J

“ROK is a maverick (and a racist) and a shunned man even in his own country.”

Well I dismiss the racism talk because I know that I do not know sufficient about it to be one. Not only that, it is a joke being a racist by yourself, it calls for institutional support otherwise you wasting time. I am not even part of any secret society or lodge; can’t deal with it because I am too open a person.

A shunned man? I wish that were true, my telephone would stop ringing and my e-mail inbox would be empty rather than being bombarded with 200-300 e-mails per day; nothing to do with the spam.

Nor would I have people calling on me to come out rather than stay home or at the office working through Easter, Crop-Over, Independence and Xmas. People actually turn up and say come Ty King, let’s go somewhere. Up to last month that happened and I went too; with a nice young lady (to boot) who treated me to lunch and two hours of good decent company.

The real truth is that people do not like to deal with ugly issues and we end up being the mat that everybody wipes their feet on. So, for a man who speaks out, people who are part of the status quo are afraid; of what I do not know. They smile in your face but behind your back… hmmm. If Bob complain about it, who am I?

On the streets and travelling around, people pull me oneside to thank me for the work that I do. Poor people on the whole feel that they have no champions and most times I am really surprise at the reception I get from those whom I hardly know, simply because they feel good about the work I do.

I went into that supermarket on Bridge Street, Bridgetown yesterday and I bought a bread. While at the cashier, an old lady came up to me and offered to buy my bread for me but I had already paid. You know why? I had helped her sometime ago in a difficult situation without knowing anything about her and she never forgot me. I did not know who she was, nor could I remember the incident.

I remember a young lawyer opening a door for me and I was just abreast of somebody else whom I allowed to go by while he was still holding the door. Afterwards he explained that he opened the door for me out of respect for me and nobody else; reflect on the deep meaning of that.

Quite apart from that I am not a gregarious person, I am a loner and have come to expect that what I do most do not do and what others do I have little desire to do. Start with the eating of meat something I have not done for approaching 35 years, which the average Bajan does.

Eating meat is a whole culture. For those who do it, it pervades their whole lives. Everything they touch and eat is meat. For a non-meat eater, it just cannot work.

But I am not seeing that as a criticism, however. It happens to others in similar ways. For example, a non-drinker will not find himself at a rum shop with his workmates, but they socialise with friends of the own type at other places.

Unfortunately in Barbados, there are not many people who do not eat meat. It is a waste of time going to a party or fete because there is usually nothing for you to eat. Late night in Baxters Road or elsewhere is a joke; as a veggie, you have to end up eating a lot of unhealthy foods.

So if I am shunned, that is not a problem. I am sure that they are a few like me. The most important thing is what I do. Social justice means more to me. One thing for sure, poor people don’t shun me and that is my salvation. All others can fend for themselves and don’t need me anyway.

If you had any idea of the amount of people that I have helped, including students to get their masters degrees or other qualifications, based on the work that I am doing, you would know the amount of satisfaction that I feel and the fact that I am making a practical contribution to this society, I really don’t need much more.

Only recently, a youngster called me because he want to be around me for one simple reason. He said words to the effect, I am sorry the day I left from being around you because I realise that everybody around you back then is somewhere today and I am not, because I left.

J, I am happy to be shunned and I am happy to be a joker; thank you.

ROK

You are shunned!? Really and truly ….. well I cant wait to meet you!

J man wha happen that you encouraging FOOL in his attacks!

If you were reading from the beginning of the escapade you would have realised that FOOL posted and pretended that he was real irie, however, after a few comments he started to show that he was really and truly a fool!

Come on J I know that you aint easy but this time FOOL IS A FRAUD!

@JC

You are so correct !!

When fool started out, I was quite impressed by the tollerance displayed but realised that this was a ploy to get others on the bandwagon.

Fool was quite charming and understanding in the beginning and I am thankful to ROK to have pressured him into revealing the true nature of the beast.
Others here will no doubt be sympathetic to fool but praises be to the highest, that we have seen this side, where we can now go forward, knowing the type of creature we have to deal with.

……..Fool does well to post here at all…..

This is quite easy, especially when it is done under handles.

I give ROK full credit for being himself in all regards, for it is ROK who does well to post here at all, knowing the small mindedness and vindictive nature of others.

anon

“Talking about blowing one’s trumpet? Wow!”

You ain’t hear trumpet blowing yet. Right now a neighbour outside my house cutting the grass and I ain’t ask he to do it and he don’t want no money for it either. Thing is I got a wacker in here…

but you see, J, thinks I am shunned and I could only assume that who ever told her so, don’t know anything about me. As I said, if this is what it means to be shunned, then I am happy to be shunned by traitors and those who care only about themselves and their pockets and little about the plight of poor people.

