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Grenville Phillips II, leader of Solutions Barbados

On 21 April 2017, I attended a public meeting by the Barbados Private Sector Association and was disappointed by their austerity-based solutions to Barbadosโ€™ dire economic situation.ย  The Government, private sector merchants, financial institutions and individual economists are warning us to brace for austerity.ย  Eight years ago, austerity meant forcing most Barbadians to access their savings in order to survive.ย  Today, it means to force most Barbadians into poverty.

Approximately 2 years ago, Solutions Barbados published a plan to bring Barbados back from the brink of economic ruin without the austerity promised by others.ย  The plan is based on proven solutions and is still relevant.ย  However, the Government continues to ignore this plan while stubbornly pursuing its strategy; while the IMF warns of devaluation.

We have shared our plan with anyone who will listen, including the NUPW and CTUSAB.ย  It was also published in both print and on-line news media, and also on the radio.ย  To-date, the responses have been overwhelmingly positive, because the plans are workable.ย  The published plan consists of 4 main steps โ€“ none of which require laying-off civil servants, reducing their wages, incurring additional Government spending, or begging other countries to lend us money.

Step 1 is to increase Governmentโ€™s local currency revenues to run the Government and pay local currency debts.ย  This can be done by reducing taxes on personal and corporate revenues to 10% of gross revenues โ€“ with no deductions.ย  This will make taxes easier to calculate, pay and audit.ย  It is also fairer.

Currently, businesses pay taxes on net-profits.ย  Therefore, it is possible to run a successful business for decades without paying any corporate taxes.ย  However, since the Government must obtain revenue, the taxes that such businesses currently legally avoid paying are extracted from the rest of us.ย  Well, not under a Solutions Barbados administration.

To facilitate the prompt payment of all taxes, all taxes previously owed to all Government departments will be forgiven and VAT will be abolished.ย  Businesses are currently being forced to pay VAT when they issue an invoice, rather than when they receive payment.ย  This is unfair, because businesses may not get their invoices paid until months later โ€“ or never.ย  Taxing businesses before they receive payment is an insidious method of taxation that can both prevent businesses from growing, and reduce their competitiveness.

The forgiveness of debts to Government should have happened as part of our 50th anniversary jubilee celebrations.ย  However, only a few select persons benefitted financially from those celebrations.ย  Therefore, everyone will start with a โ€˜clean slateโ€™.ย  In exchange, all new non-payment of taxes will attract a penalty of 10 times the value of the outstanding amount for those who blatantly refuse to pay.ย  Those who refuse to pay taxes under a Solutions Barbados administration will be competing unfairly in our economy, and that will not be encouraged.

Step 2 is to increase foreign currency revenues in order to pay for imports and foreign currency debts.ย  This can be done by temporarily reducing taxes on all foreign currency earnings to zero.

Step 3 is to increase productivity in both the public and private sectors, and reduce wastage and unnecessary costs in the public sector.ย  This can be done by managing all public services to the ISO 9001 Quality Management System.ย  Parts of the ISO 9001 system can be implemented across the entire public service immediately, to the benefit (and relief) of those who deliver and receive Government services โ€“ at no additional cost to Government.

One low hanging wastage fruit is to stop public workers from paying income taxes.ย  Currently, the private sector must pay additional taxes, which are then given to public sector workers, who then give it to the Government.ย  The accounting bureaucracy and costs required to manage the taxation of the estimated 25,000 public workers can be easily avoided.

Step 4 is to depoliticize the public service.ย  In a Solutions Barbados administration, public workers will be selected and promoted on merit alone.

Any of these steps taken by themselves will not pull Barbados back from the brink, because frustrated public services can frustrate the entire process.ย  Therefore, they must all be taken together.ย  We need an increase in local and foreign currency revenues, and a better managed and depoliticized public service.ย  The Minister of Finance is strongly advised to examine our plan before we run out of viable options.ย  We continue to be available to discuss it.

Grenville Phillips II is the founder of Solutions Barbados and can be reached at NextParty246@gmail.com

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314 responses to “The Grenville Phillips Column – The Alternative to Austerity”

  1. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Branson is giving them a message, let’s hope they heed it, lying to, deceiving and selling out the people is not leadong.

