Becoming Sane

I wrote this article one year ago on 20 January 2020. It is now applicable to other issues in Barbados. That is why, regardless of your position on: the vaccine, reparations, a republic, same sex marriage, Nelson, COVID protocols, reimbursing tourists, and any other issue, it is important to allow a discussion.
Trying to shut down discussions is not helpful to us as a nation.

Regards, Grenville

The main reason given for demolishing the structurally sound 6-storey old NIS building, is that it is not compatible with the “sacred ground” of the proposed Clement Payne park.

The Government did not properly maintain the building, and several workers got ill. We are told to believe that the building is a reminder of people getting ill, which is not compatible with what Clement Payne advocated.

We are told to believe that the building is beyond maintenance, having been abandoned for so long. It may be beyond maintenance, but it is clearly not beyond repair, and it is certainly very far away from needing to be demolished. But such thoughts are considered heretical.

To oppose the demolition is to be accused of being against workers’ right to a healthy work environment. To question why a building, with the most expensive foundation system in Barbados (piled), and no apparent structural cracks, should be demolished, is to attract the wrath of political operatives.

The public relations on this matter reminds me of George Orwell’s masterpiece, ‘1984’. It was written in 1949, and shows what happens to a society when the Government does not tolerate independent thought. I will extract part of it for your interest.

‘It is impossible to see reality except by looking through the eyes of the Party. That is the fact that you have got to relearn, Winston. It needs an act of self-destruction, an effort of the will. You must humble yourself before you can become sane.

‘He paused for a few moments, as though to allow what he had been saying to sink in.

‘Do you remember,’ he went on, ‘writing in your diary, “Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four”?”Yes,’ said Winston.

O’Brien held up his left hand, its back towards Winston, with the thumb hidden and the four fingers extended.

‘How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?”Four.”And if the party says that it is not four but five – then how many?

”Four.

‘The word ended in a gasp of pain.

The needle of the dial had shot up to fifty-five. The sweat had sprung out all over Winston’s body.

The air tore into his lungs and issued again in deep groans which even by clenching his teeth he could not stop. O’Brien watched him, the four fingers still extended.

He drew back the lever. This time the pain was only slightly eased.’How many fingers, Winston?

”Four! Four! What else can I say? Four!

‘The needle must have risen again, but he did not look at it. The heavy, stern face and the four fingers filled his vision. The fingers stood up before his eyes like pillars, enormous, blurry, and seeming to vibrate, but unmistakably four.

‘How many fingers, Winston?”Five! Five! Five!”No, Winston, that is no use. You are lying. You still think there are four. How many fingers, please?

”Four! five! Four!

Anything you like. Only stop it, stop the pain!

”You are a slow learner, Winston,’ said O’Brien gently.

‘How can I help it?’ he blubbered. ‘How can I help seeing what is in front of my eyes? Two and two are four.

”Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder. It is not easy to become sane.

”Again,’ said O’Brien.’How many fingers, Winston?

”Four. I suppose there are four. I would see five if I could. I am trying to see five.

”Which do you wish: to persuade me that you see five, or really to see them?

”Really to see them.

”Again,’ said O’Brien.Perhaps the needle was eighty–ninety.

‘How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?

”I don’t know. I don’t know. You will kill me if you do that again. Four, five, six–in all honesty I don’t know.

”Better,’ said O’Brien.

Fellow Barbadians, it is time to evaluate your progress. If you did not know your party’s position on the demolition of the old NIS building, would your response when questioned have been, “I do not know”?

If you know your party’s position, would you automatically agree with it? Do you enjoy when your party’s political operatives try to damage the reputations of those who do not similarly agree? If so, then you have been adequately trained to actively support a totalitarian state. Wise up.

Grenville Phillips II is a Chartered Structural Engineer and President of Solutions Barbados. He can be reached at NextParty246@gmail.com

128 comments

  • It’s not my call but DofBu could blacklist some like JK CC GP CA for persistent rightwing repetitive trolling as they just come to shit on BU with spin.

    Take a Moment to Pause

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  • We seem to be remember that Orwell was not particularly intrigued by the Party which positioned as if in opposition to the establishment, either.

    Substantively, and this is a matter on which we could rest on your expertise – the old NIS building was constructed around 1975 making it 45 years old. We accept that there are many older and maybe sicker buildings in Barbados. However, we have found that such structures tend to be not fit for purpose in a much wider number of ways, have outlived their purpose. For example, not being wheelchair accessible, and we could go on and on. In developed countries buildings this age are pulled all the time.

    Question – should there not be a point, a standard, by which we say what the lifecycle of a structure should be rather than making politics out of a strictly engineering matter?

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  • Critical Analyzer

    @555dubstreet January 21, 2021 6:46 AM

    So anybody daring to have a different view from your perfect god-like opinion should be ostracized, castrated and forever put in a hole.

    If you don’t see something wrong with your call blacklist in your statement “It’s not my call but DofBu could blacklist some like…”, you need to spend less time searching for and listening to all the songs you constantly posting and more time researching the rise of the various totalitarian regimes throughout history and note they all had certain precursors in common.

    I won’t give you the answer since you will call it lies so go research and teach yourself something useful for once instead of posting song half of which you probably don’t know the true origin.

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  • @ Pacha
    “In developed countries buildings this age are pulled all the time.”

    And therein lies the problem !

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  • @ William

    In some developed countries buildings last for hundreds of years. One of the key points in the slavery debates is the huge mansion and stately homes built by slaves or from the proceedings of slavery. We can’t have it both ways.
    The buildings destroyed after 30-40 years are usually local authority built homes and offices. What about Drax Hall or even parliament, the Cathedral?

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  • The main reason given for demolishing the structurally sound 6-storey old NIS building, is that it is not compatible with the “sacred ground” of the proposed Clement Payne park.

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    Clement Payne was a communist agitator sent from Trinidad to foment revolution in Barbados.

    In America, we watch their version unfold as “Like Saturn, the revolution devours its children”!!

    The military wing of the Democrat Party, ANTIFA/BLM has now turned on its masters.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9170237/Protesters-gather-damage-Democratic-headquarters-Oregon.html

    Biden doesn’t have much longer as the military wing of the party will need to be appeased.

    https://jvpalatine.com/why-revolutions-devour-their-own-children/

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  • Patch:

    Buildings can last for hundreds of years. But they are normally designed for 50 years before requiring major maintenance or refurbishment. We were not ready to even contemplate demolishing the building.

    Further, your attempt to link this to politics is why political operatives are the absolute worst of us. The national Engineering and Architectural associations were against it, and provided workable alternatives. You may remember that the Architects’ proposal was published in the media.

    Were the Architects making politics out of an Architectural issue? Please wise up.

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  • @ Hal
    When I say we are trapped by forces similar to slavery regardless of our mouthings that is exactly what I mean. A building that is forty five years old is extremely young.
    After all, we are not talking about a “ board house”. And even well maintained board houses last more than forty five years.
    But in developing countries…………..

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  • @Grenville

    Getting back to your substantive observation: put on your former hat as president of BAPE, are professional associations failing Barbados? Are their voices too silent about these kinds of issues? Why do we educate our professional class to cower at times when there is opportunity to make a difference on behalf of the taxpayers?

