Rise of the Uneducated Class

Many issues of the day continue to question our ability to govern. One of them is the health of the National Insurance Fund (NIF). If you listen to the politician while in Opposition, it is a fund under stress. If you listen to the same politician on attaining the office of government, the NIF is described in more positive terms.

For the sober in the crowd there are the actuarial reviews to consider. Successive governments have been unresponsiveness to public inquiry about  releasing the reviews for public consumption in a timely manner. Of equal concern has been the inability of successive governments to ensure the timely release of audited financials to parliament.

Generations of Barbadians have contributed to the NIF to give currency to the tagline – it is our lifeline.  Auditor General report after report detail bad investment decisions taken by successive governments of  National Insurance Scheme (NIS) motivated by pampering and pandering the old boy network. The “investment” of USD60 millions in Clearwater Bay referred to loosely by Barbadians as Four Seasons is one example.

The NIS is one of a handful of state owned entities that should be ring-fenced to protect against the incompetence of the political class.  Judging from all reputable sources of economic data, the inability to adequately govern a 166 square mile, less than three hundred thousand people located in an idyllic geography should be evidence enough.

Prime Minister Mia Mottley and the Minister of Education Santia Bradshaw have signaled in recent weeks that major reform is coming for the education  system. The issue of revamping the  system has been discussed for decades by the more progressive minds. The inability of our leading lights to manage the NIS and the other entities that combine to ensure well functioning organs in the society is an indictment on the current system of edcuation.

Successive NIS Boards, NIS Investment Committees and the ancillary services have been managed by “educated” Barbadians.  The performance of the NIS like the judiciary, like the BWA, like the transportation system, like the waste management system, like the PSV sector etc etc all point to the inability to convert significant investment in education in the post Independence period.

The Barbados Labour Party (BLP) since wining office in May 2018 has aggressively pursued economic strategies to address an economy in free fall.  Interestingly, we have not observed the same urgency to address challenges with the NIS. In fact Prime Minister Mia Mottley hinted that the hesitation to address the NIS problem is rooted in the enormity of the solution required given the future obligations of the fund.

This week it was reported that millions of  Brazilians protested against President Jair Bolsonaro’s plan to privatize the pension plan. The story attracted the attention of this blogmaster because one senses that Barbados will have to implement draconian measures to protect the NIS for the many sooner rather than later. Already President hBolsonaro as suspended several benefits to Brazil’s low income, disabled and senior citizens. Only a few years ago Brazil was considered the emerging economy from the Latam region.

Related links:

Brazil: Bolsonaro to Suspend Senior, Disabled Benefits Programs

Brazil: Millions Protest Bolsonaro’s Neoliberal Pension Reform

The message to Barbadians is that we cannot continue to do the same thing all the time and expect a different result.

BB = P+G (E*SOEs +NG-S)

 

 

232 comments

  • @ Vincent,

    Denman was her married name. Ex Queen’s College, her maiden name was Alleyne. Incredibly outstanding in the UK and sat on a number of committees and public inquiries; an academic and author.
    Retired to Barbados a number of years ago where she remained unrecognised, apart from returnees and visiting UK friends and lived in Rockley. She was a human rights specialist. Highly sophisticated and intellectual.

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  • @ John A

    Ringfence the NIS and launch a new long-term savings scheme. We need a Sovereign Wealth Fund. Think big. President Mottley is scared to.

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  • @ Northern

    On your second question that is a good one. I don’t know if we like it so, or many are just not concerned once the doors of the institution stay open. I am waiting to see what this government will do to make sure that government audited financials of entities like the NIS are brought up to date. What penalty will central government place on these entities if they don’t?

    I mean how can you come to us with a budget for more taxes and not even be in a position to know the true value of your total receivables and payables at the very least?

    I guess when you fall short you can always come back for more six months later in a mini budget so no big thing.

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  • @John

    Was there not legislation passed a few months ago tabled by Straughn to force SOEs to submit timely financials or incurred penalties.

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  • @ Hal

    I suggested ring fencing that and the central bank and get cuss for not trusting the government to do the right thing.

    I think both institutions need to be ring fenced for the same reason. Make sure they are free from tampering by local politicians for one reason or another. Between the unchecked printing of money and rape of the NIS, I don’t think any Bajan could say that both institutions should not be ring fenced.

    Will it ever get done? I sincerely doubt it as all ministers are still politicians .

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  • @ david

    Yes legislation was passed but no penalty for failure to do this was outlined.

    Basically it’s just another rule in a rule book full of unenforceable rules. Our problem is not rules we got NUFF but we enforce few if any.

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  • @ David

    For example government has been in power now over 1 year. When they came to power several entities had not filed returns for 5 and 6 years. So let’s say by October 2019 many are still not up to date, what will central government do about it? Will they ask for the resignation say of all boards that do not comply?

    My point is we set rules but when they are broken there is no penalty for breaking them.

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  • @ John A

    I really admire your perseverance. I have nothing but contempt for the incompetents who govern Barbados – the products of Barrow’s so-called free secondary and university education. Wasted money.
    They celebrate mediocrity. Have you ever heard them discussing idea? I really feel for the ordinary working people who cannot escape their mucky hands..

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  • @Hal

    Thanks, all we can do is keep trying.

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  • Talking Loud Saying Nothing

    @ Hal,

    I am not going to disagree with you as I moved out of London sometime ago. Let us hope that the 400 nurses from Ghana will come with a different mindset then their sisters from the UK diaspora. All I can say was that the nurses that I encountered at the QEH were terrible.

    By the way Hal what’s going in London. There have been so many killings of late.

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  • Apparently president Mia does not go anywhere without her CROOKS like Altman et al…they must be invited by her and her corrupt ilk to every cat fight involving Black people..as long as money and wealth are involved….TO STEAL…

    a word of warning, Africa is not the place for white bajan crooks, they are not AFRICAN DESCENDANTS..and they are certainly not descendants of BLACK SLAVES..

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  • @ Talking Loud,

    This is a monster created by the UK. They must deal with it.. Most of these kids are from care, and it has been so since the 1980s. I remember reporting on this in the late 1980s.
    By law there is very little parents can do. The elephant in the room are the teachers, who expel many of the kids for the most trivial of excuses. That needs an investigation.

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  • “@ John A

    I really admire your perseverance.”

