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We were told that if we wanted the youth vote, that we must agree to legalise marijuana for recreational use.  Well, Solutions Barbados policies will significantly benefit the youth of Barbados.  However, while we plan to allow non-addictive extracts to be prescribed by doctors for medicinal uses, recreational use of marijuana is another question.

In a Solutions Barbados administration, using marijuana will not attract a prison sentence or court presence, but a fine, much like how illegal parking attracts a parking ticket.  Marijuana will remain an illegal substance in order to protect our youth.

Many of our youth tend to push the boundaries of what previous generations agreed was generally acceptable behaviour.  Some of our behaviours result from researched health and safety standards while some are cultural.

Our youth tend to push the boundaries of all behaviours during their development as they find their own way.  Parents and guardians are responsible for restraining them if their behaviours can cause harm to themselves or others.

During interactions with some young teenagers, they noted that they did not use Facebook, for the simple reason that many their parents used it.  Instead, they used the more recently developed application, Instagram, which few of their parents used.

Our youth have a natural desire to express themselves differently from the previous generation.  This desire is normal and may be expressed by their embracing the latest technological equipment, music, dress and/or other types of fashion.

The styles between generations is sufficiently far apart that our youth tend to stand out when they are with adults.  However, when competing to be different among their peers, they may be tempted to cross the boundary of is legally accepted.  They may express their desire to stand out among their peers by exceeding the speed limit, which is why their car insurance premiums are higher.

Some youth are attracted to marijuana for the simple reason that it is illegal.  However, if it is legalised, then they will likely find something else to differentiate themselves from the normal crowd.  In the US, where states legalised marijuana for recreational use, the youth turned to brain altering drugs, and deaths from overdosing on opioids increased significantly.

Legalising something harmful may seem like a good solution to reduce the costs of policing.  However, I do not think that the foreseen consequential damage to our youth is worth it.

Grenville Phillips II is a Chartered Structural Engineer and the founder of Solutions Barbados.  He can be reached at NextParty246@gmail.com

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73 responses to “The Grenville Phillips Column | Marijuana – to legalise or not?”

  1. Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service Avatar
    Well Well & Cut N’ Paste At Your Service

    Alcohol was legalized.., it is the most destructive recreational drug..and despiteb being the cause of the most deaths and destruction to family life it is still legal and marijuana does not cause death and is nowhere as harmful as alcohol….nor does it cause any of the alcohol related damages and diseases, liver disease, brain damage…. just to name same..

    BTW Grenville…that scam yall got going pumping up the views on SBs facebook page to fool bajans that 65,000 or more viewed ya page is not going to work, not even the trump scandal gets that many views and millions worldwide view every article related to trump….yall are scam artists…stop trying to bamboozle the electorate.

    Pumping up viewer numbers is distasteful, tacky and juvenile.

    Ah know what yall did and am watching.


  2. The legalization decriminalization of marijuana is sure to pander to the youth vote.


  3. Grenville, what you describe is not legalization.

  4. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    Mr Blogmaster, I presume you are the final arbiter of misleading data published by esssayist on your blog….

    I am an interested party to drug data and like others read and keep abreast of data points like marijuana and opiods. I am not an expert and am not attempting to be one here….BUT Phillips’ remark that “In the US, where states legalised marijuana for recreational use, the youth turned to brain altering drugs, and deaths from overdosing on opioids increased significantly” is GROSSLY misleading.

    Let one expert (fact checker from Snopes) contradict:

    “… The majority of drug overdose deaths (more than six out of ten) involve an opioid [….] 91 Americans die every day from an opioid overdose.

    “We now know that overdoses from prescription opioids are a driving factor in the 15-year increase in opioid overdose deaths […] Deaths from prescription opioids — drugs like oxycodone, hydrocodone, and methadone — have more than quadrupled since 1999.

