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Jeff Cumberbatch - Columnist, Barbados Advocate
Jeff Cumberbatch – Columnist, Barbados Advocate

“The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter…”Winston Churchill.

“Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time…”Winston Churchill

The story is that the deliberations of the US Constitutional Convention of 1787 were held in strict secrecy. Consequently, curious citizens gathered outside Independence Hall when the proceedings ended in order to learn what had been produced behind closed doors. Their answer was soon provided. A Mrs. Powel of Philadelphia asked Benjamin Franklin on his exit, “Well, Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?” With no hesitation whatsoever, Franklin responded, “A republic, if you can keep it.”

As did most of my friends by their own admission, I spent last Wednesday morning in a funk of astonishment and disbelief at the events that had transpired in the US a few hours before. We were trying, as Maureen Dowd put it in her opinion piece in the New York Times last Wednesday, to “absorb the impossible”. Despite the geographical inexactitude and patent vagueness of his campaign slogan to “Make America Great Again”; despite his petulance and clear unease at articulating clearly any policy position; despite his clear contempt for those of a race or culture different from his own; despite his abandonment by the Republican establishment after flagrant displays of an offensive misogyny and mimicry of the disabled; and despite the unanimous certainty of the pre-election polls to the contrary, Donald J Trump had secured the mandate of the people (via the Electoral College) to become the next President of the United States of America.

And yet, on further reflection, it is not that difficult to explain this alarming event, although no single factor will suffice. For one, there is the vagary of democracy itself. Churchill’s dictum in the epigraph might seem uncharitable and perhaps even out of sync with our current constitutional ethos, but it may serve eloquently to explain in part some surprising results in recent democratic decisions such as the BREXIT referendum in the UK, the rejection of the peace accord in Colombia, the Trump victory and perhaps some others besides. And polls are mostly unable to predict these types of results because the actuality is that very few responders want to be perceived as being out of step with the prevailing view. I can count, on fewer than four fingers, the number of individuals who, to my knowledge, contemplated that Trump would have won this contest and even so, this was mostly because they hated Mrs. Hillary Clinton more.

This point as to the unthinking nature of voters should not be understated. In an interesting column published online in Foreign Policy, Jason Brennan first posits inarguably that “democracy is supposed to enact the will of the people” and then queries “but what if the people have no clue what they’re doing?” His thesis is that most voters are ignorant or misinformed because the costs to them of acquiring political information greatly exceed the potential benefits. He likens the democratic exercise to a professor telling her hypothetical class of 210 million that in their final exam no individual will receive his or her personal grade but that everyone will get the same grade. In that case, he argues, no one would bother to study and the common grade would be an “F”. He concludes therefore, “…voting is more like doing the wave at a sports game than it is like choosing policy.”

For some, it might have been precisely this Brennanesque stance of belittling the native intelligence of the ordinary voter that led ineluctably to the Trump triumph. One writer has argued persuasively that the choice made on Tuesday last might have been less of a instinctual default option and more of an “intelligent” choice. For him, anger and uncertainty at the inexorable march of globalization and technology had reached such a pitch that many voters were ready for disruption [of the status quo] at any cost.

“Enough of elites; enough of experts; enough of the status quo; enough of the politically correct; enough of the liberal intelligentsia and cultural overlords with their predominant place in the media; enough of the financial wizards who brought the 2008 meltdown and stagnant incomes and jobs disappearing offshore” is how Roger Cohen expresses their collective frustration in the New York Times, a worldview that could find some commonality in Trump’s sloganeering and would be antithetical rather to the Clinton campaign where the candidate herself was perceived as the epitome of this perverse state of affairs.

Indeed, more than a few commentators in recent days have focused their readership’s attention on the unsuitability of Mrs. Clinton as the worthiest Democratic opponent for Mr. Trump. Not-so- easily-dismissed suspicions about the moral authenticity of the process that brought her the nomination as the candidate of the Democratic Party; her coziness with “them” (the financial and social establishment) and a regrettable sense of entitlement that, perhaps unfairly, suggested that she should be free from popular and legal scrutiny –what Maureen Dowd calls a “miasma of financial and ethical cheesiness”; would scarcely have endeared Mrs. Clinton to the alienated rural voter in the counties and states of Middle America.