    “Sir Richard Branson, the man behind the global Virgin brand of more than 400 companies and 80 000 employees, is rooting for the country to make a turnaround, but he said leadership was going to be a key determinant in any recovery. Insisting he was not making a political statement, Sir Richard told the DAILY NATION: โ€œIf you are a good leader and you can bring people along with you, you can enjoy the good times and you can work with people in getting through the bad times; being honest with them and explaining what has to be done and making sure you lead by example; making sure they respect you and that you show integrity.โ€ (GE) Please read the full story in todayโ€™s Daily Nation, or in the eNATION edition. – See more at: http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/96437/billionaire-backs-bim#sthash.NWn2uCJ7.dpuf

  2. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Why government keeps stubbornly holding on to a system of taxation that is clearly not working is a mystery…if ot no longer works, get rid of it.

  3. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    https://www.barbadostoday.bb/2017/05/03/poor-leadership-in-the-region-stifling-progress/

    Dont care how the governments try to run sround it and dance around it, this is the real problem destroying any progress in the islands, poor leadership, we been saying that on the blogs for years and got cussed by insignificant yardfowls, now maybe politicians and ministers will believe it now that it has come out of the mouths of billionaire Branson and venture capitalist Hilton-Clarke……

    ………if governments will stop and insulting and disrespecting the majority populations intelligence and stop trying to continue stifling their opinions, even after 50 years of independence, treat them like people and understand that without the people’s votes they cannot elevate themselves to the status of leaders, srart respecting every voter and not treat them as uneducated slaves or stepping stones to be used, misused and abused to enrich government ministers, their friends, family and a minority population………progress can be achieved.

    See for yaselves….yardfowls can stay off this link today, lurk and observe only, it’s well above ya intelligence, pay grade and will only serve to further confuse you.

    “Poor leadership in the region stifling progress
    Added by Marlon Madden on May 3, 2017.
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    The state of leadership in Barbados and the region is poor.

    That was the conclusion of venture capitalist Scott Hilton-Clarke, the founder and chief executive officer of Inspiration Laboratories, a firm focused on international business development.

    Hilton-Clarke told the Virgin Group-led Business is an Adventure leadership conference at the Hilton Barbados Resort this morning that a recent survey by his management consulting firm had found that employees were screaming out for good leadership.

    โ€œIf I were asked to write a tragedy on the state of leadership, I would focus on development. This area was actually quite sad because as I read the comments and feedback, people are clamouring to be developed and they are being denied, and frankly we are not developing our people appropriately,โ€ he said, adding that โ€œmore depressingโ€, was that many of those surveyed said they were not privy to training opportunities.

    Hilton-Clarke said too often leaders had a โ€œmy way or the highway mentalityโ€, which was stifling good leadership.”

  4. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    “High time!
    Sir Richard Branson joins calls to decriminalize marijuana

    Added by Marlon Madden on May 3, 2017.
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    One of the most powerful voices in international travel has entered the debate on one of the most controversial issues here โ€“ that of the decriminalization of marijuana.

    The founder of the Virgin Group, which includes Virgin Atlantic, Sir Richard Branson today threw his support behind those calling for the use of small amounts of cannabis to be made legal.

    Speaking at the Business is an Adventure leadership conference at the Hilton Barbados Resort Sir Richard said the fight against drug use globally had been โ€œan abject failure for the last 60 yearsโ€, and the authorities here should consider treating the issue as a health matter, not a criminal one.”

    The governments in Barbados refuse to listen to the people, their employers, maybe they will listen to Branson.

  5. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger May 4, 2017 at 5:33 AM
    “The governments in Barbados refuse to listen to the people, their employers, maybe they will listen to Branson.”

    So it takes a man (with no university level education) from the same colonial mother country so decried by the albino haters like Bushie to tell your government what has been preached for so long on BU by those with the maverick minds.

    Oh what life in the tropics!

    Where are our โ€œacsโ€ on this recommendation from the great white business guru?
    Alvin Cummins, the quacking duck, where are you hiding in the yard?

