Every human being, regardless of nationality or economic situation, has the same birth-right. It is their right to be true to themselves. This may be called personal integrity – a consistent and uncompromising adherence to truth, regardless of the beneficial or harmful consequences of doing so. This right is for a lifetime.
Knowing what is true of a specific issue may not always be known, but it may be found through honest evidence-based (or scientific) discussion of that issue.
Adherence to truth is an invaluable possession. Like any other possession, it can be traded. Since it is invaluable, it cannot be purchased, because there is nothing of comparable value. It can only be exchanged. Exchanging truth for truth is a meaningless exchange. Truth can only be exchanged for a lie.
LEADERSHIP.
There are two types of leaders – those who serve, and those who are served. All of us are born entirely dependent on others for our survival. As we grow into adulthood, we desire to be both independent, and all that we can be. Servant-leaders implement policies that facilitate that personal growth, so that people can reach their potential.
For various reasons, some people prefer to be dependent as adults. Whether because of trauma or mis-education, some people have no real aspirations and are fearful of being independent. They prefer to serve parent-leaders, and are content with symbolic declarations of illusory aspirations.
PARENTING ADULTS.
Leaders who are forced to lead a dependent people are doing something unnatural. Responsible parenting prepares the next generation to become independent. A generation that prefers to serve a parent-type leader, rather than soaring, needs additional training to prepare them for adulthood.
Leaders are not supposed to parent adults. When they take on that role, despite their best intentions, they can only turn that loving natural act into something tragically grotesque. For example, a servant leader will aim to provide an economic environment where parents can easily care for their elderly parents. Parent-leaders will aim to force the elderly in institutions, where they can be efficiently attended to.
Paradoxically, the deeper the care that motivates parent-leader policies, the more the implementation of those policies tends to retard and suffocate the led.
THE AGE OF TYRANNY.
Those most retarded in their development, tend to initially view increasing Government forced control as a comforting motherly embrace. Those who desire to soar will feel the tightening yoke of oppression. If the public rebels against the suffocating policies, the nation may enter an age of tyranny as leaders forcibly try to maintain control.
Every nation has its extreme radical activists with unpopular radical agendas. Extreme radical activists continually invite leaders to force their radical agendas on the public. Wise leaders decline those invitation. Unwise leaders do not.
Parent-leaders who attempt to force radical agendas, that are not supported by truth, on a country, cause the people to confront their true selves. Those citizens are presented with the clear choice of either sacrificing their personal integrity to support their leader’s adopted agenda, or standing for truth. Barbados was recently tested in this manner.
EXCHANGING TRUTH.
In an age where almost all white persons were: racists, white supremacists, and/or enslavers, Horatio Nelson was the rare anomaly. He went against the racist cultural norms of his time, and employed and promoted black persons the same as whites on his ships. He hated slavery – with a passion, and likely freed more slaved outside of North America than any other person during his lifetime.
Nelson demonstrated excellence in the pursuit of truth. Following his death, several statues of him, of varying quality, were erected. The statue of perhaps the finest quality, was erected in Barbados over 200 years ago.
THE BIG LIE.
Recently, some of our extreme radical activists wanted Nelson’s statue destroyed. To achieve their agenda, they promoted Nelson as a: racist, white supremacist, enslaver, and mass murderer of Barbadians – without evidence.
More contemporary books were likely written about Nelson than any other person. Those books were written, during the racist slavery era that he lived, by his: colleagues, enemies, and independent historians. Those books contained the good, the bad, and a lot of ugly about Nelson. But none of them accuse him of being a: racist, white supremacist, enslaver, or mass murderer of Barbadians. That is a recent invention.
DEFENDING TRUTH.
I wrote five evidence-based cited research-articles to investigate the truth. Our radical activists responded with racial slurs. They also ignored thousands of documents in the historical record, and point to a single unauthenticated letter, published in an obscure slavery-supporting newspaper, years after Nelson’s death, that did not justify their claims. Further, the likely forged letter is not part of the recipient’s formal collection of letters received.
I was asked why I was defending that white enslaver of our ancestors. I repeatedly explained that I was defending truth, not Nelson. I further explained that once we crossed the boundary of deliberately accepting lies over truth, just to support an agenda that we may support, that we would damn the next generation to a life of tyranny.
The credible historical record of Barbados contains persons who are provably: racist, white supremacist enslavers, and mass murderers of black Barbadians. Our extreme radical activists do not target them, for the apparent reason that it does not tempt Barbadians to exchange their birth-right for a lie.
FEELING THE PRESSURE.
Some of our activists are opposing the Government’s foreseen military-managed forced mandatory vaccination program. Others are opposing being forced into Republicanism. However, this is only the beginning. Despite being manipulated into opposing camps, every camp will eventually feel the pressure.