    “While these drugs can be both addictive and deadly in their own right, numerous studies have demonstrated an association between non-medical (i.e. recreational) prescription drug use and illicit drug use such as heroin, which has similar chemical properties to opioids…

    “From 2002–2013, past month heroin use, past year heroin use, and heroin addiction have all increased among 18-25 year olds. The number of people who started to use heroin in the past year is also trending up. Among new heroin users, approximately three out of four report ABUSING PERSCRIPTION (my emohasis) opioids prior to using heroin.”

    Simply stated the conclusion the candidate made re weed legalization and youth trying to be further on the edge with stringer drugs is wrong. To add further expert commentary:

    “The cause of this epidemic is not controversial — researchers almost universally attribute it to legal prescriptions from medical doctors that are either used by a patient legally, or illicitly diverted from a doctor to another individual. ”

    The amusing thing is that this fact check was based on bombast from the president’s then press secretary Sean Spicer’ and was labelled as a ‘pernicious falsehood’ re the potential linkage between weed and opioids.

    I am sure Mr Phillips is not adopting such tendencies simply to generate publicity so I expect he would take the opportunity to update his misleading data because “the fact [is] that studies increasingly suggest that cannabis legalization results in a reduction of opioid overdoses”!


  5. Solutions Barbados (SB) is a little bit pregnant.

    If a plant is to be termed an ‘illegal substance’ because of its natural compounds then Grenville Phillips has a lot of ‘illegal substances’ in his cupboard/s.

    Things like toilet bowl cleaners, Clorox, vinegar, bathroom cleaners, many sprays and scores of products found on store shelves produce some similar effects.

    In addition there are mushrooms, of a certain type, growing wild all over the place, which are even more potent.

    Should we expect prohibitions on these as well.

    Generally, SB needs to decide whether they are pregnant or not. In any case, that decision has already been taken out of our hands by market forces.


  6. @ Grenville

    Nothing about the foreign exchange used to “import” marijuana, nothing about the potential economic benefits from government regulating and facilitating the industry. Nothing on the impact it can have on our most vital industry Tourism. Do you have an opinion on these matters?

    Do you know anyone who smokes marijuana that has moved on to cocaine or opiods. I DON’T.
    Marijuana is an all rounder (neither an upper or a downer), what you experience with it cannot be enhanced or improved by moving on to something stronger.

    It has been shown in repeated studies that marijuana is not a gateway drug. Lack of discipline and a weak family structure, boredom, a follower’s mentality and mental illness are some of the gateways.

    (The facebook instagram example is ridiculous. Look at the iphone both young and old love it.)

    We now have evidence that a government can successfully monetize marijuana (Colorado). What are your views on this? Is it applicable to Barbados

    Barbados has been left behind in many areas because we have both an inability and an aversion to thinking outside of the box. Your views lie perfectly withing the current box on marijuana, they do nothing to address the paradigm shift that is occurring before our very eyes.

    Kudos for at least addressing the many hours wasted in our courts for a few grams


  7. Meanwhile Country Barbados lurches from one day to the next because one stupid JA for a man thinks he can hold a country and its economy to ransom.In some far off day when reasonable heads prevailed it was thought that the constitution should include a clause that in the likelihood of an unforeseen but justified situation,there should be a grace period for recovery,government being a continuum.It was never meant to indicate an automatic extension of the 5 year mandate.If so,the next parliament should have a revisit of the Constitution so that the authority to extend is removed and only an emergency as declared by the GG would suffice.All the more reason why George Belle’s view that we are into a dictatorship is correct.This present fool is ruling by fiat,completely unfettered by a dissolved Parliament where the majority resided to unseat his ass,one time,as happened in ’94.


  8. @Dee Word

    This matter requires a liberal thinking and because of our conservative mindset we will be left behind. In many countries with a more progressive mindset the discussion has moved on to using marijuana/weed in public/workplace.


  9. Please also legislate to get rid of the useless office of the GG in the future no reason to keep it, it has shown itself to serve no purpose that benefits the citizens and is not worth keeping past 2020…it is a burden.


