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The following was posted to FB Senate Pageย  by Economist Charles Skeete
Central Bank of Barbados
Central Bank of Barbados
  1. The monetary authorities can fix the nominal/official rate of exchange, but not the real rate (reer).
  2. When the nominal rate is fixed, over time there is a tendency for it to become over-valued. This is so especially in small open economies. There is evidence that the official rate of exchange is over-valued (is higher than the reer).
  3. A persistent bop current account deficit suggests we have a competitiveness problem and that national consumption exceeds national production.
  4. A persistent bop current account deficit can be sustained only as long as capital inflows (e.g., FDI and foreign borrowing) are at least equal to the current account deficit.
  5. High debt eventually limits the ability to borrow foreign exchange โ€“ except from the IMF.

What can we do?

Option 1: Draw on FX reserves. Unless replenished by a current account surplus, FDI, or foreign borrowing, reserves will be exhausted in short order. Sharply declining reserves will eventually make devaluation and borrowing unavoidable.

Option 2: Reduce the fiscal deficit. Alas recent experience suggests that our heart is not in it. We try to raise taxes we cannot collect and we resist cuts in spending with all our might. Reducing the fiscal deficit is necessary to restore a balance between national consumption and national production. Without credible steps to restore this balance, we will continue to be rated a poor credit risk.

Option 3: We have never been fond of high interest rates, except as a reward for saving. The fact that high interest rates are an alternative/supplement to devaluation as a way to lower consumption is conveniently overlooked.

Option 4: Adopt policies that make the relative price of imports and exports more favorable to earners of export revenues and less favorable to consumers (e.g., devaluation, tax holidays, or other subsidies). We have been willing to use tax holidays and other subsidies to encourage investment in our leading export sector (tourism). This is necessary because we are not price competitive without such subsidies and we have rejected devaluation or a cut in the nominal wage (the standard remedies). As noted above, rejection of these remedies is viable only as long as reserves last.

Concluding Remarks: Restructuring of the agriculture and manufacturing sectors sufficient to restore current account balance are necessary, but are achievable only in the medium and long term. Fiscal and bop imbalance require remedies that will show immediate results. The ability to borrow foreign exchange would give us breathing room. On the whole, I must conclude that an IMF Program is very much in the cards.

Here endeth the final lesson.


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123 responses to “What Have We Learnt So Far Regarding DEVALUATION?”


  1. Two weeks short on reservers should not be a call for The IMF right now when considering the depth of economic depressioin 2008 which the naysayers conviently chooses to forget and which was far worst in comparison to a more stable economic and social enviroment at which the economy has arrived
    Where we are presently most barbadians would prefer not but rather pursue a path of slow and steady than an IMF program of deficit reduction which will favour international lending agencies while gutting the social and economic fabric to the bones which in long term would be more devasting and harder to recover as have been shown in jamaica


  2. David,
    Charlie Skeete has been preaching devaluation and an IMF program from the Sanford Era. There is NO benefit to Barbados by an IMF program or Devaluation. If the only reaSON WE WOULD GO TO THE IMF IS TO GET FOREIGN EXCHANGE THAT WOULD BE USED TO PAY OFF DEBt then we MIGHT AS WELL TIGHTEN OUR BELTS EVEN MORE NOtCHES AND LEAVE THE IMF MONEY WHERE IT IS. IMPOSE IMPORT RESTRICTIONS, MAKE THE PEOPLE LIVE WIHIN THEIR MEANS AND LIVE ON WHAT FOREIGN EXCHANGE WE EARN. REDUCE GOVERNMENT EXPENDITURE ON WAGES AND TRANSFERS, by not filling posts when persons retire, and reduce the number of civil servants that way. Throwing persons out of work in an effort to cut expenditure is counter productive. People have to be employed so that they can provide for their families. Import substitution should be pursued as much as possible, and greater marketing of our products must be undertaken to cut our import bill and boost our exports.


  3. Alvin

    You mean like Estwick suggested since 2009?


  4. Economics is a science.
    It uses deductive and inductive processes to collect and organize empirical knowledge, which is then used to make predictions that can be tested against actual events.

    That is what science is.


  5. WILD COOT: Oh dear, Ms Dukharan

    Harry Russell, quijote70@gmail.com

    Added 06 February 2017

     

    I DO NOT THINK that Bajans like when Trini tell them that they are going wrong. They call it โ€œfassing in we businessโ€.

     

    Perhaps Trini does not see it that way. For the last 20 years or so, when the murder rate in Trinidad started escalating, Barbados has been seen by Trini as a safe haven to which to escape the slings and the gunshots, to park their families, to educate their children and generally to relax โ€“ oh, and to do business. You see Barbados was seen as solid as a rock, as a Vinci once remarked, โ€œthe idea of Barbadosโ€.

