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Nelson Statue Located In Heroes Square Barbados

โ€œโ€ฆAs a symbol of white supremacy and slavery it was meant to send a message. But it also represented an excessive and brutal abuse of parliamentary powerโ€ฆโ€ – Sir Hilary Beckles on the 1813 erection of the statue of Lord Nelson in Heroes Square, Bridgetown.

Readers of a certain age may well recall the Barbadian saying from one or two generations ago, usually expressed in the vernacular, โ€œHe or she goinโ€™ haโ€™ to show me the ball that shoot Nelsonโ€. As I recall it, it was uttered in the form of a threat, implying that there would be hell to pay if the absent object of the admonition did not achieve a task that I imagined many thought impossible or at least impractical, by giving a satisfactory excuse for their perceived indiscretion. As I have recently discovered however, the very ball that shot Admiral Nelson still does in fact exist, even though it probably remains as inaccessible as once thought.

According to the Royal Collection trust website – royalcollection.org.uk>-, a single lead shot or musket ball, about 15mm in diameter and weighing about 22 grammes, mounted with some remnants of gold lace from Admiral Nelsonโ€™s uniform lies beneath glass in a hinged silver locket with a gilt metal rope work border and suspension loop and forms part of the royal collection. The family of Dr William Beatty, the surgeon who removed it from the fatal wound after the Battle of Trafalgar in 1805, gifted it to Queen Victoria in 1842.

The recent initiatives in the US to remove historical monuments and place names from buildings that memorialize the Confederacy might have contributed to a local self-examination in that regard and once again caused us to reconsider the incongruous and prominent siting of the statue of Lord Nelson in what has been renamed Heroes Square. This discourse, as those relating to a capital punishment, the corporal punishment of children, the buggery laws, is prone to erupt periodically, to fret a fitful hour in the public domain and then disappear without any concrete action being taken by officialdom. It is as if the national conversation is enough in itself, a therapy for local public ennui.

The most recent attempt to reintroduce debate on this matter came last Sunday with the publication in the Barbados Advocate, (and during the week in another section of the print press), of a closely reasoned and cogently argued letter penned by Sir Hilary Beckles, Vice Chancellor of the University of the West Indies, under the caption, โ€œWhy Nelson must fallโ€. Will this counterblast prove to be the local ball that shot Nelson?

In his letter, Sir Hilary makes the point that while generally nations that claim their ideological roots in the democratic struggles of the working class have opposed publicly revering persons and their accomplices known to have committed crimes against humanity, and while their governments seek to avoid using their considerable moral and legal state power to normalize the acceptance of such crimes within the community of victims, Barbados may be considered deviant or a pariah in this regard, given the central prominence in the public square of the monument the of Lord Nelson who he deems a โ€œvile racist white supremacist who despised black people and dedicated his political and military life to the cause of protecting Britainโ€™s criminal possession of the 800, 000 enslaved Africans during his lifetimeโ€. He asserts further that this โ€œblunt brutality of state powerโ€ as he sees it, is considered criminal in some quarters.

For him, the continued presence of the statue is โ€œa persistent violent imposition upon the mind of every right-thinking democratic citizen and he turns on its head the familiar justificatory canard that English tourists will stop coming to Barbados to Barbados in the numbers we expect if the statue is removed.

Sir Hilary argues to the contrary that our English tourists are mostly educated and informed people who would feel more relaxed in Barbados if we appear โ€œmore dignified and less bowedโ€.

Unsurprisingly, as it is here with most matters that relate to the intellect solely and not to scurrilous gossip, to hints of scandal or to partisan political issues, the subsequent populist response has been underwhelming to say the least. To my best knowledge, the issue was not broached on either of the daily talk-shows during the past week, there has been as yet no column or letter to the Editor of either print newspaper on the subject, neither of the two historians whose names he mentioned in the letter has responded, and a perusal of some of the published individual comments to the letter on the other newspaperโ€™s blog evidences a largely popular lack of concern about the issue.

