Message to Barbadians

The climate developing countries have to manage affairs of state appears to be very challenging at this time. Barbados the former colony can no longer expect to hide or be protected by England. There was a time we benefited from preferential trade treatment which seemed fair in a dog eat dog world where the ‘strongest’ always has the best chance to navigate challenges.

In a post 54th independence period sensible Barbadians are forced to reflect and to ask – where do we go from here?

Some debate whether the decline of the Barbados economy (and society) started in the 70s, what is for certain is that the decline accelerated after the 2008 global recession. The structure of our economy with an over reliance on services made us extremely vulnerable to significant slowdown in the world economy. Unfortunately we have been unable to patch the vulnerability which has been exposed again by the Covid 19 pandemic.

Reading many comments on BU and listening to commentary elsewhere, it has become painfully obvious despite the dark challenges facing Barbados there are unrealistic expectations the leadership of the country has not address. Barbadians for many years have enjoyed a reasonable standard of living supported by deficit financing in the post Barrow period. There is nothing wrong with spending more than you earn but it is a practice which cannot be sustained. Successive governments in the last four decades have borrowed heavily to pursue national budget objects. We can continue to quibble about who to blame and see where that get us.

The blogmaster is palpably aware from walking among Barbadians on a daily basis that many are suffering from a form of ‘Alice in Wonderland Syndrome’. At a household level commonsense would dictate that supporting a lifestyle of spending more than one earns will lead eventually to a problem. Why do Barbadians expect a different outcome if successive governments continue to engage in reckless financial management? We have spent billions on education, should citizens possess the awareness to translate it to a strident lobby against the establishment to ensure realistic policy decisions are implemented? What about other key stakeholders in civil society like media houses/practitioners and NGO groups?

In the 54 Not Out blog there is a cursory discussion about local media. We have a David Ellis who has been the standout media person in Barbados over the years but a single journalist will not do it. Also we do not have the columnists of the past who provoked deep thought in the population the likes of Oliver Jackman, Gladstone Holder, Leonard Shorey to name only three. Active NGO groups are important as well because interest can be more forcefully represented in numbers. We are at a place in Barbados all problems must be solved by the government. To move forward we must implement a fit for purpose governance model. The reactionary approach to managing our affairs will not deliver meaningful long term results. We fail to plan, we plan to fail.

This morning as the blogmaster sips from a cup of peppermint tea alone with his thoughts, it is clear the country is suffering from a ‘fatigue’, especially wrought by the post 2008 period. This was compounded by a severe policy prescription that has decimated the hopes and dreams of the middleclass forced to witness a manhandling of nest eggs in the most unprecedented way. Finally came Covid 19.

The unprecedented times in which we live demands a degree of planning and collaboration between stakeholders in civil society never envisaged. The blogmaster is unable to reconcile conversations emanating from the mouths of key actors given what the national imperatives should be. Propping up a lifestyle fuelled by conspicuous consumption must be addressed. Calibrating our educations system to produce citizens who can compete to support themselves. Dismantling sub cultures and replace with initiatives to nurture national pride. The forgoing should positively impact crime. Last but not least the environment. We have to care about the space in which we have to exist.

No more tea…

Discuss for 15 marks.

267 comments

  • Q This blogmaster is curious how a person blessed in the use of flowery vernacular would describe a Black man, with a big nose, with many tattoos etc.
    A THEY WOULD USE GOOD ENGLISH SYNONYMS………LOL IF THEY KNEW THEM

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  • @ Carson

    They will soon be demanding that we treat Diwali the same as Xmas. It is a well trodden path. They know what they are doing. Just read the column in Barbados Today by the Imam.
    It is cultural suicide. But this is who we are.

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  • MillerDecember 3, 2020 9:03 AM

    @ Carson C CadoganDecember 3, 2020 8:37 AM
    “BIG NOSE
    LARGE LIPS
    VERY BLACK
    BIG EYES
    LOTS OF TATTOOS
    and other humiliating terms.”
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    LOL!!

    CCC, you are on the ball today!

    They make up such identikits based on what they see in their self-hating mirror.

    Straight out of the brainwashing drawing book ‘authored’ by their white superiors who view the black race as somewhere between the ‘dumb’ African ape fit for residence in a European zoo and the ugly Aryan called Neanderthal.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Google this program which is the most popular in Africa.

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  • Down the rabbit hole we burrow.

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  • Dont forget how they humiliated Stuart with the name calling of big nose and some of the black house nig..gus joined in the chorus like idiots
    So funny but some of these house nigg.us who laughed and humiliated Stuart because of his God given physical features are now being stomped on humiliated and given a whitewash by the house master to whom they have to go begging for what is rightfully there’s
    Stuart had warned these gullible fools that when the lion and the lamb lies down together the weakest would be devoured by the strongest
    So here two years later his truth is being unfolded and nobody is laughing now

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  • Let us not forget how you humiliated Arthur by referring to him as a drunk.

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  • Not like supporters of the Barbados Labour Party.