    Now for the last ten years or so, the economy has started to disintegrate, to the dismay of Trinidad. The thing is that Bajan politicians will take your money, your oil and your commodities, but as the Mighty Gabby said, โ€˜gi me back me cou cou and flying fishโ€™.

    To be serious, you could be right about the debt being 160 per cent of GDP if you consider all the relevant factors, off-balance sheet items and unpaid debts of Government obligations. I disagree with the concept of making the US dollar the currency of Barbados. The hoarding may not be found with the man in the street, but with the big-ups. That our budget gap has been widening consistently for the past ten years is true; that we need to suck salt for a while to come is also true โ€“ you call it โ€œpick your poisonโ€; that we must renegotiate our local debt and foreign debt and bond holdings is also true, so that our payments can come closer to our receipts. It is going to be a long uphill battle.

    The authorities are not laying out the true picture to Barbadians, and the Prime Minister, with elephantine grace, is loquaciously dangling a US billion dollar investments inflow like pie in the sky, knowing full well that it is impractical โ€“ actually, I do not think that he knows. First US$100 million from Sol may not be going directly into the economy. How much may be used to pay off an exterior loan of BNTCL is not said. Hyatt will not put US$250 million or so into the builderโ€™s hands without a block on the site; and the net positive investment at Sam Lordโ€™s Castle is questionable. In any case, the terms of their proposal to fund the reconstruction is insulting (see what is also happening in Jamaica).

    The Wild Coot has already made known his views on the iniquitous arrangements with Sandals. Views that continue to show that the foreign exchange expectations are not forthcoming to Barbados. That tax arrangement has had a significant effect on other hotels as they react to an uneven playing field. Now I believe that businesses are happy to put their foreign exchange outside of Barbados and wait and see. (Shades of Jamaica in the 1970s and 1980s.)

    People are complaining that foreign exchange remittances sent to the Trinidad banks in Barbados are not being kept here for supporting our imports, but are sent to Trinidad that is repatriating Barbados dollars in exchange. This could mean that Trinidad has a surplus of Barbados dollars, probably as payment for oil, food, loans or even dividends. It also signals that our Central Bank has lost control of the foreign exchange destined for Barbados and above all, the overseeing of the foreign banks, their exorbitant commissions and miserly interest rates. If that is happening, crapaud smoke we pipe.

    Our minister of finance has promised to resign if we have to devalue, but having put us in excrement, what help would that be?

    There should be no more talk of devaluation. What we need is to find a way to get our cash flow on an even keel even if it involves further sacrifices.

    Recently in the media, the spokesman for the Bankers Association has advocated retooling for public workers, probably in anticipation of cuts. Does this association not realise that it is part of the problem? Is it not incongruous to be sporting super profits in our downturn?

    And so Ms Dukharan, perhaps our boys will listen to you since you come from over and away and perhaps have no axe to grind. Look how we stuck by you when the other islands deserted you and accepted the trade deal of oil from Venezuela. When you say โ€œpick your poisonโ€, do we have to choose hemlock, or can we choose one for which there is an antidote? Say, have an early election and take our chances with the International Monetary Fund (IMF) if it does not insist on devaluation. As you know, an IMF programme gives market investors confidence.

    โ€ข Harry Russell is a banker. Email quijote70@gmail.com

    • Well Well & Consequences Avatar
      Well Well & Consequences

      Since ya cant have it both ways and win, adopting the US currency would prevent so called ” big ups” and msny others from hoarding US……because it will be the currency of the land, no need to hoard, it would just like have bds dollars, but will be US………

      …….neither would Trinidad be holding unto Barbados’ foreign exchange, depleting the central bank’s reserves and filling it up with local currency, because US will be the common currency…….ya cannot have it both ways and win……

      ……OR…..since there is only one poison, you do not have two….go to IMF, they been insisting on devaluation fpr years, so forget the hope, ya might get market confidence, but with incompetent, lazy, corrupt government ministers….good luck.

      “To be serious, you could be right about the debt being 160 per cent of GDP if you consider all the relevant factors, off-balance sheet items and unpaid debts of Government obligations. I disagree with the concept of making the US dollar the currency of Barbados. The hoarding may not be found with the man in the street, but with the big-ups.”

      People are complaining that foreign exchange remittances sent to the Trinidad banks in Barbados are not being kept here for supporting our imports, but are sent to Trinidad that is repatriating Barbados dollars in exchange. This could mean that Trinidad has a surplus of Barbados dollars, probably as payment for oil, food, loans or even dividends. It also signals that our Central Bank has lost control of the foreign exchange destined for Barbados and above all, the overseeing of the foreign banks, their exorbitant commissions and miserly interest rates. If that is happening, crapaud smoke we pipe.”


    • Charlie Skeete on the always present issue of FX scarcity.

      Charles Skeete

      2 February at 02:29

      As a general rule, no one hoards rocks.

