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BU commenter sirFuzzy posted the following comment to the blog Prime Minister Mottley Talks Digital @BITT Conference.

@BU David, may i suggest a blog on REnewable energy. it is a longer term focus but it is a good “RE” with almost guaranteed payback.

With the trade wars between China and US adding pressure plus USA potential backlash on any country buying Iranian crude; the price of crude oil is 70+ on the world market and rising. That is having a big impact on Barbados and our economic prospects e.g. tourism; and the energy we consume to provide services on the rock etc. Barbados runs on fossil fuels for the most part.

In the medium term will BNOC be able to get its crude processed if PetroTrin closes it refinery?

JMT

Some credit must be given to the former government and a few private sector players for developing the renewable energy sector. One of the few good initiatives the former administration may lay claim.

The benefits of diversifying the energy sector is huge for Barbados given the high consumption of  fossil energy which has to be paid for with scarce foreign exchange we have been struggling to earn. Just look at the international reserves trendline of the last decade.

Barbados is described by the economists as an open economy most vulnerable to exogenous shocks to coin a term. It is not an export led economy therefore Barbados has to be ultra aggressive in rolling out initiatives like Renewable Energy to act as a buffer against the volatility of price movement in the oil market.

One of the reasons Prime Minister Mottley gave for allowing the country to slip into selected default (SD) was her concern that – as the hurricane season was upon us – if struck, it would precipitate a level of economic chaos given the falling foreign exchange reserves and high debt obligations to external creditors. She sought to get ahead of the the potential problem by negotiating debt restructuring with creditors. This was her call given her government’s 30 love mandate. Time will tell if it works out.

The BU community is insisting that she demonstrates a similar level of passion and leadership towards continuing to implement a relevant REnewable Energy program given the size of the national oil bill and the forex savings to be had supported by the need to diversify our energy supply.   The environmentalists and others with commonsense might suggest it is a good ‘fit’ for a SID to adopt a clean energy strategy. We also have developments in Trinidad and Venezuela to be urgent about implementing a sensible energy policy.

No long term economic stabilization and economic plan for Barbados can be constructed without including a smart strategy approach to energy policy. Successive governments have adopted a lazy approach to deconstructing the oil sector given the money interest. EMERA, SOL, RUBIS need we say more? It is easy to tax the sector to prop up the treasury while prominent others are always able to influence the decisions of government in theirnarrow interest.

Ministers Wilfred Abrahams and Kirk Humphrey have been trusted with the responsibility for energy AND the Blue economy respectively.    To date Abrahams has been consumed with plugging the holes in a leaking sewage line on the South Coast and Humphrey has been prolific in his visits to fish markets around the island while wearing nice suits. Time to leave those tasks to the others gentlemen and become more strategic to align with the pressing demands of state.The photo ops approach did not work for Esther Byer-Suckoo.

Mia Mottley has set the bar for her large Cabinet and supporting cast as to what is required. It is clear to the blogmaster who does not sit in Cabinet that she has done a reasonable job to articulate her vision for Barbados becoming ‘fit for purpose’ in quick time if we are avoid rivalling Zimbabawe in a race to the bottom.

Forget the RH histrionics and think RH instead.

 


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92 responses to “The RE in RERE”


  1. Well said David.


  2. Jesus Christ David why you keep repeating Mia whimsical decisions for defaulting on barbados debt
    It was a bad decision
    Full stop.
    A country with a small population and no productivty on which some help can be source to pull barbagos debt wagon
    The repercussions from the default is going to be unbearable
    Past govt relentless efforts to block past govt efforts to pursue less harsh economic policies will surely bit present govt in the ar.ss while household feel the unbearble burden of pain and economic suffering
    No country that has ever defaulted on debt has arises from the depth of economic doldrums with investors confidence in tact
    Btw do not expect Hyatt to come on board
    This is a corporation that looks at govt performance
    So far persent govt has shown it has a high level of not committing to debt agreements


  3. Sir FUSSY has a good idea with ‘RE, however the big issue is BARBADOS IS FINANCIALLY BROKE, both government and private enterprise. This approach is one that should have been undertaken some 20 years ago when the financial situation in Barbados was more positive, today they would be reaping the benefits of such a plan. You can take a horse to WATER but you cannot make him drink. Government Decisions present and past were soley made on CORRUPT influence, WHAT’S IN IT FOR MY POLITICAL POCKET. The future good of the country was never considered. Unfortunately it’s only taken 50 years of this myopic approach to bring BARBADOS four(4) times under IMF bailouts. Unless the country undergoes a major operational philosophy change nothing is going to change.

    Thankfully The River Tamarin are flourishing in Barbados and can be used to make charcoal for cooking etc as petroleum products are no longer going to be affordable in the near future. Renewable energy at its best.


