The William McIntosh Vs Peter Odle (second defendant) – Foreign Investor Unable to Have Case Heard Against Hotelier Peter Odle – raises the question who should be considered fit and proper to carry out duties of state. Peter Odle is a veteran hotelier who was recently appointed to the post of Chairman of the Barbados Port Authority to replace Senator Lisa Cummins. In light of the court matter lodged against him the question taxpayers must ask – is it unreasonable to ask Peter Odle to stand down as Chairman of BPI until the matter is resolved?

The blogmaster is of the view if good governance is to be seen to be practised by the government and other actors in civil society the answer is a resounding YES.

The BU blogmaster has been around long enough to understand how influence is exerted on the system by the prominent and powerful in Barbados. There is the old Bajan saying who the cow likes he licks, who he does not, he kicks. A big part of the reason Barbados and other countries are witnessing significant citizen apathy in the double standards as it pertains to how the directorate is seen to do business in the country. A robust democracy requires its citizenry to be vigilant. It is not nebulous, it required discrete behaviour from citizens.

The first blog referenced above poked at what Barbadians know, the local court system is groaning under its own weight. This is a paraphrase view shared in public by the incumbent Attorney General Dale Marshall. The McIntosh Vs Peter Odle also exposes other actors complicit in a weak governance model being practised in Barbados. Based on the documents related to the contentious matter under review this blogmaster, it is important we discover ways to examined these matters that have traditionally been swept under the carpet.

A few questions for the BU intelligentsia to discuss for 100 marks.

  1. Was Dan Rossen appointed director in Sandy Bay Holdings (2014) Inc without his knowledge? How is this possible under the Companies Act of Barbados?
  2. Did the Attorney General (AG) of Barbados reply to an email from a concerned member of the public on the 10 February 2020 citing Mr. Peter Odle allegedly making claims that the AG was advising him personally on a incident that occurred at The Sands Hotel on Saturday 8th February 2020? The incident is reported to have occurred in the presence of police officers.

The concerns and questions posed suggest our governance model is compromised. It means not only our court officers and political class are engaged in supine behaviour, it extends to other state actors. It is time the citizenry awake and accept its role of holding elected AND paid officials accountable.

The democracy we practice is described as fragile, a key check and balance must come from the citizenry cognizant of its civic responsibilities. A well worn quote from Abraham Lincoln “that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth”  was to recognized soldiers who sacrificed lives to give truth to the statement. In Barbados citizens are not required to fight wars to defend the cause of democracy – is it asking too much for Barbadians to adopt other forms of sacrifice for the greater good?

Food for thought.

364 responses to “The Peter Principle – The Peter Odle Imbroglio”


  1. @Donna September 8, 2020 8:19 AM “What David is missing is that many of the cases are not complex.
    As I said, I could have argued the case AND written and handed down the judgment in the case I sat in on.
    Could have done the research too. No rocket science necessary.”

    Stupssseee!!!!

    A friend of mine sat on a “criminal” case. Essentially one neighbor accused another neighbor of entering premises without permission. Essentially entering a home through its wide open door. and stealing a jar of hair grease.

    Yup that case which could have been settled by any old man or old woman sitting under a breadfruit tree was in criminal court.

    My friend was vex as hell. Felt that “the system” was wasting time.

    P.S. The hair grease thief was guilty as charged.


  2. @Hal,

    the english court system has moved far beyond ours. A Magistrate doesnt have to have a law degree. He/she could be a recognised person in the community (and most are) but is guided wrt law and legal precedent by clerical staff one of whom would be a lawyer.

    there all types of lawyers or rather ways to appear before the courts in the UK from barristers to solicitor to ILEX fellows.

    in addition, case management is strictly enforced in the UK. that is, handling of the case wrt to timelines for hearings, legal arguments etc. is decided beforehand and such issues are gotten out of the way before the substantive matter is argued before the Court

    we have that in Bim too. how strictly it is enforced is a matter of opinion.

    as to lawyers prosecuting instead of police. that could work but it would mean a v big DPP office. as it stands the police do an admirable job of it and many police are lawyers. if they arent they do a prosecutor’s course before they are assigned as a prosecutor.

    years ago Judges did the job well. they wrote judgments and rendered decisions as antiquated as the system was back then.

    i will always contend that the present day Judges are lazy and incompetent. yes there are others issues but by and large that is the problem.

    and like i said i am pleased with the new set of judges.


