Former Prime Minister Freundel Stuart Breaks Silence

Former Prime Minister Freundel Stuart in a rare public appearance since the last general election delivered a speech last Sunday at the DLP St. Philip North branch meeting. Thanks to Piece the Legend for the following audio snippet. So far the blogmaster has not been able to locate the full speech by Stuart (some people will say disappointing).

Additional link posted by Ping Ping.

 

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  • If this government was not so CORRUPT, this fraudulent pretender could never show that face or open that lying mouth..

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  • This man Fumbles need to get loss way in a Prison far in Siberia

    He, THE WORST PRIME MINISTER IN THE CARIBBEAN, should be beaten with a whip with many stripes.

    Which part of

    “…WE BAJANS DO NOT EVER WANT TO SEE YOUR SCVUNT AGAIN!!!” you cannot understand?

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  • Are we better off now
    Did he do a good job at the meeting. I think he did
    Why is it that some people listen just to reply and not to understand in their reply.
    I went to that meeting and could listen for two more hours I enjoyed that meeting

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  • Former prime minister Freundel Stuart has a democratic right to explain his side of what went wrong between 2008 and the general election of 2018.
    I personally do not think a speech is enough; he has to write a book. However he does it, the people of Barbados deserve an explanation.

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  • Who wants to listen to the same warm over nonsense based on the snippets leaking to the public. In the digital age it is not even possible to listen to his full presentation. This is instructive, a man out of touch with real world realities.

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  • “his side of what went wrong” [quote]
    Good sir, nothing went wrong? The GoB faced the worst global economic crisis since the great depression, which affected Barbados for longer than most places. Had it not been for his keen stuartship, Barbados may have collapsed. The administration provided solid and competent leadership, through a most difficult period.

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  • No one is challenging his right to share his side of the story. The debate is if it adds value to the DLP rebuild effort given the 30-0 zip result and the other bruises suffered including Donville. It makes sense for the DLP to distance itself from Stuart if it wants to be taken seriously.

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  • @ Northern Observer

    That is your view. But we still need to hear Mr Stuart’s.

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  • And let’s not forget all the DLP corruption with the thieving lowlife minorities robbing the treasury and pension fund and who believed themselves invincible and untouchable under that corrupt government, same as they do under this corrupt government.

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  • Are we being censored? Is BU a BLP voice?

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  • @ Drew February 19, 2020 8:51 AM
    “Did he do a good job at the meeting. I think he did..”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Cleary he did a fantastic job! But only in talking over the post mortem meeting of his politically-eviscerated administration.

    Why didn’t he bring that kind of competence and clarity of thought when he was in the driver seat of that DLP hearse to steer it away from the graveyard on George Street?

    Instead he sought to blame everyone except his administration’s incompetence; from the previous OSA administration to the credit rating agencies.

    This arro-ignorant approach to governance, under-girded by a platform of compulsive lies, was his party’s undoing which has now led Barbados into a stasis of a one-party state.

    He and his crookedly lying minions just stubbornly refused to listen to ‘impartial’ advice.

    Yet, to his credit, he did indeed accept total responsibility for the total collapse of his party’s ‘electoral’ juggernaut caused by focusing on MAM’s personal proclivities rather than their own track record of success.

    His pre-election 2013 forecast of success by using his pertinent analogy of a ‘two-horse race with one horse with three legs scratched’ clearly repeated itself with the odds of losing 30 to 0 certainly on his side in the delayed 2018 derby.

    The ‘blind’ sleeping giant has now gasped his last breath after leaving his indelible footprints on the political pages of Bajan history.

    Go away, Mr. DLP Magoo, you have played your part.

    Now let the superwoman (with the advice of our BU Tron) take Bajans down the Devaluation route to bring them to the zone of economic reality as she too (and her minions) continues to blame your ‘dead’ administration for the current stalling of the economic vehicle.

    The advice to Bajans is simple: Earn / save forex or your economy will shrivel up before 2023!

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  • @ Former PM. Silence is golden. Let them gather.

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2020/02/19/government-to-spend-more/

    Same ( sounds like spit ) different government.

    buh doan mine me cause I does write a whole lot of ( sounds like spite )

    As I here rambling I just read that there is going to be a 2 percent foreign exchange fee.

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  • Well…all i can say is someone had to say it..no bandwagon jumping Mia, get your backside in gear and dismantle the racism, apartheid and slave society that both nasty retarded, intellectually inferior governments allowed in Barbados.

    ” Such a statement of hypocrisy, they had 80 years to dismantle the racism, apartheid, disenfranchising of the majority population slave society, and what did they do, made absolutely sure those practices got even stronger, cemented and embedded, made sure 3 generations were robbed and marginalized repeatedly, so where is this fraudulent talk coming from, sounds like someone is trying to jump on the bandwagon, no you don’t, so jump the hell off until you dismantle the racism, apartheid and slave society that is Barbados, then and only then can you talk about fighting imperialism which you never wanted to fight before because it suited your greedy, selfish agendas just fine.”

