Tropical Storm Dorian Has BB on LOCK!

The most recent advisory has Tropical Dorian at 11.5N and 54.W or about 375 miles East-southeast of Barbados. The weather hunter is scheduled to examine the system at 8PM tonight- a firm decision will be made regarding the timing of the national shutdown soon after.

Feel free to use this space constructively to assist anyone search for information.

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  • I was very skeptical of this so called storm from the first time I read about it. Yes, it turned out to be the proverbial damp squib. MIa and the media created an unnecessary crisis out of this event.

    What happens when the next tropical storm approaches our island. What will be the public reaction when Mia cries wolf?

    Common sense should prevail. Such storms do not appear overnight. We all know when a storm is approaching. Where art thou common sense?

    You saw the reaction from the masses – sorry sheeple – bulk buying and creating a real crisis.

    When the mother of storms eventually catches up with the island I fear that it will never recover.

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  • Here is Lisette Stevens from Dominica on Dorian today, lots of rain (mountains) but no mention of wind..

    https://www.stormcarib.com/

    Dorian

    By Lisette Stevens <jaco.lass at gmail.com>
    Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 16:19:23 -0400
    4 years ago to the day we had Tropical Storm Erika rain on Dominica! Today since 8.30 am Dominica has had very heavy rain, especially here in the Layou Valley. It has been truly horrible. Dorian has dumped a lot of water on us! Rain, rain and more rain. As I write this at 4.06 pm it is still grey and raining!

    Nobody here thought we would have a bad time with Dorian, he was headed over Barbados, St. Vincent and St. Lucia, maybe Martinique!!

    Everyone went to work!! Well after 1.30 pm people were told to go home from work and stay safe.

    Our electricity went off at 9.0 am! Domlec the electric company have been amazing and we just have electricity back at 4.0 p.m. We now have internet.

    We have not heard of damage to the island yet, but no doubt the rivers are full and there may have been some landslides.

    I will report tomorrow.

    Our dogs have been snuggled up all day, sleeping like babies!!

    We hope everyone is safe here in Dominica and the other islands.

    Dorian
    By Lisette Stevens <jaco.lass at gmail.com>
    Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 07:16:23 -0400
    We all hunkered down for the night. Our three dogs were particularly quiet. We took the precautions of shutting our shutters. It was a very peaceful quiet night. A couple of heavy showers that is all.

    We got up at 6.15 am to a very grey cloudy morning, it is raining quite hard at the moment. We have been told to expect heavy showers and wind through out the day.

    It is a weird reminder of this day 4 years ago when we had Tropical storm Erika.

    We so hope that Dominica does not get a great deal of rain today! People must still take precautions.

    We have not heard any news from any other islands we hope everyone is OK.

    It is pouring rain now and very, very dark. I will keep posting if I can throughout today.

    Stay safe everyone,

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @Hal Austin August 27, 2019 5:08 AM “For those who are interested, the old boy survived and coped very well. He represents everything that is good about Barbados.”

    Duh!!

    Of course he did.

    Nobody gets to be 100 years old unless they have extremely high level coping skills.

    The old man has successfully negotiated life long before we were born, and will likely continue to do so long after many of us are gone. He has been looking our for himself long before any of our Cabinet members were born, long before the Commissioner of Police was born, long before the Chief Justice or the Governor General or the Chief of the Defence Force, or his MP were born.

    People like that old man don’t look to “liberal democratic states” for their safety and security.

    ..

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    I secured my place as best as I could, ensured that I had plenty of water, enough food and medicine on hand, ate a full hot meal, took a shower, then without permission from Tron I went to sleep at 11:15 p.m. and woke up at 6:15 a.m.

    I am thankful that there was minimal damage to the people/property of Barbados from this storm.

    I think that the officials did a decent job of the preparations.

    But the hurricane season is not nearly finished.

    Can we Bajans please ease up on the littering please.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @Hal Austin August 27, 20195:08 AM “However, it is the responsibility of a liberal democratic state (which differentiates us from Confucian ones) to look after the welfare of its citizens. It cannot delegate that responsibility to relatives or the generosity of friends and neighbours. That is a state responsibility.”

    Confucian societies are not the only ones where blood relatives, friends, and neighbours act responsibility towards their elders (and young children, the disabled, pregnant ladies etc.)

    In fact I would say that all in all good societies, blood relatives, friends and neighbours look out for the elders young children, the disabled and pregnant ladies.

    Even while this does not absolve the state of its responsibilities, it often negates the need for the state to intervene.

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  • I am considering to build a shrine in the garden for Goddess Bim for her dear protection for our beautiful island. I will then burn her a chicken as a sacrifice and a Donville Voodoo puppet with it.

    Many thanks to the Goddess and to her earthly Deputy. Barbados is a paradise on earth. Unfortunately, many do not appreciate the privilege of living in Barbados.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @TLSN August 27, 2019 6:31 PM “You saw the reaction from the masses – sorry sheeple – bulk buying and creating a real crisis.”

    What bulk buying are you talking about? I saw large numbers of people buying the minimum needed to get their families through a few days. I spent $56.42 BDS. Saw a couple of neighbours at the same supermarket, gave them a lift home. One told me she spent about $25 for a family of three, and the other $111 for a family of 5, including an infant less than one year old. And from my observation in that same supermarket, most people were being very modset and very astute in their buying.

    I saw sensible people, not sheeple behaving responsibility. Would you have had us do otherwise?

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @Tron August 27, 2019 9:05 PM “I am considering to build a shrine in the garden for Goddess Bim for her dear protection for our beautiful island. I will then burn her a chicken as a sacrifice .”

    If you are going to be barbeque-ing chicken in your garden at least have the decency to invite the rest of us.

