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Dr.Mahabir
Submitted by Dr Kumar Mahabir

On her Facebook page, well-known ruling People’s National Movement’s (PNM’s) political activist, Juliet Davy, of Trinidad and Tobago, created and shared a blood-curdling video recently.

No one in the mainstream media even made reference to it except for an Afro Opposition United National Congress (UNC) radio talk show host, Barrington “Skippy” Thomas. The video was captured for posterity by a UNC activist, Garth Christopher, who is racially-mixed (25/6/20).

Not even a single Indo-Trinidadian made a public comment, except for journalist Niala Maharaj who has been living in the Netherlands for the past 40 years.

On her blog (30/6/20), Maharaj wrote: Between the BLM [Black Lives Matter] movement and electioneering in Trinidad, Indian-bashing is getting to be the new normal on Facebook. No one blinked an eye last week when a video repeatedly made the rounds with a PNM activist urging ‘Africans’ to jump over the walls of Indian-owned properties, rush into their houses, and ‘deal with them’.

The majority of Afros (Africans) support the PNM while mainly Indos (Indians) back the UNC.

Are Indians really docile and afraid to speak out, even those in the UNC against whom the threat was made specifically? No leader in the PNM distanced the party from, and denounced the violent incitement of Davy.

I instantly reported the matter to Commissioner of Police Gary Griffith via his Facebook page but I did not even receive the courtesy and comfort of an acknowledgement. He is known to scan and respond to every shadow that jumps at him on social media. Beyond a shadow doubt, Davy has committed a seditious act and she should have been investigated, arrested and charged.

A seditious act

The Sedition Act (1920, last amended in 1976) states that a seditious intention is a plan to engender or promote (i) feelings of ill-will or hostility between one or more sections of the community on the one hand and any other section or sections of the community on the other hand; or (ii) feelings of ill-will towards, hostility to or contempt for any class of inhabitants of Trinidad and Tobago distinguished by race, colour, religion, profession, calling or employment (Section 3).

A person is guilty of an offence who has been found to have communicated any statement having a seditious intention. Subject to Subsection (3), a person guilty of an offence under this section is liable (a) on summary conviction to a fine of three thousand dollars AND to imprisonment for two years; or (b) on conviction on indictment to a fine of twenty thousand dollars AND to imprisonment for five years.

Is the Black-dominated Police Service (TTPS) racially and politically biased? In April last year, the police, led by Inspector Wayne Stanley, executed a search warrant at Radio and TV Jaagriti for an audio-visual clip. In the clip, the late Hindu and Indian civil rights leader, Sat Maharaj, is reported to have said that Tobagonians are lazy and the men are rapists. The matter went to court.

Sat’s stereotypical description pales in comparison to that of Davy’s violent instigation: “Is many of you holding it back; many of you holding back. … What we really need to tell them is how they mother really make them. That is what we really need to tell them … We suppose to jump over they fence, run up inside they house, hold them, and deal with them seriously.”

In August last year, Opposition Minority Leader in Tobago, Watson Duke, was arrested for a speech he had made in 2018. As part of the speech, Duke reportedly said: “I am sending the message clear. Let [PNM leader] Rowley them know that the day they come for us in WASA, we are prepared to die and the morgue would be picking up people.”

Duke was arrested, charged for sedition and released on TT$250,000 bail while Davy remains unscathed.

Hinds unscathed

On a political platform in Mafeking Junction, Mayaro, on November 16, 2016, PNM Minister Fitzgerald Hinds urged his mainly Afro audience supporters:

I said to my colleagues, as a younger parliamentarian then, I said the UNC is badly wounded. We need to finish them out. Kill them dead. I want you to understand that on November 28 [local elections day], you have the opportunity to drive a PNM balisier deep into the hearts of the wicked UNC vampires. Take a stake with a balisier on top and drive it deep within their heart and finish them off once and for all.”

His audience howled: “RAYYY!”

Hinds has never been questioned by the police, arrested or charged for sedition for having publicly expressed “feelings of ill-will or hostility” against a section of the community (The Sedition Act, Section 3 (i) and (ii)).

As with Davy, no leader in the PNM has distanced the party from, and denounced his hateful and violent racial and political instigation.