      A comment on my last thread on devaluation included a suggestion that the scarcity of FX could be caused by hoarding by certain sectors of the economy. Hoarding is caused by scarcity; not the other way round. Hoarding is a sign that holders of FX either expect its price to go up, or that they expect its supply relative to demand to decrease.

      So why is FX scarcity on the rise? As pointed out in my last posting on this topic, the gap between imports and exports continues to widen, capital inflows continue to fall, and the bop account is balanced by drawing down the stock of FX.

      Today we will deal with the standard remedies for one of the causes of FX scarcity: a widening gap between imports and exports — or more precisely, a persistent competitiveness problem (we have been running a bop Current Account deficit from at least 2008).

      The standard solution to a competitiveness problem is exchange-rate devaluation. This would, in theory, allow us to stimulate exports while making imports more expensive (an active devaluation). This theory rests on the assumption that the demand for exports is price elastic (demand for exports go up if their price measured in foreign exchange goes down). The Central Bank view is that our main export product (tourism) is not price elastic and that lowering its price in a foreign currency would lower receipts from the same number of visitors as before with no increased benefit to Barbados.

      Apart from improved export competitiveness, are there any other benefits to be derived from currency devaluation? Currency devaluation lowers the demand for imports by making imports more expensive. In turn, this lessens the demand for FX and therefore its scarcity. For many in Barbados this is decidedly not a benefit, and precisely why devaluation is such an unattractive option.

      One must ask then, if we reject devaluation as an answer to our persistent competitiveness problem and to growing FX scarcity, what are we willing to do to maintain our fixed exchange rate? Before giving my own, I anxiously await suggestions.

    • Well Well & Consequences Avatar
      Well Well & Consequences

      Good luck, they dont want the negativity of devaluation, understandable, they dont want currency substitution, mysterious and self-defeating….they have no options left…self-destructive.

      Good luck I say, maybe they can pull a rabbit out of a hat and stop waiting for a miracle, inertia will not help.

    • Harold Bonpaire Avatar

      Now that the Governor of the Central Bank has broken ranks with the Minister of Fine Pants and the Prime Spinster and approached the IMF directly, they want to make him the scapegoat and fire him? This is what happen when you stake your reputation on bums and novices.

      What happened to Stinkliar’s Home Grown Fiscal Plan, did Sen. Jeptor ‘Clown’ Ince get a hold of it and substitute for Home Blown Physical Plan? Is Stinkliar a Home Grown Fiscal Terrorist?

      There is no place other than in Barbados and in politics that Stinkliar, the colossal failure, could refuse to resign and would not be fired.

    • millertheanunnaki Avatar
      millertheanunnaki

      @ Alvin CumminsFebruary 5, 2017 at 10:08 PM
      โ€œPeople have to be employed so that they can provide for their families. Import substitution should be pursued as much as possible, and greater marketing of our products must be undertaken to cut our import bill and boost our exports.โ€

      Alvin, the time has come for both you and your deceitful lying party to meet your Waterloo and face the music and dance to the โ€˜Devaluationโ€™ song.

      All the deceit and lies about the economy and projects in the pipeline to Mars have now coalesced and in true Vulcan fashion will soon erupt like a time bomb in your face; unless you walk away earlier than โ€˜timedโ€™.

      You arrogantly refused to take advice from both political and non-partisan people whose only skin in the game at that stage was a horse named โ€œPatriotismโ€.

      What you are proposing at this stage of economic collapse is nothing new and nothing but previously disregarded cold soup and well documented even in your dangerous lying partyโ€™s compendium of false promises and lies called their 2008 & 2013 manifestoes.

      Why donโ€™t you advise your administration (for a start) to ban w.e.f. April 2013 the importation of all vehicles for private use along with canned and boxed juices from all over the world and the garishly expensive false hair worn by black women who appear to hate themselves and the image in which your god created them?

      Let them start with those unnecessary luxuries and tithes to the god of vanity to kick start the process of import substitution and provide work for the many unemployed youth including those attending the SJPP.

      The vehicle junkyard at the MTW premises would make the ideal pilot project to โ€˜resuscitateโ€™ some of those sick vehicles just in need of a bit of mechanical and electrical TLC.

      While on the topic of โ€˜Import Restriction & Substitution you ought to be aware the โ€˜undercoverโ€™ importation of marijuana represents a massive drain on your countryโ€™s forex.

      The habit of using mary jane is deeply embedded in the psyche and bodies of the youth and like the problems with alcohol and cigarettes (a major addiction of people of your generation) will not be going away any time soon because of any law or hypocritical doublespeak warnings about the dangers she (MJ) poses.

      So why not decriminalize its use and local production to not only save a large slice of leaking forex but also offer the opportunities to earn forex through the above-board export of high added value products from cosmetics and apparel and accessories to medicine and health food for both human and โ€˜domesticatedโ€™ animals.