Barbadians should rightfully protest against the pressure. However, like Sampson not knowing that his hair was cut, our activists and their supporters seem oblivious to the fact that they have already given away their personal integrity – and have none left.
Grenville Phillips II is a Chartered Structural Engineer. He can be reached at NextParty246@gmail.com
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Good leaders inspire others to achieve beyond their imagination.
Back to Nelson again! Oh dear! I was struggling to see where this thing was going but now I see it was simply to return to an obsession
Nelson is the new ISO!
Bring back ISO!
Who accused Nelson of being an enslaver and mass murderer of Barbadians????
Never was taught that. Never read that anywhere. Never heard such an opinion expressed.
What I heard expressed is that he provided military support for the racist, white supremacist British Government which was wholly supportive of, gleefully participated in and benefitted greatly from our enslavement. So, if he accepted the status quo and did not advocate in any significant way for our freedom….
…..then, he could not be our hero!
We did not want a “symbol” of Britannia ruling the waves on a pedestal thrust in our faces.
Nelson represented British dominance.
Speaking of BIRTHRIGHTS… where was Grenville when Mia and the minister of foreign affairs took it upon their collective DISRESPECTFUL selves to believe they can steal the birthright of the African descended on the island and across the diaspora and push a bunch of minority criminals from Barbados and across the Caribbean in front of them to access what DOES NOT BELONG TO ANY OF THEM and to which NONE OF THEM ARE ENTITLE.D
oh…i get it, he only recognizes the slavehood birhtright embedded in the social fabric of slave society Barbados… and not the real one…yall have no shame…yall slaves are well marked, stamped and branded.
A long widened commentary full of blame and Shame
Xxxx
Yes Grenville We the people have a right to speak out and opposed
We the people are still feeling the long lasting effects of slavery
We the people are caught up into a debt trapped enforced upon us because of govt policies
We the people have stood by for years and watch how our birthright have been stolen from us right in front of our faces
We the people have no other choice but to be dependent on govt
After all what has govt given us for We to be dependent on ourselves ?
Again. A thing is not necessarily true or false it can be both true and false.
Grenville, like most people, are want to mix up truth with ideology.
For example there is no science to support his perception about religious truths yet he defends those known lies to the hilt.
He may not even be willing to concede that religion is merely an attempt to commodify spirituality.
That in itself represents a betrayal of what he deems to be an inborn right to be free from this concoction of man.
Moreover, this sibject has been the battlefield on which many forests have been surrendered, in the literature. Maybe a review of that may better prepare the writer for such an intervention.
Subject
Pacha…i seem to be the only one who can see clearly Mia and her criminal minority partner’s plans to hijack the birhtright of African descendants in Barbados and the diaspora for themselves…..the only one willing to STAND UP AND OPPOSE THESE CRIMINALS….
they can try again though cause i got a REAL BIG MOUTHPIECE REPRESENTING ON THE CONTINENT…every move they make, i will be right there waiting…
the CONTINENT was very specific, very empathic in CALLING for their DESCENDANT, their SURVIVORS, their INHERITORS OF THE CONTINENT……who are ALL BLACK/AFRICAN, they KNOW WHY they need us……
…..they mentioned NOTHING about Barbados and the regions’ criminal whites, criminal indians, criminal syrians……yet this joker is posting about some slave legacy that he sees as a birthright, which has NOTHING TO OFFER THE AFRICAN DESCENDED but more enslavement and poverty…..and not even addressing the fact that Black/Africans in Barbados and the diaspora HAVE A REAL BIRTHRIGHT…
the slave mind is a very dangerous weapon of Mutally Assured Destruction..
EMPHATIC in CALLING for their DESCENDANTS….
“He may not even be willing to concede that religion is merely an attempt to commodify spirituality.”
those types of degraded minds would ask ya…”what is that?”…because they simply DO NOT KNOW…
“Every human being, regardless of nationality or economic situation, has the same birth-right. It is their right to be true to themselves.”
Get it Right
never get your rights wrong
your rights are your rights
and rights are universal for all
they are intuitive and obvious
like spiritual laws
every youth is born more conscious than their parents
and their parents parents
and does not need anyone to tell them what is their purpose
or what is their rights
they should know this already when they are born
your DNA comes from the mixes down the line of your ancestral chain
although more may come from your mothers side
and from grand-parents more than parents
You have to fight for your rights
no one gives you your rights
or can take them away
truth and rights
human rights
equal rights
EXCHANGING TRUTH.
In an age where almost all white persons were: racists, white supremacists, and/or enslavers, Horatio Nelson was the rare anomaly.
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Slaves came from Africa already enslaved.
Quakers (white people) ultimately ended it.
@ David
You wrote:
“Good leaders inspire others to achieve beyond their imagination.”
Question: Do we have any such leaders in our country at this time ?
I say NO ! What say you my Brother?
No we donât.
“Slaves came from Africa already enslaved.
