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In recent years, Barbadians have had to face the challenge of a financial environment characterised by either very low or even negative returns on savings in financial institutions especially banks. This scenario one suspects must be negatively impacting consumer behaviour as well as creating a drag on Barbados’ economic performance. A couple recent news events triggered a few random thoughts in the mind of a curious blogmaster.

Governor of the Central Bank Kevin Greenidge raised the alarm recently that “over 28 per cent of defined benefit plans remain unfunded, with an average funding rate of 84.1 per cent. That must be addressed. Couple this with a declining birth rate, and the long-term sustainability challenges become clear.” What are the relevant state owned entities doing?

Governor of the Central Bank, Dr. Kevin Richards
Governor of the Central Bank, Dr. Kevin Greenidge

The other news that piqued the interest was the collapse of TKY pyramid scheme which reportedly resulted in many Barbadians losing thousands of dollars. The blogmaster is unsurprised those responsible will walk away all the way to the bank – see FTC Must Prosecute Kirk Brown

Why ‘intelligent’ Barbadians would give currency to the saying that a fool and his money are soon parted? We must ponder if there is a deeper reason many are willing to risk putting hard earned money into pyramid schemes like TKY. The blogmaster wonders if such behaviour can be traced to the downside associated with low and negative returns on savings and less risky investment opportunities in Barbados.

One of the impacts of low or negative returns is the bite into savings. When the interest earned on savings accounts barely keeps pace with inflation—or worse, when consumers incur charges that effectively result in negative returns—the purchasing power of those savings diminishes over time. For example, if a savings account in Barbados is less than 0.5% interest rate in an environment with about 4% inflation, the real return is effectively negative. The blogmaster suspects the hunt for greater returns on savings and good investments is part of the reason some are prepared to engaged in risky financial behaviour.

Barbadians who have historically relied on traditional banking products for savings maybe experiencing frustration at the minimal growth in returns on savings coupled with fees. This dissatisfaction could be leading to erratic and irational behaviour by some when making financial decisions.

Human behaviour is typically based on greed, some Barbadians therefore may abandon tried and trusted conservative saving strategies by turning to riskier investment options. In a country where too many Barbadians have been described as financially illiterate this shift in behaviour has severe consequences, especially for individuals at the lower end. As people chase higher yields on investments one can expect more TKY incidents.

A behaviour we must also monitor is financial decision making leading to relying on debt to fund living expenses. Haven’t we been seeing reliance on credit cards and personal loans with the rise of Courts Readycash, Get Cash and other get cash quick entities?

The blogmaster suspects the downside risks associated with consumers earning low or negative returns is not being seriously discussed in the country. In the same way we have become dependent on exports for our survival, we have also become dependent on talking heads to shape information fed to us. Why are we allocating a significant percentage of the national budget to education?


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130 responses to “Are low interest rates forcing Barbadians to adopt TKY behaviour?”


  1. @Bush Tea

    Do you have the technology and expertise in Barbados to construct the plant? Do we need the plant?


  2. John A
    November 22, 2024 at 10:44 am
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    @ David

    Our problem is we dump all money in the consolidated fund where it is spent foolishly and then we borrow to make up what we did. Let me give you one example.

    The fuel tax generates millions for the state why is that money not credited to the MTW account and not the consolidated fund? Why 6 years later i am still driving on cartroads when by now this island could have grade A roads island wide? The reason is simply that only a small percentage of the funds collected by the fuel tax made its way to MTW. BUT IN THE MEANTIME WE GOT SOME OF THE MOST EXPENSIVE GAS GLOBALLY!

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Ditto the Water Rates!!

    Tom Adams relieved the WWD of the tens of millions they had on hand to invest in infrastructural development and dumped that into the slush fund aka consolidated fund.

    We could actually have had a planned and sensible water supply system not one that is plagued by the cyclical nature of the weather, euphemistically labeled climate change by the politicians, and the whims and fancies of exotic planning permissions!!

    Meantime there are developments all over the island which routinely lack water supply because of land development.


