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Jeff Cumberbatch - Columnist, Barbados Advocate
Jeff Cumberbatch – Columnist, Barbados Advocate

โ€œA successful president need not have a degree in constitutional law. But he should understand the Constitutionโ€™s grant of executive power.โ€ โ€œHe should share Hamiltonโ€™s vision of an energetic president leading the executive branch in a unified direction, rather than viewing the government as the enemy. He should realize that the Constitution channels the president toward protecting the nation from foreign threats, while cooperating with Congress on matters at home.โ€ –James Yoo, University of California (Berkeley)

I feel almost a sense of compulsion to apologize to readers of the Barbados Advocate for returning for a second week to a commentary on the any matter associated with the neโ€™er-do-well Trump presidency in the US. This is even more keenly felt when locally there is much fodder for a columnist; last weekโ€™s launching of what claims hopefully to be a third political way; an unseemly public disagreement between Board and Governor at the Central Bank; and an overdue determination from the Prime Minister as to the viability of the controversial Bridgetown Hyatt project However, todayโ€™s effort is concerned only tangentially with what is swiftly morphing into a U S kakistocracy and pertains rather to the ongoing battle between the Trump administration and the courts for the constitutional governance of the republic.

A few columns back, I had tentatively advanced the thesis that President Trump, having been abandoned by some of the leading lights of the Republican party under whose banner he ostensibly campaigned, might have adopted an attitude of โ€œI-canโ€“and-will-do-it-myselfโ€ and thereby assume the role of a latter-day monarch. While I am not prepared to argue whether or not this has become an actuality, his attitude towards judicial rulings that have been adverse to him leads one to conclude that he is behaving less than merely a disgruntled litigant and more like one who regards the prudential application of the law as an officious gadfly to his overweening ambitions.

To bring the point closer home, if this were a game of cricket in the road and the bat and ball were his, he would have long ago taken both up and gone home in a huff after disagreeing vehemently with the umpireโ€™s verdict that he was clearly out.

Readers will be reminded that both the โ€œso-called judgeโ€, as Robart J. was so irreverently termed, and the three judge federal appeals panel have rejected President Trumpโ€™s attempt to prohibit entry into the US of nationals from seven largely Muslim nations. These rulings have driven a ZR through a major plank of the presidentโ€™s efforts to โ€œmake America great againโ€, the appeals court ruling stating that the Trump administration had shown no evidence that anyone from the embargoed nations had committed or were likely to commit terrorist acts in the US. Mr Trumpโ€™s bold openly voiced discriminatory threat to ban Muslims as a whole could scarcely have helped his cause since such a sentiment clearly betrays an intention to discriminate on grounds of religious affiliation, a patently unconstitutional act, and relegates to an afterthought the consideration of national security.

The matter now moves to the Supreme Court for consideration. However, an initial hurdle for the governing administration is whether the case will be taken at all by that body. In a brilliant and well researched article, โ€œControlling Inherent Presidential Power: Providing a Framework for Judicial Reviewโ€, published in the Southern California Law Review, Professor Edward Chemerinsky of the De Paul University College of Law argues that โ€œmost suits to have a Presidentโ€™s act declared unconstitutional never reach the Supreme Courtโ€ฆโ€ He references in support a number of instances among dozens where this has occurred, including disputes as to the authority of the President to impose wage price guidelines on government contractors and as to his authority to impose a 10% surcharge on most articles imported into the United States.

Even if the Supreme Court should decide to try the matter, however, the current jurisprudence is woefully unsettled. The author notes no fewer than four approaches to the question of whether the opening words of Article II of the Constitution to the effect that โ€œthe Executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of Americaโ€™ are to be construed as vesting the President with powers not enumerated in the Article.

There are those, doubtless including Mr Trump himself, who hold fast to the interpretation that the Presidentโ€™s powers are untrammelled and that he is permitted to exercise authority not specifically granted by the Constitution, while others are, contrastingly, of the considered opinion that such plenary authority would be inconsistent with a Constitutional ethos of a government with restricted authority.

According to Professor Chemerinskyโ€™s analysis, the approaches used by the lower Courts range from a clear denial of any inherent judicial power at all and that he must act pursuant to constitutional or statutory authority only, to the existence of a broad and substantial inherent authority, especially, interestingly enough in the current context, in the field of foreign affairs.

In accordance with the first perception, there is no room in US governance for a โ€œpresidential prerogativeโ€ equivalent to the โ€œroyal prerogativeโ€ claimed by British monarchs of yore and still claimed by some to extend to the local Governor General, itself an office created by Constitutional provision and thus inherently of limited authority. On this approach, if there is no condign constitutional provision authorizing the presidentโ€™s action, then it is unconstitutional.

As for the broad authority in international relations approach that the lawyers for the President will doubtless be hewing towards in their arguments, this limits the narrow approach to internal matters only. In one 1936 decision, the judge wrote:

โ€œ The two classes of powers (domestic and foreign are different, both in respect of their origin and their nature. The broad statement that the federal government can exercise no powers except those specifically enumerated in the Constitutionโ€ฆis categorically true only in respect of our internal affairsโ€ฆโ€

This approach reminds us โ€œwe are here dealing not with an authority vested in the President by an exertion of legislative power, but with such an authority plus the very delicate plenary and exclusive power of the President as the sole organ of the federal government in the field of international relationsโ€ฆโ€

Nonetheless, as if presaging the current dispute, after these dicta acknowledge that this power does not require as a basis for its exercise an act of Congress, it concludes ominously for the Trump administration:

โ€œโ€ฆbut which, of course, like every other government power, must be exercised in subordination to the applicable provisions of the Constitutionโ€ฆ.โ€

The right to due process before any abrogation of an existing right is one such entrenched therein.