      You might be surprised to know that cows fed on the โ€˜breastedโ€™ goodness of mary jane grass produce twice as much milk as those fed on imported molasses-based pellets from Brasil or elsewhere.

      You might even find that when mary jane is well prepared and mixed with processed canine food the calming effects on the genetically mixed-up mad mauling dogs stalking Barbados at night might just be miraculously impactful.

    • millertheanunnaki Avatar
      millertheanunnaki

      @ millertheanunnakiFebruary 6, 2017 at 9:13 AM

      โ€œWhy donโ€™t you advise your administration (for a start) to ban w.e.f. April 2013 the importation of all vehicles for private use along with canned and boxed juices from all over the world and the garishly expensive false hair worn by black women who appear to hate themselves and the image in which your god created them?โ€

      Alvin, please make that 2017 (and Not retroactively to 2013 as in the case of salaries for those selfish self-centred unpatriotic dishonourable members).

      And you can add to the list. ‘Goldie’ (Gabriel’s friend Goalie) Taitt can be consulted via a sรฉance for โ€˜workableโ€™ advice.


    • I see Henry Fraser is now an economic expert.


    • Another pie in the sky???
      Luxury med plan
      ONE OF THE Caribbeanโ€™s largest health tourism projects โ€“ a multimillion-dollar facility โ€“ is about to be unveiled in Barbados. And the spin-offs from the $500 million…
      nationnews.com|By Nation News author
      http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/93260/luxury-med-plan


    • Miller

      In the late ’90s the then govt came up with a plan to make the Scotland District the bread basket of Bim,I think this idea can be revamped and the hemp thrown in as well.

      This area is 1/7th of Bims land mass and has been neglected for the last 15 years,I would suggest getting an NGO to take over the concept which was rooted in agro-eco-tourism and seek through crowd sourcing or international agencies the necesary funding for this macro-project that will provide decades of employment through the rehabilitation of the land,planting of the crops,reaping,processing,etc,etc this offers opportunities for entrepreneurs to establish many niche areas with various products.

      It will not cost the country anything,provides educational opportunities in many area,will reduce food imports and bring in forex through its niche products and tourist attractions.

    • Frustrated Businessman aka 'Nation of Laws' my ass. Avatar
      Frustrated Businessman aka ‘Nation of Laws’ my ass.

      Here’s the fundamental problem with revitalising the agriculture and manufacturing industries: THE SAME DAMNED CIVIL SERVICE THAT WE HAVE BANKRUPTED OUR COUNTRY TO KEEP EMPLOYED.

      I dare anyone reading this to contact BIDC today and state your case for opening an ‘Approved Undertaking’ manufacturing business and ask them how much time and money you should budget to complete the process. The answer will be 50% optimistic and send you straight to another Caribbean country with your idea.

      Then call the ministry of agriculture, tell them you are leasing land from a bankrupt farmer for BDS$200 per acre per year (bargain by any measure) and tell them you want a farmers’ registration card and duty-free concessions for a tractor and some farm implements. You will end up buying imported vegetables like the rest of us.

      We are not serious about facilitating business in this country, business people have been saying so for eight years. It has never been as difficult as the last eight years. This gov’t never took charge of the snivel service and never will, their election was a contract with the snivel service. Now they have been proven to be liars the civil service co-operation is less than zero.


    • Frustrated Businessman aka ‘Nation of Laws’ my ass. February 6, 2017 at 9:48

      Quite true which is why in the scenario I painted above the NGO must have govts backing with full approval from the various ministries for concessions and waivers for the project……it cannot be busines as usual going forward,a paradigm shift has to occur.


    • Pieceuhderock wrote “let the DLP โ€œdraw the shots and ire of the electorate and then the BLP will come forward as the saviours of the Nation”

      5 years from now………let the BLP โ€œdraw the shots and ire of the electorate and then the DLP will come forward as the saviours of the Nation.

      BLP and DLP play donkey.( real ( old ? )Bajans remember the game we played with a ball )

    • Frustrated Businessman aka 'Nation of Laws' my ass. Avatar
      Frustrated Businessman aka ‘Nation of Laws’ my ass.

      millertheanunnaki February 6, 2017 at 9:13 AM #

      Exactly.

    • Well Well & Consequences Avatar
      Well Well & Consequences

      DBLP are a tag team. ..the people have to cut them loose both of them, it’s the only way of stopping the cycle of corruption, disenfranchisement, stupidity and sending a message to other wannabes that the people and country cannot and will not take anymore.


    • @ Well Well & Consequences

      No truer words spoken “we need to cut them loose, BOTH OF THEM…”

      They need to understand that we WILL NOT TAKE THEIR LIES ANY MORE.

      And that we will cut them loose as easily as they have been cutting our throats for the last 30 years with this teifedness

    • Frustrated Businessman aka 'Nation of Laws' my ass. Avatar
      Frustrated Businessman aka ‘Nation of Laws’ my ass.