I am glad to be shunned by people who don’t like their own, who feel uncomfortable calling themselves African. I am glad to be shunned by those who see dreadlocks as dirty and unkempt rather than beautiful (’cause it is a dreadlocks man that out there cutting the grass).

@Technician
Thanks. Never even thought about that… but I am happy to know that there are genuine people out there who are not afraid to speak up; even if under a handle.

J say I am a maverick, but I remember the Skipper saying that if he can’t get in his car and drive down in the market to get his fresh vegetables because he is Prime Minister, then he would not want to be Prime Minister any more.

Well if I is a Bajan and I can’t open my mouth and have a say in my own country, I would not want to be a Bajan and I would not be living in Barbados.

Hopi

“Jewdases”? You bad! I see you come up with some things already that crack me up.

LOL! Appreciated!

If a Jew is born in Barbados he IS A BAJAN. It is not his adopted home. Barbados is his home, if he was born in Barbados, like other folk of other origins i.e European, Guyanese, African, Indian etc.

J // February 24, 2009 at 12:39 pm | Reply

Pat is an ex-Bajan.
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I ask to beg your pardon? What in tarnation is an ‘ex-Bajan’? I am a Bajan born and a Bajan I will die. No one, not even you, can take away my Bajan status. Not even the government of Barbados can do that. Errol Barrow saw to that.

Next week I will be travelling on my Bajan passport! So there.

We dont even consider dead Bajans ex Bajans……so how can those living abroad be ex-Bajans? Interesting.

anon

let me say it again. MY ROOTS HERE!

He claiming to be Bajan but evidently his loyalty is to Israel.

Loizeaux

Let me explain to you that my manner of interpreting the Bible is the exact opposite to how the Bible study scholars interpret the Bible. I don’t want you to be out of step. Ask Georgie Porgie.

This is an extrat from the Babylonian Talmud. First it describes the meaning of the Talmud as the “Oral Law”. It continues that the word Talmud was used interchangeably to mean the Old Testament. This extract is however very interesting:

From all places of the world came persons to learn the doctrines and the morality of the Talmud. This period of good fortune, however, was only of short duration, as the time of the destruction of the Temple was nigh, and with it the victims of the sword and of hunger were many. Among these were the great sages who bore the banner of the Talmud, and their wisdom died with them.

The Sanhedrin had been forced, while the Temple was still in existence, to transfer their meeting places from the “marble hall” to the “shops.” Rabban Gamaliel the Elder, the son of Hillel the Prince (Nasi) was persecuted by them, and his son Simeon was slain, together with many sages.

Thus, if R. Johanan b. Zakkai had not, risking his life, petitioned Vespasian to spare the Sanhedrin, who had been compelled during the tumults at Jerusalem to move with their college to Jamnia, there would have remained no vestige of the Talmud, since most of those who cherished it had passed away by the sword, by hunger and by the plague.

Besides, the disciples of Jesus (see App. No. 6), who then believed in his Messiahship, but not in his divinity, began secretly to undermine the Talmud, which laid more stress on external ceremonies than they deemed necessary, and endeavored with all their might to weaken its influence among the populace, but R. Jehanan b. Zakkai and the Sanhedrin in Jamnia, with Rabban Gamaliel, the son of the slain Simeon, at their head, restored the Talmud to its prestige, and took pains to raise up others in the places of the murdered sages.

Thus the study of the Talmud flourished after the destruction of the Temple, although beset with great difficulties and desperate struggles. All his days, R. Johanan b. Zakkai was obliged to dispute with Sadducees and Bathueians and, no doubt, with the Messiahists also; for although these last were Pharisees, they differed in many points from the teaching of the Talmud after their master, Jesus, had broken with the Pharisees and their doctrines in public.

So R. Johanan b. Zakkai was obliged to introduce many reforms; and Rabban Gamaliel of Jamnia, notwithstanding his office of Nasi, and his lofty bearing towards his colleagues and adversaries, was compelled to go many times to Rome to ask for mercy for his college and the Pharisaic sages. And this first Nasi, after the Temple’s destruction, also had to witness the evil consequences of quarrels in the midst of his own nation, added to the calamities from without.

Loizeaux

I have no interest in interpreting the Bible, especially knowing that it is a re-write of what transpired before. My interpretation of anything in the Bible would have a background of the original stories copied.

It then makes the Bible a sham for me. Basically the two verses that you quoted me had to do with the changing of the practice and an end to the need for sacrifice because of the crucifixion. It is an ideological discussion going on there.

