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Arresting Crime @Source

In the Friday Nation newspaper of October 23, 2020 Commissioner of Police Tyrone Griffith AGAIN revealed to the public that “guns are still coming”. His comment comes in response to public concerns about gun crime. The COP remains adamant that although there has been a tightening of the security at the Barbados Port, unfortunately it has not arrested the problem. The blogmaster understands that a system is only as good as the integrity of the operators of said system. We also have other ports of entry where the security is questionable and there is the additional headache that Barbados is an island with many many areas that allow those willing to take the risk to land contraband. This is an enforcement issue BUT there is the systemic issue we have also failed as a society to even scratch the service..

Listen to the following exchange between Social Scientist Corey Layne and Community Practitioner and Veteran Journalist David Ellis from 4 minutes into the clip.

Veteran journalist David Ellis and Social Scientist Corey Layne

 

 

236 responses to “Arresting Crime @Source”

  1. Carson C Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C Cadogan

    Barbados finally have to do something serious about these WHITE BAJANS AND INDIANS. They are ruining civil society. They don’t really care because its BLACK PEOPLE that they don’t like. Most of the GUNS come in the the PORT . The Chief Of Police said so many occasions without any form of help from the Politicians who are suppose to pass laws to help protect the Society.

    They are their friends and they do want want to offend them No matter what the human cost is. How long are we going to take this ??????

    When are we going to help the police??? When are going pass to pass modern day laws and stop relying on antiquated laws?????Companies are taking things out of warehouses without the present of Customs Officers.

    When are we going to investigate the wealth of Custom Officers?????

  2. David Avatar
    David

    It seems the clip is not loading. Will have to work on it.

  3. Hal Austin Avatar
    Hal Austin

    @ Carson

    Have we got the names of the people who the guns were intended for? Remember the Cuban drug dealer, who Commissiong defended so strongly, was released and deported without telling the authorities who he was drug running for. He should have been stuck in prison until he talked. No information, no release.
    Then the Cuban/Colombian fraud said he was reformed.

  4. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    That is how things are done in Barbados. If you are friends of the Barbados Labour Party you a get out OF jail free card.
    Especially if you are WHITE BAJAN OR INDIAN.

  5. Carson C Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C Cadogan

    To this day Owen Arthur brother has not been sentenced for his crime.

  6. David Avatar
    David

    Not one single comment making contact with the causal issues.

  7. Tron Avatar
    Tron

    Carson,

    Is Donville Inniss actually still a so-called black man for you? He voluntarily obtained US citizenship and thus endorsed the racist US caste system. He also lives in lavish luxury like a white man.

  8. Critical Analyzer Avatar
    Critical Analyzer

    @David October 24, 2020 9:10 AM

    Not one single comment making contact with the causal issues.

    They can’t speak to the real issue. because the real issue is us always putting the blame on others for our failings, shortsightedness, lack of hope and belief in ourselves.

    If all the whites and indians were to leave Barbados tomorrow, I guarantee you these same people would rejoice now and in a year or less go back to blaming them for any failings after they left.

  9. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    Is Herbert still a White Bajan for you??

  10. David Avatar
    David

    Steuspe

  11. Tron Avatar
    Tron

    Carson,

    Under the reign of our Supreme Leader Mia Mottley, there are only Barbadians, no whites or blacks. Barbados is a global premium brand for the rich and powerful, a fortress in the sea of epidemics.

    Barbados has gained international recognition with its COVID19 strategy. Thank you, dear supreme leader Mia! Soon our island will rise like the phoenix from the ashes. Just wait and see, soon our Supreme Leader will reveal her secret plan for the economy. You only have to believe in our Supreme Leader firmly enough, then she will redeem you too.

  12. john2 Avatar
    john2

    CARSON

    YOU DONT KNOW WHO TO BLAME just to be racist and anti blp .

    You blaming the custom officer for letting the guns pass through
    and it is the black killing black

  13. Mariposa Avatar
    Mariposa

    David what are the Casual issues ir this your attempt to squash any attempt to put the blame squarely into the hands of a justice system who does very little against the movers and shakers of barbados when caught breaking the law
    Guns entering the port can only be done (so ) by having a sophisticated network link across the carribbean

  14. GP Avatar
    GP

    RE You only have to believe in our Supreme Leader firmly enough, then she will redeem you too.
    THIS IS BLASPHEMY TO THE HIGHEST
    I AM VERY SORRY THAT YOU HAVE THE WRONG Supreme Leader
    I AM VERY SORRY THAT YOU believe in THE WRONG Supreme Leader
    I AM VERY SORRY THAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR THE WRONG REDEEMER

    “Redemption” implies the payment of a ransom. We have been redeemed or bought back BY THE LORD JESUS CHRIT, who is The Only Redeemer.
    .
    For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself as a ransom for all, the testimony given at the proper time.–1 Timothy 2:5-6

    see also Titus 2:14…….
    who gave Himself for us to redeem us from every lawless deed, and to purify for Himself a people for His own possession, zealous for good deeds.

