The Law and Protecting the Elderly – Managing by Default

Submitted by a Concerned Party (updated 1/07/2020 7:33PM)

In the High Court of Judicature CV#333 of 2019 – When losing is winning big

The law.
A dear elderly friend mentioned to me some difficulties he was experiencing at the hands of his children together with their mother, his ex-wife, I realised it was elder abuse immediately but especially flagrant abuses of his civil liberties.
He wanted to get his attorney to conduct or change some business but was being prevented from so doing.  Since I was well known to the household I told him I will inquire for him but would need his permission. I however made an appointment with my attorney and called him saying I’ll pick him up the next day to take him to the attorney.  When I arrived the next day his daughter was there with him and asked what the mission was about. I ignored the question. This was 2017.
I visited the Welfare/Probation Department and complained. They said he has to make the complaint himself. I went to the Police but they said the same thing. Called the US Embassy they said the same thing. They further said that they have to respect the laws in the host country and there were none that empowered them to intervene.
Bound and in disbelief I consulted an attorney who said there were no elder abuse laws in Barbados but I could bring the case under Neglect or  such but advised that unless they get instructions directly or a written authorization they couldn’t take the case.  No attorney would take the case or bring a case unless the elderly give direct instructions.
I continued to monitor the situation. But subsequent visits the daughter was always very in the midst of us so that no personal or private conversation could be conducted. It is unacceptable that there is not one authority in Barbados that can move in and protect the elderly that are being abused either physically or financially or civilly or sexually or psychologically except the elder makes that complaint themselves.
So what was very peculiar in this instance was the hostage effect. The elder was barred from using the telephone he pays for or visiting or being visited by anyone outside those who bought the talk that he is senile or suffers (incurable) from Alzheimer’s. Everyone is warned that he doesn’t know what he is saying so they let sleeping dogs lie.
There is apathy when dealing with the elderly too. Its as though they have passed their “use by date”. While visiting the Probation Department I collected literature on Elder Abuse under the UN Human Rights Convention. I decided that I would bite the bullet and get some action on this elderly’s behalf using this Law.
I filed a case in the High court in March of 2019 with an emergency application seeking among other orders, primarily a Protection Order and Partial-Custodianship.  I was given April 19th (Good Friday) then that was postponed to July 25 which was postponed again and then to year end, 2019. After some outside intervention I finally got a Judge and date: February 27 2020.
1. On that first appearance January 27, 2020
The Judge said she studied the file and is aufait with the case contents and orders sought. She asked if anyone helped me with the Application and I said no but I did speak with an attorney.  She knew it was flawed. But before sharing this with me and giving me the leave to correct it she continued with it as is. She told me that I will get some of the orders but not all. She adjourned for two weeks  to invite the Probation department to guide her, saying that this matter was new to the courts.  I was relieved that I could then leave this burden to the professionals.
2 Second Appearance: February 13, 2020
On that date I appeared and there was no Officer from the Probation Department (PD). Instead the judge told me that she had decided to deal with the matter under the Mental Health Act (MHA) because the PD doesn’t have power under their Act to deal with such aspects of this matter but only economic assistance. She did not consider any other act. She instructed me to serve all the Defendants. I resisted because I requested an Ex Parte Application for a Protection Order on this action and that wasn’t given. She said that is for Magistrates’ courts. She said serve the defendants.  I tried to explain the dangers in these cases (and trafficking) of alerting the perpetrators/defendants of what is happening while the victim/elderly remained in the dwelling and in a vulnerable state. She said,“that’s a chance we will have to take”.  Distressed and overwhelmed I began canvassing the various agencies that are or should be dealing with elderly abuse or care of the elderly or human rights to try to avoid serving and alerting the defendants of the pending actions while the victim remained in the same space.  No one could do anything but the Ministry of People Empowerment advised that there were many legislations that could have been used that authorize the ance of a Protection Order.  They couldn’t do anything since the matter was already occupying the courts’ attention. At a dead-end and with the deadline for minimum service time nearing I went against my better judgment and decided to go ‘like a lamb for the slaughter.  I served the documents.  No time was I told that the case before the court was procedurally wrong.
3 Appearance February 25, 2020

The Defendants appeared with an Attorney who said that I had no grounds for bringing a case on behalf of the elderly since I did not seek and obtain the courts’ permission. He moved to strike out my case in place for an application for Custodianship of the elderly by the very Defendants who the elder asked to be protected from the Mental Health Act. claiming I did not have the court’s permission. ​I asked for immunity for any possible damages for bringing the case​ and the Judge seemed shocked at the request. The Attorney ventured that I was asking for immunity only because I didn’t want to pay cost. I said I wasn’t bothered about cost. That went over his head. I informed that there was another child from another relationship. The Judge cautioned that the defendants must be transparent and that all relevant parties must be included in the application. The attorney indicated that the Act allows the patient to say who he wants to be involved in his care. To my mind that is under normal circumstances when the elder is in agreement to and part of that decision but not part of the Claim. The Judge then said if by the adjourned date she does not have the MHA application before her “the issue will have to be kept alive” . that is the case on file. The same case with all the ‘not procedurally sound’ issues.

With this conditionality and know it would take some time to get in touch with the other child, ​and knowing that I did not use the MHA but was guided by the Human Rights Act/Principles for Older Persons resolution 46/91 of December 1991 of which Barbados is a signatory I decided to prepare and file my Submissions.

The 2nd Claimant did not appear because although the Court served Take Notices on all parties, he did not receive his service. The defendants purposely and maliciously withheld all this information from him. The matter was adjourned for March 20. ​The Attorney indicated to me after the hearing that he has never met the 2nd Claimant.

The case was further postponed to March 26 then along came Coronavirus.

4 Appearance Friday 26, June
The Judge indicated that she did have the application under the Mental Health Act in her hands and therefore she will dismiss the original case. I asked why and indicated that I filed submissions for my case which stated the law under which a party could bring a case on behalf of another and gives immunity. The Attorney interjected that I went ahead and filed submissions although I was advised that the application for the MHA would be soon coming. He further stated that I did not have the court’s permission to act as the elder’s friend.  I was shocked.  Only then did the judge say to me that my matter is not procedurally sound. He also stated that the Judge should not even have been entertaining me since I was not a legal party. Four sessions. I asked for leave to get permission.

I asked for leave to get permission but the Judge indicated that she had the MHA application in her hands (as if to say the one overrides the other).​ Not being an Attorney they distracted me. The Judge never reviewed my Submissions, it seems, as she clearly had decided to go with only what she knew and what the defendants’

Attorney proposed: the MHA regardless of my response to the defendants that I did have grounds to bring a case under the Human Rights Act as outlined in the submissions before her (filed before the defendants’ MHA) and ​which​ ​is interpreted to state that I did not need the court’s permission in this instance. The Elder was a part of the Claim.

My application was faulty, yes, covering what could be deemed many cases/issues. The remedy therefore could have been to strike out that part of the case which was in conflict with the Law and retain and ventilate those which were covered by the law as per my submissions.

The Deputy Permanent Secretary of the Ministry of People Empowerment and Elder Affairs did say that there were several legislations that could have been used to issue a Protection Order. This is mind-boggling. I bowed out. I however asked for the elder to be allowed his independent attorney as in the first instance it was a violation of his civil liberties;that he was held hostage in his own home and secondly denied access to his attorney and appropriate medical care and attention.

The big irony is that the Attorney asked for cost which I instructed that the 2nd Claimant will have to pay since it was his case I was joined with. ​He has to pay the cost for attempting to bring a case against the defendants who used his money to mount the defence against his case. T​ he very defendants who are again now using his money to bring a MHA application without his knowledge or consent to suggest/ inquire into his capacity to manage his own affairs and for them to do so if he is found to be incompetent.

Stephen Lashley missed it all along…that the elder was also listed as Claimant. LMAO

The Law is an Ass. Or the people that work it.