The simple principal of this is, Christ died for your sins. Not willing to go any further into that. It is an intellectual thing which I could do without. Getting too old for that foolish argument and blinkered vision of Bible text scholars.

Loizeaux

See what I mean, you want to pump more into the thing than what is there. I tell you ask GP about the rituals if you want to find out all that.

ROK I cant wait to meet you dont mind the play haters!

What is suppose to happen in 2012 December 21st!

JC

The scientist say that is the date when all the planets in this solar system line up. I am still trying to understand the line up with the dark hole (as they call it) in the Milky Way.

The speculation is that this will cause some tumultuous disruptions in the solar system… and there are several scenarios, such as the shifting of the poles; earthquakes, volcanoes, and possibly heavenly bodies colliding with planets; that includes earth.

The Mayan Calendar predicts this as well. Our own ancient religions indicate that this is the time of the return of the Gods.

The discrepancy is that science has calculated the planet Nibiru to have an orbit of 3600 years while the religions logging it at 55oo years. At least, what I should say is that is the interpretation.

However, the Mayan Calandar speaks of the coming of the fifth sun, which indicates that they have seen this Planet four times already, but this would be the first time that the planets would have lined up.

The lining up of the planets will include Nibiru, identified as the 12th Planet in the solar system and which according to science is well on its way to meeting that date.

This planet is refered to as the second sun. I can only conclude that it reflects the sun fairly bright at night once it is in this region. That is why I feel that the Christians have it wrong and that it is really the coming of the second sun and not the second coming of the Son.

Futhermore, during that time, the inhabitants of Nibiru called the Anunnaki will be frequenting earth; according to the story. They are probably here already.

That is it in a nutshell.

Zeitgeist ROK…plain and simple….it’s all about the Sun ….not Son….watch and see!!

Yeah Tech. I saw it.

Zeitgeist II: The Addendum (2008)

http://www.zshare.net/video/1998472129dbb592/

The Talmud is an analysis, a critical analysis of the Torah, which contains text, and also 613 identified commandments. The discussion between the ancient sages discusses what is said in the Torah/Old Testament, then tries to formulate a way to live by drawing from many areas of the OT text at the same time, to end up at a possible conclusion that is/was considered correct. That conclusion is still subject to interpretation, and we all know that ancient texts are valuable; but in modern day we must add something extra for what we hope we may (or may not) have learned.

Peace.

Thus, if one does not know the Old Testament extremely well, the Talmud will do that person very little good, because they won’t be able to understand or benefit from what the sages were saying and where the thoughts originate(d) from.

The Talmud is one of the fundamentals that contributes to Israeli Law: eg Do not cheat people; do not victimise women- treat them with respect. And more that is good. It contains much that is good, but if as a fundamentalist one draws only on the ancient interpretations one may find oneself in an archaic place, one that is undesireable.

In Israel the law takes into account the Talmud, the Torah, AND ALSO the legal precedents and legal systems set in English and French law.

Thus fundamentalism based on the Talmud is not legally practised in Israel. We have come into the present day.

A suspected terrorist/murdere, or child molester, caught; is tried in a court of law where he or she is an equal with his or her peers. If convicted of murder proved beyond a shadow of doubt, same as here in Barbados, that person is still not executed. They are incarcerated. Given top quality food- the same food as the persons in the isareli army receive. A convicted murderer can receive visitors, even without having a barrier in between; and a convicted murderer can study. The convicted man who was swapped for 2 dead Israelis to Lebanon recently was able to get a degree while in Israeli prison.

A woman in Israel is entitled to 3 months maternity leave and cannot be fired from her job under ther law. If a mother opts to take even as much as a year off after giving birth, the law says she must legally be re-accepted into her job. She cannot be fired.

Women are equal and have all equal riughts under the law in Israel, with its legal system. Women can divorce, and can reach a just settlement in such cases against men and husbands.

In the late 1800s the Jews of France signed a document saying they would be equal under the French law, that they would not be treated any different, so long as the state would grant the Jewish people all equal rights under French law and so be equally French as the rest of everybody.

So we are equal, and that is how we like it. I do hope this will not provoke people here, and that this can put an end to the rampant anti-Semitism.

I do not compare my religion with anyone else’s nor do I compare Bajan law with Israeli law except to say I imagine that many precedents are similar.

I don’t try to be made different from anyone or to have an unequal law for my kind compared with anyone else in Barbados. I want only to be a peer and equal.

I only ask that we Jewish people be left alone and not subjected to anti-Semitism, and treated as equals in Barbados, most especially at this blog location, but not solely at the BU location.