    Add me to the list of admirers…. His efforts are Herculean but the task is Sisyphean…

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  • William Skinner

    @ Hal
    @ John A

    We have a habit of making mountains out of molehills. How could we not know how many nurses , police , teachers we would need at any given time.
    This shortage of nurses and police is a travesty. We seem not to study demographics , manpower needs or any future requirements. Most of this planning is arithmetical and should be executed by a well managed planning office.
    All of the BLPDLP mismanagement is coming to an embarrassing head.
    But we go around boasting that we fight above our weight and a few million borrowed dollars from the IMF is all we need.
    We are sending home Bajans and then importing hundreds to do work that we should be capable of doing from within our own resources.
    We also have a shortage of artisans in areas such as construction.
    Fifty years of collective mismanagement by BLPDLP.
    Duopoly Rules

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  • @William

    Part of the problem was when the QEH was legislated to a Board. Several nurses declined to switch. If the memory is correct it was close to 200. Maybe Artax can add the numbers and more detail.

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  • Then there is walking dead Cheltenham who has NO SHAME…a sell out extraordinaire of his own people.he would sell ya ass for a dime….Africa would do well to beware the lawyers and ministers who love tiefin land and money from the elderly, especially old black women and their children..an stealing from the old and dying to give to white crooks will not go down well in Africa either…they need to know what kind of BLACK CARIBBEAN DEMONS FOR LEADERS THEY ARE DEALING WITH…

    On facebook people are laughing at the shocked expressions on Cheltenham and Holder’s face when the president started speaking about:

    human rights
    rule of law
    democratic accountability..

    all alien to crooked lawyers and teifing ministers….in Barbados

    Africa is trying HARD to get rid of their corrupt crooks, they need NONE from the Caribbean….

    be warned..

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  • @The0gazerts

    Thank you, I can’t help but feel sometimes we really don’t want true change. We want to talk about it though. Lol

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  • @ William.

    If We can’t get such basic issues dealt with as nurses and policeman, what you think our chances are of dealing with the taxation system and the foreign debt restructuring?

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  • fortyacresandamule

    Argentina debt crisis bacame a huge problem beacuse of ONE greedy MF vulture capitalist name Paul Singer. The system has set a bad precedent for this kind of behavior going forward. The international financial system should have rules in place to check these despicable subhuman vulture capitalist.

    I will take a loan from China anyday over any Wall street capital. Worst could happen, especially for those without natural resources, is swapping debt for a long-term/concessionaire on government asset. eg a Port.

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  • William Skinner

    @ John A

    We will as usual continue to spin top in mud.

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  • Vincent Codrington

    @ David BU

    The ministers/ cabinet appoint the boards. Boards everywhere have responsibilities among which is an annual report inclusive of audited financial statements. Do you honestly believe there is need for special legislation to ensure timely audited financials? If that is the case the uneducated class ascended at least three decades ago.

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  • @Vincent.

    In summary we pass new laws which state the old laws must be obeyed. Lol

    Lord sometimes I feel we are fighting a losing battle.

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  • Vincent Codrington

    The question was asked earlier about the number of certified accountants in Barbados. No one answered . There are over one thousand registered by ICAB. I do not know the relevance of the information. Quite a few are in the Public Service. That cannot be the source of the late presentation of audited accounts. When the number was 75 % less Audited accounts were timely. What is the real problem?

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  • Jeff Cumberbatch

    As a |UK patient, I would rather have white nurses than West Africans – and I speak from experience.

    I never said anything about preferring white nurses, you clown. So much for your university education.

    Come on now, Hal….

    Sylvia Denman, who has died aged 86, was an academic, lawyer and public servant who worked hard to advance the causes of race relations and equal opportunities

    Sylvia was born in Barbados to Euleen (nee Alleyne) and Alexander Yarde, and went to school there at Queen’s college. Her academic career included lectureships in the UK (at Oxford Polytechnic, 1965-76, which became Oxford Brookes University), the West Indies and the US, where she was Fulbright fellow at New York University in 1982-83.

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  • Vincent the problem is that the boards don’t either understand or are capable of ensuring the financials are filed. Most of these boards are made up of party faithfuls who have no intention of rocking the party boat.

    There is also no penalty for these entities not filing. Maybe the PM should ensure that the boards of entities not filed on time will he told to resign.

    You think the public embarrassment would maybe make them be active board members ?

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  • Vincent Codrington

    @ Hal

    @ Jeff

    I do not know the person but I know the family(s ) My sincere condolences to the Alleyne and Yarde families. May she rest in peace and rise in Glory.

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  • Vincent Codrington

    @ John A

    He/ She who appoints can disappoint. But ,like David, you playing idiot. Well I am a boss idiot.

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  • Vincent I have not heard that expression ” boss idiot ” for years! Lol

    You and I know the demand for change on this issue has to come from the PM. IT also must come with serious penalties for failure to obey the deadlines.

    Do I expect to see this change? No because as I said before every appointed minister is at heart a politician first.

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  • Educated to learn one thing and then do another, to pass ACTs to By-pass Laws , to make Fraud which is a crime Legal, To feed the Nation with False and Misleading Statements, To have a COP and DPP who just hold an office and pick up the dead off the streets, To have an AG , GG who are rooted in crimes,To Have a Person holding Prime Minister Office who is a Well Know Un-Charged Criminal by the same Criminal COP and DPP,To hold office to Black Justice, To Be fair and impartial, To take the Oath of Office just for a paycheck and to have Criminal Power cloaked in the robe of the law. A hunry man teaching people to Farm they shall be all dead when its time to eat.

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  • fortyacresandamule

    One of the ironies of public bodies failure to file audited financial statement or even a basic annual report, is that you have people from the private sector who sat on these same boards and say nothing. This kind of behavior would have never been tolerated in the companies they lead or own. Go figure. I guess government affair takes place in an upside down universe relative to ours.

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  • fortyacresandamule

    I would never serve on any government entity board whose audited financial status is so lacking.

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  • @fortyacresandamule

    You are aware those from the private sector sit on the SOE Boards for the fees and the padding it lends to their resumes/LinkedIn profiles?

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  • You also have to remember the board basically will forward its instructions to management. Management then has to make it happen. So the question then is what is the penalty to management if they do not follow through?

    The answer is very little because as you know it is practically impossible to fire anyone in the civil service or discipline them in any real way.

    So basically the problem continues as no government wants to get to the core and change it as that would upset the civil service and unions.

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  • @John A

    Why do we blame the elected politician if this is the case?

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  • @ David

    The government would have to enact change in the civil service employment rules to make it easier to deal with those who stand in the way of progress. That would mean clashing with the unions to get these changes implemented. How long have we been hearing about civil service reform, pray tell what reform has ever occurred?