  3. @Greene

    You are talking about the Justices of the Peace. They sit as a tribunal, with the senior one as chairman. They are guided on the law by the court clerk, who must be qualified.
    In the busier magistrate courts there may also be a stipendiary magistrate, now called district judges, who are qualified lawyers. You are right about competence. As you know much better than I, magistrates can sentence for up to six months, if the sentence deserves longer they have to send the accused to the Crown Court for sentencing.
    @Greene, you may not remember, or know about this, but in the old days there used to be guys, ordinary effectively unemployed guys, who sat in the old court yard and dispensed law.
    They were not lawyers, just knowledgeable, and people who were not represented would go to them for advice. One of our more popular former diplomats’s father was one of those men.
    @Greene, we do not even have good court records.


  4. @ Greene

    Your remark about the size of the DPP’s office is not necessarily so. They can hire independent lawyers on a job basis to prosecute. The UK’s CPS do exactly that.
    As to the police, they have always used prosecuting as a stepping stone to being a lawyer. I believe the deputy DPP is a former police officer. I believe it is a perverse system. It is always the brightest and best who leave the police.
    We also had a police commissioner who had a degree in criminology. The Nation insisted on calling him a criminologist, rather than police commissioner. How clever.
    The most successful police prosecutor turned lawyer was the late Gary Sargeant. He was hugely competent and popular.

  5. Vincent Codrington Avatar
    Vincent Codrington

    @ David BU

    Where ignorance is bliss,it is folly to be wise. At least I received a dozen definitions on “intellectual capacity”. Not bad for a country with 98% literacy.
    We even received a description of a court process that has no connection with the local practice or schema for arriving at judgements in the British Commonwealth.
    What an interesting”conversation”.? In another blog I opined that if one cannot describe accurately the problem at hand one cannot solve it.
    @ dpD
    I see that you have defaulted to your old habit of reducing arguments to an absurdity. Carry on smartly, my brother!!


  6. @Hal,

    correct on all counts, altho i was referring to Lay Magistrates but it is the same as JPs.

    i think David said once that police study law a way out of the service and on that score he is correct. they are not paid enough and i have to believe this is deliberate. that is why the service is as bad and corrupt as Baje would contend it is. if you pay peanuts you attract monkeys.

    getting back to Judges- we can and must do better. Bim was once admired throughout the Caribbean as a lawful peaceful place with an effective police service and good competent lawyers and court system. now we are the laughing stock of the Caribbean.

    we dont even have a land registry where title is guaranteed as good and proper by the state and encumbrances noted? instead of this we have that crap about an unbroken chain of ownership going back 15 years as it is put. all this does is encourage lawyers to convey or divert client’s money instead of conveying the land title. it is quite frankly embarrassing. i know paralegals who could do conveyancing as good as any lawyer if not better

    and my biggest gripe about lawyers in Bim- they dont seem to know or care about client care rules. in the UK when a client engages your services they are informed about how the firm is going to proceed and what they should expect from the firm at every stage. if not the firm could face sanction. it works well in most cases. that is the reason UK bajans get ripped off by bajan lawyers. because they think the same happens in Bim. it pisses me when i hear and see the horror stories.

    the profession as noble as it once was, is rife with slimeballs of the lowest order in Bim


  7. Michael Campbell,

    True. Two different situations neither of which make sense.
    Why would that person wish the marker to overlook blatant and provablr plagiarism?

    Next time I see her I will ask her ig she took it further and what was the outcome because she was standing her ground at the time.


  8. @Vincent

    We have another problem that is easily solvable over a bowl of soup down Cattlewash.


  9. Correction- provable

  10. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @VC, reducing an argument to its absurdity is a fault in your view … in real terms it’s getting to the nut and cracking it apart!

    A judge by effect of training, experience needed to ascend to the bench and studies completed should be at the fundamental level be “intellectually” capable to issue judgements.

    …To be on the bench (in a meritocracy) is itself a clear indication of intellectual capacity!

    So I perceive it’s absurd to excuse their conduct on that basis alone or in conjunction with other problems.

    Now, whether the judgements issued are sound and well reasoned is another matter completely … THAT is a function of their capacity to employ their skills effectively and display competency at their job.

    It’s the same in all professions senor…. if u reach the standard to get in the “door” of your profession then – unless you cheated comprehensively – you have shown an intellectual capacity to understand your professional requirements … being piss poor at the job is about work ethic and competence !

  11. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    And @VC in context of what @Greene, @Donna and others have said or alluded to about lay people adjudicating matters isn’t it instructive that jurors form a key part of legal processes….

