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Submitted by Grenville Phillips II,

The year 2020 was my year for playing shots – using Clyde Mascoll’s recent cricket analogy. This was to be the year of making significant investments, all of which would have benefited Barbados and Barbadians. Then Clyde got in the way.

Like so many other Barbadians, I have a mortgage. The only benefit of a mortgage is that it allows you to occupy your house about 10 years earlier. For that privilege, you get to pay the bank a lot of interest.

The amount that you borrow is called the principal. The amount that you repay is about 2.5 times the amount that you borrow. Therefore, if you borrowed $500,000, you get to repay the bank about $1.25M over 30 years.

The amount that you repay the bank, over what you borrowed, is called interest. The interest is about 1.5 times what you borrowed. So, if you borrowed $500,000, then you must repay the bank the $500,000 you borrowed, plus 1.5 times that amount, or an additional $750,000 in interest.

The amount paid to the bank during the first 10 years is almost the same as the amount you borrowed. While most of the amount you pay during the first 10 years goes towards the interest payments, some goes towards the principal.

If you had a responsible employer, then you likely have a retirement savings plan with an insurance company, or a bank. When you reach 55 years of age, the retirement funds must be paid to you. I encouraged persons to use those funds to pay the remaining principal, rather than paying interest for the next decade or two.

Over 5 years ago, I started warning people that the DLP would try to tax our retirement savings. By that time, they had taxed everything that could be taxed, and retirement savings was perhaps the only thing left. So, I tried offering economic growth proposals that did not require additional taxes.

Trying to get anyone to listen to economic growth plans 5 years ago appeared to be impossible. The national: accounting, economics, banking, and business organisations seemed to have only one aim – to get the DLP out of office, and the BLP in. The Chamber of Commerce actually passed a regulation to prevent me from sharing our economic growth plan with their members. That regulation is still in place – but only for me.

Even the DLP would not listen – they seemed to have the same agenda. So, one year later, our economic growth plan was published for public scrutiny, and Solutions Barbados was formed to contest the general election, and implement the plan for the benefit of the public.

If families could pay off their mortgages early, then everybody wins. Families would have significantly more disposable income to ‘play shots’, the government would reap the tax benefits of that additional spending, and banks would need to compete for short-term business growth loans – or go under.

During the general elections, I was on a panel with Clyde, where he told the audience that our plan was ‘voodoo economics’. So, we provided our anti-corruption, quality management, low-tax economic growth plan to individual economists and accountants, and received a very favourable report.

The independent expert confirmed that we could achieve $1B in surplus during our first year, without borrowing, laying off a single public worker, or reducing salaries. He further noted that all political parties pushing high-tax austerity needed to review our plan.

After the general elections, Prime Minister Mottley, to her credit, acknowledged that the BLP did not have all the answers, and instructed her party that all ideas must contend. But Clyde would not. The BERT leadership publicly admitted that they never looked at our economic growth plan, and dismissively noted that they would never look at it.

Last week, BERT signalled that they had failed miserably to grow the economy. All they had to show for the past 20 months is: severe austerity, high taxes, zero economic growth, and arrogant public relations to hide their gross incompetence.

Last year I reached 55 years – but it was too late for me. The clown car had rolled up the year before, and Clyde and company tumbled out – and started performing tricks. They did what I was warning that Sinckler would do – but wisely chose not to. They confiscated much of my retirement savings, and passed a lunatic law to make that theft legal.

Mercifully, they left me with just enough that I could still pay off the mortgage, and start playing shots this year. But that was too much voodoo for Clyde. So, they decided not to release all my money until 2033. They have now entered the comedy phase of their routine – telling us to ‘play shots’. With what Clyde, with what?

Grenville Phillips II is a Chartered Structural Engineer and President of Solutions Barbados. He can be reached at NextParty246@gmail.com


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356 responses to “Too Much Voodoo”

  1. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    For all of us @ David. To what avail this forum from a supposed political candidate who has been proven to be spewing unvalidated theories!