  4. @Wily

    The plan by you is to join with partisans and the failed state brigade by criticizing every single policy plan of government and Barbados? We should assume a prostrate position and by effed? Let us agree that Barbados has missed the boat based on lethargic and irrelevant policies of the past. Until the world ends what should we do?

    On second thoughts do not answer, we will replay your previous comments.


  5. @David

    Get your head from up your ASS, take a breath of fresh air and you to will shortly being smelling the roses.

    Barbadian populace, you as a BLP supporter will soon find out just how dire the BARBADOS situation. Stop blaming the DLP, as the blame for the present Barbados failed Sovergien state lies with you and the populace, STOP blaming others. The general populace because of ignorance, slave mentality, entitlements etc and thier lack of objections, understanding etc has lead to the present crisis situation and is fully to blame.

    It’s time for the blame game to STOP, in a democracy as Barbados claims to be, the voting populace is RESPONSIBLE, period.


  6. You may have the last word.


  7. @ David
    Wily has a point.

    How is it that we NEVER seem to apply common sense solutions to national problems – as any basic household would – to family problems?
    R.E. has been no success story for the DLP.
    On the contrary, it has been the usual shitty failure – like everything else that they did.

    Barbados is a NATURAL for R.E. We should be a world leader – based on our natural resources.
    Excellent sunshine resources year round…
    Constant and moderate winds …. almost continually
    Flat terrain that suits electric vehicles
    Small size that makes electric range limits meaningless..

    YET, after ten years of talking shiite, they have managed almost NOTHING. Most of the solar companies are now bankrupt.
    It takes two years to get a license to install a solar system…

    …meanwhile, our fossil fuel bill is over $600M EVERY year.

    In comes the BLP… and rather than seek to identify what was WRONG with the DLP approach, they install THEIR OWN people to do the exact same shiite that was being done before … guided by the lackie public servants that also misled the DLP jokers.
    Remember who led this under the DLP?

    IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM UNLESS YOU UNDERSTAND AND ACKNOWLEDGE THE UNDERLYING FAILURES.

    You keep pushing this thing about letting bygones be bygones and ‘moving forward’…
    THIS IS FLAWED.

    Salvation BEGINS with repentance…. First you MUST CONFESS your brass bowlery..
    Then you MUST seek to do the RIGHT things … pursue righteousness..
    ONLY THEN …will you see the beginning of success.

    How can Bushie trust ANYTHING from the BLP when they seem to have brought into the shiite that the DLP did …. based on their lack of prosecution of JUSTICE….?

    Is it that they cannot bring themselves to prosecute THE VERY SHIITE that they will be doing?


  8. @Bush Tea

    It is a process.we are here now. Forward ever, backward never.


  9. Jesus Christ David why you keep repeating Mia whimsical decisions for defaulting on barbados debt
    It was a bad decision
    Full stop.
    A country with a small population and no productivty on which some help can be source to pull barbagos debt wagon
    The repercussions from the default is going to be unbearable
    Presentbgovt relentless efforts to block past govt efforts to pursue less harsh economic policies will surely bit present govt in the ar.ss while household feel the unbearble burden of pain and economic suffering
    No country that has ever defaulted on debt has arisen from the depth of economic doldrums with investors confidence in tact
    Btw do not expect Hyatt to come on board
    This is a corporation that looks at govt performance
    So far persent govt has shown it has a high level of not committing to debt agreements

  10. sirfuzzy (i was a sheep some years ago; not a sheep anymore) Avatar
    sirfuzzy (i was a sheep some years ago; not a sheep anymore)

    @ David,

    Many here consider us to be a socialist democracy. However we claim to have a free market approach towards business and land ownership etc. IMO we are just missing out an good leadership and a willingness to change for the better. As the song by Sparrow said “we like it go”. @David that’s a general-ism all don’t like it but enff of us do. Some even get punished for not “liking it so”. It is a weird “status quo”, with little if any present or future benefits.

    We are blessed to have plenty sunshine, we are blessed to be at a time when two major technologies are in the ascendency.

    a) Renewable Energy (PV & Wind and possible Agricultural(waste) & Wave); of which Barbados will have no recurring forex charges if harnessed. They will be build out cost; low running cost in the terms of operating and maintenance (O&M). However I shiver any time i hear the word maintenance used as a requirement in the bajan context.

    b) Electrification of everything. (1) Transportation being the most relevant at the moment. Again a major part of this transition will include that dirty M-word; maintenance. Vehicles need maintenance if they are to be useful during their expected life-span.

    by in large the BL&P is the sole distributor of electrical energy on the island. As an utility it has a very good track record. We have to honour this record in any moves that we make as they are responsible for the maintenance of the distribution grid/network and do an excellent good with such. Maybe the M-word does not scared them as much as it scares me.