To be continuedโ€ฆ.


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368 responses to “The Jeff Cumberbatch Column – The Rule of Law and Presidential Authority”

  1. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Dompey….I did not ask you that, are you in any position to apply any constitutional laws to any of the federal agencies or SCOTUS….no….I asked you how long it took you to read the constitution. ..a simple question.


  2. Alvin 3 weeks it has only been 3 weeks he was put in to shake the place up, no-one can deny that he has done that.. dominated the news cycles ….and has the dems sputtering


  3. Piece,
    Re your post regarding persons needing legal representation, but unable to afford lawyers, Government has provided for free legal services for representation in Criminal matters, and also for recourse to Public Counsel in other matters. People have to enquire and find out what services are available before passing judgement. Provision is there. Jeff can correct me if I am wrong, but I don’t think I am.


  4. @ David

    the people voted for change and they are surely going to get change from King Trump.


  5. @ Alvin

    As usual you do not read anything

    For your singing in the choir of the DLP self I said and i repeat

    Where a party is not able for a myriad amount of reasons to access “legal aid” do you understand that?

    There are numerous circumstances where that does not apply and where for example the second source cannot be utilized BECUSE DUFUS and supporter of the DLP at any costs, the amount of $$ exceeds the limit set by the office of Public Counsel.

    The Office of the Ombudsman is a waste foop entity where as a reward for pooch sucking the Government in Power, a retired fart is appointed to pretend to represent the Interests of the People

    Where the ef you does be pun a day, barring at the trough of the DLP government?

    Steupseeee


  6. Lawson,
    Don’t be such an ass that you try so hard to defend the indefensible. How long did it take him to have the stupid Executive Order written, and implement? How much chaos has it generated, in that short space to time? It is all because of his inflated ego, and look at what has happened? It has nothing to do with the Democrats having lost the election, and your imputation that it is sour grapes. How many previous elections have the Democrats lost, without the type of disturbances now present? When people are wrong you must be strong enough, despite your leanings to say they are wrong. Millions of people are reacting negatively to the foolishness,Trump is doing. The Republicans themselves are not blameless. When the Affordable Care Act was presented to Congress, they did not examine it in detail, they did not debate it, they did not offer suggestions for changes or improvements and they did not vote for it.They formed the Tea Party. Their objective from the beginning was to reject it as vigorously as they could. For eight years their objective was to repeal it. Now they have the opportunity they are discovering, first of all. how good it is, and second of all how difficult it id to repeal, and or, replace it. They are now discovering that disadvantaged people (black and white) enjoy great benefits from it. For example; persons in coal mining districts, who died from Black Lung Disease; which affects people working in these districts, received monthly benefits (money) that enables their families to have a monthly income. Removal of Obamacare, denies these families of, sometimes the only, income on which they can exist. And these people are in the main, very poor and poverty stricken whites. The Republicans are now discovering these truths, for the first time. Trump is one of the major proponents of the repeal ov the Affordable Care Act. And you unfailingly support him?

  7. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Alvin…let me break it down for you, I know because I have seen….legal aid lawyers are always up in arms because they are never paid on time, if they are ever paid at all…..Valton Benn is a joke, he never does his job, he always tell people take it to court, the same nonfunctional court that he knows is non functional because he was a nonfunctional magistrate…that is why he was removed and is now a nonfunctional ombudsman….he does nothing, people in Barbados are trapped with useless ministers and a useles nonfunctional judiciary.

    Dont even try to pretend it’s otherwise.


  8. alvin get your head out of your ass, it has nothing to do with losing election what …did you really say that????? obama care pelosi we have to vote for it before we know whats in it. If you think that healthy young people want to pay high premiums for chronically sick people you are wrong. Thats where this goes off the rails. They should employ the bajan method ..drop your old sick folks at the front of the queen elizabeth then pretend your not home when people knock on your door.
    People in the coal areas want jobs not handouts, they look after their own.


  9. Piece;
    You said “…Where a party is not able for a myriad amount of reasons to access โ€œlegal aidโ€ do you understand that?”
    You also said: “the second source cannot be utilized BECUSE DUFUS and supporter of the DLP at any costs, the amount of $$ exceeds the limit set by the office of Public Counsel.”

    You people who seek to denigrate me fail to realize that the same information I have is available to you, if you were not so stubborn and one sided. There is a provision in the
    Community Legal Services Act, Chapter 112 A. which are provided by Government which gives all the information, if only people like you would avail yourselves of this information, easily available on line. You are a computer literate person, go to the web, thou sluggard.
    It has nothing to do with my support of any political party.Anybody can go to the web, or get somebody to go on their behalf. And it is not only Government aided, the Bar Association publishes a list of lawyers who are on their Legal services callender, any of whom can be approached. Where a person is impecunious, an appeal to the court can have legal representation provided. Ask Jeff.

  10. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    “If you think that healthy young people want to pay high premiums for chronically sick people you are wrong.”