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  • Having said that a strong board might be willing to push the issue to the point where government were publically embarrassed enough to act. Of course they would probably all be fired by the said government who elected them as board members first.

    Hence the wheel goes around and the vehicle goes no where.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @Vincent it always amuses me that you guys pompasette verbally here so extensively on the behaviours of politicians and disagree vigorously with them but as soon as someone disagrees with YOU GUYS the personal broadsides are so sharp.

    Amusing hypocrisy!

    If to state that absolute default of a state financial contract is a LEGITIMATELY act and u call it irrelevant then you are being stupidly petulant and ignorant of basic rules of engagement.

    The bond/paper holders had all recourse to the courts to enforce their contract …

    The issue is NOT whether it was the right thing to do… It was a very aggressive negotiation ploy and they used it.

    You can disagree on the process but to call all the folks uneducated on finance and economics is irrational.

    Anyhow, glad to know all the knowledge of state financing resides here with you guys.

    Carry on smartly.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @Hal Austin on 16 June, 2019 at 9:29 a.m. 3rd paragraph, last sentence “As a UK patient, I would rather have white nurses than West Africans”

    @Hal Austin on 16 June, 2019 at 4:20 p.m., 1st paragraph “I never said anything about preferring white nurses”

    The people who read BU have decided for themselves.

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  • fortyacresandamule

    @David. LOL. I a very well aware of the benefits that a board appointment brings.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    Had the DNA done. 85% West African ancestry. 15% Irish from Rock Hall (St. Peter) plantation

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    Professor Cumberbatch at 7:57 p.m.

    Thanks.

    But unfortunately for me I did not attend a British university, lol!!!

    Not UWI either.

    But I ain’t calling no names.

    However I spent my life working in a field which requires EXTREME attention to detail.

    I notice t’ings.

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  • NorthernObserver

    @VC
    So u provided wonderful background at 7.34and 42, then asked “what is the real problem?” and didn’t give an answer?

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  • Yo President Simple…ya West African to ya bones…you go girl, do some more research..there is SO MUCH TO DISCOVER…

    don’t mind Mia and her WHITE CROOKS…they will stay right where they belong, goddamn thieves…trailing HER her every move, because that is what crooks like and that is what she likes….same crooks.that she can’t seem to shake off the lives of Black people on the island and it appears she don’t want to, but she is not carrying that nasty corruption into Africa…she can take that to the bank…goddamn disrespectful, even of her own MOTHERLAND…bad ENUFF that she has no respect for Black people on the island, the same African descendants, especially the most vulnerable women and children.

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  • When Africa has become SICK AND TIRED of the corruption..ya done know ya can’t carry none of that from the Caribbean to the East.

    https://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/240306/sudans-bashir-charged-corruption-appearance-april

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  • @ Jeff

    I made it clear I was speaking from the experience of a patient. I could have said I preferred the Indian nurses to the West Africans. That was specific not a generalised view, one shared by my fellow patients, and I spelt out the reasons why: aggressive, rude, etc. Implicit in that was that the other staff had all those qualities. I said may be it was cultural (not racial). Communicating is about context. Clarity is important, fi you do not fully understand then ask the question: what exactly do you mean? Don’t assume the operation of my mind.
    To repeat, I had the recent experience of spending a month in hospital with staff from around the world and by far the West Africans were the worst (Nigerians and Ghanaians); they were despicable. Not a single one stood out. At first I was impressed with the staff nurse, until she started to lie and fiddle records.

    This is what I said originally:
    Take the issue of importing 400 Ghanaian nurses to work in our health service. It is a lunatic idea. Just ask black nurses (and patients) who have worked in, or been in hospitals, with West African nurses. Talk to the returnees. As a |UK patient, I would rather have white nurses than West Africans – and I speak from experience.(Quote)

    I followed up with a further explanation:

    What these nurses, like all people, bring with them is their culture. When they see a black person they relax and think they are dealing with someone from ‘home’ and old forms of behaviour come to the fore. This will end in tears..(Quote)

    I further added:

    Nor have I mentioned anything about nurses being black or lack of training (apart from good manners). Caribbean nurses are black too. I said African, and that they are rude, obnoxious, aggressive and unsympathetic. If you have not spent any time in a hospital with those pigs you cannot talk. Both black and white patients complain about them. May be it is cultural.(Quote)

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  • Wuhloss……..all the world’s filthiest hypocrites,liars racists, thieves and criminals…THE CHURCH and the palace…are jumping on the cannabis MONEY TRAIN…

    “The Church Of England’s $10.5 Billion Fund Will Now Invest In Cannabis

    When Shavo Odadjian, bassist of the band System of a Down, told me he was launching a cannabis strain called “Church,” I could not help but find it funny.

    Weed and religion don’t go together, I thought.

    However

    It seemed that, step-by-step, cannabis and Christianity were getting closer.

    The Queen’s Cannabis

    Despite these small advancements, nothing (not even a big cloud of white smoke coming out of the Vatican) could have prepared me for the surprise I woke up to last weekend: the Church of England, the mother of the international Anglican Communion, led by Queen Elizabeth II, will be changing its investment fund’s rules to allow for investments in medical cannabis, which is now legal in the U.K. under certain circumstances – although actual access remains pretty limited.

    The fund in question, the Church Commissioners for England fund, currently manages about £8.3 billion ($10.5 billion) in assets – although the Financial Times reported assets of $16 billion, based on this report. As a closed fund, no new contributions are accepted; the fund currently destines all of its profits to financing the Church’s ongoing expenses.”

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    Hal you too brought your culture from home in the Ivy. My mummy used to work in the Ivy, so she told me nuff, nuff stories. Have you considered that the West African nurses found you to be rude, obnoxious, aggressive, unsympathetic, a pig?

    You are reporting on the nurses’ behaviour.

    I wonder what the nurses reported about you?

    You have been called out on this blog by more than once by more than one person.

    I advise ya please don’t back pedal na more, becausin’ ya might fall offa ya bicycle and end up in the hospital for another month expecting people whom you regard as pigs to be sweet, compassionate, and sympathetic to you. Only a complete idiot would expect that life works like that.

    Take my advice next you are in the hospital humble yourself, be courteous to everybody, the consultant doctors, the nurses, the food servers, and the men and women who mop the floors. Treat the attending nurses as though they are your daughters or granddaughters and all will be well.

    Excellent manners is the grease which soothes social intercourse.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    I was in the QEH a few years ago, and the day after the surgery Dr. So and So said to me “why didn’t you tell me that you were the very close relative of my colleague Dr. So and So?”

    My response was “I don’t like to pull rank. I just want to be treated like an ordinary patient.”