    Yes of course they determine the facts of the matter and NOT the law but what specialized intellectual skill set does one need to read law journals in search of a supporting legal principle ??

    A great jurist can either be one a wise person who has a photographic memory … thus excellent apropos case law on immediate recall for the matter at hand; or one with the excellent analytical mind/wisdom and a good PC !

    I would love the folks with the great intellectual capacity to be doing medical research or treatment of illnesses; scientific and technical innovation and such endeavors … it seems counterintuitive to me to take “superior” or even outstanding intellectual capacity and spend your days adjudicating cases based on historical precedent … law is lucrative surely but does it really need superior brain power (my interpretation of intellectual capacity).

    I gone.


  12. David,

    There is plenty of blame to go around but I maintain that the laziness of the judges is the main problem. How could you have so many cases waiting for judgement and not finish at least one in ten damn years. What do the judges do the the court is not in session?

    They remind me of the consultants at the QEH who have all the excuses for not writing a simple medical report that is half a page long.

    Cuhdear Bajan,

    Used to run into Carlisle in the law library quite often. He was a down to earth kinda guy.

    Bought my son a “Typing for Kids” CD in his primary school days. Persuaded him that he needs to learn how to sew with my cousin across the road. Cooking, cleaning, washing learnt. Swimming, self- defence, riding done. Music still ongoing. Old time dancing done loooong time. Simple budgeting, record-keeping etc. in progress. Driving put off due to COVID. Painting and handyman stuff to come. Growing food in progress.


  13. Uh-oh! Typos again! Damn phone!


  14. @ Greene

    Again you are spot on. The trouble is that we have convinced ourselves we are the best. During the building boom of the 2000s, Barbados had a maximum of about 1500 property sales.
    (I was once given the figure by the new president of the Senate, Mr Lynch, when he was executive CEO of the accountants body). It was a time when I was trying to bring a mortgage lender in to Barbados, but that was another story.
    Barbados has about 1000 registered lawyers, so that works out on an average of 1.5 conveyances a year. We all know that at the top end, the old solicitor firms and the white lawyers get most of that work and for the middle and low-end markets popular black lawyers get those.
    So it is possible that a young lawyer, on graduating from Wooding, would go years without having done a single conveyance, apart from his/her own. This means that every time they get a job they have to go back to their college notes for a step by step reminder of what to do.
    In the UK we have registered conveyancers (Ilex trained) who undertake most of that work; we also allow solicitors to compete. We come back to what I said about incompetence.
    It is fine putting on a robe and a wig and going in to a magistrate’s court defending a homeless guy for stealing a salt bread, but that is not exactly challenging.
    The legal Mafia has such a strong grip on our system that no government can break up its stranglehold. The result is that the people suffer. It is a legal culture of mediocrity.
    Barbados is a failed state.


  15. @Dee Word

    Why are you debating a non point? When determining if a applicant is fit for the job, the competence to use the word being tossed around considera academic qualifications, body of decisions, soft skills and a host of other measurements to determine the intellectual capacity of the candidate. This blogmaster does not define intellectual capacity only on the basis of academic achievement.


  16. David,

    how about family name and or connections?


  17. @Greene

    Nepotism is a scourge that runs deep in our small islands.


  18. @Donna

    Fair enough, all views must contend.


  19. #DpD
    I am getting up to speed but
    Reductio ad absurdum is a tool that is used in many mathematical proofs.

    You are in good company.


  20. “Bought my son a “Typing for Kids” CD in his primary school days. Persuaded him that he needs to learn how to sew with my cousin across the road. Cooking, cleaning, washing learnt. Swimming, self- defence, riding done. Music still ongoing. Old time dancing done loooong time. Simple budgeting, record-keeping etc. in progress.”

    Too few Olympic sports are mentioned… Curling, ice skating, …


  21. I suspect he will run away 😃


  22. @Dullard
    We know your standing position on matters that throw shade at Barbados. Who can accuse the blogmaster with a straight face about defending incompetence.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Lol. Touché, David, touché. But why accuse the Dullard of an anti-Barbados bias?

    Pull up a chair and let’s have an adult conversation. The question on the table is, “What is the root cause of the deplorable [and worsening] state of the local legal ecosystem. The dysfunction includes – and is evidenced by – but is not limited to, crooked lawyers operating with impunity; misplaced files; indefensible fees; dysfunctional courts; poor judgements; questionable bail system; inconsistent application of law; etc.

    Now, the Dullard maintains that the root cause of all these is incompetence; e.g in execution, management, training and/ or processes.