Quakers (white people) ultimately ended it”
There was no Africa and no Countries in Africa
The word Africa came into existence in the 17th Century
Alkebulan meaning the garden of Eden or the mother of mankind
was made up of tribes
“Africans” did not sell their children
Tribes sold other tribes / peoples children
Whites industrialised slavery and breeding of slaves
even sitting and watching them fucking to make sure they complied
from age of 14 mothering slaves bred up to 15 children
for 20 generations
your homework is to estimate how many slaves were brought in and were multiplied by breeding
Quakers (white people) ultimately ended it
the Quakers (white people) did not end slavery they just rebranded slavery and continued it with indentured slavery
and made a fortune for the change in status of the property that they owned
You cannot give colonial agents/slaves in the Caribbean control or authority over Black/African people, it never ends well and has to be removed.
https://fb.watch/7bJDl6qqYD/
POWs are not slaves.
Donna:
Historian Beckles publicly accused Nelson of being an enslaver and white supremacist. Historian Marshall publicly accused Nelson of being a racist mass-murderer of black Barbadians. Their accusations are documented.
I wrote 5 evidence-based research articles, well cited, to investigate their claims – and found them to be false.
Life of Contradiction
whites were / are racist AF
it was in their brainwashing
and embedded in their DNA
nestled deep within their structure
of their conscious subconscious and unconscious minds
when they were cast out of villages
and moved away from sunshine
and trod down barefoot from Caucasus mountains
and were suckled on the titties of wolves
History is ass backwards
Technically speaking
Mother Africa / Alkebulan is the first world
the cradle of creation
rich in resources
and people
that greedy old pirates robbed
Religions come from East as they are tuned into the spirit of God
World is Spinning Around / Upside Down
Some say the world is spinning around
I say the world is upside down
Black Ark Black Art
Joe Higgs is the man who gave Bob Marley singing lessons and teaching him how to sing by slowing down to pronounce his words more clearly so white people could understand what he was singing.
Lee Perry was the Wailers producer who gave reggae to the world as a gift.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CirliaxUXSY
Donna.. house negros in positions of authority and control, and take great pleasure in destroying black lives are not POWS, they are colonial agents/slaves, the slaves were allowed to control the slave system, do they look unhappy and like they are confined to you, they confine and restrict Black/African people generationally, and that’s only when they are not helping minority criminals rob them of land, estates and money etc…,,,……do they look like prisoners to you with their bloated asses and nasty, arrogant, boastful, sellout attitudes…
ya getting tied up
Pacha…have you seen this one yet? Van Sertima.
https://youtu.be/6C-kmwYyc-c?t=12
I’m the song that my enemies sing
So it better to be far away
Discomfort they bring
I remember what my father said
To keep a smile on my face
To catch flies don’t be in haste
Woah the look in my eyes
Sometimes take my enemies by surprise
But, it’s not every day the spirit of God strikes with man
Yet the bible says evil can never stand
Yet I’m the song my enemies sing
I’m bewildered all the time
Could I know just one thing
How long will my enemies shine
I’m the song that my enemy sings all the time
(I’m The) Song That My Enemy Sings
Grenville
You are a fucking liar.
First of all you are not a professional historian.
Secondly, only rassoul idiots will take your words or opinions above those who have spent their lives doing just that, being professional in their field.
Thirdly, has any ideas you’ve had or your socalled research been peer reviewed. And who are your peers, cunts like you?
Forthly, can you cite the sources informing your idiotic conclusion. References to original documents.
Fiftly, how many types of evidence did you find supportive of this attempt to allow the White man in you to have voice.
Sixthly, do you even know the differences between a professional historian or engineer and an amateur.
Finally, that last post of yours has removed all remaining doubt that you are mentally ill and must never get anywhere near political power.
Certainly, there are many basies on which both Marshall and Beckles can be critiqued but you lack the exposure to a sufficiency of intellectual rigour.
And now that we know you to be a certifiable cunt your wanderings will never again be read.
Pach:
Beckles’ and Marshall’s accusations were published in the newspapers – and in Beckles’ book. Anyone can read them.
My research, with citations to original documents, was published widely. Anyone could verify the sources and read it for themselves.
Marshall has provided no evidence, whatsoever, to his claims that Nelson is a mass-murderer of thousands of black Barbadians – despite repeated requests to do so. Perhaps you can persuade him to share the evidence with you.
People should provide evidence to support their claims. That evidence should be rigorously examined before reaching a conclusion. That is the path I follow.
Throwing around insults does not contribute anything to the examination of an issue. I am sure that you already know that – but you have your role to play.
“You are a fucking liar.
First of all you are not a professional historian.