Nothing in my Statement of Case suggests that I intended to be the party applying for Custodianship of the elder.

MISCARRIAGE  OF JUSTICE

223 comments

  • Welcome to the TURD WORLD, Black politicians/judiciary know how to impliment CYA.

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  • Vincent Codrington

    CYA? What is this acronym spelt out? What ever it means I agree. Lol !!. Wuh Loss.!!

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  • William Skinner

    This is an instructive and informative post. The last administration made some worthwhile moves regarding child and domestic abuse. However they were weak. We still have people going before the courts for domestic and child abuse and the cases are allowed to lag until behind the scenes deals are made to get them thrown out.
    On a daily basis, senior citizens are left exposed to all types of deviant behavior. It’s obvious that , like most things, we see the abuse of elders as somebody else’s business. We seem to think that repetitive speeches and political PR and photo ops are all that matters in some ministries.
    Child abuse, domestic abuse and elder abuse are all reflections of a society in cultural transition and unless we find radical ways to deal with these atrocities , they will continue .
    A very good post.

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  • Where was the welfare department? They have the power to intervene without invitation.

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  • William Skinner

    @ Hal
    The Welfare Department when clinically analyses is still modeled on the old vestry system. It’s like putting a whole bundle of new accessories on an old car.
    The question should be: Why have a Ministry of Elder Affairs if it’s just about hampers and political gimmicks.

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  • Other countries in the so-called First World are having similar difficulties. Last time this was brought up I posted articles from Canada, the USA and the UK that supports this. It is an evolving area of protection in most jurisdictions.

    It is amazing that at a time when the absolute madness of the ‘First World’ countries is on full display we still hold on to the myths that disparage black run countries.

    We are currently observing that all it took to dispose of the USA’s brilliant constitution is one ignorant madman.

    We are currently observing the unequal ‘justice’ meted out under their judicial system.

    We are currently observing the flabbergasting incompetence of their executive branch in containing a virus that the Caribbean has managed with astounding efficiency. These people abandoned the elderly in the nursing homes to die.

    Yet the white man’s narrative remains the tale remembered and told here in Barbados by some of us.

    We are a flawed people who at least have the excuse of scarce resources.

    HAVING STOLEN ALL THE RESOURCES OF THE “THIRD WORLD” WHAT IS THE EXCUSE OF THE “FIRST WORLD”?

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  • https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A2KIbMuTivxeA0kAnw5XNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEyazNpcWwwBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDQzAwOTRfMQRzZWMDc3I-/RV=2/RE=1593637652/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fwww.un.org%2fesa%2fsocdev%2fageing%2fdocuments%2fReview_and_Appraisal%2fCR_Carta_ENG.pdf/RK=2/RS=bh21LqoswTyw2Hv5OPCjmI2ngFs-

    Did Barbados ever ratify this San Jose Charter on the Rights of the Elderly in Latin America and the CARIBBEAN.. THAT THEY ARE ALSO SIGNATORY TO…..i won’t hold my breath because from the Supreme Court to the Bar Association, to the Parliament and everyone else sees the elderly as convenient targets to be robbed and abused, their estates stolen, their beneficiaries robbed, their bank accounts robbed and everyone has been having a field day abusing the elderly from the 1960s.

    I know they ALL IGNORE THE CONTENTS OF THIS AGREEMENT/Charter…especially as it dictates the EXPEDITING OF ALL LEGAL MATTERS pertaining to the elderly in the judicial process, they deliberately ignore that section and DRAG vulnerable elderly people, many with health issues, through the repulsive court system FOR YEARS on end….maliciously stressing them out until they DIE….savages..

    and all of them who love to jump into the media with their pretense and empty lip service hves always known about all the abuse toward the elderly using the Supreme Court, because some of them have been in the parliament over 30 years…

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  • It is an area of protection that needs urgent attention. We have work to do.

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  • The Charter explicitly states that the elderly from the AGE OF 60 should have all their matters LEGAL and otherwise expedited PROMPTLY …especially in THE JUDICIARY…

    the wrteches in the parliament and bar association are still holding on to that document and not IMPLIMENTING anything in it like the crabs they all are.

    ..just like they are still holding on to the International Human Rights for the Indigenous Africans/Caribbeans and are only now looking at it since they have been EXPOSED…..but there is nothing in that document to CYA cover your asses…. with….

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  • @ William

    Like most subjects on BU, we have had this discussion before. Last time I raised the point of a 100 yr old man who had his water cut off without notice and our wise chairman responded by saying the man should have looked at the BWA Facebook page for the notice.
    I kept quiet as I was at the time criticised for being rude to him. Some other fool came on and said his relatives and neighbours should be looking after him. I put that down to Bajan exuberance.
    But, fortunately, the man is still alive in this CoVid age and so far has not heard from welfare or even his MP as to how he is coping. He gets neighbours who pop round and offer to pay bills for him, but every time they do, it costs $20.
    Just look at the number of elderly dumped in the hospital. I said during the last debate and say again now, that children should be held responsible for their elderly parents. If they refuse, then they automatically lose their inheritance.
    Barbados has a lack of a language of kindness. Talk to any overseas Bajan and they tell the same story of their relationship with those at home. It does not matter if they come from Canada, the US or UK.
    I know a lady, a returnee, who told me that she tries to avoid stay at home Bajans, unless she really has to come in to contact in business, shopping etc. Otherwise, all her close friend are fellow returnees.
    It is the predictability of Barbadian behaviour I call the Bajan Condition. It goes from lawyers, bank staff and doctors, to plumbers and gardeners. Ask Rihanna about local undertakers.

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  • @William

    We have to do better at protecting the vulnerable in society. And a small society which makes us blood family all the more. There is a reasonable expectation the ministry of elder affairs should be leading on his matter. Have we seen the improvement to justify many hands make light work so far?

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  • Piece the Prophet

    To the Party that Posted this Article

    You are to be commended for trying to do the insurmountable among the superlatively incompetent and dishonest and uncaring, led by the most incapable, supported by the most unreliable and undeniably most indolent people in the fvucking world!!!

    As Willy E Coyote says it is a Turd World Country AND PROUD OF IT.

    You have highlighted

    A. Incompetent judges
    B. Complicit lawyers
    C. Waste foop agencies
    D. Antiquated laws

    in a country that feels that it is special

    It is the saddest thing to realise that the elderly and children are abused in Barbados with impunity.

    And yes, it is a worldwide phenomenon but that is of no real import to your discourse is it?

    But you are to take hope cause God does not sleep and when He commences His Own Judgement of these iniquities ALL OF THEM GOING START TO CRY AND ASK “Why us? What we do to deserve this?”

    Soon come, soon come!

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  • Critical Analyzer

    This general issue is a damned if you do, damned if you don’t type of scenario. It cannot be fixed by laws. There are far too many scenarios to cover that will always leave someone at a disadvantage. I have seen things go well and poorly because the parties involved knew no better and if you don’t know people around you in the know or have the money to pay professionals for advice, you will suffer.

    All that needs to happen is for the Elder Affairs to produce a reference guide for adults on the options available to them when planning for the twilight years while they are still in control and able to make arrangements.

    Too many people have no idea what they need to do and by the time they realize their error, they are left scrambling or too are late to fix it.

    Sample scenarios for the guide can be Hospitalization, Sever Disability, Transfer of Property, Wills, etc.

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  • Piece,

    It is indeed relevant that the problem is worldwide when one uses the term “TURD WORLD” country. It suggests that this is a feature confined to such countries and prevents us from being designated as ‘First World’.

    It is quite true that there is nothing special about Barbadians. Ain’t nothing especially different in the negative column either.

    Everything you stated is the case in most countries. ALL good people in ALL countries have to battle EVERY DAY to advance the cause of justice because there are always bad people in EVERY COUNTRY who try pervert it in their favour.