Thank you. Peace.

Fool;

I was considering your call for boycott, then I came to my senses and realised you are just a spoiler.

False premise fool; hate me – hate jews
Blog analysis shows; hate bigots – hate fools

Let all peoples, swallow the medicines of their own making. It is essential for their survival and existence. The fish are still here, the reptiles are still here, the dinosaurs barely survived,humans despite great numbers are struggling with the handling of this universal gem. Some people have been forced to swallow medicine not of their making, so as to guarantee their unmaking. Evil ideas use hate as motivation. If you hate the devil you will have no problem breaking the law that leads to your unmaking. Hate is a key ingredient in medicine of evil. If you continue to drink of this medicine you shall surely cease to exist. For the hebrew Jew , you many times bit the hand that fed you. To the so called jew slavery and robbery
has not guaranteed existence. To every indivisual evil intentions will not guarantee existence. The Black mans natural response to pain and deceit is anger not hate. The wounds of injustice have not healed, evil people who call themselves jews, christians, muslims etc. are making more wounds I’m in favour of opening festering wounds and lancing them at the root cause, giving the body a chance to heal.

Loizeaux made some good points, worthy of consideration, the man seems to be making some sense. GP, then asked real interesting questions, which I feel should be answered, after all, there must answers to these perplexing issue.

It does not make any sense to be wondering all over the place with endless speculations.

If this is so, then i give thanks and praises to Amon- Ra, Cush of the bible.”wilford that eminent student of the literature of india, found that Ethiopia was often mentioned in the sanskrit writings of the people of India. The world to the puranas, ancient historical books, was divided into 7 dwipas or divisions. Ethiopia was Cusha- dwipa which included Arabia,Asia Minor,Syria,Nubia,Armenia,MESOPOTAMIA, and an extended region in Africa”. MESOPOTAMIA was a colony of Ethiopia. How could the CHILD civilize the PARENT?

Since you get most of your world history from the bible(fiction based on some facts), the bible points to africa for the central seat of Ethiopians.It derives Nimrod from Cush, not Cush from nimrod. Genesis x,7, Havelah the son of Cush peopled the regions where the tigris and euphrates unite. All the earliest traditions of chaldea center about Belus or Nimrod. Babylon had two elements in her population in the beginning Nothern Accadians and Southern sumerians. They were both Cushite.”The Cushite Ethiopians were the governing class in polotics. They commanded the armies and held the offices of state, from them came the royal families of babylon”.(Diodorus Sicilus,BKII ch 21.)
The earliest civilization of babylonia was coeval with the earlier civilization of the upper nile. Babylonian script goes back 6000 BC.
Baldwin “PreHistoric Nations” In the oldest recorded traditions, Cushite colonies were established in the valley of the NILE, Barbara and Chaldea.This beginning have been not later than 7000BC OR 8000BC OR PERHAPS EARLIER. The bible has not totally failed you in your use of it’s knowledge,because you seem to know more about Abraham,daniel, nebukanezzar,and those characters, than you do about your own history.IF you are a BLACKMAN I would suggest you get your mind out of the WESTERN GUTTER and baptise in the knowledge of the Nile. ABRAHAM’S father was an immoral tauranian, he was saved by the blood of his mother,
a cushite arabian.
Bunsen says in his PHILOSOPHY OF ANCIENT HISTORY “The Hamitic family as Rawlinson proves MUST BE GIVEN CREDIT FOR BEING THE FOUNTAINHEAD OF CIVILIZATION. This family comprised, the ancient Ethiopians,the egyptians,the original canaanites and the old chaldeans. the inscriptions of the chaldean monuments prove their race affinity. the bible proves their relationship. Cush extended his colonies over a wide domain(philosophy of ancient history Bunsen, p.51)”Cushite colonies were along the southern shores of Asia and Africa and by the archaeoligical remains, along the southern and eastern coasts of arabia. the name CUSH was given to 4 great areas MEDIA,PERSIA,SUSIANIA,AND ARIA, OR THE WHOLE TERRITORY BETWEEN THE INDUS AND THE TIGRIS IN PRE-HISTORIC TIMES. In Africa the ETHIOPIANS,THE EGYPTIANS,THE LIBYANS, THE CAANANITES AND THE PHOENICIANS WERE ALL DESCENDANTS OF HAM.

To all you spaceheads out there who are into the sumerian tablets the planets and stars. If you are looking for the makers of man or human, know you’ve started with the wrong premise ,when you see her every day. Know that the universe is a part of you. Nimrod built the temple of ANU.