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98 responses to “Indian Lives do not Matter – violent incitement against Indians”


  1. Stupse! This man is no fan of black people. I don’t know why we continue to give him a space here. This article is the height of hypocrisy.


  2. @enuff

    Are you not interested in the Guyana and T&T societies given the ethnic compositipon?


  3. Go read the comments on trini newspaper pages to see how Indian supporters of the UNC see black people.


  4. @enuff

    This is the point of posting it!


  5. EnuffJuly 6, 2020 8:25 PM

    Go read the comments on trini newspaper pages to see how Indian supporters of the UNC see black people.

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    … or go to Chicago and see how black people see other black people.


  6. Steuspe


  7. If you do decide to go to Chicago you had better do it quick.

    It may not have many black people left for you to find if you leave it too long..


  8. Relics like you will be left behind. You are an embarrassment to the cause:


  9. Los Angeles is pretty bad tou.


  10. Saw this is my facebook feed as it is definitely going viral as it should.

    BAJANS you CANNOT be passive and docile when these people make statements like this. You do have a choice to spend your money where it is respected. The action each and every bajan can take today which will definitely work is to identify every possible business that is owned by the poster and simply galvanise and do not spend your money there. The one language these people always understand is money. So instead or abundance, show them scarcity and spend your money elsewhere. No need to wait for reparations or some other action for others to do. Take action yourselves and protest with your spending power.

    Can’t always be a doormat


  11. @David
    I think PLT dealt with Peter Webster well but I think you can see the level of hatred and disrespect for African people that is entrenched in the minds of some of the white supremacists here in Barbados. Imagine speaking that way about the majority population when you’re in a minority of less than 3%.


  12. @Tee White

    The crypto racism accepted for years to satisfy the establishment not wanting to rock the boat is finished. The boat has sailed and people like Kohn and Webster will be left behind to wallow in their tub of bigotry.


  13. Who is this Webster creature? What a silly surface analysis! Reminds me of the ramblings John Knox who pretends not to understand the connection between, poverty, disenfranchisenent, desperation and violence.

    There are forces at work beyond what this Webster creature wishes to acknowledge.


  14. Oops! The hazards of posting so early in the morning! A re-read of PLT ‘s post showed that the racist
    Webster was knocked to the canvas and was lying SENSELESS. There was no need for me to address him.

    This is nothing but an attempt to scare us into accepting status quo. He knows some weaklings like Grenville Phillips II are frightened to step out boldly, believing we don’t have what it takes.

    That, more than any other belief, has been our downfall.


  15. Soo….. fighting against racism or reversing the effects of racism is according to non blacks, a racist act.

    Is it also murder when one kills an attacker who is trying to kill you?


  16. I guess it is also stealing when one reclaims the goods that were stolen from one???

    Pretzel logic always leaves its users tied up in knots.


  17. What these people are really saying is that black people have no right to self defence.


  18. I lived in Trinidad for ten years. Dr Kumar Mahabir seemed to have forgotten how Satnarayan Maharaj the Hindu extremist and racist (who operated out of the “Red Spot” in Curepe) categorized blacks.


  19. Peter Webster seemed to have forgotten that the owners of the sugar industry really did not look to the future .Did not seek to exploit derivatives from cane to any extent. Then there was the exploitation at every level of the industry from growing to export by a clique intent on gouging out the industry for personal gains. Having said the above, the several governments haven’t handled the situation any better. They did not seem to have a clue after opting for tourism.


  20. The chairman of BU is a very strange man. Here is a black-focussed blog and he thinks he is being fair and pluralistic to give a racist idiot space to insult black people.
    Would Jews have given Hitler space to invite them to the gas chamber? Numerous people, from all persuasions, have raised this issue, but the chairman continues on his merry way. It reinforces my suggestion that BU might well be a front for someone or some institution.
    After ten years, no obvious monetising, then the product must be those who come on the blog to debate. It gives the cyber crime experts access to IPs and it keeps the security services busy compiling files on suspects. There is no other logical reason for allowing this offensive Hindu nationalist, as near to a repugnant Fascist as you can get, on to a black blog.