One commentator agrees that the statue should not be there, but also argues that given โ€œthe many problems which are chocking (sic) Barbados, now is not the time for talking about its removal. Another queries rhetorically whether Nelson was not part of our history and if yes, why are we trying to erase history? For him or her, we would be more โ€œconstructive and productiveโ€ if we were to focus on the pressing issues. And of course, there is the not unexpected uninformed comment that Sir Hilary had absolutely no problem with accepting a knighthood โ€œbased upon the same English imperial honours system which rewarded Nelson for his accomplishmentsโ€. The writer further expresses the hope that on the same day that Nelson is removed, that Sir Hilary Beckles will โ€œrenounce and return his knighthood to the appropriate authoritiesโ€. This newspaper adverted to this regrettable confusion in a recent editorial, a confusion wrought primarily by the odd insistence on titling one of our highest national honours after a middling English honorific, even if in a different and local Order.

Some of this populist thinking mirrors that in the US, where some argue that the Confederate monuments are โ€œa reminder of what the country had to go through to become whole againโ€ and that it is important to save these monuments for future generations to see and learn about them โ€ฆโ€ Others ask, โ€œWhy are we looking back? Why are they wanting to remove our history? Isnโ€™t this what the Taliban and ISIS have done? This is not a race war. It is about securing our countryโ€™s history as it isโ€ฆโ€

To be continuedโ€ฆ


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271 responses to “The Jeff Cumberbatch Column – “…The Ball That Shot Nelson””

  1. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Only the self defeatist, low self esteem, no self confidence black mind in a majority black country would want to keep a statue dedicated to their own brutalized ancestors, as being superior to them and their ancestors, and as a daily reminder of their continued brainwash and decades of miseducation ……to draw tourists in a bid to maintain their own lazy, self defeatist status as not being able to survive without tourism.

    At some point in time even the tourists will find that state of affairs too repugnant and distasteful to continue to photograph nelson….

    ……. this has become an enlightened world and there is a worldwide movement to relegate such bird shat, evil stone memories of crimes against humanity, to museums.


  2. Isn’t Nelson a remnant of our “Englishness”? Here are a couple of suggestions we can donate the statue to the Brits so they can place it on the grounds of the High Commission or offer it o Antigua to be placed in Nelson’s dockyard.

    Next on tap those English names all over the country, I am tired of going to Popular in Kendal Hill and going to Miami Beach in Enterprise or is it Scarborough? Of course getting there means going through Maxwell,Welches and Oistins.

    Now I think about it we should change the name “Barbados” bestowed on us by the Portugese and we know about their record. What was the name that the indigenous people had for this island in the sun?

  3. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Isnโ€™t Nelson a remnant of our โ€œEnglishnessโ€

    That’s the problem with the damaged mind….the “englishness” does not go anywhere, just because the statue of an english criminal is moved a couple miles away to a museum.

    The tourists still get to go and visit the stone statue, but will pay for the pleasure, those who will not find it too repulsive.


  4. @Sargeant

    Your tongue in cheek intervention is relevant.The key to to ensure the local population is aware of the history and to view legacy symbols via the correct prism.


  5. In the Western world, intelligent opinion has already achieved widespread agreement on the subject of controversial monuments.

    In most cases, these monuments should be left alone, but new public monuments should be added to honour the accomplishments of neglected groups.

    Where the supporting constituencies for a monument have dwindled to insignificance, like the white citizens in a Barbados that is no longer ruled by British officials or English landowners, there is certainly a case for moving the monument to a museum.

    But I have to note the irony of the Beckles complaint. As the Big Man at Mona, Hilary Beckles has made sure that there is an expensive monument to prominent black racist Marcus Garvey at the UWI campus in Jamaica. But at the same time he is denouncing Admiral Nelson for being a racist.

  6. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    It’s worth writing a thesis on why black minds are so yearning to be personally associated , even through DNA…..with the most vile and brutal white criminals of their slave history ….and why those same black minds would shun the current black petty or serious criminals in their own existing societies.