Secondly, only rassoul idiots will take your words or opinions above those who have spent their lives doing just that, being professional in their field.”
from memory GPII did a google search and found something somebody else had written that was produced by the British / Nelson apologists propagandists such as the Nelson foundation
it is mind numbingly stupid how he reconciles his own backside with his left hand and his right hand putting his finger up his asshole and does not see the illogical madness in his methodologies when he starts crowing away
Grenville
Yours was the last word. This writer no longer considers you to be a sentient being and hereby unrecognize your right to exist. Like father, like son.
.. and the “article” he produced was a BU thread that David published for peer review by the BU family
.. he should put the index finger of his right hand in his right ear and say “red” backwards
555dubstreet
Thanks much for confirming our suspicions.
WURA,
That was meant for John.
What you are failing to grasp is – IT DOES NOT MATTER whether Nelson PERSONALLY was an enslaver or mass murderer of black Barbadians.
He was a representative of those who were. He made no effort to oppose the status quo.
THEREFORE, he could not be our hero.
Perhaps that is why they presented no evidence. None would have been necessary.
If I were to judge from your simple language style I would guess you are a rather literal reader who could easily miss such finer points.
I am having the same problem on another thread where somebody did not understand when told him that
Dr Fauci was not God, it was a cheeky reminder that he could be wrong and so we should plan for that eventuality. There was so much more that he couldn’t understand about what I wrote that I am convinced we speak different languages. And it was not the first time I have concluded such about that same person.
I would like to see the article and extract from the book. I do not trust your comprehension skills in matters of historical analysis.
But remember my main point which was and is – it does not matter with respect to his statue.
It has been put abroad the statue will be mounted at the Barbados Museum where it is being stored – this means it will be preserved for those interested in viewing it to satisfy their whatever desire.
Now hear this – the correct decision was made to remove it from Heroes Square in Bridgetown.
Why on earth would GP2 go down Nelson Street unless he is looking for the wrong attention.
It is doubtful that a slave owning society would allow the erection of a statue to one who was bitterly opposed to the structure of their society.
“That was meant for John”
thanks Donna, am missing a lot of posts these days, getting like Cuddear.
As i said, Grenville should be hogtied to nelson and floated out to sea, so many issues affecting BLACK people on the island, poverty, thefts of salaries, pensions and severance, myriad human rights violations and social degradation issues and the only thing he can go on and on about is a goddamn dead employee of the crown who did his job of keeping Africans subjugated so he could collect his salary…..as the subject of a now equally dead empire that Grenville has no power to revive…but wishes he could, told yall about the dangerous slave mind….as long as he stays in the west with that evil shit.
“First of all you are not a professional historian”
He thought he was a lawyer at the same level as Jeff too..
i can barely read and cite two legal lines, but he was ready to take on Jeff in legal arguments.
so unfortunate, being reported that someone bust the thing in St. Vincent head with a stone, the people did say they can’t take anymore….these people have been living under extreme brutality for decades, something had to give, you notice that the trash in the colonial parliaments in the Caribbean and their minions only mistreat and rob primarily Black/African people, their children and grandchildren, no one else…
they will tell you they have immunity, just like that vicious entity CXC…though it’s temporary and they will be around shortly to beg for votes..to upgrade to immunity again…to carry out the SAME CRIMES against the Black population again.
Q WHAT IS A PROFESSIONAL HISTORIAN?
Q HOW DOES SUCH A PERSON COME UP WITH HIS OPINIONS OR STORIES?
Q HOW DOES ANYONE BECOME A PROFESSIONAL HISTORIAN?
Q. DOES AN AMATEUR HISTORIAN HAVE ACCESS TO THE SAME SOURCES OF A PROFESSIONAL HISTORIAN?
Q HOW IS BECKLES OR MARSHALL MORE FACTUAL OR MORE ACCURATE THAN F A HOYOS OR SHERLOCK, OR RECORD, OR HALL AND OTHER ESTABLISHED HISTORIANS ?
I GOT TO ASK CAUSE I LOST THE SHINE I HAD AT AGE 18 OR 20. I DONT SHINE OR GLOW NO MORE.
WARU
RE He thought he was a lawyer at the same level as Jeff too..
IS IT NOT TRUE THAT MANY COME ON BU THINKING (WITH WHAT I CAN NOT SAY) THAT THEY ARE ALL KINDS OF THINGS………..AND AT the same level as WHOEVER ?
ONCE A BIG JACKASS CAME HERE TO TELL ME THAT A SUCROSE MOLECULE DERIVED FROM BEETS DIFFERS FROM THAT DERIVED FROM SUGAR CANE
OTHERS HAVE SOUGHT TO TEACH ME BIOCHEMISTRY, AND PHARMACOLOGY OF ALL THINGS.
https://barbadostoday.bb/2021/08/05/regional-st-vincent-prime-minister-hurt-during-protests-outside-parliament
there is video.
Same way he mishandles your precious Bible, he probably mishandles historical analysis.
GP2 seems one dimensional. Should stick to engineering.
Isn’t it magical how one expression of Trump support can change a moron into a genius and a cyberbully into a bodyguard!