  10. Hard to engage in the discussion when one person dominates each and every issue / article presented .
    It is high time the administrator realize and come to an understanding that one person over usage of an issue is an exhaustive exercise in futility and more so takes away from the quality of any given issue or article and the opinion of what others have presented


  11. Mariposa April 18, 2018 11:40 AM

    Bad chairmanship.


  12. When will yardfowls learn, I will make it my personal business to destroy any hopes yall have of becoming active yardfowls in parliament after this election..all yall will be able to do is cackle on BU, it will be a pleasure listening to you.


  13. Hal Austin and Mariposa can haul allyuh donkeys.Well Well makes some telling points 98% of the time.After rawl, who among we perfect.I’m sure WW would say 99.9%.


  14. Gabriel…dont mind ac yardfowl MariSopa…she does that when she wants to plagiarize something I posted, but I got a surprise waiting for her…June soon come.

  15. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    “In the US, where states legalised marijuana for recreational use, the youth turned to brain altering drugs, and deaths from overdosing on opioids increased significantly.”

    What a load of horseshit. Pot is legalized in a few states. The opioid problem exists in all, and a majority of the victims and users are NOT youth. In Canada, opioid deaths have quadrupled and pot is currently legal in NO province.

    Yes, youth will always try to differentiate themselves from their parents. Yet, suggesting you would not decriminalize pot, because youth would simply turn to something which is illegal, is weak. Today I find more pot being smoked at social functions of my generation, than at those consisting primarily of millennials.


  16. That might be a much safer topic for Grenville, buggery laws… because he obviously does no research on the topics he pops up. with…before convincing us of his madness..

    .I have had a battle for the last 8 years trying to stay off opioids for pain, because the addiction V pain is not worth the trauma….prefer deal with the pain or use medical marijuana.


  17. please hurry up and legalize marijuana …i have a bet with a friend that the custom agents can go slower.


  18. Talk is becoming increasingly cheap the closer we get to elections in Barbados. Since NOTHING has been done to move the county forward by this government since 2016, let’s look at the look at the recreational users (about 80% of the population) and ask them if the country should legalize marijuana. Honestly, Barbados needs a strong leader to make these hard decisions because no one can deny the truth, which is that drug dealers make more more money than M.P.s make in a month!


  19. Well Well cut and paste. Your longwinded diatribe is significantly contributing to flight of those who used to frequent this blog
    Just look around and see the many who has taken an exit some of whose contributions added value when compared to the few repeats who seem mostly to be engaging out of boredom or having political axes to grind.


  20. Didn’t 60 minutes do an exposé that revealed that the opioid epidemic in the US was partly fueled by billion dollar pharmaceutical firms aided and abetted by Gov’t which flooded small towns with drugs on a continuous basis? The white collar criminals leading these firms are immune from prosecution but the US taxpayer has to foot the bill for rehabilitation (where services exist)

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/whistleblowers-dea-attorneys-went-easy-on-mckesson-the-countrys-largest-drug-distributor/


  21. Grenville is worried about legalization in a few US States, what happens when marijuana is legalized in a whole country? Canada is on track to legalise it come Canada Day 2018, In addition to fireworks, barbecues and beer Canadians will be able to celebrate the country’s 151st birthday with a toke (on private property and residential homes). In Ontario we will be able to grow up to four plants for personal use. I suspect that the Canadian visitors coming in Winter will have their own supply- depriving the local entrepreneurs of some sales.

    That smoky haze on the Air Canada flight is not from the aerosol spray that is dumped on passengers as the plane enters Barbados airspace.

    https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/pot-policies-everything-you-need-to-know-about-marijuana-legalization-1.3733749

  22. Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service Avatar
    Well Well & Cut N’ Paste At Your Service

    Gosh what a pity Canada keeps getting colder and colder, I could drink marijuana tea all day…were the winters not so bad for my issues.

    ac yardfowl mariSopa…the window of opportunity for you to steal and plagarize any of my posts have passed, stop whining,..