    Your weathercock is missing you.


  6. Oh because this british billionaire said something you like he has to be listened to , but when the american billionaire says something you go on and on about it in a negative way. Trump doesnt drink or do drugs, carry a SIR before his name has shorter hair yet you cant keep from help attacking him. You seem to like reading how I made a fortune my way rather than the art of the deal . Your french lover was born with a spoon in his mouth as well. likes the herb too.

  7. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Lawson…I am well aware Branson probably stopped going to school from 2nd grade or there abouts, but he is articulate, intelligent, a real, real billionaire with no swamp following him, even if his weakyhy lawyer father gave him hus start, I never heard he opened a fraud university or grabbed any woman by her pus*y, or stole money from already struggling curtain makers or caterers, people he hired or that he has a patent for telling lies.

    It’s a nobrainer…..if Branson was cuter, he may look like Justin to me, but ya cant have everything…lol

    You can stick with ya lowlife boyfriend trump, but I like real people, so he and Justin smoke herb, trump should try it instead of blowing up his nose and brains with coke..

  8. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Miller…Let’s wait for the yardfowls, they will come.

  9. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Lawson….even if Branson’s wealthy lawyer father gave him his start or maryjane bought that Nekker island in the 70s….so what…ah live real entrepreneurial spirit.

  10. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    But Miller, really, Branson’s story should tell the goats of parliament all they need to know about the british fraud system they have marinated themselves in, intellectually incapable and refuse to extricate themselves from and which they have no control.

  11. Frustrated Businessman: enact Facilitation Martial Law! Avatar
    Frustrated Businessman: enact Facilitation Martial Law!

    You have missed a very important immediate requirement: the gov’t divestment of any company currently providing products or services in competition with the tax-paying private sector.

    Gov’t currently competes unfairly and inefficiently against the very people it depends on for tax revenue.

    No more road works, hotel operation, Transport Board, CBC, NHC etc. CORRUPT MONEY PITS EMPLOYING YARD FOWLS!

    THE PURPOSE OF GOVERNMENT IS TO LEGISLATE, REGULATE AND FACILITATE, NOT OPERATE!

    There you go, another T-shirt opportunity for someone to go along with:

    THERE WILL BE NO ECONOMIC RECOVERY UNDER FUMBLE’S FOOLS!


  12. Solutions Barbados as a political party vying to govern Barbados the proposals Grenville has tabled merit discussion. Look forward to reading the analysis.


  13. โ€œStep 1 is to increase Governmentโ€™s local currency revenues to run the Government and pay local currency debts. This can be done by reducing taxes on personal and corporate revenues to 10% of gross revenues โ€“ with no deductions. This will make taxes easier to calculate, pay and audit. It is also fairer.โ€

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    If โ€œpersonal revenueโ€ means earnings, then taxes are CURRENTLY deducted from the GROSS salary and wages of those earning more than $25,000 per annum.

    However, government is likely to earn more tax revenue if the corporation tax rate is reduced to 10% on gross revenue.

    Perhaps SB should explain how reducing taxes on personal revenues to 10% increase revenue, when the number of households currently paying taxes remains the same. Unless the minimum threshold for taxable income is reduced from $25,000 per annum, thereby ensuring more people are โ€œcaught in the tax net,โ€ especially self employed persons who do not file income tax returns or pay taxes, but benefit from state provided goods and services. And this group includes doctors, lawyers and other professionals.

    The BRA was established to improve the efficiency of the tax system, but continues to operate similarly to the days of Inland Revenue, with many of the inefficient employees from that department and new employees who do not have any formal knowledge or training in taxation. Hence, the status quo remains the same.


  14. Grenville will never be elected.

    His positions makes far too much sense, and worse, they do not pander to the whims of brass bowl lackies who are just looking for quick handouts….
    This, apparently, is the point being made over and over by the Dribbler … namely, that in order to ‘win’, Solutions Barbados should get with the program and start promising sweets to all and sundry….