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  • Miller…have you ever seen such shite, how many years have we been begging, cojoling, cussing these shitehounds in the parliament to dismantle slave society Barbados and the accompanying racism and apartheid, not to mention the thefts of estates, land and bank accounts from the vulerable people, the lack of opportuniites where they regularly steal opportunites from their own people to give to tiefing minorities…now suddenly there is Mia the bandwagon jumper talking about fighting imperialism, like if it’s her idea….she better dismantle their well worn vehicles used to rob the majority black population, using the same imperialism and stop talking shite.

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  • @Hants
    you done know this is the beginning, as some predicted, of unforeseeable events, which result in failure to meet IMF goals, however, without these ‘once in a generation’ events, things look good.

    Interested to understand this tidbit from the article you posted…”The bulk of expenditure will go towards debt payments – accounting for $910 million compared to the revised projection of $578.7 million.”

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  • In Freundel Stuart, the catastrophe of educational policy after independence crystallizes in an exemplary way.

    A child from the lowest social class studies for ten years (!!!) at the taxpayer’s expense. Then he becomes a lawyer. This is no wonder, because in Barbados almost nobody fails the exams. If Stuart had been born in Norway or Switzerland, he would have been a gardener or doorman today, but he would never have become a lawyer.

    How can we seriously expect that a figure who never saw a penny in his hildhood and youth can only come close to handling finances as a Prime?

    Anyone who criticises Stuart must at the same time criticise old Barrow’s rotten education policy, which completely ignored the fact that not all people are equally smart.

    I have nothing against a good mix of rich and poor ministers in a government. But when a government, as is regularly the case with the DLP, is made up of nothing more than run-down, impoverished figures, we should not be surprised if they swarm over the country like a plague of locusts.

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  • @Hal Austin February 19, 2020 8:58 AM “…he has to write a book.”

    And who is going to buy the book? The same people who comprehensively voted out the DLP?

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  • @ Hal
    There are certain things that call for maturity. There is a reason why we are in this morass. We live in a society where a former Prime Minister said that his long serving deputy was unfit to lead the country. He now works for her. I don’t hear anybody telling him to shut up or tell us why she was unfit.
    Errol Barrow lost a government I never heard any calls for him to apologize; Bernard StJohn lost a government I never heard about an apology; Owen Arthur lost a government ,I never heard about any need to apologize.
    We are in an advanced stage of puerility. The people determined that Stuart and company deserved electoral obliteration and they did just that. That’s the price Stuart paid for his gross incompetence.
    This is a democracy and any citizen has a right to speak march and protest. A time will come when Mottley will be voted out. Will we tell her to shut up and apologise?
    In many ways it really makes no difference because the Duopoly still rules and the eventual destruction of our island state as you and others have suggested, may well be on the way. We hope not.
    We gather at the river of ignorance and we drink freely.
    The Duopoly Rules

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  • ..”is made up of nothing more than run-down, impoverished figures, we should not be surprised if they swarm over the country like a plague of locusts.”

    Same can be said about the parasitic greedy, sell out BLP ministers…who came ..FROM THE SAME BACKGROUND….and who too morphed into the same common class thieves robbing their own people.

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  • @ William

    It is amazing how stupidity can convulse an entire nation like a blanket, especially a nation that claims to be highly educated. What a waste of money. After ten years the BU desperadoes do not want to hear the voice of the former prime minister.
    After nearly two years they are anxious to hear the voice, and watch the hand waving, of a president that is clearly out of her depth, that wanders like a lost ship in a desert; a president that appears not to understand what Cabinet government means and believes like some Imperial ruler, she must be at the centre of events.
    As I have said before, some of us write with an eye on future generations, not for the mealy-mouthed, keyboard terrorists who prowl BU like a big cat in some jungle.
    Stuart must be allowed to speak and he must give his version of events. He owes that to himself, to his party, and most of all, to the people of Barbados.

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  • Nobody wants to hear him except geezers like you all. Let him return to Mount Olympus and snooze.

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  • some of wunna dont want to hear stuart but wunna have time to listen to grenville filips!
    murdah

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  • By the way:

    The Nation newspaper has a story today about the backlash Stuart is receiving on social media. Therefore it is inaccurate to label anti Stuart comments posted as isolated to BU.

    Secondly, the issue the blogmaster has raised is that Stuart is doing irreparable harm speaking under the party banner. The blogmaster is entitled to have an opinion like any boy and Rh girl on the blog.

    Finally, Greene asked to gave Stuarts speech posted- it is no surprise one cannot be easily located. That said, although this blogmaster posted was was available. What does it say to anybody with a modicum of sense?

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  • @Hal Austin February 19, 2020 11:28 AM “Stuart must be allowed to speak.”

    And exactly who has been stopping Stuart from speaking?

    I don’t believe that Stuart has to apologize in May 2019 the people dealt with him as they saw fit, that for me is punishment enough, so no apology is needed or wanted, and “yes” he is free to speak, but are Bajans required to listen?

    Bajans are free to listen

    Bajans are free to not listen.

    However we do not owe Stuart our ears.

    And we don’t have to buy his book.

    Maybe we would rather use our money to buy water, or food or energy.

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  • @ Hal
    Public discourse has been hijacked by a new brand of jokers. There is a reason why the youth are disconnected from those in authority. The Duopoly has successfully destroyed any respect t for informed public discourse. There is a reason why students believe that disrespecting teachers and threatening and executing physical harm against them. Without lighthouses the ships would wreck. It’s no difference with a country or a blog. It’s like a diet: we are what we eat.

