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The Caribbean Broadcasting Corporation (CBC)  decision to change the radio programming by expanding the talk segment appears to have gone down well. The introduction of the controversial neoliberal Peter Wickham as a moderator will boost ratings for that reason alone!

We also observe that the CBC was able to entice Marsha Hinds-Layne from Voice of Barbados (VOB) as well. We have become accustomed to the movement of personnel between CBC and VOB over the years and the competition in talk radio should hopefully make for better radio. We have to admit that we are not surprised at the move by Marsha. She appeared to be frustrated in recent months working under the heavy hand of VOB Talk Show Czar Michael Browne. We shouldn’t blame Browne, he is obviously acting under instructions from CEO Vic Fernandes. It is about saving the station money, to hell with standing up to frivolous suits to protect the honour of the Fourth Estate.

Lars G.O. Söderström Lars G.O. Söderström - CEO CBC
Lars G.O. Söderström Lars G.O. Söderström – CEO CBC

Peter Wickham’s departure has come as more of a surprise. After being treated like a step child by the Nation newspaper in the period leading up to the last general election, VOB was steadfast in their support for Wickham. He has admitted this publicly. We can only surmise that Wickham believes working for one year at VOB in the post election period should be enough to reward that loyalty!

A bit of advice to Lars who has been going about his work quietly at the CBC. You don’t need Wickham on the air for three days, he will become boring after awhile. Why not team-up the hugely popular Tony “Admiral’ Nelson and Larry Mayers to cover the topics of Entertainment/Culture/Sports on Wednesdays?  That”s the finish you need!

On the subject of talk shows.

For several years now listeners to VOB have had to tolerate the annoying malfunctioning telephone system which continues to produce poor audio. Many listeners to VOB who call to report the problem are sometimes made to feel that it is their telephone, or their audio pitch, or some reason other than VOB’s malfunctioning telephone system. We have delayed blogging about this problem because there was nothing concrete we could use to point blame. After listening to Peter Wickham last week on CBC, he hinted that he was now working with superior equipment. The cat is now out of the bag. VOB needs to remember who have made them popular, the PEOPLE and show more respect by fixing the problem of its malfunctioning equipment.

The irony is that VOB has increased its afternoon talk show segment to 3 hours but the poor audio quality remains. Could this be about generating more advertising opportunity in what is projected to be a bleak 2009? If it is then it says a lot about how executive management views its obligation to providing good service to the PEOPLE.

Now that Peter Wickham is at CBC it will be interesting to wait for a CADRES study to determine which station  gets to be King of talk show radio in the afternoon.

Thanks to BU family member who prodded us to highlight this matter after several unanswered communications were sent to the station.


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162 responses to “CBC And VOB Battle For Top Talk Show Slot In The Afternoon”


  1. Protocol my ass, unprofessional and undignified how? Protocal is not the law. BTW what is this protocol that is bandied about in here? Where is located that i can look at it? A dead person has never won a defamation law suite. How is “Three Nigerians has died from Aids” difference from “1,200 hundred Barbadians has dies from aids” If Cox is punish for this, he should seek judicial relief. The people of Barbados excluding BU, ROK and this ME person et al should view Mr. Cox as a hero. He is in my eyes.

    …..Thats why i will continue to have a problem when certain people rise to prominence on the backs of Barbadians, duh gine be hearing from me as long as there is breath in my body. chupse


  2. Carson C. Cadogan // January 15, 2009 at 9:21 am

    DAVID

    Do you think that the democratic Labour Party would be in office if brave people did not leak inportant information to the public so that they might know of the level of crookedness of the BLP?

    Now you are in the vanguard of shutting them down.

    Shame on you.

    I support CBC 100%.
    ==========================

    Very good point Carson. The tone that BU takes in the thread is not dissimilar from elitist tone of that double surname person from the nationnews. And it seems that ROK has elevated himself above the masses, to my mind “smarting” from his early successes at the rate hearing.No matter how we aspire to be like the elites they will never let us into their club.

    I am going to post a 66 page PDF on a blog somewhere not here, for those of us bloggers who want to talk but have a fear of being targeted with libel threats. It is titled “defending against slander, but the law is a double edge sword and as such there is much you can gather that will allow you to contribute to the blogs without fear of libeling anyone. There is a world of difference between stating something that you cannot substantiate as an opinion and stating it as fact. It is time to expose all the blood-suckers in Barbados, if there are indeed any bloodsukers. lol!