    I see Hal is back to disparaging all of us who have chosen to remain here. But let me state that I get good service here and I get bad service here. I meet excellence here and I meet total incompetence here. I meet crooked people here and I meet honest people here. I meet people who leave their elderly parents at the hospital and I meet the VAST MAJORITY OF THEM PICKING THEIR ELDERLY PARENTS UP.

    I don’t have to ask Rihanna about undertakers because I have had many close relatives buried here
    There were no problems.

    And if he thinks he is glad he doesn’t live here, he should see MY face right now!

    A few short visits is all we can stomach.

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  • A reference guide as suggested will assist the elderly and possibly reduce cases like the one exposed here BUT the recourse to legal support to arbitrate is still required.

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  • Bare “fvking” shite wuhnuh does talk sometimes including you Piece.

    We are neither the best nor the worst. And the “First World” countries’ asses all exposed and full of sores.

    The battle is a daily one that will never be over as long as human beings run the world.

    Get real! Your criticisms will be brushed off as nonsense otherwise. Most counterproductive just like “waste foops”.

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  • Some other fool came on and said his RELATIVES and neighbours should be LOOKING AFTER him. I put that down to Bajan exuberance. {Quote}

    I said during the last debate and say again now, that CHILDREN should be HELD RESPONSIBLE for their elderly parents. If they refuse, then they automatically lose their inheritance. {Quote}

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    Wuh type uh fool Hal Austin is for saying that children should be responsible for their elderly parents?

    Should we put that down to UK exuberance?

    I keep on telling wunnuh that Hal Austin ain’t as smart as he want wunnuh to believe.

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  • The issue is exposed daily on BU which mirrors wider society. Some of us relentlessly squeeze every issue into a narrow agenda.

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  • NorthernObserver

    As people live longer, and the incidence of living with mental incapacity increases, the need for a living will or similar directive grows. Without this, abuse at all levels is enabled.

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  • Critical Analyzer

    @David July 1, 2020 10:24 AM
    A properly written reference guide puts the information in the individual hands and leaves it up to them to sort out their own affairs while they have the power to do so. Legal Support is for people who have the money to pay and some of the lawyers will take your money knowing full well their hands are tied can’t do anything to help you.

    I know a situation where an elder lived alone and was suddenly incapacitated by a stroke. They had a will leaving everything to a family member but that same person was not in a financial position to care for the elder and their children too so they had to decide if to spend the little money they had on their children or this elder family member so they had to put them in the geriatric hospital. Said person had more than enough money to cover private care based on the bank statements still coming in the mail but they could not touch a single cent to get any care for them because they can’t access the money.

    A proper guide would have put the power in the persons hand and if they decided not to take action, it would be at them to take their chances. All these elder care scenario are as a result of poor, early planning.

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  • Care of the elderly a problem in Canada and Barbados.

    Some greedy relatives will take advantage of the incapacitated.

    Some wait for their “inheritance” hoping “dey gine soon dead.

    There are enough experienced lawyers and doctors in Barbados who could create the Legal and Medical framework to ensure that the elderly are properly taken care of until the die.

    I know of a case in Barbados where the person was cash poor but owned 3 or 4 properties that his children inherited when he died in a government facility.

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  • In a case like that, government should have first call on any remaining estate. In fact, if the relatives did not look after the elderly person they should lose all right to claim on the estate. Cash poor, property rich people should not get a free ride.

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  • @ Hal
    @ piece

    YOU BOTH HAVE NAILED.

    DON’T MIND THE BULLSHITTERS WHO DON’T WANT TO FACE UP TO THE TRUTH ON THE 2 X 3 ISLAND

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  • @Critical Analyser

    The point to take on board is that some senior citizens will be delinquent In organizing their affairs and a crisp legal system should be available to assist.

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  • The point to take on board is that some senior citizens will be delinquent In organizing their affairs and a crisp legal system should be available to assist.(Quote)

    Is this a serious contribution to the discussion?

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  • William Skinner

    @ Donna
    This propensity to measuring almost anything by “outside” standards is essentially self-defeating.
    We are way ahead of the so-called “ big countries, in several areas. For eg, our Labour laws and maternity leave laws are far superior to the USA. Many would be surprised to learn that paid maternity leave in the USA is a very recent development.
    Our lower income government driven housing is another area that surpasses many developed countries. We may criticise our parliamentarians but in many cases they are intellectually superior to some of the jokers in the big countries.
    We need to have more self confidence and stop believing that we are inferior or need to take the time from others.
    With proper political management; a more defined goal in the management of our natural resources and the eradication of stupid political polarization, we can rapidly emerge as a prime example of how to manage a small open economy.

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  • “Exercise caution in your business affairs;
    for the world is full of trickery.
    But let this not blind you to what virtue there is;
    many persons strive for high ideals;
    and everywhere life is full of heroism.”

    I see that Comrade Hants has a good understanding of the situation. It’s not a Barbados thing of a rest of the world thing.
    What we are see is not the “Bajan condition” but it is the ‘Human Condition’ on full display.This story could be about greedy relatives at work; a troublesome observer, or a greedy side chick (oh yeah).

    I added in that last point, not because I believe it, but because I want to offend your senses. And in case you are tempted to ask, why do I feel it is a woman? it could be a greedy man.

    Of course there is a need to protect the elderly, but laws by themselves cannot do it. One of our common complaints is that we have a lot of laws, but some are rarely enforced.

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  • As a small country we have to find a way to help people. To define help meNs being able to cut a path through the bureaucracy. A couple weeks ago we endured an example of bureaucracy at work of a woman throwing feces in the backyard which affected others in the semi attached housing.

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  • Long term care is a universal thing, as longevity increases. It is not just Barbadian. However, if we are going to develop a social policy programme to deal with the issue we have to look around the world to see what others are doing then make a decision that is pertinent to Barbados. Again, this is where insurance comes in. Long term care is part of retirement planning – from retirement to the grave.
    We cannot claim to be world class, on the one hand, but do not want to learn from the rest of the world on the other. Al that means is the circularity of mediocrity. It is sentimental nonsense.
    Family conflict is also universal, that is why we need laws in place to minimise such conflict. Even wills are frequently challenged in UK courts. The difference is that in some countries this uncouth behaviour is normalised and we are left with judges making crucial family decisions.
    As I have said, if relatives fail to step up and look after their own, then they automatically exclude themselves from any inheritance. Also, if the state has to step in, then the state becomes the primary claimant on any remaining assets.
    As to the care of the elderly, of course relatives and friends should be at hand, but it is the role of the state to provide the social safety net, which in Barbados is inadequate.
    By the way, as to dumping elderly relatives in hospital, what we need is a total reform of health care. For in-patients, the state should only pay for the medical care, bed and breakfast should be paid for by the patient. Hospitals are not hotels.

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  • Piece the Prophet

    @ Gentile Donna,

    De point that I Piece the Prophet, formerly Legend, wish you to understand is bottom line.

    De ole man understands your deflection as to the universal issues of Eldercare bit, and here is the thing, whereas I have recourse in the US or Canada or the UK to prosecute a matter there, in Barbados THERE IS NONE!

    Please try to remain focused on the topic at hand and not get carried away by my emotive commentary.

    Heheheheh

    The key points remain by the blogger.

    They enumerated their circumstances and they listed 6 weaknesses in the Bajan Situation which supports Mr. Austin’s Bajan Condition

    No need to get vex with me or Hal over the mess that our country, replete with waste food, is in!

    Having confirmed that this blog is accurate what do you think should be done.

    Do you think that Waste foops, cynthia Forde Minister of Elder Care or former waste foop Senator David Durant, were or are worth the salary they were or are paid?

    Given the blog content do you not concur with Piece the Prophet that they are waste foops?

    I await your response with my usual enthusiasm

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  • Some have recourse in Canada, USA and UK and others do not. How often have I read of people fighting obvious injustices in those countries for years and years?