    Please correct me if i am wrong; but i think GoB & SOEs probably have the largest fleet of vehicles on the island; is the largest renter of property and owner of building property in the island. They may be the largest land owner of developed and undeveloped land as well. The largest consumer of electricity. Therefore the GOB has an opportunity to impact the island like no other single entity.

    We need to make REnewable sexy. make them desirable so that an emotional connection to renewable along with energy AND WATER CONVERSATION becomes passionate and a vibe in the society. Renewables must be seen and heard to be making an active difference in any household. It must be a Reoccurring PR campaign to Remind and Reinforce its benefits to the country.

    I have an idea maybe it cannot work or its not feasible. Where possible along the ABC hwy (i have identified the Belle Stretch) have single or dual solar trackers positioned on the either side of the road along the entire length of that portion of tHe roadway to harness PV energy. The pv trackers will no utilise to much land. Trackers are move effective at generating pv energy so u will need les of them than fixed tilt operations. It will generate electricity maybe for use by BWA at the nearby Belle pumping station.

    Consider that placing similar solar tracker along the Constitution river embankment can have two benefits; electricty and shade for persons using the area. If that is not feasible how about place the trackers in the river itself on pylons. Again generating energy that can help power the new Constitution river terminal complex.

    We need to consider small wind turbines that may be spread over the island. Maybe 500Kw wind turbines spread around on plantations island wide or vacant private or government properties to collect as much wind energy as possible. Smaller micro-wind-turbines in areas or on buildings where the larger ones are not permitted etc.

    We need to maximise land space usage. Having a portion of land that can produce food and/or provide recreation as well as energy domestically is a way better use of the land. any land space that cannot be use for commercial/agricultural active because of whatever reason should be used to generate some form of REnewable energy.

    All roofs for rent or lease! There are private business & church buildings that have excellent opportunities to lease or rent their roof of their building to generate REnewable via PV. Every secondary school should be a RE generator. Secondary schools lie pretty dormant in the summer months the secondary school will probably be a net producer during vacation times and a small consumer when school is in session. Schools with adequate land in excellent wind zones can have micro-wind-turbines on the compound.

    “Many hands make light work”, “many roofs with pv installed make the light work”!

    Just my take.


  11. We have to wait for the outcome of the restructure process of the debt. The local debt is nearly irrelevant, but the foreign debt in USD is most important. I assume these debts are under American jurisdiction, so the local lawmaker or the local judges cannot interfere. If this operation does not work, the island is lost.

    So far the natives believe that they can go on as usual. Just look at the latest mess with the tourist authority. Barbados does not need two SOEs for tourism. These people have no added value for tourism. Why should tourists pay for a tourist authority they don´t need? It only makes sense for the local, highly irrational feeling. The tourist authority is just another way to employ as many lazy laggards as possible.

    Of course Barbados can be saved. However, quick and drastic action is needed like mass emigration, devaluation, cutting down the bloated civil service, deregulation, privatization, green energy, new modus operandi for tourism with gambling etc pp, not the usual soft and weak approach.

    The problem is that the local population is as conservative as the former Taliban in Kandahar or the clerics in Saudi Arabia when it comes to modernization.

  12. millertheanunnaki Avatar

    @ David BU:
    “The BU community is insisting that she demonstrates a similar level of passion and leadership towards continuing to implement a relevant REnewable Energy program given the size of the national oil bill and the forex savings to be had supported by the need to diversify our energy supply. “

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Now how should the MAM administration go about demonstrating such a ‘passionate’ commitment to the salvation of Barbados whose economy is about to go under in a few months unless a fairy godmother in the form of a bumper tourism season appears on the horizon?

    Would you recommend that an all-out ban be placed on all non-industrial / commercial vehicles in excess of 1600 c.c. unless powered by electricity and purchased out of privately-sourced forex like the vehicle granted duty-free status for a phantom Director of Sales to a imaginary Hyatt hotel?

    Why not get rid of all those costly-to-maintain high-end ML& MP vehicles unless they are needed for day-to-day business operations or for security reasons to protect vulnerable individuals holding high-profile public officers?

    Shouldn’t her Finance and Energy ministers be holding the heads of all government entities directly accountable for reducing the massive energy bills paid to Emera like making sure that all non-essential lighting is turned off after business hours?

    Barbados just cannot afford the artificial Xmas trees seen all year around especially in the new concrete jungle nicknamed the Warrens gulag for white-collar public sector parasites.


  13. Miller,

    Barbados does NOT need ANY vehicles running on fossil fuel anymore. Even security cars and trucks can make it without fuel. Reason: Barbados does not face the typical obstacles against electrification, namely large distances and lack of sun.

    However, as you know, the local politicians and their Barbadian voters are too conservative to move. They want to live in some little America with big trucks and SUVs, drug crime, obesity and fast food.

    p.s. “… unless they are needed for day-to-day business operations or for security reasons to protect vulnerable individuals holding high-profile public officers?” Security is just another excuse of the local Wabenzis to rob the taxpayer and to live large at the expense of foreign creditors.