    All the dysfunction can be traced back to some incompetent persons or practices within the system.


  23. Hal and others have correctly diagnosed the problem as incompetence and not corruption.

    To leave it there is similar to being told you have diabetes and nothing more.

    What is the cause, doctor?
    What is the cure, doctor?
    What behaviors must I change?

    We already know the patient is sick. Repeating it brings us no closer to a solution.


  24. @Hal Austin September 8, 2020 11:45 AM “@Greene, you may not remember, or know about this, but in the old days there used to be guys, ordinary effectively unemployed guys, who sat in the old court yard and dispensed law.
    They were not lawyers, just knowledgeable, and people who were not represented would go to them for advice. One of our more popular former diplomats’s father was one of those men.”

    Indeed.

    i was told by my parents that Van Roland Edwards, he who in 1966 wrote the music to our national anthem, and who was blind, and who raised two daughter’s on his own when his wife died when the girls were very young, was what was called in those days a “fireside lawyer” a person who offered good advice to accused inthe District E courtyard, up the hill from Speightstown, who could not afford a real-real lawyer. I had the pleasure of meeting Mr. Edwards. He was a gentleman too

    Musician, single father of girl children, fireside lawyer. No incompetence there.


  25. @ Theo

    The causes and cures have been discussed many times on BU. The problem is that there are not the cures most people want. The first cause is the Barbadianisation of every position, whatever the competence of the favourite person. The cure is to open our top positions to eligible people from around the world. By bringing in new blood with new ideas the system would naturally improve.
    The other flaw in the system is having generation after generation teaching from the same notes about the same things and interpreting them in the same way. I will give two examples with which I am familiar: financial economics and legal theory.
    The economics discussed publicly in Barbados, by academics, and others, is the economics of the 1960s. I have said that many times on BU, including the nonsense about foreign reserves.
    Each succeeding generation comes along, with their UWI diploma, and believe they have discovered the wheel. Just read the newspapers and you will see they go back to the same people over and over again and ask the same questions and get the same answers. It is collective insanity.
    Now let us look at legal theory. This is often misconstrued as case law, advocacy, etc a total misunderstanding of what legal theory is and how it feeds in to law-making.
    A good example is that of the theory of eminent domain and the confiscation of Ms Ram’s property by the state to be sold on to a private developer under the mistaken guise of urban development. It is wrong in policy and wrong in legal theory.
    These are positive criticisms, meant to assist in overall improvements, eve if the politicians will reduce it to some party politics..


  26. @David
    Each time I access this blog a pdf file opens titled “Caribbean Justice” a needs assistance


  27. @ David and Sargeant,

    Same happens to me


  28. @Sargeant and Hants

    Should be fixed now (created a hyperlink), there is a bug in the BU theme, it was reported but WordPress not taking on a shithole blog.


  29. Thanks.

  30. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @David, re “Why are you debating a non point?”

    I wondered the VERY same thing, bro and therefore my statements above.

    I did not read ALL the posts so maybe I misinterpreted the post by @VC which was were I first saw the issue of “intellectual capacity ” … and thought it ludicrous.

    So if it was raised earlier and he was actually debunking that position then I misconstrued his argument.

    For the record I complety agree that being on the bench is somewhat ‘ipso facto’ of a level of academic or intellectual capacity thus it really shouldn’t be raised re the slow process of preparing the judgements.

    I gone… gone.


  31. TheO,

    I forgot ironing still to come.

    Run away? I threatened to throw him out on his eighteenth birthday. He mekking lil money and tink he is man. Waved me away yesterday talking about his client requires confidentiality. I told him he can’t even sign a contract without me and so there is no such thing as confidentiality from me.

    Imagine waving me away in my own damn house. Got to be joking!


  32. @ Donna,

    You could cut your son some slack. I don’t think he was negotiating a drug deal.

    I get the impression from you that he is meaningfully employed.


  33. It will only get worse.😃

    Can you imagine him claiming to be independent; in college, no job, in an apartment and with no scholarship/loan.

    ( 😃Note to Lawson.. we have not yet received the first welfare check😀).

    Several times I begged my wife to let me teach him what independence really means but the ‘we have only one child’ rule is enforced by her. I think it means… if you know what is good for you, you would leave him alone.

    Do you allow your son to use words and do not hold him to the exact meaning?

  34. Vincent Codrington Avatar
    Vincent Codrington

    @ Hants

    Donn’a’s son is behaving as we expect. He is the male version of her. By the way, that is properly /independently.