    Even the descendant of those savages and animals from UK and US have either changed their names or like General Lee’s descendants, tried to white wash what their ancestors did with lies and half truth, but the black victims of that history are still trying to hold on to a personal relationship with dead white criminals from the past…amazing…

    And of course, true to nature, the dummy Chadster missed the whole concept of the very existence, preachings, predictions and genius of Marcus Garvey…, ah would like the idiot to show me who Garvey ever enslaved, brutalized, murdered, raped, lied or committed fraud against or stole from…..for 400 years.

    It would be a thesis worth it’s weight in gold.

    If I had not gotten so comfortable at this age, ah would write the thesis myself.


  7. Jeff wondered why Beckles’ article did not get any traction. The answer is simple: Beckles has discredited himself in the eyes of the average Barbadian, who view his research and writings as suspect. He has lost credibility; nobody wants to hear him except for a few snobs who attend his presentations.

  8. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Even the descendant of those savages and animals from UK and US have either changed their names or like General Leeโ€™s descendants, tried to white wash what their ancestors did with lies and half truths, JUST TO GET AWAY FROM THE STIGMA ASSOCIATED WITH THEIR ANCESTOR’S CENTURIES OF CRIMES AGAINST A WHOLE RACE OF PEOPLE……

    ….but the black victims of that history are so obsessed with being victims and remaining victims, continue embrace these dead and living white criminals with all they got and as with much energy as their limited intellects will allow and are still trying to hold on to personal relationships with dead white criminals from the pastโ€ฆamazingโ€ฆ

    There had to be some experiment more at play here than just ya garden variety brainwashing, in my opinion….although a very learned Swiss German friend of mine many years ago assured me that it was not hard for them to accomplish….it was rather easy…he said.

    That is wgat happens when ya got the weakest of black males heading up societies.


  9. “Next on tap those English names all over the country, I am tired of going to Popular in Kendal Hill and going to Miami Beach in Enterprise or is it Scarborough? Of course getting there means going through Maxwell,Welches and Ousting.

    Sarge, you realize of course that a coincidence of names is quite unlike a monument to a single individual in the central space of a nation?


  10. I thought the reason nelsons statue was erected was in in appreciation of the fact you guys were thankful you didnt have to learn french or spanish

  11. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    But I learned those languages and more anyway Lawson, much to the dismay of many, so explain that.


  12. WW&C

    We have to suppose that the only reason Marcus Garvey never enslaved anyone was that (a) he was born too late to do so, and (b) he belonged to a people who were too incompetent and ineffectual to dominate or control any of their neighbours.

    But he probably would have if he could have.

  13. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Chadster….ya mean something like yaself…ya trying to project what you would do if ya could and/or had the intellect….. onto Garvey and his memory…

    But many books have been written about Garvey, none about you, their are buildings he owns still standing as a tribute to him in US and other paces ….today….none to you…

    And enough information is available to anyone both black, white and others worldwide who quote him today……to debunk your lies, envy and jealousy…that what you are saying was never Garvery’s intent, but yours and others like yaself.

    Ya can go even lower than that if ya want, we totally expect it from the likes of you.


  14. Why is it that there are no other prior statues, for example of Rodney who defeated the French at the Battle of the Saints just next door in April 1782?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Saintes

    It happened right on our doorstep, of Dominica.

    The same French Fleet that had blockaded the British at Yorktown and caused the surrender of Cornwallis a few months earlier in October 1781 and the loss of America lay in tatters.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Saintes

    How much more memorable can that have been for Barbados (Little England) than a victory that took place across the globe at Trafalgar?

    It doesn’t get better than that!!

    Surely there should have been a statue to Rodney?

    “Rodney was credited with pioneering the tactic of “breaking the line” in the battle, though this is disputed”.