  3. David
    November 22, 2024 at 2:30 pm
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    @Bush Tea

    Do you have the technology and expertise in Barbados to construct the plant? Do we need the plant?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Define need!!

    Do we need to borrow $600 million or whatever to dig up the St. George valley and construct a pipe line to carry water to farmers in St. Philip?

    Probably not.

    There is plenty of water underground at River Plantation assuming it has not been used already.


  4. ” A new piece of legislation, the Water Reuse Act 2023,”

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2024/11/22/new-act-will-police-reused-water-in-barbados/


  5. an wunna doan collect one drop.


  6. Thereby hangs a tale.

    When you force water underground to “replenish” the aquifer, it carries with it the soil (wash mould) which makes it brown.

    Depending on where the water is forced underground, it will follow one of the conduits cut by underground streams straight into the sheet water from which BWA extracts the potable water.

    I suspect that is what is causing the brown water from Alleynedale pumping station further up the coast about which the folks in St. Lucy complain so bitterly.

    Haven’t found the drainage works yet but looking using google earth historic imagery.

    Got one possibility close to Mile and a Quarter.

    Sounds like the gully was dammed to prevent flooding in Speightstown which has been reduced significantly but it has impacted the turbidity at Alleynedale.

    Old time Bajans would have solved it differently …. they would not have been crazy enough to have built their houses in known flood prone areas.

    Sunset Crest is largely built in a field called “Swampy Ground”.

    So, it floods, big deal!!


  7. If I am right and the ability of Alleynedale Pumping station to deliver clear water has been affected, then the only solution would be to make folks in St. Lucy catch their own water when it rains.

    The legislation regulating the reuse of water suggests to me that is what is happening.

    It has nothing to do with climate change, it is all to do with flawed decisions by the powers that be.


  8. @ David
    Do you have the technology and expertise in Barbados to construct the plant? Do we need the plant?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    LOL
    A sewerage plant is just a large toilet system…. and OF COURSE we have the expertise to deal with sewage in BB.
    In fact, a number of large, independent, sustainable sewerage systems already exists here, and work very well too.
    The only reason that such systems are not promoted by government, is that there is not a lot of room for ‘loan finders fees’, leakages, consultants, Boards, and jobs for friends and constituents.
    Would you expect the ‘experts’ at BWA or Ministry of Health to recommend such an approach..? what would they then do to look busy…when everything works flawlessly?

    ..and what excuse would the politicians have for the fun of going after $600m public loans?
    Do YOU know how much is even 1% of $600M?


  9. @Bush Tea

    Then it must be the conditions attached to the grant money forcing foreign expertise?


  10. Boss..
    Foreign expertise don’t talk back, or oppose idiotic political demands.

    ‘Foreign experts’ are highly preferred by our politicians…
    Many of them are like prophets – highly rated, except in their homelands…where they are generally second rated. They almost ALWAYS do exactly as they are told (or are just paid and ignored)

    ‘Foreign experts’ don’t have to live here, their ONLY objective is to get project sign-off, and get on a plane.

    BUT…
    Local experts are a lotta trouble…
    They ask difficult questions about the REAL issues (that politicians don’t like to discuss)
    They are concerned about their long term REPUTATION when the shit hits the fan…

    Worse of all, the local experts went to school with the political jokers in charge…
    LOL … and know intimately of their (lack of) capacities and their inclinations towards idiocy…

    The grant money conditions are just icing on the cake.
    Foreign experts are highly prized by BBs.

    Do you see now, why everything is ‘foreign’?

    Imagine we have BILLIONS of dollars just sitting in our banks – as John A explained, and our politicians NEVER put any offers to us to borrow THAT money for investments, (because they would be required to be transparent and SENSIBLE with the details)… but always bragging about the willingness of ‘foreign interest’ to lend us money… and then the details are always hush hush…

    steupsss

    Thank God – the jobby will end sooner rater than later


  11. While we are on the subject of jobby, Bajans describe any prospective water from a sewage plant even with tertiary treatment, as “jobby water”!!

    Under those circumstances the output sewage plant will be useless in augmenting the drinking water supply even though we are using it all like now from many public supply wells, particularly Spring Garden.