    Sorry David. Please don’t ban me.

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  • It was other folks turn today to face Dorian.

    The people of Dominica went to work this morning as usual until rain from Dorian made it impossible.

    They then went home.

    Electricity was cut but by the end of the day it was back.

    Martinique and Nevis had some rain and St. Lucia no problems.

    Sensible people behaving sensibly and responsibly … and saving their coppers!!

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  • Many of you are so stuck up Austin’s ads that you’re seeing what’s not there.

    I did not make a reference to his wife. Read my comments and come again. I made a generalised statement.

    Hal Austin is a bullshiter…..period.

    But many of you here are afraid of him and are weaklings to tell him so.

    A bunch of weak, spineless hypocrites you are.

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  • FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

    INIT 27/2100Z 15.3N 62.5W 45 KT 50 MPH
    12H 28/0600Z 16.2N 64.1W 50 KT 60 MPH
    24H 28/1800Z 17.6N 66.2W 55 KT 65 MPH
    36H 29/0600Z 19.1N 67.8W 40 KT 45 MPH
    48H 29/1800Z 20.8N 69.2W 45 KT 50 MPH
    72H 30/1800Z 24.2N 72.2W 55 KT 65 MPH
    96H 31/1800Z 26.7N 76.1W 60 KT 70 MPH
    120H 01/1800Z 28.2N 80.6W 60 KT 70 MPH…NEAR THE FLORIDA COAST

    Predictions are Dorian will reach the Florida coast as a storm in 3-4 days.

    Folks will have had a chance to guage the storm’s severity and will act accordingly.

    https://www.newsweek.com/tropical-storm-dorian-path-florida-prepare-measures-1456287

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  • And if any of you are honest you would ADMIT what I’m saying is TRUE.

    Barbadians of Austin’s generation got an opportunity to live overseas. They marry white women and feel they have arrived. They come back here with their fake accents, not knowing anything about the land of their birth and of a sudden Barbados is a failed state. Everything here is wrong, but the white man’s land is right.
    We are silly, backward and learn by rote. And you idiots join with this pompous fool to say so.

    This is the real Bajan Condition and wunnuh are a bunch of weak spineless hypocrites.

    Why don’t you all come out to say something when Austin is being unnecessarily mean and ride to David BU?

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  • Barbados may suffer from a dysfunctional administration, but the crime rate is low despite all the alarmism, the prime minister knows everyone, politicians don’t need personal protection, the beaches, the palm trees are fantastic, the people nice, the parties in the villas great, the hurricanes, which elsewhere smash everything here only lukewarm breeze. Have I forgotten anything else?

    So a failed state looks somehow different. Even if we can’t get out of this financial hole so quickly, there is hardly a place that can compete with Barbados.

    A small limitation: You have to be able to afford to live here. I’d say Barbados is the Switzerland of the Caribbean.

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  • @ Robert Goren

    Crawl back in your hole lowlife.

    You are an ass of the highest order.

    The man is free to marry what race he wants.

    He is also free to share his opinion.

    We know what is his background.

    We don’t know yours.

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  • @Baje If I were you, I wouldn’t say anything. John2 proved you are not only a lowlife, but an ads of the highest order, too.

    The blogmaster asked a question, which a semi literate like you said he made a comparison and then went off on a silly tirade of insulting the man. That’s what you do best. Nothing of substance, just cussing and insults. According to Austin, you are unable to debate critically because you learnt by rote. That’s why you go on to a cavalcade of vulgarities and obscenities.

    The Barbados Condition.

    I guess with a name like Baje, we know your background.

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  • FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

    INIT 28/0900Z 16.8N 63.9W 50 KT 60 MPH
    12H 28/1800Z 17.9N 65.3W 60 KT 70 MPH
    24H 29/0600Z 19.5N 66.8W 60 KT 70 MPH
    36H 29/1800Z 21.4N 68.2W 60 KT 70 MPH
    48H 30/0600Z 23.3N 69.6W 65 KT 75 MPH
    72H 31/0600Z 26.1N 73.0W 80 KT 90 MPH
    96H 01/0600Z 27.7N 77.1W 85 KT 100 MPH
    120H 02/0600Z 29.0N 80.0W 85 KT 100 MPH

    Dorian forecasted to become a hurricane in 48 hours and Puerto Rico is on Hurricane Watch.

    I was thinking about Deighton Best’s explanation about how the Coriolis Effect works to make a storm/hurricane veer north as it progresses across the Atlantic.

    The slower the wind speeds the less the force on it to turn north.

    As the windspeeds rise we can watch the predicted path turn harder north towards Florida.

    Florida is the natural endpoint for tropical systems UNLESS high pressure areas in the Northern latitudes act to overcome the Coriolis Effect and make the system travel through the Caribbean Sea to Central America.

    The Caribbean Sea is warmer and strengthening is more likely.

    Janet in 1955 seems to have moved under the influence of a high pressure area to its north.

    So it ended up in the Swan Islands, really powerful from the energy it got from a warm Caribbean.

    Florida was spared.

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  • Read this:

    https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/27/weather/florida-dorian-path/index.html

    Dorian develops into cat 2 hurricane.

    Our beloved Prime Minister has shown a great sense of responsibility. She runs the country wisely and with a strong will.

    Imagine if the government had not declared a state of emergency and Dorian had turned into a hurricane 100 miles BEFORE the shores of our island.

    The critical comments of the opposition this morning on the radio are not only unpatriotic, they are also grossly false, subversive and shameful. The government must better monitor those radio stations that deliberately spread false news.

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  • John Lennon

    Imagine if the government had not declared a state of emergency and Dorian had turned into a hurricane 100 miles BEFORE the shores of our island.

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    Most of us deal in reality!!