    Steupse! If we believe you, Hal and Baje then I don’t know why we get angry with the white man when he says that we are inferior.

    Right now I am happy living in Barbados fighting the good fight till I die with a smile on my face. Gave my father some of my first chives. You should have seen how pleased he was. Got some here for my mother. I hope the shock does not kill her.

    Another thing I am observing though is that Piece is allowed to use “emotive commentary” and no-one thinks he’s “hysterical”.

    Now to your point. I do not have all the answers to this or any other problem. I have not even begun to think on this particular one.

    But I do remember Donville Inniss, speaking as Minister of Health, promising to fix the problem of the abandoned and propertied elderly by using their assets to pay for their care.

    But here we are still with no progress.

    As for Cynthia Forde, I would ask her to give an account of her stewardship because there is an urgent problem that needs to be fixed. What the hell is she doing besides getting her hair done every day? (Or so it looks.)

    Seems to me that there should be some agency that is authorized to investigate reported cases of elder abuse and take the appropriate action. A social worker should interview the elder in private. 6There should be a panel of doctors who evaluate the mental competency of the elder to determine if he or she is in need of an intervention or removal to better care and a family court to hear any objections from the family. If the elder is deemed to be deliberately abused then he or she becomes a ward of the state. That person’s assets should be used to provide for their care. Of course this would require serious oversight to ensure that the money is used for the intended purpose.

    The legal framework is not for me to design.

    If it is that the family just needs some education or support then this should be provided to allow the elder to remain with the family. Follow up visits should be made for a reasonable period.

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  • Bajans Are Sheeple And Not People

    Someday, someday coming soon someone will say no more shite will be accepted and take the law into their bloodied hands. It’s inevitable when RH shite like this happens.

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  • Reverse mortgages and other financial vehicles such as long term care,critical illnes with riders and proper estate planning. A well qualified Chartered Financial Planner or a Chartered Insurer can do no need for a Lawyer. Both the long term care and critical llness policy would provide ,home help,assisted care and hospice care. I am sure that that BARP should assist in this regard.

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  • @curley16

    You are right. Lawyers are not financial planners/advisers, nor are insurance agents. Lawyers have an undeserved elevated place in Barbados and lawyer/politicians do everything to keep things as they are.

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  • @ Donna

    The government agency authorized to investigate reported cases of elder abuse is the National Assistance Board. This is where ‘Concerned Citizen’ should have first reported this matter.

    The elderly person would have been interviewed by a Welfare Officer, the investigated case and the appropriate action taken as a result.

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  • Just called CBC about a technical problem with my MCTV. As usual the call was answered by the second ring by a most pleasant agent. I’m sure my little problem will be fixed promptly as usual.

    Told her how pleasant it was dealing with her. She laughed happily.

    Some Bajans too sweet!

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  • Artax,

    In other words provision has been made. Why didn’t somebody explain that to the lady?

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  • Everton Weekes is dead!

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  • @VC

    CYA = Cover Your Ass

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  • @Wily

    Not quite.

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  • CYA = carry your ass.

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  • @peace the Prophet.
    Thank you for your kind words. It was traumatic because I saw these children raised by this man single-handedly when the mother absconded to the US leaving them behind. Further I myself am living in a foreign country and approaching old age. It could be me. It could be you. It could be Cynthia forde
    I was disgusted by the way these people chose to reward their family member and pissed that I had to jump so many hurdles and tripped on all because there were no flipping teeth. Every agency saying they could not just walk in and “meddle” in private affairs. Like hell, you could.
    I just did.
    The Human Rights Law has many clauses under which this issue can be dealt with by agencies and by private citizens.

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  • Default:
    First there are the lax laws that allow persons to abuse elders undetected
    Second the callousness of the Judiciary that receives an experts application or any application that informs that a human is in peril and sets a date on Good Friday then give the application a calendar tour before giving it a Judge
    Third a Judge that promises to give some orders to a Statement of Case that is “not procedurally sound” then reneges on that but instead directs the Applicant to serve all parties, thus informing the perpetrators that their little game is over while the vulnerable remains in their grasp.
    But Barbados enters into a twilight zone when the very perpetrators are given permission by the court to be Custodians (Interim Receivers) of the very person who begged for help/relief from the trauma and torment.

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  • @ Hal Austin
    Travesty.
    Were it in the ghetto, perhaps the Probation Department would have waltzed in and ask “is everyone alright in here”.
    But because this is a well-situated family the question of lawsuit(s) is king.

    My understanding of the power of the Probation Department is that they have to receive a complaint from the elder for them to enter and investigate.
    Pray tell how does one who is held hostage do that?
    Since 2017 (I am losing the distance past) and I wrote asking the Prime Minister to intercede on all elders by bringing legislations with teeth to deal with these matters.

    Its purely despicable.

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  • @ TheOgazarts.
    lol
    I hear you. lol

    What I will say is that in researching precedents for this case I learned of the overwhelming amount of elder abuse in developed countries too and how very subtle it is and difficult to recognize. I also learned that it is always, always close family members and trusted persons whom you would least expect that abuse the elders.
    I also know of the fierce battle to remove the offending party(s), the mudslinging and character assassination that can ensue when there is a lot at stake.
    All this man wanted was access to communication with persons outside the home particularly his Attorney.
    I felt compelled to intervene because it was I who advised him to prepare his final papers and accompanied him to his Attorney to discuss and initiate that in 2015.
    Access to legal and medical services and socialization is a Human Right.

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  • @ BU
    Yes, recourse to legal support to arbitrate is still needed.
    This is another can of worms. The elderly are being preyed upon by some Lawyers too. They are asked to bring in land documents, make deposits for the services but then it is a long run around until they die Then the crows/eagles swoop in. Tthere is currently massive land fraud around and about.
    Recourse and access. Many elderly people have money they accumulated but family members, like the ones in this case, hold on to the management of it and in fact squanders it on their lavish lifestyles to the detriment and trauma of the victim.
    Often family members elect not to work but to become parasites on the elders depleting their finances faster.
    There are so many instances but I could speak to and represent on this case because I have known the victim and the children since they were in primary school and was involved in many discussions concerning them over the 20 years. I also have proof of various events and occurrances..

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  • Cheurfleur,

    Keep fighting the good fight! There is so much to do and so little time. So many things that need fixing.

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  • @ Robert
    the flip side to your comment is that of children feeling that they are entitled to their parents’ assets.
    Having rated them, fed them, clothe them, socialized them, educate them why is it parents’ duty again to maintain them into adulthood and old age. The Police Officer at Worthing told me that the children are his and therefore it is ok for them to spend his money on themselves (albeit, to the point, he is worried of going bankrupt before he dies).
    Some of them don’t even want to wait until the elder dies to covet their assets. Have you seen the Geriatric Hospital? Or the conditions some of the elders among us live in? Do you remember the Hernandez brothers who hired hitmen to slaughter their parents in America? This phenomenon is real.
    Talking about that. Politicians know who these elders are and where they are, come elections time to beg for votes.
    Shouldn’t there be a database of all persons over 60 or 65 that the respective agency should visit regularly and monitor? There is such a local-government community program in Canada.

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  • @ Northerner
    Sir indeed people are living longer, with more stress that is causing them many impairments. It is evident that after 65/70 you have reached your “use by” date. The paltry laws that are “on the books” demonstrate clearly that society doesn’t care about you.
    Having diminished mental capacity too is a double-edged sword. Literally. As soon as the elderly begin to show signs of slowing down or forgetfulness, that becomes the new weapon. Without professional diagnoses, the family, those intent on robbing the grave, begin the emotional and psychological assault by labelling the elders as senile or that they have Alzheimer’s. It is a very vile comment. It is very painful to the victims realizing that first, they have become so vulnerable and that the very people they depend on is so callous and cruel.

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  • I never knew the ‘Probation Department’ dealt with these types of cases.