    To what avail YOU facilitating him with his unvalidated details!

    You take YOUR site seriously I must imagine so when an essayist writes weekly and is shown to be ill-equipped on his facts and yet YOU allow him to use your site to continue his verbiage then you are as complicit in his folly.

    You are too smart bro, so don’t lets play another game here.

    If you want to allow Grenville to stroke himself weekly on your site despite him being taken apart as totally unprepared with facts and currently bordering on being an absolute liar (re an accountant has field tested his tax regime, yet he refuses to provide data) then that is surely your prerogative…. I am just bemused as to WHY YOU WOULD DO THAT!

    We are all sensible boys and girls here and surely a few savant types like @Pieces…so no silly games, senor!

    I gone.


  2. This represents many people’s inner voice in today’s world. THIS WORLD ENCOURAGES AND PROMOTES DOMINANCE AND POWER. However, there are many others like Grenville Phillips 2 who are GENTLE AND APPLY SOFTER APPROACH IN FACING THIS WORLD, which never should be perceived as weak, THE FIERCEST STORMS RISE FROM THE CALMEST SEAS.

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  3. Some of us are now catching up that GP11 IS INADEQUATE!

    LIKE I TELL MY STUDENTS, I USE A SIMPLE MARKING SYSTEM, THAT HAD HIM FIGURED OUT EARLY O CLOCK

    ALL THE FACTS=> ALL THE MARKS
    HALF FACTS=> HALF MARKS
    NO FACTS=> NO MARKS


  4. I guess it was necessary for you to have facts and figures before you could put aside your gentlemanly tendency to be generous and give the benefit of the doubt. It is also normal to believe that a qualified engineer must have intellectual capacity worthy of consideration.

    You and I had all that in common and any review of my earliest responses to Grenville would reflect that reality.

    But here’s the thing – I learn from all kinds of experiences and one of them is literature. Agatha Christie’s ace detective Poirot’s method was to engage all persons around a murder to determine their character. He did this by just letting them talk. I have adopted that practice and I have discovered that Hercule Poirot/Agatha Christie
    methods are invaluable and place me one step ahead in character assessment. But unlike Piece and GP, I may see the signs but often question my assessment, unwilling to write a person off immediately. But there is a limit to my generosity!

    After months of reading his submissions, I did not need to see Grenville’s tax policies to know that they would be rubbish. He left clues ALL OVER THE BLOG that they could be nothing else. He LIES when lies are unnecessary. His brain is strangely deficient. He is childish. He is unteachable. He has a serious problem with criticism. He thinks he is “better” than others. And he tries to cover it all up by hiding behind a holier than thou Christian facade culminating in his silly “sermons’ every Monday. These tax policies prove what i have been saying for weeks. Grenville does not fully research or seek to understand his subject matter. He strings things together in a slap dash, hodge podge, willy nilly manner without regard for context. He does not even understand context. He does not provide any evidence to back up his submissions. .

    The same man who writes the “sermons” is the man who wrote this tax policy. There are not two men. Only one!

    And to quote him –
    .

    “Be guided accordingly!”


  5. @ Donna

    I think what many don’t understand about VAT is this. Let’s take a supermarket for example. Traditionally their pretax profit is low around 2% of sales , however their sales are large. So they collect a hell of alot of VAT as an agent for the state, but have a small pretax percentage per dollar sold.

    Then you may have a boutique say, their mark up is higher so their pretax may be 6% of sales, but the amount they collect in VAT is way lower than the supermarket.

    The point therefore is that high VAT collection does not translate to high profit for the business, it is the nature of the business that dictates this. That is why when we discuss corporation tax one must never include VAT in the discussion, as it can differ like night and day depending on the nature of the business and is based on sales and not profit. The ground rule is we are all only tax agents for the state’s Vat nothing more and nothing less. Unless we plan to “carry em way” as we say here. Apparently though that is not a crime as the last forgiveness by the state showed when $400M in VAT was FORGIVEN.