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  • While we are playing the imagine game, imagine if Barbados had mountains and could have attract the rainfall Martinique attracted from Dorian.

    We would not be a water scarce country and could afford a bunch of idiots managing our water resources.

    https://cbs12.com/news/nation-world/streets-flooded-in-martinique-due-to-tropical-storm-dorian

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  • Dominica, Martinique, Nevis, etc … nuf to mek a Bajan envious of their good fortune of their bounty in water!!

    Meanwhile we idiot Bajans can’t figure out the sort of position to which our water scarcity condemns us.

    .. and still we persist with the fakes!!

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    Did anybody else notice the flaming sunset on the evening of August 26, and is anybody here old enough to tell if there was a similar flaming sunset just before Janet?

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  • The whole of social media there was talk and pics of the beautiful sunset
    I have seen those sunsets before these occurrences happen when the sun is a lot closer to the earth

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife
    August 28, 2019 12:51 PM

    Did anybody else notice the flaming sunset on the evening of August 26, and is anybody here old enough to tell if there was a similar flaming sunset just before Janet?

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    Yup and nope!!

    … but friend told me his mother remembered a far more golden sunset before Janet.

    Another friend regaled me this morning about the deaths in Christ Church in Janet, he was 11 at the time and in the brunt of the storm.

    Told me there were people dead by the side of the road.

    Lived in Parish Land.

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  • One of the more vivid memories he had of Janet was of the child snatched from his grandmother’s arms by the wind and blown into a pond where it drowned.

    For an 11 year old that had to be seared into his consciousness even if he did not see it but heard his elders talking about it.

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  • @ John

    I knew from Janet that a flying sheet of galvanise was a flying guillotine. There were lots of anecdotal stores at the time of people have limbs amounted by flying galvanise. But the nation survived and progressed.
    Part of the problem with Janet s that n Barbados we do not write our social history and depend on anecdote, memory, gossip, rumour and imagination.
    Barbadians of that age were a stoical people. I mentioned earlier the building of the Deep Water Harbour. I just cannot convey the magnitude of that project, filling in the water between Pelican Island and the mainland. One of the first container ports in the world. That was huge. Barbadians now take the Port for granted.
    It was shortly after that the West Indies sent a football team to the UK; they got defeated and that was the last attempt to my knowledge to form a West Indies football team.
    The great Reggie Haynes played in that team, maybe as captain. There was a good guy from Trinidad, cannot remember his name, who moved to Barbados after and played cricket for Spartan.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    Dear David: if you have a picture of the flaming sunset of August 26 can you please post one here, so that others can see. Thanks.

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  • HAl

    You will probably find that most if not all deaths were in St. Philip and Christ Church and people in other parishes just heard of the experiences in the south.

    I think there were 35 deaths in Janet vs over 4000 in 1780 and over 1500 oin 1831,

    I live two miles inland from Parish Land in Christ Church and was told that a complete roof on a cow pen, 50’X60’=3,000sft was lifted off complete like an aeroplane wing and deposited in the field below.

    Bernoilli!!

    A factory chimney blew down and an I beam from the factory that supported the roof was standing upright in the field below the yard.

    Got that firsthand from my grandfather and his children who stayed in Christ Church at the house in the factory yard instead of going to Husbands as my father had implored.

    Major damage in Janet was localized in the south of the island.

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  • Sorry, Bernouilli

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  • TheoGazerts (It's just 21x14)

    Missed out on some of the posts. but just let me add that people in St Lucy experienced Janet as well.
    With a 14 mile wide and 21 mile length, there is not enough of Barbados for some areas to escape the effect of a storm.

    I can concede that some areas will have a worse storm/hurricane experience than others; but put aside the fairy tales.

    “Typical hurricanes are about 300 miles wide although they can vary considerably in size. The eye at a hurricane’s center is a relatively calm, clear area approximately 20-40 miles across. The eyewall surrounding the eye is composed of dense clouds that contain the highest winds in the storm.”

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  • Hi Grasshopper,
    I was expecting to see you in that video.
    No such luck… 🙂
    It is good to see you back.
    Hope the meds continue to work 🙂
    ..

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  • Let me begin by complimenting Mia on how she was out front in the impending crisis.

    There are time when a nation needs bold and decisive leadership and I am quite certain that she inspired confidence in the average Barbadian.

    My only hope is that she widens her definition of stakeholders.
    https://barbadostoday.bb/2019/08/28/left-behind-2/
    Good job Mia. Throw away that old playbook and go with your instincts.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    Thanks David.

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  • Let me begin by complimenting Mia on her comments after the crisis.
    https://barbadostoday.bb/2019/08/28/mottleys-brickbats-bouquets-after-dorian/
    Yes, penalize them until they believe it is wiser to throw it in a bin than in the streets.
    (Lorenzo and Enuff – stop right here

    I can compliment her now,,because I know that sooner or later I will see her trying to sneak her fingers into the cookie jar.. I have a ruler and I have time.

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  • The Transport Board has a new chief executive officer in Fabian Wharton.

    Wharton will begin his tenure on September 1.

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  • TheoGazerts (It’s just 21×14)
    August 28, 2019 6:45 PM

    Missed out on some of the posts. but just let me add that people in St Lucy experienced Janet as well.

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    If you read Deighton Best in the link I provided you will see that the most powerful winds are in the north of a hurricane approaching Barbados.

    Once a storm/hurricane veers north of Barbados due to the Coriolis Effect unless it is extremely powerful we will be good.

    Janet went south so its most powerful winds in its northern parts savaged the South of Barbados.

    High pressure probably drove it south.

