go around for the present mediocre state of our cricket.

    The Board is incompetent and backward-thinking. Only the blind and/or dishonest will not be able to see this.

    The WIPA is controlled by a former player who, because of perceived poor treatment by the selectors when he was a Test player, has become very vindictive, seeking to stick it to the Board at every opportunity.

    The third member of this triumvirate is the players. The vast majority of them are loyal to the $ first and foremost; lack professionalism and pride and are mentally weak.

    So we have a recipe for the disaster which currently obtains. There’s been a breach of trust and lack of mutual respect between the Board and the WIPA. I think it’s fair to say that barring a significant change of perception, these two entities will never trust each other again as long as both heads wield power in their respective organizations.

    Solution? Pray to the Almighty to send a statesman who will put all the pettiness aside, select a team of professional, business savvy, competent men and women of integity who love the game of cricket to administer it in the region.

    If people around the region perceive a reconstituted, streamlined Board to be competent and sincere in trying to get the game back on track, they will truly rally around the Windies. The WIPA will be rendered null and void because the Board will treat the players fairly and with dignity and respect.

    Once the infrastructure is in place to take the game out of its doldrums, I believe we will begin to see some improvement from the players. However, I don’t anticipate any mammoth improvement in their play until a fresh group of younger players such as Brathwaite, Barath, Roach, Mc Clean, Darren Bravo and the like are phase into the squad over the couple of years.

    There’s still hope for the future of the game in the region , but time is of the essence.


  41. Cricket as we know it is over- BUT cricket is not over in the Caribbean.

    The way we approachthe game will change because it must, it is forced to do so. I am not afraid for West Indies cricket at all.

    We do not need the WIBC and that is our first move.

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