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  • @David February 19, 2020 11:32 AM “Nobody wants to hear him except geezers like you all. Let him return to Mount Olympus and snooze.”

    Cuhdear David man. I think that you are being unduly harsh on the elderly gentlemen of BU.

    Lolll!!!

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  • @William Skinner February 19, 2020 11:06 AM

    My granddaddy ran a very successful rum shop. My mummy worked in that shop mostly on Fridays and Saturdays, extremely busy days for rum shops

    I’ve been hearing rum talk from the time I was a toddler.

    i recognize rum talk when I hear it.read it.

    Sometimes here on BU too.

    Lolll!!!

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  • @ William

    A fish rots from the head. The concept of free speech is alien in Barbados. It is free as long as you are on my side. @William, Jamaica has just got a Bank of England licence to run a digital bank in the UK. Where is our bank?
    Persaud and the president cannot even run a meeting. We can talk and talk. Talking is cheap.

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  • More water outages in Christ Church, but the golf club has running water.

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  • https://www.facebook.com/DLPBB/

    Looking at the DLP’s Facebook page right now. Nothing there about Stuart’s speech.

    Can’t the DLP find a young techie who can update the webpage from her phone where ever she is?

    Certainly mu Little Susie could do it. Probably for nothing.

    Where are the young people of the DLP?

    I mean I love Errol Barrow as much as all the rest ‘o we who were born in the 1940’s and 1950’s but ErrolBarrow is the first thing see on the DLP’s Facebook page? Why?

    Why isn’t Verla there?

    Why isn’t Stuart’s speech there?

    Who/what is stopping the DLP from using their own social media to get their message out?

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  • Mark Elliot Zuckerberg born May 14, 1984

    Errol Barrow died 1 June 1987

    Zuckerberg was 3 years old when Barrow died, a mere toddler. Yet 36 years after Zuckerberg’s birth, and 33 years after Barrow’s death the DLP is still not using Facebook and other social media to effectively promote their cause.

    Why not?

    Who or what is stopping them?

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  • @ Silly Woman
    Hold on to your rum shop memories. They are disappearing from the landscape I am one of those who have had the pleasure of spending millions of hours in them. However in several instances the level of discourse on BU would have been unacceptable in any rum shop.

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  • RE• GP AKA “THE APOSTATE AND FALSE TEACHER”February 19, 2020 11:43 AM “some of wunna dont want to hear stuart but wunna have time to listen to grenville filips!”

    Freedom has Two Likkle Messages for the Trio of the Amigos, Led by The 300lb Dough Boy LEGION, his side kick GP AKA “THE APOSTATE AND FALSE TEACHER” and Madonna AKA MADdonna the “Self-Declared Bully and Proud of it,”…

    Please View Freedoms Tribute to Grenville Phillips 2 Posts “Time to Say Goodbye”

    Also, let it be known that Freedom has never met Mr.Phillips and is married to an Honourable and Good man for forty-one years. Freedom is able to recognise those who are Ethical and Principled and WILL STAND UP to those who try to Crush persons of such Caliber.

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  • Freundel has a fundamental right to speak and outline his, if not his party’s critique of the last 10 years for which he has been vilified. saying that he should speak as a private citizen is a nonsense: he was the leader of the DLP for the majority of the period and led it to a disastrous loss. it is for him to prosecute and defend that electoral trouncing and that he did.

    he was articulate and believable. too bad he did not articulate all this when he was in power and or during the election. that was his failing.

    but i must say i am a sucker for great political rhetoric and Froons is skillful at it. man, i could listen to him all day. magnificent speaker with a great command of the language and knows how to work the crowd. his takedown of Mottley using the oft repeated phrase to describe his reticence was nothing short of brilliant. reminds of the time he spanked Muscle Mary.

    talk yuh talk Froons. I hope this is not the last we hear of you.

    on another note DePeiza needs to take charge of the DLP and start to recruit some young talent with a world view to move Bim forward. the direction to take will be difficult to navigate but it is something that must be done. all political parties, indeed all people, from time to time must reinvent themselves according to the changing dynamics of the time. real change is needed now.

    we need an alternative to the worn BLP politics of borrow and spend and hope the next govt pays back. we need an alternative to the BLP friends and family politics. we need an alternative to the high burdensome taxation we are now suffering when they promised getting rid of the NRSL will bring down the price of good, when they railed against foreign exhange tax when in opposition now to implement it when in power. we need an alternative to say anything during election and do the opposite whilst in power: Maloney was a villain now he is a partner, Froons’ merc was not necessary but the PM pisses around in it, Hyatt hotel was not needed but it has been expanded.

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  • Was Verla DePieza at this weekend’s meeting at which Stuart spoke? if not, why not?

    The DLP like Solutions Barbados must be prepared to answer questions from the electorate.

    The people are not “the other..” The people are those whom you want to vote for you.

    You MUST talk to them.

    The DLP must court the people (Mia called it rubbing shoulders)

    For example if we had a difficulty in our marriage and my husband refused to talk with me for 21 months, I would assume that he was finished with me; and more likely that not, I would have moved on to new partner, and probably would have 1 year old twins by the time he got around to talking, somebody else would have got around to doing.