    …barbadpstoday got rid of you from haunting their blog with ya political yardfowl nonsense which added no value, so now ya return to ya vomit…haunting BU…no one missed ya….ya think we did not notice ya sticks and stones diatribe which pissed other commenters off and had them throwing stones at ya…..because it made absolutely no sense…none of it.


  23. The upside of legalizing marijuana in canada it will keep some politicians mothers off the road .

  24. Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service Avatar
    Well Well & Cut N’ Paste At Your Service

    Lawson…ya just jealous of my boyfriend.

    Instead of posting a bunch of unresearched rubbish most of the time Grenville would do well to follow the lead of those leaders more intelligent and sane than himself.

    “Cannabis is set to be legalised in Antigua and Barbuda, as Prime Minister says ‘racist’ laws that banned it damaged the Rastafarian community

    PM Gaston Browne said cannabis will be legalised for medicinal and other uses

    He apologised to Rastafarians for ‘demonisation’ inflicted upon them

    He said the move was part of reparations for the wrongs inflicted on Rastafarians
    The PM said cannabis use was now socially acceptable and part of the culture
    By ALASTAIR TANCRED FOR MAILONLINE

    PUBLISHED: 21:35 BST, 17 April 2018 | UPDATED: 22:35 BST, 17 April 2018

    View comments
    Antigua and Barbuda will allow the use of medical cannabis, Prime Minister Gaston Browne has announced, in addition to decriminalising the possession of small amounts of the drug

    In explaining the move Mr Browne said that that the prohibition of cannabis was not prompted by the health or well-being of users, but to serve the ‘racist, political and economic interests of the global powers at that time’.

    The Prime Minister said his government’s plans to legalise cannabis for medicinal and ‘other’ uses.”


  25. Is there the empirical data to support how legalizing these substances impact society.


  26. WW what crap that is like apologizing to Jehovah witnesses after the aids or hep c crisis, this is all about the money nothing else, remember when they thought thalidomide or bringing weasels to barbados was a good thing.


  27. @Dee Word et al

    Any feedback on the Delaware project? That has been going for awhile?


  28. The other Caribbean countries that decriminalised marijuana for personal use in small quantities are: Jamaica, Puerto Rico, Belize and the US Virgin Islands.

    Ironically, other than Jamaica, SVG has been described as “the most prolific producer of marijuana in the Caribbean.” However, SVG’s government ruled out the possibility of legalizing the drug for recreational use, but is considering its legalization for medicinal purposes.

    During his budget presentation on Monday, February 12, 2018, Finance Minister Camillo Gonsalves said: “Unregulated consumption of recreational marijuana poses a number of risks and challenges that we do not currently have the data on which to make informed decisions, or the capacity to manage effectively.”

    He added that the Vincentian society still has a “divergence of views” about the recreational use of cannabis, but the government was willing because of the growth of medical marijuana industry internationally to international cease the opportunity and leverage available local expertise.


  29. @Artax

    What does the science say or will decisions be driven by emotion.


  30. The Bush Doctor
    Peter McIntosh


  31. VOB news just advised that the Cannabis Association of Barbados will be holding town halls on the benefits.

  32. Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service Avatar
    Well Well & Cut N’ Paste At Your Service

    No different to how ending the prohibition of alcohol affected the world…but this time it will be with less deadly side effects and more beneficial healthwise….a win win for everyone…including and particularly for the racist metropolitan countries that demonized the plant to benefit themselves financially and criminalized black people for using it, in the first place.

  33. Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service Avatar
    Well Well & Cut N’ Paste At Your Service

    Gonzalves is lying…more than enough scientific data on the benefits which outweigh any health risk for marijuana users is available on any science forum, he is not a scientist.