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  • @ BU
    Yes we have to find ways to help people. You could get …….
    Helping could be costly in some instances. Having read the UN Human Rights Principles for Older Persons, of which Barbados is a signatory, I embarked on this assistance knowing that the law allows some safety. Neither the Judge or Stephen Lashley seemed to know about that. In fact Stephen Lashley went further to point out that I submitted things (articles and authorities) I got from elsewhere rather than within the region. Stephen Lashley has forgotten that all case matters that are now the body of knowledge in the Caribbean were formed from cases outside the region. Stephen Lashley doesn’t seem to know that it is allowed to quote/reference authorities from anywhere in the Commonwealth.
    When the beggars of votes implement sensible and workable legislation, citizens would be able and more willing to intervene because you would have clear cut paths to follow.

    It is unacceptable that anyone should have to endure all these shenanigans to help a fellow man or that the fellow man (elder) should have to have endured such degradation.

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  • Stephen Lashley was working for his lawyer buck. That is all.

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  • @ Artax
    Fact and Fiction.
    If you have read the article you would have seen that the National Assistance Board/Probation/Welfare was contacted.
    All avenues were explored.
    I have never read the National Assistance Act, but I did refer to that agency and my visit there In my documents and the Judge determined that the Act, literally, does not empower that agency to act in this situation.
    Which situation and how exactly? The devil is in the details. She preferred what she knows only, the Mental Health Act (1984). So be it.

    The Cat is now legalized to watch the milk.

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  • @ Hal Austin
    So true Lawyers are not Financial Planners. But many grab at this service because of big bucks.
    It is bewildering. Lawyers are retained to provide services for their clients in estate management/Trusts etc., yet ordinarily, many do not seem to be able to handle that aspect of the law comfortably. I was recently told, piercingly, while ventilating on a Pensions Plan that he was an Insurance Agent for 15 years.
    They used the Insurance Act to defend.
    LMAO

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  • cherfleur July 2, 2020 1:05 AM #: “If you have read the article you would have seen that the National Assistance Board/Probation/Welfare was contacted.”

    @ cherfleur

    I read the article, in which you mentioned visiting the Welfare/Probation Department, Police and the Ministry of People Empowerment & Elder Affairs….. as well as calling the US Embassy.

    Perhaps you may want to indicate to me where in the article you made reference to contacting NAB.

    NAB falls under the portfolio of Minister of People Empowerment and Elder Affairs. What I know for a FACT is NAB deals with elder abuse cases. For example, in January 2018, Ms Wilson and then NAB Chairman, Dr. David Durant, admitted that over the past few years concerned Barbadians were calling the NAB on a weekly basis, to report alleged or suspected elderly abuse cases. Ms Wilson said that in December 2017 alone, 26 elder abuse cases were reported to the Board and investigated.

    If you had actually visited there in the first place, the Director, Charyn Wilson, would have guided you accordingly and assigned a Welfare Officer to the case. The Officer would interview the elderly person, investigate the case and the appropriate action taken.

    Therefore, you wouldn’t have to go through the process of filing a case in the High Court. This is also evidenced by the FACT that, according to you, “The Deputy Permanent Secretary of the Ministry of People Empowerment and Elder Affairs did say that there were SEVERAL legislation that could have been USED to issue a Protection Order. They COULDN’T DO ANYTHING, since the matter was ALREADY OCCUPYING the courts’ attention.”

    I recall sometime in February this year, I posted a contribution to another BU blog about elder abuse, in which I mentioned the following:

    (1). Policies and procedures and agreements to report and manage elder abuse cases in Barbados, called the “Draft Protocol for the Prevention, Reporting, Investigation and Management of Elder Abuse,” was completed in 2012.

    (2). In June 2013, the “National Policy on Ageing in Barbados” was passed in Parliament. Section 7 of the policy deals specifically with elder abuse. Included in the recommendations are:
    (a). Create a national protocol for the prevention, reporting, investigation and management of elder abuse;
    (b). Undertake research into the causes, extent and consequences of elder abuse in Barbados to help in the formulation of policy;
    (c). Enact a single code of law to address the issue of elder abuse;
    (e). Provide services for victims of elder abuse, to include counselling, rehabilitation, alternative accommodation and support services;
    (f). Establish mandatory counseling for perpetrators of elder abuse;
    (g). Facilitate the creation of a dedicated telephone help line for victims of elder abuse.

    (3) A committee to monitor the implementation of the plan of action in the “National Policy on Ageing” was established in July 2014.

    All the above falls within the purview of NAB.

    As a government minister, Stephen Lashley would have most likely been present when those policies were discussed at Cabinet and debated in Parliament.

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  • In a properly working system, once a complaint is made to one agency, it should then flow through all the other relevant agencies. That is the multi-agency approach to welfare.
    In any case, once a complaint is made to the police, for example, the onus is then on the police to inform the relevant agency, or at the very least direct the complainant to the right agency.
    The complainant acted correctly, but the flaws are in how the agencies work. Anyone with elderly relatives in Barbados knows the system does not work.

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  • Many cases of the system not working in USA, CANADA, USA.

    Thank you again, Artax! It seems the monkeys in the jungle have somehow managed to put systems in place. Just like the human systems in the civilized places, the monkey system sometimes malfunctions. But at least we have an excuse – we are, after all, only monkeys and ” Monkey see. Monkey do” depends on monkey seeing the humans clearly through the trees.

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  • Meanwhile in the jungle this monkey rests assured that when the humans bring the plague back to Barbados she need not worry about how she will get treatment if she catches the virus because the monkey’s life matters.

    Now all the monkey has to figure out how to build an economy less dependent on humans coming to peep at him through the trees

    It may take a while because after all, we are only monkeys.

    Now this monkey is going out to water her crops, starting with the banana plants, of course. This monkey does not like the pesticide poisoned imports from the civilized places.

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  • Oops! The monkey forget she has to watch the opening salvo of Morning Joe. I bet it begins with clips from yesterday’s episode of “The Lone Ranger”.

    The monkey is trying to learn how to set up and run a good government by watching the humans.

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  • The monkey is a little perplexed. The civilized leader of the civilized country says the plague is just going to go away. But how can it go away when he is not waving his arms right.

    I will ask my monkey leader to show him how to wave his arms and say the magic words ” WEAR MASKS SOCIAL DISTANCE WASH YOUR HANDS TEST TEST TEST CONTACT TRACE MANAGE YOUR REOPENING”.

    Quit monkeying around, you humans!

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  • @ Donna who wrote ” Many cases of the system not working in USA, CANADA,”

    The big problem we face in Canada is inadequate care of the elderly in Nursing. Now that it has been exposed by Covid 19

    the Federal and provincial governments are acting to resolve that problem.

    I have not visited an Almshouse in Barbados since so I will leave it to others to describe the conditions.

    I already wrote about the situation regarding a person who was institutionalized despite owning 3 or 4 properties.

    His family could not afford to pay for care in a private nursing home and he did not have proper ” estate planning ” so his properties were inherited by his children.

    Barbados can ” punch above its weight ” and create a system that ensures a person’s house and properties can be sold to pay for their reasonable care in a private nursing home.

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  • @ Hants

    Absolutely. Some relatives want to inherit, but do not think they have obligations. That is why we need an inheritance act, to curb people having wealth they did not work for.
    Don’t forget property theft – the widespread squatting for ten years then claiming ownership – a policy encouraged by both governments. The people who suffer most are those who live overseas.
    I know a young Barbadian woman who sometime ago started looking out for her elderly English neighbour in South London. Sadly, he died and to her surprise, she discovered that he left all his property to her. It was a reward for her kindness. All she did was to pop in and say hello, made sure he had something to eat and was warm and happy. His family were not happy.

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  • Hants, a young cousin who lives in Canada. He is having problems getting the lawyers to complete documents on the property next to mine left to him by his grandmother. Though born in Canada, he fully intends to move here after his 90+ year old grandfather dies. I called him weird and told him the problems we have in Barbados. After every tale his reply was, “We get that here too.”