  3. @AH

    I don’t know why you think I trying to aspire anywhere. I will always be me, no matter where I go or in whose company.

    When called upon, I will bat and the bowling does not matter.


  4. LOL…

    Lets change the nationality of the nurses to Barbadian and the have this occur lets say in the UK …would that be fair?

    Secondly freedom of information freedom of speech freedom of the press comes with responsibility…

    Is it ok to scream fire in an over crowded building because someone lit a match?


  5. Question, would the nurses before workin in the UK , have been made to take blood tests and pass their exam! I am not aufait with the legalities or procedure within these countries! Someone please answer the question!


  6. @ YOU lol!

    We are not in the UK, and i have heard several reports over the years on Barbados radio stations and read in Barbadian news print detailing the HIV/AIDS infections and death rate that was to my mind is much like “x number of Barbadians have died from aids” and this statement is very similar to “x number of Nigerians have died from aids” Where were you then? Have you not heard that the Caribbean has the 2nd highest rate of infections and or deaths from HIV/AIDS in the world? or something to that effect? Does this not treat to a larger number of persons in the same manner that it does the three or two or one Nigerians in Barbados who may have died from Aids? What was the protocol then?

    I don’t have to change anything to prove my case, why do you?


  7. Anonymous // January 15, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    Question, would the nurses before workin in the UK , have been made to take blood tests and pass their exam! I am not aufait with the legalities or procedure within these countries! Someone please answer the question!
    ===========================

    Excellent question! Duh gine only answer if duh don’t know the answer. lol!

    One has to take a HIV blood test for permanent residency status to the US, one has to take another one just to join the US army, and be subjected to one every year after that.

    Can you become a health care worker in Barbados without so doing? Why then does a simple food server have to get a health certificate? What are the things that could disqualify that person from obtaining certification, and thereby deemed them ineligible for the job anything?


  8. a genral statement about the HIV infection rate in a particular country is not the same as saying 3 out of 75 ***ian nurses working in the barbados Health services died of AIDS and went home in body bags so come again.

    The report could have run stating that rate of HIV infection in the health service is X and perhaps raise conecrns about what was being done to ensure safety…but to single out one particular group vs all the others is just nasty!

    If the previous MOH did not require those nurses to take the HIV test then is that the nurses fault?

    If the previous government did not require them to pass an exam is that the nurses fault?

    Is it fair to victimise them over a protocol that they are not responsible for?

    I will resarch the details of the requirements spelled out to these nurses…

    Two wrongs do not make a right ( assuming there was a first wrong)

    Since only two had AIDS officially and one is still alive how do we know that they did not catch HIV while here?


  9. Stupse!


  10. One of my colleagues just asked this question.

    Why when everyone’s economy is in a down turn are they willing to open our doors to illegal immigrants! BAJANS WANNAH SO STUPID! Negroman rinse them out man! Where will we run after they have used us and abused us and there is nothing left they will go home! Where will we go ha h ah ahahahahahahahahlol ya all are a silly bunch!


  11. me // January 15, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    You are full of shit! That is the truth only in B’dos do you find people making excuses for bullshit! AH just confirmed what I thought!

    But AH you realise that although these nurses have been found HIV positive our minister oof HEALTH is stating that nurses WILL not be required to be tested! ONLY IN BIMSHIRE!


  12. Let me take it a step back. Do we even know if their status was regularize per immigration requirements to enter Barbados and specically to meet the requirements of their intent to live and to work?

    What are the immigration requirements to reside, and to work in Barbados?

    Does a potential immigrant have to furnish health documents?

    are there any restrictions on persons with any known declared deseases ailments etc?


  13. People in glass houses should not throw stones…

    If we continue along the path that you are suggesting in terms of how we treat each other I dont see Barbados progressing at all… But hey what do I know ….

    AH and anon clearly know far more than me and are ready and able to lead this country to nirvana…


  14. @You.

    ROK mention some “protocol” that CBC went against in the airing of the news item, do you know what this protocol is? Is it written, assumed, or just thought of?

    There is and has been a lot of secrecy surrounding the presense of these Nigerian nurses in Barbados, I am not going to be party to it continuing, and their interest is not my concern. Sorry!