  6. WHAT ARE THE IDEAS THAT BU HAS TO OFFER AS TO WHAT IS DEEMED A FREE MARKET?

    WHAT IS DISPLAYED HERE IS ABOUT FORCE THROUGH SOCIALISM AND GOVERNMENT MEDDLING IN THE ECONOMY!

    Now observe that a Free Market does not level men down to some common denominator—that THE INTELLECTUAL CRITERIA OF THE MAJORITY DO NOT RULE A FREE MARKET OR A FREE SOCIETY—and that the exceptional men, the innovators, the intellectual giants, are not held down by the majority. In fact, it is the members of this exceptional minority who lift the whole of a free society to the level of their own achievements, while rising further and ever further.

    A Free Market is a continuous process that cannot be held still, an upward process that demands the best (the most rational) of every man and rewards him accordingly. While the majority have barely assimilated the value of the automobile, the creative minority introduces the airplane. The majority learn by demonstration, the minority is free to demonstrate. The “philosophically objective” value of a new product serves as the teacher for those who are willing to exercise their rational faculty, each to the extent of his ability. Those who are unwilling remain unrewarded—as well as those who aspire to more than their ability produces. The stagnant, the irrational, the subjectivist have no power to stop their betters . . . .

    THE MENTAL PARASITES—THE IMITATORS WHO ATTEMPT TO CATER TO WHAT THEY THINK IS THE PUBLIC’S KNOWN TASTE—are constantly being beaten by the innovators whose products raise the public’s knowledge and taste to ever higher levels. It is in this sense that the Free Market is ruled, not by the consumers, but by the producers. The most successful ones are those who discover new fields of production, fields which had not been known to exist.

    A given product may not be appreciated at once, particularly if it is too radical an innovation; but, barring irrelevant accidents, it wins in the long run. It is in this sense that the Free Market is not ruled by the intellectual criteria of the majority, which prevail only at and for any given moment; the Free Market is ruled by those who are able to see and plan long-range—and the better the mind, the longer the range.

    ALL THE EVILS, ABUSES, AND INIQUITIES, POPULARLY ASCRIBED TO BUSINESSMEN AND TO CAPITALISM, WERE NOT CAUSED BY AN UNREGULATED ECONOMY OR BY A FREE MARKET, BUT BY GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION INTO THE ECONOMY.

    http://tundratabloids.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/thomas-Sowell-on-takers-of-society.jpg


  7. @Dee Word

    Do you know why some software instructors are of the view students should be taught to write virus code? If you understand the logic to such a view you will understand the blogmaster’s position.


  8. @Donna

    Let me show you how one is fooled here by looking at VAT benefiting a companies profit. We will keep it simple by comparing say a small supermarket vs a boutique in a mall both doing business on the same day.

    Monday sales.

    Boutique sells $ 1175 for the day
    VAT on above is $175
    Sales net of VAT $1000
    pretax @6% of sales =$60

    supermarket sells $ 3525
    VAT on above $525
    sales net of VAT $3000
    pretax @2% of sales= 60

    So both make the same pretax profit but one collects 3 times the VAT for the state on Mondays sales because it sells 3 times as much.

    The above is why one must never discuss vat when discussing profit and corporation tax

    Hope this helps to explain the mystery know as VAT


  9. HERE IS WHAT BARBADOS NEEDS …LESS GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION/REGUTLATIONS/ CONTROLE, TO ALLOW A FREE MARKET ECONOMY TO PROSPER

    WHERE ARE YOUR IDEAS BU, ALL FREEDOM HEARS ARE YOUR COMPLAINTS AND CONDEMNATION YOU ARE STUCK AT VAT WHAT ELSE HAVE YOU TO OFFER?