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  • Quaker John

    Plse sit down and take notes. Clement Payne was the Trinidad-born son of a Barbadian mother. Does that qualify him to be Barbadian?
    Previously you said he was illegally deported as he was a British citizen. Do the overseas-born children of Barbadians qualify as Barbadians?

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  • @ David
    The only lobbyists these governments take seriously are the business people / hoteliers. You are trying to pass the buck. We are standing by watching politicians destroy the country making all kinds of ignorant decisions and then getting arrogant and pissed off when they are asked simple straight forward questions.
    When the public was informed that the building in question was being destroyed, brass tacks was hot with all kinds of citizens saying the decision was hasty and needed to be revisited.

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  • @William

    How is holding professional bodies to a higher account especially given the technical bent that should have informed the decision to demolish the NIS building? By BAPE and other professional outfits being strident it helps to validate the voice from general public.

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  • If the building was sound it should not have been demolished but remodelled and renovated and put to a use that Clement Payne would have approved. There could also have been a miniature display at the entrance of the building depicting the events at Golden Square and a visual presentation of what these events precipitatated. The building could have become a constant reminder of what it takes to move the cause of the masses forward.

    But its environs need to be cleaned up and maintained. The people in that area need a lift. And another plot could have been acquired for a green space.

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  • Grenville
    Skinner

    We defer to your judgements

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  • @ Donna
    We are all into Monday morning quarter backing because we have allowed 99% of how we view things to be flavored by silly party politics.
    In this morning’s papers, we have nurses who are using masks a whole week rather than the daily change required.
    Less than three years ago, then Minister of Finance kept asking : Where are we going to get the money from?
    In today’s papers our PM / MOF is asking the same question: Where are we going to get the money from?
    We are going around in circles. And public discourse is now after the fact because every issue is in a political slant. Once my party do it it’s fine. The other party do it – all hell break loose.
    One step forward two steps backward.

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  • @ David
    Name three instances where any government has changed something it thought politically convenient because the professional body thought it unwise.
    Even when they pretend to be listening the government seeks to politicize the outcome and embarks on divide and rule tactics. The current confusion with the teacher unions and the minister of education re COVID is a case in point.
    In this mornings papers I read the prime minister referring to the nurses issues with hazard pay by saying that the NUPW is using it in the battle for who wants to be general Secretary.
    Even journalists are now realizing that all the political talk about transparency and open governance is only for a time.

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  • Clement Payne was a communist agitator sent from Trinidad to foment revolution in Barbados.

    In America, we watch their version unfold as “Like Saturn, the revolution devours its children”!!

    The military wing of the Democrat Party, ANTIFA/BLM has now turned on its masters.

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    @ John

    WHY ARE LYING AND TWISTING THE TRUTH. YOU SOUND IDENTICAL TO THE MIA AND BLP SUPPORTERS WHO ARE ON BU FREQUENTLY DEFENDING EVEN IF MEANS TELLING LIES AND TRYING TO CONFUSE THE AVERAGE READER.

    THE PEOPLE YOU ARE MAKING REFERENCE TO ARE STUPID AND DUMB TRUMP FOLLOWERS AND NOT BLACK LIVES MATTER BLM AS YOU WOULD LIKE ALL TO BELIEVE.

    Protesters gather, damage Democratic headquarters in Oregon

    PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — A group of protesters carrying signs against President Joe Biden and police marched in Portland on Inauguration Day and damaged the headquarters of the Democratic Party of Oregon, police said.

    Some in the group of about 150 people smashed windows and spray-painted anarchist symbols at the political party building. Police said eight arrests were made in the area. Some demonstrators carried a sign reading, “We don’t want Biden, we want revenge!” in response to “police murders” and “imperialist wars.” Others carried a banner declaring “We Are Ungovernable.”

    Police said on Twitter that officers on bicycles had entered the crowd to contact someone with a weapon and to remove poles affixed to a banner that they thought could be used as a weapon.

    Police said the crowd swarmed the officers and threw objects at authorities, who used a smoke canister to get away.

    The group was one of several that gathered in the city on Inauguration Day, police said. A car caravan in the city celebrated the transition of presidential power and urged policy change, The Oregonian/OregonLive reported. Another group gathered around 5 p.m. in northeast Portland with speakers talking about police brutality.

    Portland has been the site of frequent protests, many involving violent clashes between officers and demonstrators, ever since the police killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis in May. Over the summer, there were demonstrations for more than 100 straight days.

    Mayor Ted Wheeler has decried what he described as a segment of violent agitators who detract from the message of police accountability and should be subject to more severe punishment.

    A group of about 100 people also marched in Seattle on Wednesday, where police said windows were broken at a federal courthouse and officers arrested three people.

    The crowd called for the abolition of Immigration and Customs Enforcement and, outside the federal immigration court, several people set fire to an American flag, The Seattle Times reported.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/protesters-gather-damage-democratic-headquarters-005147909.html

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  • @William

    You missed the substance of the point. A more strident voice from professional bodies lends currency to general opinion. We have the example of BAMP of recent and there was some professional input to the Cahill matter.

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  • @ Mr. Skinner

    If we’re thinking about honouring Clement Payne, wouldn’t it be a wonderful idea to do so, by providing opportunities for entrepreneurship and creating employment?

    As I mentioned in a previous contribution to this issue, if ‘government’ felt it was necessary to demolish the old NI building and the other buildings along the block, they should have built a multi-purpose market on that site, with a detailed design and precise descriptions of its various sections, thereby accommodating, (but not limited to):

    ….. fresh fruit and vegetable trading areas;
    ….. meat, fish poultry sales;
    ….. food and beverage stalls;
    ….. bars;
    ….. clothing sales;
    ….. household supplies;
    ….. barber shops & beauty salons;
    ….. office spaces for small businesses;
    ….. stalls for shoes, watch, computer repairs, etc.

    Also included therein, could be internal and external general circulation areas, with lobbies, seating facilities; public toilets and space for administration (of course, taking COVID-19 protocols into consideration).

    The site on which the new, but smaller Fairchild Street Market is currently being built, should have been used as parking facilities to accommodate vendors and customers.

    My ‘BU friend’ Enuff disagreed with me, since he supported ‘government’s’ decision to build a park.

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  • This is just to show yall how quickly fools turn on each other, ya can even call it a yardfowl rebellion…another valid reason to stay FAR AWAY FROM POLITICIANS..AND yardfowls, the twin wretched of the earth, even discoursing with them on a blog, might be too close, that’s how toxic they are….all of them….just wait until the snipers suffering from PTSD and other debilitating psychological illnesses realize how they’ve been had. Not one of the fools got a pardon…..but they are enemies you don’t want to have, so the Reps are now so screwed….in the eyes of the angry, they’re now the enemy.

    .shades of Patrick King…I knew it would take these at least a week for them to figure out how they were set up….unlike bajan yardfowls who are so dumb they go to their graves and never figure anything out….just as they deserve.

    “Far-right extremists are seething now that President Joe Biden has been successfully inaugurated as the 46th president of the United States.