    Healthy young people are paying your pension Lawson, everything now has a higher cost attached….that’s how the system was created, the younger generation works and pay a portion of your retirment and medical benefits…… they never reviewed it within the last hundred years so it can work any other way, too busy taking tax dollars to create wars to make more money.


  11. Lawson,
    “People in the coal areas want jobs not handouts, they look after their own.” Really?

    Can’t you people understand that what you are trying to maintain is a time that has long passed. The jobs for those coal miners, and the automobile assembly plants, that made huge cars, are gone, never to return. Cars are now being manufactured that drive themselves.
    They are manufactured using robots, and are controlled by computers.The energy that was produced using Coal, such as steel mills, is now obsolete, because the steel mills have been disassembled and moved whole, to china that now produces the same steel. This was done by the coal and steel barons. Bethel steel still exists, except that its shares are traded on the stock markets, even though the plants are no longer in the U.S.Those jobs will never come back again and the people in these districts are still unable to understand that time has passed them by. You should also know this. You know about the caribbean, and Barbado0s, so you should understand that Barbados will never again be able to produce 200,00 tons of cane and sugar as it once did. The land has been taken out of production and has produced houses; big ones too, in place of cane-blades. “Dem days is gone fuhevah.” people have to get accustomed to this. It is no sense longing for those days again.

    “If you think that healthy young people want to pay high premiums for chronically sick people you are wrong.”Really?

    What do you think happens when you pay a life insurance premium, pay your taxes, or even your own health insurance premium. Somebody else is paying for your pension when you qualify for it.
    Just show how so many of you people are thinking. If you broke your leg, even at a young age and became disabled, what do you think happens?


  12. WW thats where you are wrong my contributions paid my pension ccp is just an added bonus( drinking money ) as well as annuities etc, so I am okay and because of our socialist ways I get some medical help but not as much as the refugees coming in At some point the peoples largess will have a battle with the wallet and there own children and just when they thought it was a freebee sneaking into canada there will be trump 2


  13. Another apology to the BU fas….I was otherwise engaged for the greater part of the morning. I expected today’s piece to evoke some comment but frankly. I am surprised at the volume.

    I promise to spend some of the afternoon with you replying to selected comments. Let me start with PUDRYR-INRI:

    Piece, you wrote,”A woman walks into a bajan court of law to answer charges that she did fraudulently obtain services or cash from the plaintiff in his case.

    The woman does not have a lawyer given her pecuniary circumstances, but she is unable to secure Legal aid given the confines under which they operate.

    She is being assessed by the Master of the Court and she speaks plainly of her circumstances but the Master of the Court refuses to entertain her defence because he says that she MUST HAVE A LAWYER and he thereafter makes a ruling that is punitive to her interests.

    What is that womanโ€™s recourse? She still has no lawyer? and no money and now she has a judgement against herโ€ฆ.”

    Piece, in my considered opinion, that woman would have an unanswerable ground of appeal once she can establish a causal link between her lack of representation by counsel and the judge’s adverse decision. I mean if that lack of representation is the effective, and not merely a contributory, cause of his ruling, he has acted unconstitutionally since any litigant is entitled to represent himself or herself in any court or tribunal.

    I will revert to your second query later.


  14. William Skinner

    I love and missed gearbox because he had been one of those well known character who traversed Roebuck Street when I was a young lad attending Roebuck Boys Primary back in the 1970s. Uncle Lookup and salon bamboo etc being the others!


  15. @Alvin

    IF you were abreast of the affairs of Barbados you would know many lawyers, if not all, are reluctant to engage free legal aid BECAUSE the government is broke and has been delinquent in paying lawyers.


  16. According to Violet C Beckles CUP. “People are watching you, Stand for something and stick to it, America and Americans do not need your help in law,
    The People of Barbados does, Write how they can be helped with the mess in your own country unless you also hold a British Passport, ESQ,

    Its election time, Help the People . FOUR SEASON, HYATT, SAM LORDS, BUTCH, COW, BIZZY, CHELTENHAM, RICHARD BYER, MIA, OWEN, FUMBLE, MOF , UDC, VOTER FRAUD, seem More like you want to replace Sir Hilary Beckles,”

    Dear Sir/Madam,

    I have no idea why people should be watching me, and by my writing, teaching and public service, I trust that I have helped with the mess, as you put it, in my own country. The myriad topics you listed may of course all be relevant, although I do not understand the topicality of some of them. Others, I feel sure. will comment ad nauseam on these in the coming months. I am no more expert on these matters than anyone else.

    And I do NOT aspire to replace Hilary…


  17. David,
    It’s Karma- lawyers have been “delinquent” in paying people too. LOL


  18. The difference William is that in this case the very vulnerable are impacted.

  19. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Lawson…..enlighten me, who will be the Canadian trump 2…ya just peaked my interest so I did a little research….hope trump 2 is also doing their homework….lol red for yaself, rare but not impossible, do you see a trump personality lasting in Canada, they could not wait to get rid of Harper…you either.

    http://ow.ly/zV3M308VCbW

    Dale Evans-Porterfield
    Burlington, Ontario, Canada
    18 NOV 2015 โ€” Can A Canadian Prime Minister Be Removed From Office?

    “Can A Canadian Prime Minister Be Removed From Office?