    In a Free Economy, where no man or group of men can use physical coercion against anyone, economic power can be achieved only by voluntary means: by the voluntary choice and agreement of all those who participate in the process of production and trade. In a free market, all prices, wages, and profits are determined—not by the arbitrary whim of the rich or of the poor, not by anyone’s “greed” or by anyone’s need—but BY THE LAW OF SUPPLY AND DEMAND. The mechanism of a Free Market reflects and sums up all the economic choices and decisions made by all the participants. Men trade their goods or services by mutual consent to mutual advantage, according to their own independent, uncoerced judgment. A man can grow rich only if he is able to offer better values—better products or services, at a lower price—than others are able to offer.

    Wealth, in a Free Market, is achieved by a free, general, “democratic” vote—BY THE SALES AND THE PURCHASES OF EVERY INDIVIDUAL WHO TAKES PART IN THE ECONOMIC LIFE OF THE COUNTRY. Whenever you buy one product rather than another, you are voting for the success of some manufacturer. In addition, in this type of voting, every man votes only on those matters which he is qualified to judge: on his own preferences, interests, and needs. No one has the power to decide for others or to substitute his judgment for theirs; no one has the power to appoint himself “the voice of the public” and to leave the public voiceless and disfranchised.

    INTELLECTUAL FREEDOM CANNOT EXIST WITHOUT POLITICAL FREEDOM; POLITICAL FREEDOM CANNOT EXIST WITHOUT ECONOMIC FREEDOM; A FREE MIND AND A FREE MARKET ARE CONSEQUENCES.

    The Free Market represents the social application of an objective theory of values. Since values are to be discovered by man’s mind, men must be free to discover them—to think, to study, to translate their knowledge into physical form, to offer their products for trade, to judge them, and to choose, be it material goods or ideas, a loaf of bread or a philosophical treatise. SINCE VALUES ARE ESTABLISHED CONTEXTUALLY, EVERY MAN MUST JUDGE FOR HIMSELF, IN THE CONTEXT OF HIS OWN KNOWLEDGE, GOALS, AND INTERESTS. Since values are determined by the nature of reality, it is reality that serves as men’s ultimate arbiter: if a man’s judgment is right, the rewards are his; if it is wrong, he is his only victim.

    https://quotefancy.com/media/wallpaper/3840×2160/1906127-Friedrich-August-von-Hayek-Quote-You-can-have-economic-freedom.jpg

    http://tundratabloids.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/thomas-Sowell-on-takers-of-society.jpg


  10. Keep up the effort Grenville.

    Consider these as living documents, gather the input and modify at a later date.

    The effort to label and package with you with a stamped “Best used before 2023” continues unabated.

    Hang in there my friend. Don’t close up shop.
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    Disclaimer: All. Don’t take comments as directed towards you; these are general comments. Read and ignore or just scroll by.


  11. Correction…LESS GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION/REGULATIONS/ CONTROL, TO ALLOW A FREE MARKET ECONOMY TO PROSPER


  12. John A,

    I think that it is true that many people do not understand VAT but in some instances they have not had it explained to them in a manner as simple as you and Artax have here. These people are not running for political office and expecting, as leader of a party, to become prime minister in the event of an election victory.

    Anyone who cannot understand what you and Artax have done here SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY. To continue to do so is not serving the county’s interests. My only consolation is that Barbadians are not as foolish as Americans. He cannot fool enough of them to win an election. But still, “Make sure is better than cocksure.”

    PS. I maintain that VAT is not a tax that the government has the right to forgive. It was money taken from the customer under false pretext. It was our money. We paid a higher price for the commodity than was advertised. Other taxes do not come out of a customer’s pocket and the government can forgive as it deems fit. But what happened here is that government took money out of the pockets of some poor people and gave it to some pretty rich folk.


  13. @ Donna

    Yes that analysis is 100% correct. One could call this a case of theft of the costumers money due to the state but stolen by the collection agents.

    It is a clear case of state funds being stolen and should have been dealt with it as such. If government was afraid to press for collection, then they should of called in a foreign debt collection agency to pursue the thieves and offer them say 25% of all they can collect.

    That move truly angered me as I have paid in mine every 60 days religiously from its inception. That is why I say we don’t have a bad taxation system, however we have a piss poor collection system.