    If you look at Puerto Rico now with Dorian it is classed as a near miss but the reason Puerto Rico will get off is also because the most powerful winds are on the Atlantic side of Dorian’s track.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/08/28/near-miss-puerto-rico-dorian-strengthens-into-hurricane/?noredirect=on

    Rain however is a different issue.

    Looks like GP will get a direct hit from Dorian in Florida.

    If he is on the south side of its track he will not experience the type of winds those on the north will.

    Rain will be a separate issue.

    Florida is flat and easily flooded.

    In our case Dorian made a last minute move north.

    It was weak already so we got off.

    Martinique and Dominica were on the north side of Dorian suggesting the rain is also in the north.

    But, both are mountainous.

    Puerto Rico may not get much rain either, depends probably on mountains.

    Will be interesting to watch.

    May turn out rain is in the northern parts as well.

    GP, stay safe.

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  • Grasshopper

    “Typical hurricanes are about 300 miles wide although they can vary considerably in size. The eye at a hurricane’s center is a relatively calm, clear area approximately 20-40 miles across. The eyewall surrounding the eye is composed of dense clouds that contain the highest winds in the storm.”

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    You are looking at an image without any understanding!!!

    In the case of Dorian, storm winds extended out 45 miles.

    A small storm.

    That’s where Mia made her mistake, in being fooled by an image that is digitally processed.

    Great minds think alike, fools seldom differ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Next time you look at an image of a storm, remember to consider its vital statistics and don’t get fooled like most people would!!

    Look at the track of the storm, is it going north … if so it can be dismissed….. but needs to be watched.

    If it is going west, look at its wind speeds.

    If low, it is worth watching but it is unlikely that it will be a problem.

    Look for high pressure areas to its north.

    Look for the extent of storm force winds.

    Don’t be fooled by a digitally processed image into thinking it is a picture.

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  • @ John August 28, 2019 11:51 AM
    “Dominica, Martinique, Nevis, etc … nuf to mek a Bajan envious of their good fortune of their bounty in water!!
    Meanwhile we idiot Bajans can’t figure out the sort of position to which our water scarcity condemns us.
    .. and still we persist with the fakes!!”
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    John, you should know from your Quaker beliefs of ‘conserving for a rainy day’ that Bajans cannot have their cake today and want to eat it tomorrow.

    If Barbados had ‘volcanic’ mountains her bounty of water would NOT lie underground in her limestone-lined aquifers sealed with a bed of clay.

    Which you landscape do you prefer to live on in the tropics? One with water on the surface to breed mosquitoes or one with cool spring water from Nature’s monkey jars stored underground.

    Why do you think that Barbados had a relatively large white (mainly British) settler population- unlike the other mountainous territories- if not for reasons other than the sugarcane industry; like access to the limestone-filtered underground water?

    What Bajans of your patriotic ilk ought to be worried about is the woeful neglect of the much need husbandry of the scarce rainfall which earlier generations practised.

    Just look at the dreadful state of gullies, canals and gutters! Didn’t earlier generations of water conservers

    What about the downright refusal to undertake a planned programme of cleaning the many suck wells which are the drainpipes to the aquifers but currently filled with all matter of human filth and discard?

    It’s time Bajans get back to basics if they want to be proud of keeping the previously envied reputation of being one of the earliest countries in the world to have water ‘piped’ (for domestic use 24/7) to a large section of the population.

    It’s time to stop complaining and blaming the annual bogeyman called Mr. Drought and to revisit what their fore parents practised.

    What are they waiting on! For a return of the plantation-system for the white massa to tell them what to do? Or for Israel (acting on behalf of Yahweh) to send technical assistance to save their sorry black as**ses?

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  • @ Miller August 28, 2019 10:31 PM
    “Just look at the dreadful state of gullies, canals and gutters! Didn’t earlier generations of water conservers..”
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    Should read:
    Just look at the dreadful state of gullies, canals and gutters!
    ‘Didn’t earlier generations of water conservers go out of their way to ensure that the precious soil in the crop fields was well retained by the growing of khus khus grass as hedgerows (whose natural fragrance, by the way, makes an excellent insect repellant) along with the clearing of watercourses during the dry season?’

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  • Miller
    August 28, 2019 10:31 PM

    @ John August 28, 2019 11:51 AM
    “Dominica, Martinique, Nevis, etc … nuf to mek a Bajan envious of their good fortune of their bounty in water!!
    Meanwhile we idiot Bajans can’t figure out the sort of position to which our water scarcity condemns us.
    .. and still we persist with the fakes!!”
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    John, you should know from your Quaker beliefs of ‘conserving for a rainy day’ that Bajans cannot have their cake today and want to eat it tomorrow.
    If Barbados had ‘volcanic’ mountains her bounty of water would NOT lie underground in her limestone-lined aquifers sealed with a bed of clay.
    Which you landscape do you prefer to live on in the tropics? One with water on the surface to breed mosquitoes or one with cool spring water from Nature’s monkey jars stored underground.
    Why do you think that Barbados had a relatively large white (mainly British) settler population- unlike the other mountainous territories- if not for reasons other than the sugarcane industry; like access to the limestone-filtered underground water?

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    I am being facetious and you are not being particularly bright today.

    BTW, underground water in most parts of Barbados is usually 200 plus feet down, Bowmanston is 257 feet deep.

    Belle is 141 feet deep.

    Atmospheric pressure will lift water 32 feet!!

    You obviously don’t have a clue what you are writing about because if you did you would realise none of the current public water supply wells were even known of until after the late 1800’s!!

    Access to rivers and streams in mountainous islands is easy!!

    By your logic, it would be these islands that should have been the domicile of the settlers!!

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  • @ John August 28, 2019 11:03 PM
    “You obviously don’t have a clue what you are writing about because if you did you would realise none of the current public water supply wells were even known of until after the late 1800’s!!