  14. @sirFuzzy

    Some telling points as is your wont.

    The solar trackers/panels can be sold to the public as an upgrade to the river tamarind Bush currently littering that section of the highway.

    Again you are on to something that the government can show leadership in the adoption of electric/hybrid vehicles. Interesting that this morning Abrahams was quoted in the news that his ministry is currently working with partners to release 1000 vehicles on the roads. We hope the power outlets to fuel? the vehicles are all RE powered or it defeats the purpose. He was quick to hint however that legislation is lagging. What is new?


  15. Barbados’ situation can be explained by the second law of thermodynamics

    Barbados has been running irreversible processes since independence. Entropy increases after an irreversible process. Entropy is simply the amount of disorder in a system or the amount of useless energy (energy that cannot be converted to work). The more disordered a system the less efficient it is, there is energy available but it is in a form that cannot be used.

    To make matters worse we continue running the same irreversible processes over and over, which leads to more and more disorder and less and less available energy for work.

    Feeding Barbados with more energy whether it be in the form of money or resources will do nothing unless we stop running the irreversible processes.

    So the concept of renewable energy is an oxymoron in a country that strives on running irreversible processes and you don’t need a PhD in physics to understand that

    or maybe you do


  16. @Redguard

    Can the rebuild effort be coterminous to your point?


  17. Q. Until the world ends what should we do?
    A. PRAY! PRAYER MIGHT HELP.

    PRAY MORE AND BRAY LESS!
    DO MORE AND BARK AND BRIMBLE LESS!


  18. Renewable energy cost money to implement and develop
    Govt say Barbados is broke
    Where will govt get the money?
    Private business in this hot over heated economic climste would be unreliable
    Whuch then begs the question if not govt or Private business where would govt source finances for further development of renewable
    All blp efforts to stampede over govt policies will continue to but them in the ar.ss


  19. @Redguard
    YOUR SCIENCE ANALOGY MAKES SENSE THIS TIME
    LAST WEEK THE ONE ABOUT GOD NOT FACTORING MAN’S BEHAVIOUR INTO HIS EQUATION RE GLOBAL WARMING WAS VERY FLAWED
    1- YOUR CHEMISTRY OF CO2 WAS TOTALLY ERRONEOUS
    2- YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF OMNISCIENCE WAS VERY POOR

  20. sirfuzzy (i was a sheep some years ago; not a sheep anymore) Avatar
    sirfuzzy (i was a sheep some years ago; not a sheep anymore)

    (quote) He was quick to hint however that legislation is lagging. What is new? (quote)

    We are not serious…… Really we are a bush or retards. and we apparently elected the smartest or most willing retards to repsent us.

    Think about it we amended the sacred constitution in a blink of an eye to get two persons into the Senate. Two unknown quantities becuase it is yet to be seen what they will do?

    We were so quick because that whole thing was important. Barbados will sink faster unless the dynamic dual were not seated in the senate.

    We changed the bill so that it is now in line with CCJ expectation. I am sure murders and crime they commit is of high priority.

    And Min Abrahams says, that key legislation is lagging. “murder in the market murder’ Btw did he have a smirk or smile when he said this?

    As Bushtea would usually opine “ass please prepare to encounter grass”

    SMH


  21. @David

    No. The system is broken.
    Look at the evidence, we try to introduce renewable energy, something that should revolutionise the country but instead it leads to more disorder, what madness. And the solution is to throw more funds at it.

    We are trying to rebuild using the same poorly thought out processes, it won’t work


  22. @GP that must have really hit a nerve with you huh. And my science is right, it is for man to fix no God


  23. NO IT DID NOT HIT ANY NERVES

    I JUST WONDERED HOW A MERE MAN COULD BE SO STUPID
    GOD DOES NOT HAVE TO JUMP AND FIX THE NONSENSE THAT MAN DOES……AND HE USUALLY DOES NOT

    IF YOU CAN NOT SWIM…..GO JUMP IN THE CAREENAGE AND SEE IF YOU WONT DROWN, YA MORON

    GO HAVE UNPROTECTED SEX WITH SOMEONE WITH HIV AIDS AND SEE IF YOU WONT GET THE DREADED DISEASE……..THEN ASK HIM TO FIX IT

    YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF THE CHEMISTRY IS NOT RIGHT AT ALL
    CARBON DIOXIDE PLUS WATER GIVES CARBONATES EVENTUALLY WHICH DISSOLVES IN WATER. THIS IS AS BASIC AS DAN IS THE MAN IN THE VAN!