    Your Supreme Leader HAS NOT BOUGHT BACK ANYONE AND CAN NOT EVEN BUY BACK HER SELF
    ONLY JESUS CAN RANSOM OR BUY BACK ANYONE

    John 1:29
    The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!

    1 Corinthians 7:23
    You were bought at a price; do not become slaves of men.

    2 Corinthians 5:19
    that is, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not imputing their trespasses to them, and has committed to us the word of reconciliation.

    2 Corinthians 5:21
    For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

    Galatians 4:5
    to redeem those who were under the law, that we might receive the adoption as sons.

    Ephesians 1:7
    In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of His grace

    Hebrews 9:12-15
    Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption. For if the blood of bulls and goats and the ashes of a heifer, sprinkling the unclean, sanctifies for the purifying of the flesh, how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without spot to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.

    1 Peter 1:18-19
    knowing that you were not redeemed with corruptible things, like silver or gold, from your aimless conduct received by tradition from your fathers, but with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot.

    1 John 2:2
    And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world.

  15. Carson C Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C Cadogan

    MARIPOSA

    Well thought out and well said.

  16. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    Life for a life
    PROSECUTOR BLASTS GANG ACTIVITY AND SUGGESTS STIFF PENALTY FOR “GANG” KILLING
    Gang leaders and their soldiers who seek to reign terror on the citizens of Barbados should be willing to surrender the rest of their natural lives to the state.
    This was the position of Deputy Director of Public Prosecutions
    Page 8 Barbados Today

  17. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    It’s time for an anathematization!

  18. David Avatar
    David

    What is insightful is frustration of the social worker who is on the frontline and has to confront the issue of crime in living colour. Instead we have the idiots who reduce/distill every thing through political lens.

  19. TheOGazerts Avatar
    TheOGazerts

    Did the PC touched on the following:
    Where are these guns entering?
    How are they entering?
    Who is responsible?
    Why are we unable to stem the flow?
    Are the police hands tied?
    Let’s stop pretending everything is a state secret and paying lip-service to issues.

    Please note that guns and crime are both a BLP and a DLP issue. The usual division should not exist

  20. Sargeant Avatar
    Sargeant

    NO posted this link yesterday in another blog

    U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) officers in Cincinnati found three handguns and seven ammunition magazines after opening a shipment labeled as automotive parts.

    The officers became suspicious when an X-ray on Oct. 16 revealed abnormalities in the shipment, according to a CBP press release.

    There were auto parts in the shipment in addition to guns with the serial numbers filed off and the magazines, CBP said.

    CBP said no ammunition was found in the shipment, which came from a resident of North Carolina and was bound for an individual in Barbados

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2020/10/21/handguns-seized-cincinnati-were-labeled-auto-parts/6004526002/

  21. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    Guns are the new way of getting money in Barbados. They are now the source of revenue of choice. We know who does almost all of the importing in Barbados.

    They will always be people who try to protect and defend the indefensible. Because of the type of people involved.

  22. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    This ” hand guns seized case ” will identify the shipper and the receiver in the US.

    Don’t expect much coverage in the Barbados main stream media.

  23. John A Avatar
    John A

    @ David

    Yes how they are getting in is an issue but not the only issue, so let’s put race and politics aside and consider a few things.

    How many persons who have taken a life here by using a gun have either been executed or sentenced to life without parole? Answer not a fellow.

    Is killing by the gun a problem in countries like Saudi Arabia and Qatar? Nope.

    The problem is we play the ass with those that go before the courts for gun related crimes, hence sending no message to the rebels out there. We passed a law years back with a fine of $250,000 for an unlicensed gun, you ever hear a fellow get charged that? NOPE

    Yes we have issues with customs and yes we are surrounded by sea, but other countries are also surrounded by water but don’t have our problem. So if we do our best to improve customs then what will we do if we still find these rebels with guns killing others, give them 4 years at Dodds?

    The whole issue needs to be properly revamped. From customs to the penalties , to the court system with its delays, all must be improved if we really want to tackle the issue.

    Talking crap about race and party will do nothing to tackle the problem, all it does is deflect away from the issue.

  24. Mariposa Avatar
    Mariposa

    Btw what level of work is Charles Herbert doing
    One can bet no employment doors in barbados has been closed to him because of having an illegal mark against his name
    However many black men caught in lesser
    Illegal crimes are walking around barbados beg for jobs
    Until the justice system pull itself up by the boot straps and deal with the source …guns and drugs would continue to create havoc in barbados

  25. Carson C Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C Cadogan

    The justice system is there for Blacks alone , everyone of a different race does not end up in prison.