Murdaaaaaah!
Uh-oh! You mean I wrote that long set of nonsense when all it took was what TheO said?????
I real shame.
Two really good jokes and now this. I shall retire.
Look into the mirror and you’ll see a “professional bible-reading cunt”. Well, a professional historian is the opposite of what you see. So is a professional engineer, a group of people from which the Barbados Association of Professional Engineers gets its name. What irony.
dangerous foreign criminals shamelessly calling Black/African people dangerous foreign criminals.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/jamaicans-who-came-to-britain-as-children-face-deportation-within-days/ar-AAMWrXi?ocid=msedgntp
i asked a few simple questions.
Can I get an intelligent answer?
I AM JUST SEEKING TO JOIN IN THE DISCUSSION, SINCE YOU NEVER KNOW HOW EXPRESSING A VIEW MAY MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
Q WHAT IS A PROFESSIONAL HISTORIAN?
Q HOW DOES SUCH A PERSON COME UP WITH HIS OPINIONS OR STORIES?
Q HOW DOES ANYONE BECOME A PROFESSIONAL HISTORIAN?
Q. DOES AN AMATEUR HISTORIAN HAVE ACCESS TO THE SAME SOURCES AS A PROFESSIONAL HISTORIAN?
Q HOW IS BECKLES OR MARSHALL MORE FACTUAL OR MORE ACCURATE THAN F A HOYOS OR SHERLOCK, OR RECORD, OR HALL OR AUGIER AND OTHER ESTABLISHED HISTORIANS ?
I GOT TO ASK CAUSE I LOST THE SHINE I HAD AT AGE 18 OR 20. I DONT SHINE OR GLOW NO MORE.
For clarity.
The research I did was original. The evidence in the historical record is easily available for anyone else to read and reach their own conclusions.
As explained, Nelson fought against the racist cultural norms of his day. He was likely the lone non-racist of his time. He demonstrated his opposition by freeing any enslaved that got to any of his ships. He also paid and promoted black persons the same as white persons. Why not read the evidence for yourselves before condemning him?
To use the standard that many are using to judge Nelson would result in many persons today being guilty of sex-slavery – since few actively oppose it. Clearly that is an unreasonable standard to use. However, Jesus warned that we would be judged with the same measure that we judged others. Why condemn yourselves?
no one cares about some 200 year old dead skeleton already turned to dust, if that is your fetish….that’s on you.
People care about OTHER vulnerable people and the THEFTS OF SALARIES, PENSIONS, SEVERANCE….from LIVING people…the CORRUPTION, the RACISM, the HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS against the majority, decades old and STILL ONGOING, THE DISCRIMINATION, the BILLIONS OF DOLLARS missing from the economy…the attempt to send CRIMINAL MINORITIES from Barbados and the Caribbean to steal our African birthright by the sellout nigas in the parliament…who think they can run their fintech scam of a digital currency and have only their wicked asses to back it with, insultingly believing that Nigerians are as docile and stupid as some that can be found on the island…,,they will learn that running scams on Africans is nowhere as easy as it is in Barbados and across the Caribbean, practicing running scams on the people for decades on the islands DOES NOT MAKE THEM EXPERTS..
not everyone is as shallow as YOU…people have real concerns about real social issues…
BEWARE…the dangerous slave mind..
Pacha…and he got the nerve to wonder…why can’t you see what am seeing…steuppps…like someone other than him and a pack of racists and their house negros gives a shit about dead ass nelson.
The violence he commits against the people daily don’t count….all i have mentioned above in Barbados IS social VIOLENCE…,,but lying lawyers will never see it as such…they believe they have a right because they have immunity, the people need to TAKE BACK IMMUNITY from these wild animals who believe with all their rotten, decayed core that Black people have no rights although international law says differently, but they all ignore international law,…
https://www.nationnews.com/2021/08/05/office-p-m-condemns-violence/
Millions missing from the economy but the head scan machine has not worked for a very long time, now he has to run to Barbados for a headscan, ….social violence….reminds me of Burnham with no oxygen available for critical care at the hospital….until he needed oxygen and there was none….Caribbean leaders are poison.
https://barbadostoday.bb/2021/08/06/head-scan-in-barbados-for-gonsalves-following-injury-in-protest/
It’s a scam to keep the slave society intact, just like “maloney is a criminal who should be in jail”, two years later..”we need maloney because he has money, he ain’t so bad”….wicked and lying…they had nearly 3 YEARS to draft a new constitution in time for November 2021..
“With a mere three months to go before Barbados is set to become a republic, members of a Government-appointed committee leading the transition are now divided over the precise way forward, Barbados TODAY has learned.
And it appears Prime Minister Mia Mottley’s decision to proceed with appointing a non-executive president, ending almost 400-year ties to the British Crown, with a promise to introduce a new constitution afterwards is not sitting well with prominent advisors to the process.”