    THE BONDING OF CO2 AND H20 DECIDES THAT EMPHATICALLY

  24. sirfuzzy (i was a sheep some years ago; not a sheep anymore) Avatar
    sirfuzzy (i was a sheep some years ago; not a sheep anymore)

    @ Mariposa September 20, 2018 8:42 AM

    last time i checked everything cost money. Doing nothing cost money; doing something wrong cost money; doing something right cost money.

    There will be a cost; we just need to spend the money in the right way and just enuff of it to maximise the returns.

    If we deicide to do nothing the world will surely wave us good bye as it moves on and leaves us behind

    We need to be smarter; leaner and better at what we do. You will have your ideas on how that is done it will be a contest of ideas etc, but “we in this thing together”; u only get out/away when u pass on/away.


  25. to all BU BRIMBLERS WHO SEEK TO UNDERSTAND CHEMICAL BONDING……….AND THUS BE ABLE TO DEBUNK THE BS ABOUT CO2 EMMISSIONS AND GLOBAL WARNING I WOULD RECOMMEND ………

    Chemical Bonding: Audrey L. Companion: 9780070123700

    AFTER ALL THESE YEARS THIS BOOK IS STILL TOP OF THE LIST ON THIS SUBJECT


  26. Environmentalist Base their False Notion that C02 is Bad for the Planet, While building their whole Green Energy Claim on a Lie.. Here is what they do not want you to know…

    “Carbon Dioxide — The Miracle of Food

    What is food? The essential materials for life are food, water and oxygen. Of the three, food is required in the largest quantity. Almost all food is carbon dioxide, either consumed directly by plants, or indirectly when animals and humans consume plants.

    We do not think of ourselves as subsisting almost entirely on carbon dioxide — we eat meat, fruits and vegetables. But the animals we eat grew and lived on plants, typically grass. Likewise, fruits and vegetables are plants, as are the trees that cover the earth. And plants consume almost entirely carbon dioxide for food.

    It is true that humans, animals and plants require very small quantities of other essential material. We call ours vitamins and minerals. We call what the plants need nutrients or fertilizer. But while these materials are important, the quantities required are insignificant to life, compare to the carbon dioxide. So it is fair to say that the food used by all living things, to grow and to live, is carbon dioxide.

    People are incredibly ignorant of this fundamental fact — that food is carbon dioxide. The reason is that it has not been important until now. We do not consume carbon dioxide directly, do not go to the store and get. And, more importantly, when we grow plants we do not provide the carbon dioxide they consume. They take it out of the air. The food is free!

    We may work very hard to provide the water and the nutrients the plants need, as well as sunlight and protection from extreme temperature, but the food is free and we have nothing to do with providing it. So for millions of years people have grown and consumed plants and animals without knowing what they were eating. This fundamental fact was only discovered in modern times, and we still don’t understand the process very well. Even today, most people have no idea that their food, and the food all the plants and animals that cover the earth, is carbon dioxide.

    But the existence of food at all is a miracle. Carbon dioxide is not abundant in the air. In fact it is very rare. Only about one molecule in 3000 in the air is carbon dioxide. So the billions of people on earth, pus the untold trillions or quadrillions of plants and animals, are all growing and living on a rare gas. That is the miracle of food”.

    http://www.craigellachie.us/fossilfuels/greening_benefits/miracle.html
    Carbon diaxide — The Miracle of Food


  27. Some asked for some radical ideas and Sir Fuzzy delivered some to save the rock.

    Here is another radical idea:

    BARBADOS 2020: THE HUNGER GAMES

    Each parish has to send two civil servants every year to the so-called hunger games. The participants will fight with the weapons used in Black Rock, court and parliament. There will be only one survivor, a national hero. PM MAM will open the games, the Chinese guy will be the director and Hoyte commentator at CBC. Bridgetown will be the “capital”, St. Lucy acts as district 13. The games will take place in the parishes of St. John, St. Joseph and St. Andrew. There will be cameras on every tree. Donville Inniss will establish a pay-per-view platform on the internet to distribute the content. Rich foreigners are allowed to participate for 10 mio. USD per day.


  28. What Dr. Georgie Porgie is Saying…

    Why Carbon Dioxide is the “Miracle Molecule of Life” for GREENING our planet

    This stunning mini-documentary reveals why eliminating carbon dioxide would WIPE OUT humanity, all plants, all animals and nearly every ecosystem on the planet.

    ref=fb-share


  29. There country is broke where will the money be sourced
    These initiatives should have been done during the booming years
    Cant make blood out of stone
    STFU and stop spinning wheels in mud
    So tiring


  30. The money will come when the IMF Board endorses the program that will unlock investment opportunities from other lending agencies.