    And these are the purveyors of crime.

  26. David Avatar
    David

    @John A

    Yes Yes and Yes but to compare to Saudi Arabia is equivalent to comparing to the Singapore model. Different cultures. Your focus like many is on the enforcement. although important we have to be more holistic in understanding why our level of deviance is on the increase.

  27. John A Avatar
    John A

    @David

    It is on the increase as there is no respect or fear of either the authorities or the court system it’s that simple.

    If the risk to reward ratio was waited heavy on the risk of capture and it’s consequence you think they would risk it? It’s no difference to the ZR bunch that do as they like. If the sentence for breaking the law was a $10000 fine and 6 months at Dodds you feel they would come sailing through red lights?

    If vehicles were impounded by the police in an impound yard with a $5000 fine for the release of the vehicle, you feel the owners would allow the drivers to do the crap they do? After all an impounded vehicle can’t earn money for the owner.

    All we do is talk when the answers are there and simple to implement. But you see again we politicians unlike the famous Singapore we all want to copy need the vote. So dem ain’t doing nothing to risk it, unlike Singapore who could charge you $10K USD for chewing piece of gum!

    It’s a case of talk nuff implement little and don’t risk the vote too much. You think these rebels don’t know that too? Stupes.

  28. David Avatar
    David

    @John A

    Why do this element do what they do? A lack of a robust value system? Disconnected from mainstream society? What!

  29. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    Here we go again, comparing Barbados with other nation . This time Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

    Cant we think for ourselves??????

  30. John A Avatar
    John A

    @ David.

    These guys look at it this way. I could rob a fellow at an ATM and take $1000 off him and get away with it all in 30 minutes including get away time, or go and work a 40 hour week for $400.

    To him the risk and fine if he is caught worth it as he banking on not getting caught and even if he is, the charge is nothing in his view.

    How ever you look at it when done it boils down to the same thing. The penalties are not seen as a big thing to these guys.

  31. Carson C Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C Cadogan

    The problem is simple.

    The GUNS are coming thru the containers, they are not being manufactured hare in Barbados. There are no gun factories in Barbados .

    Who do the most importing in Barbados??? Who bring the most of the containers???

    The WHITE BAJANS AND THE INDIANS. Focus on them and the problem will disappear. This inordinate fear for and excuses of these evil people is really disgusting.

    No boy on the block knows how to manufacture a range of guns and different calibers. They are buying form people who don’t look like us.

  32. David Avatar
    David

    @John A

    You are making a conclusion after the society has moulded such a person/mind. How did the person reach that stage? A good place to start is the 50 to 70% of students who exit the school system without ‘qualifications’ or see a path to being productive citizens.

  33. John A Avatar
    John A

    @ David.

    Yes that is a point too but it’s what they see from the US where the phrase ” Easy Money” came from. It’s that they see working for $400 a week being a waste of their time. Whether you blame society, peer pressure, the American influence the answer is the same. Tons of studies on this have been done in the USA, doing more here will not give us any different results.

    Whether the guns come through the ports, the fishing boats or by a flock of trained Egrets, is one side of the coin. But let me ask you this if there was no market for them would people risk to import them? Without demand supply can not exist. Remove the demand with fierce sentences and imprisonment and watch the supply dry up.

    I am not saying that we should not also beef up our customs departments as well mind you for guns and all other forms of contraband, while imposing fierce fines on any that try to import these items.

  34. David Avatar
    David

    @John A

    If there were no guns, they would use knives or make pipe guns. We have to attack the root.

  35. Hal Austin Avatar
    Hal Austin

    @ John A

    Crime causation is more complex than just boys (they are usually boys) mugging for money. That is the white police narrative, this stop and search, as we call it, or stop and frisk, as they call it in New York. They share the same racist song sheet.
    Social liberals talk about educational levels and poverty; religious people talk about finding God; moralists talk about bad influences, such as the lyrics of hip hop.
    If we are sure these simplistic reasons cause crime, then they can be wiped out to prevent it. It is why all over the world, including the wealthy US with the highest per capita rate of incarcerated people, higher even than China’s, and with most universities offering criminology courses and millions of law enforcement officers, and crime continues.
    Earlier someone used a statistic that is not true. All over the world officially crime is DECREASING, not INCREASING, even though new laws are being created almost every week – under Tony Blair in the UK we had 54 new criminal laws, including the criminalisation of anti-social behaviours, under so-called anti-social orders.
    And if a young person fails to agree an anti-social order, then it becomes a crime. It is the criminalisation of bad behaviour. Even fibbing to a woman (or man) during a chat up line is now a criminal offence in the UK.
    Crime has always been used to keep the working class in order. It is a social construct and can be put on the statute books by one government and be removed by another. In Britain they used to ship offenders out to Australia.
    Note the debate over Biden and the 1994 Crime Act. Note also the avoidance of criminalising so-called white collar crime. People with power make the laws.