  35. Questions for the Blog master and others. Please answer the questions
    What is the charge against mr Odle ?
    What crime has he been accused of committing ? Is it a civil case or a criminal case ? Should all persons who have civil cases pending be made to put their lives on hold?


  36. How is asking Odle to stand down from accepting the role as chair of the Board of BPI putting his life on hold?


  37. What is the charge ?why should he stand down ?


  38. You can do better by answering my questions


  39. The blogmaster’s opinion is stated on the blog, you are free to agree or disagree.


  40. From a co-worker:

    Good day, after reading these comments I must add my two cents worth, first I work for Mango Bay Hotel and I want to personally thank Mr. Peter Odle for
    1 Paying us on the last day of the month after 5 or sometimes the next day.
    2 For paying in our Bank Fastcash & Credit Union payments some of us were refused loans just because of that practice.
    3 Thanks for the flooded walkways at Island Inn, the broken toilet seats in the staff quarters at Mango Bay Hotel & the Horrible conditions at the laundry (Where are health inspectors when you need one).
    4 Thanks for our Tips and gifts left to us by you guests that we never get.
    5 Thanks for feeding your 100 horses before paying your staff members, no wonder people don’t stay in your accounts department after they realize what you do.
    6 Thanks for your HR managers who turn they phones off not wanting to answers questions over severance which you have said you will not pay.
    7 Thank for reaching out to your vulnerable staff members during this COVID-19 pandemic who are still waiting on unemployment.
    The next time you hold a meeting look around the room and ask yourself if we really believe the crap you are pushing the Hon. Colin Jordan is not there to lie for you anymore.


  41. What all of that got to do with the dude known for TIEFING PEOPLE’S MONEY…..so you are okay with him TIEFING FROM OTHER’S TO PAY YOU…GTFOH…come back when ya can see reality…


  42. Mr Spikes
    Everyone always fighting Mr Odle to get paid. Excuse after excuse he makes, everyone knows that. His staff will tell you.
    He owes money to the Irishman and he should pay instead of using political connections to delay and bad mouthing people all the while.
    Talk to Mr Ekoku – someone not scared by Mr Odle (and so handsome😊) Read his letter and you see the whole truth. Staff shocked government keeps pushing Mr Odle. Why????????


  43. The mind of a slave =

    don’t mind that their ancestors and themselves and their future generations are treated like second class citizens in a country they and their ancestors built, funded and still do..as long as they get something out of it, even if that something keeps them in generational poverty:

    they don’t mind other people being ROBBED as long as they get paid out of that theft:

    they don’t mind their people being oppressed, exploited and suppressed as long as they get something out of it:

    they don’t mind the trash in minority business community practice racism against them and their children and grandchildren as long as they get something out of it…just like the 4th rate government ministers and lawyers:

    they don’t mind opportunities being stolen from them and given to everyone else as long as they get something out of it:

    they don’t mind their treasury and pension fund being robbed billions of dollars by their tiefing government ministers and the trash for minorities, as long as something small is thrown at them:

    they don’t mind the racist dependency tourism industry keeping them in financial bondage and stagnated indefinitely as long as they get a low-paying shite job that keeps them in generational povery:

    that is the true definition of a colonial slave society…and they will ALWAYS BE SLAVES.


  44. We all saw this and loved it

    18th May 2020

    FAO: Mr. Peter Odle
    Director, Sandy Bay Holdings (2104) Inc/The Sands

    SENT BY EMAIL & HAND DELIVERED TO: THE SANDS – WORTHING, CHRIST CHURCH & MANGO BAY HOTEL – SECOND STREET, HOLETOWN, ST JAMES

    Dear Mr Odle,

    RE: OUTSTANDING COMPANY DEBTS – SANDY BAY HOLDINGS (2014) INC / THE SANDS

    You act as Chairman of Sandy Bay Holdings (2014) Inc, (the “Company”), which owns The Sands.

    I note the following, for the record:

     the Company has failed to make payment for the repurchase of shares as per agreement executed on 11th October 2017 (the “Share Repurchase Agreement”);

     you, on behalf of the Company, have cited a variety of reasons at different times over the past 2yrs and 4months to explain failure to deliver on the obligations entered into; and

     despite this failure/inability to pay monies owed, the Company
    [i] refuses to disclose information on its financial affairs to shareholders – as requested through their attorney in January 2020 – in accordance with the laws of Barbados; and
    [ii] refuses to update the share register of the Company to reflect reassignment of the “Trust Shares” (namely: 22.66% held in the name of Peter Odle on behalf of shareholders) for shareholders to use as is their entitlement;

     This is unacceptable and highly irregular Mr Odle.