    @ Frustrated B
    What Grenville missed is the details of how he will “depoliticize the public service”, ..that is, on his ‘meritocracy’ …. when Bajans are focused on ‘mendicancy’. But like any doctor knows, in order to save a very sick patient, it often is necessary to make him unconscious and to perform radical surgery…. and we know that some patients would rather die if this process is explained in detail…

    On the question of Government competing “unfairly and inefficiently against the very people it depends on for tax revenue”, you are wrong….
    This became necessary when it became clear that businessmen were ganging together to fleece the public with THEIR OWN inefficient and CROOKED schemes. (If you want examples let the bushman know…)
    The problem only comes where government ITSELF then fell into the trap of doing the same shiite…….A true MERITOCRACY will solve both problems.

  15. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    A complete overhaul and restart of the system is due, it would be no different from austerity IMF style, short term pain, but with much better results, the island would not be as indebted…, read Norway, Bolivia and a few others.

    The island and economy are much too small, vulnerable and resourceless for the IMF dog and pony show…look what happened to Jamaica.


  16. @ Artax
    As you well know, many people in high tax brackets hardly pay any taxes. The rules are always written in such a way that such persons can find ways around paying.
    Trump is the ultimate case in point.

    EVERYONE above the age of 21 who is not an official student or registered ward of the state, should be making a tax contribution to their society in the order of 10%. A flat tax on earnings with no possibility of ANY deductions.
    What does it say about the value of those strong healthy citizens who are ‘exempted by small salaries’? ….are they defined as ‘mendicants’ by the state?

    Then there should be a sales tax that ranges from nothing on basic items all the way up to 500% on luxury items.

    Only a simple minded moron (who probably do not understand decimals) would think that by increasing tax rates, more taxes will be collected. People just find more creative ways to avoid paying ….or just simply do not pay. (especially when the idiots in charge cannot do one shiite about it anyway.

    Grenville is right.


  17. @Bush Tea

    The challenge for the new third parties that want to stick to the isissues is that the masses will continue to be swayed/influenced by those schooled in the art of Machiavellian doctrine. For example, hear Esther Byer-Suckoo in the Senate yesterday stoking the fear of public servants losing their jobs if the vote for another party. This election will not be won based on the issues -unfortunately.


  18. David
    Analysis of a fairy tale?

  19. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Artax May 4, 2017 at 7:40 AM

    That 10% across-the board tax on all income earners with no deductions is not a new proposal. A similar proposal was previously floated on BU which Grenville might have genuinely taken on board in designing his โ€œSolutions Barbadosโ€ governance model and management system for the public sector.

    Another massive challenge Grenville and his SB 246 next party would have to confront is one of compliance and enforcement in incestuous Barbados.

    Why is it so difficult today to collect the tax due on that $3.3 million taken from CLICO policyholders and paid in via a laundry machine owned by a dead political heavyweight to Greenverbs a self-confessed millionaire? Is it because he wears the right political colours around his crooked neck?

    The major drawback to โ€œGrenvilleโ€™sโ€ tax system proposal is that it could put a lot of accountants and corporate lawyers out of business (including you too Artax, Lol!!).

    ICT would put the final nail in that dark dirty world of sophisticated bilking of the national treasury called tax planning.

    Whichever alternative tax model is proposed it must take into account low income earners and pensioners on fixed incomes. A standard deduction applicable to all income earners before the tax standard levy becomes applicable must be seriously considered, even if only for the pensioners.


  20. Grenville’s proposal looks great.

    Now can he show it works .

    eg How much money would be collected and how much would be spent to make his tax

    plan work ?

  21. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    Mr Bushman, please do yourself the justice of assigning accurate interpretations to other blogger!

    It is wrongheaded times 10 to suggest that “This… is the point being made over and over by the Dribbler โ€ฆ namely, that in order to โ€˜winโ€™, Solutions Barbados should get with the program and start promising sweets to all and sundryโ€ฆ.”.

    Actually, Grenville is already offering ‘sweets’ to all and sundry. What exactly do you think his tax policy for a 10% flat tax is other than that!!!

    This Solutions debate needs to move past bluster and ‘the Grenville is a nice guy’ or “his positions makes far too much sense” and deal in REALITY.

    That sir is all I prosecute with Solutions or any other aspirants.