    Access to rivers and streams in mountainous islands is easy!!

    By your logic, it would be these islands that should have been the domicile of the settlers!!”
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    So why did the smart ‘white man’ from England settle in Barbados from ‘early as’ the 17th Century?

    Why not the BVI or some other territory taken from the Spanish or French?

    Was Bim settled primarily because of it being a haven for persecuted Quakers?

    Where did the white people draw their ‘potable’ water prior to the “late 1800’s”? From the sanctuaries for migrating birds or from Maxwell Pond?

    It’s regrettable that the Dutch saved your sorry English asses by introducing windmills to the ‘dried-out’ island.

    BTW, those “current water supply wells” were dug to facilitate to distribution of water to wider Barbados in keeping with the spirit of the fountain that still adorns your local Trafalgar Square in loving memory of those who died in the plague of cholera in the 1850’s

    BTW, the miller is a descendant of the family which donated the Montefiore fountain.

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  • So why did the smart ‘white man’ from England settle in Barbados from ‘early as’ the 17th Century?
    Why not the BVI or some other territory taken from the Spanish or French?

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    God sent them!!

    Puritans first, not Quakers (1648).

    The Bible is what caused the smart “white man” from England to flee persecution and settle first America and then St. Kitts ……… and then Barbados.

    In so doing the smart “white man” from England spread God’s Word across the Globe.

    The Puritans did not settle here first.

    They settled in New England, 1620.

    The Caribbean became important because of the winds and currents God created when he created the World.

    St. Kitts was settled (1623) before Barbados (1627).

    St. Kitts is short for St. Christopher the patron saint of travelers.

    That’s because to get to America it was necessary to travel and it was safer to come via the Caribbean in the days of sail.

    God just made it so!!

    In the four years (1623-1627) it took to settle Barbados after St. Kitts, a hurricane destroyed the settlement on St. Kitts.

    Plus, the island was shared with the French and Caribs who were a threat, besides being in the paths of hurricanes!!

    Somehow those smart “white men” from England figured out God had made Barbados the safer bet!!

    So the reason the smart “white man” settled Barbados is God made it so!!

    … but I am sure you must have learnt most of this at school!!

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  • Where did the white people draw their ‘potable’ water prior to the “late 1800’s”? From the sanctuaries for migrating birds or from Maxwell Pond?

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    Porey Spring outlet to the sea is via the Hole in Holetown.

    Little Bristol/Speightstown has water at less than 6 feet underground.

    In fact all along the south and west coast water is available a few feet underground.

    Beckles Spring by the Bay Mansion.

    Springs at Amity Lodge just north of the Graeme Hall Swamp.

    So, multiple sources along the coast.

    St. Kitts has rivers.

    Here is a list.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rivers_of_Saint_Kitts_and_Nevis

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  • @ John August 28, 2019 2:45 PM

    There was a striking build up of cumulus clouds in the west over Carlisle Bay. I saw it and my aunt remarked on it as being peculiar. In terms of vivid sunset there wasn’t one as far as I recollect. Cumulus clouds were towering in nature and also had a slight orange tinge. I remember it well for the following reason. The public health authorities had condemned Irish potatoes and the potatoes were dumped in the sea. People were diving them and selling them at much reduced price in the vicinity of Browne’s beach. There were lots of people buying the potatoes . My mum purchased some so I am talking from first hand experience. Apart from a slight smell, the outward appearance of the spuds was normal. Cooking inactivated any microbes present and there was no smell associated with the cooked potatoes. Janet struck the island on the Thursday 22nd. September.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @John August 29, 2019 5:08 AM “and Caribs who were a threat.”

    CORRECTION: The Caribs were AT HOME, planting, fishing, hunting, worshipping God, making love to their spouses when these armed white people showed up.

    The armed and white people showed up, and with their weapons and their exotic diseases nearly killed off all of the Kalinago people.

    So who was a threat to whom?

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  • Just like Bajans. Last minute preparation.

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  • Hants

    South Floridians have a Hurricane heading their way!!

    Winds will probably be in excess of 100mph, we had low wind speeds expected.

    They don’t have the luxury we have of being on the right side of the hurricane.

    Somebody will get the chop depending on where landfall is first made.

    If there is serious flooding and communication broken for a period, those in the south will be without.

    Decision to evacuate may be made in which case the roads will be packed.

    But if the decision is made the process will be transparent and the route north signposted.

    That’s the basic way in which South Florida differs from Barbados … it has a plan and everybody knows what it is!

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  • @ John August 29, 2019 5:08 AM
    “God sent them!!
    Puritans first, not Quakers (1648).
    The Bible is what caused the smart “white man” from England to flee persecution and settle first America and then St. Kitts ……… and then Barbados.”
    In so doing the smart “white man” from England spread God’s Word across the Globe.”
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Sir John Quaker, is that how you ‘spin’ the 500 years of history chronicling the ‘invasion’ of Western Europeans into the so-called New World?

    To civilize the barbaric heathens after decimating them with ‘exported’ plagues and muskets in order to seize possession of their fertile bountiful lands in the name of your white god?

    Does this same manifest destiny of the same ‘smart white man from England’ to spread the ‘word’ of some fictitious god across the Globe also apply to his invasion and forced possession of the lands occupied by the indigenous people of Australasia?

    If the goal of the ‘god-fearing’ white man was to bring ‘Christianity’ to the ‘uncivilized’ natives why, then, were Africans bought and transported to the same ‘untamed’ lands of the wild Caribbean and Americas?

    Were these ‘lost black’ souls brought to the “West Indies” to be converted and instructed in the Christianizing ways of the white man or to be enslaved and exploited to the max in the pursuit of another power called Profit?