    Nelson may have learnt it from him and employed it at Trafalgar!!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Trafalgar

    “The plan had three principal advantages. First, the British fleet would close with the Franco-Spanish as quickly as possible, reducing the chance that they would be able to escape without fighting.[37] Second, it would quickly bring on a mรชlรฉe and frantic battle by breaking the Franco-Spanish line and inducing a series of individual ship-to-ship actions, in which the British were likely to prevail.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nelson_Touch

    “There is a tendency amongst some historians to attribute these tactics to Nelson alone. There was nothing new in his ideas however: breaking the enemy line had previously been achieved by, amongst others, Admiral George Rodney at the Battle of the Saintes (1782);[7] Admiral Adam Duncan had divided his fleet at Camperdown (1797).[8] Concentration on one part of the enemy fleet was a very old tactic and had already been used by Nelson at the Nile in 1798.[9][10]”

    I’ll leave you to ponder this anomaly.

    … and you guessed it , I think it has something to do with Quakers and their thinking!!


  15. https://snr.org.uk/admiral-lord-rodney-in-jamaica/

    Jamaica seems to have got it right!!


  16. http://quakerspeak.com/how-are-quaker-cemeteries-different/

    Equality even in death!!

    Barbadian Quakers are buried all over the country in unmarked graves.

    Why would they put up a statue and exalt a man?

    If we arrive at the realization that Nelson’s statue is indeed out of place and decide to take it down, then we should take down all that have been erected in the recent spate of statue erections in Barbados!!

  17. Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger

    and of course when you ASS-U-ME…that`s all ya end up doing.

    try building an empire like Garvey, instead of waiting for someone white to build one so ya can beg a job.


  18. “If we arrive at the realization that Nelsonโ€™s statue is indeed out of place and decide to take it down, then we should take down all that have been erected in the recent spate of statue erections in Barbados!!

    @John -Huh? Do not rationales matter at all?


  19. I would agree that there is little cause nor need for Nelson’s statue to remain. He represented abhorrent acts and now really, very few in Barbados have interest in Nelson.

    Probably a reason for the lack of response, aside from Caswell’s response.

    John actually has a point, why exalt any man?

    I say, bulldoze Nelson.

    Just do not do it for $1million, for some people to profit heavily from it.

    It can be done for $5,000.


  20. WW being able to to say,do you want a woman for the night in a bunch of dialects doesnt mean you speak the language.
    Getting rid of the nelson statue probably means nothing to him or his ilk but just throwing this out there.. because it is simple deduction for a tourist destination
    england is nelson , barbados hates nelson..barbados hates england


  21. Jeff

    What do you mean by rationales?


  22. My feeling would be if we became so changed and realized a statue is really a graven image, then we should take down all graven images!!!!


  23. I really couldn’t care if the Nelson statue stays or goes. However the “lotta long talk” is torture. What is wrong with Barbados with this impotence to be decisive and act? We have become a nation afraid our shadow!


  24. I can agree with John; take them all down, especially the one of Errol Barrow. That is the last thing that Barrow would have wanted. He made it known that he did not want any such monuments to himself but out of an act of supreme disrespect, Owen Arthur overruled his stated wishes and erected a pigeon perch at Independence Square

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  25. Caswell Franklyn September 17, 2017 at 8:54 AM #

    ……….The answer is simple: Beckles has discredited himself in the eyes of the average Barbadian,……..
    ……………………………

    Caswell Franklyn September 17, 2017 at 12:58 PM #

    ……… That is the last thing that Barrow would have wanted. He made it known that he did not want any such monuments to himself ……………………….
    ……………………………..

    Quite true on both counts.

    Interesting to note that both of us have stated these facts time and time again with no one able to refute them……..

  26. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Lawson…even in english ya dont get it…, and still have to pay some man for it,……

    …..the statue will be in a museum getting big bucks from tourists who can still stomach it…

    ….. no one is getting rid of anything, but freeing up space to maybe honor real humans instead of dead savages like nelson.

    All statues in my opinion, should be in museums where they belong, this obsession with wasting money on shit stands for birds, is ridiculous.

