The Jeff Cumberatch Column – Emergency Powers and Good Governance

Jeff Cumberbatch – Chairman of the FTC and Deputy Dean, Law Faculty, UWI, Cave Hill

‘Emergencies’ have always been the pretext on which the safeguards of individual liberty have been eroded. Friedrich August von Hayek

It seems unlikely that I should be personally affected by the operation of the proposed legislation. After all, I am essentially a homebody and scarcely to be found on the road at “ungodly” hours so as to be inconvenienced by a traditional curfew and it is at least doubtful that my neighbourhood would be subject to any police cordon as a designated area as is provided for in the Act. Yet, as a fairly liberal thinker so far as human rights are concerned, there are more things than a few that trouble me about the provisions of the proposed Police (Amendment) Act 2017. Too besides, I am a fan of Martin Niemöller’s celebrated poem. You know; “First they came for the socialists…”

Permit me to concede from the outset that the use of emergency powers by the modern state is and has been since time immemorial a widely accepted aspect of constitutional governance. In a brilliant article titled The Law of the exception: A typology of emergency powers published in 2004, Professors Frerejohn and Pasquino of New York University argue:

When the public safety is seriously threatened, there may be a need for quick and decisive action that cannot perhaps, wait for the deliberate pace of ordinary constitutional rule…

They posit further that this is a central dilemma of a liberal constitutional government in that the rights and protections it provides and preserves can prevent the government from responding efficiently and energetically to enemies that would destroy those rights and perhaps even the constitutional order itself. Indeed, as they note, this has been the case since Roman times, for in cases of emergency the Roman Senate could direct the consuls to appoint a dictator for a temporary period of up to six months. This dictator was authorized to suspend rights and legal processes and to marshal military and other forces in order to deal with the threat of insurrection or invasion.

Further, the mutual trust and confidence that ought to subsist between the citizen and the State should entail, whenever a substantial limitation of rights is proposed by the State, as full a briefing to the citizenry, as may be practicable without compromising state security, should be provided before the institution of such a regime.

Section 25 of our Constitution reflects this thesis to some extent though, of course, unlike the ancient Romans, the concept of a dictator is antithetical to our ethos of constitutional governance. The section provides for the circumstances when a state of emergency is deemed to exist; namely, when Barbados is engaged in warfare or where there is a proclamation by the Governor General, subject to certain stipulated conditions, that a state of public emergency exists or where there is in force a resolution of each House supported by the votes of not less than two-thirds of all the members of that House declaring that the democratic institutions in Barbados are threatened by subversion.

Moreover, where the state of emergency exists as a result of a gubernatorial proclamation, as in Roman times, there is a six month period to which this may be limited though it is subject to extension from time to time for further periods of six months by resolution of a majority of all the members of the House of Assembly.

It seems clear then that our system contemplates the legitimate erosion by the Executive, with Parliamentary approval, of certain fundamental rights in times of national emergency. The actuality is, however, that in our system, there is no concrete separation of power between the executive and the Parliament. It might be for this reason therefore, that the relevant section requires not merely an ordinary, but a special majority in both Houses for the effectiveness of any parliamentary resolution that democratic institutions in Barbados are threatened by subversion.

There is little doubt that the proposed legislation, even though not titled emergency powers legislation, approximates to this by enlarging the police power, with a concomitant loss of liberty on the part of an affected citizen. For instance, clause 19A (2) provides as follows:

The Commissioner may, with the written approval of the Minister impose either a curfew for a period not exceeding 2 days, or a special investigation period in a designated area in Barbados, in order to preserve and promote peace, public order or public safety and investigate where

(a) an incident of serious violence has occurred in any (sic) area in Barbados; or

(b) (b) an incident of serious violence may occur in any area in Barbados”

During this period of curfew, police powers are significantly enhanced. A member of the police force, under the supervision of an officer of the rank of Inspector or above, will be able to, inter alia, between 5 am and 8 pm (scarcely ungodly), search any premises in the designated area without warrant where that member of the force (the constable and not necessarily the supervising officer) has a reasonable suspicion that an offence has been committed, is being committed or is about to be committed on the premises; to stop and search any person walking or sitting in the designated area where that member of the Force has a reasonable suspicion that an offence has been committed, is being committed or about to be committed; and to search any item or anything being carried or held by that person for an offensive weapon, any illegal drugs or stolen property and to stop and search any vehicle in or any vehicle entering or exiting the designated area, its driver or passenger for an offensive weapon, an illegal drug or stolen property where that member of the force has a reasonable suspicion that an offence has been committed, is being committed or about to be committed.

It is to be noted that the threshold of “reasonable suspicion” is perhaps the lowest form of justification for police action. It has been determined that it may arise from information that is different in quantity or content from and less reliable than that required to establish probable cause, a more favourable threshold to the accused. Furthermore, the existence of “reasonable suspicion” is to be determined after the impugned event and not at the time of or prior to the police action.

It seems clear that the local authorities are contemplating a period of substantial social disruption. Existence of the mutual trust that I referred to earlier would ordinarily require that the populace be taken into the confidence of the authorities, unless this may lead to a compromise of the strategic initiatives necessary to combat this imminent threat to the social order.

In the absence of such information, people are liable to ascribe all sorts of nefarious motives to the government on the enactment of the proposed legislation and worse, to become increasingly fearful of the impact on them and their families of whatever might ensue from the anticipated insurrection. Silence is clearly not golden here. There is a clamant need for conversation.

190 comments

  • and that is why black people everywhere MUST close ranks to protect themselves and each other, particularly from abusive black governments..

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    Family works!!

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  • Well well

    Why you don’t go and rest your weary soul

    Are you and Akanni McDowell going to appoint these Public Officers ?