    Going forward, this is the key and critical question which must be answered for all Canadians. The latest fighter jet debacle exposes a Prime Minister who knowingly defrauded the public purse of $10 Billion. The average Canadian earns approximately $44,000 per annum and our true unemployment rate approximates 10%. Ten billion dollars, at the minimum wage rate, would employ 500,000 Canadians for a one-year period. Would that not be a boost to Canadian economy?

    We have allowed Conservative Members of this Parliament to pursue illegal lobbying activity (Jaffer and Paradis), perpetuate murder, war and theft (Harper, McKay in Libya), collude with provincial and municipal authorities to violate citizensโ€™ civil rights (Harper, McGuinty and Blair), blatantly squander an extra $10 billion on a stealth fighter jet which serves no military purpose for Canada (Harper, MacKay and Department of National Defense) and participate in war crimes (Afghanistan and Iraq).

    Canadians must seek to define the role of the Prime Minister, set rules for his/her removal and be able to charge such an individual with crimes when such circumstances present themselves. We have allowed thieves and assassins to immunize themselves from the judicial process.

    Can a Canadian Prime Minster be impeached?”

  20. Violet C Beckles CUP Avatar
    Violet C Beckles CUP

    Trump is not a lawyer , He is just doing what white men do everyday in America . Now for all to see.He works with a pen and his mouth, but he forgot about all the other whitemen in the other two houses of government. they were not appointed but elected .In 2 years those same whitemen will be fighting for their own jobs.


  21. Let’s go fundamental

    (1) Alexander Hamilton lived at the height of the slave epoch. Was born in St. Kitts we seem to remember.

    And yes, he went on to do some important work in finance, economy.

    However, we could never understand why people of this ilk must be points of reference. At a legal or moral measure.

    Certainly, Hamilton was not known for working against the moral issue of his day. Why then are his words to have any resonance 200 years on.

    We feel the same way about Winston Churchill and almost the entirety of the luminaries constructed by the West.

    For us if there is no morality, justice cannot thus flow.

    (2) Donald Trump is no less immoral, operates illegally. One second after taking his oath of office he was already committing large crimes and misdemeanors. Impeachable offences!

    The emoluments clause of the constitution clearly deems Trump as an ongoing violator of the highest law of the land.

    And unlike Hamilton, who while putting up with the most immoral criminal ‘imperative’ of his day, Trump is being allowed to extend the unitary executive tradition which gained root with FDR, a man also considered an American leading light.

    (3) So the tradition of a unitary executive did not start with Trump. There has always been a vying for relative power between all three branches. Indeed, an analysis of the Neil Gorsuch nomination will show that his veiled intent is to sequester power to the courts thereby dis-empowering the electorate as in the case of ‘Citizens United’.

    That argument contends that the two other branches have misused power and that a stronger court is necessary for a ‘re-balancing’.

    Finally, what we have, in the main, is not so much monarchical tendencies, they are too many power centres, but more oligarchical, fascistic even feudalistic leanings.

  22. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    “Piece, in my considered opinion, that woman would have an unanswerable ground of appeal once she can establish a causal link between her lack of representation by counsel and the judgeโ€™s adverse decision.”

    Jeff…dont forget to tell the forum how long it takes to get a first court date, a year the earliest, recently some people have been getting dates in 2020, 2021, 2022….enlighten us about the length of time it takes to get an appeal heard.


  23. @Jeff

    You have to allow balls to pass. We all have our different interest and oftentimes they will not intersect with others. Some will interpret that as not caring. It is what it is.


  24. Jeff

    You know a competent judge who understands the law, won’t dear object against the testimony of an accused, who is too poor to obtain counsel for his or her defence, unless that person waive his or her right to counsel.

  25. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    “(1) Alexander Hamilton lived at the height of the slave epoch. Was born in St. Kitts we seem to remember.”

    And was also one of the original drafters of the Constitution for a new national government.

  26. Jeff Cumberbatch Avatar

    @ Jeff
    Apology NOT acceptedโ€ฆ.
    Why keep on harping on US kakistocracy when we have the original version right here in Bay Streetโ€ฆ.?

    @ Bush Tea, I am disappointed that you do not find it possible to accept my introductory apology. Even if I were to accept that we have a kakistocray here as well (or, according to you, a “brassbowlacracy”) my primary interest was in the law of the matter. Our PMs already know that they are constrained by the Constitution, although Caswell’s column today rightly suggests that this fiat may not be always observed.