    Lolll!!!

    Time and tide wait on no man.

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  • @SW, “Who or what is stopping them?” The same thing that voted the entire lot of them out of office – the middle class, economic conditions around the world, bad weather, alignment of the planets! – In other words, anything else except their own incompetence! For ten whole years, Stuart found it unnecessary to speak to the nation about anything except of course to advise someone to get a good attorney and now finds himself unable to remain silent any longer. Well, all he has to do is to sit and he will find himself unable to speak because he will be sitting on where his voice and thinking is centered.

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  • Stupssseee!!!

    A woman couldda have two sets of triplets in 21 months, and it took our former Prime Minister 21 months to “crystalise his thoughts?”

    Loll!!!

    And we haven’t heard from his (OUR’s really) Cabinet yet. What about DEM? The colleted their pay cheques and now their pension cheques and now gone all silent on we?

    And expect we to vote from them in 2023?

    Lolll!!!

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  • Did Stuart mention Donville Inniss?

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  • A young Barbadian recently asked me two questions: first, why the DLP has run Barbados into the ground and why they hate the black population so much (because the masses suffered so much between 2008 and 2018).

    I think this second question answers the first question. If you are a white supremacist, you have to vote DLP. Because the DLP guarantees that the masses will remain forever economic slaves to their masters.

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  • @Hal Austin February 19, 2020 1:05 PM “More water outages in Christ Church, but the golf club has running water.”

    There was a ruptured 16 inch main in Christ Church. Yesterday the GOOD MEN of the Barbados Water Authority located the rupture and fixed the pipe. All is back to normal. All schools, day nurseries etc. re opened this morning.

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  • The BLP should broadcast this insane stammering on radio and television before the next election – to remind all Barbadians of what they committed at the ballot box in 2008 and 2013.

    The current government should carefully consider introducing additional neurological tests before admission to UWI. We cannot afford a new DLP regime in the face of the disastrous economic situation.

    A single additional DLP government would lead to mass panic among investors and an exodus of all key players. What would be left are those who do not know their decimals and consider Barbados to be the centre of the universe.

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  • When crooks run out of runway, they sell out each other, crooks of a feather sold out their own people together.

    sell out negros, sold out to the same people who engineered the racism and apartheid and kept their asses imprisoned, the silly negro mind will never learn.

    http://www.trendsdaily.co.za/news/ramaphosa-under-tension-as-zuma-threatens-to-spill-the-beans-i-will-not-go-down-alone/?fbclid=IwAR2wYrkEAp2OShUfXNgJU4pdoEtM7gzYyMJ05EcY-IT_pDYj_UiuzUInjFQ

    “Embattled former president Jacob Zuma allegedly made threats to spill all the beans and not go down alone!!
    He’s threatening to reveal who sold us at CODESA, ARMS Deal files and Who in the ANC conspired to kill Chris Hani, Etc!

    It’s Chaos in that NEC Meeting, they said Zuma says, “When the ANC came home from exile, none of us had a source of income, yet nearly all leaders “bought” houses in expensive suburbs.

    Newly Released 2019 Top 50 Highest Paid PSL Stars.

    Where did that money come from? Saint Mandela lived in a mansion bought by Openheimer, so did Sisulu and Govan. Raymond, Oliver and Mlangeni were “sponsored” by the Rothschild’s. Angel Thabo, Kgalema, Sexwale, were taken care of by the Ruperts. Many leaders acquired shares in white-owned companies.”

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  • Vincent Codrington

    Wuh Loss !! Was there nothing in the content of the speech to comment upon? No agreement? No alternate views? This is a zero sum game.

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  • Now for once a serious proposal:

    If the DLP wants to win elections again, young candidates in the party must first clean up and put Verda Pizza, Froon, Don and all the other socialist dinosaurs in the trash can. Those who, like Greene, do not want to distance themselves from the old guard are harming the party. Or does Greene want to harm the DLP as a mole? It’s possible, LOL.

    The young DLP members should take the purges in Italy, Japan and Germany from fascism after 1945 as a model. They could carry out a kind of de-Froonizification.

    If DLP President Verda Pizza continues to be photographed under a Pxxxville picture, her party will not even have to run for the next election.

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  • Stop Googling and cutting and pasting crap. It is boring. Get help. You are insane.

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  • Talking ite about how a British person was 1,000 pounds poorer in 2018 than in 2008. Sorry to hear that, ‘causin’ some o’ dem people living in the U.K. is me family

    But I would much have preferred to hear Stuart talk about what the DLP government cost Bajans between 2008-2018.

    I know that it cost be tens of thousands of dollars when my Littlest Johnnie was denied a student’s loan with less that 2 weeks notice, then I had to sell my soul to a foreign bank.

    Because I was too old to sell my body at the Garrison.

    Why Stuart don’t ask Ronald Jones about that? Why de two ‘o DEM don’t talk ’bout dat.

    They think that we did not notice?

    They think that we stupid?

    They think that we have forgiven them?

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  • More water outages in Christ Church, but the golf club has running water. (Quote)

    You are such an effing idiot.

    Are the areas in Christ Church that are without water in or near the same area as the golf course?

    What are the reasons why those areas are without water?