    After wunnah telling them fuh years to stop wuk and march against the government ?

    I tell wunnah already the majority of the Public Officers smarter than you all think !

    Mia Mottley and Delisle Worrell plan to send home 10,000 Public Officers if the BLP gain office in 2018

    Public Officers deserves better

    Dems Now……Dems Forever

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  • CANADA:

    The Emergencies Act differs from the War Measures Act in two important ways:

    A declaration of an emergency by the Cabinet must be reviewed by Parliament.

    Any temporary laws made under the Act are subject to the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

    Thus any attempt by the government to suspend the civil rights of Canadians, even in an emergency, will be subject to the “reasonable and justified” test under section 1 of the Charter.[1]

    BARBADOS:……Build barricade and lock down chosen neighborhoods!!!

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  • DEMS NOW…..DEMS TILL ELECTION DAY…..

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  • Well Well @ Cut and Paste @ Your Service

    they wont need to do that, they just have to reach out to Amnesty International, peaceful resistance….reach out to all human rights groups worldwide , put the island in the spotlight, make the human rights violators in parliament famous worldwide, which makes it much easier to lock them up later.

    dont even entertain the idea of suffering mentally and in silence like Vincentians.

    i remember when Gonzales brought the computer Act to permanently silence Vincentians, he actually thought that was gonna work, well just look at him now..aint it.

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  • millertheanunnaki

    @ John February 5, 2018 at 9:46 AM #
    “… and if we accept that family controlled most people in Barbados prior to the 1960’s then it follows it was alive and working for centuries.
    All we need to understand is how and why it was destroyed!!”

    Glad you raise this Bajan family issue.

    Are you referring to the “White” family ties or the black family bonds of slavery and shackles of serfdom aka plantation apprenticeship?

    Why would the maintenance of the family would be in the interest of the slave owners whose goal was to break all cultural ties of the imported and locally grown black slaves as a basic method of mental and physical control?
    The black family was destroyed when the members were stripped of their West African identities and the males turned into ‘studding’ machines to produce more indigenous black hands for the sugar cane fields and mills; an early example of import substitution.

    All the “family names” which you mentioned from My Lord’s Hill are all adopted from the same ‘white’ families who- in the name of their Lord- stole the land from the Amerindians just like the white (European) families did to the Native Americans.

    Almost all black family names have been ‘adopted’ from their former slave masters/owners who were the descendants of English, Welsh, Scottish and Irish ‘transported immigrants’ (with a few Jewish names from the Iberian Peninsula deliberately ’Anglicized’ for climbing the slave trading commercial ladder).

    Now why does the name “Hall” have such a prominence on the Bajan landscape not only as the place name of former ‘spacious’ bagatelles but also as the handle of many a black person whose ancestors were the property of those Halls of service and servitude.

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  • Well Well @ Cut and Paste @ Your Service

    Fractured…you dont get tired yelling my moniker, like i keep telling others on here, find yaself a girlfriend or a wife then ya can call after them all day.

    human rights abuses are a blight and curse on any country, a blight and curse on earth….has been for centuries…..it has to be destroyed in Barbados, even before it begins…before it spreads like a cancer and becomes malignant.

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  • millertheanunnaki

    @ Fractured BLP February 5, 2018 at 10:40 AM #

    Weren’t the public sector workers given similar assurances prior to the 2013 elections that not one worker would be sent home?

    And what happened a few months after being tricked?

    ‘Fool them once shame on you, fool them twice shame on the fools’.

    Lord King Fumble might appoint them before he rings the bell to buy votes but the IMF, in a few months, would surely disappoint.

    Take a page out of the book of lies and broken promises just like the old lady on the bus. What is the sense of having a free bus pass when there are no buses to catch?

    But we have to give Lord Fumble his royal jacket. He really knows his subjects. Just a court of black stooges, clowns and fools who can be easily bought for a promise as their comfort.

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  • All the “family names” which you mentioned from My Lord’s Hill are all adopted from the same ‘white’ families

    Now why does the name “Hall” have such a prominence on the Bajan landscape

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    Hall was an early family name too!!!

    For example, Giles and Maudlin Hall had wills dated 1686 and 1700, husband and wife. From St. Peter.

    There is a Hugh Hall whose will is dated 1698 and he was from St. Michael. He asked to be buried in the manner of the Quakers.

    There is also a John Hall from St. James whose will is dated 1681.

    Arthur Hall from St. Michael wrote a will in 1668.

    Elizabeth Hall St. Andrew, 1716

    Thomas Hall St. Thomas 1704

    I think the choice (there that word is again) of a surname is a mark of respect particular slaves had for particular families …. Quakers …. associated with them or their ancestors.

    Sometimes those family names were the same as their owners or former owners, but not always.

    I always come across surnames that disappeared before slavery ended and yet they are surnames adopted by slaves and former slaves.

    It is possible Hall also referred to a house, …. perhaps a “Meeting House” or a congregation of people!!

    So Hall as a place name, eg Arch Hall, Rock Hall etc., could denote locations where Quakers and their slaves who chose to listen, congregated for religious meetings.

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  • How many Rock Hall’s can you count in Barbados?

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  • Professor Woodville Marshall’s book on the place names of Barbados has three parishes where there are no “Rock Halls” … St. Michael, St. George and St. Joseph.

    Like ROCK, HOPE is present is all parishes.

    HOPE and ROCK …. duuuuuh!!

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  • Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service

    I hope these officers are not also being blackmailed by government for their votes in order for the vacancies to be filled…,a clear violation of their rights.