  21. When minorities become successful in business
    majorities can be stirred up to become resentful.

    Whispered words into an ear can make racial and spiritual divide bigger.
    People become Cowboys and Indians and you have to pick a side.

    “There will come a time when the world is ready for me, when nation will battle nation, when race will devour race, when brother will kill brother until not a soul is left. Are you ready?”

  22. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    @ Robert Lucas
    “ July 7, 2020 7:06 AM

    “I lived in Trinidad for ten years. Dr Kumar Mahabir seemed to have forgotten how Satnarayan Maharaj the Hindu extremist and racist (who operated out of the “Red Spot” in Curepe) categorized blacks.“

    You are absolutely correct. These frauds engage in all kinds of discrimination but they can give and not tek as we say. All of these Caribbean countries are going to transition and the final stage must be the redistribution of wealth and creating progressive opportunities for Blacks .But first, we must hold the Black political managerial class feet to the fire. We must not allow them to get in bed with white , Indian and other groups when it is convenient for them to do so.
    Marcus Garvey spoke about the “ enemy within” and we must not be ashamed to call them out.
    We find them like flies on molasses sucking up to the traditional corporate elites , exposing themselves like some entertainment show rather than look after the basic needs of the people.
    It’s a new day and those who can’t stand the heat must be chased out of the kitchen. We cannot allow another two or three generations to work for less than $300 per week and the poor blacks to be carrying the weight each and every time. Fire going to bun the downpressors and those who using political power and social prestige to continuously undermine the completion of the independence project.


  23. I am thinking about the costs of the loss of liberty and life of our enslaved ancestors during the crime of slavery. I am astounded that those who continue to benefit from this crime have the gall to publicly propose the continued subjugation of an entire people for the financial benefit of the few. Young bajans, educated at great expense through the public treasury must move away from the dehumanising exploitation embraced by the Peter Webster model and embrace an unselfish search for economic activity which promotes the humanity that we all share, no matter how hard that may be.


  24. robert lucasJuly 7, 2020 7:12 AM

    Peter Webster seemed to have forgotten that the owners of the sugar industry really did not look to the future .

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    Look at the sugar output and you will find quite the opposite.

    The owners of the sugar industry through investment in technology moved the industry from an output of 10,000 tons during and after slavery to an output of 200,000 tons in the 50’s and 60’s.

    They invested in Trinidad and Guyana with boundless water and land.

    They overcame the handicap of depending on wind energy, lack of water to create steam and a limited acreage to do it..

    Most sugar factories were self sufficient in water.

    Vaucluse for example had no well but through sheer genius water was harvested throughout the year and husbanded once extracted from cane.

    However the fact remains that even at 200,000 tons, the output was a drop in the ocean of the world supply of sugar.

    There was no way the capital could be raised to get into sugar refining, or sugar derivatives.

    But it could be raised to diversify out of sugar.

    The Deep Water Harbour and QEH and various Hotel projects undertaken by the owners of the sugar industry are testimony to their ingenuity.

    Their contribution to the well being of the island is there for anyone who cares to look to see.

    Read the article by Robert Goddard published in the William and Mary Journal and you will appreciate just what happened to the sugar industry.


  25. The Deep Water Harbour and QEH and various Hotel projects undertaken by the owners of the sugar industry are testimony to their ingenuity…(Quote)

    ?????????


  26. The Deep Water Harbour and QEH were built by slave-freeing Quakers. What wonderful people.


  27. Look at it this way, you are Black and come to a Black focussed blog every day to lavish insults on fellow Black commenters including the blogmaster. You have zero credibility in the issue at hand. If you do not agree or want to read the submission, move to Rh long. You can have the last word.

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  28. This guy is interesting.


  29. Spot on this time, Dr. Lucas!


  30. DavidJuly 7, 2020 7:53 AM

    Look at it this way, you are Black and come to a Black focussed blog every day to lavish insults on fellow Black commenters including the blogmaster. You have zero credibility in the issue at hand. If you do not agree or want to read the submission, move to Rh long. You can have the last word.

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    Are these the sentiments of a racist?


  31. That Webster has the gall to say these things straight to our face tells you the depth of the problem of racism in our country. If we had handled things right from day one he would never dare insult us so. So we have oursleves to blame. Let’s put it right now so that the future generations don’t have to go through this sh*t any more.

