Mara Thompson M.P.

It has become obvious in recent years to the thinking citizen of Barbados that our system of government is in need of an overhaul. The inability of the Public Accounts Committee (PAC) to function under successive governments or the disregard of the findings of the Auditor General are two examples of the dysfunction. The Upper House (Senate) has become nothing more than a rubber stamp for the Lower House and the Lower House has denigrated to poorakeyness.

The challenge for civic minded Barbadians is how do we effectively advocate to force change. The reality is that our system of democracy has been hijacked by the political class and the unwillingness to make obvious changes.

The current state of our democracy brings into focus the role of the backbencher. Of the 16  members of parliament on the government side 13 are frontbenchers and the Speaker makes 14. Only Mara Thompson and James Paul represent the backbench – to ensure the workings of parliament Thompson performs the role of Deputy Speaker and Paul Chairman of Committees. There is no backbench!

The current configuration of the Barbados parliament does not represent how the Westminster parliamentary system is meant to function by the framers. No backbench in the Barbados parliament means that the prime minister does not have the opportunity to use a political Whip. The result is that we have had to tolerate a level of indiscipline by actors on the government side hitherto seen and perhaps best represented by David Estwick brandishing a weapon in the Lower House in the last session of parliament.

No backbench also means that there is no opportunity for dissenting opinion to influence government’s agenda. There is no need to be prolix on the problem we currently face. Our system must be designed to be always influenced by the PEOPLE.

72 responses to “No Backbench!”

  1. Vincent Haynes Avatar
    Vincent Haynes

    https://www.barbadostoday.bb/2017/05/15/survival-not-enough/
    Survival not enough
    Barbados has been in survival mode for too long. Economist Marsha Caddle has contended that answers are needed to the question raised in 2014 by former prime minister Sir Lloyd Sandiford about the perilous state of the national…
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  2. Frustrated Businessman: enact Facilitation Martial Law! Avatar
    Frustrated Businessman: enact Facilitation Martial Law!

    The fundamental problem is this: the people we need to run this country will rarely lower themselves to a political podium and, if they do, will not stoop to the level of those ‘popular’ with the current Bajan masses.

    For this reason the best we can hope for is a de-politicised Senate, with members put forward by long-standing social and professional associations after internal elections, to keep the ‘popular’ law-makers in check.

  3. Vincent Haynes Avatar
    Vincent Haynes

    We need to get back as close as feasible to the vestry system where the communities would have a say in what is affecting their particular area by electing members from amongst themselves to sit on the council for that area.

    Each council will elect 1 or 2 representatives depending on the number of councils to the islands parliament that will not exceed 13 members whose responsibilities will lie in management and facilitation of areas such as foreign policy,judicial,police,army,countries infrastrucure generally…….in essence all things of a national concern.

    In the final analysis for good or bad the people are responsible for the direction of the country.

  4. Vincent Haynes Avatar
    Vincent Haynes

    A case for political reform | Barbados Today
    A case for political reform
    Recently, the Opposition Leader, Mia Mottley, floated the idea of increasing the number of members of the House of Assembly, and was widely denounced. However, few seem to recognize that she was trying to find a solution to the…
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    https://www.barbadostoday.bb/2017/05/17/a-case-for-political-reform/

  5. Vincent Haynes Avatar
    Vincent Haynes

    There is, however, another way to address Ms Mottley’s concerns. We could change the composition of the Senate and the appointment process in a way that would better reflect the democratic will of the Barbadian people. My thought is that the relative number of Senators should be allocated based on the share of the vote obtained by each party in the immediately preceding General Election. Therefore, if a party gets 40% of the popular vote, its leader gets to appoint 40% of the political appointees to the Senate.

    This change would transform the Senate from a mere rubber stamp for Government policies to a more dynamic institution and lead to more diverse representation in that Chamber by giving a voice and status to more than the two main political parties and selected special interests. We should also consider reducing the number of the Governor General’s appointees from seven to five and increasing the political party appointees from fourteen to twenty, for a net increase of four.

    Therefore, the proposed structure would be a Senate of twenty-five members. One-fifth would be appointed by the Governor General to represent special interests while the remaining twenty would be appointed by the political parties that contested the immediately preceding election. In this system, roughly 5% of the national vote would translate to one Senate seat.
    ……………………………………………………

    Interesting posit……copied from the above.