  27. David, Whether I am in Barbados or not, the government has provided for the provision of Legal Aid for its citizens. whether lawyers are reluctant to participate or not, there the rules and regulations are there. You yourself can go to the relevant areas of the legislation.:
    This is just part of the regulations:
    12. The Director, or such person as he might designate in writing for the purpose, may appoint a member of the panel to provide legal services for an eligible applicant in any case referred to in section 11.
    13. Any attorney-at-law, including an attorney-at-law who is a member of the Commission or an employee of the Commission who is desirous of providing legal services may be registered by the Commission as a member of the panel.
    14. (1) A member of the panel may decline to provide his services in respect of any applicant for whom the member was appointed on the ground of conflict of interest, impropriety or impossibility.
    (2) A member of the panel who declines pursuant to subsection (1) shall give his reasons in writing for so doing.
    15. (1) An attorney-at-law who has accepted an appointment to act for an applicant may, subject to subsection (3), withdraw his services by notifying the Chairman in writing, or such person as the Chairman may designate, of his intention to do so.
    (2) No attorney-at-law who has accepted an appointment to provide legal services may secure another attorney-at-law to render such services unless
    (a) Exceptional circumstances exist in respect of the matter for which he was appointed, and the Director approves of such action by the attorney-at-law;
    (b) The services are to be rendered to secure an adjournment in a trial or proceeding, or relate to a matter in respect of such an adjournment or motion therefore; or
    (c) The applicant in respect of whom the attorney-at-law was appointed consents in writing to such action by the attorney-at-law and the attorney-at-law or applicant has supplied the Director with a copy of the consent.
    (3) On the receipt of a notification under subsection (1), the Chairman may, if the circumstances so require, refer the matter to the Chief Justice for directions whether to grant or refuse permission to withdraw.
    (4) On reference under subsection (3), the Chief Justice may give such directions to the Commission as he thinks fit and the Commission shall comply with those directions.
    (5) For the purposes of this Act, โ€œChairmanโ€ means the Chairman of the Commission.
    16. Legal services under this Act may be provided as any person in accordance with this Part.
    17. Notwithstanding anything contained in this Act or the regulations, but subject to section 20, an application for a legal aid certificate may be made by or on behalf of a person charged with a scheduled offence to,
    (a) A magistrate before whom, and at such time as, he is charged or may appear upon remand;
    (b) The examining magistrate by whom the preliminary enquiry in relation to that offence is held,
    (i) At the commencement of the preliminary inquiry, or
    (ii) Where the person charged is committed for trial, at the conclusion of the preliminary inquiry,
    (c) A judge at any time between committal for trial and the appearance of the person charged before the High Court to plead to the indictment;
    (d) The trial Judge in relation to a certified offence at any time during the hearing.
    18. Notwithstanding anything contained in this Act or the regulations, but subject to section 20, an application for a legal aid certificate may be made by or on behalf of a person convicted for a scheduled offence to,
    (a) A Judge at any time after conviction and before an appeal by the person convicted is set down for hearing before the Court of Appeal;
    (b) A Judge in relation to a certified offence at any time during the hearing; (c) A judge at any time after the appeal by the person convicted is determined by the Court of Appeal and before the time for applying for leave to Her Majesty in Council has expired.
    19. Where any person who has not made an application for the provision of legal services appears before a magistrate charged with a scheduled offence or as a party to a scheduled matter, or where any such person is committed for trial, the magistrate shall inform the person so charged, appearing or committed of his right to make such an application.
    20. Where it appears to the Magistrate or Judge that
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    (a) The means of a person charged with, or convicted for, a scheduled offence, or appearing as a party to a scheduled matter, as the cue may be, are insufficient to enable that person to obtain services; or
    (b) The person charged or convicted for a scheduled offence appears to be a person of unsound mind and is unrepresented by an attorney-at-law; the Magistrate or Judge shall adjourn the proceedings for inquiries to be made by the Director into the financial circumstances of that person.
    21. (1) Where the Director is satisfied that an applicant or that the person referred to under section 20, as the case may be, is eligible for legal services he shall issue a legal aid certificate to the applicant or to that person.
    (2) A legal aid certificate may be issued only where the person is a citizen, permanent resident or immigrant of Barbados.
    (3) Where the Director is of opinion that the interests of justice demand that legal services be provided in respect of any scheduled offence or scheduled matter, he may, notwithstanding that the person is not within the category of persons specified in subsection (2), issue a legal aid certificate to that person. (4) A legal aid certificate entitles the person to whom it is issued to such free legal services as the Director specifies in the certificate.
    (5) Where the person mentioned in subsection (2), is refused a legal aid certificate the person or some other person acting on the personโ€™s behalf may appeal to the Commission.
    22. An applicant who is eligible to receive the services of an attorney-at-law under this Act may with the approval of the Director select any attorney-at-law from the panel to render the legal services in respect of which the legal aid certificate relates.
    23. (1) Notwithstanding section 22 and anything contained in the Legal Profession Act, a law student may, subject to subsection (2) provide such legal services to any person who is being provided legal services by an attorney-at- law under this Act as the attorney-at-law may assign to the student.
    (2) Where an attorney-at-law assigns legal services under subsection (1) to be performed by a student, the attorney-at-law shall supervise the provision of the services by the student.
    24. Where the court is satisfied that in the interests of justice another member of the panel ought to be appointed to provide the legal services for the person to whom a legal aid certificate is issued, it shall so direct.
    25. (1) The Director may cancel a legal aid certificate where he is satisfied that: (a) The legal aid certificate ought not to have been issued.
    (b) The applicant has made a false statement or has concealed material information in applying for legal services; or
    (c) Because of changed circumstances since the date of the issue of the certificate, the benefits of this Act ought not to be provided to the applicant.
    (2) Where the Director cancels a legal aid certificate, the applicant shall, unless exempted from this provision by the Commission on the ground that its application would create a hardship to the applicant, reimburse the Commission for the cost of providing legal services to the applicant up to the time at which the certificate is cancelled, and the amount payable is a debt due by the applicant and owing to the Commission.
    26. (1) The Director may require an applicant whom the Director considers to be financially able to contribute towards the cost of the services to be provided to him to pay such portion of those costs as the Director may specify.
    (2) Any amount determined to be paid by an applicant under subsection (1) shall be paid to the Commission, and until it is paid it is a debt due and owing by the applicant to the Commission.
    27. (1) Any remuneration, other than remuneration from the Commission, received by an attorney-at-law from or on behalf of an applicant in connection with legal services which the attorney-at-law is providing to the applicant under this Act shall be paid by the attorney-at-law to the Commission.
    (2) Costs that are awarded in favour of an applicant in any matter in respect of which the services of an attorney-at-law were provided under this Act shall be paid to, and become the property of the Commission.
    (3) The Commission may retain out of the costs awarded under subsection (2) an amount equivalent to the cost and expense incurred under this Act in respect of the applicant, and may pay the balance of the cost, if any, to the applicant.
    28. (1) Cost awarded against an applicant in any matter in respect of which legal services were provided under this Act may be paid on behalf of the applicant by the Commission.
    (2) Subsection (1) shall not be construed as making the Commission liable for costs in any matter.
    29. An attorney-at-law who has provided legal services under this Act may submit a bill of costs for such services to the Commission in the prescribed form, claiming sums for those services in accordance with the tariff of fees established by the Commission under this Act.
    30. Neither the Commission nor any member thereof is liable for anything done or omitted to be done by an attorney-at-law in the course of providing legal services under this Act.
    31. Any information disclosed by an applicant to any member of the Commission or employee thereof that would be privileged if disclosed to an attorney-at-law pursuant to an attorney-at-law and client relationship shall be privileged to the
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    GENERAL
    same extent as if it had been disclosed to an attorney-at-law pursuant to an attorney-at-law and client relationship.
    32. Nothing done by the Commission or by any person pursuant to the provisions of section 23 or 33 of this Act shall be deemed to contravene any of the provisions of the Legal Profession Act.
    33. The Commission may employ any person who is not an attorney-at-law to provide services under this Act, provided the person is supervised by an attorney-at-law; but such employee shall not appear as counsel in any court.
    34. Every attorney-at-law rendering his services under this Act shall establish and maintain a trust account for moneys that come into his hands from or on behalf of eligible applicants for whom services are being or are to be provided under this Act.
    35. The Auditor-General shall annually audit or cause to be audited the books, records and accounts of the Commission and submit a report thereof to the Minister.
    st
    36. The fiscal year of the Commission is the period commencing on 1 April in
    st
    one calendar year and ending on 21 March in the next calendar year.
    37. (1) The Commission shall prepare and submit to the Minister for tabling in both Houses of Parliament.
    (a) A report respecting the conduct of the business and affairs of the Commission for its immediately preceding fiscal year; and
    (b) A financial statement showing the business of the Commission for such fiscal year, in such form as may be required by the Auditor-General.
    (2) The Minister shall, without undue delay, cause the report and statement received by him under subsection (1) to be laid before both Houses of Parliament.
    38. (1) For the purpose of carrying out the provisions of this Act, the Commission may with the approval of the Minister make regulations,
    (a) Prescribing the qualification of applicants to be eligible for legal services under this Act;
    (b) Classifying legal services for the purposes of this Act and prescribing the class or classes of legal services that may be provided under this Act; and (c) Prescribing a tariff of fees in respect of the classes of legal services to be provided under this Act.
    (2) Regulations made under this section are subject to negative resolution.
    This is lengthy, but I have cut and pasted becausee many will argue, rather than satisfy themselves to the entire Act itself, but your argument with regards to no representation because of lqcck of funds by the government, is no reason to withhold representation. The Bar Association determines the constitution of the panel from which the lawyers providing services is drawn. But JEFF IS THE LEGAL LUMINARY ON BU, AND HE IS MORE CAPable of “fighting” this case and advocating on behalf of lawyers, and the provision of legal aid. In any case there is provision in Barbados for the provision of Legal so no one need go without representation. But then again many people who can pay for representation would like it free. We like it so