    “caswell-franklin-sunday-2015
    Caswell Franklyn (FILE)

    Trouble appears to be brewing at the Customs Department once again. This time it’s over the interview process for the 100 vacant positions in the department as efforts to transition to the Barbados Revenue Authority (BRA) continue.

    General secretary of the Unity Workers’ Union (UWU), Caswell Franklyn, is so incensed over the issue that he plans to write Governor General Dame Sandra Mason asking her to investigate the matter.

    “I am going to write the Governor General to point out that the system is [flawed] and that she needs to investigate. I am writing the Governor General hoping that she would follow the rules and do the right thing,” he told the DAILY NATION yesterday.

    And if that did not work, Franklyn declared he was willing to “shut the place down”.

    Franklyn, whose UWU represents 72 of the approximately 200 workers in the department, alleged there was some “handpicking” in the interview process. “

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  • How many Gospel Halls and Mission Halls are there in Barbados?

    It isn’t by accident that we now face draconian measures to control the population!!

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  • millertheanunnaki

    @ John February 5, 2018 at 11:37 AM

    John, why don’t you change your simple moniker to the Bajan half-breed “Scarlet Pimpernel”?

    You are good enough to make Houdini look like a boy scout.

    You would have made a great WW1 front-line soldier in dodging bullets and even able to out-manoeuvre the flying Red Baron in avoiding the enemy’s barrage of ground artillery.

    What we want to hear from you is when did the black families start to put down roots in Barbados.

    Were the black studs married to the massa-discarded bed wenches in your Quaker meeting rooms (Halls) in the sight of your white god with their mulatto picaninnies as the bridesmaids and page boys?

    What’s the name of that ‘bushy’ white wife of the Governor of the Island who undertook a mass marriage campaign to put an end to fornication among the blacks living in Christian sin by predating Sun Myung Moon by her charitable acts of spreading black family values West African style, polygamy including?

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  • Well well

    You better behave yourself and stop pompasetting on BU

    You well know ( no pun intended) that waiting pon on of those appointment letters – after Mia & Akanni trick you into marching for unreasonable salary increases.

    Dumb boy !

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  • you waiting pon one of those appointment letters

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  • Jefferson Cumberbatch

    Here is an assignment for a future article:
    “Contemplating a successful future for Barbados – the good news”

    @ Bushie, You’re on!

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  • This is laughable. Imagine we talking about names that have already been branded nothing but slave names that should have been discarded years ago. We don’t need those ; we can call ourselves anything now. I submit that all the names mentioned , should be changed to the more widely accepted monikers used on BU.

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  • Good suggested topic Jeff

    For Bushie to do justice to it – he would need sometime to interview his Brass bowl friends !!!

    The ones of the Artax & Miller , variety !!

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  • I am sure the people would prefer their tax refunds!

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  • Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service

    Fractured…ah know yall unsettled now though, as usual, through your own arrogant, ill informed, unintelligent actions that got ya staring down IMF and a belching, leaking neglected sewage system….that is about to explode.

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  • Sir William Skinner is quite right

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  • Talking Loud Saying Nothing

    @ Hal,

    “There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about.”

    ― Oscar Wilde, The Picture of Dorian Gray

    LOL

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  • Talking Loud Saying Nothing February 5, 2018 at 4:24 PM #

    I have broad shoulders. Nothing better than giving a lot of pensioners something to moan about as they sit in the great ante-chamber waiting for the final call and pondering a life lived.

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  • millertheanunnaki

    @ Fractured BLP February 5, 2018 at 1:55 PM

    FBLP, (Foolish Bith Lying Pip), why don’t you advise your slumbering beleaguered giant primate inter parris the pariah that now he is on a futile winning streak of promises and performances why not seal the reelection deal by promising the delivery before March 31st of all those already stuffed envelopes containing tax payers refunds from 2013 to 2016.

    The same way the CLICO policyholders and the NHC tenants are smiling all the way to the imaginary bank of long overdue backlog of promises- which will not materialize under the imminent IMF programme- so too would the disappointed taxpayers.

    Come on man, stop looking a gift horse in the mouth and make your promise to the taxpayers due for refunds.

    They would love it the same way public sector workers are glad for the appointments (soon to be transformed into disappointments) instead of a salary increase.

    Isn’t that the kind of electoral spring oats you should be sowing in the wintry days of your dying administration?

    Come on man, Dr. Deliar Worrell might be wo(e)man cu*t but he is not an academic fool. He knows his economic onions and can tell you beyond a shadow of doubt what the IMF has in store for the Bajan public sector.

    If a real ‘fighting’ army of defence can be cut back in times of fiscal austerity why not one of occupation and low productivity like the Bajan public sector?

    So what will it be? The disbanding of the ceremonial Defence Force or the cutting back of the local army of leeches and fiscal parasitism?

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  • What we want to hear from you is when did the black families start to put down roots in Barbados.

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    From the time individuals were given freedom in the 1600’s.

    Look at families like Overton, Cuffley, Sargeant and Kennedy.

    You will find some of their marriage and baptismal records in the parochial registers.

    Overton started in the 1600.s, Cuffley is 1721, Sargeant and Kennedy I will check but either 1600’s or 1700’s.

    I think you may find King Dial’s ancestors also were freed well before emancipation.

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  • ….. that is assuming you want to look at family records which appear in the Church Registers.

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  • http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20180205/news/police-recruit-hopeful-charged-with-uttering-fake-csec-certificate

    Prodigirl

    When one read the story above , we can only hope that MAM has a ” LEGIT ” …….LEC !!

    Because the police 👮🏽 powers in Barbados 🇧🇧 have been widened now !!!

    Pampalam fuh …….MAM !!!

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  • You are good enough to make Houdini look like a boy scout.