  6. It is refreshing to be having this kind of discussion, however, when the Opposition makes it to government it is all forgotten like the Integrity Legislation for example.

  7. Vincent Haynes Avatar
    Vincent Haynes

    David

    Good point…sad…but true.


  8. David, Vincent

    Well, we have to make a quantum leap


  9. A leap over the predictable logic of the system.

  10. Bernard Codrington. Avatar
    Bernard Codrington.

    This discussion cannot be for real. The electorate voted and gave the DLP a narrow margin of victory. The public political analysts failed to clarify the issues for the average John Doe. It is the people who voted in a strong opposition. It was a tactical failure of the opposition not to force an earlier election.
    Nothing is wrong with the system . The blame is on those who were too inept to exploit the wiggle room which the electoral result gave. So the people failed themselves.
    Anybody who is so cowardly as not to face the electorate has no right to make decisions on behalf of the electorate. No one is born to rule in a democracy. There is no entitlement here.

  11. Vincent Haynes Avatar
    Vincent Haynes

    Bernard

    In the final analysis for good or bad the people are responsible for the direction of the country.
    ………………

    Whats wrong with that statement above or my wish for a community elected and run system?

  12. Bernard Codrington. Avatar
    Bernard Codrington.

    @ Vincent

    The Vestry system was a failure. Why do you want to revisit it? We are a nation of less than 300K persons. Do we really need more than the present numbers in Parliament to make policy decisions? A country where the parties are all ideologically Left Centrists?

  13. Vincent Haynes Avatar
    Vincent Haynes

    Bernard

    Why are the Democrats reviewing the electoral laws and the powers of the Potus presently with a view of limiting the posibility of another Trump?

  14. Vincent Haynes Avatar
    Vincent Haynes

    Bernard

    Lets forget the word Vestry as it has many negative connotations and deal with island councils…..where I stay in the UK is called a village with as many people as here and about a dozen councillors elected from within to run it………Can you tell me whats wrong with a system that will have only 13 parliamentarians,no statuatary boards,a reduced civil service and no senate.
    ?

  15. Bernard Codrington. Avatar
    Bernard Codrington.

    @ Vincent at 1: 22 PM

    It simply would not deliver to us, the Barbadian people, the level of efficiency to which we have become accustomed. We did not reach the level of well being by imitating systems from other cultures. What you experience in Barbados took 300 years to evolve.


  16. Bernard

    We have not reached a stage of well being and thats the point.

    Can you tell us how our system has advanced since 1966?

  17. Bernard Codrington. Avatar
    Bernard Codrington.

    @ Vincent at 1 : 58 PM
    You confessed that you live in a village in U.K. Why do you not come home to Barbados for a short holiday contribute to our GDP and foreign reserves and then compare it with your life in your English village. If you were away since 1966 you will find many political, social. and economic improvements since then. Better still please read the Economic and Social reports of independent world institutions. I travel abroad- both sides of the Atlantic – and I see nothing that is superior to what we have here. But we do not sit on our laurels we believe in continuous improvement…. hence the apparent high level of dissatisfaction on the ground. That is how we improve. …. Self criticism.


  18. Some representation at parochial level is desirable.Oversight of 300000 souls do not require 30 members of parliament all of whom want to be a minister or placed in a position to control taxpayers monies as if it’s their personal belongings.The vestry system worked however the black people and their representatives experienced the persistent poverty and the controlling interests of the Anglican Church and its policies of maintaining an albino hegemony that had become unsuited in a 20th century type plantation society.A bajan educated to 7th standard compliments of the state,asked questions and demanded a stake in the running of the country.The existing model need to be refined to suit a 21st century bajan.
    Whatever arrangement is better suited to our economic and social development should be well ventilated with wide participation at street level and not ordained from on high a la Errol.


  19. Bernard

    I used the words…..where I stay….as opposed to live.

    I have not lived outside of BIM since ’72 and have assisted in failed governmental attempts to carry the country forward. I would say I am quite aware of the way our system operates.

    Could you respond to my previous comments.