    The Proud Boys, a violent extremist group composed of some of former President Donald Trump’s staunchest followers, now proclaims the twice-impeached ex-commander-in-chief will go down in history as “a total failure.”

    Enrique Tarrio, leader of the Proud Boys, stands with some of his fellow “Western chauvinists” during a protest last month in Washington, D.C. (Photo by Stephanie Keith/Getty Images)
    The New York Times is reporting that chatter on fringe social media sites like Gab and Telegram is dubbing Trump a “shill” and “extraordinarily weak.” Additionally, there are calls for supporters to stop attending his rallies or protests held in his name or by the Republican Party.

    “It really is important for us all to see how much Trump betrayed his supporters this week,” it reads. “We are nationalists 1st and always. Trump was just a man and as it turns out an extraordinarily weak one at the end.”

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  • @ Artax
    In my opinion, that entire area should be a public transportation hub and that would mean transforming the entire area of the market and the current bus stand. I don’t really understand what the plan is at this point. However to take prime city land and put down a few plants and benches is questionable.
    As for the building, I don’t comprehend why we would knock it down on the grounds that it was too costly to sanitize. That would have to be a lie.
    I would have thought that making the entire bottom floor a market and then renting the rest to small business people would have been a better project.
    I understand that all the plans made have very little parking space.
    As for Clement Payne, we can put him somewhere in the environs of the proposed development.

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  • @ William

    Do you remember the Bus Stand Cabinet?

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  • BAJE

    I just repeating what I heard Professor Woodville Marshall say in a presentation of a paper on Clement Payne at BWU HQ.

    I am saying there were not enough counter revolutionaries in Barbados back in the day to overcome the communist revolutionary threat to Barbados like there are in the US, … 75 million and growing.

    The communist revolution had a relatively easy passage in Barbados to the point where one of the instigators is now a National Hero who nobody knows anything about but who can cause millions of dollars in investment to be destroyed.

    The destruction of the NIS building is thus inexplicable logically, but easily explained in terms of past events.

    In America, there are enough counter revolutionaries to stymie the free path of the communist revolution so what we are seeing in Portland is frustration.

    Biden’s role was to get the corpse of the left over the finish line which he did.

    But there are too many factions who want too much and can’t get it so the revolution is turning in on itself and will devour its children.

    Biden is now of no use and is disposable.

    Notice there needs no longer to be the disguise and subterfuge of appearing as Trump supporters as they did at the Capitol.

    “We don’t want Biden, we want REVENGE”.

    That’s their frustrated and confused motto.

    Just a matter of time.

    There is a good chance the Democrat Party may tear itself to pieces.

    Anyone know if Marjorie Taylor Greene launched her articles of impeachment against Biden?

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  • William Skinner January 21, 2021 11:38 AM #: “I would have thought that making the entire bottom floor a market and then renting the rest to small business people would have been a better project.”

    @ Mr. Skinner

    That’s exactly what I’m proposing, as outlined in my January 21, 2021 11:22 AM contribution.

    I believe the area designed to transport is adequate enough to accommodate TB buses and the private owned PSVs. What is sadly lacking in Bridgetown is parking space. Hence, the reason why I’m suggesting the site of the new Fairchild Market could have been used as car park facilities for vendors and customers.

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  • BAJEJanuary 21, 2021 10:52 AM

    You should have realised by now that John the Braptist lives in an alternate reality. Sad really, but clearly has issues.

    David,

    I am not sure that the BAPE could have done much per se. Either it was sound or unsound. Have we seen the report? Nope.

    Per Grenville, we should have asked for it, if we follow the tone of his argument. I do agree, if it was sound and the demolition was purely a policy decision, than maybe BAPE could have offered alternatives to make it work for the 21st century.

    Grenville talks about opposing views being heretical. Is it that, or is it that those alternate views are either considered and rejected, which is fine, or even just ignored? There is a difference.

    I do agree that discussion should be wholesome and under some governments there has been scant regard paid to delivery of information and reasons for decisions made, thus respect for the populace.

    That is worth addressing. Yes, historically it was tied up in this B and D thing. But I do know those who say that if you talk too much, it is hard to get by, whether private or public sector. People are afraid of victimisation, this has been going on long before.

    However, this is not the sole remit of Barbados. Look at St.Vincent, Antigua, it is well known that their politics are very polarised.

    Grenville has a point, but possibly not quite in the way that he has imagined. The issue is deeper.

    Just for the record, on the side issue, because that it is what it is, of the building, I actually agreed with the demolition.

    However, my view is tied up with a view on the Bridgetown development as a whole.

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  • JohnJanuary 21, 2021 11:52 AM“We don’t want Biden, we want REVENGE”.

    A bunch of utter rubbish and referencing a very small group of Trumpettes.

    The election is over, get over it and stop bringing it into every discussion.

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  • @Crusoe

    We can beg to differ. Public opinion can be given weight if our professional class step up. A professional class who are intimidated or hamstrung by their middleclass and salaried status.

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  • Can we desist from Trump talk on this blog? Is it even possible?

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  • Where is @CCC?

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  • “As for the building, I don’t comprehend why we would knock it down on the grounds that it was too costly to sanitize. That would have to be a lie”

    everyone knew they were lying and that the building was structrually sound, it’s their laziness and perference to pocket money that should be earmarked for maintainence got them scrambling now…..just look at the dilapidated state of the island.

    someone said they were in the Paradise area recently and shocked at the neglect between them and Bich Stewart and/or Stuart, no difference, caused to that particular area…..they were even more shocked to see that the neglect extended to the whole island..

    all except for where the 1 billion dollars in VAT stolen from the people and the at least additional 5 billion dollars unaccounted for…..disappeared to…then the 3rd degree burnt fowls would want to jump out talking shite, they are the ones who should starve.

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  • John…the post was not an invitation for you to bring ya blighted opinion into it, i was showing the changing moods between dirty politicians and even dirtier yardfowls..

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  • Black Lives Matter is apolitical and take support from those who agree with their mission.
    Police violence with extreme prejudice happened under Obama’s term and Trump openly supported racist Police.
    BLM went quiet but George Floyd’s death brought out empowered protests worldwide.
    Idiots like John supported Police and went round the houses looking for excuses and arguments.
    Hal has been schooled already about how wrong he is about trope Dems are to blame for mass incarceration of blacks / 3 strikes laws etc.
    Lawson is still running with the trope Republicans led the abolition of slavery and MLK’s civil rights movements.
    Shit happens whoever is in power and there are more nuances in interpreting history than linking it to incumbent power.

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  • FOR THOSE OF YOU IDIOTS LIVING ON THE 2 x 3 ISLAND NEEDING A DOSE OF REALITY

    BESIDES BEGINNING AND BORROWING THE OTHER VARIABLES ARE INCOMPETENCE AND STEALING FROM TAXPAYERS BOTH DLP AND BLP.

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    #BTEditorial – Is our mirror image to be forever third world?

    It therefore begs the question, why in the year of our Lord 2021 are regional leaders appearing like beggars and individuals of straw on national televisions discussing the arrival of vaccines from outside this region? Why isn’t Barbados or Jamaica or Trinidad and Tobago or Guyana producing vaccines for our people? Are we so mired in a third world mentality that we automatically look outward for a solution to this problem because it is beyond us? With the exception of Cuba which has always shown an inclination towards giving true meaning to its independence in all spheres, are the rest of us in the region satisfied with the mirror age of an outstretched cap in hand?