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    I can only do what I do because I have a theory which has so far shown itself to be right!!

    So it fits most if not all scenarios that arise.

    BTW, Houdini had a close run in with the Boy Scouts so doubt if he would ever have wanted to be one!!

    http://www.wildabouthoudini.com/2012/03/houdinis-close-call.html

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  • This fellow liesalot really has no shame.BU concerned about parliamentary abuse of freedoms and this donkeyman writing meaningless mumbojumbo of an era we want to forget like a bad dream that is mainly the vexatious cause of persistent poverty of the negroid group.Reparations long overdue not more brutal laws aimed at innocent citizens.Gaulblineyuh man!

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  • The Maldives government has declared a state of emergency for 15 days amid a political crisis in the island nation.

    Can this happen in Barbados?

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  • I am simply showing why things have changed in Barbados and why GOB finds itself in the position it does!!

    That’s how problems get solved, by understanding their root causes.

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  • millertheanunnaki

    @John February 5, 2018 at 5:22 PM #
    “From the time individuals were given freedom in the 1600’s.
    Look at families like Overton, Cuffley, Sargeant and Kennedy.”

    In the 1600’s??? That’s a bit early to have been brainwashed of their West African heritage and to readily adopt the ‘family’ names of their white masters!

    Next time you, John Liesalot, will be telling us that those ‘black families’ (Overton, Cuffley, Sargeant and Kennedy) were given their freedom papers by their dear loving Christian Quaker masters and baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus with new English and Irish names to boot.

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  • Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service

    Fractured Fraud….look…..no one wants to hear anymore lying excuses….from your outgoing government.

    “Basseterre, St. Kitts, February 01, 2018 (SKNIS): “Preliminary estimates for 2018 indicate that St. Kitts and Nevis’ economy will once again expand for the third consecutive year”, said Prime Minister and Minister of Finance, Dr. the Honourable Timothy Harris.

    Prime Minister Harris was at the time addressing an audience during a press conference on Thursday, February 01, where he noted that for 2018 the economy is predicted to grow by about 3.7 percent.”

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  • Next time you, John Liesalot, will be telling us that those ‘black families’ (Overton, Cuffley, Sargeant and Kennedy) were given their freedom papers by their dear loving Christian Quaker masters and baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus with new English and Irish names to boot.

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    Example: Thomas Cuffley’s will in 1721, RB6/6/426 !!!

    Freedom to negro man Jeffrey Cuffley and 4.5 acres in St. Philip

    Freedom to negro woman, Jenney, mother of Jeffrey Cuffley

    Freedom to negro man John Cuffley

    Freedom to negro man Roger Cuffley and 2 acres in St. Philip and if he dies without heirs land to go to Negro Jenney

    Freedom to negro woman Elizabeth Cuffley and 2 acres in St. Philip

    If she dies without heirs, land goes to my negroes, John and Tobias Cuffley.

    Negro girl Bony is to serve Jeffrey Cuffley (free negro) the rest of his life, then freedom.

    Negro boy Tobias Cuffley to serve Jeffrey Cuffley (free negro) for 1 year then freedom.

    I don’t have to say a thing, the legal document (will), says it all!!

    All I have to do is read, learn and inwardly digest!!

    This is how simple and straightforward it is!!

    The problem you have is that all this data is easily available either in book form or on CD … and I have had the CD version from 1994 so it is easy to rebut you …. simplicity itself!!

    Find some better questions to ask, you are being destroyed by simple existing facts, easily corroborated!!

    The facts speak for themselves.

    I reckon I come from one of these free negroes through my grandfather.

    His grandmother was a Cuffley, colored or black, can’t tell.

    So, I reckon I am a part of this Cuffley family which had its beginnings in 1721, more than a century before emancipation …. compliments of a Quaker, Thomas Cuffley!!

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  • Theophilius Gazerts 263

    I guess Bony spent her life wishing for Jeffrey to die…

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  • Now that the corrupt politicians and their financial elites are aware that their wicked schemes and underhand methods are public knowledge,having destroyed the majority of a once thriving middle class by iniquitious taxes and levies,they resort to draconian laws to attempt to isolate and protect themselves from being held accountable for their unlawful deeds.

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  • Theophilius Gazerts 263 February 5, 2018 at 7:45 PM #
    I guess Bony spent her life wishing for Jeffrey to die…

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    Maybe not.

    Jeffrey was under no obligation to leave her his land so she would have had to fend for herself as a free girl or woman.

    My guess is she was young, perhaps orphaned, and Thomas Cuffley wanted to make sure she was cared for by Jeffrey at least until he died.

    Guess it depends on her age.

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  • … that’s the problem with freedom, it brings responsibilities that did not exist when a slave.

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  • Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service

    John Liesalot…you are such a lowlife.

    Are you not enjoying your freedom?

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  • …. but then … I was never a slave!!

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  • Many people I know are slaves.

    Most can’t see beyond their noses nor can they think critically for themselves.

    So they live life happily as slaves to ignorance.

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  • Even slaves are happy!!

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  • Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service

    You CANNOT clean up that one John Liesalot…you vomited last night what every parasitic scumbag halfassed minority racist on the island think and say about the majority Bkack population on the island……. the only Black slaves left in the west are the token ones like GP et al inexplicably mentally tied to racists like yourself….that is their own personally created enslavement.

    The last 2 generations of Blacks in the Caribbean do not know what it is to be physical slaves, but given the last 2 generations of racism practiced against them by you racist parasites living off them and their children’s backs, particularly in Barbados, I am sure they can appreciate, the intelligent ones anyway, that their once enslaved ancestors had a much more healthier appreciation than you could ever understand for their freedom from being slaves…..since you can boast that you and your ilk were never slaves….so how would you know how they felt being slaves and longing to be free.