Re: Black Bajan Fake Ass “Historians” sucking the White Man’s Dick like Bitches and Ho’s
Suckers got suckered into believing whites freed black slaves because they were righteous masters
but wait…
The British colonised Africa in about 1870. When they heard of all of Africa’s valuable natural resources such as gold, diamonds, silver, ivory, rubber, salt and more, they did not hesitate on conquering the land. African colonies and needed the requisite labor force to extract them and simultaneously build the colonial city around these industries. Because they viewed native bodies as degenerate and in need of taming, violence was necessary to create a submissive labourer Colonisers viewed this violence as necessary and good because it shaped the African into a productive worker. They had the simultaneous goals of utilising the raw labor and shaping the identity and character of the African. By beating into the African a docile nature, colonisers ultimately shaped and enforced the way Africans could move through colonial spaces. The African’s day-to-day life then became a show of submission done through exercises like public works projects and military conscription.
Pachamama aka Mother Earth nailed it in the comment below which is short and sweet and rings the vibration of truth loud and proud
“And now that we know you to be a certifiable cunt your wanderings will never again be read.”
Deadass
Deadass is slang for “seriously.” That is, no kidding, for real, we’re deadass not lying to you.
read it twice and keep your eyes on the corrupt government…
“The 10-member Republican Status Transition Advisory Committee (RSTAC), a sub-committee that is responsible for the legal aspects of the process and a blue-ribbon panel of three prominent Barbadians who had been invited by the main committee to add their expertise are all caught in a procedural dispute, sources have confirmed.
It is understood that the main bones of contention are the Government’s decision to transition to republican status first and amend the rest of the constitution afterwards and also a “rush” to have the new form of government in place by November 30, this year.
Some members are reportedly calling for a re-examination of the entire process that involves replacing Queen Elizabeth II as Head of State with a native president.
“There is no constitutional document. They have not yet signed off on a constitutional document. They can’t go ahead without having a constitutional change,” a source close to the process told Barbados TODAY.
“A number of people are concerned about the indecent haste at which they are proceeding without a proper legal foundation in place.”
Amazing how they jump to each other’s defense, when a gaggle of them starting in the parliament should be in handcuffs…that’s all Smith-Millar said in relation to the charges…..but Andrew knows that most of them don’t even get charged for their crimes…against the Black population, not when they have the whole bar association who got their backs….enabling and condoning.
https://barbadostoday.bb/2021/08/06/bar-association-president-chastised-for-criticizing-accused-attorney/
”
“I am very disappointed and unhappy to see a member of the legal profession – a former senior police officer and now attorneyat-law – charged with the matters that he has been. However, the matter is before the court and I have no further comment on that specific matter with Mr Bennett.
“Generally speaking, of course we are absolutely against the commission of crime by any person but most especially by attorneys-at-law who know the law and should know better,” Smith- Millar said.”
Just saw a document where Guyana appears to be planning to do the RIGHT THING, THE RIGHT WAY….cause they want no shit, but the bloated gadfly in St. Vincent was the test subject…let’s see who else wants to try the people’s patience..
I shall try one more time.
I am not expecting anyone to put up a statue of me. I am, in no way, shape or form, a hero. I have done some good stuff, helped out a few people, stood up for the rights of a few others but I do not deserve to be placed on a pedestal anywhere, far less Bridgetown. I could write you a very long list of people who are more deserving.
My judgment of Nelson only goes as far as whether or not he merits a statue.
I am quite willing to be judged as I have judged him.
The End!
@ WURA-War-on-U,
I do not believe for one minute that Saint Vincent does not have a functioning body scanner.
He is being treated in Barbados solely for his own personal safety. Apart from assassination I have never heard of such a brazen attack on a head of state. We should all condemn such an attack.
Covid-19 has exposed the weakness of Caribbean countries. Do our leaders have the stamina and the credibility to make a difference in the lives of their citizens? I believe not. It is inevitable that some will fall by the wayside.
It will be very interesting to see the length of time he decides to recuperate in Barbados.
“We should all condemn such an attack.”
Vincentians believe he deliberately provoked the situation, knowing how he has treated the people for YEARS and how they would react……the same dumb slaves keep reelecting him to the detriment of others…because he plays them like a violin…we have to wait and hear what he actually did, he is known to be very wicked….and slime like that, don’t maintain anything that Black populations need to survive, you get the same thing in Barbados, as long as it’s Black taxpayers paying the bill, it’s not appreciated….. they call it “mash up and buy back” they take care of nothing, maintain nothing, just waste taxpayer’s money and that is only what they don’t tief..
“To use the standard that many are using to judge Nelson would result in many persons today being guilty of sex-slavery – since few actively oppose it. Clearly that is an unreasonable standard to use. However, Jesus warned that we would be judged with the same measure that we judged others. Why condemn yourselves?”
when whites held blacks hands it was to put them into slavery
Donna:
Then we have reached some agreement. He does not merit a statue. There was no need to have one of him in Barbados.