  20. Listening to the Senate today has convinced more than ever that it is waste of taxpayers money and needs disbanding.

  21. Bernard Codrington. Avatar
    Bernard Codrington.

    @ Vincent Haynes at 2:36 PM

    It is nice to know that you spent 45 years in post independent Barbados. I am very disappointed to learn that that you have found nothing to celebrate in the achievements of our country.

    I have already responded to your comments and I am sorry that response is not what you expected.
    The fact that a bus has an incompetent driver should not translate to a belief that the bus is defective. Simply changing the driver will get you safely to your destination.


  22. @ Bernard
    Simply changing the driver will get you safely to your destination.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Except that the conductor is also defective with decimals…. the mechanic is a Kant, …the routes are all messed up ….and the passengers are brass….

    Besides…
    …do we even HAVE a destination…?
    If you have no idea where you are going, …then any shiite bus will get you there.


  23. Bushie

    Well said.

    Bernard

    An interesting response.

  24. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    We are all talking about local government. but we need to remember that local government can also breed corruption. There are many people who maintain that money/services allotted to the very poor do not always reach them. Local government without elected Mayors and open elections to the various agencies by the people from the district where it is implemented will be a massive failure. There is local government in Trinidad and corruption is rampant.We should understand that local government elections with candidates from the same BLPDLP will produce the same results we now have.
    @ David
    Your point is taken. These two parties had 50 years to implement Integrity Legislation. What we are hearing now is bare election talk. The fatted calf will just take the 20 minute stroll from George Street to Roebuck Street or vice versa , as it has done for the last half century. It is frightening that these BLPDLP apologists believe that only their parties and the misfits that represent them in Parliament can save our country.
    No wonder that the we are now hearing about who is lesbian, who is gay, who got deep voice and so on. A few years ago we were hearing that” men must learn to take a horn “.
    This is the level we are at.
    Let me make it absolutely clear that i fully support the rights of all people to love whomever they choose to. I fully support same sex marriages.

    Its no wonder that Lowe is minister of garbage because he is extremely loyal to it whenever he chooses to speak.

  25. Sunshine Sunny Shine Avatar
    Sunshine Sunny Shine

    Vincent Haynes

    Thanks for highlighting the Barbados Today article on the Mottley proposal and the fact that her proposal came in for lashes. As I stated when I got that poster made concerning her, the facts that were presented by her might have been the presentation of an alternative, but in the final analysis of things, it was simply a bitter sweet on the basis that Barbadians have a view of their political representatives that do not paint very pretty pictures of them. She would do better to focus her campaign in a meaningful way on the need to reform and transform the way government has been conducting the people’s affairs. After all, it is well known fact that the BLP or the DLP have shown very little interest to none concerning the need for government operations to fall under stringent legislation that will make all politicians and their government operatives, accountable, transparent and answerable for anything that raises questions and widen eyeballs. Mottley is an enigma, but the puzzles of her past political life gives some indication of her intentions, and when closely examine are not all confident boosters.


  26. CANADA IS ENCOURAGING BARBADOS to change its stance on the criminalisation of same-sex relations and to engender greater tolerance of the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) communities.

    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/96897/-follow-canada#sthash.J46LUOR7.dpuf


  27. @William

    Surely no system is perfect. The key is to weigh the benefit of one over the other.

  28. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    @ David
    This is not about perfection. Its more like changing the name of a team but using the same players. The main reason our current system does not work as it should, has to do with the incestuous corruption of the BLPDLP. Our problem is that they have gotten away with so much bad governance that it has now become integral to their outlook.
    For example, if Mottley had all these ideas why after three terms there is not one resolution in her name that attempted to bring them to the fore . At one stage each of these parties has enjoyed a two third majority and either of them could have passed integrity legislation. We are simply fooling ourselves that they want to effectively change anything . The BLPDLP is about winning ELECTIONS nothing more , nothing less.
    Another example of how they cover each other: When the speaker was in his dilemna all the opposition had to do was boycott parliament until he was removed from the chair. That would have sent a clear message that they were not prepared to accept his chicanery. Good governance is not about covenants and sophistry. It is about example and sending clear messages to the public that it will not be tolerated.
    Guns, chicanery telling others to suck/kiss their mothers’ private parts are now part and parcel of the current BLPDLP legacy and we have jokers taking up half pages to defend the BLPDLP.
    They are hopeless.