  34. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @ Mr Blogmaster, I have not followed Delaware’s legalization of marijuana use (possession of small quantities] closely but generally across the US the introduction of legal possession and use of weed for medicinal purposes and in those states which allow recreational use (in private primarily)there have been generally no egregious or bad social results linked to the use if the drug.

    The sceince behind the drug usage is actually quite extensive as this has been studied for eons now. Of course since late ’90s US states started ‘experimenting’ with allowing greater weed usage.

    Simply stated the biological (scientific) issues of using a substance that has proven chemical properties that can act as a depressant while also exciting conditions associated with the chemical properties of a hallucinogen will be significant.

    Whether weed is a greater source of societal issues than alcohol and other dangerous substances is the endless debate.


  35. David BU

    I believe decisions will be made based on emotion……and not science.

    I note with interest what MoF Gonslaves said about his administration currently not having data, to make informed decisions…………as it relates to the number of risks and challenges posed by the unregulated consumption of recreational marijuana………hence, his administration’s reluctance to legalize the drug.

    However, Antigua and Barbuda prime minister, Gaston Browne, announced the passage of the Misuse of Drugs (Amendment) Act, 2018, which states “a person who is in possession of a maximum of 15 grams of the drug Cannabis or Cannabis resin is not guilty of an offence.”

    It also makes it “lawful” to cultivate up to four cannabis plants per household and expunges marijuana convictions involving a quantity of 15 grams or less and that Tourist establishments are allowed to set aside “open areas” where guests can smoke cannabis.

    ………but the Act does not remove legal penalties for the sale of the drug.

    Browne also issued a “genuine” apology to the Rastafarian Community, because prohibition and demonization of cannabis “have led to Rastafari being brutalized and castigated by Police and other Government authorities, because of the utilization of the plant Cannabis Sativa.”

    “We have asserted that Rastafari sacramental or spiritual use be acknowledged, and that Rastafari be given a stake in production and benefits to be derived from the medicinal and other uses going forward.”

    “Let us regard this as reparations for Rastafari, for the wrongs inflicted on this significant minority group in our countries, through the so called “war on drugs” which evidently was prompted by pernicious prohibition.”

    Introducing Rastafari in the marijuana argument is clearly done for “emotional reasons.”


  36. We must first DIFFERENTIATE (or recognize the differences between) using herb for MEDICINAL purposes and RECREATIONAL purposes

    The fact that SVG’s government decided to legalize herb for medicinal use is a clear indication that they availed themselves of the relevant scientific data to make that decision.

    However, Gonsalves said his administration does not have any data pertaining to effects of using herb for RECREATIONAL purposes for them to make informed decisions relative to legalizing it specifically for that reason.


  37. ********However, Gonsalves said his administration does not have any data pertaining to effects of the UNREGULATED use of herb for RECREATIONAL purposes for them to make informed decisions relative to legalizing it specifically for that reason.


  38. Thanks Artax, good intervention here.


  39. This is the actual Canadian legislation.

    http://www.parl.ca/DocumentViewer/en/42-1/bill/C-45/third-reading


  40. These studies on the health benefits to marijuana USERS are available from the Business Insider, are ongoing and are worth following..for when they expand the field of participants.

    “In August, a study published in the journal Neuropsychopharmacology suggested that pot smokers could have a greatly reduced risk of stroke. Researchers from the University of Texas at Dallas found chronic cannabis users have higher blood flow to the brain and extract more oxygen from cerebral blood flow than nonusers. THC is known to relax blood vessels.

    These changes effectively reduce the risk of stroke and blood clots.

    The study should be taken with a grain of salt, however, as it included fewer than 200 participants.”


  41. Apparently this is how citizens of St. Vincent feel, that will always be the problem in the Caribbean, excluding the very same people who should be included and who should be at at the front benefitting from any policies related to marijuana, if only for the decades old fact that they were the ones being imprisoned for possession and not those in the society who believe themselves higher up and better off…and were never arrested.

    “Yesterday at 12:33pm ·
    BOOMRADIO was alight yesterday when Ras John, a right hand man of the dictator Gonsalves tore them apart on their medicinal marijuana policy of excluding poor Vincentians.