    It would be even cheaper to throw the whole lot of ugly statues in the sea and create reefs for the fish and sea life, at least they will then be useful, as things stand, nothing good comes from ugly statues, never did.


  27. I personally have never believed in monuments or statues and as John suggests lets have a blanket removal of all statues and monuments in Bim.

    As an independent country we have the right to do what we please with the publics approval and as such a country name change and the replacement of all colonial names would be possible.

    I would further suggest that we also remove all things in Bim paid for by the colonial masters i.e. buildings,slave progeny,etc,etc


  28. WW you mean like the concorde LoL You should get rid of the statue and the moniker as well little england. You can now be called little non descript island

  29. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Even the concorde has some use…..endless parties and visits.

    What non descript what…the island is well known, good or bad, just like old Blighty..


  30. Nelson will get a washing down today and tomorrow.

    “Director of the DEM, Kerry Hinds, urged persons not to be complacent, but to take all necessary precautions as approached the system approached.

    โ€œPlease continue to pay attention to the radio and listen for updates, particularly those persons living in low lying or flood prone areas. Higher gusts of wind are also expected with the system as it approaches the islands,โ€ she said.

    The Director also reminded persons that they should contact the Royal Barbados Police Force, the Barbados Fire Service or the Barbados Defence Force to report damage or flooding, so that the necessary assistance could be facilitated.

    โ€œAll the emergency response agencies are on heightened alert and are ready to respond should they be required to,โ€ she assured.”


  31. There is another memorial in the Square!!!

    Actually two others!!

    Can you name them and explain why they are memorials?


  32. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: 5Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; 6And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Here is where the graven images comes from, also note the iniquity of the fathers on the children unto the third and fourth generations …. and the express qualification!!!!!!!!!!!

    … of them that hate me!!

    The qualification should really make you think!!


  33. shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments


  34. Something has gone fundamentally wrong in Barbadian thinking!!


  35. “…who he deems a โ€œvile racist white supremacist who despised black people and dedicated his political and military life to the cause of protecting Britainโ€™s criminal possession of the 800, 000 enslaved Africans during his lifetimeโ€.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Finally, we have the number, 800,00 slaves were freed at emancipation in the entire British Empire.

    India is not included because there was no need for African slaves.

    Canada was not included I wonder why … it is a worthwhile question to research.

    Starting in 1817, a registration was made of every slave in the British Empire.

    http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=1129

    It was updated every 3 years to ensure no trade in slaves contrary to the 1807 abolition of the Slave Trade took place.

    Here is what is available in the database and what is not.

    Aboutย Slave Registers of former British Colonial Dependencies, 1813-1834
    In 1807 The Abolition of Slave Trade Act came into force. The act made the trade in slaves from Africa to the British colonies illegal. To combat illicit transportation following this act many of the British Colonies began keeping registers of black slaves who had been so-called โ€œlawfully enslavedโ€. In 1819 the Office for the Registry of Colonial Slaves was established in London and copies of the slave registers kept by the colonies were sent to this office. Registration generally occurred once every three years. The registers continue through to 1834 when slavery was officially abolished.

    This database contains the slave registers for the following colonies and years:

    Antigua (1817-1818, 1821, 1824, 1828, 1832)
    Bahamas (1822, 1825, 1828, 1831, 1834)
    Barbados (1817, 1820, 1823, 1826, 1829, 1832, 1834)
    Berbice (1818-1819, 1822)
    Dominica (1817, 1820, 1823)
    Grenada (1817-1834)
    Honduras (1834)
    Jamaica (1817, 1820, 1823, 1826, 1829, 1832, 1834)
    Mauritius (1817, 1819, 1822, 1826, 1830, 1832, 1835)
    Nevis (1817, 1822, 1825, 1828, 1831)
    Sri Lanka (Ceylon) (1818-1832)
    St Christopher (1817, 1822, 1825, 1827-1828, 1831, 1834)
    St Lucia (1815, 1819)
    St Vincent (1817, 1822, 1825, 1828, 1831, 1834)
    Tobago (1819-1834)
    Trinidad (1813, 1815-1816, 1819, 1822, 1825, 1828, 1831, 1834)
    Virgin Islands (1818, 1822, 1825, 1828, 1831, 1834)

    The following colonies are not included in this collection but can be viewed in paper form at The National Archives.