    Don’t forget them.

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  • @ David December 3, 2020 8:51 AM

    So why not first concentrate those ‘scarce resources’ where it is needed most?

    How about a boot camp for those in positions of “Leadership” to reconditioned them in morality and ethics?

    No need to regurgitate the old maxim that ‘children learn what the see more so than what they hear’.

    Who and where are the role models for these youth to emulate?

    After all, the young people- especially the males- are only ‘aping’ those they see at the top of the ‘white collar crime tree’ doing ‘wrong’ and not being reprimanded or punished in accordance with the requirements of the Law!

    When the boys riding their uninsured bikes on the road to the Carlisle in the most dangerous manner- can see a duty-free Mercedes vehicle overtake them and being driven by a ghost what do you think is going through their heads?

    Are they asking where is the money coming from to pay for their ‘re-education’ in how to be good citizen, corporate or otherwise?

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  • RE Down the rabbit hole we burrow.

    WE DO THAT EVERY DAY HERE ON BU ……AND HAVE DONE SO FOR YEARS
    MOST CAN NOT DEBATE AN ISSUE BY GIVING FACTS FOR AND AGAINST
    MOST CAN NOT READ A PIECE OF PROSE AND DISSECT IT AND DISCUSS IT WITHOUT THE AD HOMINEMS
    MOST COME HERE WITHOUT A KNOWLEDGE OF A SUBJECT AND DEMONSTRATE THEIR IGNORANCE

    RE Let us not forget how you humiliated Arthur by referring to him as a drunk.
    WELL IF HE WAS A DRUNK WHAT SHOULD THEY HAVE CALLED HIM? A SAINT?

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  • @Miller

    We have to attack the malleable minds. The coggers and the majority of incumbents are past the point of no return.

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  • Arthur habit of drinking was well known around barbados as well to be seen in that well known Speightstown bar
    However it was something OSA chose to do for whatever reason and he could have decided not to
    However Stuart had no choice in the make up of his physical appearance
    However the Blp and their yardfowls could not resist their ignorance of insults towards Stuart
    Today the govt appearance on policies is uglier than ugly and should be punished with laughter

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  • @ David December 3, 2020 9:06 AM

    The miller is simply regurgitated what obtains in Barbadoes and clearly highlighted by Carson Yardfolw Cadogan.

    The miller was never a member of any agency responsible for issuing identikits of missing or wanted persons in Barbados.

    Those are not the ‘pejorative’ adjectives the miller is prepared to copy from any book of illustration issued from a European perspective like the pictures in your Bible.

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  • AC
    RE However the Blp and their yardfowls could not resist their ignorance of insults towards Stuart
    FUMBLE STUART HAD NO RIGHT TO BE PM EVER
    HE HAS NEVER EXCELLED AT ANYTHING ANYWHERE AT ANYTIME
    HE IS JUST LIKE JOE BIDEN IN THE USA
    YOU CANT DEFEND THE INDEFENSIBLE

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  • “”Young BLACK males in London 19 times more likely be to be stopped and search””

    https://www.theguardian.com/law/2020/dec/03/young-black-males-in-london-19-times-more-likely-to-be-stopped-and-searched?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_b-gdnnews&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1606979452

    Then these WHITE perpetrators from the UK come down to Barbados to enjoy a much needed rest and relaxation holiday. All that hard work. And we do so much to encourage them.

    UK is our No. 1 tourist market. We are so proud of it.(in spite of what the UK Police do to our decedents)

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  • @Carson

    It is worse than that. The very police come down to the Caribbean to run training courses ow to stop and search young black men, and what excuses to give.
    They do not listen to returnees because they do not like the brutal truth. Bajans in Barbados know absolutely nothing about us, not even those sent to work at the high commission as professionals.

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  • GPDecember 3, 2020 10:05 AM

    AC
    RE However the Blp and their yardfowls could not resist their ignorance of insults towards Stuart
    FUMBLE STUART HAD NO RIGHT TO BE PM EVER
    HE HAS NEVER EXCELLED AT ANYTHING ANYWHERE AT ANYTIME
    HE IS JUST LIKE JOE BIDEN IN THE USA
    YOU CANT DEFEND THE INDEFENSIBLE

    So Stuart is no longer PM!
    But what does your comment has to do with the subject of his physical appearance
    Please note that Biden color and physical appearance are in complete opposite to Trump and Biden
    Also please note that u have used insulting language against the first Black President
    Whilst defending Trump racist and despicable language towards women and also the handicap.and countries he called shit holes
    So who are u to be placing judgement on any one in leadership
    Physician heal thy self

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  • “However Stuart had no choice in the make up of his physical appearance.”

    That’s true…… I couldn’t agree with you more.

    But, did you ever take time out to think other people likewise “had no choice in the make up of (their) physical appearance” each time you described Kerry Symmonds as ‘oblong head Kerry….. or Dale Marshall as ‘teets Marshall?’

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  • I love big noses, big lips and big eyes. Very black is better to me than very white.