Nor should we discount lightly the bigotry that might have induced apoplexy should a female be allowed to follow a blackish individual into the White House and that would have felt itself threatened by the inexorable “browning” of a formerly whitish USA.

Today’s headline to this column poses a question for further debate. It is part of a broader inquiry as to what type of President is Trump likely to be. Given his flip-flopping with the truth during his campaign, it would be mere conjecture to base this conclusion purely on his utterances then. Will he be the candidate who claims that he knows more about ISIS than even the generals on the Joint Chiefs of Staff and thus be the individual defender of the “Free World” or will the demands and stresses of the office, so clearly evident in the frosting of the crowns of both Presidents Clinton and Obama during their respective tenures, humble him sufficiently to tone down his inflammatory exclusionist rhetoric?

The defining characteristic of the republican system of government as distinct from that of the monarchical that the US would have successfully rebelled against in 1776, is its checks and balances inherent in the constitutional construct of the separation of powers to ensure that no one branch impinges on the exclusive preserve of the other. Trump’s campaign discourse made a mockery of this principle with his frequent references as to what “I” would do. There was no correspondingly frequent mention of “my administration”.

Now, with the Republicans controlling both the Senate and Congress, and with a President Trump, emboldened by his electoral mandate, entitled to reject the Republican establishment as a consequence of their earlier treatment causing him to do it “all by himself”, the circumstances are ideal for a return to a quasi-monarchical system of “Trumpism”.


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396 responses to “The Jeff Cumberbatch Column – A Return to the Monarchy?”


  1. As usual, Jeff has only a slight acquaintance with the subject of his commentary, so he must be forgiven for reprising the perverse thinking of the punditocracy in London and Washington, which are hopelessly out of touch and blinded by arrogance.

    POINT ONE: The notion that the US electorate is “unthinking”, “ignorant”, and “uninformed” is totally wrong. On the contrary, most Americans are politically astute and vote exactly according to their economic and cultural interests. As a result, a US presidential election is a game of inches, decided by only the slightest of shifts. Donald Trump almost exactly reproduced the results of Mitt Romney and John McCain. Hillary Clinton almost exactly reproduced the results of Obama. Here is a comparison of the Trump vote in 2016 with the 2012 Romney vote (shown in parentheses):
    White women — 53% (56%)
    White men — 63% (62%)
    Blacks — 8% (6%)
    Hispanics — 29% (27%)

    POINT TWO: No Jeff.The circumstances are not ideal for an imperial presidency. Trump cannot do it by himself. He lost the popular vote, and two pillars of the Republican Establishment — Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan — are the gatekeepers to legislation, with plenty of reserve powers. Do not forget: the House of Representative can approve articles of impeachment, and the Senate can convict the president for “high crimes and misdemeanors”.


  2. Chad9999

    I totally agree with you on the point that most Americans vote according to their cultural and economic interest, and it is a point of which I intended to make, but you beat me to it. In any event, yesterday I was talking to an African American friend of mine at the gym who vote for Trump. And he tells me the number one reason he voted for Trump had mostly do with Trump campaign slogan of bring back jobs to America, getting rid of NAFTA , addressing the corruption in Washington etc.


  3. @chad99999

    How many voted in the respective categories you have highlighted?

  4. Jeff Cumberbatch Avatar

    And Chad, do you think that the House and Senate will act accordingly?

    “Hillary Clinton almost exactly reproduced the results of Obama”.

    Incidentally, you do have a strange way with words!


  5. Jeff

    Your conclusion is too simplistic and wrong

    There is nothing within the Constitution of the USA nor in the current political circumstances which could lead to a return to a ‘quasi-monarchical system of Trumpism’, formally.

    We estimate that even for Trump that would be a bridge too far.

    The same US Constitution, unlike the one you know best, gives citizens a right to bear arms, to remove a government with those general tendencies and there are already 350 million guns help by a population prepared to depose monarchical formations of any type.

    Further, there are elements within the national security state, 17 agencies, the Pentagon etc which are prepared to lead this war from the front.

    That army will be made up of large numbers of the same people who voted for Trump – Republicans. For Democrats are largely cowards willing to kiss the ring of which you speak unless their most recent defeat ensures a house cleaning from top to bottom.