  14. After all this and you could come with that comment! You are not so stupid that you cannot understand that this man has NO CAPACITY to be prime minister. It is not that his proposals need tweeking or that they are flawed in a minor way. They are ludicrous! And he cannot even understand the most basic accounting concepts when explained so simply to him. His claim that any professional lauded these proposals and confirmed that they would wipe out the deficit and produce a surplus of $! billion dollars could only be a lie and that is why he cannot name the professional.

    Bearing all this in mind, one would have to ask if YOU have a hidden agenda!

    You are now alone in the company of Looney Tunes. That should tell you something.

  15. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @Donna, no arguments with your overall assessments above… And yes in life as in blogging I give folks a huge benefit of the doubt.

    The fact is also that Phillips was a man who translated words into action; I had direct interface with him on that regard previously so I avoided calling him a liar or a con or pretender or any of that.

    However, I very clearly called him OUT from day 1 for what I ‘termed’ his 6th form Solutions presentation.

    It reached a point that 1) he refused to respond to me, calling me stupid names and 2) the Blogmaster enquired if he and I had some issue from ‘school days’.

    The latter was off based as the man is 4-5 years my junior or some such and was never in scouting or cadets so I certainly would not have know him from his school from a camp or jamboree !

    In short I was NEVER taken in by the BS… I simply refused to vilify him as you guys did.

    At this point I am placing the emphasis on the BLOGMASTER for allowing Phillips to continue to obfusate and waffle in the face of renewed practical, detailed and precise queries/analysis.

    A lot of that was asked at inception also … On taxes and the insanity of his law n order plan… So now almost 2 years later I am just tired of you guys weekly bashing him and doubly weary of his ridiculous waffling…

    … Time to step up or shut up and also close out this weekly bash regime!

    Not a damn thing to do with now “cathing up” to perceived inadequacies nor “necessary […] to have facts and figures”.

    I gone, peoples.

  16. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @David, I missed this until after my just previous post…

    I can surmise along a few lines to ‘hand-stand’ your : “Do you know why some software instructors are of the view students should be taught to write virus code? If you understand the logic to such a view you will understand the blogmaster’s position.”.

    But bro, to write a virus code it means you deeply better understand the damage and intricacies of the programme…

    What dangers are you trying to help us grasp by guiding us through this literal ‘writing’ weekly of this Phillips virus.

    Figuratively we have been infested with detrius and we are averse to any effectiveness of the Phillips application.

    Pray clarify!


  17. Not getting into any exchanges.
    I will continue to be positive towards GP2.
    I wish him well and hope he does well, now and in the future.


  18. de pedantic DribblerFebruary 15, 2020 2:30 PM

    However, I very clearly called him OUT from day 1 for what I ‘termed’ his 6th form Solutions presentation.

    It reached a point that 1) he refused to respond to me, calling me stupid names and 2) the Blogmaster enquired if he and I had some issue from ‘school days’.

    The latter was off based as the man is 4-5 years my junior or some such and was never in scouting or cadets so I certainly would not have know him from his school from a camp or jamboree !

    In short I was NEVER taken in by the BS… I simply refused to vilify him as you guys did.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Look at what you wrote here! That is precisely what happened to me! CRENVILLE VILIFIED ME FIRST!

    All I did was call him out on the inadequacy of his submissions and he accused me of being a “hater”, “bringing poison as usual” and being envious of people who are better than I am, namely himself.

    And most here chose to ignore what he did to me as though somehow he should be privileged to say what he wants about others without response. I became the “cyberbully” who had personal issues with Grenville or had a hidden agenda for responding to someone who had first insulted me.

    Well let me tell all of you something. I have NEVER been fazed by what men say because I actually KNOW who I am.

    And if David, for reasons best known to himself (but which he has hinted at above) continues to present this JOKER to us on BU I will have NO CHOICE but to bash his hard pig head into the ground EVERY WEEK.