    Had not for COVID he would have been here on one of his frequent trips.

    I wish his grandfather a long life but I can’t wait to have a neighbour again. Especially a relative.

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  • Oh dear! The monkey God playing with monkey. As the monkey set foot outside to water the crops he sen’ a shower o’ rain. The monkey come back inside, punch two o’ de coconuts she cousin pick off she trees yesterday and cut off the top fuh she and sit down to watch “the murderer” Joe Scarbourough Psycho Show starring the Lone Ranger doing he monkey imitation but not waving his arms correctly.

    As the monkey sit down the rain stop but the show was so funny she missed watering time and walking time.

    But the monkey poke her finger in the dirt and realise that it was damp under the surface. So rain musse fall when monkey was sleeping. Monkey sleep real strong since she hear the new civilized campaign slogan, “Masks Are Great Again” and see the Lone Ranger trying to wave he arms and remember the magic words.

    Monkey plan to live to be a hundred like the old Bajans that born before monkey learn to drive the white man car rather than swing through the trees and before the monkey start eating human food.

    The monkey is enjoying life in the jungle even though she knows she has work to do to fix it up. The monkey’s sixteen year old son has customers in the civilized world and he promise she a million dollars when he hit it big to set she up in she old age. He gon set up cameras in the house so he can make sure she ok at all times once he build his house down the hill near the cliffs where monkey does meet she monkey friends to exercise.

    Oop! Monkey son just pass and sweet name he mom on he way to knock off he CXC preparations before he start he real real work.

    Monkey plan to live long an’ happy in Barbados. Life too sweet to dead!

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  • William Skinner

    It gets worse: How about a senior citizen in today’s paper complaining that a Member of Parliament owes him rent. Now the thing here is that the MP gets a subvention from the taxpayers to cover such overheads.
    The MP claims he owes no rent. The senior citizen says he does.
    Question: How does the Minister of Elder Affairs view this natter?

    It gets “curiouser and curiouser”

    From , Alice in Wonderland

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  • THE USUAL HONEST BLP MINISTER

    Landlord claims Rowe owes him rent

    Property owner Lionel Riley has rubbished claims made by Parliamentary Secretary in the Ministry of People Empowerment Neil Rowe that he does not owe him rent for the premises the politician used as his constituency branch office.

    Riley said after issuing Rowe with an eviction notice in January, the Member of Parliament for St Michael North West moved out in March, owing him three months’ rent for the property which he claimed was left “in a mess”.

    Two days ago, Rowe told Barbados TODAY that he was not evicted from his constituency branch office at Deacons Road, St Michael. Rowe said he had fulfilled his rental obligations and had left because of maintenance issues.

    However, Riley who contacted Barbados TODAY and strongly disputed Rowe’s claims, said the matter might become a legal issue since he was unhappy with the way in which it was being handled.

    He noted that even though he issued the Member of Parliament with an eviction notice, he was dissatisfied that he now has to carry out repair works to the house and indicated that he handed it to Rowe in 2017 in “first class” state.

    “It was just finished paint up, clean up and everything like that. He got to pay the rest of the rent or I am going to sue him. I am now getting information for the lawyers to sue him. I called him many times and asked him to come and sit down and let us get things work out and settle out things, but he wouldn’t come. I gave him notice to quit because of the way he treated the house and the complaints that I got from the people. The government used to pay me rent and he stopped it and there were no problems. Everything was going fine, no complaints, nothing at all.

    “I called them and I asked them why and they say they don’t know why he stopped it. He owes me approximately three months’ rent. He never paid me a security deposit, he never came to me once to sign a contract agreement but he always hiding. The people are rejoicing now that he is no longer here. I had gates there to put to enter the lawn, the gates are missing. I asked him about them and he ain’t talking nothing about them. Now I have the contractor to come and examine,” Riley said.

    The landlord said he was not happy that there were now tiny holes all over the wooden property from campaign posters.

    In responding to swirling rumours of his eviction, Rowe said he left the rental property because of maintenance issues and claimed that he had witnesses and people around him that could attest to why he left. Rowe also indicated that he had the evidence to show that the rent was paid up.

    However, Riley who is in his 80s also said that he too had witnesses to prove what type of condition the house was in when he handed it over to the MP.

    “I have been trying to talk with him and make peace with him but he does as he likes. I was surprised to see all of this trash in the paper, he should be ashamed. Listen to me, when he gone you should see all the garbage and everything that about here and I say, ‘Neil, why?’ and he say ‘put it outside’. He left the place in a terrible mess,” Riley said.
    anestahenry@barbadostoday.bb

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2020/07/02/landlord-claims-rowe-owes-him-rent/

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  • Well …. the monkey MCTV men left about fifteen minutes ago. The monkey can now watch all the humans again on all the channels. The monkey bakery van just pass so the monkey going feast on mouth watering patties and apple pie.

    The monkey cousin pass on he way to go fishing on the sea cliffs. When he come back he gon bring the guava and lime trees to replace the ones that died and some pigeon pea and okra trees he promise me. ALL FREE. Now the monkey will have all them along with the sweet mango tree that full o’ mangoes and the sour sop tree that got on small ones. The monkey son gon bake some banana bread for the sweet cousin with bananas he bring for she along with the banana suckers and pomegranate plants.

    The monkey gon walk down the hill to fetch her hormone and preservative free chicken from another cousin to make some Bajan soup.

    The monkey plan to live to a hundred in Barbados cause…..

    ……life is sweet in the jungle although the monkey know she got work to do.

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  • The monkey got tv so the monkey know bout all the dishonest politicians in USA, CANADA and UK. The monkey was surprised to know that civilized people in civilized country was dishonest too.

    The monkey shall wait and see what the magistrate decides in this matter. A pity we ent got nuh monkey Judge Judy so I could watch on monkey tv.

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  • I never knew MPs paid their landlords for constituency offices, I thought parliament did? BU gang again?🤐

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  • I never knew MPs paid their landlords for constituency offices, I thought parliament did? BU gang again?🤐

    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    YOU COME ON BU EVERY FUCKING TIME DEFENDING YOUR CRIMINAL BLP MATES EVEN WHEN EXPOSED TO THE WORLD TO SEE.

    KEEP SHOWING YOUR ASS BEAVIS.

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  • @ Baje

    Ignore the buffoons. They are experts in something called PR and marketing and like being the only black man in the room.

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  • I am an expert in proving that notwithstanding your scholarship to Combermere you’re often misinformed. I notice yuh get shut up one time on the Bridgetown blog. Keep making yourself look a fool with the PR rant; and no I don’t like being the only black man in the room, I like being a black man in the room who is not intimidated by other races. I asked a simple question, which neither you nor 3-degrees answered. As usual, just talking out wunna asses–attention seekers. Look PLT ideas getting traction; you so brilliant and nobody ain’t building houses pon transport board site.

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  • @William Skinner
    Question: How does the Minister of Elder Affairs view this natter?
    ++++++++++++++
    Is it an “Elder”’ issue? Seems to me a landlord/tenant dispute, how about Minister of Consumer Affairs? In any case it should be relatively easy to get to the bottom of this, all Mr. Rowe needs to do is produce records of his/Gov’ts payments (cheques/transfers) to Mr. Riley for the period in dispute and case over.

    Unless……….

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  • I REPEAT TYPICAL BEHAVIOR FROM BLP CRIME MINSTERS CONTINUING IN 2020

    TWO days ago, Rowe told Barbados TODAY that he was not evicted from his constituency branch office at Deacons Road, St Michael. Rowe said he had fulfilled his rental obligations and had left because of maintenance issues.

    HOWEVER, Riley who CONTACTED Barbados TODAY and strongly disputed Rowe’s claims, said the matter might become a legal issue since he was unhappy with the way in which it was being handled.