    We, like most, reasoned that Clinton would have won. But neither the winner nor the loser explains a deeper failure of democracy itself, not only in the USA and Britain, but throughout the world.

    In Barbados, the gulf between the people and the government is no less of a failure. What is so desirable about democracy to envision that these problems may go to the root, as fundamentally causative, instead as the seeming externality to be blamed for something else, the return of quasi-monarchy, as your article presumes?

    We have made the point before that ‘democracy’, in its modern form, is barely a couple of hundred years old. It has co-existed with other brutal, backward formations, the ideas that there could be an ‘re-emergence’ of a quasi-monarchy at the centre of empire is not bore out by other indicators, at this time.


  6. Trying to distil the intricacies of (inter)national politics – or of human behaviour in general – in the absence of an understanding of the spiritual REALITIES that really drive our world, is like a pack of jackasses debating donkey politics without reference to the circumstances, relationships and intent of their various human owners.

    Chad is right. Most voters are NOT “ignorant and unthinking”. They tend to vote as closely as possible to their honest preferences. What ‘most voters are’ … is selfish, hateful and vindictive. In recent times, the opportunity to vote for candidates who represented such values has been stymied by ‘political correctness’. Those haters therefore either did not vote, ….or they went with the closest to their heart on the poll.

    Trump openly identified with the nasty nature of the majority…… and won their hearts. It was a brilliant winning strategy.

    He could well turn out to be a great president, IF, having done what was needed to win, he now has the sense to do what is needed to succeed…

    Odds are however that this will be MUCH more difficult to pull off ….. after all, last time Bushie checked, he did not have a whacker….


  7. Note: and though my African American friend voted for Trump, he told me that he had had some reservations regarding some of the statements Trump made regarding, women, minorities, and immigrants, but he was unequivocal in his belief regarding the fact that had Hillary Clinton been elected, nothing would have change.

  8. Jeff Cumberbatch Avatar

    “The same US Constitution, unlike the one you know best, gives citizens a right to bear arms, to remove a government with those general tendencies…”

    @ Pachama,

    Don’t try this one on with me. Yes, there is a constitutional right to bear arms, do not seek to conflate that with any constitutional right to remove a government”


  9. David

    I have not seen turnout statistics for different demographic groups.
    I know what you are saying and you may be right — overall, 57% of eligible voters cast ballots this year, down from 58.6% in 2012 and 61.6% in 2008. Of course, 2008 was an unusual year because of enthusiasm for Obama.


  10. Jeff

    ”A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the
    people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

    The Second Amendment states as above. This has generally been interpreted by the Supreme Court as we stated. Why would it be necessary for people be armed if not to protect themselves ‘freedoms’ from threats, foreign and domestic.

    You will come to know this

    More fundamentally, your monarchical law systems would prefer the people not to have a viable threat against governmental formations anathema to public will.

    Within the USA that code does not exist.


  11. Jeff

    You must connect ‘the right to bear arms’ to the maintenance of a ‘free state’.


  12. Pach

    The right to bear arms is done in according with the state


  13. Pach

    The state does not give the citizenry the right to overthrow it … the fifteen southern states tried it during the Civil War and you’re cognizant of the resulted.


  14. Pach

    And for your information: the militia is what is termed today the state National Guard. Every state has military force for its protection. Remember the state was independent of the federal government before the federal constitution applied to the state.


  15. We get it Domps!


  16. David

    ‘States’ within the USA have their constitutions.

    We cited the second amendment of the Constitution of the USA, as a ‘State’.

    We trust this simple deference could be discerned.

  17. Anonymouse - TheGazer Avatar
    Anonymouse – TheGazer

    Simplistic and wrong is the notion that the numerous guns in the hands of civilians would be turned a against the US government. Whilst this idea held currency in an Obama administration and would have held currency in an HC administration, the installation of a Trump administration has stripped all value from this idea. It is more likely that these gun will be use to terrorized and intimidate a segment of the society.

    One of the interesting facts to emerge after the election of Trump was the fall of in the prices of stocks in gun companies as America no longer fears that the government would take away its guns. Don’t conflate an armed Obama’s America with that of Trump. One is an enemy and the other is a friend.