    I was actually watching MSNBC fifteen minutes ago and fixating on the long pointed nose and lips disappearing into the mouth of an otherwise attractive doctor on Biden’s COVID council and thinking I’d rather have my face.

    The descriptions do sound funny but I don’t find them insulting because these are our features and I love them.

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  • I agree with donna, ugly kids come from ugly parents, if you dont believe it …follow an ugly kid home.

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  • What is ugly? Eurocentric stereotyping does not count Lawson.

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  • ac
    re But what does your comment has to do with the subject of his physical appearance

    PLEASE KINDLY NOTE THAT I SAID NOTHING ABOUT FUMBLES physical appearance I SPOKE ABOUT HIS INCOMPETENCE AND INABILITY AND COMPARED HIM TO THE EQUALLY INCOMPETENT BIDEN, WHOSE NON STELLAR TRACK RECORD IS WELL KNOWN

    PLEASE KINDLY NOTE ALSO THAT I THOUGHT the first Black President TO BE INCOMPETENT ALSO
    I DONT RANT AND RAVE ABOUT A MAN BECAUSE HE BECAME the first Black President.
    I NEVER RANT AND RAVE ABOUT A MAN BECAUSE HE IS BLACK.
    I APPRECIATE MEN WHO ARE COMPETENT

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  • next donna will talk about brits teeth, david ..take a hard look at the real heros of this world and they never look like the actors who play them. real people may not be pretty on the outside but is whats inside that counts

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  • Making the program.

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  • Perhaps this may stir the creative juices of the youth and give us all some fun

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  • Here is a full episode of the top program out of Africa.

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  • Gp

    Please note i called u out for supporting a racist who has no right to Be President of the USA

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  • This from the man fixated on the “hotness” of the Orange Turd’s wife, Dr. Boobies.

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  • Ah yes, the Brits teeth! One word – HORRIBLE!

    Moving on to the elongated nose, long earlobes… what am I forgetting?

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  • @ Donna

    I find the descriptions a bit disturbing, because there aren’t any significant differences between how runaway slaves were described in ‘fugitive slave’ ads and descriptions of wanted individuals in police notices.

    I recall reading an advertisement appearing in an August 4, 1838 US newspaper, in which a slave owner was seeking information leading to the recapture of a ‘fugitive slave,’ who was described by the owner, as “my negro boy named Fagans, who is heavy built, about five feet eight or ten inches high, near thirty-five years old, has a heavy black beard, large and long forehead, thin visage, a remarkable long and sharp nose……”
    A 35 year old man being referred to as “my negro BOY.”

    I’ve also seen ads in which ‘Negro men’ were described as ‘of very black complexion,’ or having large full eyes, large or crooked nose, thick or large lips and there was always some reference to the forehead.

    Also, read the Fugitive Slave Act that was passed by Congress and signed by President George Washington in February 1793. The Act made it a federal offence for anyone to assist those who had escaped slavery or to interfere with their capture. It allowed the pursuit of “persons escaping from…their masters” everywhere in the United States, North and South.

    This brings me to another point. We were recently discussing Nelson’s association with slavery. According to Trevor Marshall and other Nelson was associated with slavery and responsible for the deaths of several slaves, which were among several of the reasons people called for the statue to be removed from Heroes Square.

    George Washington signed the ‘Fugitive Slave Law of 1793,’ yet, I’ve not heard ONE argument supporting the CLOSURE of ‘George Washington House.’
    Probably because Washington stayed at the house for two months in 1751 before he became president……………. and it’s a tourist attraction for all visitors from the USA.

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  • Is Lawson admitting that white people ain’t too pretty?

    Do remember that your heroes are not ours!

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  • Ah yes! I remember now….. moving on downwards we have the envelope backside.

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  • Artax,

    I understand your point but I am not bothered by how they described my ancestors. I think they were beautiful. Those racists do not define me or my ancestors for me.

    Besides, I bet they were not a pretty sight. The British are still not pretty. Except for Tom Jones the Welshman. At least he WAS years ago.

    Tee hee!

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  • “next donna will talk about brits teeth,”

    those are goddamn notorious, christ…they’re an orthodontists’ dream..

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  • @Blogmaster
    the subtle reality most ignore….Barbados was insolvent. That was the challenge. Hence, one of the more significant acts of the default, was grabbing all the T-Bills and converting them to Bonds. That provided the GoB with CASH. Many of the ‘smarter’ investors KNEW the problems. So they had switched from Bonds to T-Bills well before, somewhat confident that T-Bills were rarely touched in a default. Woe is dem? A fancy form of homegrown financing? Now the question for 20 marks…who owned those T-bills?
    Short of ‘forgiveness’; which is a nice word, producing the same result as ‘bankruptcy’, a not-so-nice word: discuss the options, for 30 marks. Make sure you include exactly who is being asked to forgive, and what they are forgiving.
    For the remaining 50 marks (no free marks for just showing up) describe SUSTAINABLE and the future benchmarks to ensure sustainability. (in other words, not ‘how we get back here’)

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  • ps…kindly do not repost that…lol

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  • No Donna what I am saying is most people arent all that pretty. I have yet to meet any hollywood lesbians the ones I know are all bull dykes with side burns. Speaking of which you old hags start to grow the mustache, gain the weight and get the broad beam as you age. Didnt somebody say your shadow killed a dog. Indentured servants why do you think they call a lot of the old brits on the island that.

