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Ronald Jones, Minister of Education
Ronald Jones, Minister of Education

I believe that it is time to speak out on certain matters. It may take me more than one column to say these things but I am not committing to having a page or a slot. Just for background information for those who may not know, I recently retired from the teaching service at the level of Deputy Principal, after serving as Acting Principal for 18 months, a post which I really could never achieve, being labelled a ‘troublemaker” and more recently a “devil” by the powers that be. Why? The status quo, as corrupt as it may be, must be maintained! But more on that later.

Years ago when I was P.R.O. and then President of the B.S.T.U. this issue of violence against teachers raised its head and from then till now, some 18 years later. Successive Ministries of Education under various Ministers, the worst being the present, have failed to grapple with the issue, and like most other things in this country, it has remained under the carpet. This is a country where if you don’t toe the line you are out in the cold. Are we going to wait until a teacher is killed to deal with it? I accept that due process and investigation must take place, however, that having been done the next steps need to be taken:

  • The Board of Management needs to decide if the child is to be further suspended, expelled or sent back to school.
  • The Ministry then takes the Board’s recommendation and either accepts or rejects it and rightly so, then make their own determination.
  • The child has to be expelled from that school and not from the educational system as some people would want to determine. This is because the teacher involved and the student cannot exist in the same environment simultaneously. It would leave the student as a hero, something which I have seen done on several occasions.
  • The Ministry needs to seriously put in place that special institution which has been spoken about for many years. It should be run by the Defence Force personnel and have strict guidelines in relation to an alternative syllabus for such students who offer this category of violence to a teacher or even their parents.

Let it be clear that I am not suggesting that teachers are always right and children always wrong because that would be far from the truth. There have been instances where teachers have caused things upon themselves due to the inability to cope with certain personalities in the classroom. Some teachers were not born to be teachers but end up doing it out of necessity. On the other hand, when we analyse why certain children display very unsociable behaviours, as is being suggested as a remedy, what happens afterwards? One guidance counsellor per secondary school of 1000 children is adequate? One psychologist at the Ministry is enough? Abolishing corporal punishment is the answer? The countries which have taken that approach are in more trouble than we are now, and may be looking to reinstate it. But look! There is a teacher who flogged children illegally for years, was warned on several occasions, but was just given a Deputy post at a hot school. Wow!

What about the new rantings and ravings of the Minister? Can you imagine a Minister taking up a portfolio which contains important mandates as written in the Education Act and only after 8 years, comes out to say that he never liked Corporal Punishment. What is even worse is that he has insulted all Principals, Deputies and Senior Teachers by implying that they should all be locked up for assault. I wonder what BAPPSS’s response will be, being the soft organisation that it is, one which, in keeping with the requirements of being attached to any government agency, must “toe the line” and play down many of the issues which plague our system. Things that happen at the so-called low schools happen at the high schools too but “no press allowed”. Maybe one should wonder why the rules which govern secondary schools are not standardized, (I don’t mean on paper.) Each school almost does as it likes. What do I mean? In some schools, teachers must write a letter whenever absent, others not. In some schools Principals are not even informed about decisions made by the Board, even though he is supposed to be the CEO on the compound. They don’t even get to browse the Smart Stream system to know how much money was allocated, where and how it is being spent. In others, that is the norm. Talking about Boards, would you believe that at a school, corporate governance has allowed a Deputy Chairman of the Board to be on that same entity along with his wife who is the Secretary Treasurer? Of course one is not to even ask about things like those and that is why both the writer and the current Principal were recently labelled ‘Devils” for asking about it. Not only that! The previous principal, (notice the small letter) complained to the Ministry for me because I asked too many questions about the Status Quo like: Why are teachers from this parish getting to school late so often? Do you send monthly reports to the Ministry? Why do certain teachers have 18 & 19 non-teaching lessons? How is it that certain people come and go on the compound with much frequency but with your permission? Why are certain teachers in your office for long periods during the day and you are never available for matters on the compound which the Deputy must make decisions on? I would never forget the day there was a fire above the school and children were having asthmatic attacks and the writer was chastised for being asked by teachers what to do. He didn’t even have a clue what was going on. He asked if the teachers think I am “our saviour” because lives had to be saved without his initiative.

Anyhow, more to be said! You see this country, it is a mess and getting worse daily. I could write a book highlighting the 23 interviews I had before fluking a Deputy Post; Or the three panels that were changed just to ensure that a troublemaker like me does not get an administrative position. Yes! Remember it was first the Governing Bodies that did the interviews. Then when Parkinson was up for grabs, between the first and second interviews it changed to a Special Panel made up of big boys from Ministry, Erdiston, UWI, two Board members and such. Then when Princess Margaret was up, again between the first and second interviews the panel then changed to the Commissioners without a single Board member being even informed. (Not that that made any difference to the song and dance that went on when I retired). Foundation, Ellerslie twice, St. George, Combermere and the list goes on.

Unfortunately, I was never a yes man, something which is required in many situations. I find it impossible to be present in the midst of nonsense going on called a “Status Quo” and the amount of people who don’t have the guts to come out and say anything. Well I always had guts. It’s going down now since I lost some weight. By the way, this is not political either since as you would have noticed, my demise was shared between both parties. So it would have to be me! I remember when a Deputy Chief education Officer called me in to her office to tell me that while I am tutoring at Erdiston College in Strategic Planning to Principals by the way, I must not say anything against the Ministry even if it is true. And you believe they have that in the Public Service Act too?

I have a lot more to say but I will pause and come again. I will not close however without challenging any member who sat on a panel to interview me over the last 10 years to really come out and expose the foolishness that goes on in this country, damaging and destroying the lives and psyches of many seriously-minded and hard-working individuals in this country. Using the word “Recommendation” to imply that it can be accepted or refused. All set up for ulterior motives to satisfy friends and cohorts like those now at the Ministry, names best left unsaid. I can’t forget the campaign manager of a minister that got a school one week before elections were called. Yeah. That was one that lick me up too!