    What Barbadians need to do is where possible, boycott these people. It is highly insulting to Barbados to have Barbadians nurses at home while having foreign nurses of questionable immigration, qualified, and personal health status working in their place, IN BARBADOS.


  15. where all dese bajan nurses at???

    are you aware that even with the nigerian nurses the QEH is still under staffed GREATLY in terms of nurses? I guess not!

    are you also aware that HIV affects evevryone , not only nigerians
    I think I would be interested in hearing what is the HIV infection rate in all nurses, doctors, nursing aides etc… wouldnt you? and with that info there would be lots to think about dont you agree!


  16. me // January 15, 2009 at 4:37 pm
    said:

    People in glass houses should not throw stones…

    If we continue along the path that you are suggesting in terms of how we treat each other I dont see Barbados progressing at all… But hey what do I know ….

    AH and anon clearly know far more than me and are ready and able to lead this country to nirvana…
    ===========================

    “People” do not only mean Guyanese in Barbados, or Nigerians in Barbados, or the Academic incline, or the privilage few, or the Merchant class, or the Political class, or the middleclass, IT MUST ALSO REFER TO ALL BARBADIANS IN BARBADOS. How some of you divide up and treat your fellow Barbadians can also be questioned, and i do so.

    I am not a socialist, I do not have any goals or aspirations to LEAD anyone. If there is a goal to be had it is to encourage all of us to at all times find great joy and happiness using our GOD GIVEN asset, to think, to reason, and face and deal with the results of so doing. I did that to my satisfaction regarding the news item on these Nigerians, and i remain satisfied with the position that have taken.


  17. and even with the nurses that decided not to work with the board the QEH is still understaffed….

    and finally Mr AH, Mr bajan emigrant to the USA when you go to to Mass General, Beth Israel, Shriners, Brigham and womans or any Boston Hospital are all the nurses american or are they foreign contract workers of immigrants just like you???


  18. Remove the cloak of secrecy from around the the whole issue so that we can see what you are seeing.


  19. and are you certain that they are all HIV negative and that they are fully credentialed???

    And finally are they not human jsut like you?


  20. I have some assurance given the immigration laws of this country that the concerns sorrounding the Nigerian nurses Barbados would not be needed in my neck of the woods, which by the way does not include any of the institution you have mentioned.


  21. me // January 15, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    and are you certain that they are all HIV negative and that they are fully credentialed???

    And finally are they not human jsut like you?
    ===========================

    Currently do not have a need to questioned the qualifications and health status of healthcare workers in my neck of the woods. I am confident that if such concerns were raised, attempts at full disclosure would be initiated, instead of what is occuring in Barbados.

    Case in point in a bordering town to where i live, there was suspicion of cheating in the local police exam, an investigation was started, the chief lost his pick, those cops who cheated were fired.


  22. This is not about me. What my circumstances is has little to do with what is the truth, that you want to silence. To my mind you seem to view everything through a personal look back to your own short comings, and as you suggested, as humans we all have short comings, therefore you find it hard to judge,…truth not withstanding. If we all did that there would be little accountability except for where we want to castigate someone for expecting better, or demanding accountability, from someone else. Lets not teach and demand honesty from our children, because we were at some point in our lives dishonest also.


  23. I fully concur with the sentiments expressed by ROK above

    ASIDE : I believe that it was me who invented that the reference to— the colonial mentality. I have used it so much in the past that I thought that it belonged to me. Good that others can expressed themselves the same.


  24. AH

    There is a protocol for reporting which was established through the NHAC. I was on the Commission at the time when it was happening.

    This is part of the fight against discrimination. It brought on board, the private sector, trades union, medical fraternity, NGOs, Media, Social workers, the child care board, the nurses, etc. you name a stakeholder and they were there.

    This included working out the coding of patients so that test were done anonymously. Not even the lab knew only the doctor and nurses attending the patient.

    This placed a responsibility on Social Workers, employers, nurses, etc. to deal with the disease as prescribed; in a professional manner.

    This was accompanied with awareness exercises, giving tips on how to deal with all emergencies, AIDS or any other condition; principles such as using gloves when approaching injured persons and a code of conducts / behaviour / action that avoid contamination by body fluids; washing hands, etc.