    If in addition there is unused water underground at River, what would be the incentive to farmers to pay an arm and a leg for the “jobby water” produced?

    It isn’t that the goose that laid the golden eggs has been killed, it has also been cooked.


  12. It is more than likely that it is just too late to change course with pseudo captains bent on business as usual.

    Go and look at what Barbados looks like on Google Earth imagery.


  13. One attempted solution to Sewage in a built up area.


  14. A good Ted talk.


  15. Bajans ought to know that ALL water is recycled, either artificially or naturally. Ain’t nobody making fresh water out of nothing. After all this time on earth, all water is jobby water.

    Too besides, they jump in the sea and get their mouths full of water with scores of big backsides in it. Not to mention that people often pee right there in the water.

    I had fun one day making coworkers think of the fact that when you smell a fart, it’s actually air coming straight out of the farter’s botsie up the nose you have in the air.

    Fun facts for fake foolish folk!

    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


  16. @Bush Tea

    It honest language you are calling Straughn and by extension the government a liar?


  17. @John A

    Good news?

    ‘NO LOSS’

    BENEFITS FOR BONDHOLDERS FROM DEBT-FOR- CLIMATE DEAL – STRAUGHN
    Stories by Emmanuel Joseph
    Government bondholders will not face losses despite a new $600 million debt-forclimate swap deal with commercial banks, Minister in the Ministry of Finance Ryan Straughn assured Friday.
    The arrangement, touted to deliver $300 million in savings, will involve buying back some of the most costly bonds, including those held by the National Insurance and Social Security Service (NISSS), without adding to the national debt burden, he said.
    The bonds were issued in three categories: Series B for individuals, Series D for mixed entities, and Series E for the NISSS.
    “The most expensive debt on our portfolio is Series E, which is at eight per cent right now,” said the finance minister on VOB’s Down to Brass Tacks call-in programme.“Some of the other series… have different levels. I believe the Series D is 4.75, while the Series B is 4.25, speaking subject to correction. Approximately $400 million of the Series E is intended for buy-back as part of this deal… which means about $200 million is between Series B and Series D. What does that mean? It actually means that NIS is getting money. Unlike the previous scenario where NIS was unsure, and unclear as to whether they would get the money back that they were lending government, this actually gives the NIS cash.”
    Straughn contended that the concerns Barbadians expressed over reforms last year have eased due to economic growth.
    He said: “As part of what we are doing in this framework… under the last administration, there were literally no reserves to allow the NIS to invest abroad. So, as part of what we are doing here is twofold. We are paying back NIS early, they would have cash which they would then deploy elsewhere.
    They need long-term instruments to match their liabilities. We will be, as well, issuing some debentures to be able to utilise some of that.”
    The administration has been working with the Central Bank to ensure the NISSS and other pension funds have access to more foreign exchange for overseas investments, he told the radio programme.
    Straughn said: “To the extent that the [NISSS] and any other pension fund is given access to foreign exchange, which we do have right now to allow them to invest abroad, it means that the pension concerns that Barbadians had would not be the same level of concern, simply because NIS will have, for the first time in a while, the opportunity to invest substantively at home as well as abroad.”
    Straughn dismissed the concerns about potential losses for bondholders under the new deal and highlighted potential benefits.
    “The question here is, to be able to get the maximum savings to be able to finance the restructuring of the debt,” he said. “So, I will say to people, there will be other opportunities for investment; and therefore, there is really no disincentive for getting monies early in relation to where it is now; and therefore, reinvesting that in a subsequent issuance.
    “Based on what we have done since the restructuring… we have restarted the treasury bill market. This part of this process is really to allow us to have debt issuance at various durations… such that the credit ratings and praise that we have gotten in recent times, would actually be beneficial to the country.”
    He explained that the government is buyingback debt and reissuing it at a fixed 3.25 per cent interest rate.
    The minister said that achieving maximum savings is critical to funding key water and sewage infrastructure projects, including upgrades to the South Coast Sewage Plant, a solar photovoltaic facility, and a pipeline for water delivery to support food security initiatives.
    “The average person who may be holding a bond, may not wish to go to the stock exchange,” he said, “and as you know, you will get a cheaper discount. And therefore, the fact that we have provided an opportunity for persons to trade into their reverse option, actually makes it easier in relation to if persons want to be able to get money soon.”
    Insisting that bondholders would not be penalised, Straughn said that if the bonds matured as originally planned in 15 years, they would be paid in full.