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  • Not at all! I am not fat. Just ten pounds to lose. And I am younger than you are and nobody thinks I am as old as I am. So many new gadgets out there we don’t have have to worry about the mustache. Now you see it, now you don’t!

    But know this – I’d rather be old and black than old and white. No contest.

    P.S. What do you mean most people aren’t that pretty? Who have you been looking at????

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  • @Northern Observer

    This exam does not meet the matriculation standard of CXC the appointed examiner in the country.

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  • @Lawson
    may I introduce you to Suzette Malveaux and her partner Karine Jean Pierre. (you could google dem)
    Like many lesbians they are anything like the ‘bull dykes’ you describe. And in case you didn’t know it, Ms.Malveaux, you will know her from CNN fame, is black. You ever see Ellen’s wife, Portia, yes the former model.

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  • @Blogmaster
    I am indeed indebted to the CXC.

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  • For those in the Barbados Govt. and Tourism Industry who think that a Vaccine is just around the corner, think again.

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  • NO I used to think maxine watters was a dyke…until somebody told me she was a guy.

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  • @ John December 3, 2020 11:58 AM
    “Here is a full episode of the top program out of Africa.”
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    You are having a field day taking the piss out of black people just like how the satirical show “Spitting Image” takes the Mickey out of ugly white (and black) politicians (including your deranged idol Trump) and members of the dysfunctional ‘Royal’ family.

    But you might just be speaking a bushel of Truth about the brainwashing programme blacks have undergone.

    For it is only members of the black race who see ‘white’ people as ‘attractive’ to the naked eye.

    That’s why blacks, especially black women, would spend the world of money to ‘ape’ them.

    It’s a pity most blacks cannot recognize that the abundance of melanin among them is like manna from the Star God which ‘blessed’ them with their ebony skin to survive against the intense rays of Its power-giving sustenance and love.

    Why do you think white people spend billions in money to travel to sun-drenched places to get their ‘enviable’ tans and to worship the Master?

    Why don’t you ask the opinion of Indians and Chinese how they perceive the European; especially on the ‘quality’ and appearance of the largest organ covering their bodies which was the biggest medium of transmission of the ‘European’ plague to the “New World”?

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  • “So they had switched from Bonds to T-Bills well before, somewhat confident that T-Bills were rarely touched in a default. Woe is dem? A fancy form of homegrown financing? Now the question for 20 marks…who owned those T-bills?”

    i take it that’s a 3 choices question and the first two don’t count….lol

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  • @Mariposa December 3, 2020 9:49 AM “Arthur habit of drinking was well known around barbados as well to be seen in that well known Speightstown bar.

    No. Not Speightstown.

    John Moore’s Bar is at Weston, St. James.

    I hear that it used to be run by my kinsfolk, however I don’t drink [I wish that i could] and even though i was raised within walking distance of the bar I have never actually gone there.

    I’ve heard that it is a lovely bar though. Beautiful location too.

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  • Miller I kinda get what your saying but why does that delicious ebony skin you talk about want to come to the country of cold darkness and ice where it does no good.

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  • The Advocate passes comment on the need for leadership in a fellow Caribbean nation; yet it remains mute on the crisis of leadership in Barbados.

    https://www.barbadosadvocate.com/columns/commentary-haitian-people-sadly-and-badly-need-champion