  29. @William

    Agree with you that the duopoly culture that defines our politics has become institutionalized. The incestuous quality to which you referred is a characteristic of our small society. Any changes we propose must emphasize attracting quality people, zero tolerance enforcement, transparency.

  30. Vincent Haynes Avatar
    Vincent Haynes

    Sunshine Sunny Shine May 18, 2017 at 12:32 AM #

    From all indications the MAM led BLP will form the next govt. our way forward is to increase our pressure on the new administration to enact system change that will give a greater voice to the community by establishing local councils which will allow for the getting rid of statutory corps and the senate,reduce the parliamentarian numbers which will allow for a reduction in civil servants,create meaningfull laws that will allow for the dismissal of MPs for infractions and come up with a meaningfull plan(vision) based on community buy in to carry the country forward for the next 20-50 years.

    We have to deal with what we have and make it work for the benefit of the citizens of Bim.


  31. @Vincent

    Please define ‘pressure’. Isn’t this whaat we have done in all the elections? Isn’t this why many are calling begging the political class to release our democracy from the vice grip it holds? If we beg and beg and nothing gives there will be the inevitable.

  32. Vincent Haynes Avatar
    Vincent Haynes

    David

    We are on the same page,except to say that I have never seen/heard so many citizens actually taking time out to look at the actions of a govt and critique it……we must continue in this vein and not ease up on the new govt. until our needs are met.

  33. angela Skeete Avatar

    Chuckle berry everything u and the other blp yardfowls predicted that should cause chaos in the street has not happen. The social structure which is the staple and backbone of any economy remains in place. Hence your prediction of a Mam win is like a blindman chasing windmills.
    Unless the social fabric collapses Mia chances of winning would only be realised in a dream
    The constant calls for IMF intervention is a one way street to the collapse of the social enviroment which Mia knows that if pursue would increase her chances and a path which govt would not take.
    If Mia is serious about becoming PM her choices are limited in that she would have to offer solutions to the ailing economy and so far she has refused to state because of the political price to pay.

  34. Vincent Haynes Avatar
    Vincent Haynes

    The days of responding to operatives is over as is their time…….we will hear empty vessels making a hella of a lot of noise over the next 12 months to no avail…..this ending could have been so different if only they had listened.

  35. Frustrated Businessman: enact Facilitation Martial Law! Avatar
    Frustrated Businessman: enact Facilitation Martial Law!

    Vincent Haynes May 18, 2017 at 12:01 PM #
    ..this ending could have been so different if only they had listened.

    Never truer words typed on BU.

    Every change brings hope. Some have the skill to turn that hope into reality using the stored up enthusiasm and momentum that usually comes with it.

    Fumble’s Fools still can’t even find the keys to the gov’t desks they sit at. The rest of Barbados is still waiting but hope, enthusiasm and confidence has been squandered.

  36. Sunshine Sunny Shine Avatar
    Sunshine Sunny Shine

    Vincent Haynes

    I do not believe Mottley have the integrity to take Barbados forward without the practice of skulduggery, either by her or certain members in her party. In her line up are some real nasty pieces of work all pretending now to love country, and love people, who think that all Barbadians will forget the shite they did during time in government.

  37. Vincent Haynes Avatar
    Vincent Haynes

    Sunshine Sunny Shine May 18, 2017 at 3:59 PM #

    Hence my call for eternal vigilance and civic pressure which must not be allowed to go silent after a new govt is elected irregardless of who it is.

    We must face some harsh realities…..it is my opinion that out of all the team leaders presented to date,she is the most suited to inspire confidence in the electorate, investors and work out a recovery package for the country and her team is aware of that.

    Her biggest test will be her ability to handle her team,which will come sooner rather than later.

  38. Bernard Codrington. Avatar
    Bernard Codrington.

    @ Bush Tea May 17 9 :23 PM

    You would make a poor brassier . You do not keep abreast of the times. Most modern buses do not need conductors. Certainly not the type of buses I referenced. And just because the mechanic who certified the road worthiness of the bus subscribes to the philosophy of Kant, It does not make the passengers Kantians , brass bowls nor empty vessels. Trust me they know where they want to go and who is capable of taking them there.