  31. FC
    IT IS THE NORM FOR MOST BU BRIMBLERS TO BRIMBLE OUT OF THE AREA OF THEIR EXPERTISE AND EVEN CHALLENGE THE EXPERTS, AS THEY ARE “WISE IN THEIR OWN CONCEIT”
    BESIDES BEING STUPID IT MAKES FOR GOOD ENTERTAINMENT ……SOME TIMES

  32. Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right Avatar
    Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right

    ammmmm

    de ole man has to write this in 10 minutes flat so here goes

    Paint!

    De ole man is reliably informed that “…For paints to meet engineering inspection specifications they are subjected to test which demonstrate paint qualities under duress ergo the preponderance of Paint Striping demo lanes on certain highways in the US and Canada…”

    That paint is put down for free!!

    Let us imaging that the Renewable Energy division at UWI or at the Ministry of Energy where Mr. Headley’s mentoree now resides were to orchestrate a virtual campaign to every single R.E entity in the US canada Australia or the UK.

    Under said RE initiative we would have our waste foop Embassies, as central contacts to encourage each and every one of those companies to set up 25 test units in barbados on 25 poor peoples houses.

    With the understanding that

    (a) these units would be free
    (b) they would be tested over the period of time stipulated
    (c) there would be an agreement for technology collaboration with the UWI
    (d) there would be an agreement that the cheapest and most RE optimized would be purchased by the government
    (e) as long as said units were manufactured/assembled here

    That said initiative would be monitored by UWI in conjunction with some of the indolent youth pun de block who would be specifically trained for the purpose of manufacturing and assembling siad units

    THat said concept of Barbados becoming a test bed for applicable technologies be extended to things other than paint which are pertinent and sustainable technologies where feasible.

    I gone for the rest of the day though cause …

  33. Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right Avatar
    Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right

    @ the Honourable Blogmaster

    Your assistance please with an item for this RE topic

    One notes that you are intoning the Public Relations messages of the BLP administration really well “…The money will come when the IMF Board endorses the program that will unlock investment opportunities from other lending agencies…”


  34. The blogmaster can share his opinion any time he damn well pleases in much the same you can. We can rail against every policy initiative of a 100 day government, or as patriotic citizens we can learn from the experiences of the past at home and abroad and fashion utterances to add value to the struggle of improving Barbados.


  35. Dr. GP… The Globalist is using Environmentalism to Push Control on the Population.

    Environmentalist Base their False Notion that C02 is Bad for the Planet, While building their whole Green Energy Claim on a Lie.. Here is what they do not want you to know…

    “Carbon Dioxide — The Miracle of Food…

    What is food? The essential materials for life are food, water and oxygen. Of the three, food is required in the largest quantity. Almost all food is carbon dioxide, either consumed directly by plants, or indirectly when animals and humans consume plants.

    We do not think of ourselves as subsisting almost entirely on carbon dioxide — we eat meat, fruits and vegetables. But the animals we eat grew and lived on plants, typically grass. Likewise, fruits and vegetables are plants, as are the trees that cover the earth. And plants consume almost entirely carbon dioxide for food.

    It is true that humans, animals and plants require very small quantities of other essential material. We call ours vitamins and minerals. We call what the plants need nutrients or fertilizer. But while these materials are important, the quantities required are insignificant to life, compare to the carbon dioxide. So it is fair to say that the food used by all living things, to grow and to live, is carbon dioxide.

    People are incredibly ignorant of this fundamental fact — that food is carbon dioxide. The reason is that it has not been important until now. We do not consume carbon dioxide directly, do not go to the store and get. And, more importantly, when we grow plants we do not provide the carbon dioxide they consume. They take it out of the air. The food is free!

    We may work very hard to provide the water and the nutrients the plants need, as well as sunlight and protection from extreme temperature, but the food is free and we have nothing to do with providing it. So for millions of years people have grown and consumed plants and animals without knowing what they were eating. This fundamental fact was only discovered in modern times, and we still don’t understand the process very well. Even today, most people have no idea that their food, and the food all the plants and animals that cover the earth, is carbon dioxide.

    But the existence of food at all is a miracle. Carbon dioxide is not abundant in the air. In fact it is very rare. Only about one molecule in 3000 in the air is carbon dioxide. So the billions of people on earth, pus the untold trillions or quadrillions of plants and animals, are all growing and living on a rare gas. That is the miracle of food”.


  36. The IMF loan is to barbados debt to financial institutions
    If govt goes beyond that agreement by way of using the money to boost our jump start other govt initiatives
    The govt run a riskbof being locked out of accesing further funding
    So where would the money be sourced for RE programs


  37. WHAT YOU HAVE SAID ABOVE THE BIBLE ENUNCIATES VERY CLEARLY AND SIMPLY IN Isaiah 40:6 & I Peter 1:24 thus……

    ALL FLESH IS GRASS !