    Some of you on BU are big disappointments.

    You all ALLOW Hal Austin to come here everyday with misinformation and get away with it.

    You also allow him to come here everyday to say all of you are living under a blanket of stupidity and call you stupid, silly, appallingly ignorant, brain-dead, mealy-mouthed keyboard warriors and terrorists that learn by rote……. especially when you DON’T AGREE with him.

    Then he rubs salt in all your wounds by saying that he writes with an eye on future generations.

    You all ACCEPT everything he says about you and don’t even defend yourselves, because you’re scared of him.

    I bet all of you will come out to defend him now.

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  • Greene February 19, 2020 1:31 PM “on another note DePeiza needs to take charge of the DLP and start to recruit some young talent with a world view to move Bim.”

    Now ya talking sense.

    But where was Verla this weekend?

    I trust that the dinosaurs int trying to backraise Verla?

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  • BTW…..it was said that crooked bizzy’s staff went on strike recently over monies he was owing them for 10 WHOLE YEARS…bet you the staff don’t know that to pay them he would have to ripoff the treasury AND the pension fund too, as is the norm for these criminals and their lowlife negros in the parliament, guess there is no money to TIEF YET…

    “You all ACCEPT everything he says about you and don’t even defend yourselves, because you’re scared of him.”

    I guess you have never witnessed when we really have a go at Hal, it is nothing pretty and he stays off the blog for months, he is just our mascota now, easy to ignore.

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  • Nope. We are not afraid.

    ‘becausin’ he don’t rice we.

    We mostly ignore him because we realize that he is the one who is “living under a blanket of stupidity, stupid, silly, appallingly ignorant, brain-dead, a mealy-mouthed keyboard warrior, a terrorist who learnt by rote”. In addition he is old and cold, isolated and lonely. Probably hasn’t had a visitor to his home in the last 30 days, so we tolerate him…

    …but barely.

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  • @ Northern.

    I is only a little one door shop keeper but how come we restructure we debt service and yet the debt service gone up? Could this be the TRUE TRUE cost of the restructuring now showing it head?

    Cause I remember a few old nuisance on BU was asking bout the TRUE NET COST and dem say hush it is a state secret!

    Lord I going have to call MASSY now and cancel the new fridge I did order for the beer!

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  • So we spending $910 instead of the revised 578. Ok so let me travel slow cause some of the fellows on these blogs head hard when it come to figures. So $910M is more than $578M. So 910-578= $332M more we got to find to service we debt AFTER we restructure it. WAIT let me make sure no VAT not hiding in there cause again that could be more confusion! No it’s ok no vat in there.

    I don’t know why wunna like to bring up these small matters for. After all we do is spend bout 50% per cent more than we budget for! Lord I wonder if WO fees in there as a one off payment?

    Anyhow I ain t holding my breath for no explanation.

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  • @John A February 19, 2020 2:46 PM “Lord I going have to call MASSY now and cancel the new fridge I did order for the beer!”

    Please don’t do that. We BU people, we don’t enjoy warm beer.

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  • John A.

    I don’t know a lick bout accounting but I am sure you will teach me and the others like me.

    But if you didn’t service you external debt on the last budget and you got to service it now, after the settlement, wouldn’t it be fair to expect an increase on the up coming budget?

    Don’t kill muh now. Just asking cause I am totally ignorant.

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  • @ William Skinner February 19, 2020 11:06 AM

    I have called him a joker on this Blog and also referred to the fact that all he wanted to do was sell land. A man totally bereft of ideas: he could not even get Barbados’ income and expenditure balanced. An over rated demi-god The ingrate would not even repair the Public Library. I hold him in mind for that also.

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  • @John A February 19, 2020 3:05 PM “So we spending $910 instead of the revised 578. Ok so let me travel slow cause some of the fellows on these blogs head hard when it come to figures. So $910M is more than $578M. So 910-578= $332M more we got to find to service we debt AFTER we restructure it.”

    Haven’t passed a math test since the 11+ but I noticed that sum too, and I get the same answer as you, and my belly start to hurt right away.

    Because we women don’t have any balls to get squeeze, but belly searchers hurt just as bad.

    I here wondering just where in my belly I gine get hit in the budget.

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  • all parties blame each other. how long can that go on?

    i suspect that every time the BLP is questioned about some tax increase or economic faux pas implemented by them they will say we had to do it because of the last 10 years. and bajans without thinking will say yeah that “bloody DLP govt ” and MAM and the BLP will walk away with a smile on their faces and a pleasurable nod to their friends and family.

    ask unnuh selves why did the BLP hire a two bit firm called white oaks right off the bat. we were never told why, only some flippant explanation that they were the right fit. then there is all these capital projects involving a man cursed by the BLP during the election. simply ask unnuh selves Cui bono?

    the imposition of all these taxes, on whom will they fall? then look at who got exempted from VAT and who got tax forgiveness? for godsakes why would a country in deep debt not try to collect some taxes, not even 10cents on the dollar? again Cui bono?

    and how could govt forgive VAT? it is not theirs? that is money / taxes paid by customers to govt via a company. if it is not paid to govt it is technically theft from the customers and govt has no right to give it away.

    and really what gets my gall, is the Drug Dealers invitation to the opening of parliament. that has never been explained if it can be.

    so yeah keep blaming the DLP for the past 10 years whilst we wilt under the next 5

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  • “In addition he is old and cold, isolated and lonely.”

    even worse he only just found out that the cousins in buckingham palace made him, without his knowledge and permission pay off slave masters for enslaving his own ancestors all the way up to 2015 from the 1960s or 70s….now how cold is that, and they call me cold…, with all the british limey shite him and Greene puff up their chests and post on here, they never knew..lol

    one must sometimes be kind to pets…

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @Northern, quite “adroitly” said above …. I particularly liked “Had it not been for his keen stuartship, Barbados may have collapsed. The administration provided solid and competent leadership, through a most difficult period.”