  28. @Alvin

    To use your turn of phrase “don’t be an ass”.

    On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Barbados Underground wrote:

    >


  29. But David, you, and others have already determined that I am an ass. Surely you have not forgotten. I am living up to your designation. Bt whether I am an ass or not, the truth is still the truth. By the way, according to my watch it is now 1.15 p.m. How is it that your post says 5.06 p.m.? (On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 5:06 PM. cut and pasted.)


  30. @ Jeff
    Our PMs already know that they are constrained by the Constitution
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    The problem with naturally bright fellows like yourself, is that you tend to underestimate the extent to which some others are ‘stupid as shiite’…..
    As you well know …our PMs ARE above the Law – because they are allowed to be…even encouraged to be…

    The difference between our situation and the USA, is that there are NO SHORTAGES of legal and other experts who will whip Trump’s ass into submission. On the other hand, our legal and other ‘experts’ cower behind ‘libel laws’ and self-interests as they all IGNORE the many and ongoing BREECHES of our laws by various governments.

    Do you think that the law has been applied with CLICO?
    Do you think that the Speaker of the house has faced DESERVED justice?
    Were it not for Come-and-sing-a-song, our asses would have been fingerprinted all like now so – unconstitutional or not…
    …and Hyatt will be approved …because Baloney want it done…. Lawful??

    CNN has no end of experts available to condemn Trump…. they do not need our best to join them…
    WE NEED you here boss…


  31. Alvin Cummins

    Whether or not there is a directive which mandates that Legal Aid is to be afforted to those persons who are unable to obtain it for themselves, that is neither here or there, because the reality is: when the financial resources are slim, the office of Legal Aid find inventive ways to circumvent the rules based on the circumstances of a given case, in an effort to find a technicality as to why you are not qualify for counsel.