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  • IDB’s helping hand
    By Shawn Cumberbatch
    shawncumberbatch@nationnews.com
    Government has turned to the Inter-American Development Bank (IDB) for $240 million to strengthen Barbados’ health and economic response to the COVID-19 pandemic.
    Yesterday, the financing agency announced that the US$120 million 20-year policy-based loan, to be executed by the Ministry of Finance, Economic Affairs and Investment, was “the first of a two-step programme with Barbados to improve the efficiency and effectiveness of the country’s public policy and fiscal management in response to COVID-19 crisis”.
    This will be done “through the design and implementation of effective and fiscally responsible policy measures”.
    The funds, which were approved by the IDB’s board of governors earlier this week, will be disbursed shortly, but form part of a larger package being negotiated by Government with the International Monetary Fund, the European Investment Bank and the Development Bank of Latin America (CAF). The total package amounts to US$402 million.
    Support
    Based on documents released by the IDB, the funding would help the Mia Amor Mottley administration fully implement several projects already under way as part of the response to COVID-19.
    “The proceeds will be used to promote macroeconomic stability and finance measures to address the pandemic, including the purchase of medicine, medical supplies and equipment,” the IDB said.
    “Resources will also be used to support temporary measures to protect household income and provide businesses with working capital as the pandemic continues to hurt the economy, especially tourism, one of the country’s biggest economic sectors.
    “The loan will also support the planning and design of fiscal and economic measures that will help the country recover in the post-pandemic period, including measures to simplify taxes, increase Government revenues, control spending, and improve tax management and customs enforcement capabilities,” it added.
    Government officially requested this latest IDB support in an October 22, 2020 letter from Minister in the Ministry of Economic Affairs and Investment, Marsha Caddle, to the institution’s new president Mauricio Claver-Carone. The new loan falls under the Programme To Strengthen Public Policy And Fiscal Management In Response To The Health And Economic Crisis Caused By COVID-19 In Barbados.
    In Caddle’s correspondence, which the IDB published under its Access to Information Policy, she said the pandemic was having “a serious effect on the Barbadian economy with the latest estimates pointing to an economic contraction of 11.6 per cent for this year.
    “Tourism and tourism-related sectors (hotels, restaurants, bars and entertainment) have been the most affected. The economic and social implications of the strict, but necessary, containment measures are also affecting other sectors (agriculture, construction, manufacturing),” the minister said.
    “Additionally, there have been negative impacts on the labour force, with almost 32 000 unemployment claims submitted to the National Insurance social security system since March 2020. Finally, the COVID-19 crisis will also have a negative impact on vulnerable households, potentially leading to an increase in poverty and inequality.”
    In the 30-page proposal for the new loan, the specific objectives outlined were to ensure timely availability of public resources to address the health emergency caused by COVID-19; strengthen the countercyclical role of fiscal policy through the temporary protection of employment and income of vulnerable households during the health and economic crisis; support the effective and continuous provision of essential goods and services through fiscal policy and management measures; and promote economic and fiscal recovery.

    Nation

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  • @ David,
    Another day; another loan!

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  • @TLSN

    If the economy is stuck in the mud because of COVID 19 it seems the government is trying to use concessionary funding to hedge our bets. We are in survival mode.

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  • More money that the poor people, who get the less out of the economy, has to repay.

    Will BLACK PEOPLE ever get out of our bondage?????

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  • More and more debt, the Barbados Labour Party Govt. keeps adding to our strangle hold debt. Debt have to be repaid. Not by the WHITE BAJANS AND INDIANS.

    Only by us.

    This is the woman who said on the campaign trail before the 2018 General elections that Barbadians have too much debt and she was going to reduce it. Nice way to reduce it.

    That is a joke!!!

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  • MIA AMOR MOTTLEY must really think that lending agencies and Govts. are stupid.

    She is busy writing off MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS of dollars for the WHITE BAJANS AND INDIANS instead of collecting them for debts owed to the Govt. coffers, our money. What little taxes they pay, vat revenue, rents to Govt. ,loans to Govt. ,duties to Govt. She is so happy being the first female PM, with money from them, that she is willing to look the other way.

    But loan agencies are seeing what is happening. Borrowing or wanting to borrow and then not paying back the correct amount. The people are not idiots, She giving away money to the 3% of the Barbados population and then going cap in hand to these agencies when she should collected what is owned to the Govt. coffers by these people.

    That is why she can get money only from the CDB where she wants to take over.

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  • Repeating myself…

    @CCC 7:50 a.m.
    “The people are not idiots, She giving away money to the 3% of the Barbados population and then going cap in hand to these agencies when she should collected what is owned to the Govt. coffers by these people.”

    I still have not figured out ‘money in Barbados’.

    One minute in search of funding, the next minute lucrative contracts and generous donations to some and then ecstatic when receiving a loan of any amount.

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  • Another day; another loan!

    Yet the BLP apparatchiks are braying as if going cap-in-hand to the international financiers is some sort of economic policy wizardry.

    #financialilliterates

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  • Vincent Codrington

    If only we would pause to think. I will take my advice.

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  • One day coming soon these loans would bite them in the arse
    Govt would be remembered as visionless
    Like beggars on international financial doorsteps
    Having no growth plan to help repay the mountain of collected plan from borrowing
    Oversized cabinet
    Million dollar consultants
    Giving tax breaks to the big corporations
    40 thousand unemployed
    Having no plan to rebuild funding for NIS
    While workers beg rogue employers for their just fues2

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  • Another day; another loan!
    WE HAVE BECOME A NATION OF BEGGARS
    WE KNOW WHAT NATION’S HAVE A LEADER THAT IS AN EMBARRASMENT, WHO CREATED JOBS AND IMPROVED HIS ECONOMY. BUT WE CANT ADDRESS THE FIASCO AT HOME, WHERE THE CARING MAM IS AMERE LOUD MOUTH BEGGAR.
    Another day; another loan!
    WE HAVE BECOME A NATION OF BEGGARS

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  • How much does America owe the Chinese?

    Come to think of it – how much does Trump owe? And to whom does he owe it? We know it is not American banks. They don’t lend him squat!

    But to all sane people,

    Ain’t nothong we can do but borrow in the short term. We have to focus on the medium to long term.