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2021/01/21/bteditorial-is-our-mirror-image-to-be-forever-third-world/

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  • @ David
    I may or may not. I am not an Atlantan/ Georgian. I am a RealBajan.😊

    @ Hal
    Yes I remember , I was often a very keen observer. Great times.

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  • BESIDES BEGGING

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  • @ William

    I ask the question because right across from the Bus Stand Cabinet, on the sport where the NIS was built, was a tourist-centred first-floor nightclub/bar, another shop was below.
    It used to be a target for Cabinet venom (as the young, scantily dressed girls walked in) and among those men (they were all males), there were some well-known people. They had some of the most intelligent discussions in the island and people used to rush to attend the debates. Better than parliament..
    More important, I am trying to remember what else occupied the spot; my memory seems to be telling me there was a warehouse, but I am not sure. The NIS was built after my time, but what excuse/reason was given for the demolition?
    I am also trying to remember what was on the spot where the bus stand and market are. Sometime in 2009 I was told by a senior politician that there was a development plan for that area. Eleven years later nothing has happened.
    By the way, why is Nelson Street not a one-way street? What about Palmetto Square? The real issue is that we do not need grandiose development plans, but sensible developments at reasonable cost, while maintaining our unique architectural look.

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  • @William

    Good for you!

    #RealBajan

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  • Simple answer…they don’t want to come together, they agree on nothing, are dumb as rocks and everybody is a stink old obese fish in a tiny pond….unless they drop those borders and shed their trifling petty mindedness and snake skin, combine their resources and BUILD FROM THE GROUND UP and not from the TOP DOWN as the greedy and backward always try to do AND ALWAYS FALL ON THEIR ASSES, because they never learn, FAILURES NEVER DO, that’s where they will stay…beggars and thieves.

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  • Q. So how do you get people to become sane?

    A. By applying pressure!!

    As powerful as social media might appear, it really isn’t!!

    There are always bigger maguffies!!

    A thought for Grenville.

    Which lending agency lent the Barbados Government the funds to build the NIS building?

    Now, ask them what their view is on the demolition and use the logic you have brought here to show them why it was a bad idea!!

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  • … then let nature take its course!!

    Remember, there are other lending agencies.

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  • Make sure these are educated as well

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  • The anodyne!

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  • I, Enuff, support the demolition of the building and its replacement with a park. That building as Pachamama said lacked wheelchair access; it was also inelegant and bulky in appearance and provided no street activation or animation. Not to mention sick. I hope the landscape architects do a fantastic job, making sure inclusive access is a fundamental component of the design approach in pavement materials, gradients, benches etc.

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  • Hi David:

    Both the Engineering and Architectural professional associations noted their objection. The BIA actually developed a plan to keep it. It was sent to the Government, and when the decision was announced, it was published in the Newspapers (Nation 10 Jan 2020, pages 16 & 17).

    Starcom invited BAPE, the BIA and me to the Brass Tacks studio broadcast to discuss the planned demolition. However, despite the strident opposition, it was demolished.

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  • @ Enuff January 21, 2021 6:11 PM
    “I, Enuff, support the demolition of the building and its replacement with a park. That building as Pachamama said lacked wheelchair access; it was also inelegant and bulky in appearance and provided no street activation or animation. Not to mention sick. I hope the landscape architects do a fantastic job, making sure inclusive access is a fundamental component of the design approach in pavement materials, gradients, benches etc.”
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Good for you, “Enuff”! That’s what you call a show of completely blind loyalty to a cause of repayment for election campaign finances

    As the “expert” guru in all matters of the Town and Country Planning’ nature what, then, would you propose should be done with the ‘abandoned’ Treasury building which is just about 300 metres away?

    Since it ‘was’ faced with the same portfolio of sicknesses (and could be ‘older’ than the now demolished NIS building which was opened by Q E 2 in 1977) should it suffer the same fatality or be turned into a multi-million hotel to make Bridgetown the hub of tourism of a future Barbadoes to rival your favourite imaginary erection still awaiting its Cialis called money?

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  • “………NIS building which was opened by Q E 2 in 1977)……”

    @ Miller

    There’s a plaque affixed to the old National Insurance building, which clearly states, “This building was officially opened by Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II on 20th February 1975.”

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  • @ Enuff
    Can buildings be retrofitted to have wheel chair access? By your reckoning, several buildings in Bridgetown should be knocked down.
    How many schools don’t have wheel chair access?
    How many streets in our capital city are wheel chair friendly?
    Why don’t we knock down all the sick schools ?
    Why don’t we knock down Parliament?
    Have you heard when Parliament will be reopened.
    Please tell us what is the architectural equivalent of a “ chubby” building and tell us how the building in question fits that description.

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  • @ Enuff
    Sorry not chubby “ bulky” building.

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  • @ Hal
    There was a well appointed rum shop. There might have been a very small structure or two. There was some retail activity in what will be considered the back of the building.
    In terms of the bus stand and market, when Vic Johnson (BLP) was Minister of Transport, the bus terminal was rebuilt and was quite excellent.
    The market, I am told , there is some activity out there with which I am unfamiliar.
    That entire area of Bay Street, Nelson Street and Wellington Street did have some excellent buildings , houses and business places. Nelson Street was only not about prostitution. It was a great place to hang out, especially on Friday evenings.
    The country is losing its traditional architectural character. We kind of threw out the baby with the bath water. Others are building back we are tearing down and abandoning.

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  • FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
    Orthomolecular Medicine News Service, January 20, 2021

    The Treatment of Infectious Disease Using Vitamin C and other Nutrients
    by Margot DesBois

    (OMNS Jan 20, 2021) In the current fight against COVID-19, we can learn from the effective and safe orthomolecular viral treatments pioneered by a handful of discerning doctors in the twentieth century. For decades, copious clinical evidence and research has demonstrated that optimal doses of vitamin and mineral supplements can prevent, treat, and cure infectious diseases that afflict vast numbers of people today.