Where we seem to disagree is the method or removing him. I think that inventing history to trash his reputation is not the way. I do not agree with that end-justifies-the-means approach.
Jesus said that satan is a liar and the father of lies. He also said that when satan lies, he speaks from his resources. I think that dishonesty, lies, and deception an unnecessary way of achieving agenda aims.
Jesus said that He is the Truth. Truth should matter – it does with me.
I never even heard or read of the “invented history”. Neither did anyone to whom I spoke. Yet we all wanted him down based on one established fact.
He was a symbol of British domination and he was not our hero.
Nelson does not need you to spend so much time on his defence.. You had your say. Obsession is futile. Plenty of living souls who need defending.
Donna:
The lion in Gun Hill was carved by British soldiers who were enforcing the same “British domination”. No one needs to dishonestly lie about anyone’s reputation, and deceive the public with that one. However, it does require people to be consistent and non-hypocritical.
Do you support the removal or destruction of that lion?
Oh my God! Is the lion portrayed as a hero of black Barbadians.
We are not interested in destroying all things the British built. Most of us have their blood in our veins. We are interested in removing the symbols of white supremacy which are part of a damaging and conflicting narrative told from the perspective of our oppressors.
We are trying to reframe our history from the perspective of the black majority.
The lion has no impact on that process.
As I said before, you miss the finer points of any argument.
This proves it.
The blogmaster ter wondered how Grenville was able to compare the carving of the lion at gun hill with a statue of Nelson positioned in Heroes Square Ain 2021. Moving on, this is tiring.
‘Do you support the removal or destruction of that lion?’
My group the Barbados Black Belly Sheep Association (BBSA) supports removing and replacement.
It is difficult to remain serious when issues are invented.
re Do you support the removal or destruction of that lion?
REMOVE NELSON
REMOVE THE QUEEN
REMOVE THE LION
REMOVE THE ANGLICAN CHURCH
REMOVE THE SCHOOL SYSTEM
REMOVE THE SPEAKING OF ENGLISH
REMOVE THE PLAYING OF CRICKET
REMOVE ANYTHING ENGLISH AND OF ENGLISH ORIGINS
REMOVE GP AND JOHN ONCE MORE TOO…………LOL MURDAAAH ROFLMAO
I FORGOT THIS…
REMOVE ALL WHITE FOLK FROM BARBADOS
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Donna and David:
That is very convenient for you. Nelson is only despised if you believe the lie of his accusers – who provide no credible evidence for their accusations.
The lion is clearly the symbol that should attract objections – which was provably constructed by military officers stationed in Barbados to directly maintain the empire. Unlike the Navy, which directly fought against external threats (France, Spain, etc), the military in Barbados was to assist with rebellions – like when they were called upon to quell the Bussa rebellion (no one called for the Navy then).
For the record. I am not advocating for the removal of the lion. I am simply pointing out the convenient hypocrisy of defending the lion while falsely accusing Nelson. What is consistent is that it requires persons to sacrifice truth for lies to do both.
@Grenville
Let us assume Admiral Nelson did no wrong and was sympathetic to the cause of Blacks, his statue still has no place in Heroes Square in 2021. Hope this clarifies it for you.
I won’t even try to unravel that convoluted mess.
You are hopeless!
@ Nextparty246 August 7, 2021 12:53 PM
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For the record. I am not advocating for the removal of the lion. I am simply pointing out the convenient hypocrisy of defending the lion while falsely accusing Nelson. What is consistent is that it requires persons to sacrifice truth for lies to do both. (Unquote).
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There is some merit to this aspect of your argument that Nelson was not the full-blown pro-slavery racist as he has been painted by the Bajan band of hypocrites. .
Who or what could have been more pro-slavery and racist than the Anglican Church in Barbados?
Has it apologized, as yet, to black Barbadians (the descendants of the victims) for the pivotal role it played in one of the worst crimes committed against humanity in the name of some god painted in the image of some European created god which you yourself have swallowed hook, line and sinker?
We submit that Lord Horatio Nelson was indeed a professional Naval officer of the highest standard since he recognized that some black sailors were just as talented as some of his ‘Limey’ white officers even if the blacks were employed initially in the capacity of cooks, sexual consorts or gun-powder monkeys.
The contradiction which lies to the heart of your argument- as “TheOGazerts” has pointed out in the most incisive manner- is why a white-dominated Bajan society of that time of endemic chattel slavery in Barbados would want to erect a statue to a man who, according to your argument, represented the antithesis of their pro-slavery values?
Instead of waging a futile war over Lord Nelson’s historical value to a modern Barbados-and which can only end in a mere Pyrrhic victory in the form of a white-painted lion at Gun Hill- why not consider the much underestimated and long overdue recognition of the role played by another seafarer aka merchant seaman a real Barbadian hero by the name of Milton King?