  32. Vincent Codrington Avatar
    Vincent Codrington

    @ John at 7:41 AM

    It is my humble opinion that you are misleading BU household. You need to revisit the sources on which you based your conclusions. The QEH and the Deep Water Harbour were not the products of the fertile minds of the owners of the plantations. The BLP under Grantley Adams had to fight the establishment all the way to completion. We owe it to posterity to be accurate.

  33. Vincent Codrington Avatar
    Vincent Codrington

    @ David BU
    I hope it is coming home to the BU Household that it is not the colour of the skin that matters but the state of mind. For racism to be effective there have to be a victim and a victor. They both have to cooperate for it to be a success.We should look beyond colour and listen very carefully to what a commenter says and how he says it.


  34. @Vincent

    In a ideal world yes.


  35. The blogmaster has been labeled worse.

  36. Vincent Codrington Avatar
    Vincent Codrington

    @ David Bu

    We are aiming for an “Ideal World ” are we not ? We may fail to reach it.but reaching an almost “Ideal World” Is good enough. Very few shooters get a perfect score in order to be considered a marksman.


  37. @Vincent

    We agree, an ideal world is the end point- living life is in between.

    >


  38. @Vincent
    I think you overestimate the power of John’s words. I think most people see through him like a window and he has very little, if any, power to mislead. Best ignored I think.

  39. Felicia Doughtz Avatar
    Felicia Doughtz

    @Robert Lucas 7:06 a.m., Dr. Kumar Mahabir (UNC) is the author of Satnarayan Maharaj’s fake autobiographical fluff piece, referring to him as a “Hindu (Brahmin-ist) Civil rights” leader. THEY ARE THE
    S-A-M-E !!!


  40. Oh dear! Not trying to go off track and there is no need to comment but that idiot Bolsanaro from Brazil has finally managed to catch himself some COVID. Wonder if he will have Boris Johnson moment.

  41. Felicia Doughtz Avatar
    Felicia Doughtz

    Fun Fact : Juliet Davy, is a UNC creation. She was a long time UNC activist from 1995, until Kamla’s term 2010-2015, Juliet was typically mistreated and DEFECTED to PNM activist role she now occupies! She detailed the racist abuses and maipulations of the UNC Brahmin-ist/Hindu party she slaved against her ethnic group’s interests for. They have been trying to HANG her ever since in the media! Those “Africans” you see and are mentioned/ shown are UNC/INDIAN Loyalists!!
    Garth Christopher- In 2011, the then UNC PP COP government, and their slaves (MSJ TOP NJAC) , in response to rising discontent with government racism and theft scandals, decided to neutralise african talk show hosts programmes. Harvey Burris, a former diplomat and PNM Host, worked at power 102 fm in Trinidad (Owned by a chinese UNC ) and had a evening programme titled “Solutions” followed by Richard Noray, another African PNM member. The then government aligned management, facilitated, the forcing of “Co-hosts” (babysitters, obstructionists) to these well established programmes.They placed Garth Christopher, on Harvey’s “Solutions” programme, and SIEWDATH PERSAD, a Brahmin-ist/Hindu UNC (husband of chutney singer Drupatee Ramgoonai and cousin of Kamla PERSAD-Bissessar) on Richard Noray’s programme. It was beyond despicable… every day, any attempt to discuss and address, the horrific instances of the then Kamla Led government’s racism against african people or corruption, Garth Christopher and Siewdath Persad, wouldliterally interject and spin or force the discussion off topic!Even everyday, general public instances of indian anti-african racism was forcibly spun and or curtailed by talking over the original hosts! Dr. Kumar Identified Garth Christopher as mixed-race (African/Indian) why didn’t he use the common, racially abusive brahmin-ist/Hindu term “Doogala” to describe him? So, when the brahmin-ist/hindu, Indian party has state power, they send a brahmin-ist/hindu indian man, and a partially indian man, (both UNC operatives) to DICTATE to two AFRICAN MEN:
    (1) What is racism, and when/ if they can talk about it
    (2) What is corruption, and when/if they can talk about it

    This is how Brahmin-ist/hindu and indian culture views power!!
    Pay attention to how mouth frothed, the idea of global anti racism protests make “Dr.” Kumar Mahabir. He’s also leading the pushback AGAINST removing the statues of racist white colonists he calls “Heroes”

    I for one can’t wait until they sufficiently bump up their population numbers in barbados through children and immigration…I can’t wait! They’re already working on it!