    Poor Thomas Warner must be rolling in the flames of his eternal hellfire for causing the genocide of the native Kalinago.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife
    August 29, 2019 7:45 AM

    @John August 29, 2019 5:08 AM “and Caribs who were a threat.”
    CORRECTION: The Caribs were AT HOME, planting, fishing, hunting, worshipping God, making love to their spouses when these armed white people showed up.
    The armed and white people showed up, and with their weapons and their exotic diseases nearly killed off all of the Kalinago people.
    So who was a threat to whom?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Answer: Simple .. they were each a threat to the other.

    What god were they worshipping?

    You go to church on a Sunday … look at the 2nd Commandment!!

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  • If the goal of the ‘god-fearing’ white man was to bring ‘Christianity’ to the ‘uncivilized’ natives why, then, were Africans bought and transported to the same ‘untamed’ lands of the wild Caribbean and Americas?

    +++++++++++++++++++++

    Maybe it was God;s goal, the smart “God-fearing” white man was just a tool in His Hand!!

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  • If the goal of the ‘god-fearing’ white man was to bring ‘Christianity’ to the ‘uncivilized’ natives why, then, were Africans bought and transported to the same ‘untamed’ lands of the wild Caribbean and Americas?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Maybe after 700 years of having all of their manly parts removed in the trans Saharan slave trade male Africans breathed a sigh of relief at being transported west.

    As I said before, given a choice of being in the consignment of goods their leaders were shipping east or in the one going west my ancestors were probably relieved to be on the ship west.

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  • @ John August 29, 2019 5:28 AM
    Porey Spring outlet to the sea is via the Hole in Holetown.
    Little Bristol/Speightstown has water at less than 6 feet underground.
    In fact all along the south and west coast water is available a few feet underground.
    Beckles Spring by the Bay Mansion.
    Springs at Amity Lodge just north of the Graeme Hall Swamp.
    So, multiple sources along the coast.”
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    You purposely forgot to mention specifically an important site of major springs’; that of “Spring Garden” which was the site of a large settlement of the original Bajans decimated and destroyed by the Christian Englishmen.

    It was also a source of fresh water for the trading vessels in that ghastly Atlantic Triangular Trade especially for the early Jewish Portuguese.

    Isn’t it strange how the same underground water in the garden of springs could turn out today to be the saviour of modern mainly-black Barbadians by providing a humongous amount of their potable water needs?

    Your list of the various sources of ‘underground’ water aka ‘springs’ ‘exploited’ by the early white settlers for their water needs is merely reinforcing my argument.

    Which do you think the smart god-fearing ‘men’ from England (those trading Jews who converted to Christianity) fleeing from some perceived religious persecution would prefer as a place of refuge?

    A haven with underground (spring) water with natural health-giving properties?

    Or on the banks of the ‘contaminated with human waste’ rivers of Babylon in the West Indies?

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  • @ John August 29, 2019 9:12 AM
    “Maybe after 700 years of having all of their manly parts removed in the trans Saharan slave trade male Africans breathed a sigh of relief at being transported west.

    As I said before, given a choice of being in the consignment of goods their leaders were shipping east or in the one going west my ancestors were probably relieved to be on the ship west.”
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    And to see that all this brutal exploitation and enslavement of the black man occurred right under the vigilance of your omnipresent all-knowing Yahweh?

    One is left to wonder what black people have done to deserve such punishment from Yahweh.

    Is it because they are considered by the white (and those passing for white) religious nutters like you to be the descendants of Ham whom Yahweh cursed upon a recommendation from Noah?

    But hell, why are we surprised at this turn of events for the poor African?

    After all, the same white man’s book of indoctrination makes it abundantly clear what kind of loving being Yahweh really is.

    For blacks are clearly not Yahweh’s favourite (chosen) people.

    But that’s what happens to blacks when they disown and disregard their own Creator which gave them their black skin and go ‘a whoring’ after people’s mock gods.

    “If my people [children of the Sun] who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land.”

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  • Spring Garden —– Ionics.

    But, Belle and Codrington extract much of the fresh water heading there underground.

    Ionics processes brackish water and not from a spring.

    Go check Ionics and tell us if it isn’t at Spring Garden.

    Development in the Warrens, Cave Hill Area would make any Spring in that area down right dangerous.

    You need to study the topography of the island!!

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  • Vincent Codrington

    @ Miller at 10:03 AM

    Why do you persist in putting words into the ?mouths ?of other people’s gods that they never uttered nor can utter?

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  • MTA

    Your beef isn’t really with the white man it is with the white man’s God.

    Christianity is really the issue as far as you are concerned.

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  • @ Vincent Codrington August 29, 2019 10:13 AM

    Taken straight from the same book that depicts Apep the Egyptian god of Chaos (aka (Apophis) as a talking serpent.

    Let’s regurgitate what your favourite version (the KJV) said about your equally anthropomorphic without any further edification or redaction; i.e. verbatim:

    2 Chronicles 7:14 King James Version (KJV)

    “If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.”

    Maybe I should put words in the mouth of Aaron and teach black people how to pray:

    “The LORD bless you and keep you; The LORD make His face shine upon you, And be gracious to you; The LORD lift up His countenance upon you, And give you peace.”

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  • @ John August 29, 2019 10:14 AM

    How can the MTA have a “beef” with the white man? The miller doesn’t have any with Mongoloid, Indians or even blacks, so why whites? Don’t all of them belong to the same ‘primate’ family tree?

    What the MTA has a bee in his bonnet with are the lies and deception promoted in the Jewish story book of plagiarized myths and legends promoted as the Word of some universal god and which must be applied lock, stock and barrel in order to be accepted in paradise.