    As one wit stated “Obama wanted to take away our guns, Trump wants to take away our health care.

    The “return to a quasi-monarchical system of Trumpism” is much more likely if Trump decides to pander to his armed Trumpeters.


  18. Correct assessment that the US electorate is “unthinking”, “ignorant”, and “uninformed” given this election result
    Point being that an informed electorate could not have logically voted for Trump knowing all the necessary facts that directs conventional wisdom to act on society behalf as protectors and purveyors of the rule of law
    In order for Trump to win over the hearts and souls of those who voted for him the people would have to be the most self-centred and ignorantly unaware of the New World in which we live Sad to say but it is true .
    Those promises which Trump made are the embodiment of an electorate who are living outside the realms of reality promises which cannot be remotely achieved , promises which have the markings and signatures by signed agreements attached to world leaders for a more globalized and dependable world ,promises that if an educated and informed public was aware would have distance themselves from buying a pig in a bag
    How can any one entertain the idea that the american public was not ignorant or uniformed going into this election and gives the whole world a Trump boggles the mind . In any case one still have to reflect that giving his chances of not surviving his early candidacy which he did anything is possible
    He still have his tweeter account to keep the Republicans in check , Never mind the Constitution, In deed america is in for interesting times


  19. The bottomline is that Trump delivered a message that resonated with a rural class who have become more and more alienated from the establishment. This is why they went with Trump. The idea of someone promising to make America great again did it. These blue colour workers are not academics, they are capable of reasoning based on what they know.


  20. David

    People have to be able to locate this constitution without the historical context within which it was written.

    It was written before/during the War of Independence when the British monarchy held most of America as a colony/colonies.

    Why else would such a, not right, but responsibility be so enshrined if not to to defend citizens from, particularly the British monarchy, but more generally all monarchies, as it was?

    Remember, the Spanish and the French and others monarchies had territorial interests in the Americas and in North America, itself.

    That legal culture of defense against monarchy or defending the Constitution against enemies, both foreign and domestic, exists to this very day and as seen in all oaths of office.

  21. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/chimamanda-ngozi-adichie-emmett-tyrrell-racism_us_582770e8e4b0c4b63b0cf282?ref=yfp

    Most Americans voted as they did because like all arrogant politicians Clinton took the voters they have disenfranchised and ignored for decades…for granted.

  22. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    http://ow.ly/DMoI3067s3e

    For those who dont realize how easy it is to remove a government in the US..even if it is restored after.

    http://ow.ly/eheG3067s8s


  23. @Pacha

    See the Churchill quotes above.

    Pursuing democratic ideals is a messy business -another issue we must be careful not to spout in absolutes.

  24. Anonymouse - TheGazer Avatar
    Anonymouse – TheGazer

    I cannot buy into the ‘ignorance of the voter’ , my phrase.

    Many have invented creative ways of depriving people from voting and this notion is just a next way of trying to select the few who should vote. In addition to the poll tax, voter suppression, literacy tests, gerrymandering of polling districts, changing polling places, opening polling offices late, will our modern contribution be an IQ test?

    Joseph Brennan was not of our time. Our society is different from that he lived in. His comment does not take into account the access and availability of social media.

  25. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    http://ow.ly/v7oq3067se9

    This was the original reason the right to bear arms were amended.

    “The Second Amendment was based partially on the right to keep and bear arms in English common law and was influenced by the English Bill of Rights of 1689. Sir William Blackstone described this right as an auxiliary right, supporting the natural rights of self-defense, resistance to oppression, and the civic duty to act in concert in defense of the state.[8]”


  26. The US election process is riddled by fraud anyway. The Trumpsters are claiming that the elections were rigged for Clinton to win, but the overwhelming pro-Trump vote threw the vote count so far out of expected limits, the vote rigging was unable to overcome the pro-Trump landslide. Now political commentator Mark Crispin Miller (who believes evidence clearly shows the nomination vote for Billary over Sanders was rigged for Billary) is pointing to anomalies in certain critical states where, for example, the exit polls had Billary as winning, but the actual vote count gave Trump the victory and another case like this one in Michigan which seems to mimic a situation from Florida in 2000.

    An open plea to Michael Moore (and all our other lefty stars): Dude, where are our votes? WAKE UP!