    POOR PEOPLE MUST NEVER GET RICH…. is the policy of the ULP and their Goons.”


  42. @ David Bu

    I hope you observed that, with the introduction of poor people being deprived of benefits to be derived from the sale of herb…….is a clear indication this discussion is going forward based on emotion and not rational thinking.

    Gonsalves mentioned “unregulated” use of marijuana within the context of recreational use.

    I grew up in the ghetto and have witnessed many of my age mates, youngsters and oldsters smoke weed “morning, noon and night,” not for medicinal purposes, but for recreation. In other words, they abuse weed….. and it has affected their health, relationships with others (they often became aggressive after smoking spliffs on a continuous basis), and even their work.

    Abusing any substance would have grave repercussions for the user, whether that substance is medication, natural herbs, rice, bread, milk or alcohol.

    Medication is administered to sick individuals for a specific period of time. For example, people suffering from hypertension are encouraged to take “life time medication.” But prolonged usage affects the kidneys.

    Moringa seeds, for example, provide a number of health benefits and are an excellent source of many nutrients such as vitamins, mineral dietary fibers (that acts as a natural laxative, improves bowel movement and thus ensures smooth elimination of waste from our system), phytonutrients and antioxidants.

    However, the unregulated consumption of too many Moringa seeds may give rise to problems like abdominal cramping, diarrhea, malabsorption, constipation, intestinal gas, and intestinal blockage.

    Marijuana is “no exception.”


  43. @THE GRENVILLE PHILLIPS COLUMN | MARIJUANA – TO LEGALISE OR NOT?

    NOT.

    We already got too many people foolishing-up their heads with marijuana.

    And recreation what.

    Our youngsters need and want work.

    Not recreation.


  44. @Artax April 19, 2018 4:15 PM “I grew up in the ghetto and have witnessed many of my age mates, youngsters and oldsters smoke weed “morning, noon and night,” not for medicinal purposes, but for recreation. In other words, they abuse weed….. and it has affected their health, relationships with others (they often became aggressive after smoking spliffs on a continuous basis), and even their work.”

    Something that people too often forget to take into consideration.

    Marujuana/lighters/toddlers/caregivers high, sleepy, inattentive on marijuana/toddlers playing with the lighters/house fires/another poor family with nowhere to live/another burden on the taxpayers.


  45. Just like with food, water, alcohol, medicines, snacks, sodas and everything else, nothing should be abused, abuse comes with dire consequences.

    alcohol, cigarettes etc are legal and not everyone uses or abuses them, they know better due to all the educational material out there…same with marijuana, everything should be enjoyed in very small doses…education is the key.


  46. Which is a very strong indication that EVERYTHING has addictive properties and should be used in moderation.

    two days ago my daughter bought a particular brand of Breyers ice cream, a brand I never tasted before, but it is a struggle to keep my mind of that brand two day later, and I have had my fill of all the best kinds HaagenDaz, Dove, you name it I have eaten it, but this particular brand is obviously very addictive.

    Same with Kahlua coffee liqueur, or Amaruhla or Baileys, or……


  47. Dear All:

    Following an intervention from Anton Shepherd on another site where this was posted, I was unable to find the statistic to support the phrase “and deaths from overdosing on opioids increased significantly” which was included at the end of the second last paragraph. I must therefore accept the contrary evidence he supplied.

    Best regards,
    Grenville


  48. Condolences to Douglas Trotman on the passing of his wife, who was waiting from 2015 for permission to use medical marijuana from those in power who had the means to alleviate her suffering, alas from what I understand she only recently got permission to be able to access medical marijuana, three years too late.

    According to Nationnews article and the names called…..it seems all those who had the power to help ease her pain, were a huge presence at her funeral yesterday.

    The FDA has recently approved medical marijuana in the treatment of epilepsy, that is just the beginning.

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