    I will make NO APOLOGIES for doing so because as Piece has said almost from Day One- HE MUST NEVER BE ALLOWED TO ENTER THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY. He is that dangerous mixture of ignorance, stubbornness and moral certainty, convinced of his “betterness”, holier than thou, “touch not the Lord’s anointed” that he would put Mia to shame in the dictatorship race.

    Have you noticed that Piece hasn’t had a lot of time to bash “Mugabe” lately? He has seen an even greater threat and it is Grenville. Because TO THOSE WHO ARE NOT DISCERNING or paying attention, Grenville is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. His sheep’s clothing needed to be stripped away. If people get fed up of more taxes and civil service dismissals, the attacks on pensions etc etc with no assurances that this is the end, Grenville’s promises may be their only hope.

    But alas! He is hopeless!


  19. PS – ‘He turns words into action.” Same could be said of Donald Trump. How’s THAT working out for ya?

    #notbouthere


  20. John A:

    You are grossly mistaken. We explained that everyone must pay VAT at 10%. Therefore VAT is very relevant. To ignore it is grossly inaccurate. You should know that – so why do it?


  21. Theo:

    We predicted that discussing arithmetic with BU bullies and haters is a complete waste of time. That is why we recommended that accountants and economists review our plan and give their opinion. Extreme politically partisan supporters and haters do not like that rational approach.


  22. Don’t clutch at TheO’s straws! He does not live here and cannot save you. It is the likes of ME you have to deal with!

    Soooo….you lie again! Here is a rational approach for you.

    If you wanted the professionals to review your plan and give their opinion why is it that SILLY WOMAN had to extract it from your website and bring it to BU? Maybe you did so years ago, but someone inviting scrutiny would have made it easy for those who were asking and posted it again. I suspect your plans were rubbished then by posters and you did not want a repeat.

    And for some reason one professional, PLT, who seemed to have been in the habit of posting to your website believes he has now been blocked!

    Don’t mess with Ms. Marple! She and Hercule Poirot evolved from the same brain!


  23. Thing is that the accountants and economists have reviewed your plan and are of the same opinion as the “BU bullies, haters, extreme politically partisan supporters (who ever they be) and the bringer of poison who is envious of the fact that you are better than she is! (If I thought that I would probably kill myself!)

    They are just more polite than we are.

    But you are making the same mistake Hillary Clinton made when she labelled some of the voters she would have needed to win over “deplorables” and did not even grace certain “lowly” states with her presence.

    Stupid!


  24. nextparty246February 15, 2020 4:16 PM

    Theo:

    We predicted that discussing arithmetic with BU bullies and haters is a complete waste of time. That is why we recommended……

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Who is this “we” to whom you keep referring? Is this a ROYAL “we”? You know what they say about people who use the royal “we” and those who refer to themselves always in the third person!

    Delusions of grandeur!


  25. Royal we
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The royal we, or majestic plural (pluralis majestatis), is the use of a plural pronoun (or corresponding plural-inflected verb forms) to refer to a single person who is a monarch. The more general word for the use of a we, us, or our to refer to oneself is nosism.

    Speakers employing the royal we refer to themselves using a grammatical number other than the singular (i.e., in plural or dual form). For example, in his manifesto confirming the abdication of Grand Duke Constantine Pavlovich, Emperor Alexander I begins: “By the Grace of God, We, Alexander I, Emperor and Autocrat of All the Russias ….”.[1]

  26. Piece the Legend Avatar

    @ Granville Phillips aka Bedroom Policeman aka Iso TALIBAN aka buy wunna Caskets!

    Donna, whom you call the hater, continues in each of her post to provide clear indisputable evidence that you are ill suited to the task government

    And she is right that I have focused on you of late because you are a plant to deter people from considering the Third Party option BY SHOWING YOURSELF INCOMPETENT and thereby tarnishing to others!

    And that is the strategy of the Minister of Disinformation as well

    But you are encouraged to continue with your simpleton unworkable solutions because you WIll NEVERSEE THE INSIDE OF THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY.