    I do not want young Phillips to get with any standard political program of pandering to the electorate…..BUT I have asked REPEATEDLY that he get with a program of actually RESPONDING to the bread and butter issues that resonate with the electorate and that are needed to drive him to victory.

    Specifically I have noted that his ISO 9000 remarks do not meet that standard.

    His tax policy prescription is supply-side economics in simple jargon. Any student of politics knows how that drove the US economy under Reagan but also how it exploded the US deficit and thus created other issues for successive administrations.

    So to the Blogmaster’s point that “… the proposals Grenville has tabled merit discussion” let’s stop talking around these intellectual positions by Grenville and get him to put facts and details to support his theses.

    What are the 5 year ,10 year and 20 year projections for tax revenue based on his 10% rate on Gross revenue. (Does he mean revenue or gross profits??)
    What are those projections for the abolition of VAT and the ‘forgivence’ on all past due taxes?
    How will he then enforce the collection of that 10X penalty for non-payment of the new taxes?
    On what economic basis is the logic framed that a zero tax rate on foreign currency earnings will see an increase in foreign currency revenue???

    Is he actually saying that the tax incidence on those forex earnings are retarding businesses from generating more opportunities? What exactly is he suggesting here??

    How does the comprehensive reduction in employment when ” the … estimated 25,000 public workers” of the tax dept. are sent home fully or in part positively affect our economic growth?

    Can Grenville provide some statistics to give guidance on these policy prescriptions.

    Or maybe you Mr Bushman with your vast experience in Gov’t and business can offer some solid seat of pants calculations… After-all you do consider his ideas as quite sensible and practical.


  22. Grenville presents a plan to develop Barbados, not a castle in the air aka manifesto.

  23. CUP Violet Beckles Plantation Deeds from 1926-2017 land tax bills and no Deeds,BLPand DLP Massive land Fruad and PONZ Avatar
    CUP Violet Beckles Plantation Deeds from 1926-2017 land tax bills and no Deeds,BLPand DLP Massive land Fruad and PONZ

    Once Again you can not Manage Fraud and PONZI , it must be cleaned up, You can not have a plan that will work , You can not hide from true and facts, You can not keep talking building on dog shit, You need a firm footing, VAT by way of Mia and Owen was based on fraud , It is not used for what it was intended, Your plan might work its the nation was not based on a massive land Fraud, Maybe you need to check your title deed back the Plantation to see where all things when wrong, If you don’t wake up soon you will show the Nation of Barbados that You are part of the problem, and have not a clue about truth, People are trying to tell you what is what here on BU, maybe you need to hold a meeting with your group and put my words on the table before you are ambushed. How do you avoid an ambush, how do you get out of an ambush?

    We will be taking no prisonors for they cost too much to feed and we can not release them for the rat us out, So they must be dropped where they stand,

    Don’t let me find out that you are slow, waking up 2 years ago when CUP found out the truth in 2007, looking to give PM David a chance in 2008 dead in 2010, Then telling the NEWS that was blocked on our intentions to run in 2012, once again You are late 2015? what happen to 2013 as you waited for MIA and Owen to feed your companies again with trespass land and more VAT fraud money that was to go to the UDC and NHC fraud VAT and TAX laundering DBLP companies money into your company pockets. Now you will see the truth stop telling DBLP lies , You are part of the problem in Barbados,

    Vote CUP for All thing By Rule of Law and Clear Title ,Who need to be in Jail will get there Who need to be freed will go home.


  24. @ David

    No disrespect intended, but although I understand the purpose of your comment re: โ€œEsther Byer-Suckoo in the Senate yesterday stoking the fear of public servants losing their jobs if the vote for another party,โ€ perhaps should have given different example.

    Recall prior to the February 2013 elections, Stuart was adamant that government was not going to lay-off public sector employees.

    And subsequently, during his ministerial statement of December 16, 2013, Sinckler revealed that government was planning to retrench 3,000 public sector employees.

    Is Esther suggesting Barbadians are stupid enough to fall for that trick a second time, especially under similar circumstances where the IMF recommended a decrease in the public sector prior to 2013, and holds the same position now, even after the 2014 retrenchments?