    What you ought to do is to go into a synagogue (Jewish place of worship) and look around at the stained glass window or dome to see ‘what’ is depicted as the real invisible god that Jews worship and adore.

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  • Dorian could be largest Hurricane to hit Central Florida in 30 years.

    https://www.orlandosentinel.com/weather/hurricane/os-ne-hurricane-dorian-florida-threat-20190828-gw3b7npcxvfs5ca5cly2s5gdma-story.html

    “Right now the storm is fairly tight with hurricane-force winds only extending out 15 miles, and tropical storm force winds extending out 90 miles, but the warm waters of the Atlantic as Dorian approaches the northwest Bahamas should allow the storm to grow in both intensity and size, according to discussion on the NHC’s website.”

    It isn’t near to “300” miles wide as the digitally processed image may suggest.

    The business width is 90 miles at the moment for storm force winds, 15 miles for Hurricane force winds.

    If we go by Deighton Best the northern sector will contain the strongest winds.

    So come Sunday it looks like, Central Florida may be cut in two.

    Those 15 miles (or more) on either side of Dorian’s track will feel Hurricane force winds but those on the northern side of the track will be hit harder.

    … and then there is rain and possible flooding!!

    That could possibly extend to the width on the digitally processed image.

    We see a State of Emergency declared by the Florida Governor days in advance of Dorian’s arrival and know a step by step process will be followed as the situation develops.

    FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

    INIT 29/1500Z 21.4N 67.2W 75 KT 85 MPH
    12H 30/0000Z 22.9N 68.1W 85 KT 100 MPH
    24H 30/1200Z 24.5N 69.6W 100 KT 115 MPH
    36H 31/0000Z 25.6N 71.4W 105 KT 120 MPH
    48H 31/1200Z 26.3N 73.4W 110 KT 125 MPH
    72H 01/1200Z 27.0N 76.9W 115 KT 130 MPH
    96H 02/1200Z 27.5N 79.8W 115 KT 130 MPH
    120H 03/1200Z 28.1N 81.5W 65 KT 75 MPH…INLAND

    Looks like the wind speed could get up to 130 mph.

    Possibly stronger than Janet and expected to be in a position to do major widespread damage, unlike Janet when it passed Barbados which mainly affected the south of the island.

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  • We are watching Florida respond to a real threat.

    We responded to a perceived threat …. what if Dorian strengthens AND goes south exposing us to the strongest winds?

    Neither happened.

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  • MTA

    People spread as agriculture spread through the fertile crescent after the flood.

    Eventually it reached the Nile and progressed up the river.

    It isn’t necessary to be a genius to realise that people sharing common ancestors will also share common beliefs!!

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @John August 29, 2019 9:03 AM “What god were they worshipping?”

    There is only one God, He whom Paul in Acts 17:23 referred to as the unknown God ” this “unknown God” the biblical God, the Creator of heaven and earth, who does not dwell in temples made with hands. Actually, God is the Source of life for all nations, and He is really the One they were worshipping. Paul goes on to say that God is near; in fact, “in him we live and move and have our being”

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @John August 29, 2019 9:12 AM “Maybe after 700 years of having all of their manly parts removed in the trans Saharan slave trade male Africans breathed a sigh of relief at being transported west.”

    The people would have breathed an even greater sign of relief if they all remained at HOME, hunting, fishing, planting, harvesting, making love to their spouses, raising their children and worshipping God.

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  • There is only one God, He whom Paul in Acts 17:23 referred to as the unknown God ” this “unknown God” the biblical God, the Creator of heaven and earth, who does not dwell in temples made with hands. Actually, God is the Source of life for all nations, and He is really the One they were worshipping. Paul goes on to say that God is near; in fact, “in him we live and move and have our being”

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    How did Paul become a Christian?

    Wasn’t he struck blind?

    Who struck him blind?

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  • What do you understand by unknown?

    Didn’t God identify himself to Paul, or rather Saul?

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  • Hold on to the corned beef and sardines. Activity starting up near Cabo Verde islands.

    https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo.php?basin=atlc&fdays=5

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  • Next few weeks are the real McCoy

    Central Florida may be reprieved as predictions have Dorian veering north.

    Roughest weather will be on the Atlantic side of the hurricane so if it does make the turn north, this will help Central Florida.

    Same principle as Janet and Ivan and any that pass us south and expose us to the business side.

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  • Hants

    It has a predicted northward component so we could be safe from this one.

    After September 15 to early October is the time we are most vulnerable.

    Conditions tend to reduce that northern component of velocity and also allow for formation closer to us in the Eastern Atlantic.

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  • @ John

    Dorian is now a category five hurricane with sustained winds of 175 mph. Note the similarities to Janet.

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  • I see.

    Fueled by the warm sea.

    Slowed down too … bad sign.

    Now, if Miss Mockley were the Governor of Florida ……!

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  • Trying to predict the path off Florida!!!

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  • Evacuation orders given in parts of Florida.

    Here is the plan unfolding according to the situation.

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  • We owe it to our Dear Goddesses Oya and Bim and their envoy Mia Mottley that once again nothing happened to us.

    May the Holy Wrath of the Gods strike the traitors who have criticized our government for their precautions. Their Christianity will not protect them against the order of the universe.

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  • Tron u need some seriius help. In what way did Mia prevent Dorian from devastating barbados?
    My question to u after seeing the devastation in the bahamas do u think that the preparation that Mia is being highly praised (for) would have been enough for the country
    The bahamas have more resources in aiding there preparation but the powerful force of the hurricane overmatched their preparations

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  • all the preparedness in the world could not stop Dorian devastation

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  • @ Mariposa September 2, 2019 6:29 AM

    The problem is that you and all the other DLP grandees only believe in material values like bribes because you come from low social backgrounds and have plundered the whole island like rioting servants.