  39. Sunshine Sunny Shine Avatar
    Sunshine Sunny Shine

    Vincent Haynes

    Using what guage have you drawn the conclusion that she is the best team leader of all the team leaders to date? I will admit that Mottley has an arsenal of past leadership styles, good or bad to draw from and wealth of experience gained along the way. We all know that she is articulate but does she have the integrity and the moral pulse to do what is right? Will she see the Auditor General reports for what they are i.e. wastage, a lot thiefing, collusions and deal settings? Will she morally make the step that all others chose not to make and do something about the ease at which tax payers dollars enrich the lives of politicians and those working on behalf of politicians by implementing the legislation necessary to stop the exploitation. Mottley might show some morality in the early stages but a rogue is still rogue.


  40. @ Bernard May 18, 2017 at 11.00PM
    You are correct about the brassier…. Bushie is always AHEAD of the times…

    As to “Trust me they know where they want to go and who is capable of taking them there.”, all Bushie will say in response is …

    Ha ha ha ha / LOL / Wuhloss ….
    Boss..
    Shout Bushie when you awake from your daydreams….

  41. Vincent Haynes Avatar
    Vincent Haynes

    Sunshine Sunny Shine May 19, 2017 at 6:43 AM #

    You have answered your own question…..we are agreed on the fact that she has been trained and has all the tools required to carry the country forward.

    I do not deal with morality as it is a nebulous and esotheric concept.

    ….what I keep saying and harping on is that we need is an awake populace that will express themselves vociferously by all legal means on issues that they object to.

    ….that is the only language the political class understands as it translates into votes and the ability to govern.

    ….once we understand that we can stop talking about right,wrong,moral suasion,the christian way etc,etc,etc

  42. angela Skeete Avatar

    Some one said on the House of Parliament in reference to Mottley that a devil dress in white is still a devil

  43. Sunshine Sunny Shine Avatar
    Sunshine Sunny Shine

    Vincent Haynes

    The facts are the facts. She has all that she needs before her disposal to be a very good Prime Minister. However, does she want to be a good Prime Minister. Is there no other evidence besides the fact that she talks good and negotiates well that would prove her worth? You might be persuaded concerning what you want to believe about her but I know enough that tells me different.

  44. Vincent Haynes Avatar
    Vincent Haynes

    Sunshine Sunny Shine May 19, 2017 at 1:14 PM #

    We do not differ on the facts and I have answered your question re ensuring acceptable governance.

    This is not about liking or being persuaded,its all about the populi making sure that whoever comes on board is kept on the straight and narrow by eternal vigilance and a willingness to be legally militant.

  45. Sunshine Sunny Shine Avatar
    Sunshine Sunny Shine

    Vincent Haynes

    It would be good to know who is going to keep them on the straight and narrow. The PAC, the police, the senate, who will DEMWILL?

  46. Vincent Haynes Avatar
    Vincent Haynes

    Sunshine Sunny Shine May 20, 2017 at 12:12 AM #

    A chain is as strong as its weakest link.

    The PEOPLE…..are who will…..a country is run for the benefit of its people,by its people.

    We seem not to understand the tool that we hold called civil disobedience of a peacefull nature……we need to use it instead of a load of ole talk whenever a govt is not acting in accordance to our wishes i.e. promises made on the stump.

    Action speaks louder than words and removes the need to go through the 5 yearly…. will they….or will they not….exercise because we know the will.

    Are we at this stage yet?….no…..thats why we need to work towards it as opposed to looking for the myth of some knight in shining armour to lead us to the promised land…..capiche.


  47. What does the lack in governance issues by Barbadians tell you?

  48. Vincent Haynes Avatar
    Vincent Haynes

    David

    Simple……Barbadians lack direction……hence killings,gunplay,school fights,corruption,etc,etc

    The book of myths tells you ….the devil finds work for idle hands….

    We need to galvanise the country behind a doable/achievable goal over the next 10 years,the foundation of that goal will be an immediate change of the education system a la Finland…we need thinking doing minds…..not sponges that love to talk.


  49. Do not expect political aspirants to change anything if the majority of people are not interested or educated to understand, it is a popularity contest after all.

  50. Vincent Haynes Avatar
    Vincent Haynes

    David

    Correct….hence the need to wake them up as nothing can be achieved without their input.

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