    And since you so eloquently, efficiently and arrogantly compounded my suggestion that the majority black population not only have to close ranks against corrupt, abusive governments, but also definitely against you few thousand parasitic racists on the island who have been living off the Black population’s existence for over 50 years…..I can now rest my case.

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  • David Commissiong is on Brasstacks speaking with Sanka.Sanka wanted to know when Parliament is dissolved how would emergency measures be introduced.I am not surprised at that question.

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  • @John February 5, 2018 at 9:36 AM “Our foreparents were enslaved…As I have said before, thank God for that because had it not happened.”

    I cannot thank God for slavery, in any event my God is not the same as your god. I am not so brutal as to make light of the enslavement of millions of people, to make light of families who were forcibly separated, to make light of people whose children disappeared and were never seen again, to make light of people who lost their language and their religion.

    I thank my God that my greed for other people’s labour, and other people’s bodies has not so brutalized me that I cannot see Trans Atlantic as the brutal capitalist system that it was, a system built on the profits from other people’s labour and other people’s reproductive labour.

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  • @John February 5, 2018 at 11:49 AM
    Professor Woodville Marshall’s book on the place names of Barbados has three parishes where there are no “Rock Halls”… St. George.”

    https://www.barbadospropertysearch.com/for-sale/lot-1-2-rock-hall
    Land for sale at Rock Hall, St. George, Barbados

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  • So, Prof Marshall missed a parish …. know he did!!

    If you read his book you will realise he missed the simple truth on the foundation of Barbados, the BIBLE!!

    I reckon you will find a ROCK Hall in every parish, just like HOPE!!

    Reason is simplicity itself!!

    … once you understand what Barbados is!!

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  • Theophilius Gazerts 263

    Jesus! John, if you get your way you will bring back slavery..

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  • Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service

    More the reason for the majority Black population to close ranks against the disgusting minority racists on the island, they know how they think and have known for centuries, so stop enabling them in your own demise…

    .. stop enabling the minority racists to enrich themselves off you and your families existence generation after generation…

    ….call out VERY PUBLICLY, name and shame any house negros from parliament to the streets who continue to enable, pimp for, snitch to and take bribes from minority racists.

    Close ranks as African descended people and members of the majority population.

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  • Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service

    Only after BU and others came out to speak out against an unnecessary Bill tabled to ultimately violate human rights, only then does the Bar Association speak out.

    There should be outrage against government’s attempt to ignore and abuse the constitution.

    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/127342/attorneys-condemn-proposal

    “Attorneys condemn proposal

    Opposition to the Police (Amendment) Bill 2017 is mounting.

    The Barbados Bar Association, along with two constitutional experts, yesterday added their voice to the growing criticism against the amendments, which seek, among other things, to give expanded powers to the Royal Barbados Police Force. They include authority to impose cordons and curfews, to stop and search people and vehicles, and to enter homes within the cordon – all without a warrant.

    When he piloted the amendment bill in the House of Assembly on January 23, Attorney General Adriel Brathwaite said the legislative powers were necessary to address the harder challenges police faced in fighting criminals.

    But the Bar, the professional body representing lawyers, implied the amendments were unconstitutional and unnecessary. It said no substantial reason had been given for the amendments, as the powers being sought were presently available to the police, but required special circumstances to be used for good reason.”

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  • Theophilius Gazerts 263 February 6, 2018 at 7:16 PM #
    Jesus! John, if you get your way you will bring back slavery..
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    The BIBLE frees us all from slavery ….. slavery to sin!!

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  • BE CAREFUL BLOGGERS.

    “An alleged post to the gossip platform Naked Departure landed a newly-wed in the District “A” Magistrates’ Court yesterday.”

    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/127352/naked-departure-post-lands-woman-court

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  • Hants February 7, 2018 at 12:09 PM #

    There is a misbelief in this blog that anonymity somehow means one can ignore the law. I have been warning people for ages about this. A protection order is a non-criminal application, but there are more serious potential offences – and not all have to be brought in the Barbados jurisdiction. It would be a pity for a pensioner to lose his or her home and savings at this stage in their lives just for a silly statement on a blog.

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  • Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service

    So you better watch ya tongue Ha, Ha Austin…, they know where to find you.

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  • It seems as though being a pensioner is the qualifying prerequisite for contributing to BU.

    One cannot seriously compare “Naked Departure” with Barbados Underground. Whereas ND is used by many anonymous mischievous, malicious individuals and jilted lovers, to malign the characters and reputations of their “opponents” and former lovers…….

    …………..except for a few, majority of the anonymous contributors to BU do not post anything that is “menacing in character and intended to cause annoyance, inconvenience” to anyone.

    For example, I read in today’s Nation that Denis Lowe expressed outrage in Parliament at a social media post, which suggested his involvement in a recent criminal matter (and not surprisingly, he suggested the BLP was behind post). I was told he was referring to a story someone posted to Naked Departure……. and subsequently shown the article.

    (What I found interesting were contributions written by a Pat Sudat that “sounded” like contributions written by a BU contributor).

    And although one or two contributors may often refer to stories on “Naked Departure,” believing them to be gospel, surely the type of “behaviour” synonymous with that social media site……….is not rampant on BU.

    I’m sure David BU is not naïve……I believe he is capable of exercising good judgment in determining the contributions that would ultimately jeopardize his reputation and that of Barbados Underground.

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  • Thanks Artax, read the story and you are correct although it is not uncommon for BU to be included with the broad brush comments. The BU family self polices the blog as you know – those few times a submission or comment crosses the border the BU intelligentsia will sound off and the offending matter is always addressed by the BU household.