    THESE FOUR WORDS ARE EXPANDED INTO LENGTHY CHAPTERS IN CONTEMPORARY BIOLOGY TEXTS ENTITLED THE FOOD PYRAMID

    JUST THINK OF HOW ALL THAT TOXIC CARBON DIOXIDE IN THE GRASS EATEN BY ELEPHANTS AND RHINOCERI AND ALL THOSE BIG BOVINE BEASTS AFFECTS THESE BRUTES EH? IT SURE MAKES THEM BIG!

    WANTS YUH TO TINK YA SHOULD NOT EAT YA VEGETABLES1


  38. On that Grass Note Dr.GP…

    King Grass is a tall grass and is easy to grow. It does not deplete the soil of its nutrients and can be grown repeatedly on the same spot. An amount is presently being grown and sold as fuel to BL&P to generate electricity, it does not require the looking after and fertilising like sugar cane plants.

    King Grass as an added benefit that hardly any one talks about is that this grass is loved by cows and black belly sheep as forage. If it is encouraged it may be the start of a beef and lamb industry. The more that cows and sheep walk to forage for their grass the leaner and tougher the meat, now with the advent of the grass being provided the animals will not have to walk and they will get fatter and the meat will be more tender and can be in greater demand. Some dairy farmers give their cows Molasses as this increase the milk yield in the existing herd but it is a pricy option. Barbados beef does have a nice and desirable distinctive taste but tough, only a real life experiment will tell if the beef will indeed be tenderer. With this king grass the dairy cows may be more tender when put out to market as their forage will be given them daily. Note: that this is currently done on dairy farms at present with other grasses in the form of silage.


  39. The BL&P can say now how much King Grass they can use now and in the future and if they want to use it as the main source for their boilers and the farmers can calculate how many acres are needed to satisfy BL&P with the rest for sheep/goat & cattle forage. No more Forex for furnace oil going out of the country. This is the real sustainability of power generation not solar or wind. Solar or wind requires huge outlays of capital whereas King Grass does not and we have the land and know how in planting readily available and can start tomorrow. So much of the land in Barbados is idle and as rab land. We are talking good Agriculture land idle drive around Barbados and you will see of which I speak.

    All of the waste that might be generated by these products/crops can be utilised with the King Grass to be burnt to create electricity and any resultant ash can be recycle back to the farms/plantations as a potash source for fertilising crops.

    What we do not see is that we are a small nation we are a drop in the world 7 Billion people if solar and wind was so great why they are not more countries doing it, the great Germans who was going green is now back peddling, as after paying high rate for electricity they still cannot reach a sustainable level that is cost effective. Remember they were going to buy gas from Russia and Trump called them out.

    The world is not going to run out of oil, with fracking we will have 500 years even if we continue using oil there will be no oil shock the oil price will never rise above $75 a barrel ($50 to $60 will be the new normal for a while, remember we paid over $100 for many years) Do you think in 500 years we will not discover how to separate water into hydrogen & oxygen that will burn to produce water? Which the last time I checked does not produce CO2.

    The fuel the most powerful fuel that NASA uses is water broken down to hydrogen and oxygen it fuels the rockets to get to space. It is not a resource we are going to run out off. When I was young we had a saying “do not jump the gun hold strain” and this resource is CHEAP. Why would I want to go solar now when they are a lot better days ahead, solar is old expensive technology, see the future the PM wants to use technologies to leap frog what we are doing.

    King Grass is a stop gap measure but it will be cheaper than Solar & Wind at this time for us here in Barbados. Sir Fuzzy please ask yourself who benefits when we go Solar and Wind the cost we pay now for electricity will look like heaven on earth if we go Solar & Wind as we will be asked to make up the cost as it is not cost effective. That means you and me so please do not make decisions on my behalf so that the provider of these old technologies make money and we are left with the bill as the DLP did to us.

    http://biomassmagazine.com/uploads/posts/web/2012/10/GiantKingGrass_13500613871449.jpg

    http://www.viaspace.com/images/kinggrassoverview/kinggrass-hawaii.jpg


  40. David,

    You commented: “The money will come when the IMF Board endorses the program that will unlock investment opportunities from other lending agencies.” In my opinion the IMF loan will be used to restructure the debt. The other “investments” are new debts from more lending agencies and no private investments. There is a big difference between borrowing foreign currency and incoming transfer of foreign without an obligation to pay back.

    So far Barbados Central Bank mixes up the two categories, creating the false impression for the clueless masses that Barbados sits on many millions USD, whereas somebody with some basic understanding knows that they treat debts like their own assets.


  41.         @Tron 
    

    The act of entering the IMF program and the discipline it imposes is promised to inspire private investment we are told. While this is happening government needs money to maintain infrastructure and improve at the same time.