    Jamaica (pieces 193, 206-208)
    St Christopher (pieces 261-263)
    Grenada (piece 264, 266)
    Dominica (pieces 359-363)
    Nevis (piece 369)
    St Lucia (pieces 382-390)
    Demerara (pieces 391-436)
    Berbice (pieces 441-446)
    Montserrat (pieces 447-451)
    Bermuda (pieces 452-455)
    St Vincent (pieces 494, 496)
    Mauritius (piece 566, 571)
    Cape of Good Hope (pieces 652-662)

    Information available on these records includes:
    Name of owner
    Place of residence (usually name of parish)
    Name of slave (usually only a given name. If the slave had been baptized this may include the slave name and the Christian name)
    Gender of slave
    Age of slave
    Nationality of slave


  36. john do you mean the images or statues in church


  37. There were just over 80,000 in Barbados

  38. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Yeah…cause ya can only be a dumb ass to think that the sins of the fathers unto the 3, 4th, 5th and up to the 16th or 29th generations…applies to anyone else but you and your evil ilk.

    Yall have to pay for your sins and those if ya ancestors…and apparently, your generation have already started paying….28 more of your generations to go,…that’s at least 700 more years if KARMA and RETRIBUTION to follow….ya ain’t even got fully started paying back yet.

  39. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Gotta get every word just right…

    Yall have to pay for your sins and those OF ya ancestorsโ€ฆand apparently, your generation have already started payingโ€ฆ.28 more of your generations to go,โ€ฆthatโ€™s at least 700 more years OF KARMA and RETRIBUTION to followโ€ฆ.ya ainโ€™t even got fully started paying back yet.


  40. Chad

    You are a fucking idiot.

    The term ‘racism’ has a particular and scientific meaning

    It does not mean hating somebody or other peoples based on the colour of skin. People hate other people for all types of reasons. This does not qualify as racism, you complete jackass!

    It goes much further and sets up a social order where racism is then enshrined in the law of the land.

    There has NEVER been any circumstance where Afrikan peoples anywhere in all the worlds have set up such a formal or informal system.

    Your idiotic and oft libel about the Great Marcus Mosiah Garvey is worthy of death.

    Now you may have the last word. What a complete raassssssoul female rabbit you are!

  41. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    And the way yall dying out from disease and everything else, unless you get swallowed up into the black majority population…yall can never last another 700 years.

    Remember, it started out with 50,000 of you deported and Barbadosed….400 years later….making allowances for immigration….being generous and saying 20,000 emigrated when independence rolled around, that still does not explain why there are only 7,500 of you left in Barbados…after 400 years….so it’s safe to say, yall got short shelf life….and will disappear shortly anyway, read…become extinct.

    It’s happening in europe at an alarming rate…aint that the shits.

    Karma at work and play.


  42. Freundel may not be very popular hereabouts but he asked Bajans to think about three questions leading up to the 50th anniversary: What they would like to keep; What they would like to discard and what they would like to see in the next 50 years (hope I got them right) perhaps Nelson’s statue could fit into one of those categories.


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  44. Is this the best that Beckles can find to do with his time? Paid for with Government (taxpayer) monies, and with all of the challenges that the Caribbean faces at this time, one would have thought that as brilliant a mind as his would be more gainfully employed. Tell me, how many here go to sleep at night thinking about Nelson’s statue and how negative the impact has been in your life?

    I don’t see the statue of Lord Nelson when I pass – so too as with that of the Rt Hon EWB’s bust. C’mon people, let’s invest our time in more productive and meaningful ways. Answer this question, on a scale of one to ten, where would you rate the value of this discussion and by extension the removal of this statue?