      Integrity cannot be found on a Bajan political platform, the scummery that passes for politicking in this country is disgraceful.

      The only way to bring integrity to governance of this country again is by depoliticising the senate so national institution appointees serve as independent, educated watchdogs for legislation (as was originally intended) and civil service / statutory corporation panel of judges.

      That requires a 2/3 majority vote in favour by the very people we need to reel in.

      The only way to make it happen is by voting block pressure: unions.

      Who guards the guards?


    • miller,

      Like you, it gives me no joy to sit and watch what is going on in this country. Artax and you took pains weekly to intelligently point out the dangerous road this government was taking this country down and all we got was blistering from the ac consortium. Carson Cadogan at least ran away.

      What unfolded on our front page yesterday was no surprise as I was being told of the under currents for months at the CBB…….. but it is a sad situation.

      Now that the governor has seemingly ran out of options, a dose of reality now seems to have hit him. I am sad. During last year when I mentioned that people were having difficulty accessing foreign exchange, some BU people thought that I was scaring people. I knew this from business friends and from a store assistant when I went to purchase an item in a store…the sales assistant asked me …..are you sure you want to use your US……do you know US dollars are scarce?

      I have no respect for those directors…..they sat down in their lofty boardroom and ate their fancy catered lunches and allowed the Governor to do whatever the Stinkliar who is not an economist, told him to do. They knew that the kind of economics the governor was practicing was wrong. I was at a do when I heard a driector said that some mornings he is afraid to open the email from the CBB with the daily briefing………and they now get a conscience?

      If the governor had told the minister after the IMF had told him to stop………that I can no longer continue printing money every month …………we would never be where we are today.

      But dont forget……..”we aint want to hear anything from wunnah, any ideas wunnah got, keep to wunnah self, wunnah had 14 years, now is we time, we gine do things we way”……….the words of Donville Inniss in 2009!


    • @PUDRYR

      Cut the BLP & DLP lose and replace with who? The PDC?

    • NorthernObserver Avatar
      NorthernObserver

      @AlvinC
      “we MIGHT AS WELL TIGHTEN OUR BELTS EVEN MORE NOtCHES AND LEAVE THE IMF MONEY WHERE IT IS. IMPOSE IMPORT RESTRICTIONS, MAKE THE PEOPLE LIVE WIHIN THEIR MEANS AND LIVE ON WHAT FOREIGN EXCHANGE WE EARN. REDUCE GOVERNMENT EXPENDITURE ON WAGES AND TRANSFERS, by not filling posts when persons retire, and reduce the number of civil servants that way.”

      Occasionally you amaze me. Can you imagine where B’dos might be today had these policies been implemented?

      I also note a targeted reduction on certain imports, could also be very beneficial to the garbage situation.

    • Frustrated Businessman aka 'Nation of Laws' my ass. Avatar
      Frustrated Businessman aka ‘Nation of Laws’ my ass.

      David February 6, 2017 at 3:31 PM #
      @PUDRYR

      Cut the BLP & DLP lose and replace with who? The PDC?

      If the revamped senate with powers of prosecution calls a few hearings to review past contract awards and forms tenders sub-committees to open all tenders over BDS$100K publicly on Parliament TV, you will see how quickly the scum will crawl back into their holes.

      To get rid of the rats all you have to do is put away the cheese.


    • @Frustrated Businessman

      Why do you think the winning President never moves to champion change to the Electoral System with its flaws?

      Who will bell the cat?


    • The only ones who can put away the cheese are the same rats…….so why would they do it?

      The above question has been asked a thousand and one times on BU in different ways with no answer…….only the said same politicos can change the rules/laws/conventions/constitution………so why would they do it to their disadvantage????


    • @ THe Honourable Blogmaster

      Here is de ole man’s suggestion

      It is time for change and a new Revolution of sorts.

      Find a mid-point with a new political party, IT DOES NOT MATTER WHO.

      and while it may seem to be a naive suggestion have that political party contractually sign off to specific things.

      I know that people might say that the contract with the said Party might not be binding on the newly elected government BUT my suggestion is that W HAVE TO DISBAND THESE BAND OF THIEVES.

      the lesson MUST BE SHOWN THAT WE WILL NOT GO DOWN THE ROAD WITH ITHER OF THEM ANYMORE!!

      FULLSTOP.

      That is the covenant of hope that any bajan knowing that both BLO & DLP are the same shyte needs to sign on to

      anything else is just spinning tot in mud.

      WE HAVE TO CHANGE THIS OR in five years time the replacement Barbados Labour Party, under Mugabe Mottley is going to be mekking us snort

      I for one am tired of the two of them

      AND SO ARE YOU David.

      Give me one name among them that is Honourable just one name, Toppin, Kerrie Symmonds, Dale marshall, Payne?? call one

      SHIP THEM ALL OUT OF TOWN and let them all realise that we ARE NOT TO BE EFFED WITH.