    But be careful that your tongue don’t impregnate your cheeks dem as you got it upside in dey so deep!

    @Greene, there is a time for sweet political oratory … No doubt Stuart still has some verbal awesomeness to behold…. But senor, any one who lied so wantonly and presided over such an abjectly corrupt, inattentive and callous administration is NOT THE ONE for sweet political prose.

    He should NOT be offering public political comment to party nor nation…30 -0 is a statement of complete REJECTION…. If you are that leader then leave the spotlight.

    Hal is right… Time for him to sit back with a guy like Bobby Morris maybe with advisory input from some experienced Brit or US journalist and write about that stunning dismissal by the Bajan electorate…. In detail explaining the lies, the mistakes, any successes.

    Pull the scab back and talk about DT; talk about why we got here again after the pain of the Sandiford problems; talk about how his government seemingly shafted so many Black Bajans with the CLICO scandal…. TALK boldly.

    Write about Inniss and Sinclair and his education minister.

    Write for historical clarification… but BS speeches…No sireee.

    Many here loved to listen to Tom’s oratory and Don B was the closest thing to orgasmic bliss just from political oratory.

    So what if Stuart can reach those heights … he is forever the freaking utterly most failed PM in Barbados history and we really do not want to hear his rhetoric (and excuses or sweet words) NOW.

    That makes no sense!

    Yes he needs to apologize for the inane comment re his speaker, re his blatant lie on Cahill knowledge, for sewerage flowing in the streets and for any number of other callous acts… and then he needs to ride off into wherever failed politicians ride to… Go research his book!

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  • Hal knows exactly what i mean, but am sure Al Sharpton whom he wanted kicked out of UK for representing Black people’s rights against racism in the killing of the young man years and years ago, can’t remember if it was a police killing, but i remember Hal’s article very well, “we don’t want his kind here, send him back to US” it said…

    well am sure Al Sharpton probably still can’t stop laughing his ass off, because if nothing else, he would be well aware what the Brits did to the Caribbean African descended post the Windrush scam…forcing them without their knowledge to pay off slavemasters for enslaving their ancestors and for decades is no fun…..so we can ignore Hal in all his comeuppance glory.

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  • Greene

    Why shouldn’t the DLP get blamed for the “lost decade”?

    If they were still in power today they would still be blaming the last recession which was over in 2009, high oil prices and Brexit but not their incompetence.

    The BLP government was only in power less than two years they would be coming off the same recession (10yrs) after with less FX and a more run down country that it was when the DLP took over. Brexit saga is still going on and oil prices are highter than 15, 16, 17,
    Yet the can point to things like fixing the sewage plants, garbage trucks and road works for examples.

    Do not tell me anything about they borrowed money because over the lost decade the DLP borrowed, taxed, printed – tourism records, oil prices at lowest in the 15, 16, 17. yet the only thing done was the completion of the st john policlinic (for political reasons)

    If DLP to to blamed for the suffering of the lost decade then why should the BLP be blamed for the suffering of the last two years?

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  • I know it is not the form for BU to discuss ideas, too taxing. But if the report in Barbados Today is accurate, then according to this anonymous former DLP minister, there are explanations for the failure of the Stuart government.
    But, his recall does not help, since there is an appalling ignorance of the performance of the global economy in thee immediate aftermath of the 2007/08 global crisis.
    How long did it take the global economy to return to growth? What were the macro-economic policies, led by the G20, that are credited for this positive return? And who said it was the worst crisis in 100 years? When did Brexit become an issue in the UK, and what was its impact on the UK economy?
    Nearly two years after laving office senior DLP politicians, and their academic supporters (ie Frank Alleyne and his council of advisers), cannot even get their facts right. All this adds to their perceived incompetence.
    But instead of debating ideas, the prowlers and snake-grabbers are out seeking blood. It is the Bajan Condition during full moon. A failed nation.