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  • Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service

    Dr. Artax…ya back, ya off ya meds again.

    So you run from blog to blog stalking and trying to connect contributors. …another clear sign of mental illness.

    Stalking commenters is a very well known lack of decorum….no one does that, no one who is sane anyway, I have never seen that on any blog before, be very careful who you are stalking, you may not like the outcome.

    You people go from counting posts to stalking contributors from blog to blog….do you stalk them on facebook too…

    ya can call up the governments about some I know….tell them I sent you…..

    if you can’t access those websites, oh well, just continue stalking the ones ya stalking now.

    Happy stalking…..

    Demasiado tonto para ser bueno

    Quand creuser un sapin grave quelqu’un, toujours creuser deux

    Niemand mag Verräter, weil Traitirs nicht vertraut werden kann

    C’è una ragione per cui così tanti si sono trovati legati a blocchi concreti

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  • Hmmmmmmm…..

    It seems as though “guilt” is an uncomfortable feeling……. or is it symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia?

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  • @Artax
    (What I found interesting were contributions written by a Pat Sudat that “sounded” like contributions written by a BU contributor).
    +++++++++
    Come on, call some names (you can use “allege(d)”

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  • @ Sarge

    Surely you jest!!!! You like yuh want dum to kill muh.

    I MENTIONED that I was SHOWN a “Naked Departure” post about Denis Lowe and also read the associated contributions, specifically one from a contributor that “sounded” like a BU contributor.

    And please note…….. I DID NOT mention a NAME or USED “allege(d),”………

    However, I was accused of being “insane, “too dumb to be good” and “stalking contributors from blog to blog”…………

    ………and told: “when digging a grave for someone, dig for two,” “nobody likes a traitor because traitors cannot be trusted” and “there is a reason why so many have found themselves tied to concrete blocks.”

    If I had actually “CALLED SOME NAMES” and “USED ALLEGE(D)”……..shiite, it would be thunder, fire & brimstone, “cat piss and pepper.”

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  • Well Well @ Cut and Paste @ Your Service

    No Dr. Artax…no guilt involved here..

    its just that…

    we know who the cowards on the blog are…

    we know who the tattle tales are, at the first sign of trouble, they will run to the authorities and even the embassy to give up the name of every blogger, including the blogmaster…

    …Ha, Ha Austin already revealed himsef…

    today we found out you stalk blogs to connect bloggers, that came directly from you…..

    tell me after that….. that you actually expect sensible people to trust you…i wont, am a big city gal.

    we know who the snitches on the blog are…

    at least ya actually got something useful to do, you really went looking for foreign blogs to connect people to, really….lol

    at least you know i dont hate you or i would give you the web addresses, then ya would really have something to fear, wont want that on my coscience..

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  • Well Well @ Cut and Paste @ Your Service

    …and dont let me forget we know who all the house negros on the blog are….the ones who still think that racists care for them….and will still run and carry news despite the well deserved kick they will get to their ass.

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  • Well Well @ Cut and Paste @ Your Service

    cud dear

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  • @Artax
    Were you counting to 50 or counting down from 50? 😊

    Where is AC these days? AC has been a stalwart on this blog, she must be recharging her batteries for the campaign.

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  • Sarge

    Probably counting past 50………….Watch wuh gine happen next when I type 29.

    Sarge, duh got some fretful and paranoid schizophrenics pun BU.

    All yuh have to do is count or write something they believe is about them……and lo and behold… yuh gine get cuss. They need to separate their lives from BU.

    According to Georgie Porgie……..bare mock sport in de rum shop.

    Hahahahahaha
    Wuh loss.

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  • Well well ( no pun intended ) after 24 hours of mind boggling ” wire tapping ” allegations, by the last BLP administration, the following is the current state of play :

    • Owen Arthur says ……he knows nothing about such dastardly acts !

    • Glyne Clarke says ……she knows nothing about such dastardly acts !

    • Santia Bradshaw says……she knows nothing about such dastardly acts !

    So therefore, given these suite of disclaimers……..how come near 48 hours later…..the voices of the last 2 Attorney Generals in the BLP administration……have NOT used their voices to DISCLAIM the same ????

    Something smells fishy in …….Roebuck Street !!

    Barbados 🇧🇧 deserves BETTER !!!

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  • You mean silent like when the PM did not disclose he had signed the CAHILL Power Agreement?

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  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    It is quite comical to voyage to these cyberspace hallways these many months later and see this article written by the venerable Mr. Jeffrey Cumberbatch

    De ole man some time back made the remark that there will come a time when the Democratic Labour Party would invoke the Emergency Powers Act and use it to disrupt the legislative process and to ensure that 5hey remain in power.

    The Honourable Blogmaster can confirm if such was posited by the ole fool.

    The content of the Act details what they are seeking to secure, which is to find and arrest the architects of their demise.

    But I will say this to Jeff and others of you here assembled.

    The only way that the DLP can get back into power is if the rig the ballot boxes OR declare a state of emergency that indefinitely protracts the calling of general elections.

    As I have said previously Prime Minister Mottley to be has to put a redundant system in place that will ensure that each ballot box is monitored from the time the box leaves the polling station until it is opened at the counting station.

    Even now she must be reaching out to the Commonwealth and the governments of the United States and the UK to seek independent monitors who will be on the ground WHEN THE VOTER RIGGING COMMENCES!

    De ole man would suggest that a three tier campaign be commenced that uses T-shirts to sensitize the public about what the DLP is planning.

    The message can be appropriately tailored to ensure that there is no libelous content, but what has to happen is that the DLP CANNOT TERRORIZE THE CITIZENRY AS IT HAS BEEN DOING AND AS IT INTENDS TO DO.