      THere will never be another chance in our lives


    • Robert Skidelsky: “Letโ€™s be honest: no one knows what is happening in the world economy today.”
      Is economics education failing?
      Robert Skidelsky explores the limitations of educating economists, and the consequences.
      weforum.org
      http://wef.ch/2k3JMon


    • Their most recent Economic Review was presented Tuesday 24th which listed Foreign Reserves at only 10 weeks, and in financial circles it is said the IMF says if reserves go below 12 weeks then a country may have to look at devaluation of its currencyโ€ฆ
      Ian D. Bourne feeling shocked with Thomas Sankara and 14 others at Tom Adams Financial Centre (Central Bank Of Barbados).
      7 hrs ยท Bridgetown

      How long is Dr Worrell allowed to run amok? He is past age of retirement yet it’s BIDC workers Gov’t asks to leave at age of 60?
      The Bajan Reporter | Central Bank alters its website โ€“ Dates Missing and Youtube Videos removed | The Bajan Reporter
      bajanreporter.com|By Bajan Reporter
      https://www.bajanreporter.com/2017/02/central-bank-alters-its-website-dates-missing-and-youtube-videos-removed/


    • what i see at play here is the blp reading from the same 2013 election play book which goes like this

      Privatization a means to an end
      IMF program a means to an end
      Devaluation a means to an end

      All of which cost the blp the last election

      carry on smartly lol

    • Bernard Codrington. Avatar
      Bernard Codrington.

      @ Vincent at 5:24 PM

      Economists of my generation were trained in the rounded manner outlined in the article. We had electives and I made sure I included Accounting, Demography and Economic History as well as the compulsory economic and politics courses.
      They all were useful in my work career. Economics is about man and like all organisms
      individual and social psychology plays an important part in how he responds to external and internal stimuli. More importantly he is for ever learning therefore he learns from past experience. So economics is more than a series of simultaneous equations. That will do in Chemistry and Physics but not in the biological and social sciences. It is not even tenable in aeronautical physics. That is why Physicists made redundant from NASA went to wall Street. Hoping the Mathematics used in the Space program would work in the Financial World. And you saw the results with derivatives and Hedging.

    • Bernard Codrington. Avatar
      Bernard Codrington.

      @ Vincent

      I omitted to thank you for the paste.
      I hope Bushie will now cease to proclaim his ignorance of what an economist is. The elements with which we deal are unstable. They are not made of the amalgam of which his Brass Bowls are made.


    • Bernard

      My early training was in meteorology not dissimilar to economics……..many many variables attempting predictions.


    • @Bernard Codrington. February 6, 2017 at 7:17 PM “economics is more than a series of simultaneous equations. That will do in Chemistry and Physics but not in the biological and social sciences. It is not even tenable in aeronautical physics. That is why Physicists made redundant from NASA went to wall Street. Hoping the Mathematics used in the Space program would work in the Financial World. And you saw the results>”

      True.

      A good part of economics is about human behaviour, and human behaviour is hugely unpredictable, can any of us predict what we ourselves will do in 3 years time?

      This is the same reason that military governments are so bad. The militarily trained boys with the guns and boots believe [foolishly] that other people will behave as they do. When people don’t, the military boys [or wanna be military boys] then have to crack some heads and shoot some people, and shed some more blood.

      Economics lesson 101: People unruly.

    • millertheanunnaki Avatar
      millertheanunnaki

      @ acFebruary 6, 2017 at 6:20 PM

      Ac, the resident blow fly of BU, mark these words:
      โ€˜One day coming very soon you will be made to eat those same words you just regurgitatedโ€™.

      In your nightmare of dreams the DLP will soon be returned to office and you will soon be, in true blow fly fashion, the biggest feeder on whatโ€™s left of the carcass of the Bajan economy โ€˜wrackedโ€™ by the same privatization, devaluation and deeply embedded in the bowels of a rigor mortis type IMF grip of fiscal heavy manners.

      We are witnessing the original โ€œPeter Principleโ€ in action when it comes to your dangerous lying party pretending, in true monkey fashion, to be managing the peopleโ€™s business.

      As the Prodigal Son so timely recalled the โ€˜powful-foolishโ€™ outburst of that two-bit porno pimp promoted to his highest level of vacuous bullshit and โ€˜excellentโ€™ incompetence where his morning words donโ€™t add up to his evening performance.

      โ€œBut dont forgetโ€ฆโ€ฆ..โ€we aint want to hear anything from wunnah, any ideas wunnah got, keep to wunnah self, wunnah had 14 years, now is we time, we gine do things we wayโ€โ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆ.the words of Donville Inniss in 2009!โ€

      Those famous hubristic words of shortsighted arrogant stupidity have come back like karma the bitch to bite the naked butt of the exposed porn king and to haunt the living daylight out of this moribund ghost of an administration not fit for the purpose of managing Barbados.