    The awareness offered a level of comfort to participants, to the extent that the reports of who and who has or do not have AIDS did not matter. Even more comforting is the existence of a cocktail that could knock out the disease if caught in time and this is offered to doctors, nurses, or anybody finding themselves contaminated, including victims of rape.

    Having dealt with the discrimination, the focus is now on behavioural change and it is the last hurdle to get over in the fight against HIV/AIDS. If we could achieve this we would wipe it out.


  25. AH

    “This placed a responsibility on Social Workers, employers, nurses, etc. to deal with the disease as prescribed; in a professional manner.”

    In this set I should also have included the media; VOB, CBC, Nation and Advocate. That is why you would not have seen it in the papers and should not have seen it on CBC. Remember this is by agreement between the parties; that all stakeholders must act in a particular (professional) manner.


  26. Asiba

    Colonial mentality is yours, that is why I had to put your name beside it.

    Incidentally, AH, GIS was also part of the stakeholders. All government departments with the remotest link.


  27. Interesting discussion!!!
    Merit on both sides.
    @AH
    I have to agree that any arrangement or protocol which is intended to suppress the truth will be flawed.
    One can easily extrapolate such arguments to many other situations which could encourage graft, crime, and other undesirable outcomes.

    Only the truth can set us free.

    On the other hand, one has to agree that most gossip and even some items of ‘truth’ are best left unsaid.

    Overall, the real solution is to always speak and write the truth – in love.

    i.e.
    If the story is factual, then it should be reported – but it must be done in a tactful, considerate manner – as if it was about the presenter’s own family.

    Any time that we begin to compromise on truth, we start down a slippery route with many pitfalls…. this is why we know so little about so many major projects of the last administration. Someone thought that it was in our ‘best interest’ to remain ignorant…..


  28. That report about the Nigerian nurses dying from AIDS was very distasteful.We have nurses from The Philippines,Guyana,St Vincent & other Caribbean Countries and why not report if any of those nurses have AIDS or other horrible diseases.This country is sickening.That report was just to malign the Nation States that make up the great Africa Continent.I am sure if those nurses were from The USA,Canada or any European Country that story will never be carry.There was nothing news worthy to highlight that nurses from a particular country died from a particular disease.

    I am here wondering if that white general manager at CBC did not had a hand in orchestrating that ridiculous nonsensical news item on those unfortunate Nigerian nurses.I boggles my mine that item was carried as a news item.That is the level journalism we have in Barbados today.

    I am asking CBC when prominent White,Indian or Chinese living in Barbados die please investigate their deaths and let us know what those individuals died from.

    This country is corrupt,with a lot of wicked people in charge.
    Prime Minister David Thompson leads the way.


  29. Where were you then? Have you not heard that the Caribbean has the 2nd highest rate of infections and or deaths from HIV/AIDS in the world? or something to that effect?
    ……………………………………………………….
    Adrian, don’t let your intelligence be clouded by the past behaviour of the past administration. Let’s deal with the media and why I have stated from the outset that it was unprofessional of The CBC. Also, you should research the true data of AIDS death defore positioning the Caribbean as #2. Here’s the 2007 positions

    South Africa
    Nigeria
    Zimbabwe
    Tanzania
    Mozambique
    Uganda
    Malawi
    Ethiopia
    Zambia
    Cameroon
    CHINA
    Cote d’Ivoire
    RUSSIA
    Thailand
    Sudan
    Myrammar
    USA
    Ghana
    Vietnam
    Ukraine
    Lesotho
    BRAZIL

    We must be fully aware that AIDS is not a homo thing, anyone can be infected and we must respect the living connections of those who might have died form it. Remember, it could be your family and trust me, I know of families who were shunned because someone of that household died. We must be humane in our behaviour towards mankind.


  30. BU family please help the BU household to understand and make sense of the dilemma we were in when we first heard about some African nurses possibly having contracted HIV/AIDS from a source. Bare in mind that we currently operate in a society where an individual’s medical history is confidential. How would the BU household have known that the information was beyond reproach? Maybe if we had seen the doctors notes for ourselves our consideration on the matter may have been different.

    Does the BU family remember when David Commisong wrote this letter to the Nation questioning why former David Estwick made the following pronouncement? Obviously the MOH knew more than he was telling the public. Did he intend to send a message to the African nurses which they have not heeded?