  42. Vincent CodringtonJuly 7, 2020 9:35 AM

    @ John at 7:41 AM

    It is my humble opinion that you are misleading BU household. You need to revisit the sources on which you based your conclusions. The QEH and the Deep Water Harbour were not the products of the fertile minds of the owners of the plantations. The BLP under Grantley Adams had to fight the establishment all the way to completion. We owe it to posterity to be accurate.

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    Vincent

    Grantley Adams was a passenger.

    Been through all this already but here it is in a nutshell.

    After the WWII world sugar output had been reduced to 50% of what it was prior to WWII.

    Europe was out, Russia was out, the Pacific countries were out.

    Sugar was rationed for years after WWII in England and America.

    Price was high and demand was high.

    Barbados ramped up its output to 200K in 1957 however, there was no bulk handling capability.

    The mother country decreed that a Deep water Harbour with bulk handling capability be built.

    It was built out of the profits of the sugar windfall after WWII.

    It had absolutely nothing to with Grantley Adams … whatsoever.

    Containerisation came on stream in this era for which the Deep Water Harbour was also purpose built.

    Grantley Adams was a passenger who happened to be around at the time.

    QEH arose out of health issues of the population.

    If you pass you will see the image of a mother and child on the wall … there was a reason for that.

    Grantley Adams was humbled by Dr. Humby in the 50’s and ended up kicking him out of the colony.

    It was the sugar windfall post WWII that built the Deep Water Harbour with its bulk handling capabilities and the QEH.

    BTW, no Quakers I know of at the time, but most of the men and women who did the building were of Quaker ancestry.


  43. @ Vincent

    Plse. The man is bonkers. Just ignore him. Let those who want to rant take him on.


  44. This is why I agreed with PLT that the slave trade and plantation life had an indelible impact on the society today and on every facet of life.

    Corruption and dishonest people, whether politicians or business, are the other negative impact. Irrespective of race.

    Which is why I take people as they are, not race first. Unlike some.

    I despair on this.


  45. @ Crusoe

    We cannot be selective about the impact of slavery on contemporary society. There is a strong movement for the removal of the Nelson statue, but the St Michael’s Cathedral was built by slaves for the slave-owning Anglican church. Are we going to demolish it? How about Codrington College?
    Most important of all, how about the descendants of the slave-owning ‘coloured’ people? Do they too have to pay reparations? Or are we giving them a free pass?


  46. There is no comparison from your comment to Lord Nelson statue positioned in HEROES SQUARE.

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  47. Hal AustinJuly 7, 2020 12:19 PM

    @ Vincent
    “Plse. The man is bonkers. Just ignore him. Let those who want to rant take him on.”

    Good advice. A few blogs ago, about a month or two, he said the freed slaves took Quaker names because Quakers were good people and he did a search and lots of the slave names were Quakers. In his attempt to rewrite history, he forgot to mention that the slaves had no rights and were give the last name of the owners. So that when a slave ran away they were always sent back to their Quaker owners. After emancipation, the plantation owners continued this practice and refused to hire free men from other plantations thus carrying on their slave practices. John thinks he is the only person who can read. He reads but does not seem to understand.
    No one picked him up on that blatant lie.
    A Barbados scholar who went to some little insignificant college in Northern England, probably run by Quakers, when he could have gone to ivy league, the Oxbridges, Queens Belfast, McGill, UBC, UofT, etc. or some other respectable university where he would have been taught to think and question.
    I don’t reply to anything that racist red leg writes.


  48. @Dame Bajans

    Ignore the nonsense about Harrison College and a Barbados Scholarship. That is an exam for 19 yr olds. @John simply has not grown up. According to him, he studied maths. It is not an analytical discipline. On the Quaker myth, have you noticed he now talks about Christians/Quakers.
    Quakers were some of the biggest slave owners in the US.

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