    Source: BT emmanueljoseph@barbadostoday.bb


  18. @Bush Tea

    Economist praises debt-for-climate swap but warns about risks

    A groundbreaking $600 million debt-for-climate swap deal has drawn both praise and caution from a leading economist.
    The arrangement, which will fund a $240 million upgrade to facilities including the South Coast Sewage Treatment Plant, was hailed by Professor Justin Robinson as a “forward-thinking approach”. But he also cautioned about potential risks.
    The Principal of the University of the West Indies Five Islands Campus praised the initiative as a pioneering step in debt management and climate action that also positions Barbados as a leader in innovative financing within the region, if not the world.
    The government is seeking approval to secure a sustainability-linked syndicated loan facility amounting to approximately $600 million.
    The loan, facilitated under the Special Loans Act, aims to refinance high-cost public debt, reducing overall interest expenses and improving debt sustainability, the UWI principal explained to Barbados TODAY. The financing is to be sourced by three Canadian banks here – CIBC Caribbean Bank (Barbados) Limited, Scotiabank (Barbados) Limited, and RBC Royal Bank (Barbados) Limited.
    CIBC is to act as the facility arranger.
    Key features of the loan include an amount of up to $600 million, a fixed interest rate of 3.25 per cent per annum, and terms incentivising the achievement of sustainability performance targets (SPTs), with a minor penalty rate of 0.2 per cent per annum for non-achievement.
    The 20-year loan matures in October 2044, with a five-year, three-month grace period. Repayments are scheduled to commence in January 2030, with quarterly instalments of approximately $9.9 million.
    Professor Robinson said Barbados stands to benefit from significantly reduced borrowing costs, easing the government’s financial burden over time and creating a foundation for greater economic stability.
    He highlighted sustainability goals as a key advantage, noting that the loan encourages adherence to global environmental, social, and governance (ESG) standards, reflecting Barbados’ commitment to sustainability.
    Risk mitigation is another positive feature, with provisions designed to ensure financial flexibility during crises such as natural disasters and pandemics.
    But the finance expert outlined potential risks.
    “Upfront costs include arrangement, legal, and facility agent fees totalling US$255 000 [$510 000], along with ongoing agency fees. Despite these expenses, the refinancing strategy is expected to yield net savings over the loan term,” Professor Robinson said.
    He cautioned that failing to meet the performance targets could slightly increase loan costs, although the impact is minor at 0.2 per cent annually. Additionally, the loan’s 20-year tenure, while easing immediate financial pressure, extends obligations into the future.
    Professor Robinson acknowledged the upfront and ongoing fees as a concern, noting they reduce the funds available for immediate use.
    As a strategic initiative, he contended that the facility reflects the government’s commitment to prudent financial management and sustainable development.
    The economist recommended the government prioritise transparency by clearly communicating sustainability goals and progress to the public, utilise the Natural Disaster and Pandemic Clause to maintain financial stability during crises and conduct regular reviews of debt performance and its impact on public finances.(EJ)

    Source: BT


  19. @ David
    “Economist (whatevertheHell THOSE are…) praises debt-for-climate swap…”
    LOL ha ha

    “Bushie …you are calling Straughn and by extension the government a liar?”
    Skippa…THAT would be unparliamentary….

    However, in probably his VERY first statement as a minister, he lambasted the ridiculous tax benefits held by the Lottery …and proclaimed it gone….
    Bushie is still waiting… for that not to THAT to not qualify as a ‘mis-truth’..

    You and others may be impressed by jokers playing gymnastic games with debt, while tightening the noose around our collective necks..
    But NOT stinking Bushie…

    BTW one ‘economist’ who almost always seem to get it right, is Ms Crystal Drakes.
    But mostly, she seems to exhibit three basic traits…
    Honesty, fearlessness and basic common sense…. which makes her one in 100,000.