  27. Has Solutions got an economic spokesman?


  28. @ next party 246

    I never said you didn’t discuss vat I said it can not be grouped in with income when it comes into discussing corporation tax.

    Also I am neither a bully nor a hater just a realist. My point to you is that a flat tax of 10% of sales will shut every company in Barbados based on current profit margins being achieved in the region of 4 % of sales. That is undeniable.

    The issue I was showing Donna is how a company that collects alot of money in VAT does not mean it makes alot of money in profit. By extension if you slap a 10% final tax on say a supermarket with a pretax profit of 2 % you will cause it to lose 8% of sales in one year!

    What bout dat so hard to understand?


  29. @ John A

    Pick who you discuss financial economics and economic policy with. What we need is for the government to name and shame the businesses that are using VAT as cash flow. I will bet most of the Social Partnership mob do not pass on their VAT.


  30. John AFebruary 15, 2020 5:51 PM

    @ next party 246

    What bout dat so hard to understand?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Nothing!


  31. @ Hal

    I agree with you their names and amounts owed should have been published 3 Sundays in a row for all to see in every news paper!

    They are thieves and nothing else!


  32. @John A

    What about the companies owed VAT? How should we treat with the government?


  33. @Hal

    Now follow their logic. They forgave a business that lets say sells cornbeef what maybe tens of thousands owed in vat. However if someone went in there and stole one can of the said cornbeef he would of been loss way at Dodds for 6 months!

    Morrow of the story is “thief big and you safe.”


  34. @ david.

    The companies owed VAT should be deducting the VAT on new sales from what is owed until such time as the books are balanced. Government brek so we must all work together to reach a workable solution. In other words if I owe you land tax and you owe me vat let’s chat.


  35. @John A

    The whole system is compromised due to inefficiency.

    Any thoughts why VAT due in the 96 to 2000 period was selected as the write off period? Given that VAT was implemented in 96?

    What recourse should companies have that were forced out of business because of government being brek? Our own Adrian Loveridge has been writing for years that he is owed thousands.


  36. @John A

    Can companies of their own volition offset?


  37. Gp2

    BU is full of hater, bully and political ( whatever name u called them)

    I counted two supporter for u here in BU
    And one probably cannot vote for u.

    Questions

    Why do u come in BU then?
    Why weekly?
    What are you trying to achieve/who are you trying to convert over to your side?


  38. @ David

    There is provision to offset on trade. The problem is that in special development projects etc that VAT can not be offset by trading VAT. So there may be large amounts say in development project claims that await payment from the state. Then you have the zero rated companies too mixed up in there.

    It’s a vicious circle as the $400M had it been collected and paid out, could of gone a long way in helping everyone out.

    As I said our tax system is not that bad now, it’s our collection systems that continue to fail us.


  39. @ David

    In other words look at VAT as a revolving door. Vat comes into the state coffers and when spent on capital works etc creates more vat in the system, which is again paid into the state through the same revolving door. The loss of $400M means that will now not be there to go through the door anymore.


  40. @John A

    The additional consideration is when government inefficiency and bureaucracy cause legitimate business to fail.


  41. John2
    I am interested in your political calculus.

    What makes you think a Bajan is unable to vote.

  42. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @Donna, to each their own!

    Phillips insulted and maligned me as well but I opted to dismiss the man.

    I don’t think (well I know I am not) that I am smarter than others here so from the moment this bro started calling folks who challenged his Solutions (on their factual merit) ‘haters’ and political bandits planted by others I saw him as a political jackass and thus I fully anticipated others did as well.

    You can either ride a jackass for your pleasure but endure it’s braying, endure it’s braying from a distance or get it far away from you.

    I did 1 then 2… #3 is well in process now.

    Let’s also appreciate that to offer a slate of candidates and create a functioning apparatus to contest an election is the work of a ‘DOER’!

    In that context one should not underestimate the man…but there is absolutely no way this gent can win a majority of seats in Bim.