    On “Morning Joe” today, Mike made a righteous case against the liberal media for its disastrous arrogance toward all those suffering workers, or ex-workers, who came out to vote for Trump in Michigan, Wisconsin and elsewhere.

    As moving and perceptive as he was on that key point, however, toward the end he suddenly revealed his own deep cluelessness about ANOTHER crucial aspect of the trouble we’re all in today: the absolute corruption of our voting system.

    Having made a cogent case for why so many folks in Michigan came out to vote for Trump, Mike then completely contradicted it—and, in so doing, grossly misinterpreted a stark electoral anomaly in Michigan—by pointing out that 90,000 Michiganders had cast NO vote for president, while completing every OTHER entry on their ballots.

    snip

    It’s happened before—in 2000, for example, when Al Gore (seemingly) “lost” Florida in part because a lot of voters in THAT state had had THEIR ballots edited by unseen hands: “There were about 27,000 of these ‘undervotes’ in three South Florida counties, ballots on which no vote for president was registered by machines the first time around,” as CBS News reported at the time.

    http://markcrispinmiller.com/2016/11/an-open-plea-to-michael-moore-and-all-our-other-lefty-stars-dude-where-are-our-votes-wake-up/

    Check out the site run by Bev Harris at blackboxvotingDOTorg for an exposé on the flaws inherent in the USA’s computerized voting systems which provide no audit trails and effectively eliminate the possibility of recounts in disputed elections.

    One question Bev Harris has examined is why do the vote counts from the voting machines calculations count fractional votes. Decimal places are not normally shown in the tabulated final results but are easy enough to show for a programmer or computer operator who knows how to turn them on to show up in the display or printout of the candidates’ vote totals should s/he wish to do so. Of course no one under normal circumstances wants them to show because it would only lead to questions like, “How come candidate Smith got 42005.46 votes and candidate Jones got 38956.37 votes? Where did the .46 of a vote and the .37 of a vote come from? I thought it was one man, one vote.”

    The voting machines and voting regulation do not provid any means for voters to, for example, cast .5 of a vote for candidate A, .25 of a vote for candidate B, and .25 of a vote for candidate C. See the “Fraction Magic” video published on the main page of blackboxvoting for an explanation as to the most likely reason why the computerized tabulating software was written to operate with fractional votes when, theoretically anyway, there are NO fractional votes cast.


  27. HER ROYAL MAJESTY – THE QUEEN1

    In 1953 we celebrated your coronation
    Then you presided over a Commonwealth
    Including almost every colonial nation
    Caring for their welfare and health

    We embraced your Jubilee celebration
    Still presiding over the Commonwealth
    Including almost every colonial nation
    Caring for their welfare and their health

    At that time to some it made sense
    To some to have their freedom readily
    You gave them their independence
    Many abused that privilege eventually

    Forty years later you’re still serene
    Many clamour for the demise of the Monarchy
    As the world got cruel and mean
    You maintained your cool and kept your dignity

    You hold your head and still walked tall
    To your family you’re still their matriarch
    But you’re still loved by one and all
    And to us, still the one and only Monarch

    My dear Queen, you being mother and wife
    Always showed pride and affection
    Yet sincerely maintaining a vigorous life
    As you jet from nation to nation

    You continuously showed a commitment to caring
    And there would be far less violence and rage
    There would be far less misery and less hurting
    If from your book many leaders can take a page.

    1 I wrote this poem in 1992 and the Queen replied on 8th Sept, 1993. She said she was ”very touched by the loyal sentiments I expressed in verse” when I returned from England this story was featured in their Pickering Newspaper entitled “ POETRY FIT FOR A QUEEN’ The pics of her letter and clipping from the News Advertiser still hangs on my wall.


  28. @ David

    Is this the same Churchill who described Arabs as ‘sand niggers’.

    We understand the philosophical frame from which you come

    But we do not and cannot hold up Churchill as a doyen.

    He is no point of reference for us.

    It’s amazing how when these people die they could have some of us thinking like them, still

    When in their own lifetimes they were the worst criminals, of all times.

  29. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Resistance to oppression means……oppression by any government, making it easier for we, the people to overthrow any government oppressing us……that was the original intent.