  20. Donna
    November 23, 2024 at 6:18 am
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    Bajans ought to know that ALL water is recycled, either artificially or naturally. Ain’t nobody making fresh water out of nothing. After all this time on earth, all water is jobby water.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    If you really understood anything about water you would not make such a statement!!

    It makes you look foolish and this Bajan knows you are talking plain foolishness

    Water exists in three phases, sold, liquid and vapour.

    Water vapour is pure, absolutely ZERO jobby.

    It exists in the clouds and when it condenses, rain falls and water vapour transitions to the liquid phase, water.

    Tell us how rain, when it falls, gets jobby in it if there is no jobby in the vapour phase?

    We Bajans who know better would love to see your answer!!


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  22. @ David

    Remember what i said about borrowing from Tom at a lower rate to pay off Paul? So here is the truth.

    The plan is to pay back persons and the NIS their bond values. This will make all we feel real good and hopefully instill faith in government paper again. Then Straughn and the party will offer you a Z bond or some other name one, at a maturity rate say of 15 years at around 3.5% or there abouts. Wunna will buy them cause you just get give back money and the bank offering you not even 1% on you money. So what else you going put the money in ?

    Now what dis mean to Bim? Well Straughn did not lie when he said the process will not cost the island anything more yearly BUT what he omitted saying, is that it WILL increase our total debt by a good bit. So say i lend you $100 over 10 years at 5% and you decide no I want the $100 over 20 years instead at 4%, you monthly payment drop but the amount you now owe gone up. Prolonged interest cost in you tail! So question is which poison we want?


  23. @John
    It exists in the clouds and when it condenses, rain falls and water vapour transitions to the liquid phase, water
    ++++++
    Ahem….Could you explain where the water vapour in those clouds come from?


  24. @Bush Tea Bush Tea November 22, 2024 at 11:08 pm
    “Worse of all, the local experts WENT TO SCHOOL WITH the political jokers in charge…LOL..and know intimately of their (lack of) capacities and their inclinations towards idiocy…”

    Shhhhush!

    What you have to go and say this for?


  25. @Donna November 23, 2024 at 6:18 am “Not to mention that people OFTEN pee right there in the water.”

    What do you mean by often.

    I ALWAYS pee in the sea, and while I am there I give my privates and my botsy a good wash too.

    Step out of the sea, nice and clean.


  26. Water vapor in clouds comes from evaporation and transpiration, which are processes that release water into the atmosphere:

    Evaporation: Liquid water from oceans, lakes, and rivers turns into water vapor. Warmer air can contain more water vapor than colder air.

    Transpiration: Plants release water vapor through their pores.

    Water vapor in the air rises into the atmosphere, where it cools and condenses into water droplets that form clouds. This process is called condensation.


  27. Sarge

    Here I was thinking all, or mostly all, Bajans knew this stuff!!

    It comes from the sea ….. sans any jobby!!!

    Saturated vapour pressure and all that neat stuff from O and A level Physics and Chemistry.

    Jobby gets left, in fact all impurities get left as the pure water molecules are pulled into the sky.

    A miracle of creation.

    Maybe that is how we rise from the grave, pure, unblemished and shorn of all jobby and other imperfections.


  28. @John
    Here I was thinking all, or mostly all, Bajans knew this stuff!!
    +++++++
    Old trial lawyers ( not that I am one) apply this bit of wisdom.

    “You never ask a question on cross examination to which you do not know the answer to.”
    I don’t want to speak for “Donna” but isn’t she referring to water on this planet? So why do you have to reach into the clouds to try to prove that she is incorrect? BTW mankind has been consuming “jobby water” for years, all the major cities in the world where people have been living for thousands of years are on the shores of lakes, rivers or oceans.

    BTW are clouds polluted?


  29. Sigh…..

    My son learnt about the water cycle in PRIMARY school. I’ve still got the wall chart I bought from Woolworth.