    Puzzled by statements about Nigerian nurses

    April 08, 2008

    IT WAS REPORTED in THE NATION that our new Minister of Health, Dr David Estwick, recently addressed a Democratic Labour Party constituency branch meeting and, to great applause, informed the party faithful that he would be sending the Nigerian nurses at the Queen Elizabeth Hospital (QEH) back to Nigeria as soon as their contracts expired.

    Upon reading the report I immediately wondered what impact the minister’s words must have had on the morale of these Nigerian professionals who are striving to serve the Barbadian people in the trying, problem-plagued environment of the QEH.

    Why did the minister make such a statement in such a forum and, why, of all the non-Barbadian nurses, did he single out our African compatriots?

    On behalf of the officers and members of the People’s Empowerment Party, I would like to publicly thank the Nigerian nurses for the valiant and selfless efforts they have made and continue to make to serve our country.

    I am aware that many of them gave up their jobs in Nigeria so as to work in Barbados.

    Those of us who are conscious of the critical importance of developing closer and deeper relations between the Caribbean and Africa welcome the presence of our Nigerian brothers and sisters, and hope that our Minister of Health will come to see the wisdom of inviting those nurses who have performed well to remain here and to continue to serve Barbados in this critical sphere of activity.

    – DAVID A. COMISSIONG


  31. @ David

    From my own perspective, I fail to see any problem with BU’s actions (or lack thereof) in this case. I would not be surprised if there are hundreds of ‘facts’ in your possession as a result of information from sources. Surely we cannot expect you to rush each and every piece into publication.

    Had you chosen to release this particular info, I have great confidence that you would have given the facts in as tactful and considerate a manner as you have generally done with other scoops.

    The fact that you chose NOT to publish is a matter of your editorial judgement too and we respect that.

    I for one think that you have been a model of openness, fairness and decency almost to a fault.

    If you ever decide to get on ‘igrant’, I recommend that you start by banning Bimbro/199 and ru4real for ‘gross disrespect for the laws of logical BLOG discourse’
    LOL ha ha ha wahloss


  32. David

    Many Questions: could one cite the Minister’s statement as discrimination against a particular set of people? Did he give a reason?

    Are there legal ramifications?

    Do you think this reinforced feelings of xenophobia in Barbadians by targeting “foreigners”?


  33. The truth is ROK we don’t know what to make of the former Minister’s statement. Logic forces us to ask the same question Commissong asked. Why single out the Nigerians when they are other groups of nurses. Seems to be some ethical matters which are raising heads.


  34. David. I was the first to respond to the CBC’s release due to the reckless expose of patient’s confidentiality. This action could have culminated with the first report by the last MOH and probably this last report could have been made to justify why he said that he would be sending back these nurses. I would like to know who give CBC the inside information. If the head of news was following protocol regarding patient’s confidentiality in respect to HIV/AIDS, he would have done like the other media and the two blogs in being professional. Surprisingly, Keltruth who is always on the blog ball refused to even deal with the issue. So I ask CBC, was your action based on your political agenda. I feel that the entire board should be removed since no one feel that it was reckless reporting the story. I rest my case. Things will just resort to normalcy.

    WIV, why?


  35. Both governments know which country to pressure. Guyana is the most vulnerable, now we are looking at the Nigerians. Check with how we dealt with the Indians with World Cup. We accommodate them and send them back home without any fuss. Probably, we are ensuring the economic climate with these large scale employers are not compromised.


  36. David, what about taking this Nigerian nurses story and making it separate from the heading that it is under. Just asking!!!!

  37. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    Sending black Barbadian nurses home to sit and do nothing was the height of foolishness.

    Then to give their jobs to foreigners was despicable.

    The fact that Nigerian “nurses” are starting to fall like nine pins from aids is poetic justice.

    Foreigners working at the Queen Elizebeth Hospital and being paid by Barbadian tax payers and Black Barbadian nurses sent home unable to pursue their chosen career is something I thought that would never happen in this Barbados.

    God does not like ugly.

    Some one on this blog said that the Nigerians may not renew their contracts and will return home, I say,Bravo. The sooner they leave the sooner we can once again offer employment to our Black Barbadian sisters, women whose integrity we can vouch for.

    The Barbados Labour Party has a lot to answer for.