  45. *Chad

    You are a fucking idiot….Your idiotic and oft libel about the Great Marcus Mosiah Garvey is worthy of death.*

    @ Pachamama, Come now Pacha, even the dull and ignorant… they too have their story.


  46. Jeff

    Sorry. Tried of his constant blood libel of a man who tried to save Afrikan peoples

    And will take him on, from now on, in a visceral manner!


  47. Jeff

    Sorry. Tried of his constant blood libel of a man who tried to save Afrikan peoples

    And will take him on, from now on, in a visceral manner!

    @ Pachamama, Accepted…and understood!

  48. millertheanunnaki Avatar

    @ Vincent Haynes September 17, 2017 at 1:15 PM

    It’s really amazing how a people can become so philistine- like the Islamic Fundamentalist of the Taliban anti Buddha variety- as to so eagerly want to destroy a country’s past to rebuild it in their own god’s image of religious propaganda and twisted history to support a stupidly hypocritical political agenda of Bajan black supremacy?

    But if black Bajans want to be so ashamed of their heritage both cultural and built, so be it.
    But first let them change their slave names they so proudly wear like heavy chips on their culturally broken shoulder.

    Why canโ€™t they go for broke and ask get rid of the colonially stark reminders and trappings of their slavery past by removing all those painted images and relics still adorning the Houses of Parliament?

    What about eradicating all aspects of their slavery past by knocking down that grim reminder called the grimy-poorly-maintained statue of Emancipation aka the curse of the eponymous Bussa who let down and betrayed by his own black brethren working around the Massa great houses in exchange for a few more servings of pig trotters and intestines to make puddin Nโ€™ souse.

    Massa Elcock, the masochistic pedophile, must be rolling in his murdered grave having a laugh at his โ€˜freedโ€™ niggers.

    Why canโ€™t our resident researcher and archivist Sir John, the quivering Quaker, do a virtual archaeological-type dig on the genealogy of the Beckles clan in Barbados?

    He might just find sufficient justification for the modern-day professor- parading as the Messiah of the modern slaves- to be so volte-face a turncoat to his roots.

    How else can you explain a man so rapidly opposed to the deleterious impact of slavery and colonialism on the psyche of black people but can flaunt his love and total admiration of the very emblems, symbols and cultural relics which epitomize the quintessential of slavery and British colonialism?

    Is this same Sir Hilary- a title most befitting a highland knight and graduate cum laude of St. Andrews in Scotland- one of the greatest lover of the colonial game of cricket; a relic from a colonial past-time and the embodiment of white entertainment and relaxation in the sugarcane crop over season where black boys were mere spectators and retrievers of the balls dispatched to the cane pieces?

    When Prof. Beckles is able to come to grips with his soul possessed by the devil of contradiction and his split personality of schizophrenic confusion we might just be inclined to support his call for the removal of the mannequin of a lifeless one-eyed sailor whose only crime against Barbados was to refer to it as the hellhole of morality in the West Indies.

    If he, Sir Hilary, is so madly enthused to persistently rile against the exploits of Admiral Nelson let him visit that magnificently imposing statue at Trafalgar Square in โ€˜hisโ€™ Mother Country and try to deface the images of the black faces etched in the marble plinths and who served as powder monkeys in his many naval victories in the West Indies and North Africa.

    The confused professorโ€™s time would be better spent in any contribution to his black people if he was to concentrate on the reparations issue to ensure blacks received compensation for their part in the evil business of slavery equivalent to that awarded to the white owners of free labour.

    His university and fiefdom of concrete would do well with a serious injection of funding in whichever form to ensure its survival over the next 10 years to 20 years.


  49. @John September 17, 2017 at 2:17 PM “Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath.”

    And everyday, you, me all ‘o we spending money that got graven images on them…and I neva hear anybody yet refuse money yet because of the graven images.

    Stupssseee!!!

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