    Vitamin C (ascorbic acid or ascorbate) is necessary for proper immune system functioning. Anascorbemia, in which levels of the vitamin are inadequate, predisposes one to infection. [1] Ascorbic acid stimulates both the production and phagocytic ability of neutrophils, phagocytes, and lymphocytes. [2] Leukocytes use ascorbic acid to generate the hydrogen peroxide breakdown products that destroy microbial pathogens. [1] Stress on the body, such as from pathogenic load, causes it to expend vitamin C at a higher rate, lowering available amounts unless replenished through increased supplementation. Ascorbic acid is a necessary co-factor in the synthesis of collagen, which is the most abundant protein in the body and is essential for the strength of all organs, including arteries, lungs, bones, and skin. [2-4]

    Individuals with a higher intake of vitamin C produce more antibodies (IgG and IgM), as demonstrated in a 1977 study that isolated human subjects from nearly all sources of new infection and supplemented them with different amounts of this vitamin. [5] In guinea pigs, vitamin C supplementation also increases the amount of C1 esterase, the first component of the immune complement system. [3] Low vitamin C levels heighten skin graft tolerance in guinea pigs, presumably by lowering circulating, active lymphocyte levels. [5] In the 1970s, Dr. Yonemoto’s team studied five healthy human adults and found that supplementing with 5 g of vitamin C for a few days doubled new lymphocyte formation, and intake of 10 g and 18 g tripled and quadrupled the control rate, respectively. [5,6] The manufacture of some immune-regulating substances, such as prostaglandin E1, require several dietary micronutrients, including vitamin C. [5] Thus, ascorbic acid promotes parts of the inflammatory response, but it also protects against sepsis by strengthening vascular structure and regulating histamine release and breakdown and normal thrombosis. [1-8]

    Supplementation with high levels of vitamin C during a viral illness not only treats the acute infection, but it also helps prevent secondary infections that may arise within a vitamin-depleted environment. [2] Investigators such as Irwin Stone, Linus Pauling, and Thomas Levy have provided copious evidence that vitamin C acts as a potent antiviral and antibacterial substance at gram level doses. [8-10] The vitamin inactivates viruses both in vitro and in vivo, possibly through the generation of free radicals and/or the “Fenton” reaction. [1,3,11] In a 450-page volume, Dr. Thomas Levy assembled reports on high dose vitamin C treating and curing infectious diseases including polio, hepatitis, measles, mumps, viral encephalitis, herpes, influenza, tetanus, streptococcus, and staphylococcus, and significantly improving such formidable diseases as AIDS, malaria, and tuberculosis. [10]

    Continued here: http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v17n04.shtml

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  • @ Mr. Skinner

    The Nelson Street of this era can only be considered as ‘the slums,’……… another part of Bridgetown that’s ‘derelict and dying.’ Old, dilapidated or abandoned buildings can now be found on both sides of ‘the main’ street. Many of the remaining shops are now operated by Guyanese and Jamaicans.

    The building in the below photograph with the white roof, was refurbished/restored a few years ago, but, has unfortunately remained unoccupied since then.

    For some reason, ‘government’ has decided to build a large park, behind which is located an equally large slum area. If the Hyatt is built and the Empire Theatre refurbished, then some consideration should be given to the revitalization of Nelson Street and included in the redevelopment plans for that area of Bridgetown.

    Additionally, I agree with your comment, “The country is losing its traditional architectural character.” This is one of our unique characteristics that should be preserved. If you’ve ever visited Saba or St. Eustatius, for example, you’ll immediately notice those islands have preserved their Dutch “architectural character,” which is also a tourist attraction.

    I’m reminded of a conversation with a friend of mine a few months ago. I mentioned to her remembering my great-grandmother and great-grandfather had banana plants; sour sop, guava, paw paw, mango, breadfruit, plum, pear, lime and golden apple trees, as well as a ‘kitchen garden’ on their land. Sunday mornings would find people going there to buy lettuce.

    Nowadays, people’s homes are surrounded by lawn grass, concrete or asphalt.

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  • @ William

    You are right. Behind what was the NIS building were a lot of small craftspeople, fruit sellers, etc. It was busy and lots of people made a living in that district.
    Streets such as Wellington Street and King William Street had a solid middle class community, many of them active in Bethel or the Cathedral. My paternal grandparents were very active at Bethel.
    As to the bus stand, in the early 1960s Barbados had a public transport system that was world class, genuinely so. It was one of the bragging rights for us little islanders settled in the UK. Fairchild Street market, as it was known, was built to bring order to the street vendors.
    I have told you before, in those days Modern boys used to turn down their socks and behave badly and we got the blame.
    On a serious note, all that area should have been bulldozed since 2008 if not earlier, but certainly since May 2018, as a massive infrastructural programme at the heart of the development of a 24-hour leisure economy.
    Tourists visit Barbados not to go to bed at 10pm, they want to be out and about all day and all night. It is a failure of vision.
    Did you see Ronnie Yearwood’s Barrow Memorial lecture last night? Bright, perceptive young men and women like Ronnie who choose to return to Barbados are often left under-employed, even if they get satisfaction from what they do.
    A developing nation needs all its talents; with respect, anyone can teach at a university, but it takes a bit more to propel a nation in to the future.

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  • RE: CONTROL

    How you move matters.

    Today’s central theme is not just designed to guide breath control, but to also roll out the red carpet for you to expand your mind and your relationship to the mantra Find What Feels Good.

    Think of not only WHAT we are doing, but HOW you are doing it.

    What is it like to focus not just on the what, but even more on the how?

    Quality control.

    The same way that you have to bring the breath, you have to bring the awareness of how you are doing something. You get to design how many layers, you get to pay attention to the details… or not.

    You get to decide the flavour.

    How you move matters. The art of quality control. Both on and off the mat.

    Hey yo my quality control, captivates your party patrol

    Your mind, body, and soul

    For whom the bell tolls, let the rhythm explode

    Big, bad, and bold B-boys of old

    Many styles we hold, let the story be told

    Whether platinum or gold, we use breath control

    So let the beat unfold, intro on drum roll…

    JURASSIC 5

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  • @David

    Your missing the point, a FAILED STATE is a FAILED STATE and all the trappings therein included, ie: professional organizations. Still the country does not have a Building OR Electrical Code passed into LAW.

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  • @ Hal
    Extremely insightful post. That entire area abounded with tailors. Just on the outskirts , is a very quaint little village called Dunlow Lane, it is anchored by one of the oldest rum shops on its entry.
    Anybody who believes that tourist coming to an island, would be impressed with some thing dubbed a “ hotel corridor” knows nothing about how to market an island.
    Our three major selling points remain: climate, our personality and quaintness.
    Once there are shifts in any of the three ,the product is damaged.
    It is one thing to shout one is a Barbadian but it’s another thing to have a grasp of what really is the profile of our people and our country.
    We lack leadership and vision. It is there for all to see. There is something called critical analysis and then there is criticizing. Anybody who does not understand the difference should stay away from public discourse in any form or fashion.
    Excellent post my Comrade.

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  • @ William

    Thanks. The issue comes back to one we have played in a negative way on BU on numerous occasions. I have said about UK tourists in relation to Oistin’s that they do not want anything fancy. That is not the British way.
    I know this from living, working, socialising with them for over half a century. But, the decision-makers at home think they know best, they think they know what the UK tourists want and the result is dreadful decision-making.
    I have mentioned this in relation to restaurants; people do not come from Europe to dine in fine restaurants, or to attend classical art museums, or listen to European art music. They travel to Barbados to enjoy BARBADOS.
    The real problem is that they do not want to consult, they know best, when brains were being distributed they were the only ones to get a share, they were first in the line. To consult suggests to them that they have lost control.
    In congratulating Joe Biden, Bush 43 said something I used to tell my staff. If you are a successful president it means the US will be successful and if the US is successful, then we all are successful.
    In my case I always said if our paper won awards it mean I was an award-winning editor, that we all worked for an award-winning newspaper, that we were all award-winners. That is what team work is about. Lesson 101 at business school.
    @William, they are contemptible little midgets and I will have nothing to do with them. They prefer to destroy a nation in order to massage their egos.
    Look what they did to @PLT’s visas idea. He should have been called in as a consultant, instead they tried to s steal the idea. That is the Bajan Condition.