    I myself did Biology and Chemistry at A level and Physics at O level. So that when my son’s secondary school science teacher proved to be a bum, I was able to teach him the whole syllabus INCLUDING THE WATER CYCLE in just three weeks. He came first with only sixty-eight percent, but that was an achievement for only three weeks of studying three term’s work.

    Therefore, silly man, I was not suggesting that there is jobby floating in the air. I was referring to the fact that all water in our earthly environment is recycled and would likely have passed through somebody’s bowels at some point in time over the hundreds of thousands of years of our existence before being purified either artificially or naturally.

    You are so desperate to prove yourself superior that you assume the most ridiculous things!

    Buzz off, Bozo!


  30. @Cuhdear

    Please don’t share that much info as I am now afraid to go sea bathing.
    If I knew which beach you were going to I would visit it armed with a couple of big rocks to ‘donate’ to you.

    I was amused by the ongoing discussion on the water cycle, but after your input I am considering filtering and distilling my drinking water.

    Not only do you attack the good names of the men of Barbados, you are now dousing us with your pee water.

    God help us.


  31. @John
    What about COVID? Is the virus removed during the water cycle? I may not be 100% accurate, but I seem to recall that at one stage, you thought it would be in rain water? Am I incorrect? If so, I agolopize.


  32. COVID can’t be in rain water as it falls.

    Co2 will dissolve in the rain water as it falls making it slightly acidic and also H2S, farts although you would need to look at the solubility product for H2S vs CO2.

    However as it percolates through the earth and comes into contact with sewage and jobby which contains the virus the water will be a vector for COVID, as it is for other viruses (eg polio) and bacteria (eg cholera) …… all standard stuff.


  33. Some stuff all aspiring physical chemists should pertaining to this discussion!!


  34. @The OG November 24, 2024 at 9:53 am “Cuhdear Please don’t share that much info as I am now afraid to go sea bathing. If I knew which beach you were going to I would visit it”

    A mere drop in the vastness of the Atlantic. It is not as though I am a cruise ship or oil well polluting the ocean. However NEVER EVER in swimming pools.


  35. Cuhdear Bajan,

    The ocean may be vast, but that does not matter if you are surrounded by other sea-bathers.


  36. Here’s how you can get jobby free water in Barbados!!


  37. If you want drinking water from your roof here’s what you can do.


  38. If you want an even cheaper way ..


  39. Donna
    November 25, 2024 at 3:40 am
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    Cuhdear Bajan,

    The ocean may be vast, but that does not matter if you are surrounded by other sea-bathers.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Any bacteria, viruses fleas or ticks that you may emit will find a way into your neighbour’s mouth, nose, eyes ears …. or private parts.


  40. 500 million dollar loan.


  41. your new best friend or frenemy ?

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  42. @Donna November 25, 2024 at 3:40 am “Cuhdear Bajan, the ocean may be vast, but that does not matter if you are surrounded by other sea-bathers.”

    @John November 25, 2024 at 10:40 am “Any bacteria, viruses fleas or ticks that you may emit will find a way into your neighbour’s mouth, nose, eyes ears …or private parts.”

    Oh lordy, lordy. We fri’ten for a drop of pee in the ocean. Do you know that I have been donating blood for many, many decades, dozens and dozens of times, and nobody is sick or dead yet. I’ve never had an STI, so you can both calm down. And if it offers you any comfort I haven’t gone to the beach yet this year, so no bacteria, viruses fleas or ticks have been discharged by me into the vastness of the Atlantic in 2024.

    So calm down and enjoy your sea bath or swim.


  43. Cuhdear Bajan,

    You think it unreasonable to not want your pee in our faces?


  44. I have not been in the sea since the early 1990’s at Miami Beach once I got to understand that the sewage produced on land ends up in the sea, even from St. Thomas.

    I watched the crazy development of the land and just kept out of the sea starting in the 1980’s on the West Coast, no big deal!!

    If you want to do your business in the sea that is your business, just as is everyone else around you in the sea, and on land!!

    Clearly you subscribe to the golden rule, “do do unto others as you would have them do do unto you”.

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