      Come on, there must be some little bone of decency and concern for the country still remaining in the burnt-out cadaver now referred to as the John Dow found dead in George Street. Cause of Electoral Death: Deceit brought on by a 10 year life of lies.

      Just ring the bell to start the exorcism of the demon that possesses the body politic called Barbados.


    • Miller

      Have you noticed that we have not heard a word from the “moutha” or as Stetson Babb always refers to him …….the “out spoken” minister.

      The Central Bank is imploding and not a word from Mr Inniss, something is strange in Denmark!


    • And โ€œwhat I see at play here is the DLP reading from the same 2013 election play book which goes like thisโ€:

      โ€œPrivatization (NOT) a means to an end.โ€ After elections they will admit to civil servants the country is in economic turmoil before retrenching 8,000 more of them; they will secretly negotiate the sale of other public entities as they did with BNOCL; the mysterious appearance and disappearance of the garbage trucks that were parked in the port may reappear again as they prepare to privatize the SSA.

      And how would the numerous PSV permits that were recently issued by the Transport Authority affect operations of the Transport Board, especially under circumstances where there is a deliberate attempt to maintain an inadequate number of operational units per day? Privatization of the Transport Board?

      Also recall that on Monday, January 6, 2014, (which was AFTER the 2013 general elections) during a press conference to discuss this islandโ€™s economy, Sinckler said government was in the process of reviewing the functions of 19 statutory corporations with a view to consolidating their operations.

      โ€œHe added that, of those 19 institutions, โ€œSome will go out of business, others will merge with each other and perhaps where it is feasible and makes sense for PRIVATE INVOLVEMENT (privatization) in the operations of any of those institutions that will be undertaken as well.โ€ [BGIS: January 9, 2014]

      โ€œIMF program (NOT) a means to an endโ€โ€ฆ.. These stupid, โ€œeconomic illiterateโ€ political yard-fowls known as the ACs, are of the mistaken belief that an IMF program means โ€œausterity measuresโ€ and โ€œcurrency devaluation.โ€ Yard-fowls, the IMF offers a number of programs, such as the:

      โ€ข Stand By Arrangement, which provides short-term assistance for countries experiencing short-term balance of payments difficulties;

      โ€ข Extended Fund Facility, which provides longer-term assistance to support membersโ€™ structural reforms to address balance of payments difficulties of a long-term character;

      โ€ข Structural Adjustment Facility (SAF) to provide balance of payments support on concessional terms to low-income developing countries and provide loans to support the medium-term macroeconomic and structural adjustment;

      โ€ข Poverty Reduction and Growth facility (PRGF), which aims at sustained poverty reducing growth;

      The most ignorant individual to be ever appointed as Barbadosโ€™ Minister of Finance, Chris Sinckler, ADMITTED that government REQUESTED technical assistance from the IMF. In other words, Barbados entered into an IMF stabilization program/arrangement, contractionary in nature, consisting of financial measures aimed at reducing the public sector employees and government spending, reforming the tax system and introducing measures to stimulate private sector investment.

      โ€œDevaluation (NOT) a means to an end.โ€ However, the Governor of the Central Bank, private sector organizations, special interest groups, local, regional and international economists, IMF, Standard & Poors, World Bank, Caribbean Development Bank and other financial institutions, have all ADVISED government that continuing on its current economic path will result in the DEVALUATION of the BS$.

      โ€œAll of which (WILL) cost the DLP the next electionโ€ฆโ€ฆโ€

      โ€œCarry on smartly lolโ€ฆ..โ€

      DEMS now, DEMS, never, ever again!!!!

    • Well Well & Consequences Avatar
      Well Well & Consequences

      https://www.barbadostoday.bb/2017/02/07/boycott-them/

      What kind of jackass is James Paul, how can you boycott a business if Paul refuses to name the business that needs boycotting, he is another dumb minister or whatever who wants throwing out on his ass.

      Same thing Paul did with the illegally imported chicken, both him and Dumbville knew who imported the inferior quality chicken illegally from the UK and both refused to name the crook, playing the same stinking game against the people of hiding and protecting the names of the business people destroying the economy, when those names should be made public…real life coons the 2 of them..

      Kick both of them out of parliament, they are both useless to the people.


    • Look my message is a simple refection of what happened in 2013 with the same messengers touting a flag of doom and gloom
      The imaginery downward spiralling effect of the economy which was to topple the govt and give the blp an imaginery win of biblical propotions did not happened
      Soon the nation would have to endured the marches once again as proof that the blp is serious about change
      Change without having solutions is an imagination gone wild.


    • ChangeChange without having solutions is an imagination gone wild.

      Chuckle……..status quo without having solutions is a……….what????


    • These โ€œstrategiesโ€ you to which you refer are not specific to the BLP, but has been used by both BLP and DLP.