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  • @ Hal
    Well, @ PLT said he doesn’t care about that so I figure to leave that alone. There are certain allegiances that do not apply to The Ivy or Brittons Hill.
    BTW I did not get a chance to listen to Ronnie Yearwood’s lecture but I have been told it was very thought provoking by several people.

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  • Hal AustinJanuary 22, 2021 5:14 AM

    @ William

    You are right. Behind what was the NIS building were a lot of small craftspeople, fruit sellers, etc. It was busy and lots of people made a living in that district.
    Streets such as Wellington Street and King William Street had a solid middle class community, many of them active in Bethel or the Cathedral.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    St. Ambrose and St. Paul as well … low church and I believe high church but I never went there.

    Grew up at St. Ambrose.

    Had family who lived in the area in the 19th and early 20th century and my mother had lots of friends there as well from St. Ambrose.

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  • @ William

    I am sure there will be a transcript. As to @PLT, acknowledgement is no longer in his hands, it is a matter of principle, the bird has flown and sends a message to those of us who will like to contribute to an improvement in life chances for ordinary Barbadians.

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  • Hal AustinJanuary 22, 2021 7:52 AM

    @ William

    In congratulating Joe Biden, Bush 43 said something I used to tell my staff. If you are a successful president it means the US will be successful and if the US is successful, then we all are successful.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Articles of impeachment were filed in the house yesterday on Joe Biden, first day on the job.

    He may or may not be around much longer.

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  • @ Quaker John

    My father went to St Ambrose school, just behind the general hospital. In those days teachers marked children’s exercise books with red ink pens (they cannot do so in the UK anymore).
    He kept all his school books until just before he died.

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  • Invariably a school went with a church.

    Most children attending one would have attended the other.

    https://www.barbadospocketguide.com/barbados-attractions/churches/anglican/st-ambrose-church.html

    Materials, land and money were mostly donated by those who could afford it as education was viewed as the sine qua non for emancipation.

    That’s probably the reason for our love affair with education.

    The Church ran education until it was disestablished and the GOB took over.

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  • And it is that quaintness that made me love Barbados. We need to keep that and properly maintain it.

    We need to be Barbados.

    If there is any Bajan Condition it is that we don’t value what we are enough or what we have.

    Mauby became my favourite drink and still is. My son also loves it.

    Why can’t we just be us?

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  • We have upscale dining because it supports the international business sector. We have Oistins, Six Mens, Martins Bay, Lemon Arbor, hundreds of backyard and roadside dining to cater to the street food people. Is it perfect, no.

    Next!

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  • Poor delusional John Knox, more delusional than many Q Anon believers who have flown the cuckoo clock!

    Time’s up! Tweety Bird has lost his tweet!

    The show is over.

    That’s all folks!

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  • @Quaker John

    You are right. Barbados started its steady decline when this gang of lawyers took control of our politics. Church schools had discipline and order and teachers immorally failed to teach children in formal classes, then offered their parents private lessons (tutorials). That should be a criminal offence, misbehaviour in public office.

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  • Here is an interesting ting cut and pasted from the world wide web
    [edited to jolly old British English spelling]

    “Paradigms

    Paradigms are a set of assumptions, concepts, values, and practices that constitutes a way of viewing reality. They are our core beliefs, our mental filter through which we view the world and make meaning of our experience. They are the culmination of our nature and nurture – they make up the sum total of who we are today. Paradigms are our map of reality – we do not see the world as it is, we see it as defined by our paradigms.

    If a person is trying to find his way around New York, with a map of Detroit, determination, persistence, and discipline will not assist him. Even strategic thinking and a keen sense of judgment will not aid his endeavours. His increased efforts will only result in more frustration and anxiety.

    Breaking through the pain to a lasting solution will require an understanding of the fundamental problems causing the pain. Since our problem lies in behaviour, that flows out of an incomplete or deeply flawed paradigm of human nature, the solution will require a fundamental break with old ways of thinking.

    At one time or another, we all wrestle with the question, “what is life about?”. Having no clear answer, and not believing an answer exists – we define our lives and our reality, based on our subjective core beliefs that make up our paradigm.

    There are some people that believe life is a deck of cards. That we are just pawns in a world that lacks rhyme or reason. Unable to shape our destiny we become cynical, bitter, and dissatisfied. This mindset of feeling negative, victimised and hopeless, is called the ‘FEAR PARADIGM’.

    To others, life is a game. To them, the main thing is to have fun. Always looking for a new form of entertainment – from movies, sports, and vacations to the latest electronic gadgets, there is a myriad of distractions guaranteed to numb the heart and mind. This mindset, where distractions become necessities, is called the ‘PLEASURE PARADIGM’.

    Then there are others that experience life as a treadmill. To these people, life is about burden and responsibility. Lacking a high level of self-esteem, these people are always looking to conform to other people’s expectations. Life becomes dull, boring, and lifeless, as routine occupies centre stage. This mindset, where we submit to rules, play it safe, and life lacks spirit, is called the ‘DUTY PARADIGM’.

    Others believe that life is a marathon. To these people, the only thing that counts is coming in first. These people pursue success at all costs. Characterised by discipline, hard work, and goal-directed activities, these people keep running, content to crush all those who stand in their way or neglecting those that need them most, all the while feeling justified because life is a marathon. This mindset, where life is good when we perform well, is called the ‘ACHIEVEMENT PARADIGM’.

    Once in a while, life gives us a break from our chosen metaphor. It is during these quiet moments, that we sense a void in our lives – that something is missing, even though we don’t quite know what it is. We feel lonely, restless, and confused. Not knowing what to do or where to turn, we immerse ourselves back into our chosen metaphor, hoping it will provide us with the relief we so desperately seek. Instead of embracing this emptiness and using it as a springboard to find truth and inner meaning, we cover it up with our favourite metaphor as life passes us by.

    From the Torah’s perspective, life is not about what we amass, but what we give; it is not having more, but being more; for in the end our lives we are judged not by the businesses, houses, and portfolios that we built, but by the lives we touched. Once this realisation becomes part of our psyches, our entire attitude towards life will be altered. Instead of being consumed by competitiveness, serenity will set in, a serenity that will enable us to say thank you for the life we have been given.

    This mindset, where we are alive and happy, where we believe in ourselves, yet care deeply about others, where our strength and inner moral compass allow us to be bigger than the circumstances and challenges of our lives, where we subordinate our lower self in order to do what is right, and where the world feels like a good and friendly place to live is called the ‘INTEGRITY PARADIGM’.”

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  • William Skinner and Milluh
    Rest me!

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  • Sanity is a nebulous concept.

    Madness is gladness! LOL

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  • @ John
    “St. Ambrose and St. Paul as well … low church and I believe high church but I never went there.

    Grew up at St. Ambrose.