  25. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Bush Tea May 4, 2017 at 7:50 AM
    โ€œGrenville will never be elected.
    His positions makes far too much sense, and worse, they do not pander to the whims of brass bowl lackies who are just looking for quick handoutsโ€ฆ.โ€

    Are you suggesting Grenville’s proposed solutions can only be implemented in a dictatorship?

    Isn’t that the same kind of โ€˜undemocraticโ€™ environment in which your 10 point BUP plan would flourish and your imaginary BBE saying โ€˜well done, my good and faithful servantโ€™?

  26. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @Artax May 4, 2017 at 9:39 AM
    โ€œIs Esther suggesting Barbadians are stupid enough to fall for that trick a second time, especially under similar circumstances where the IMF recommended a decrease in the public sector prior to 2013, and holds the same position now, even after the 2014 retrenchments?โ€

    So why do you think Bushie has given them the apt title of BBBB’s (Black Bajan Brass Bowls)?

    The sorrowfully sad thing about that inevitable situation is that the Opposition will be browbeaten (again) as it was with the 10,000 layoffs resulting from Privatization and making pensioners pay on the TB buses.

    Machiavellian-type politics seems not to be on the curriculum at the Roebuck Street academy.

  27. Vincent Haynes Avatar
    Vincent Haynes

    It looks as if Solutions is assuming taking over the country after the hard work has been done i.e. the massive debt repayments we were told about around june this year when the govt either restructures it debt profile at extortionate rates or goes to the IMF for a better deal.

    Whichever way…..by the time he comes to power the goal posts would have shifted drastically and he would have to rethink his plan……..better for him to have a vision addressing the priority areas in detail for the next 10-15 years.

    His step#1 re taxes….my understanding has always been that VAT would take over from all taxes except income and property,with both of these having their taxable barriers raised on a regular basis to protect the low income earner and the pensioner…….whats wrong with this?


  28. A letter to the Honourable PJ Stuart

    Dear PM Stuart,
    If you are a good leader and you can bring people along with you,you can enjoy the good times and you can work with people in getting through the bad times.Being honest with them and explaining what has to be done and making sure you lead by example,making sure they respect you and that you show integrity.
    A friend of Barbados
    Richard


  29. We are not surprised that nobody has noticed this so-called plan.

    For it is a childish, incoherent, unsophisticated, injection into national discourse

    There is no criticality there.

    None of the problems in Barbados are susceptible to a misguided corporatism at the centre of government. Every point listed will make things far worse!

    SB seems intent on a deepening fascism

    That has always been happening, was always one of the central problems, and for SB to suggest a more pernicious control by elite business people is a crass attempt to pleasure the corporate dictators who Grenville Phillips, like his father, has always served selflessly.

    We hold no respect for business people who can only succeed, survive, based on government largesse, social welfarism.

  30. Frustrated Businessman: enact Facilitation Martial Law! Avatar
    Frustrated Businessman: enact Facilitation Martial Law!

    Vincent Haynes May 4, 2017 at 10:00 AM #

    His step#1 re taxesโ€ฆ.my understanding has always been that VAT would take over from all taxes except income and property,with both of these having their taxable barriers raised on a regular basis to protect the low income earner and the pensionerโ€ฆโ€ฆ.whats wrong with this?

    VAT is the only fair tax. You pay to consume. If you choose not to consume, your money sits on deposit in banks and corporations being used by people who consume where the free market should take care of interest rates. There is no negative outcome either way.

    VAT should be 25% on all items (except those purchased in ForEx if we don’t shut down the Central Bank) and no other taxes charged whatsoever.

    Our main VAT problem, as Grenville correctly identified, is how we pay and are refunded VAT. An easy enough issue to solve.

  31. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    This article is a clearer explication of SB’s fiscal plan than appears on their website. I see now that I had misunderstood their intent when I read the website months ago. It is much clearer to use the terminology “gross revenue” in relation to corporate taxation than how they worded it on the website.

    It would help to explicitly explain that the increase from 0% to 10% in the income tax that low income people pay will be more than offset by the reduction in consumption tax from 17.5% to 0%.

    We should run the numbers in a credible economic model to see how much revenue this would raise.