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  • But we were told by MIA AMOR MOTTLEY on the campaign trail in the run up 2018 General elections that the county has too much debt and her Govt. was going to bring down?

    How do you square that with the continuing raising the debt levels by this same woman????

    Don’t forget these loans have to be repaid. Are we willing to imprison our children and grand children with this unsustainable debt???? Should not we be earning our way instead of borrowing so much all the time????

    What about the the Billions of dollars on local Banks?????

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  • MIA AMOR MOTTLEY has the biggest Cabinet in the History of the Caribbean.

    Can they only borrow money?????

    Are they unable to come with ideas to EARN money???

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  • What part does the WHITE BAJAN AND INDIAN owned Barbados private sector play????

    If any.

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  • Only buy and sell is all the Barbados private sector can manage?????

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  • How much does America owe the Chinese?
    WHO CARES? HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE PRICE OF CHEESE OR ANYTHING ELSE IN BARBADOS?

    Come to think of it – how much does Trump owe? And to whom does he owe it? We know it is not American banks. They don’t lend him squat!

    WHO CARES? HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE PRICE OF CHEESE OR ANYTHING ELSEIN BARBADOS?
    SOON NO ONE ELSE WILL BE LENDING BARBADOS MONEY TOO, EXCEPT CHINA. IN EXCHANGE THEY WILL BE EXPORTING MORE OF THEIR INFERIOR PRODUCTS. (C.F MICHAEL RAY’S POST IN BARBADOS TODAY.) TO BARBADOS

    Ain’t nothong we can do but borrow in the short term. SO THEN BEG ON FOR WE ARE INDEED A NATION OF BEGGARS AS I SAID WITHOUT FEAR OF CONTRADICTION

    We have to focus on the medium to long term.
    YOU MEAN WE SHOULD PAY OUR DEBTS INSTEAD OF ADDING MORE DEBT BY BEGGING

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  • Even some of the borrowed money was squander on blowing up buildings
    Removing Nelson at over twenty thousand dollars something that only needed a bulldozer and few heavy hands to make light work
    Taking ownership of Ram business in order to make space for the rich Hyatt
    Yet to see a toffee paper on that closed in space
    Squandermania at large at taxpayers expense

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  • @ Donna

    It’s true there isn’t anything we can do, but borrow in the short term, which inevitably increases public debt. Debt used for productive purposes, which is basically debt used to finance public projects that would earn revenue for the government, leads to an increase in economic growth.

    Regional territories are confronted with an inability to service debt payments in the prevailing economic environment. The pandemic provides an opportunity for a united approach, under CARICOM, to seek support from the international community for access to concessional financing and grants.

    Perhaps those individuals who are ‘talking’ about “going cap-in-hand to the international financiers,”beggars on international financial doorsteps” and “another day, another loan,” may want to provide the forum with their alternative plans on how government could raise revenue in the current circumstances.

    I remember a time when the forum was told, ‘where are your solutions?’

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  • In any language , when you do the same thing over and over , and expect different results , you are mad. Jamaica has been in the IMF for forty two years. The current agreement we have with the IMF is supposed to fully blossom by 2033. This forecast was Made before COVlD. This means that chances are , we would not be back to pre COVIID levels even if the economy suddenly improves tomorrow.
    In other words, no Alice in Wonderland feelings can alter this fact.
    Unless we find oil, once we continue, with these tried and failed policies, we will be nothing more than an economy in name only.
    Peace.

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  • Barbados took a decision to enter an IMF program BEFORE Covid 19 struck. Of necessity forecasts must change.

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  • Why wasn’t this discuss with the people????Are these poor people only there to place an X?????

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  • Give their own solutions so that the Govt. can steal them as their own???

    Plagiarism.

    Bear that word in mind.

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  • Artax,

    Agreed.

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  • RE I remember a time when the forum was told, ‘where are your solutions?’

    WHEN I WAS EMPLOYED TO GIVE SOLUTIONS…….I GAVE SOLUTIONS
    IT IS THE JOB OF THOSE WHO SEEK TO LEAD THE COUNTRY, OR WHO ARE LEADING THE COUNTRY, TO PRODUCE SOLUTIONS.

    I HAVE NO INTENTION OF GIVING ANY SOLUTIONS TO BENEFIT THE WELL PAID LEADERSHIP OF BARBADOS

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  • I, I, I a reminder of the Iman- Denis Kellman.

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  • That is so true.

    The Barbados Labour Party Govt. are being handsomely paid for their solutions, let them lead. Come up with their own solutions, if they have an original thought in their heads.

    It is more than telling people “”any idiot can play cricket””.