    Had family who lived in the area in the 19th and early 20th century and my mother had lots of friends there as well from St. Ambrose.”
    It must have been quite lovely to visit such a nice place as a youth. My brother’s tailor was on Wellington Street. I used to enjoy going down there , sitting in the tailor shop, waiting for 2/3 hours for his pants. I have said often that Barbados at that time and up to about 1970 was a real paradise. Still a paradise, but these days we seem hell bent on destroying it. I know of cases where people spent their entire working lives in England; returned home and was back in England after a year. They no longer understood the country they had left. Sounds like a joke but it happens more often than we think.
    @ Donna
    We are losing that battle. Not only with mauby. In this morning’s papers, our egg producers have millions of eggs they can’t sell because the bakeries are importing liquid and powder egg. A friend told me she bought apple pie, at the super market, and discovered it was not made locally but imported frozen. Who is making golden apple pies ? What about all the cherries falling to the ground. Best cherry in the world(highest vitamin C content) going to waste. Last time I was home, travelling in the country, I stopped and asked complete strangers if I could pick a few cherries. One woman tell me : Skipper I would n’t mind if yuh carry long the whole tree, only I does eat dem. De children don’t even look at them. A few years back in St. Andrew I saw more mongoes on the ground than sand at Greaves End beach !
    These are the things we need to loook at.

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  • @ Enuff
    You can never defend your positions outside of a narrow perspective. Answer my questions. I’m not in code with @ Miller or anybody else. Ah waiting in slips for yuh all de time. Lol

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  • @ William

    As so often, you are absolutely right. Growing up in the environs of Nelson Street in those days was so civilised that young people of today will not believe it.
    I had my first tea in its formal sense (at 4pm) at a family called the Cobhams (the corner of Nelson and King William Streets) when I was a toddler.
    We have a number of well-known professional names whose family homes were on Nelson Street. You also talk about the advantages of local produce.
    I once played cricket in Grenada and we had Golden Apple juice at lunch. It was delicious. Every year I will visit Barbados and see apples falling from the trees or being eaten by birds. We have had a marketing board before independence.
    As a nation we are just do not take advantage of the things we have.I notice that Pine Hill Dairies also makes its juices from concentrate.
    As a regional man you will know that our neighbours were citrus producing nations, now being forced out of business because of the big central American producers.
    Why can’t PHD import the oranges, grapefruits, mangoes, etc from down the islands to produce their juice; then kame marmalades and jams from the residue and carry out research on what is left over.
    In this way we will keep farmers down the islands in work, keep Bajan in work and no need for tourists, unless as guests in hotels.
    But our decision-makers, in their shiny suits and bri-nylon shirts do not want this; it is too industrial. They want to be at the cutting edge of finance and technology, even if they do not understand it. They want to be world class.

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  • @ Hal

    THE 2 X 3 ISLAND CULTURE IS A GIMME CULTURE.

    CREATIVITY AND THINKING OUT OF THE BOX IS NOT ENCOURAGED IN THE SCHOOLS, UWI OR LOCAL SOCIETY.

    THAT IS WHY HAVE SO MANY ROBOTS FROM TOP TO BOTTOM.

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  • William Skinner
    There is nothing to defend. Why should I waste my time defending the appearance of a building, especially when your understanding of my post is non-existent? It is 2021!

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  • @ Baje

    It is not only at that level of agriculture, but also on others. We import T-shirts from South Africa. The trouble with discussing ideas on BU is that people with the funding can steal your ideas. So all you are doing, in effect, is making those people richer.

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  • William,

    Golden apple juice is sold in small outlets mainly but I have never seen pie. Innovative use of local produce is done quite expertly at the BADMC Food Innovation Unit and sold at their Carmeta’s stores. The idea was for some business person to pick up the innovations and run with them but not enough of that seems to be happening.

    I have a friend who roams about Barbados and gathers all the unwanted local fruit she can find, including gooseberries and guavas to make her sweet treats. She has done very well for herself doing so. February 14th will be one of her busiest times but really whenever we talk, regardless of the time I can hear the pots and pans banging. Going to see if I can get my best friend’s daughter interested in more of the local fruit treats. Got a cousin who makes apple pie for sale. Her 9 yr old daughter also makes sweet treats for sale. Gonna ask them if they ever considered golden apple pie. The 9 yr old would be open to it, I think.

    Strange thing is that they will sell. Not many people willing to pick the fruit. Supermarket fruit is easier even if more expensive. My friend says that oftentimes when she is doing the picking people are surprised that she would be willing to do it.

    On the upside, more and more people are seeing my garden and requesting the assistance of my Rasta cousin. People are literally cussing themselves for the lawn and concrete. Got a whole batch of healthy seedlings, too many for me to handle AGAIN. Will give some away again.

    Take heart! BADMC is looking into agri-processing AGAIN.

    Of course, last time all they did is build a processing factory with equipment that came to nothing.

    Let us hope that this is not just way to pay out some consulting fees to the investigator!

    As for those bakeries who use imported egg powder. They should be boycotted! I buy from a man who comes out with a van from a small bakery. I already asked him if they use the egg powder. Not sure if he was honest with me but next time I plan to trick him instead of asking outright.

    I see Barbados Today published an article by Commissiong about a Caricom resurgence in response to the economic quagmire of the pandemic. A flurry of committee meetings.

    Dare we hope?

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  • @ Donna
    We need to throw serious money into these cottage industries. There is both new and second hand processing equipment sitting all over the world. They are retired experts both at home and abroad who will freely do the necessary training.
    It’s really refreshing to hear from you on these matters. Imagine if we were giving these industrious citizens the help they deserved for the last forty years. We would not be scrambling about at this stage. A whole generation would have grown up using our own produce.
    First thing – get rid of Paul , he is impervious to new ideas.
    Just think about it. One producer has 2 million eggs in storage and consumers eating the same egg powder and liquid egg that Americans eating in fast food outlets.
    At least you are not in that crowd.
    Keep the message going. Eat right or die wrong.

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  • There was a time
    Hey hey I feel alright

    There was a day, there was a time
    When I used to play
    There was a time when I used to play
    But take me now, baby, don’t worry about later
    Teach the dance I used to do
    They call it the Mashed Potato
    There was a day, now dig this
    There was a day, they call it the Jerk
    Everybody relax and watch me work
    In my hometown where I used to stay
    The name of the place is Augusta, GA
    Down there we have a good time
    We don’t talk
    We all get together in time, for rhythm with you
    So come and walk
    There was a day that I used to do
    The name of the dance
    They call it Boogaloo
    I may not do the dance as well as you
    But baby, you can bet your bottom dollar
    That you never hear me holler
    I do the best that I can do
    There was a time, sometimes I dance
    Sometimes I dance, sometimes I clown
    But you can bet you haven’t seen nothing yet
    Until you see me do the James Brown

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  • @ Donna,

    Truper Fruit Picker Head sold at Carters

    Get a bamboo pole and you can pick golden apples, mangoes and pears.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    “The trouble with discussing ideas on BU is that people with the funding can steal your ideas. So all you are doing, in effect, is making those people richer.’

    That’s a hoot, a holler and a highfalutin laff, truly.

    That matter of ideas being stolen is so clichéd that @Austin is right and so laughably wrong at the same time.

    We all have great ideas but bringing them to operational manufactured products or deliverable services takes a lot more than an active mind.