  32. @ Alvin.

    I really do not know what to say to you.

    I could send you at least 20 matters which are not so accorded this provision which you have copied and I am sure that several here can provide you thousands more

    You write solely for the sake of writing.

    I dun wid you and that impotent Legal Aid mechanism of which you speak.

    I will not speak to the Barbados Bar Association either cause well ammmmmm steupseee

    Look why you dont at least follow Mr. Hal Austin’s lead, he is a man who has a strong feeling about things Barbadian, as do you and as do all uh we but, you know what, he is a man who when his point of view is challenged with facts, he is disposed to adjust his perspective when the facts are exposed OR TO SEEK counsel and get information about such travesties or variances.

    Legal Aid is (i) conditional on their being funding for such aid and (ii) kicks in at the discretion of the department administering it.

    I already told you that there is a cap on the Office of Public Counsel and i already made my disparaging remarks about the Ombudsman

    I am an old man and I have promised that I will not lie, cheat or steal until I am called home.

    The issue of the Legal Aid scam is true, as is the issue of the Office of Public Counsel, as is the matter of representations by the Fair Trade Commission (prior to Mr. Cumberbatch being there) and so is the utility or lack thereof of the Ombudsman.

    The people that you know in Barbados are of the ilk who can pay land taxes, and do not have court matters with powerful litigants against them, and if they do have court matters have the benefit of the big boys of the Brotherhood of the Rose

    You know no man or woman for whom the net worth of their household of 10 people is not even $5,000

    This is the thing about wunna peeple, you are disconnected from 85% of the Bajan population and can only speak of inanimate things like The Royal Palms are Dying but know nothing of the people of Marl Hole or Lightfoot Lane or the Pine or Crab Hill.

    That is not in your portfolio

    And this is why the Thord Party is going to rip up wunna flooring….for whom soever is able to get that support of the masses will win.

    And that is not Mia Mugabe nor Ftinkliar and Fumbles.

    There moment in time is gone forever as is Hilary’s moment gone, never to be recalled.

    “Bajans need to Clean the Shop”


  33. @ Bushie

    The ‘intelligentsia’ sold our from the beginning.

    Selling out in Barbados is a tradition

    A trick that smart men/women seek to achieve.

    My man, if you have old people and children in the hospital right now who have been there for hours and these same poor people would have educated generations of doctors but they themselves can’t get proper care, you really think the ‘lawyer fish’ who believe dem smarter than anybody else gine do shiite, in enough numbers, that would make sense/cents.

  34. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Alvin….the bottom line, the government has no right not to pay legal aid lawyers….and the lawyers have all rights not to work for free.


  35. The Policies of the Constitution and the rule of Law have been established in a timeline when known and unknown experiences would have required direction of protocols and rulings of violations of Law.

    Todays’ experiences call for an update to those policies and of Law that is fundamental to our times.

    Should a major negative event were to happen on US soil by known parties now that at the 9th circuit rejected the appeal, who would be blamed?

    Should at the end of the day, when all that pertains to deeds and lands be revealed and justice served… who would be blamed?

    Stealth has a signature.


  36. Wunna people are something else yuh…!!!
    How long now Bushie tell wunna ’bout Alvin…?!??

    @ Pacha 1:37 PM
    Exactly right!!
    Our ‘intelligentsia’ are nothing but ravishing, albino-centric, low-life, vermin… who are willing and able to eat their own family in order to accumulate ‘things’….

    BTW…
    What became of the Marcelle Smith murder?
    Will any ‘official’ see it fit to investigate this in the name of justice…?
    …or does KARMA have to extract due recompense on ALL OUR condescending ASSES???


  37. I am laughing!!

  38. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/93461/thorne-scolded-judge-misick

    The client should have used that time to get a new lawyer, there are more than enough complaints of lawyers who practice in Barbados doing this, for whatever reason, they are known to not be dependable.

    Ah much prefer karma to intervene on all counts….much more fun…..Bushman.

  39. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    https://www.barbadostoday.bb/2017/02/12/prominent-barbadian-artist-fielding-babb-passes/

    Top class artist…very well known fir his natural skills and talent.

  40. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    http://ow.ly/IYUF308VPd5

    I could not make up this precedent that stopped the trump ban and slapped down the illiterate in the district court, if I tried..lol

    “An old Supreme Court decision about ritual animal sacrifices helped halt President Trumpโ€™s travel bans.

    The three federal appeals judges who refused to reinstate Trumpโ€™s executive order last week relied, in part, on a 1993 ruling that granted protection to Santerรญa โ€” an Afro-Cuban religion that includes the sacrifices of goats, chickens and other animals.

    The unanimous ruling against Trumpโ€™s bans cited a decision supporting Santerรญa in a case against the city of Hialeah, Fla.

    โ€œIn Hialeah in the 1990s, it was Santerรญa. With Trump, itโ€™s Muslims,โ€ University of Virginia law professor Douglas Laycock told the Miami Herald, which first noted the use of the case.

    White House looking at all options to keep Trump travel ban alive
    The trio of appellate judges noted that Trumpโ€™s inflammatory campaign rhetoric โ€” particularly his call for a โ€œcomplete and total shutdownโ€ of Muslim immigration โ€” could be used as evidence that his executive order might be a Muslim ban, despite Trump arguing otherwise.