    He noted that even though he issued the Member of Parliament with an eviction notice, he was dissatisfied that he now has to carry out repair works to the house and indicated that he handed it to Rowe in 2017 in “first class” state.

    “It was just finished paint up, clean up and everything like that. He got to pay the rest of the rent or I am going to sue him. I am now getting information for the lawyers to sue him. I called him many times and asked him to come and sit down and let us get things work out and settle out things, but he wouldn’t come. I gave him notice to quit because of the way he treated the house and the complaints that I got from the people. The government used to pay me rent and he stopped it and there were no problems. Everything was going fine, no complaints, nothing at all.

    “I called them and I asked them why and they say they don’t know why he stopped it. He owes me approximately three months’ rent. He never paid me a security deposit, he never came to me once to sign a contract agreement but he always hiding. The people are rejoicing now that he is no longer here. I had gates there to put to enter the lawn, the gates are missing. I asked him about them and he ain’t talking nothing about them. Now I have the contractor to come and examine,” Riley said.

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  • William Skinner

    @ Sargeant
    The discussion was about abuse of elders or taking advantage of them. The landlord is very much an elder. He is claiming that a MP owes him for the rental of a constituency office.
    I thought any Elder Affairs minister would have an interest in such a situation . I did not put it in the public domain. I read it like everybody else.

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  • Baje why a so called sucessful man so concerned with events in the 2by 3 island ? It tells me you are a disgruntled de. Kicked out of your comfortable life pre 2018 and as such is just an angry jerk ranting all day long.There are two sides to this story but surprise surprise you chose the landlord, side as gospel.You are not here how can you be picking sides jackass?

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  • The monkey so stupid she don’t know who to believe in this matter. But now the monkey perplexed again because she watch Judge Judy and see that the humans say there are two sides to every story and that the devil is in the details and Judge Judy always asking for pictures, documents like rental agreements and receipts. So now monkey wondering how some humans figure it out without these things.

    So monkey start thinking that some humans believe what they wish to believe.

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  • I am going to assume that a period (.) followed by a capital letter means the end of a sentence and the start of a new one. Please explain the logic of
    “Baje why a so called sucessful man so concerned with events in the 2by 3 island ? It tells me you are a disgruntled de.”

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  • William Skinner

    @ David
    I notice that BU continues to impress:
    @ PLT ideas are gaining “ traction” ; I have said repeatedly that PM Mottley does not listen to the crap her so- called defenders write.
    Congrats to @ PLT. He now joins: Justice Cumberbatch; Senator Caswell Franklyn , as contributors to BU that PM Mottley takes seriously.
    It’s a good thing you didn’t ban @PLT
    Keep up the good work David!

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  • @William

    It is all of us. The blogmaster facilitates.

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  • William Skinner
    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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  • @ Enuff July 2, 2020 3:52 PM
    “I never knew MPs paid their landlords for constituency offices, I thought parliament did? BU gang again?”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    You are at it again, aren’t you? Being the perfect yard-fowl all bedecked in your all-red plumage to keep goal whether fair or foul.

    What are you implying here? That Mr. Riley the senior citizen is a ‘seasoned’ liar, like yourself?

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  • Miller – Fuk off! Stupse.

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  • Baje why a so called sucessful man so concerned with events in the 2by 3 island ? It tells me you are a disgruntled de. Kicked out of your comfortable life pre 2018 and as such is just an angry jerk ranting all day long.There are two sides to this story but surprise surprise you chose the landlord, side as gospel.You are not here how can you be picking sides jackass?

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    @ Lorenzo aka BUTTHEAD

    YOU CAME TO JOIN YOUR BUDDY BEAVIS.

    I AM ANGRY BY POINTING OUT THE LEVEL OF DISHONESTY OF YOUR BLP PARTY MEMBER AND BY EXTENSION YOUR MATES.

    YOU, LIE, ROB, STEAL AND WHEN EXPOSED ALWAYS THE OTHER PERSON FAULT.

    BAJANS WHO ACT DUMB NEED TO WAKE UP.

    YOUR BLP MATE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF AN 80 YEAR OLD ROBBING HIM OF THOUSANDS OF $$$ THEN RUNNING TO THE PUBLIC DENYING THE CASE.

    I GIVE THE 80 YEAR OLD VICTIM MUCH CREDIT BY LATER COMING TO THE MEDIA TO THE PUBLIC AND EXPOSING THE LIAR AND THE LEVEL OF DISHONESTY AMONG YOUR BLP GROUP.

    NO WONDER NO 2018 PROMISED INTEGRITY LEGISLATION FROM BARBADOS LYING PARTY (BLP) SAME IDENTICAL TO THE DEMOCRATIC LYING PARTY (DLP).

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  • @Hal Austin July 1, 2020 9:36 AM “Just look at the number of elderly dumped in the hospital. I said during the last debate and say again now, that children should be held responsible for their elderly parents. If they refuse, then they automatically lose their inheritance.”

    My Response: The elders who are dumped typically have little or nothing to leave to anyone, so threatening to cut an adult child out of the will is a pretty meaningless statement. The dumped elders do not own 7,000 acre English estates.

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  • @Hal Austin July 1, 2020 9:36 AM “I know a lady, a returnee, who told me that she tries to avoid stay at home Bajans, unless she really has to come in to contact in business, shopping etc. Otherwise, all her close friend are fellow returnees.”

    There must also be something called the Returnee Condition. I was asked to drive an elderly returnee to church and back every Sunday. Being a good Christian lady I agree. No I did not charge her $20 or anything at all. I wanted or needed nothing in return, except perhaps a pleasant “thank you” After church I drove her home. Her home had a rather long steep outside stairway, out of the kindness of my heart I offered to escort her to the top of the stairs. My young child who was maybe 5 or 6 at the time of course trailed after us. The returnee turned and told me sharply “the child must remain in the car [in the midday sun too] because I don’t like other people’s children to come into my house.” We were simply intending to escort her to the top of the outside stairs. We had no interest nor intention of inviting ourselves into her home. We had/have our own very nice home, and were in somewhat of a hurry to go home to it to enjoy our Sunday lunch.

    Well I never picked her up again. My child never ever intruded into her home.

    So you want me to be your unpaid taxi person, but you don’t want my child anywhere near to your property. Yes. Let’s see how well that works.

    Let her take a taxi and pay $15 each way every Sunday.

    I guess that even though I have lived abroad for many years and have traveled the world I must still be infected by the Bajan Condition.

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  • William Skinner

    @ Hal
    @ Cudear Bajan

    The abandonment of the elders at the hospital is a reflection of the rampant poverty , we like to pretend does not exist.
    Of course I pose the question: How many Whites, Indians and other non- Black ethnic citizens are left stranded at the QEH?
    Time to get real and speak the truth. In this regard @Cuhdear has a point.

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  • I wonder how much care the overseas Bajans on this blog have delivered to THEIR OWN PARENTS.

    If like me you haven’t spent more than a decade providing hands on, and wallet on eldercare.

    Then shut up.

    Laws wont do it, manuals won’t do it, a stronger bureaucracy won’t do it, sometimes even money won’t do it.

    It is best done as it is right now, by the LOVING hands of daughters, granddaughters, and nieces.

    And if the U.K., the U.S. and Canada were so good at looking after elders, would their elders be dropping like flies over the past three months?

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  • And all of us who “suffer from the Bajan Condition” know very well that elderly Bajans have a saying “I int tekkin’ off my trousers until I ready to lay down” so they make no plans or provision for old age or sickness or death, as though if they/WE ignore the reality of old age, sickness and death we will jump rejoicing into our graves in perfect good health.

    Looka wunnah. It don’t work so.

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  • @Hal “Ask Rihanna about local undertakers.”

    I am good with my local undertaker, so good that when he sees me he asks if I don’t have any business for him. He is my kinsman, so we both have a good laugh at the morbid joke.