    Former Prime Minister Freundel Stuart is receiving backing for his defense of the Democratic Labour Party’s (DLP) stewardship of the country in the ten years prior to losing all 30 seats at the May 2018 polls.
    This morning a former member of the Stuart Cabinet, who did not want to be identified, stressed that while he is no longer involved in active politics, he too stood proudly behind the DLP’s handling of the country’s affairs during a period which is referred to by some as the “lost decade” because of the economic inertia which the country experienced.
    Like Stuart, the former minister contends that the government at the time was forced to contend with some very tough external challenges and that the Stuart-led administration would have done the best that they could have to weather the storm. However, he made it clear that he was by no means suggesting that mistakes were not made.
    “I view our tenure two years later, the same way that I viewed it two hours after. I thought and still believe that it was a challenging period but there were achievements for sure. It was a difficult time to govern and I was part of a government that had its fair share of international challenges. I do not accept any characterization of some decade where nothing took place,” he said.
    The former minister was referring to issues such as uncertainty within the major tourism source market of Britain due to Brexit, the world recession of 2008, instability of oil prices which hit record highs and a struggling international business sector. During the DLP tenure Barbados experienced 23 credit downgrades from the main international and regional credit rating agencies as well as falling foreign reserves which threatened the stability of the dollar.
    However, in his interview with Barbados TODAY, the source contended that there was not much he could point to during the two-year tenure of the Mia Mottley-led administration that would indicate that Barbadians’ lives have been improved.

    “If we are going to describe our ten years as a period of nothingness, then how would you describe the last two years? Other than spin, hype and PR, what is there to show? If we were lost prior 2018, are we now found? Where are all the jobs? Where are all the promised construction? The schools are in a mess and crime is out of control, taxes are killing people and people can’t get no money to raise their children. Crime is in a mess, could you imagine that 49 people got murdered last year. If ours was the decade of nothing, then I just want somebody to tell me what we should call the last two years?” he questioned.
    Last Sunday a resolute Stuart, maintained that the DLP administration, tasked with tackling the fallout from the world’s greatest economic crisis since the Great Depression had performed admirably in the circumstances.
    “The Democratic Labour Party between 2008 and 2018 did not have the luxury that Barrow had or that Tom Adams had or Sandiford or Arthur had. We had to deal with the worst crisis that happened in the western world since the Great Depression and some people say was the worst in 100 years…The crisis with which we had to deal was much more severe,” said Stuart.(Quote)

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  • The full speech by Stuart can be viewed here.

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  • why didn’t the DLP collect the VAT that was forgiven? I would have help them/ made thing easier for them a whole lot if they did!

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  • @ John2

    But don’t forget W0 say they negotiated a 2 year moratorium on debt payments, so based on that the debt service for the next 2 years should be way lower. So if we budgeted $578M and spend $910M where the 2 year moratorium went?

    Or if the moratorium in there and we still over spend by $300M, what exactly did WO negotiate in bullet payments.

    You see when these miserable people like Vincent, Walter and Hal was asking about the TRUE net cost of the exercise nobody didn’t answer.

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  • @Hal quoting from Barbados Today, which is seemingly quoting a former DLP Cabinet Minister “This morning a former member of the Stuart Cabinet, who did not want to be identified, stressed that while he is no longer involved in active politics, he too stood proudly behind the DLP’s handling of the country’s affairs during a period which is referred to by some as the “lost decade”

    So this member of the political class was happy to take the taxpayers money as wages, and happy to take the tax payers money as a lifetime pension, but is afraid to identify himself?

    And we are supposed to take him seriously?

    Surely you jest dear Hal.

    We can’t, we won’t discuss ideas with a duppy.

    Stupssseee!!!

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  • @ john2 February 19, 2020 4:21 PM “why didn’t the DLP collect the VAT that was forgiven?”

    Why you so like asking difficult questions?

    You is bare trouble den.

    Where our friend Mariposa to answer your hard question?

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  • talk talk talk about everything thing thing and deliver little little little

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  • “why didn’t the DLP collect the VAT that was forgiven? I would have help them/ made thing easier for them a whole lot if they did!”

    both useless governments refused to collect the VAT, it was stolen by the tiefing business people over a period of 2 decades, particularly the Courts VAT..they just collected the money at Point of Sale and kept it, wholesale theft, and these shitehounds allowed them, this government wrote it off instead of jailing the thieves, they never would have allowed you to collect a dime, the bribing was already in…they would have jailed you instead.

    No honest government does that…1 billion dollars of the people’s money stolen by their briber friends and no one held accountable.

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  • It must be the height of stupidity – of the Mount Olympus kind – a former minister of a Cabinet of Barbados would retreat to anonymity and the traditional media is happy to run with it.

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  • Come to think of it I sure a minister say that the SUCCESSFUL debt restructuring was going save we $1billion in 4 years. Then another top Advisor to the state so ” No we will save $500M Over that period. Then I hear how W0 get we a 2 year moratorium on payments that will give us ” considerable breathing space.”

    Now all the sweet talk and tra la la done, we spending $332 M more than budgeted servicing debt in year one after the claimed successful restructuring.

    Somebody help muh hey!

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  • Thanks Ping Pong, will update the blog.

    #denial

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  • @ David.

    Good point. Lol

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  • as long as they are not forgiven they can be collected in the future. tax forgiveness is final. Cui bono? what deals were struck?

    it is instructive that the unions marched holding out for 23% increase or something so, with the private sector and the BLP and in 2 minutes of negotiation with the BLP settled for 5% when taxes and cost of living rose beyond 5% but look at what the private sector got?

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  • Austin it seems you want democracy for Mr Stuart to speak which is fine but do not want persons to oppose such.How unreasonable can you be?Let me be clear i do not want to hear anything from Mr Stuart or any of the ex ministers.They had their opportunity and in my view outside of Mr Sealy were dismal failures and were rightfully crushed in 2018.This should tell you how most bajans feel about them.