    Of course there are the many instances where the idea is prepared into a solid business plan and that is stolen at the investment meeting after being dismissed as unworkable…. but that’s not the case here now, is it!

    Anyone offering an idea in public fora is clearly aware that it can be monetized by a reader thus the offering is clearly made to display some intellectual heft and allow for subsequent “yah see, that was my idea” 😂.

    Consider too that in a world of over six billion brains it’s uncanny (😂 maybe) that it’s VERY, VERY likely that the wondrous idea has ALSO been conceptualized by at least a million other smart persons who may read similar books, have similar experiences and thus perceive similar needs !

    Thus if one is ‘sold’ on a concept monetize it yourself (there are LOTS of avenues to do that these days) … otherwise be very contented with the “I told you so…”!

    And in that regard this quote below brought me to the fact that either this bro STOLE @Austin’s idea, Austin stole his or that the idea was never either of theirs 🙈😎 … ah well, that’s an idea: any original *idea is only as good as the patent you have – and THAT only last so long too before its copied fully”…..

    “Brown has been advocating for a competing candidate, law professor Mehrsa Baradaran, an expert on the racial wealth gap who has called for the delivery of banking services through the U.S. Postal Service.”

    I gone.

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  • @ William

    You raise an interesting point about the importation of second hand equipment. I also often wonder about this when I see how Chefette dominates the fast food market in Barbados in a market with a very low barrier to entry.
    There are any number of second hand chicken frying equipment going for a sound in the UK, the problem with this is that the people in customs often try bullying importers and put their own prices on the equipment (they usually do a Google search).
    It is the same with high-performance cars. One car dealer sells second hand BMWs at such high prices that I could buy good quality cars and ship them to Barbados at a fraction of the price. But I doubt if Customs will allow this.
    The entire state functions in a hostile way against poor people advancing. It is a Failed State,

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  • Hal AustinJanuary 22, 2021 11:00 AM
    .
    I had my first tea in its formal sense (at 4pm) at a family called the Cobhams (the corner of Nelson and King William Streets) when I was a toddler.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++

    We got to know the Chenery’s on River Road well and I remember being invited to tea at 4:00 pm often.

    Two sisters served on the council of St. Ambrose along with my mother so often got an invitation.

    A third sister attended St. Paul’s.

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  • Also remember Ms. Browne just at the entrance to Wellington Street.

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  • They were serious women!!!!

    All about discipline and high expectations.

    Lucky to have known them.

    Full of life.

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  • @ Artax January 21, 2021 9:21 PM

    “………NIS building which was opened by Q E 2 in 1977)……”

    @ Miller

    There’s a plaque affixed to the old National Insurance building, which clearly states, “This building was officially opened by Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II on 20th February 1975.”
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Thanks Artax, for the correction to my ‘genuine’ oversight.

    At least you do read my contributions as eagerly as I certainly look forward to read yours in the interest of making the “BU” a top-of-the line social media platform worthy of great intellectual admiration.

    Even our ‘mutual friend’ Hal Austin- in his true Scrooge-like fashion-must confess to his unmitigated agreement that BU is his first love in his old age.

    It was just a genuine slip of the memory since the official opening of that ‘old’ NIS building occurred during the same occasion Queen Elizabeth 11 visited Barbados in 1975 to knight our greatest hero Sir Garry Sobers and not on her third visit in 1977.

    Again It may have been just a slip for a senior moment since a ‘less old’ miller made an ‘exact’ date reference to the HM QE 2 unveiling in an earlier post when the ‘condemned ‘old’ NIS was a popular topic of discussion about 1 year ago.

    We do support your proposal(s) regarding the ‘alternative’ use for the demolished site of the NIS et al building(s) since the ‘small’ City of Bridgetown already has its own park and relaxation spaces like the Queen’s Park and the Independence and Heroes Squares even if dominated by the homeless and vagrants.

    Why not honour the memory of Clement Payne through the economic enfranchisement of black people in Barbados as envisioned by Marcus Garvey (and his Bajan-born disciples in Clifford Bourne, Arnold Ford, Mignon Inniss, James Yearwood, Lionel Greenidge et al) in his visit to Barbadoes by making that ‘demolished’ site an emporium with adequate facilities catering to ‘visitors’ basic needs and as a place to relax occasionally and reflect on their journey from West Africa reminiscent to what the eponymous Jews underwent from Egypt to the promised land?

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  • Miller January 22, 2021 1:31 PM #: “Thanks Artax, for the correction to my ‘genuine’ oversight.”

    @ Miller

    No problem.

    We’re all human beings and will make mistakes from time to time.

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  • @ Quaker John

    Those were very good days. Children never addressed adults by their first names and even if your parent s had a row with someone you still had to pay your respects.
    They were also days when people went to bed and left their doors unlocked or with just a latch to keep them closed. Now people need anti-burglary bars, burglary alarms, bolts and double-locks and even guns.
    The most serious street fights we had were boys throwing stones at each other, and the worse theft was stealing breadfruits or coconuts from a neighbours back garden.
    I remember Rev O.C. Haynes at St Barnabas, who would walk from Gittens Road, where he lived to the church every evening without fail and all the little kids will pay their respects.
    Whatever happened to that Barbados?

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  • @ Hal
    I have no idea what reps do in places like Miami. When I used to be busy , I sent dozens of second and barely damaged equipment into some Caribbean islands.
    We seem so content with a bottle here and a bottle there. All the major fast food outlets started extremely small. Big businesses like Amazon started in a garage. I remember when Cheffette had one outlet on the Harbour Road. On the other hand Grannies was happy with one establishment. The Workman family had about 3 or four rum shops and create the famous body line bread.
    We have gone backwards in many ways. However, I blame the black political class for allowing manufacturing to die; not pumping money into small auto repair and body shops etc.
    Man, it’s Friday. Have a drink on me. Sometimes even writing about these things could make a big man cry.
    One step forward two step backward development.

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  • @ William

    I will settle for two lead pipes and a Martineau. Why can’t we export Conkies?

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  • The first Chefette was opened in Fontabelle sometime during 1972, opposite what was then know as Motor Services Ltd.

    Granny’s opened another outlet in Spry a few years ago, but, unfortunately, it did not ‘last too long.’

    Chicken Barn Ltd. began in a small restaurant on Bay Street. It subsequently moved to a new location a few yards away from the first one. They subsequently opened outlets in Worthing, Warrens, Coverley, Wildey, and Black Rock.

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  • You keep forgetting Dr. Donawa!!

    Brown Sugar, Pisces, Witch Doctor, Beefeater and God knows what other business venture.

    Eventually he retired to Canada where he recently passed.

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  • T.R.O.Y. They Reminisce Over You

    You live as long as the last person who remembers you

    When I remember you
    You will live again

    If I ruled the world I would ban all Bajans from reminiscing

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  • … all sorts of kitchen equipment.

    Knew him from the time I was a boy.

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  • @ Artax
    You are correct about a second Granniesin the city. Like you said it did not last too long.
    There was also a restaurant called the Birds Best opposite the Esplanade. That was a real night opener. Very interesting joint after basketball etc.
    Would you agree we are losing or have lost our charm/ quaintness ?
    Have we succeeded in blending the old with the new?

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