    And indeed I was treated like an ordinary patient. Excellent treatment from everybody, the doctors both foreign and local, the nurses, the people who served the food, the good lady (a member of my church) who mopped the floor.

    Be nice to people, and chances are they will be nice to you, even though like me you are just an ordinary person.

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  • @ Simple,
    Here you go again. I specifically said ask any of the returnees and others their views (not just relatives). So it just cannot be me. By the way, some time ago you said your relative worked in Howells + Road; which is it, the Ivy or Howells + Road. I remember asking who for and you declined to say. I did not speculate.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    She referred to it as “Howells and Ivy”

    Dead now so I cannot verify.

    It may have been both Howells and Ivy.

    Sensible domestic workers move around for better money and better conditions.

    They don’t stick around if the employer thinks and treats them like a pig.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    We referred to many of the “returnees” as mad. It might be more correctly called post traumatic stress disorder, from the virulent racism which they encountered in the Mother Country.

    Angry, abrasive, hypersensitive, suspicious etc.

    And the thing this PTSD was largely unrecognised, and mostly untreated.

    Migration is hard.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    Of course if the Barbados government has sensible people they will of course provide orientations including cultural orientations for the Ghanian nurses. Cultures differ. In Barbados “town people” behave differently from “country people”. St. Lucian culture differs a bit form Bajan culture and so on.

    But human beings migrate. Human beings have migrated for hundreds of thousands of years. They won’t stop. None of us have the power to stop migration. But people adapt, some more easily than others. The resident culture also adapts. I’ve know Bajans who moved from Barbados to Florida and could not adapt. I’ve known Bajans who moved to Alaska and adapted well.

    But to claim that Ghanians nurses moving to Barbados “will end in tears” is both silly and biased.

    No doubt a few missing food, family, and culture will return home before a year is up. No doubt some will fall in love, marry and have children with Bajans and will remain here for ever.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    Not even President Trump can stop migration. Right now the 20 year old mother or grandmother of a future American President is at some border waiting to be let in. Just as Trump’s mummy was let in not so many years ago. Just as Obama’s daddy was let in.

    Just as Barbados let in George Washington so many years ago.

    At heart human beings are all nomadic.

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  • Jeff Cumberbacth

    fi you do not fully understand then ask the question: what exactly do you mean? Don’t assume the operation of my mind.

    Sorry, I do not have the time for the former and am really not interested in the latter. I merely pointed out the patent incongruity of the two statements…

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  • Just a little education for the uneducated or miseducated masses!!

    Did you know that Howell and Guy were actually the surnames of two Quakers who were here in the 1600’s?

    They owned the Belle Plantation.

    Ivy when written in old English is Guy!!

    Woodville Marshall’s book disagrees.

    It reckons Ivy Plantation was the amalgamation of Rouen, O’Neal’s, Eastcott, Millington’s Windsor Lodge covering 74 acres in 1871.

    Howell it claims derives from Conrad Howell in the 1800’s.

    Here is an extract from the Queree Papers

    The Belle – The Bell – St. Michael
    Caribbean Vol. iv
    Gov. Philip Bell was 8th son of Sir Robert Bell, M.P.

    1641–56 BMHS xxxv 220

    9 conveyances briefly noted below show the making or putting together of the pltn by Gov. Philip Bell. All the lands are in St. Michael. They adjoin each other & other lands of Philip Bell. In one case the land is said to bound on other land of Philip Bell, “taken up by warrant”, this must men or refer to a grant to Bell from the Earl of Carlisle and was probably 200 ac, the usual such grants to men in bell’s position.
    /3/307 50 ac from Henry Rycroft
    /3/310 10 ac from John Ashurst
    /3/311 10 ac from Charles Hilliard
    /1/160 10 ac from Ralph Mountstevens
    /1/587 15 ac from John Richardson
    /3/571 15 ac from John Richardson
    3/571 100 ac from Richard Peers
    3/710 15 ac from Henry Futter
    /7/413 20 ac from William Stretchley
    /5/58 10 ac from Simon Mason

    120 ac added to the nucleus of “land taken up by warrant”, this probably gave Bell a pltn of 440 ac by 1656.

    1659 Will 14/344
    Philip Bell bequeaths pltn to nephew Philip Bell and his male heirs. If no heirs, to nephew Edmund Bell, cousin Thos. Rous, nephew Timothy Thornhill BMHS 35:220 (nephews Philip & Francis)

    1674 /7/514, 516
    Philip Bell & Francis Bell of England, brothers, absentee, sell to Richard Howell a pltn of 427 ac in St. Michael for £10,500 sterling.
    Borders: Sir Paul Paynter (Lower Estate), Philip Symonds, Henry White, Christopher Lyne, Samuel Hathaway, Nicholas Blake, John Bignall, Henry Fuller, Samuel Osborne, others. White servants and slaves. 244 ac in st. Philip now in possession of several tenants.

    1674
    Ford, Mab Howell & Guy Richard Howell & Richard Guy were business partners & substantial land owners in St. Michael & elsewhere. Both died in England within a year of each other, without issue.

    1701 Will 41/476
    Richard Howell of London, England Absentee, bequeaths pltn to nephew William Wheeler of Barbados.

    1709 Will 5/285
    William Wheeler, heir of Richard Howell, bequeaths pltn to William Wheeler, the testators nephew, a minor, of England, absentee Samuel Barwick names as executor. Pltn The Bell

    1714 /28/28
    Hon Samuel Barwisk sole qualified executor of will of William Wheeler dec’d, mortgages “The Bell” pltn in St. Michael where William Wheeler lived – 477 ac to Conrade Adams of Christ Church for £8440 sterling.
    Bounders: Thomas Neale (Neil’s), Philip Symonds, Sir Robert avers (Lower Estate), John Bignall, Richard Forstall (Waterford), others, a gulley. William Wheeler died in considerable debt and in addition bequeathed substantial legacies charged on the pltn. Samuel Barwick as executor has paid £10,113 currency of his own money to satisfy pressing creditors and for the upkeep of the pltn. He now mortgages “The Bell” and “The Pine” pltns in his capacity as executor to reimburse himself.

    1721 Wheeler

    1721–52
    At some time during this period transactions, not discovered among the records, took place which brought both The Bell and The Pine pltns into the ownership of the Barwick family.

    1752 /109/244
    Hon. William Barwick of St. Michael sells to Gedney Clarke of St. Michael The Bell.
    Bounders: Rebecca Simmons widow, Hon. John Frere (Lower Estate), Edward Butcher, Thomas Tuncker (Waterford), Benjamin Mills, Elias Gibbes, James King, Hon. Thomas Harrison dec’d (Neils).