    Thing is….politicians over the centuries have learned to refine the art of oppression and disenfranchisement of the people for their own, selfish, greedy personal gain and that is what gave Clinton a well deserved, massive beat down.

  30. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    The black male is the easiest species to revert their own minds to that of a slave. It does not take a lot of prompting by anyone to achieve that goal..


  31. David

    The bottomline is that Trump delivered a message that resonated with a rural class who have become more and more alienated from the establishment. This is why they went with Trump. The idea of someone promising to make America great again did it. These blue colour workers are not academics, they are capable of reasoning based on what they know.

    however they were states that trump won that were not blue collar which meant that Trump message which was derived and lacking in credible information resonate not only with blue collar workers but a electorate who believe in Trump’s self serving cherry picking ideologies of protectionism

  32. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @Jeff, others have stated well your view of any inkling towards a monarchical entitled governance is absolutely impossible. I would answer your query “…do you think that the House and Senate will act accordingly?” with a resounding YES.

    Some pundit (actually the Prof Littman) in recent days made the point that the Republican congressional leaders in the main are NOT in concert with Trump’s totally non-conservative agenda (blowing the deficit being paramount) and he opined that that angst is as good a wedge as any to force a larger divide hurtling to an impeachment. In short they would gladly push Trump if any of the various ‘allegations’ ever raise to a level of credibility. The prof views are not far-fetched…in the least.

    Two other quick additional comments.

    I was not surprised that there was very little traction re that Colombian plebiscite discord (the US election drowned out everything else). That was a purposeful dismissal of the people’s strong distrust of ruling elites.

    In a similar vein, what of the public’s disapproval of their ‘dictator in making’ Pres Duterte approving a hero’s burial to Ferdinand Marcos’ remains!!

    And finally despite the despicable nature of Trump’s campaign as the Bushman said, “He could well turn out to be a great president, IF, having done what was needed to win, he now has the sense to do what is needed to succeed…”

    A sober reflection of the polls and reams of analysis will show that in fact a Trump’s presidency was forecast (on the science) but very smart people who are programmed in a different code were unable to synthesize the data.

    Smarter people than I am, will reflect on the volcanic explosion of nasty, nasty things said on the internet daily – for years now – and how that has changed society. They will eventually reflect for example that parents has trolled their children’s enemies online leading to the ones so targeted committing suicide. The trolling parent’s attitude: not one iota of remorse or concern.

    They will ask if the regular fights on high school grounds by parents with coaches; between teams based on racial angst etc etc. are aspects of a changing society.

    They will again speak of the fact that the Republican party (and the Dems too when in power) has been singing the ‘null-versions’ of Aretha’s ‘Respect’ song certainly these last eight years.

    And then maybe after they reprogram to accept the new input they’ll see that Donald Trump’s despicable attitude was the SAME thing. He was mimicking his society perfectly.

    Clearly the average guy or gal reprogrammed much easier and dismissed Trump behaviour banking instead on some perspective that he will otherwise make a difference.

    When an educated elected official from whom one expects nuanced and learned disagreement simply says he (they) will (would have) definitively BLOCK all Clinton’s Supreme Court appointments can we really or honestly not understand the absolute crass, despicable behavior we see for the everyday folks on this blog, across the world society and in Mr Trump’s ‘resounding’ victory!

    We all need to reprogram!!!

  33. Jeff Cumberbatch Avatar

    @ Anonymous, you are thinking of the wrong Brennan – I am not referring to the former Justice Brennan

    William Joseph Brennan Jr. (April 25, 1906 – July 24, 1997) was an American judge who served as an Associate Justice of the United States Supreme Court from 1956 to 1990. As the seventh longest-serving justice in Supreme Court history, he was known for being a leader of the Court’s liberal wing.

    But to this one-

    Jason F. Brennan is the Robert J. and Elizabeth Flanagan Family Associate Professor of Strategy, Economics, Ethics, and Public Policy at the McDonough School of Business and Associate Professor of Philosophy at Georgetown University.[1]

    Brennan writes about democratic theory, the ethics of voting, competence and power, freedom, and the moral foundations of commercial society.[2] He has been called “one of the world’s leading academic experts on voting and political knowledge”.[3]

  34. Anonmouse - TheGazer Avatar
    Anonmouse – TheGazer

    @Jeff
    Thanks for the correction
    And the manner in which it was done; you cannot hide class.