    And “no” right now I don’t have any business for him, hope not to have any for years yet, but we still good.

    And by the way when my old people passed, I told my siblings straight “don’t get on a plane unless you have your equal share of the money for the undertaker, bring cash, or bring your credit card.” So the undertaker was fully paid, BEFORE the parental bodies were committed to the earth.

    So “nope” no conflict with the undertaker.

    None with the siblings either. They are your parents, you get to pay an equal portion of the undertakers fee. No exceptions.

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  • William Skinner

    @ Hal
    You keep saying the Bajan “condition”
    Is that the correct term. I think it is conditioning which is an almost continuous process. Bajans do not have any condition. Such a term is thought to be insulting/ derogatory.
    It is really our conditioning rather than any condition. We all whether we live here or overseas are victims of this conditioning, which is a direct result of slavery and the colonial experience.

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  • @cherfleur July 1, 2020 11:00 PM “@ I saw these children raised by this man single-handedly when the mother absconded to the US leaving them behind.”

    So when a mother migrates it is called absconding?

    What is it called when a father migrates?

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  • @cherfleur July 2, 2020 12:19 AM “Shouldn’t there be a database of all persons over 60 or 65 that the respective agency should visit regularly and monitor?”

    I am over 60, well over 60. And “no please” I don’t want the government to put me in any data base and monitor me.

    No please.

    I don’t want the government ‘malicious-ing up in my business”

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  • @Hants July 2, 2020 7:00 AM “Barbados can ” punch above its weight ” and create a system that ensures a person’s house and properties can be sold to pay for their reasonable care in a private nursing home.”

    Private does not necessarily mean better.

    I’ve been the Canadian response to COVID19, and it is a FACT that those patients in expensive, and what were thought to be good private nursing homes actually fared WORSE that patients in public nursing homes.

    So having “enough” money does not always ensure that an elder will receive excellent or even good care. Sometimes the staff is under paid, and over worked, and transient, and working at multiple places to make ends meet, carrying and bringing germs with them, and the high fees extracted by the nursing home goes to fatten the pockets of the shareholders.

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  • @Concerned Party/Cherfleur “Called the US Embassy they said the same thing. They further said that they have to respect the laws in the host country and there were none that empowered them to intervene.”

    Why would you have called the U.S. Embassy? it the elderly Gentleman an American?

    And if not under what authority can a foreign embassy interfere in a local familly affair?

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  • @Concerned Party/Cherfleur “A dear elderly friend mentioned to me some difficulties he was experiencing at the hands of his children together with their mother, his ex-wife, I realised it was elder abuse immediately but especially flagrant abuses of his civil liberties. He wanted to get HIS attorney to conduct or change some business but was being prevented from so doing. Since I was well known to the household I told him I will inquire for him but would need his permission. I however made an appointment with MY attorney and called him saying I’ll pick him up the next day to take him to the attorney.”

    So the old man wanted to go to HIS attorney to conduct or change some business. But this “Good Samaritan” took the old man to HER attorney to conduct or change some business [change the will in her favor maybe?]

    This makes me as suspicious as hell. It looks like the “Good Samaritan” is seeking to have UNDUE INFLUENCE over the old man, otherwise why would she take him to HER attorney, instead of taking him to HIS attorney as he desired to do? Perhaps because HIS attorney who may have know him well for years, decades maybe would have immediately sniffed out the attempt at UNDUE INFLUENCE??

    I would be pissed if anyone tried to pull that stunt on either of my elderly parents. No wonder his adult children are pissed. I would be too.

    Seeking to exercise UNDUE INFLUENCE over a non-family elder is also a violation of his human rights.

    No wonder the case got thrown out, and now Concerned Party/Cherfleur is left with nothing to do except to tr it in the court of BU>

    Stupse

    And stupse again.

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  • The case reeks of issues related to inheritance. The whole area of family law, including but not limited to wills and probate needs an urgent review. Some lawyers and persons connected to wills are literally getting away with murder, I know this from a family case, wherein the administrator is doing dixee with substantial monies owed to beneficiaries.

    All wills and probate should go through a magistrate review at the commencement of and at the end of probate and distribution, to ensure that the administrator has adhered to the last wishes of the deceased.

    This does not mean bureaucracy, it means that the administrator of a will needs to be held to account for the funds therein and expeditiously. All wills should have a term limit of three years past the date of death. Otherwise the court automatically should become the administrator in the hands of a competent magistrate, at a fee of 10% of the value of the will.

    This is a serious matter that needs immediate attention and knowing that it is now the competent BLP in government and I have added it to this blog, action will be taken. I mentioned this sometime back, but the incompetents in government before did nothing.

    Take my advice, investigate all wills currently under probate for deviation from the intentions of the deceased persons and assess whether the administrators have distributed funds to the beneficiaries. Might find some interesting things.

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  • PS To be clear, in the matter that I am referring to, I am seriously considering notifying the Fraud Squad at a suitable time.

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  • I was waiting for Cuhdear Bajan to fix the jackass Hal Austin. There are many obnoxious returning nationals that I have come across as well as some delightful ones. Similarly, I have met many obnoxious stay at home Bajans and others who are simply delightful.

    Anyone who says otherwise could only be a jackass lower down the scale than a monkey. I for one am ecstatic not to have to endure the company of Hal Austin AND the friend of which he speaks because their pompous asses need to look in the mirror for the source of their problems with us. If the way presents himself on BU is the way he approaches us in person, he gets treated much better than he deserves.

    How many of us stay at home Bajans insult all overseas Bajans daily on BU? How many of us refer to your overseas status as being a negative? Do we begin EVERY post with “wuhnuh overseas Bajans ” ? EVERY TIME the division occurs because of disparaging remarks from Hal and his ilk.

    If we are so inferior why not just leave us alone? We don’t damn well need you! Nor your bloody remittances! Not if means bowing to your “superiority” that you apparently acquired by mixing with the “superior” white man. We get enough of that shit from the white man. And if you can’t see that by your attitude you are agreeing with him then something is tangled in your brain.

    Enjoy your “superior” lives and be gone already ! Nobody is made better by daily insults. You are adding nothing to our lives. People like PLT manage to highlight problems AND help us to solve them without trying to make us all feel small.

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  • William Skinner

    @ Donna
    You are absolutely wrong. Many of us living at home try to win arguments by saying that those living overseas ought to keep their mouths closed.
    We must be fair- that ball swings both ways. I have avoided getting into such nonsense arguments. Even in your post you have fallen into the same trap by ignoring that for donkey years , people returning home are often made to feel that they have returned to some foreign land where that don’t belong.
    It’s all crap and you ought to know junk when you see it on both sides.
    I recall, one gentleman, who could not engage me without stupid responses asked: “ When last did Skinner visit Barbados” . When I read that , I was actually in Barbados, enjoying an outing with friends on the south coast. I was in Barbados and actively involved in the management of a campaign ( neither BLP/DLP) and I do have business interest.
    I’ll say one thing : Hal should know better than to get into back and forth with some people on BU. I blame him because his intellect should have informed him that it is a useless exercise.
    So for you or anybody else to suggest that this ball doesn’t swing both sides is being a bit one sided.
    As far@ Hal, I have never agreed with him that Barbados is a failed state neither do I agree there is some Barbados condition.
    I enjoy your contributions especially those about your son and his efforts to be a part of the modern world by being productive. Obviously,like myself you enjoy the simple but uplifting things of our beautiful island state. Like you I know that our government has managed the COVID- 19 crisis far better than the UK and USA.
    However, you are way too intelligent to immerse yourself in this profound ignorance about who live overseas and who live on the rock.
    I say to you and others what I have tried unsuccessfully to impress upon @ Hal- stay away for such undiluted horse dung.
    How can we in good conscience attempt to give Mr. Kothdiwala advice when we the elders , myself included, engage in totally unproductive foolishness.

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