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  • @Mariposa

    There is a lot of economic illiteracy on BU as usual. This government has increased the debt to GDP ratio by a massive amount since May 2018, with no clear idea of what it wants the money to do.
    BOSS, it magical policy, was simply to pay the salaries of civil servants; so we have had the rather perverse policy of deducting money from civil servants pay to pay them at the end of the month.
    This government has not come up with a single progressive economic policy since it came to power: and it has a bigger army of consultants than Caligula – a finance minister, two junior ministers, three consultants, and a $27000 a month short-term consultant, plus civil servants.
    It has had a CoVid economic council, with eight sub-committees, tasked with reporting back in four weeks. It is months now.
    The government is a bad joke. What is worse, is that it is not held to account. Opposition parties should be throwing all these failed policies back in its face everyday; they should be monitoring every speech, every promise, is failure.
    Our media should be reminding them of their failure every day; instead of howling, and heckling and booing, BU should be amplifying all these failed policies and remind the nation that this is the worst government we have had since 1966. For the media to help, they must stop going to the same people to hear the same nonsense everytime. They need new and informed voices.
    Some people come on and talk crap abut economic growth as if they know what they are talking about, leaving the simple questions unanswered. Where is this growth going to come from? Tell us in simple terms.
    In her Queen’s Speech, the president made noises about a post office/credit union bank. What ever happened to that idea? When is the government going to publish a White Paper, a discussion document? Or is it going to go straight to a Bill? Is there going to be a national debate about the catastrophe that Arthur committed when he got rid of the BNB?
    We badly need a grown up conversation with people who know what they are talking about, not those looking for cheap laughs or trying to score party political points.

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  • Reduced revenue and higher credit defaults have led to a $317.4 million loss for FirstCaribbean International Bank Ltd.

    https://www.nationnews.com/2020/12/04/fcib-losses-317m/

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  • CIBC beats expectations despite profit slide to $1.02B

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/cibc-earnings-1.5826553

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  • Ain’t nothong[sic] we can do but borrow in the short term. We have to focus on the medium to long term.

    This is exactly the type of defeatist, problematic, clueless thinking that has become endemic. Everything is now “because of the pandemic”. Yet many are flourishing “in spite of” the pandemic. The medium term is tomorrow’s short term.

    Perhaps those individuals who are ‘talking’ about “going cap-in-hand to the international financiers,”beggars on international financial doorsteps” and “another day, another loan,” may want to provide the forum with their alternative plans on how government could raise revenue in the current circumstances.

    Buddy, stick to your pay grade.The 50-year old economic dogma in your UWI text books can’t help you in 2020+.
    You wouldn’t recognize a creative solution if it fell on your head.

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  • @ Dullard

    Brilliant. Maybe now you have said it they will listen. Crap in, crap out.

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  • Hmmmmm……..

    There was a time when Barbadians were being encouraged to put country first and not ourselves….. to offer solutions rather than criticize.

    So, I guess under the current administration, ‘patriotism’ has been replaced with ‘plagiarism.’

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  • “”Patriotism is the last refuge of a Scoundrel.””

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  • @ Carson

    Great. Plse count me out of the reactionary patriotism, my country first, my country right or wrong, hand on heart and singing the national anthem, saluting the flag, rubbish.
    Where did this all come from? I understand it in the American context, because without such nationalism there is no Great America..

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  • “You wouldn’t recognize a creative solution if it fell on your head.”

    That’s probably true and it shouldn’t surprise you. After all, you never fail to remind us how we’re all ignorant people living on a 2×3 island.

    But, you know something, I was thinking you seem not to have anything else to offer, other than criticism, day, after day, after day….. ad nauseam. But, it has now occurred to me that a creative solution from your daily dose of criticisms probably fell on my head and I couldn’t recognise it.

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  • @ Artax
    I presented my views on how to stimulate the economy at least four years ago on BU. I have also presented views since COVID. I am not known for only opposing going “ cap in hand to the IMF. My position on the IMF was fashioned before Barbados even entered its first agreement.
    I have often said that we cannot restructure our economy without reforming the educational system. I can produce my paper to the Task Force on Unemployment going back to 1987.
    Quite recently here on BU , I wrote about bringing cooperatives into the primary school and using such an activity to incorporate IT.
    The reason we are still in the debt trap and perennial poverty is because we refused to listen to the visionaries of the 60s and early 70s. We banished them from Barbados and the Caribbean and remained tied to socio economic models, that have us talking the same thing over and over.
    I compliment you on your perseverance but I am of the opinion that COVID has only exposed the soft underlying problems in our economic planning. Either make a quantum leap and throw out worn and failed policies or languish for another forty years. Simple as that. We have to pump millions into small businesses and stimulate the economy. Throwing millions into one sector and providing scratch grain to all the others will fail.
    Peace

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  • I’m happy to know you’ve NOW realised ”Patriotism is the last refuge of a Scoundrel.”

    Because, it was only just over 2½ years ago, you and others were on BU shouting ‘patriotism’ in response to criticisms of the previous DLP administration.

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  • I never used PATRIOTISM. you must be mixing me up with someone else.

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  • William Skinner December 4, 2020 12:18 PM #: “I can produce my paper to the Task Force on Unemployment going back to 1987.”

    @ Mr. Skinner

    You should.