  35. Anonmouse - TheGazer Avatar
    Anonmouse – TheGazer

    BTW – this guy is younger than I am. “It is I, who may not be of his time”, said the dinosaur

  36. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Nous verrons ce que nous verrons..


  37. Well Well

    You are right to locate Trumpism within a wider context, something more fundamental is happening here

    That transcends the nation state

    Certainly, it cannot be sensible to see this in local contexts alone.

    We have previously argued that it’s systemic.

  38. Caswell Franklyn Avatar

    Jeff

    I came to the conclusion that Trump would have won the presidency very early in the primaries when he was still being considered a nuisance candidate. I tuned out at that point in disgust and did not follow the campaign.

    I came to that conclusion when Trump announced that he would build a wall on the border with Mexico, he suggested that the illegals would be deported and he referred to the Mexican as drug pushers and everything that was wrong with American society. Immediately upon his attack, his poll numbers rose significantly and there was no looking back after that.

    My opinion is that Trump appealed to the latent but ingrained racism that is concealed in the hearts of the vast majority of white America. There is a host of civil rights laws that seek to punish those guilty of racial discrimination but laws cannot regulate the heart. Voting for Trump gave those racist the opportunity to give effect to their racism without any penalty to themselves.

    Hilary Clinton or any other candidate did not have a chance despite what the pollsters said. Their analysis missed the significant element of racism but most analysts seem to be in denial.

  39. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    http://ow.ly/gQAG3067u1j

    7.4 magnitute earthquake shakes NZ.

  40. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    “My opinion is that Trump appealed to the latent but ingrained racism that is concealed ( i am adding the word CONGEALED) in the hearts of the vast majority of white America.”

    Well said Caswell.


  41. @ Well Well @ Caswell

    That is convenient, race, but not central to what happened.

  42. Anonymouse - TheGazer Avatar
    Anonymouse – TheGazer

    I am hoping that we do not get into a discussion on the definition of a monarchy.
    We may not call him King Trump, but he may accumulate a level of power that far exceeds that of previous presidents; a rose by any other name is still a rose.

    Trying to pigeon-hole Trump has been the great failure of this election.

    Initially, the media treated him as a joke and instead of holding his feet to the fire they gave him unlimited access and free press. We laugh at his buffoonery and he gathered followers.

    The pollster seem to have conducted their polls within HC’s universe; they assumed that respondents were reliable and they thought non-respondents were a mirror image of the respondents. Bad models and bad data lead to us underestimating the strength of his support.

    We heard of the lack of the Trump ground game and the remarkable HC ground game; HC’s ground game seem to have brought out fewer Clintonites than Trumpeters.

    Let’s not underestimate the level of power this man may attain.


  43. This is an excellent point. We focus through a narrow lense on what Trump and the politicians do and give the other forces in the society a pass. The media, people, judiciary, government and the others must converge to hold all players accountable onbehalf of the people.

  44. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    http://ow.ly/KfuC3067vml

    This is the reality….let’s hope what the author of this article is projecting resonates in the minds of the minority population in the US….and they do accordingly.


  45. @ David

    Those are not going to happen, maybe one, but not collectively for sure.

    All of these forces have been too compromised. It is not in their interests.

    Something has to happen from outside to bring them to their proper roles.

    We’ll bet you David that even after the people spoke Obama, in this lame-duck session, will try to pass TPP, TIPP

    The very globalism which has caused people to erupt in objection

    Do you want to bet!


  46. Turkey foreign minister issues and advisory travel warning to turks living or travelling to USA amidst the ongoing protest


  47. @Pacha

    Why would a lameduck try to do same? He needs to do the foreign travel thing leading up to January and forget TPP, appointing supreme Court judge and so on.

  48. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    “But take my word, this will produce positive change. Black, brown and gay New Yorkers will coalesce as a new force in New York City and around the nation. The U.S. Census Bureau says racial and ethnic minorities are now a majority of children under the age of 5.

    In the long run, Trump will not succeed.”

    Very futuristic……


  49. @Pacha

    What has to happen to bring these forces to a Christian understanding? What external event are you wishing for?

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