    He would be taken apart by dirty politics and his family unit I suspect would cause him to withdraw.

    Politics is a NASTY game and when opponents start to mouth off about what mistresses his ‘esteemed, reverential’ ole man had and why Phillips Jr divorced and all that BS stuff that has not one jot to do wid anything but simply causes people to get really pissed … Do we really see THIS man dealing with that….

    And then we still have to get into the real stuff!

    Fah real tho , why do we continue to address Grenville in this political space as a SERIOUS player…

    The man is a gad fly activist and so be it… He is NOT a potential Bdos leader in HofP… Although he surely thinks he is!

    All of our huffing and puffing simply fills him with more hot air!

    Later do… I gone again.


  43. It is not a matter of being smarter overall. We are smarter than others at different things. Therefore a wolf in sheep’s clothing will find some people lagging around to devour and others will have recognised the wolf and hightailed it out of his reach long time! Or to put it differently some people smell a rat faster than others because they have a keener sense of smell.

    Take for instance his tax plan. I know many people who are intimidated by such things and would therefore not even try to figure out how ridiculous they are. I know people who are too busy earning their daily bread to spend time analyzing from scratch. I know people who are too exhausted. It is for these people that we must point things out. And the format of BU and the spiciness of some posters makes it an entertaining learning experience that is less taxing on the brain. People who do not attend lectures do attend Laugh it Off. People who do not watch MSNBC do watch Kimmel, Colbert and Trevor Noah. Same facts, different presentation. They laugh and they learn. No sweat!


  44. PS. I do agree with you that he couldn’t possibly win an election in Barbados but as I said, “Mek sure better than cocksure!”

    Did you have Trump to win in 2016? He was taken as a joke, was he not?


  45. RE All of our huffing and puffing simply fills him with more hot air AND PROVIDES US WITH AN ABUNDANCE OF MIRTH

    LET THE MAN CONTINUE TO EXHIBIT HIS DELUSIONS OF GRANDEUR AND LET US ENJOY LAUGHING AT HIS FOLLY
    LIKE WHEN HE SPOKE OF UNNECESSARY AMPUTATIONS INTER ALIA


  46. RE Did you have Trump to win in 2016? YES I DID. I SURE DID LONG BEFORE HE WON THE NOMINATION

    RE He was taken as a joke, was he not? BUT HE IS CERTAINLY NO JOKE. NOT AT ALL

    TO MENTION TRUMP AND GRENVILLE PHILIPS IN THE SAME MOMENT IS BLASPHEMY OF THE HIGHEST ORDER


  47. “Blasphemy”,: GP? Even Trump hasn’t gone there yet! Even though he has referred to himself as the Chosen One. I thought it was tongue-in-cheek.

    “Treason” is outrageous but “blasphemy” is at another level altogether! Even said tongue-in-cheek the use of that word is alarming!


  48. John A February 15, 2020 6:52 PM “As I said our tax system is not that bad now, it’s our collection systems that continue to fail us.”

    An accountant American friend of mine worked as a tax collector, armed with a gun to give the task some heft.

    Wunna tink if we try dat in Barbados people would pay up?

    Asking for a friend.


  49. Theo

    Do u understand the meaning to the word – probably?
    I know free/paid education was wasted on you


  50. I simple so i will give a simple example.

    A pensioner with an income of $40,000 per year currently pays 0 (zero) income tax per year. That pensioner has already paid nuff, nuff in income tax in his/her 40-50 years in the workforce. The pensioner is dealing with various age related issues, health issues, transportation issues-can’t drive at night etc. may need now to pay for some housekeeping help and so forth.

    That pensioner pays VAT, and property tax. The property tax for the average 40,000 per year pensioner is likely a modest $300 or so.

    Under the Solutions Barbados 10% flat tax proposal that pensioner wold have to pay $4,000 per year in income tax.

    One: Everybody understands now?

    Two: Why would that or any pensioner in similar circumstances vote for Solutions Barbados?

    Answers please. Thanks.

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