    You better believe in supernatural powers.

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  • Tron but u still did not answer the question

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  • @John…..Dorian just didn’t make that sudden shift to the north.Those at the NHC were forecasting that west north westward shift as it approached Barbados.
    The Coriolis force does not steer Systems.Systems are steered by UPPER LEVEL HIGHS,TROUGHS and LOWS.
    Systems don’t normally strike the Florida panhandle from that direction….they normally strike from the GULF of MEXICO

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  • Dead bodies in the streets of Abaco, in the Bahamas. Ii know Grand Bahama and love it. We must extend our sympathies to our fellow Caribbeans.

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  • Spare a thought for the Bahamians and the Barbadians living in the Bahamas.

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  • Destruction on Abaco

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  • I remember seeing a few Bajans whining about buying foodstuff and there was ‘no storm’.
    I wonder if they still feel the same way.

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  • https://barbadostoday.bb/2019/09/03/losers/
    This is a trick to get me back to Barbados.
    This is almost as good as a no-show job.
    I coming to try-out
    I am on my way.

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  • https://barbadostoday.bb/2019/09/03/caught-in-a-lie/

    Where do I go to get back my reputation.
    It should not just end here.

    Probably not worth suing.

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  • The Coriolis force does not steer Systems.Systems are steered by UPPER LEVEL HIGHS,TROUGHS and LOWS.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The Coriolis Effect exists by virtue of the Earth’s rotation.

    The natural movement of a depression, storm or hurricane in our neck of the woods is north, period.

    That effect can be counter balanced or overcome by UPPER LEVEL HIGHS,TROUGHS and LOWS.

    We saw and are seeing that with Dorian off Florida.

    It went west until the High moved, thhen it turned north.

    People will claim Trump steers hurricanes but it isn’t true.

    There is no hurricane steering machine located at Mar A Lago!!

    God chose to spare it the wrath of Dorian and in so doing spared countless thousands/millions in Florida.

    Once again, and I repeat, Trump has no control over hurricanes, there is no hurricane steering machine at Mar A Lago!!

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  • The stronger a hurricane gets the greater is the Coriolis Effect.

    All we see on the satellite images is the system, not the Coriolis Effect, not the UPPER LEVEL HIGHS,TROUGHS and LOWS.

    We do however see the track!!!

    That allows us to surmise how strong the system is and whether there are other things affecting its progress.

    If we watch Dorian off Barbados it had little northward component.

    Either it was weak or there was a High keeping it travelling west.

    So the movement of Dorian spoke volumes as to its potential effect on Barbados.

    We had no wind and very little rain which was always going to be likely given its track!!

    It then intensified to a CAT 5 Hurricane.

    Even now, its track reveals much about its strength.

    It is going directly north which says it is strong AND there is nothing (or almost nothing) counteracting the Coriolis Effect.

    The Highs have moved.

    … Trump did not, and I repeat Trump did not move them!!

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  • “Bahamas’ tourism could be devastated for a long time after Hurricane Dorian”

    https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/03/business/bahamas-tourism-impact-hurricane-dorian/index.html

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  • The frequency of Hurricanes since 2011 could influence the re building process in The Bahamas.


    — 2011: Hurricane Irene, Category 3, made four landfalls in the Bahamas, causing widespread material damages but no reports of fatalities.

    — 2012: Hurricane Sandy, which peaked at Category 3, passed over the Bahamas before reaching the United States.

    — 2015: Hurricane Joaquin, Category 4, meandered over the southern Bahamas, battering its islands for over two days. Joaquin caused extensive devastation and its storm surge trapped hundreds in their homes. Offshore, the American cargo ship El Faro and her 33 members were lost to the hurricane.

    — 2016: Hurricane Matthews, Category 5, caused massive destruction in Haiti and damaged several islands in the Bahamas.

    — 2017: Hurricane Irma, Category 5, passed over Inagua and South Acklins islands where it downed power lines, knocked out communications and damaged homes.

    — 2019: Hurricane Dorian Cat 5.

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  • Besides Tourism what else makes up the economy of the Bahamas?

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  • “The Bahamas is the richest country in the West Indies and the third wealthiest country in the Americas. It is a stable, developing nation in the Lucayan archipelago with a population of 391,232 (2016) and an economy heavily dependent on tourism and offshore banking.

    Steady growth in tourism receipts and a boom in construction of new hotels, resorts, and residences had led to solid GDP growth for many years, but the slowdown in the US economy and the attacks of September 11, 2001 held back growth in these sectors in 2001-03. Financial services constitute the second-most important sector of the Bahamian economy, accounting for about 15% of GDP.

    However, since December 2000, when the government enacted new regulations on the financial sector, many international businesses have left the Bahamas. Manufacturing and agriculture together contribute approximately 10% of GDP and show little growth, despite government incentives for those sectors.

    Overall growth prospects in the short run rest heavily on the fortunes of the tourism sector, which depends on growth in the US, the source of more than 80% of the visitors. In addition to tourism and banking, the government supports the development of a “2nd-pillar”, e-commerce. ”

    WIKI

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  • “Dorian’s centre is expected to move across central or eastern Nova Scotia on Saturday and pass near or over Prince Edward Island later tonight and then move near or over portions of Newfoundland and Labrador on Sunday. It is expected to maintain hurricane-force winds as it moves across Atlantic Canada through Sun”

    Emera is going to be very busy after getting whacked in The Bahamas.

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  • DORIAN BECOMES A HURRICANE-FORCE ( cat. 2 ) POST-TROPICAL CYCLONE creating havoc in Nova Scotia.

    Can’t compare to the destruction in the Bahamas but still serious.

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  • @Hants

    To imagine Dorian passed over Barbados!

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