    THE second tier is to use the available ubiquitous toolsets and get people ALL BAJANS AWARE OF WHAT IS GOING ON.

    In this day and age noyone can stop SMSes and not a man jack can trace their source.

    Tier Three is already in play.

    As it relates to electronic information and accessing information on a computer or phone it is advisable that

    Mac Users firevault their Systems and create two users one of whom is a standard user without administrator rights
    PC users can use PGP or similar software to encrypt your hard drives and create similar users on your machines.

    Linux bad boys wunna dun hardened your Kali appropriately

    Install TOR from the torproject and use that to access your websites to provide certain internet security
    For the politically inclined or aspiring among you, Get a second phone with a SIM card that is purchased by a friend or family member whose surname is disimilar to your own and their relationship to you is unknown.

    ONLY USE THE SECOND phone to call denuded numbers. In layman’s talk, if you have a new “clean skin” phone, the new ones that are not known to the DLP, do not use that phone to call an old telephone number that is already in the known database of the phones that the DLP are monitoring via the Police

    Install Telegram or Signal (signal is preferred due to its current impregnatibility factor) and use a new list of clean skin numbers – SIM numbers that are unknown to make your calls or texts as needed ONLY ON THE SECOND PHONE

    PUT AN ALPHANUMERIC LOCK ON THE PHONE SO THAT A CODE MUST BE USED TO ACCESS THE PHONE and you should use *** to block all the forensic tools that can be used should that second phone be stolen

    This General election is going to be won by those people who understand the Internet of Things and who know how to influence people across the various spheres of interaction both physical and virtual

    Fumbles and Friends know that the only way they can win a third term is by stealing and this is what this Emergency Powers Abutment intends.

    They need access to the platform and they need access to the idiot posturers who have inadvertently been given information about its operations.

    Those that have eyes to see will understand what is happening.

    They seem to have a slight understanding of the fact that they will be beaten but they don’t know how and now they are frightened and seeking to pull the reigns in.

    Stinkliar is NOT A BRANIAC NEITHER IS FUMBLES and fortunately they do not have the ability to attract people who can help them to fight this one.

    What is detailed above clearly explains (to both sides) how to arm oneself in the coming weeks but it also should let all be aware that “weaker links in the communications matrix, MUST BE SAFEGUARDED AGAINST”

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  • David

    A very comparison / analogy of the two issues

    Alleged fraud ( wire tapping ) being compared with an allegation by an individual with a warped mind and a personal vendetta against PM Stuart over some fictional project called ( Cahill ) !

    David, surely you can do better !

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  • ‘Criminal act’
    psc says there is irrefutable evidence of illegal wiretapping by ex police chief

    https://www.barbadostoday.bb/2018/02/07/criminal-act/

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  • Piece

    Your delusional diatribe above would be of immense value to the Robert Mueller investigation in the USA 🇺🇸 of alleged vote rigging by the Russia’s in the last Presidential elections in 2016 !

    Bajan voters are more discerning than you think !

    There is lot to distill before the campaign heat is turned up !

    So don’t you panic !!!

    What the BLP need to convince themselves and the public of – that the same Police Amendment Bill they now complain of – they will repeal IMMEDIATELY if they are voted into office.

    Let them – BLP – declare that !

    They will recall the Tom Adams – EMERGENCY POWERS Act

    Did you and the BLPites…..RAIL against that Act……too !!!!

    You and some other morons foolishly believe Bajans have short memories !!!!

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  • Hants

    https://www.barbadostoday.bb/2018/02/07/criminal-act/

    I see that you were doing some research given the link above !

    Help us further , who was the Attorney General of Barbados 🇧🇧 at the time ?

    Does not the Royal Barbados Police Force fall under the office of the Attorney General ?

    If you become overwhelmed in finding the answers……you can ask the following persons to assist you ;

    • Prodigirl
    • Miller
    • Artax
    • piece ah de rock
    • David BU
    • Lorenzo

    Over the past weeks they were on BU as the authority on all matters !!!

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  • Fractured, help me
    https://www.barbadostoday.bb/2018/02/06/govt-to-clear-200-million-in-arrears-to-nis/

    How is it the MoF can proclaim a settlement in the arrears from the GoB to the NIS, and yet not know when, or the amounts involved? “expeditiously” is not a date? “a contribution of cash injections. . . and of course some Government paper”. Sounds like the NIS is being loaded up with a sh!tload more debt?? ‘injectionS’ = over a period of time?

    And James Paul, saying it is “scandalous” for employers to do exactly what the GoB did, NOT pay the NIS on a timely basis. Do as I say, not as we do??

    It is insulting to think Barbadians are that stupid?

    I don’t think any deal has been struck, or he [MoF] would know exactly HOW and WHEN the monies are to be repaid?

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  • • Owen Arthur says ……he knows nothing about such dastardly acts !
    • Glyne Clarke says ……she knows nothing about such dastardly acts !
    • Santia Bradshaw says……she knows nothing about such dastardly acts !
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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  • Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service

    Fracture and tick, tock…time to concern yourself with what CDB is saying about Barbados, that is what should concern the government, every day that passes is a day less before yall are thrown out of parliament on ya tails…

    ..it is quite obvious that it is too late for Fruendel and Sinckler to reverse the damage….so 0 for 0

    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/127650/ram-barbados-record-worst-growth-region

    “The CDB is telling the government exactly how they feel…..which makes the likelihood of them being reelected to parliament…0 for 0…lol……

    ….even countries impacted by hurricanes last year are likely to do better than Barbados economically, yet none of that concerns the government, talk about misplaced priorities.

    “Barbados is in danger of having the region’s worst performing economy this year.