    1780 /150/340
    Chancery Court conveyance. Thomas Workman, one of the Masters-in-Chancery, sells to Daniel Lascelles & William Daling, busness partners of England, the pltn of Gedney Clarke III, called The Belle, in St. Michael. Gedney Clarke I died, 1764, in debt to Daniel Lascelles. In his will Gedney Clarke I named his son, Gedney Clarke II as his heir. In 1770 Gedney Clarke II confirmed his father’s debts to Lascelles and incurred further debts on his own account. These debts, totaling £50,000 were secured by a mortgage, Clarke to Lascelles, on The Belle. In 1774 Hon Gedney Clarke III, Collector of Customs was found short in his accounts as Collector by £16,200 sterling. The Attorney General, William Moore, filed a writ in the Exchequer Court and obtained a mortgage agains the pltns of Gedney Clarke II. The Belle and Henley, in St. John, where Clarke had bought from the SPG.

    1788
    CO 28/62 p. 251 346 slaves, 535 acres See BMHS xxxiv 179, xxxvii 413
    In 1776 Lascelles brought a Chancery Court action against Clarke and when Clarke died, in the same year, continued the action against his son and heir, Gedney Clarke III. Lascelles sought a court ruling giving the mortgage precedence over the debt to the crown. The Chancery Court ruled that the debt to the Crown took precedence over all private debts and placed the Lascelles debt as the second lien in order of precedence for payment. There were other debts of some £10,000.
    At a Chancery Court auction in 1780, Daniel Lascelles bought the pltn for £23,000 – 537 ac – 232 slaves
    (No appraised value of land or slaves included in conveyance)
    Bounders: Applewaithe Frere (Lower Estate), Jonathan Worrell (Neil’s), Henry Peter Simmons, James Polgreen, Samuel Welch, Benjamin Alleyne Cox, William Pinder, James King, dec’d, Katherine Tuncker, dec’d (Waterford), Elizabeth Slade, dec’d.

    1784 Will 28/312
    Daniel Lascelles bequeathed pltn to his brother, Edwin Lascelles, Absentee, Henry? BMHS 35:220

    1795 /29/557 Edwin Lascelles bequeathed pltn to his cousin, Edward Lascelles, 1st Earl of Harewood, Absentee

    1825 Earl of Harewood

    1836 See Colthurst Journal p. 80 statistics on Apprentices

    1872–1907 Lord Harewood (1901 deceased) 549

    1859 Horizontal windmill

    1859 Absentee

    1879 Steam – 16 Hp

    1912–14 Lord Harewood (Little Simmonds added) 584
    Atty. Hon G.D.L. Pile

    1921 Lord Harewood 145 ??

    1929 Lord Harewood 631

    1934–5 Maj. Hon. E.C. Lascelles (Edward) 631

    1937 Trustees of Lascelles 627

    1951 Hon. G.D. Lascelles

    1963 Hon. Gerald Lascelles BMHS 30:111

    1970 Hon. G. Lascelles 481

    1957/8 Hon. G.D. Lascelles (sugar ____)
    BMHS xiv 161
    Entailed by will of 5th Earl, the late (1947) Earl’s father, upon the latter’s 2nd son, Hon. Gerald Vincent Lastelles & his heirs, male.

    Ed. Stoute 84-01-08
    The Clarkes were amongst those who entertained George Washington. Gedney Clarke II is said to have introduced the Mahogany Tree into B’dos after Treaty of Paris in 1763.

    1680 Richard Howell & Guy 605 ac (This includes Pine)

    1654 RB3/2/686

    Samuel Hyatt sells 80 ac St. Michael to Phillip Bell sometime Governor where Hyatt used to live.
    Bounders: Samuel Richardson, David Bix (called Stonnekins) with gully down towards Indian End, John Frost, Robert Balrick, Phillip Bell.

    1917 British Union Oil Map (Archives) 569
    (W.W.A.) (File at Archives with much information)

    1832 14 March
    For sale John T. Bourne (B’dian 14 March 1832)

    1857 For Sale App: 2400 att. From Benjamin Sainthill 18

    S.W. St. Augustine

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  • @Hal Austin, look here Hal, don’t let Jeff Cumberbatch or Simple Simon bull shit you. It is quite obvious you’re capable of looking after yourself, While I have never had your experiences with respect to medical care in the UK, I’m all too familiar with these African and black nurses when compared to whites. I’d rather have a racist white nurse than a black “sister” any day. You see, these Bajans will complain bitterly about the treatment meted out to them by their own, but you as a Returnee will be set upon if you make similar complaints. Furthermore, I’ve watched on many many occasions as these nappy head fuck ups will listen to and pretend what some white tourist man is saying is the gospel, you get some black man from the UK saying the same thing; look out, they come after you like bees when you disturbed their hive.

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  • @ Jeff

    You intervened purportedly to show incongruity in what I said. Your reasoning was wrong, as I pointed out. What you have time for and interest in could not bother me one bit.

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  • Hal Austin,

    GIVE IT UP
    YOU ARE ARGUING WITH IDIOTS, WHO ARE SEEKING TO DISCREDIT YOUR EXPERIENCE, AS IS OFTEN THE CASE IN THE BU RUM SHOP.

    WHEN I WAS A MED STUDENT, TWO WEST INDIANS JOINED MY CLASS FOR THE CLINICAL YEARS AFTER COMPLETING SECOND MB IN NIGERIA,

    THEY SAID THAT THEY HAD BAD EXPERIENCES WITH THE NURSES IN NIGERIA, WHO LOOKED DOWN ON THEM, BECAUSE THEY WERE DESCENDANTS OF SLAVES. THEY SAID THAT THE NIGERIANS WITH WHOM THEY INTERACTED THOUGHT THEM TO BE INFERIOR BLACKS BECAUSE THEY WERE DESCENDANTS OF SLAVES.

    I WONDER IF THE WAY YOU WERE TREATED WAS BASED ON THIS SAME THOUGHT PATTERN. I AM NOT SAYING THAT IT WAS…..BUT IT MIGHT VERY WELL HAVE BEEN

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  • @ Whitehill

    Typical, trying to deny my experience. I am used to Bajan nonsense. No matter how you dress it up it is still nonsense. I call it the Bajan condition.