  38. Sending black Barbadian nurses home to sit and do nothing was the height of foolishness.
    ……………………………………………………….
    Carson, Oh Carson. Your loyalty is unblemished, your brain is still unblemished. You seems to take history and convert it to your wimp and fancy. You fail or you deliberately refused to admit that the nurses made the decision not to go with the board. No one was sent home my friend. I have to admire you being the devil’s advocate and you keep the blogs active my giving your own interpretation even if it is far from the truth.

    I know may nurses who prefer to part company, get the monies owned to them and start working at the various government health clinics. Same government, new salary, nuff money on the bank.

    So Carson.These nurses weren’t push. They jump, that’s right, jump right into the bank laughing.


  39. AH the wonderful thing about being human is our ability to feel empathy for others and to have respect.

    Ill leave it at that… Im looking forward to seeing this new Barbados where everything TRUE is just announced !


  40. @ Tell me why

    My statement was an opinion. It sought to deal with a statement made at some point that cast all caribbean people in the same light as the CBC news item dealing with the Nigerians.

    The following speaks to my opinion, that such a statement was indeed made, and i know that i heard it and read it via Barbados media.

    “Overall HIV Trends Caribbean
    Outside of sub-Saharan Africa, the Caribbean has the highest HIV prevalence in the world. In 2006, AIDS was one of the region’s leading causes of death among adults aged 15 to 44, claiming the lives of an estimated 19,000 people. That year alone, approximately 27,000 people were newly infected with HIV, according to UNAIDS. The number of people living with HIV/AIDS (PLWHA) in the Caribbean is estimated to be 250,000. Nearly three-quarters of them are from two countries: the Dominican Republic and Haiti. National adult HIV prevalence rates are high throughout the region: 1 to 2 percent in Barbados, the Dominican Republic, Jamaica, and Suriname, and 2 to 4 percent in the Bahamas, Guyana, Haiti, and Trinidad and Tobago. The Caribbean epidemic is fueled by a culture in which men are encouraged to have multiple sexual partners, by a thriving sex industry, and by MEn having sex with MEn.

    Here is another tit bit from the article that i think speaks to this issue and the culture of secrecy in Barbados.

    “Given the poor quality of epidemiological data in the region, the HIV status of most people is not known, and the true magnitude of the epidemic is thus not known.”

    Not only USAID, but the IMF via 14 years of consultations with the GOB have decried the lack of good record keeping, and good data. Even Lynette Eastman decried the culture of information hoarding in Barbados.

    I strongly believe that Barbados would have been much further if such secrecy, and information hoarding was not endemic.

    I made no reference to the year, as it is not important to the point i am making.

    If you continue to bring my intelligence of lack thereof in the discussion i will be dragging yours into it as well. lol!

    Keep it up the obituries don’t lie.

    11Jan2008)Sunday Sun:
    Anthony H -age 43, Sonia C -age 51, Ormond C-age 48, Nigel G-age 40, Glynne H-age 58, William M-age 55, Mark H-age 38, Anthony S-age 56, Tracey I-age 35, David H-age 47, Cleston T-age 52,

    I don’t know what these persons died from but the ages should be of concern, and given the culture of secrecy and information hoarding, it may be long time before we can begin to act.

    http://www.usaid.gov/our_work/global_health/aids/Countries/lac/caribbean_profile.pdf


  41. AH I agree that knowing more truths about the HIV epidemic would help, I agree that we keep quiet about alot of things here to our detriment but I still dont get that agreeing with the above makes it acceptable to broadcsat false and inflammatory info about the Nigerian nurses…

    Truths:
    >>>Only one nigerian nurse died of AIDS
    >>>based on the known rate of infection there are probably several bajan nurses infected with HIV
    >>> a nurse would have to intentionally inject you with her/his blood to infect you with HIV ( or sleep with you unsafely)
    >>> Barbados has a severe shortage of nurses
    >>> AIds is not the only thing killing our young people. heart disease, diabetes etc etc are quite prevalent.
    >>> Confidentiality of medical records is the norm in the developped world.


  42. If the story is untrue that’s a whole different ball game. Who is correct you or CBC? In my opinion you have an agenda so i am not going to readily believe anything on this coming from you, on this matter. Where is your proof coming from? and if CBC is still sticking to their story they must be doing from a position of varifiable facts. what say you?