  32. @ Dribbler
    The problem with arguing with you about what Grenville is trying to say, is that Grenville is an exceptionally intelligent engineer…. (albeit not of the “Big Boss’ variety)… while you are a luke-warm, ‘neither-here-or-there’, pedantic, blogger with no skin in the game …living in albino land, under albino rules and happy to thrive off the scraps available there.

    With respect to the 10% flat tax, how many people working for $20,000 per month ACTUALLY pays more than $24,000 in taxes per year after deductions and exemptions?
    How many people who now pay no taxes at all, would be getting ‘sweets’ if required to pay 10% of their $1200 per month salary?

    Even Trump would pay taxes if the calculation was a simple flat rate on gross income…. and only a pedantic dribbler would see such an imposition as ‘sweets’.

    @ Miller 9.44AM
    Your post is a lotta shiite….
    Read it again and see…
    Some days you seem to put your glasses on backwards….

  33. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    I see Francis Chandler is agreeing with Commisiong re the Hyatt monstrosity not being suitable for that particulsr site, maybe the ministers are waiting for a white or blue billionaire to tell them the same thing, maybe then they will believe that their stupidity will destroy the fragile shoreline, in their haste to enable, collude with bow and scrape to the crook Maloney.


  34. @ Frustrated B
    VAT should be 25% on all items (except those purchased in ForEx if we donโ€™t shut down the Central Bank) and no other taxes charged whatsoever.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Agreed, …except that even those who choose not to consume (and hence pay no VAT) still need to use common services such as roads, sanitation etc.
    ….and still owes a social duty to support the less fortunate among us via social nets etc.

    Thus a 10% flat tax on EVERYONE….

  35. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @de pedantic Dribbler said “His tax policy prescription is supply-side economics in simple jargon.”

    This tax policy is NOT simple supply side economics. I got into an argument with Grenville on BU a few months ago and accused him of this too, but this explanation makes it clear to me that he is proposing something different. The key point is in corporate taxation: he proposes to tax “gross revenue” rather than profits. This makes an enormous difference.

    Let’s take a look at a case study, Signia Financial Group because their 2016 financial statement happens to be lying about my messy living room in last Saturday’s paper. Under the current tax regime they payed $1.1 million in corporation taxes on $4.8 million in profits. Under Grenville’s proposal they would pay $1.97 million on $19.7 million in gross revenue. This 80% increase in corporate tax is non trivial.


  36. Taxes payable are estimated in the cost of goods sold.Seems logical to me.Pay on total revenue.


  37. Listening to Dr Justin Robertson explaining why there was no increase in the fees for the faculty of medicine(incidentally Robertson ought to know the word is pronounced ‘medsun’) I posit that the faculty of law should be a full fee paying faculty also,even more so than medicine.


  38. Flat taxes are only spoken about by flat-earth, denialists

    Such taxes have long been regarded as regressive

    Meaning that 10% of a woman’s wage of 150 dollars is more onerous than 10% of a man’s wage of 150,000 dollars.

    We guess it’s time for the long-forgotten old-time economic religion.


  39. Gabriel May 4, 2017 at 11:01 AM #

    Would you mind explaining your following comments:

    โ€œTaxes payable are estimated in the cost of goods sold. Seems logical to me. Pay on total revenue.โ€


  40. With the proliferation of foreign companies in Barbados and the requirement to remit management fees to parent, some recognition should be given to those foreign companies that plough back NIBT into the local economy. The benefit, the opportunity cost in the savings of forex makes it a nobrainer.

  41. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    What happens to duties? are they being abolished as well.

    Without expenditure deduction, this suggests employment (an expense) would be cut to the bare minimum.

    It also affects goods which typically use a 2 step process more, as there is tax on the revenue of both sellers. The effective tax rate will be higher than 10%.

    What is the incentive to invest?

    The challenge with any revenue collection system, is COLLECTING. The proposed penalties are severe. The incentive is to “hide sales” (revenue) because that becomes the sole source of taxation.

    Isn’t it easier to concentrate the revenue collection at a single source (point of entry/manufacture) and then abolish all taxation beyond that? Then you don’t have to worry about taxation at all.