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  • @ Georgie Porgie June 17, 2019 9:00 AM
    “THEY SAID THAT THEY HAD BAD EXPERIENCES WITH THE NURSES IN NIGERIA, WHO LOOKED DOWN ON THEM, BECAUSE THEY WERE DESCENDANTS OF SLAVES. THEY SAID THAT THE NIGERIANS WITH WHOM THEY INTERACTED THOUGHT THEM TO BE INFERIOR BLACKS BECAUSE THEY WERE DESCENDANTS OF SLAVES.”
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=

    There is more than a large measure of Truth in that Allegation.
    That is the way most Nigerians and other West Africans (even those living in the UK) see their West Indian brothers and sisters by often referring to them as “Slave babies”.

    Yet, Dr. GP, these are the same people (both West African and West Indian) who confessed to be all brothers and sisters in your living lord and god Jesus Christ by way of the growing commercialization of Christianity in those once obeah practicing lands.

    What a paradox of enigmatic proportion wouldn’t you say, Doc?

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  • Some years ago this bajan lady who went to UK in the 50s was telling us how they encountered Africans in UK and watched them like they were curiosities, because BLACK CARIBBEANS WERE SOCIALIZED and brainwashed to believe that they were not Africans, that they were better than Africans…and she went to her grave believing that..

    so the nasty brainwash plays a BIG part in Black people OF AFRICAN DESCENT..looking down on each other, it is still ugly, look at Barbados and their uppity leaders…how they treat their own people, one need not look any further…

    .and some years ago there were Africans on the island who were hunted down by authorities and this big show was put on for the public…..so…there..;..the uneducated and the miseducated…

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  • @ mILLER

    I HOPE THIS WILL ADDRESS YOUR ABOMINABLE IGNORANCE

    26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

    27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

    28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

    29 And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.(Galatians 3:26-29)

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  • Hal,

    London became a real cosmopolitan hotspot from the early-eighties and from the early nineties became a veritable tower of Babel. I grew up in a well- know inner city area where caribbeans represented at best 10 – 15% of the local population. We moved out of that area and settled in a more tranquil one eighteen years later. I then went abroad for a number of years before returning to the UK.

    On my return, I visited my dentist near our first family address. I had not visited this area for 15 years and was shocked with what I witnessed. The demographics had altered beyond comprehension. The traditional white English had taken plight. This was evident in the type of shops on the high streets and their customers. Those of Caribbean background numbers were halved. The dominant groups were West Africans. Followed by a hue of numerous other nationalities.

    Afro Bajans represent 90% of the population of Barbados so when the few on BU who have flagged up your remarks about west African nurses you should not be surprised. They do not have your level of experience on this particular subject.

    It was good to see the president of Ghana in Barbados. However we should be under no illusion as to the cultural differences within the two separate cultures. We should not hold back from discussing our concerns and fears.

    We in the UK have been familiar for decades with FGM, ritual sacrifice ( the infamous “Adam” part torso that was reclaimed from the River Thames and a couple of years prior to this an identical case in Amsterdam); and the casting out of demons and the extortion of congregations to donate money to West African churches.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-africa-48634434/prescription-drugs-sold-illegally-in-uganda

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  • @ TLSN

    I used to work near Borough Market, and if you know London, that is in the borough of Peckham – Little Africa. Also, in my bachelor days, I went out with a British born doctor of Nigerian heritage. So, I was closer to that cultural experience than the BU keyboard warriors.
    They have the romantic back to Africa dream. They should talk to people who actually experience the reality. Talk to the children of Caribbean-African heritage.
    I had one young man on my reporting team of Jamaican-Nigerian parentage; I once described him as a Jamaican and he exploded. Talk to the West Indian women who married Nigerians in the 1960s, moved to Nigeria and immediately had their passports taken away and were virtually held as prisoners. The theory is fine, but the reality is something else. Beware of unintended consequences.

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  • @ Hal,

    Correction! Borough Market and Peckham are in the borough of Southwark.

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  • @ Georgie Porgie June 17, 2019 10:36 AM

    All that can be said in return, Georgie Porgie, is that you are directing your scriptures at the ‘wrong’ person.

    It’s the same so-called Christian West African and ‘blackened’ West Indian that should be reading, digesting and practicing the import of those scriptures.

    Why not quote that succinct piece of all-encompassing advice as contained in the following piece of scripture:

    “If anyone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love God whom he has not seen.”

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  • To the idiot who did not know……….“Howells and Ivy” was a bus route that serviced The Ivy and travelled on Howells’ Cross Rd, or part thereof also.
    Dont know if this route still exists.

    Many routes or destination have been eliminated through the years like 15 Gospel Hall when Birch owned the Progressive Bus company, or 13 Top Rock.

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  • @ TLSN June 17, 2019 11:25 AM

    Absolutely correct!

    We shall see if Hal Autistic the know-it-all of all things ‘English’ argues to the contrary.

    Maybe he believes that the now gentrified ‘Brixton’ is in the borough of Wandsworth.

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  • Miller ya bible illiterate, I have rightly divided the word of truth. Ask your daddy the devil, he will tell you that I have.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife
    June 17, 2019 7:58 AM

    Not even President Trump can stop migration.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Trump is for immigration … the legal kind.

    He needs peeples to fill the excess of jobs his economic policies have created!!

    He is against the illegal kind, after all he is ultimately responsible for the enforcement of the laws!!

    Hal is kind of like Trump here.

    Hal wants to choose who he lets into Barbados!!!

    He doesn’t want road hogs!!

    Because a nurse can drive does not mean she/he isn’t a rod hog.

    … but I am sure you would agree with Hal … and Trump too!!

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  • @ Georgie Porgie June 17, 2019 11:39 AM
    “Miller ya bible illiterate, I have rightly divided the word of truth. Ask your daddy the devil, he will tell you that I have.”
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    How the miller get to be Bush Tea’s brother?

    All I did was to extend the application of your ‘scriptural’ advice from only that of the incestuous warlike “seed(s) of Abraham” to all the peoples of the world like the Chinese and Indians on whom the Light of God also shines.

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  • @Miller

    You have been given some latitude here. Let us not distract from the substantive matter.

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  • @TLSN

    I stand corrected.

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  • @ David June 17, 2019 11:54 AM

    Is it true that the GoB plans to abolish the 11-plus exam (BSCEE) shortly?

    If so, what would be the criteria used to allocate graduating primary school students to Harrison College?

    Residential proximity to Crumpton Street?