    Contributors should be able to learn from each other. Instead, there are certain contributors who prefer to target and ridicule specific contributors, while defending silly statement of those who sing in their choir.

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  • @ Artax
    I think that many of the contributors are too tied up in party politics. I have been fortunate , and I think , @Hal had the same experience , of being exposed to some of the island’s most articulate and visionary brothers and sisters of the 60s and 70s.
    It’s sometimes surreal to hear and read some of the reactionary drivel that passes for public discourse.Its often embarrassing.
    There are some of us , who actually take these discussions seriously because our children and grandchildren have to call Bim home even if some are not born here.
    With all the good intentions, we are in a sorry mess and it can only be corrected by bold imaginative leadership at all levels.
    Like everybody else, I wish I could come here and pretend otherwise.
    To quote Observer:
    “ When duty calls/ I put the world on pause/ I am patriot for the cause.“
    I have no doubt that you are as well a patriot.
    I have always warned my friends don’t judge the world by how you are living. There is a lot of difference between a citizen who is unemployed; socially and economically broken and one who got up this morning and had three different choices of cheese and juice in their fridge.
    And that’s all I try to say.
    Continue the good work, my Comrade.
    Peace

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  • RE Contributors should be able to learn from each other. Instead, there are certain contributors who prefer to target and ridicule specific contributors, while defending silly statement of those who sing in their choir.
    MAN YOU SEE THIS ON SSS EVERY SUNDAY MORNING
    ITS THE BU WAY
    YOU ACCEPT IT AND MOVE ON

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  • @ William

    Like you I have been waiting for years for serious discussions about social and economic issues directly affecting Barbados. Sometimes we drift in to silly discussions about Trump, or long, irrelevant details about which meeting passed which resolution or, a BU favourite, Googling and trying to get cheap laughs.
    @William, we have government that is woeful, to my mind objectively the worst we have had since Independence, and all people can find to talk about is that one does not like the president or that we had the lost decade. Some even find time to talk about Stuart’s physical appearance.
    In the meantime, Barbados had a 49 per cent share in LIAT, the business failed and the country came under enormous pressure from Gaston Browne; it was decided to give the shares to Antigua at a peppercorn price.
    Now Antigua is claiming that Barbados should pay redundancy to all the former Barbadian employees. This is an agreement that was agreed by our brightest and best and, clearly, has allowed a loophole to go through in which the despicable Browne can hide.
    The nation should be told who negotiated on behalf of Barbados; who wrote the agreement; which minister cleared it; and was it cleared by Cabinet.
    In other words, we want to name and shame the incompetents who put us in a position to be bullied by the leader of Antigua. Now t ht is a serious discussion for BU, one the voters of St George North should have been told about.

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  • I have said time and time again that none of these small islands would never make it as singular nations
    COVID should have brought home that realisation however no leader in the Carribbean basin had the nerve to standup against the raging tide of self imposed economic destruction and say that the path necessary for economic survival can only be done collectively
    Party politics would continue and just maybe the straw that broke the camel debt laden back
    I for one would like to see a United combined nation of small islands
    Producing and buying amongst themselves which could help stabilize their economies while in earnest a preventive measure of stopping them from sucking on the nipples of international financial institutions looking like beggars at the front doors

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  • This talk about “offering solutions” (whatever the hell that means) and “too much criticism” (whatever the hell that means) is absolute nonsense. The duplicitous Blogmaster has put this narrative out there and naive bloggers – unsurprisingly- have bought into it.

    It is an old school trick used to deflect and silence criticism and dissenting voices.

    @David
    Tell your paymasters that it is their job to come up with solutions. That is what they get paid to do.

    Let me be clear. The Dullard is here to comment NOT to “offer solutions” (whatever the hell that means).

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  • @ Hal
    Serious discourse evaporated around the mid seventies. We have Brasstacks and BU. I personally am thankful for both. And I mean that.
    @ Mariposa
    Check today’s papers or go to mahoganycoconut.blogspot.com and you see a very positive development in CARICOM / CSME.

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  • Well guys, if you have a magic wand to transform our economy in an instant, please produce it.

    Lots of ideas about how to transform our economy have aready been offered. None of them can be completed in the short term. The problem is that we talk rather than implement. The thing to do is to start and be serious enough to follow through.

    How are we going to reap the results from a transformed educational system in the short term? (And I too have had ideas on this for YEARS.)

    This is why I say we have to borrow in the short term and shoot for transformation, beginning right now, and continuing in the medium and long term.

    I have plenty of ideas on how we can do that also. But I am at a loss as to short term solutions.

    I am not defeatest, just realistic. Actually, I have been ridiculed for being too optimistic. Now I am being ridiculed (through Artax) for being defeatest.

    You guys are terribly confused.

    And somehow again I get the feeling that Wiliam Skinner is again snidely misrepresenting my position.

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  • @ Donna

    As Dr. GP wrote, “it’s the BU way. You accept it and move on.”

    I hope you’ve noticed something in this forum, it’s not what’s contributed to this forum, it’s who contributed it.

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