  43. Me when i take all that you have said above and i place it next to the issue at hand, which is “should CBC have broadcast the truth” I am still not persuaded away from a YES answer. The fact that it was NIGERIANS mentioned and given the issues surrounding their presense in Barbados, I am even more so in agreement with airing it. However if the news item had mentioned Barbadian nurses or any other i still would not have a had a problem with it.

    ….but i want to single out the following comment you made

    ” AIds is not the only thing killing our young people. heart disease, diabetes etc etc are quite prevalent”

    I agree and will be returning to this when there is a discussion centered around public figures and the setting good/bad examples. For now though i am willing to speculate on the ages we see reflected in the Obituries, the stats contain in the USaid article and the epidemic of life desease affecting Barbados, that those death are more likely to be HIV related than lifestyle desease related. My speculation is further bolstered i believe by statements i have seen, from Dr. Henry Frazer, the former Minister of health, and few others that suggest we have an epidemic of people (living) with lifestyle deseases, and not deaths. Quite frankly I don’t think it is very prevelant for someone to die at age 40-53 from hypertention, diabeties and other lifestyle deseases. Suffering yes deaths no.

    Lifestyle diseases (also called diseases of longevity or diseases of civilization) are diseases that appear to increase in frequency as countries become more industrialized and people live longer. They include Alzheimer’s disease, atherosclerosis, asthma, cancer, chronic liver disease or cirrhosis, Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease, Type 2 diabetes, heart disease, metabolic syndrome, nephritis or chronic renal failure, osteoporosis, acne, stroke, depression and obesity.

    Wikipeidia


  44. So if you stick with our assumption that the deaths and ages we are seeing the in the obits are more related to lifestyle deseases, than HIV/AID, then Wikipedia’s definition cannot be right, cause Barbados is indeed a civilized country. Yes?


  45. In todays Nation… it was made clear that one of the nurses said to have died by CBC is very much alive…

    My sources also reveal that one of the nurses had cancer not AIDS

    so clearly the report was not accurate!

    Secondly it is a known fact in the medical circles to which im privy that bajans have a strong sense of denial with respcet to lifestyle diseases and the big CA cancer… hence the high rate of amputations, deaths from Diabetes an heart disease etc
    I dont disagree that some people are dying from AIDS withoutb that cause being disclosed but it is a very big stretch to ASSUME that AIDs is the main cause of death in those people you saw in the paper considering the other prevalent diseases in BIM ( which btw also includes ASTHMA)

    So you would have no problem is a TV sation in Boston announced that 3 of 75 Bajan nurses were sent home in body bags and that they could not pass their exams and that the current govt in say Boston had no intention of getting nurses from Barbados. If you say yes… you are indeed harsh and unfeeling…. But i guess thats just you!


  46. So you would have no problem is a TV sation in Boston announced that 3 of 75 Bajan nurses were sent home in body bags and that they could not pass their exams and that the current govt in say Boston had no intention of getting nurses from Barbados. If you say yes… you are indeed harsh and unfeeling…. But i guess thats just you
    ==========================

    If it is all true. I would want to know about it. I cannot begin to empathize or sympathize, and more importantly work with the state government (in my neck of the wood) and with Barbadians authorities to repair and correct .

    You are poor judge of what harsh and unfeeling is. I think it is more harsh and unfeeling to hush it up and not give anyone a chance to deal with it. Those who are not move to actions when so much wrong is clearly in need of being righted are to my mind the hars and unfeeling.

    It is not a big stretch for me base on how i outline the statements and statistics I used to speculate as i have.


  47. what if your sister was one of the nurses singled out ? what if she was the one who had not died?

    the other issue is do we know or care about the situation these same nurses face in Nigeria wehn they return home, it terms of the negative stigma attached to HIV…

    I ma not sure if the crimminal deportees are announced on the TV

  48. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    TELL ME WHY

    “you being the devil’s advocate”

    So that is how you see it. Almost everyone on this blog supporting Nigerian “nurses”, trashing Barbadian CBC and I am the only idiot supporting Barbadian CBC.

    I maintain that these foreigners should not be working at the Queen Elizebeth Hospital in the first place taking away Barbadian jobs. Whatever happens to them happens to them and it must be revealed.


  49. AH

    What makes you think that HIV/AIDS cannot now be classified as a lifestyle disease?


  50. TMW, why you wasting time with Carson. He is the only person marching in time. All others are marching out of time. LOL!

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