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  • Nigerians can be backward jackasses, they were enslaved and colonized in Africa first, before the middle passgae..so if anything, they are the original slave babies….dumb, uneducated, miseducated and under-educated also applies to most countries in Africa, particularly the Francophone and portugues, spanish speaking countries which endured most of the evil brutality from UK, Spain, French and Portugal….. just as it miseducation applies in the Caribbean and certain parts of US and UK…

    The best way forward, do your research, if you have done genetic testing, you can find your tribe in West Africa, most Caribbean people are predominantly of West African descent…you can find pure blood African relatives who live there or moved to the west who can give u all the information you need about tribal customs practices, religion etc…it can be very intense so be prepared….some practices are not much different to the shite lodges, but more powerful because there is real power in the various BLOODLINES…

    …most Haitians are also West African descent…for those who believe they are so different, or special ..the special comes when ya can actually IDENTIFY WHO YOU ARE AND EXACTLY WHERE U CAME FROM…that is when you FIND SPECIAL….the different comes when you SEE why you should do ur research….but you are not alone, am still coming to terms with what am finding…and there is much to find, start looking..take back ur stolen powers.

    Africa awaits..

    The re-education of the BLACK MIND…should have ALREADY STARTED on the island ..but ya have weak, corrupt, uppity, self-serving delusional leaders…useless to any cause that frees or raises BLACK PEOPLE out of poverty and IGNORANCE….so dont hold your breath…..ya on ya own.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @whitehill

    Good afternoon whitehill.

    A strong independent black woman turned you down again?

    Give yaself time. You will get over it.

    You don’t own anybody. Any woman has the right to say “no” to you.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @John at 11:40 a.m.

    Hal has no right to decide who can be let into Barbados. He is at best now a “paper” Bajan. Hasn’t lived here for decades, doesn’t have the right to vote here because he hasn’t lived here for decades, likely has paid little or no taxes here for decades, is too old.

    Why do you think that Hal should be making decisions for 3 generations of Bajans who have been born since he voluntarily left Barbados?

    And if Hal were my literal brother, the son of my father and mother, I would say the same. They too have been away too long–more than 40, 50, 60 years–to be making decisions for 21st century Bajans. And I love my siblings. If any of them wanted a kidney tomorrow, I would be on a plane this afternoon. Akidney yes. A vote or decisions affecting resident Bajans, no.

    I know a fellow who had not seen his “wife” for more that 25 years. She had migrated and ceased contact with him. And he was still walking ’bout talking ’bout “my wife” The woman had been dead for years and he did not even know that he was a widower.

    As Hal would say nonsense.

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  • @The president for life, you are the only strong independent black woman I’ve ever begged for a piece that has turned me down. You have no idea what you’ve missed out on. You can out that in your pipe….

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    TLSN at 11:02 “ritual sacrifice…casting out of demons”

    The last ritual murder in Barbados that I can recall was a Little Bay in St. Lucy, in the late 1950’s, or early ’60’s. I can show you the cave next time you visit. Earlier this year there was a woman “Rose” who was “casting out demons” from a teenaged girl in Barbados.

    The case at Little Bay was a white Bajan man. The case with “Rose” this year was a white English woman.

    But do these cases say anything about white people generally?

    i say “no”

    Does Hal’s experience, as stated by Hal, not verified by anybody, say anything about Ghanian, West African, Caribbean or black nurses generally?

    I say “no”

    As I said I have run into a “bad” white nurse too, but I did not assume that her lack of skills had anything to do with her whiteness.

    Every culture engages in ritualistic behaviour. If the ritualistic behaviour harms others, then the larger society punishes such behaviour.

    Ghanian nurses in Barbados will be subject to Barbados law just like anybody else.

    And in any event how wunna know that I don’t have West Africans in my immediate family? Some good? Some bad? Some I am always happy to see? Some I don’t care if i never see again? Bajan in my family too. Some good. Some bad.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    And for the person who told of husbands withholding their wive’s passports, which of course was very wrong,

    But I found this American story. The U.S. State Department typically did not issue passports to married women in their own names until the late 1930’s. before that passports were issued to men, with a notation “and his wife”

    I myself have my father’s old passport in a filing cabinet here and it includes his photograph and the words, Mr. John Doe and “his wife.” that nameless, faceless person being my good mother.

    So what the writer was seeing was not Nigerian nor West African, nor black “wickedness” but a long, long, long history of toxic masculinity where a married woman became a non-person. It is/was not a black thing nor a white thing. It was sexism writ large.

    https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/us-passport-history-women

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  • For the repulsive leaders, ain’t life a beach…lol.

    https://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/ny-mohamed-morsi-dies-suddenly-20190617-zmedmmydobendpmycbq3ifmi2m-story.html#nt=oft-Single%20Chain~Recommender~top-right-chain~2headline-stack~~4~no-art~automated~curatedpage

    “Mohamed Morsi, Egypt’s former president who was ousted in 2013 following mass protests, died suddenly Monday after collapsing in court during his trial, according to local television reports. He was 67.

    Morsi, a senior member of the Muslim Brotherhood party, became the country’s first president elected through free elections in 2012. He was ousted a year later by the military following massive protests over his rule. The widespread uproar also resulted in a major crackdown of the Brotherhood, with many of the group’s leaders being arrested.

    He was on trial for espionage charges and attending a session Monday when he died. Morsi had just finished up addressing the court from behind a glass cage, warning that he had “many secrets” he could reveal, before he collapsed, a judicial officer said to The Associated Press.”

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    Up to 1983 in Australia a married woman could not apply for a passport unless she had her husband’s written consent. No consent? No passport, so no travel for her. Her husband didn’t have to withhold her passport from her. He had the mighty state to do the dirty work for him.

    Sexism and toxic masculinity.

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  • @ Georgie Porgei,

    Route 20 goes to Howells + and Ivy. The buses were owned by Trotman until the creation of the Transport Board.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    Journalism 101: Say exactly what you mean. Remember that when you are writing on a blog, or a newspaper, your audience is the common man or woman, people just like your parents and grandparents. This is Barbados Underground, not the Journal of Theoretical Nuclear Physics.

    If granny or grandpa can’t understand what you are saying, chances are you are trying to BS somebody.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    Journalism 101: Say exactly what you mean. Remember that when you are writing on a blog, or a newspaper, your audience is the common man or woman, people just like your parents and grandparents. This is Barbados Underground, not “The Journal of Theoretical Nuclear Physics”.

    If granny or grandpa can’t understand what you are saying, chances are you are trying to BS somebody.

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  • Piece the Legend

    @ all

    The point Mr Austin, Hal is making is a nuance that, until you have seen it, AND EXPERIENCED IT FOR YOURSELF, you cannot identify with it.

    It is an intangible element, much like radiation which, though there, cant be recognized until your flesh starts to drop off your hand.