      Prior to the 2008 general elections, the DLP engaged in similar activities. Similar to BLP marches, during their 14 years in opposition, the โ€œnation had to endureโ€ the DLP walking out of parliament on numerous occasions, a strategy they are now condemning the BLP for doing. In those days the DLP did not remember they were representing people who voted for them, it was all about โ€œan imaginary win of biblical proportions.โ€

      If you were to be honest, (which is an impossible task for political yard-fowls), you would concede that, during the past 9 years, the DLP has not made any significant developmental, social or economical changes to Barbados. The status quo remains the same. Corruption, wealth remains in the hands of a few white individuals whose names change according to which โ€œparty is in power,โ€ ministers displaying a blatant lack of transparency and accountability. Actually, in some situations, things have gone from bad to worst.

      While in opposition, David Estwick was the DLPโ€™s chief spokesman on economic matters. He wrote articles in the Sunday Sun and used VOBโ€™s โ€œBrass Tacksโ€ program to be a โ€œmessenger touting a flag of doom and gloom.โ€ Estwick said Barbados was in โ€œdebt trapโ€ and also expressed an โ€œimaginary downward spiraling effect of the economy.โ€

      And the economy DID NOT collapsed as the DLP predicted.

      Ironically, the same David Estwick publicly admitted the DLPโ€™s economic policies are responsible for current โ€œdownward spiraling effect of the economy.โ€

      Under this inept DLP administration, the Barbados economy has experienced numerous consecutive credit rating downgrades; lack of investor confidence; unexplained depletion of foreign reserves; manipulation of economic data (as identified by the IMF); failed economic policies and now the talk of devaluation has once again surfaced, NOT by the BLP but by other sources.

      During the 2008 election campaign, the DLPโ€™s mantra was โ€œTIME FOR CHANGE.โ€ But was the DLPโ€ serious about change?โ€ Under the present circumstances, it is clear to Barbadians that the DEMS were not serious.

      Taking into consideration all that has occurred in Barbados under this administration, certainly proves โ€œChange without having solutions is an imagination gone wild.โ€

      There are not any fundamental differences between the BLP and DLP, as you would want Barbadians to believe.


    • CHASING RAINBOWS

      Defenseless kids with weak parents
      Can find themselves in predicaments
      Being bombarded with crap on TV
      Of lucrative sports in high society
      And instead chose the end of a rope
      A real shame when they canโ€™t cope

      Politicians are the experts on this
      On the pulpit theyโ€™re never amiss
      More than the world they will promise you
      Seeing through their hypocrisy nothing new
      Come time to pay up they canโ€™t fulfill
      As they try to cover up with a sour pill

      Some women swallow this wholesale
      Watching ads saying you cannot fail
      In getting trim to look sexy for today
      Even becoming anorexia on the way
      But all these dreams fall by the wayside
      As the chased rainbows always go to hide

      In every walk of life we find
      Folks who have this in mind
      Even in some schools this some do teach
      Trying for rainbows you can never reach
      Maybe itโ€™s good to hope and aspire
      Better doing that before you expire

      I am not advocating being a pessimist
      But I prefer being an honest pragmatist
      Why not treat everyone with truth and honesty
      Than to hoodwink them with slippery casuistry
      The world would be a better place for us all
      When we treat the other person as a real a pal


    • WW&C
      You notice how often the said James Paul is on the DLPTV.Something is in the air and some people are feeling the wrath early.


    • Tripping all over one self is not a solution. Those who have crticisms must also be aware that there is a high level of responsibility attached to give those solutions that are for betterment instead of dipping from a poisonous well of glandular deceptions to trick and entice

    • Well Well & Consequences Avatar
      Well Well & Consequences

      Gabriel…it says a lot that government ministers cannot call the names of the business people destroying the economy,,,, that happens nowhere else in the world except for banana republics where government leaders are silenced by business people….tells us a lot.

    • NorthernObserver Avatar
      NorthernObserver

      I wasn’t aware it was illegal to import coconut water? Or that it required a special permit. Do you recall the outcry when imported ice creams became the thing? Or when multiple beers invaded what was Banks domain? Neither do I.
      Could this be a ‘protectionist policy’?
      The gentleman Paul has already said too much.


    • I’ve seen coconut water on the shelves for years now. I didn’t know that the Barbados Agricultural Society was unaware. I did not buy it because it was about 3 times as expensive as local coconut water, and I never buy foreign if local is cheaper and fresher.

      I heard someone complaining on Brass Tacks this morning that a particular coconut vendor smelled sweaty. I wanted to ask her how she would smell if she was working outdoors in 30 degree heat, and 90 percent humidity. I put it to her that even if she had carefully bathed and deodorized herself, that after two hours in the heat and humidity she too would smell sweaty. I know that I too smell very sweaty after a couple of hours of hard outdoor labour.

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