    An experienced company Chairman like yourself understands that it is not unreasonable for creditors and investors to expect the Company to honour its debts in a timely manner. Do you dispute this?

    Unfortunately, instead of addressing the Company’s obligations, you have opted to peddle a mis-information narrative – one that is very different from documented facts.

    Executed documents do not lie Sir, and attempts to escape contracted obligations appear to be driven by desperation – or other objectives which should be beneath the position you represent yourself to be.

    Either way, it is high time that the Company pays its debts. And, it is also time for you to show some integrity and cease all actions being committed in the name of the Company that are certainly dishonourable and possibly insidious.

    Mr Odle, be absolutely assured that there is not, nor has there ever been, any conspiracy against the Company or yourself. People simply want to get paid, for what has been lawfully agreed between parties, and move on with their lives.
    You should also remember that this entire process began with your approach to buy from shareholders, not shareholders approaching you to sell. Further, the Share Repurchase Agreement was prepared by attorneys acting for the Company (not the shareholders) under your instruction.

    The Company must now:

    1) pay all sums owed to shareholders, as follows:

    a. Ekoku: the aggregate sum of BBD$2,475,344 (less 700k deposit received on execution) – plus 2-bed condo unit at The Sands; and

    b. Bradford: the aggregate sum of BBD$1,026,358 (less 400k deposit received on execution) – plus 3-bed condo unit at The Sands.

    2) repay monies owed to Mr Alan McIntosh (Irish investor) who lent the money to buy the shares from shareholders – a loan secured by you personally
    (to date, you have omitted to disclose that a separate court action brought by Mr McIntosh against you, for unpaid loan repayments related to The Sands, was successfully settled in his favour in the Royal Court of Guernsey); and

    3) settle debts to other private individuals owed money by the Company since December 2017. You have, since November 2018, refused to respond to creditor communications; despite various written and verbal promises from you and your representatives prior to.

    Should you disagree with, or dispute, any part of the content of this email, I invite you to take legal action against me. There are no “alternative facts” Mr Odle and I would welcome this matter being settled swiftly and efficiently in the Law Courts of Barbados.

    Your legal representatives should liaise with Ms. Tara Frater of FT Legal to detail how you intend to settle outstanding financial matters.


  45. Sorry to hear about your experiences with Mr Odle as your employer
    Still waiting for answers though
    Should the fact that my brother and I are involved in a civil matter exclude me from being appointed to a position


  46. Could be but Mr Odle the one making it a police matter and we all caught up in it and feeling embarrassed that Bajans made to look like dishonest people.

  47. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @Spikes, you are being a lil disingenuous.

    Short answer to your query re “Should the fact that my brother and I are involved in a civil matter exclude me from being appointed to a [Public] position” is YES!

    In this case u or ur brother are involved in a contentious financial matter where the accusation in simply terms is fraud (i.e. basically converting funds to wrongful use) and other investment/business wrong-doings.

    The situation is contentious and speaks directly to matters of character, judgement and propriety involved of a public appointment … it would be wise for both you and the PM to respect the public enough and let someone else not so legally compromised be chairman.

    If you were involved in a civil bankruptcy filing would it be OK for you to accept an appointment to any Board… in short, please go and do whatever you want in your private life but there must be some higher duty of care (basic decency and political awareness) in seeking public office!

    Anyhow, enough of dat.


  48. Hants,

    The problem was the imperial wave away not the fact that he wanted to be private. I keep telling him there is a way to do things. The cell phone is mobile. He could have NONCHALANTLY walked away. I would have thought nothing of it. I was not intent on listening to his conversation. I am certain it was no drug deal.

    Point is – NOBODY waves me away from my own living room. You have your room. Use it!

    P.S. It is a fledgling business for which I provided the training, the start up equipment and the initial advertising. I still financially support him in all ways except pocket money. From now on he will be responsible for his own equipment and advertising.

    Vincent,

    In many ways he is the male version of me but these young people just don’t get that there is a way to assert your independence without appearing disrespectful. Whether or not you mean it that way is irrelevant. What matters is how it is perceived by the parent. Generation gaps have to be respected. I did not have him at twenty and so he needs to remember that and act accordingly.


  49. TheO,

    Independent is when yuh fully supporting yuhself. PERIOD.

    Until then I am the parent and you are the dependent. Age appropriate freedoms will be respected but parental guidance must also be respected.

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