    So the statement about Barbados having laws that people must adhere to, is irrelevant

    Hal is making a preemptive observation that, before these nurses come to Barbados, that they need to be socialised in what we will accept.

    Further to his preemptive warning, he is warning our successive poochlicking administrations that the placement of these Human Resource elements in our Queen Elizabeth Hospital SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED A GIFT FOR OUR COUNTRY but is a veritable Trojan Horse which, if not planned for WILL BE A DESTRUCTIVE THING IN OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM.

    Do you guys remember the White Man at the Light and Power company who kicked the black employee a few years back?

    Or the white bajan who stuck the black mans head into the display counter and no one in Barbados said word one?

    Hal is saying that we are placing 800 of these culturally incompatible nurses AT OUR MAIN HOSPITAL WHICH IS ALREADY FVCKED UP AS IS, to further destroy our health care system.

    Until we, black people, are able to repair the collective psyche that AS LONG AS WE ARE BLACK, WE ARE BROTHERS, this intangible tangible WILL PERSIST TO OUR COLLECTIVE DETRIMENT!

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  • Piece
    The GOB has determined or dictated that there will be expansion of hours at 2 clinics, and they will do it however they can…especially as there is no opposition. They do not care where the nurses come from, or what their qualifications or social or psyches are. Mugabe has said “so let it be written and so let it be done.” As Asstin predicts it will end in tears.

    i wonder what Dr Byer would have said about this in 1953 when he established the polyclinics. lol

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  • @ Simple Simon the spurned woman for life lol, I doubt the women complained or even saw it as sexism when the Australian men stole the land from the indigenous people and turned it into what it is today. Just like Barbados, most of you women remained at home while the men went out with forks and hoes and turned this islands into what it is today; made sure their daughters got a decent education so they wouldn’t have to work at the plantations’ houses as domestics like their mothers and grand mothers. Now you got the fucking nerves to import some word from white women ”Toxic masculinity.” Where in the Bajan male/ female experience did you lot experience toxic males? Maybe if you old ass women would stop fooping young punk ass boys, young enough to be your grand sons; go and find decent matured intelligent men like Hal, Piece and myself, then you wouldn’t be left feeling so angry and bitter. #toxicmasculinitymyass

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    But Dr. GP, I thought that it was you who established the polyclinics in 1953 even while you were yet in diapers.

    Lolll!!!

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    But whitehill, if you can “love” the white women, why can’t I too?

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  • re But Dr. GP, I thought that it was you who established the polyclinics in 1953 even while you were yet in diapers.

    Lolll!!!

    yes fare picker i wrote that for you-just for you and you 100% responded just I expected ya piece of scum!

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    Hal went to London and adapted and made a stupendous success of his life, in that alien culture.

    Whitehill went to New York and adapted and made a huge success of his life in that alien culture.

    Dr. GP went to Florida and made a tremendous success of his life in that alien culture.

    Piece went to? I don’t know, maybe Mars, maybe someplace else and made a great success of his life in that alien culture.

    I think that all ‘o wunna need to lay off the Ghanian women. I expect that the Ghanian women are just as intelligent, just as competent, just as adaptable as you all are, and will be just as capable of making a success of their lives. They don’t need you “big boys” to hold their hands.

    Nor do they do not need your permission to move to Barbados. Did you ask their permission to move to the United Kingdom, United States, Mars? etc?

    NO.

    We the people of West African, Ghanian descent are probably the most adaptable people in the world.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    Piece there is nothing nuanced about Hal’s racist statements.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    Not sure what coolade whitehill is drinking. Women stayed at home? Do you think that staying at home to raise nearly a dozen children is some kind of Sunday School picnic? And then going out to paid work once the youngest child is in elementary school. My oldest discovered ancestor, my great aunt Mary, born in 1868 was a working woman and used her earnings to buy her own house and land. Her great granddaughter later sold some of the land to put herself through law school.

    None of the women In my family have ever put out their hands saying gimmee, gimmee.

    I’ve told you before that you need to choose better quality female associates.

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  • PIECE WROTE
    Hal is making a preemptive observation that, before these nurses come to Barbados, that they need to be socialised in what we will accept.

    THERE IS A CENTER FOR DOING SUCH A THING IN MAITLAND FLORIDA FOR THE NURSES RECRUITED FROM ALL OVER, BEFORE THEY ARE DEPLOYED ALL OVER THE WORLD

    ONE THINKS THAT THE AMERICANS ARE RACIST TO DO THIS. LIKE HAL THE AMERICAN RECRUITERS DONT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING

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  • THERE IS A CENTER FOR SOCIALIZING OVERSEAS NURSES IN MAITLAND FLORIDA FOR THE NURSES RECRUITED FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD, BEFORE THEY ARE DEPLOYED TO ALL PARTS OF THE USA.

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  • Piece the Legend

    @ SirSimpleSimonPresidentforLife

    De ole man hurtled!

    You give everybody else a jurisdiction and send de ole man to Mars, habitation offers the God of War?

    The thing bout wunna island people who never left the rock, if only to go to Culpepper island, is that you are islsnd-locked!

    You never was did leave Barbados and doan got one “alien” experience other than watching Invasion of the Body Snatchers pun TV.

    You represent 85% of the bajan population of culturally starved and internationally famished in your understanding of tourists.

    Barring fooping a white woman or fooling a white man (heheheheh I got to be politically correct okay?), the experience and exposure to outside cultures is zilch.

    You have no idea about what Hal, nor Dr. GP nor de ole man talking bout AND WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE SAYUNG.

    Do you fold your legs?

    No I am not talking bout your sex life, I just want to know if, when you sit down if you fold your legs

    And do the soles of your shoes show?

    “… Showing the soles of the feet in the Middle East is an act of disrespect because you are exposing the lowest and dirtiest part of your body…”

    What we are saying is that these Nurses have a cultural disposition which is not as simple as showing the bottom of your shoes Sir Simpl and which SHOULD BE GIVEN SERIOUS THOUGHT BEFORE UNLEASHING THESE PEOPLE IN THE QEH!

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  • Piece the Legend

    @ the Honourable Blogmaster your assistance please thank you

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  • They unleashed Filipino nurses on QEH fine enough, and no one said a word…no complaints, they put in their years and left.

    Don’t think it’s their first rodeo with African nurses either…i do believe there were some, years ago.

    … as far as i understand, these will be nursing interns working toward nursing diplomas in their land for completing internships in Barbados..easier to keep in line.

    No big deal at all, no need to make it into one.

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