  42. sirfuzzy (i was a sheep some years ago; not a sheep anymore) Avatar
    sirfuzzy (i was a sheep some years ago; not a sheep anymore)

    @ Mariposa September 20, 2018 10:39 AM

    There country is broke where will the money be sourced
    These initiatives should have been done during the booming years
    Cant make blood out of stone
    STFU and stop spinning wheels in mud

    *********++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Hind sight is always 20-20. We all know what should have been done in the “boom” years but then we/I/u were not as active as we are now, or had nothing to contribute, or were deemed irrelevant by the policy makers at that time; or a combination ot them.

    Hind sight is soo great no wonder no one can live there, I should have zigged instead of zagged. Chute i married the wrong effing person. The last child should have been aborted etc. Woulda Coulda Shoulda but u didn’t couldn’t wouldn’t. Why because you were living yesterday as it was your present; not necessarily your future.

    as much as Barbados is “Broke”(your words) i bet u we will still find money for new vehicle for judges; police; firemen; ambulances etc. We will find the money, it will come. When it comes we need to invest maybe in less of the “pie in the sky” projects and do some longer term projects that have a greater certainty of positive payback. These projects may not be glamours or sexy. May be hidden somewhere out of general sight, but maybe of immense value to the nation.

    I have never seen the BL&P solar farm, but i know it must be of value to Barbados. The farm is out of sight, not on anyone’s bucket list etc.

    I always remember this example of of misplaced/misguided 20-20 hindsight.

    My friend’s daughter was having an argument about coming home late from secondary school. The then 13 year old was advocating that her mother should not worry because she has a cell phone and that if she was in danger she would call. Her mother didn’t accept her initial reasoning. The 13 year old later said to her mother that when you were 13 you could have done the same thing. by calling your mother if you knew she was going to be late. Somehow the mother agreed with her and the agrument ended the daughter had won.
    After a bit i told her u must be smoking cause when u and i was 13 we had no cell phone; we actually had no house phone; there was no payphone booth around in the area; u could not easy ask for a phone message and your mother did not have easy access to a house phone either. So how would you have communicated with your mother about the lateness?

    What was possible for us at 13 was limited by today’s technology but was relevent to our point in time. You argument must bear relation to the time the technology and ethos in that era.


  43. @David

    “maintain infrastructure and improve at the same time”

    That’s the problem David, maintenance is supposed to be the easy task; you schedule the work, allocate the resources, get it done, monitor it. Straight forward PDCA and somehow we can’t get it done and have fooled or been fooled into believing the problem is lack of funds

    Improving now requires setting a standard first, achieving that standard with consistency and then setting a higher standard for improvement.

    The two cannot be done at the same time


  44. interesting thoughts Sir Fuzzy & FC


  45. @Redguard

    Maintenance should not be a concern of the politicians, directly. Should be a simple case of allocation of budget to the respective ministries for the PS to project manage. What we have is a blurring of the public sector and cabinet.

  46. sirfuzzy (i was a sheep some years ago; not a sheep anymore) Avatar
    sirfuzzy (i was a sheep some years ago; not a sheep anymore)

    @Fc

    Sir Fuzzy please ask yourself who benefits when we go Solar and Wind the cost we pay now for electricity will look like heaven on earth if we go Solar & Wind as we will be asked to make up the cost as it is not cost effective.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I have a both and approach not an either or approach. For the household or business King grass may not be workable.

    There is a few intermediate steps to move from king grass to KWH, it will be good for some and not workable to others.

    But all ideas should be debated and piloted for sure.

  47. sirfuzzy (i was a sheep some years ago; not a sheep anymore) Avatar
    sirfuzzy (i was a sheep some years ago; not a sheep anymore)

    @FC read it again u will see that i have not excluded agricultural inputs.

    a) Renewable Energy (PV & Wind and possible Agricultural(waste) & Wave); of which Barbados will have no recurring forex charges if harnessed. They will be build out cost; low running cost in the terms of operating and maintenance (O&M). However I shiver any time i hear the word maintenance used as a requirement in the bajan context.


  48. Mariposa did not say the country is broke the headlines in todays paper
    Refenced such to the wordings of the consultants and economic advisors
    Hindsight is a teacher and a reflection of what should have (been) done .but where there is no vision the people perish

    So once again i asked where is the sourcing of money coming from to implement R E programs


  49. Wait and see.

  50. sirfuzzy (i was a sheep some years ago; not a sheep anymore) Avatar
    sirfuzzy (i was a sheep some years ago; not a sheep anymore)

    @Fc

    Why cant we have a plantation full of of beautiful king grass and oil bearing fruit., whist the perimeter or cart road that gives access is doted with solar trackers and suitably sized wind turbine(is appliable). The tractor that cut or manages the farm is powered by bio-diesel or plant based fuel. The processing of the king grass may be fuelled with electricity from the RE sources etc. that will be maximum value added and saving precious forex. The excess enegy sold to hotel and other forex earning industries etc.

    it is a (both and) not an (either or) approach that is required.

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