Why not recognize this man’s ultimate sacrifice in his heroic stance against apartheid in South Africa where white supremacy still lingered even 120 years after the abolition of slavery in the original colony of apartheid called Barbadoes?
The inferior minded might learn something about their real heritage and birthright..
https://youtu.be/GxUO5hKcz84?t=599
re Let us assume Admiral Nelson did no wrong and was sympathetic to the cause of Blacks, his statue still has no place in Heroes Square in 2021. Hope this clarifies it for you.
WHEN I WAS GROWING UP SO CALLED Heroes Square WAS CALLED TRAFALGAR SQUARE WAS IT NOT? SO APPARENTLY IT WAS ONCE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE Admiral Nelson SITUATED THERE THEN.
PERHAPS WE SHOULD REMOVE SOBERS FROM BEFORE THE OVAL AND RENAME THE OVAL WESTBURY CEMETRY ANNEXE. CAUSE CRICKET DEAD. MURDAAH
BARE MOCK SPORT IN DE RUM SHOP.
Heard about Uriah Butler as a small child growing up, no surprise they put the Black Slave police to murder other Black/Africans for standing up for their human rights of fighting oppression, hard work with no salaries, slavery and racism etc in 1937…
…won’t they be shocked to know that 84 YEARS later…the fight to end this evil in Black African lives is still ongoing with the negros who could not enter the parliament in 1937 and talk about they are elite and got pedigree are the vicious beasts now perpetrating the same crimes AGAINST THE DESCENDANTS of that uprising, with minority criminals descended from those in 1937 still instigating CRIMES against and TIEFING from the Black majority…..that’s the bajan way..
As a matter of fact there is still a highway in Trinidad dedicated to Uriah Butler…..
are the vicious beasts now perpetrating the same crimes AGAINST THE DESCENDANTS of that uprising, with minority criminals descended from those in 1937 and some brand new ones added…like racist sandy lane and other greedy hoteliers…still instigating CRIMES against and TIEFING from the Black majority..
Hope yall can see the pattern unless ya willing to allow it to happen AGAIN 84 years into the future….to your great, great granchildren…i know some dumbed down Black people won’t even care.
@Grenville Phillips “For example, a servant leader will aim to provide an economic environment where parents can EASILY care for their elderly parents.”
Ok smart guy.
Don’t tell us. Show us how this can EASILY be done.
I have done it, one elder disabled for almost ten years, another at the same time with a stroke with a partial disability for 7+ years.
I did it but it was NOT easy.
Truthfully it was damned DIFFICULT.
Show me where I went wrong and where I could have done it EASILY.
Enlighten the rest of the blog. Because as we Bajans say “wha int pass ya int catch ya yet” or something similar.
Enlighten all of us how the care of elders can EASILY be done.
P.S. Please note that I have 14+ years of increasingly complex elder care,
@Grenville Phillips “Parent-leaders will aim to force the elderly in institutions, where they can be efficiently attended to.”
So tell me where in the world leaders try to force the elders into institutions? Elder care is complex, time consuming and expensive, and EVERYBODY know that the cheapest, most efficient way to get it done is with the unpaid labor of daughters and grandaughters.
Notice that I did not mention sons and grandsons because the truth is that provide little hands-on care, and too often little or no money either.
@GP August 5, 2021 7:41 PM
Q WHAT IS A PROFESSIONAL HISTORIAN?
My question: What is a professional physician?
Q HOW DOES SUCH A PERSON COME UP WITH HIS OPINIONS OR STORIES?
My question: How does a professional physician come up with his opinions or stories?
Q HOW DOES ANYONE BECOME A PROFESSIONAL HISTORIAN?
My question: How does anyone become a professional physician?
Q. DOES AN AMATEUR HISTORIAN HAVE ACCESS TO THE SAME SOURCES OF A PROFESSIONAL HISTORIAN?
My question: Does an amateur physician have access to the same sources as a professional physician?
Q HOW IS BECKLES OR MARSHALL MORE FACTUAL OR MORE ACCURATE THAN F A HOYOS OR SHERLOCK, OR RECORD, OR HALL AND OTHER ESTABLISHED HISTORIANS
How are you more factual or more accurate that Dr. Fauci and the other brilliant established doctors and scientists of record at HHS and CDC?
I GOT TO ASK CAUSE I LOST THE SHINE I HAD AT AGE 18 OR 20. I DONT SHINE OR GLOW NO MORE.
I acknowledge that you have lost the shine you had at 18 or 20, that’s ok. I have lost mine too. It is called old age. [Oh! Lord. Don’t tell me that you remained at HC until you were 20???] I acknowledge and that you don’t shine nor glow no more as when you were awarded a Barbados Exhibition, while others earned Barbados scholarships.