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  • It must be the height of stupidity – of the Mount Olympus kind – a former minister of a Cabinet of Barbados would retreat to anonymity and the traditional media is happy to run with it.

    I fully agree.

    The minister was/is a coward and his request for anonymity is indicative of his acceptance that they failed.

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  • An insight to the mindset mentality that formed our government.

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  • no it is not. it is simply indicates that he wants not to be named. maybe it is against the code of his present employment. it would be better to criticise what he said

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  • quote] An insight to the mindset mentality that formed our government.]quote

    please

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  • GREENE

    You didn’t answer the question!
    the country was in deep debt under the DLP, why didnt they try to collect even 10c per dollar?

    it would have help DLP weather the recession and would have taken money from the BLP supporters – less money to support Mia – both of which would have help the DLP to do better in the elections.

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  • Greene

    the whole of Barbados know who that anonymous minister is

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  • listen to Freundel speechifying. tangentially he handled that and other issues rather well, dont ypu think?

    even so the BLP has a chance to rectify that issue, why didnt they?

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  • Let the DLP continue to defend its management of the period termed the lost decade. This time it will be 40-0 zip.

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  • https://barbadostoday.bb/2020/02/17/amazon-says-it-will-begin-collecting-17-5-per-cent-vat/

    Dear Amazon,
    Can you create a Barbados VAT collection department and put me in charge?
    I promise that I will collect every penny that is due.
    I have an account in Barbados, so there is no fear that monies collected will not be deposited.
    Kr,
    TheO

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  • @Greene

    Does any sensible person believe that a BLP or any government would have been able to resuscitate the economy in less than two years? Give us a Rh break.

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  • David,

    have i said that?

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  • David,

    i dont think so. who said that? 5 years and a lot of luck perhaps

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  • @ Greene

    This Mottley government is trapped like a hare in oncoming headlights. What is its economic policy? Apart from something called stabilisation, it has none. It defaulted on its debt, then claim its foreign reserves are growing. If you do not pay your debt and continue to be paid, of course your bank account will rise.
    It talks about people in the Diaspora should invests in Barbados; but invest in what? Where are the investment vehicles? It is a government that talks, and talks, and talks, but is lost.
    Two years is more than enough to halt decline and set out on growing a strong and progressive economy. But you need sound policies, not fancy speeches..

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  • @Hal

    dont look back now. but they are coming

    spot on, mate. that notwithstanding she ought to be given a bit more time.

    my gripe with Mottley is that she flits from one thing to the other, is always butting in on other ministers and has not articulated how she will arrest the murder problem as she does for everything under the sun

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  • @ Greene

    No attention to details. Short attention span. Needs a constant high – a crowd to be preaching to. @Grn, empty vessels make the most noise.

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  • John A

    in that case the external debt that was in the restructuring should not be on the books yet.

    The only other debt I can think of was the loan from republic bank to top up QEH, NHC and TB and that would come any where near 300M.

    Will probably have to wait for additional information/break down in the budget.

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  • would not come

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  • @ John2

    We will wait for the next central bank report rather than speculate.

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  • Two years is enough says who? The great economist in the cold UK? Go and watch rugby do.

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  • I think budget is march, CBB report late april the earliest. a break down may be out before either. Maybe the junior MOF will provide the info soon.
    I think he has an eye on BU.

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  • @John2

    Search BU archives for Straughn, he is on record to say that there is no value to be found on BU pages Lol.

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  • @Greene February 19, 2020 5:34 PM “…maybe it is against the code of his present employment…”

    And you trying to tell us that some company or individual has hired a former DLP Cabinet Minister?

    ROFLMFO!!!

    Wuhloss!

    Hold ma belly!

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  • i suspect that every time the BLP is questioned about some tax increase or economic faux pas implemented by them they will say we had to do it because of the last 10 years. and bajans without thinking will say yeah that “bloody DLP govt ” and MAM and the BLP will walk away with a smile on their faces and a pleasurable nod to their friends and family.

    ask unnuh selves why did the BLP hire a two bit firm called white oaks right off the bat. we were never told why, only some flippant explanation that they were the right fit. then there is all these capital projects involving a man cursed by the BLP during the election. simply ask unnuh selves Cui bono?

    the imposition of all these taxes, on whom will they fall? then look at who got exempted from VAT and who got tax forgiveness? for godsakes why would a country in deep debt not try to collect some taxes, not even 10cents on the dollar? again Cui bono?

    and how could govt forgive VAT? it is not theirs? that is money / taxes paid by customers to govt via a company. if it is not paid to govt it is technically theft from the customers and govt has no right to give it away.

    and really what gets my gall, is the Drug Dealers invitation to the opening of parliament. that has never been explained if it can be.
    Xxxxxxxxxx

    I love reading from afar.

    Exposes the Hyprocisy and fooling of the Voting Public.

    I am convinced that if Bajans CONTINUE TO go with either BLP or DLP they DESERVE EVERYTHING HAPPENING TO THEM WHILST LIVING IN SUFFERATION WHILST THE POLITICIANS ARE PUNCHING ABOVE THEIR WEIGHT ON ELECTRONIC SCALES.

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  • Baje

    Who do you think they should go with next election?

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