    โ€œIt is well established that evidence of purpose beyond the face of the challenged law may be considered in evaluating Establishment and Equal Protection Clause claims,โ€ the ruling said.

    To back that up, the judges cited Santerรญa.

    The 1993 ruling centered on the Church of the Lukumi Babalu Ayeโ€™s lawsuit against the city of Hialeah. The Santerรญa church wanted to take over a used-car lot and turn it into a place of worship.”

    http://ow.ly/L7zu308VPqU

    Lol…hahaha, lol

    I could not make this one up either…

    “BEIRUT โ€” The leader of Lebanonโ€™s militant Hezbollah group says the world will benefit from having an โ€œidiotโ€ in the White House.

    Hassan Nasrallah said in a speech Sunday that his group is much stronger than when it was created in the early 1980s and should not be concerned about threats from the West.

    Referring to U.S. President Donald Trump, Nasrallah said โ€œwe are very optimistic that when an idiot settles in the White House and boasts about his idiocy, this is the beginning of relief for the oppressed around the world.โ€

    FEB. 9, 2017 FILE PHOTO
    Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah criticized President Trump in a Sunday speech. (EVAN VUCCI/AP)
    Trump has vowed to take a stronger stance against Iran, which is a key sponsor of Hezbollah and other militant groups in the Middle East. The White House said Iran was โ€œon noticeโ€ after it tested a ballistic missile.”

  41. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/frank-walter-steinmeier-elected-german-president-donald-trump-angela-merkel-sdp-a7576056.html

    A brand new President for Germany and he is anti-trump….cant stand trump….lol

    He is the ne president of Germany not the Chancellor. …big, big difference.


  42. Well Well

    All Europeans are satraps.

  43. Jeff Cumberbatch Avatar

    “CNN has no end of experts available to condemn Trumpโ€ฆ. they do not need our best to join themโ€ฆ
    WE NEED you here bossโ€ฆ”

    @ Bush Tea,
    And I am a seriously considering answering the call!


  44. Barbados has a sizeable Lebanese/Syrian population; are we harbouring supporters/embers of Hezbollah and Hamas? Just asking.
    In Sydney, Australia, Brazil and Canada, Lebanese pose a serious security problem. We know that people in the Diaspora all have connections with home.

  45. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Pacha…they dont act as subordinate rulers, they act as they have absolute powers and they dont, it’s up to the people to realize that they are the ones who give power and energy to them.

    Good question Hal…it’s been asked before.

  46. Jeff Cumberbatch Avatar

    @Piece. onto your second point:

    “An old pensioner who has in his youth worked and saved and bought a property, built a house worth $250,000 by the assessment of the land Tax department currently receives about $1000 a month from the Pension Department.

    He pays his light water and gas and is left with $200 per month to buy food and other necessities.

    The man has no living relatives

    Mr. Wayne Forde of the Land Tax Department sends him a notice that he has been assessed $2,000 for his land taxes and after 10 years of these requests the Commissioner of Land taxes asks for and receives permission from the court to sell de ole manโ€™s land and house to pay the land taxes owed.

    What are the manโ€™s options?

    He too does not have any money to pay a lawyer.

    My point Jeff is that there are too many pernicious instances of injustice in the court system of Barbados that needs men like you to buckle on your armour and fight in the breach while other men do nothing”.

    Piece, I have known and been a friend of the former Commissioner of Land Tax (now Director of Shared Services at BRA), Mr Wayne Forde, since we were both about 5 years old, and i would be surprised if he were to seek permission to sell the old man’s house without trying his best to keep it in the old man’s possession. We were not raised that way! If it should have come to that though, the lawyer would not be very helpful…unless there had been a procedural irregularity.


  47. In Jeff’s hypothetlcal case, if that were to happen in the UK the state would n on the property and will be first in the line when occupant dies. will be allowed to live out his last days at home.g


  48. Well Well

    We have to thank you for recognizing the efforts of Hezbollah.

    They, backed by the Iranians, have defeated the Americans and their Zionist agents, in hot war, 4 times since 1985.

    But their fake news carriers and their idiotic followers ignore these defeats

    We have always supported Hezbollah and all morally based military groups fighting against the Europeans, Americans and their minions.

    This is a case we have made to several authorities, without fear. And will continue so to do if somebody in England thinks we are interested in avoiding the notice of his stinking security forces.


  49. @ Mr. Cumberbatch

    I doff my hat to you sir for both pieces of information.

    Observers may have seen the exchange and it may have passed all that transpired here but it was not a wide ball.

    You had the opportunity to hit the ball and blind the man at silly point but, with your much accustomed care, you played that ball kindly as you play all balls, on whatever field you are engaged.

    And this is the measure of the man that I, and a few others her, have grown to admire.

    Like that piece of land up there by Balls Plantation all the agricultural fields are being leveled and converted into grounds that have different purposes.

    De ole man like many fear that this levelling has come to the point where we need to take a stand lest all that we have toiled long for in our youth will be taken away from us, and not even as an act of viciousness but purely as a rite of passage called Father Time.

    Again thank you and Nuff Respect


  50. Some time ago the US State Department published a major report on the millions of dollars donated by the Lebanese/Syrian Diaspora supporters of terrorism in the Middle East. In sleepy Barbados we can easily be drawn in to these terrorist acts through no fault of our own.

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