  36. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    These people drive all around Barbados. They know every nook and cranny. They know who is who . who they they can approach and who they can not, ostensibly selling their clothes and shoes and tables and and what have you and what they have under their seats.

    No one stops them and searches their vehicles so they get away. Everytime.

  37. Mariposa Avatar
    Mariposa

    Silly talk about knives or pipe guns
    Furthermore where there is flourishing market for a business there is where the money would be found
    Pipe guns or whatever if could sustain a flourishing business market would have been the product of choice
    It is what the market can bear and provide financially
    Both guns and drugs go hand in hand because of a profit margin
    The underline that decide to tow it the line knows the line knows the risk involve but rather take risk to take care of themselves and family than have nothing at all

  38. John A Avatar
    John A

    @ Hal

    I accept much of what you say and we should never look at the USA as a success story in dealing with crime as they are a dismal failure. What i would do is look at places like Switzerland and Norway instead. Then look at the other approach used by places like Singapore and Qatar and find a formula that would work for us. Who knows it may be a combination of the 2 approaches.

    I don’t think the lock up and pelt away the key is the answer for all but alot of these offenders are bent on the “Easy Money” at any price. The locking up of people for little weed for instance to me is a waste of money and state funds.

    Our approach therefore does not have to be an either or one.

  39. Hal Austin Avatar
    Hal Austin

    @ Carson

    I know what you speak of, we have it here in the UK too. The other thing is employing New Barbadians in government offices who then feed information to contacts in their communities. I once objected to having Guyanese working in the land tax department and was howled down by a fellow worker.
    It is a practised art: join an office, always volunteer to do the unpopular chores, make the teas, bring in sweets for the office, etc, all currying favour.
    Once you have done that people take their eyes off you, then you can change names on documents etc. Add to that donating large sums to political parties, giving ministers children so-called gifts, wedding presents, etc. Do you remember when they wanted to replace Billie Miller with an Indian? Watch out.

  40. Carson C Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C Cadogan

    HAL

    You know this thing , certain people on this blog pretend that these people are Angels come down from heaven.

    Not all, but some of these people are wicked as hell. In certain communities they keep very quite if it is their people involved in wrong doing then give the impression that ONLY BLACK PEOPLE ARE BAD.

    And they have the gall to you, you don’t see any of us in Dodds. The reason you don’t see any of them in Dodds is because they BRIBE EVERYBODY. So these people in turn look out for these peoples welfare. Not that these they get involved Criminal activities.

  41. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    should be ‘they dont get” in the last line.

  42. Hal Austin Avatar
    Hal Austin

    @ Carson,

    You are preaching to the converted. I see it every day in London. The other problem we have are people refusing to observe the CoVid protocols. You read of spikes in rates, but not who are responsible for a high proportion of them.
    People are afraid they will be called racist to point out who are in the main the people who refuse to wear facial masks, use sanitiser or social distancing.
    Oh, by the way, ask the fraud detectives who are in the main responsible for organised mortgage frauds.

  43. David Avatar
    David

    Steuspe

  44. John A Avatar
    John A

    @david.

    Who it is this shipment of guns was coming to in barbados that got found in the USA by their customs?

  45. David Avatar
    David

    @John A

    Did the police or Customs make the information public?

  46. Tron Avatar
    Tron

    Barbados is as safe as never before. Thanks to our supreme leader Mia Mottley.

  47. John A Avatar
    John A

    @ david

    That’s what I am trying to find out as the smuggler was caught on U.S soil so didn’t know if the person the engine was coming to here was identified. I remember about a year or more ago our customs found an engine with ammunition in it consigned to a bajan as well. Wondering if it’s the same body? They like they got nuff money in car engines and you could get plenty bang for the buck, if you know who to buy from that is.

    Lord I frighten now to carry the old car to the mechanic, suppose I go and say the engine not ” firing ” good and a police hear and I get my old tail lock up! Lol

  48. Carson C Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C Cadogan

    When the opposition party was on the campaign trail, the present AG said that if there was one or two murders, then that represents one or two murders too many.

    Under his watch as present AG we have had almost 100 murders. If one or two in his estimation were too many, what do you say about 100??????

    And guns were used in most of them.

    If that count represented two white people murdered, the Earth would have been moved as we got the bottom of those murders. What does that show who is more important in Barbados???? 3% WHITE BAJAN AND INDIAN population or 97% BLACK of our population???

  49. David Avatar
    David

    @John A

    The truth is the recipient may not have been aware of the contraband if the plan was to intercept when the package landed.

  50. Sargeant Avatar
    Sargeant

    @David yours@ 5.38pm
    That is pure speculation on your part, would appreciate your adding some meat to that sandwich.

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