    Growth of 1.7 ‘not enough’
    Predicting that the Barbados economy would grow by no more than 0.7 per cent in 2018, Caribbean Development Bank (CDB) director of economics Dr Justin Ram yesterday advised Government to take urgent action to reverse the slide.

    He gave the island a five-point to-do list that included reducing debt and cutting spending. Ram also thinks current road and sewage problems suggested Government needed to reform how infrastructure was built and managed in Barbados.

    The economist gave the advice yesterday as he forecast that after growing by one per cent last year, Barbados’ predicted marginal growth this year would be the worst of the CDB’s 19 borrowing member countries. This included countries affected by hurricanes last year.””

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  • Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service

    “Even now she must be reaching out to the Commonwealth and the governments of the United States and the UK to seek independent monitors who will be on the ground WHEN THE VOTER RIGGING COMMENCES!”

    Piece….a pleasure to have you back…and if Mia has not mobilized her contacts and resources and reached out to international bodies for assistance in policing this government during the election, she too remains part of the problem.

    We can all see where this is headed and no one should sit in fear and accept violations of all laws by a terrorist government, when the means are available to reach out, speak out and act..

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  • Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service

    Besides…she has Liz Thompson on board with her UN connections, any complaints of human rights violations, abuses and requests for assistance and they will monitor elections. ..it would be a good precedent to set for all potential human rights violating governments going forward….

    ….after these actions or lack of….then we will know which politicians really care for the people and which ones are only pretending to care to get their hands on free money and pensions…

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  • Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service

    Fractured and fell flat…another nonevent…like LEC…lol…bring the proof…says the police..lol

    Yall set out to terrorize the population to win an election, but we will bring you to your knees.

    https://www.barbadostoday.bb/2018/02/07/bring-the-proof-of-phone-tapping-claims-police-say/

    Bring the proof of phone tapping claims, police say

    “After Sinckler made the allegation, Arthur sought to make it clear that neither he nor his Cabinet had sanctioned any illegal wiretapping of telephones between 2000 and 2009.

    “This is a serious matter, but I can state categorically that no Cabinet I presided over in my 14 years in office sanctioned the tapping of any person’s telephones,” Arthur told Parliament.

    He said that as far as he was aware, from time to time the RBPF would undertake matters of public security, and he urged his parliamentary colleagues to examine the Police Act to see who would have been empowered to give police authority to carry out any activity.

    “Under Section 8 of the Police Act the Commissioner of Police is only answerable to the Governor General, not to any political leader. So any matter of this nature is between the Police Commissioner and the Governor General in office at the time. It is a policing matter, not a parliamentary one,” Arthur said.

    “Anyone who claims that phones were tapped for matters other than national security must bring proof. Bring the evidence because such statements have implications for the entire Cabinet,” he added.”

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  • More Independent Senators come out against the amendment.

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  • millertheanunnaki

    @ David February 8, 2018 at 7:38 AM

    But the Bill has been passed by the government’s majority in the Upper Chamber and will be enacted ‘before the cat can lick his ears’ (unlike the 2012 Integrity Bill) to serve its very purpose for the upcoming electoral plans and the IMF and Devaluation hurricane-like impact.

    It’s truly paradoxically intriguing how a black-dominated government can introduce such draconian legislation against its own black people from among which almost all the current legislators sprung.

    What is so different between what this legislation is intended to curtail and control and what Britain did under Margaret Thatcher with the infamous ‘Sus’ laws aimed primarily at young black people?

    Britain has moved away from that racist approach to policing, why is Little England ‘reintroducing’ outdated and noxious laws to control a so-called educated people as if the governance of its people is trapped in Victorian times which viewed black people as animals to be corralled and trained, an attitude that gave rise to the 1937 riots?

    The white plantation massas and the brutalizing colonial governing administrators have really left a curse of a legacy to the modern house slaves called black legislators with their blonde wigs and all.

    It reminds us of the Biblical “Parable of the Unforgiving Servant”.
    (GP and BC, are you reading?).

    Britain gave Barbados its formal Independence in 1966 and 51 years on this sob black gov of a sh*thole country wants to take it back 100 years to a pre-1918 penal colony.

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  • Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service

    Disgusting, self hating, corrupt house negros….Miller

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  • You should take Senator Worrell’s advice and take the matter to court. Of course when Comissiong obliges there is the different reaction.

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  • Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service

    With over 1200 lawyers on the island….why is this Bill not being challenged in the supreme court…by at least half of them.

    ….if Comissiong and a few other lawyers dont challenge the government, each and every time…no one else does.

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  • millertheanunnaki

    @ David February 8, 2018 at 8:57 AM

    It was the fingerprinting botch job and now this crap to control the stupid sheeple.
    Similar arguments were made to justify the introduction of the fingerprinting of every person (except the well-connected) leaving or arriving in Barbados.

    Is this a conveniently contrived conversation piece to divert the chatterati away from the rumbling shit bomb about to explode like a volcano of faeces?

    So is Comissiong still being blamed for the Hyatt non-erection?

    The Guv of the CB has got his eagle eyes on that foreign direct investment.

    At least MM can strike a deal with David the same way he has bought himself into the good books of the DLP awarding contractor-in-chief.

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  • Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service

    just imagine an extra load of poop from Hyatt on the about to explode sewage system, the government would have gone down with, not in, history.

    At this stage they will go down in history as being too incompetent.

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  • Talking Loud Saying Nothing

    Take a good look at this fascinating and contemporary documentary as it dovetails well with Jeff’s article and gives us an insight into the mindset of your David Comissiong’s of this world.

    http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/witness/2018/02/opposition-fighting-justice-png-180207063314808.html

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