  42. Artax
    My assumption is that the profit margin should include recovery of the total cost of doing business.

  43. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @Northern Observer said “affects goods which typically use a 2 step process more, as there is tax on the revenue of both sellers. The effective tax rate will be higher than 10%”

    That is the point of taxing the top line rather than the bottom line… it allows you to lower the tax rate, but still generate public revenue to pay for education, hospital, police etc.

  44. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Bush Tea May 4, 2017 at 10:41 AM

    Bushie, the Truth (and its twin, Reality) hurts doesn’t it?

    The miller only puts on his glasses backwards when he is looking at you escaping down the rabbit hole trying to find an Alice in Wonderland.

    Isn’t Grenville just like dictatorial you with your 10 point plan to bring your BBE’s heaven to earth via the guinea pig place called Barbados the only paradise in the making?

    How else would Grenville implement his proposals without imposing his will on your brass-bowl masses and eliminating in true Stalinist fashion all those are deemed enemies of his state of perfection?

  45. Vincent Haynes Avatar
    Vincent Haynes

    BRA has extended their payment amnesty, claiming that they had such a good response.

    I wonder how true that is,as normally once you have raked in a good set of monies you shut the door.

  46. Frustrated Businessman: enact Facilitation Martial Law! Avatar
    Frustrated Businessman: enact Facilitation Martial Law!

    Bush Tea May 4, 2017 at 10:47 AM #
    @ Frustrated B
    VAT should be 25% on all items (except those purchased in ForEx if we donโ€™t shut down the Central Bank) and no other taxes charged whatsoever.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Agreed, โ€ฆexcept that even those who choose not to consume (and hence pay no VAT) still need to use common services such as roads, sanitation etc.
    โ€ฆ.and still owes a social duty to support the less fortunate among us via social nets etc.

    Thus a 10% flat tax on EVERYONEโ€ฆ.

    Maybe……….. I might be swayed if the ‘everyone’ included the legal individuals which are corporations. Consumption is essential to the world economy and corporations don’t consume; they employ people who consume.

    The fundamental tax reform we need is the abandonment of all import duties, taxes levies and the institutions needed to operate them. Bajans need a less cumbersome system to start their own businesses, especially small-scale manufacturing.

  47. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    @PLT
    I understand the flow through, but if you owned a business in multiple layers, how would you avoid this? If I am Massy don’t I use a single corporation? It means their retail division has a 10% tax advantage over the smaller retailers?

    What happens if somebody pushes a division “off shore” such that sales are recorded there?

  48. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    “The fundamental tax reform we need is the abandonment of all import duties, taxes levies and the institutions needed to operate them. Bajans need a less cumbersome system to start their own businesses, especially small-scale manufacturing”

    Why not push all the tax collection to the point of entry. Easier to control. Manufacturing imputs get refunds. No income tax. No VAT.


  49. @ Pachamama May 4, 2017 at 11:12 AM

    LOL…
    In your haste to condemn the Bible, you would even want to disregard ‘LOVE’ itself as an albino-centric trick to weaken the vulnerable among us… But try as you may, you will always be confronted with the brilliant logic of that document.

    There is not one shiite wrong with a SIMPLE flat tax that is used for the common good. …and 10% is as good a number as any other.

    That it is applied to EVERYONE, … is not so much a means of raising revenue, as it is a signal to ALL citizens that THEY are ALL making a contribution to the common societal good. Even beggars should be required to contribute their fair share…

    …You may note the COMMUNITY-CENTRIC focus of such a policy.

    Of COURSE, as Frustrated B indicated, it would apply to EACH AND EVERY corporation.
    As it is now, these ‘corporations’ are largely legal devices that are used to HIDE assets from taxation in their albino-centric drive to extract resources FROM society into their selfish accounts.
    Everyone (who is anyone) knows that these corporate vultures create these other sub and/or supra entities in their efforts to divert funds that would otherwise be profits – and hence be taxable.

    By taxing gross INCOME (as PLT explains) this loophole is closed – allowing the rates to fall as EVERYONE contributes their fair share… including the Trumps of this world.

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