My friend Mrs. Thompson, may she rest in peace, former Chairman of a Governing Body, was able to tell me something before her passing. Who else has the guts, the fortitude or the resolve? The seven years of secrecy have passed. Or do we remain a country of carpets and brooms, sweeping away the truths. By the way, more on the Minister to come! Yes sir, I am Mr. Ting as said to me at several meetings. This “devil” says: Please learn to pronounce your “th” as though it were not a “d”. Stop making up words on the people’s T.V. Were you a teacher or not? Which subject, I cannot imagine. A Union leader? Really!

Gone, but not for long!


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159 responses to “Wayne Willock – Time to Speak Out”


  1. It isn’t only the schools but it’s the whole country. The leader is lousy.


  2. @bookmark

    Anticipated your predictable reaction, thankfully others appreciate Poonka entering the debate given his insider experience.

    Enjoy lunch!

    On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 4:19 PM, Barbados Underground wrote:

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  3. David May 15, 2016 at 12:13 PM #
    Please note Wayne Willocks article has gone viral on Facebook

    Link?


  4. @bookworm

    You still with us? Take BU’s word for it, we never share our dashboard states.


  5. @ David
    In addition to GP’s, the point that de Dribbler made is also very valid.

    There is a time and a place for everything. A soldier spends much time learning to march in line, and in time, however, on a battlefield, only a confused moron would seek to implement such skills…

    The fancy language and syntax is best left for the victory parade…. like GP’s Latin…
    This is why Jones (having won the ministry) should be marching in time…. and DESERVES to be laughed at for being out of step…

    On BU, we are seeking to win vital battles, we are in the trenches; taking fire, cussing bad as shiite, and living rough …. drill is not an issue here… Poonka is therefore ‘shotting’…

    What IS an issue is the WHOLE policy of national education….
    How much sense does it make to continue spending $400-500M every year on a system that CLEARLY has become dysfunctional and non-productive?

    Is Poonka’s experience the norm throughout the system? (..and everyone who have any inside knowledge knows it is even worse than he outlined…)

    What are our options?


  6. @Bush Tea

    Agree with your analogy, apt indeed. The BU household has interacted with a senior teacher who has corroborated Poonka’s exposition. Let us level our collective review on the system. We can retreat to being absorbed with the Queen or King’s English on anther occasion.


  7. @ Georgie Porgie

    And they said that these languages Greek then Latin “were dead” yet, and you would appreciate this, (and I wonder why Jeff does not too) it is absolutely incorrect to say “contrary with”

    THe thing that you can and will appreciate better that 99 percent of us here is what CNN has now made and accepted verb globally, and incorrectly, i.e. “the news team team (animate) was embedded into (a verb which cannot be ascribed to an animate thing) the squadron for ongoing coverage of the war torn region”

    Time dilutes many things so one can expect that the LOL, SMH, and WTF will be the norm in times to come but what Bookworm says is correct, let us not give our affable and devoted colleague Wayne a pass on that aspect of things.

    We are unrelenting with others, so Poonka, can’t get a pass.

    @ Wayne

    Having said that you will assuredly address these shortcomings in your remarks per the many ministers of Edukashun under whom you have toiled.

    You have chronicled sooooo many things that are wrong or are problematic within our education system, each one a tome in itself.

    You (nor your father before you) are not (was never) a man to “hide wunna mouth”

    Undoubtedly immediately as you start to speak here you can be assured that you will attract the ire of all those persons who served on those boards of which you spoke and who will, under the anonymity of the BU Blog, come rushing in to discredit your topic of interest.

    I have heard of British ex-pats at leading schools in this country beat black boys and indians (Karnani) because of the privilege afforded to that colour so to my fellow music lover Hants, I too can speak of circumstances where, had it been me, I too would have been expelled.

    Becaues (which by the way should never start a sentence) you have come here, sand pseudonym< and therefore cannot name names the parties to these crimes remain protected by the “threat” of defamation lawsuit so Principal and Secretary/Treasurer can continue to fleece the school of any resources that they so choose BECAUSE (needless repetition) no one will rise to bell the cat.

    And therein lies the quandary Wayne.

    We have become a nation that is fearful of speaking the truth because IT SHALL NOT SET US FREE but will get us sued to our graves or into DODDS.

    And what are the solutions IF, the very problems that you highlight, ARE ALLOWED TO EXIT AND PERSIST, SANS RECOURSE?

    Oh what a tangled web we seem to be caught in!


  8. Obviously Willocks is well known to folks hence the affectionate pet name of “Poonka” referred to by some respondents. He may call himself a “trouble maker” but to the powers that be he is considered a whistle blower and his fate should be an object lesson to whistle blowers everywhere that although tolerated and even praised by others, the Establishment (no matter who is in charge) distrusts them, takes a dim view of their actions and considers them a threat and will go all out to ensure that their career aspirations are thwarted.

    So boys and girls “buck” the system all you want in the end a few friends will support you, but they will be the ones advancing while you will be left behind twiddling your thumbs.


  9. @David Bush Tea, Well Well.
    Shouldn’t a teacher who wants to submit a document; regardless of purpose, ensure that EVERYTHING about it is correct; spelling, syntax, grammar, sentence construction etc? HIS CONTRIBUTION IS NOT ONLY SUBJECT TO SCRUTINY AND ANALYSIS in Barbados only,, but worldwide. Wayne’s contribution shows a lack of preparation, a certain (high) degree of indifference to the manner of writing and a general lack of concern for who will read it. The objective seems to be a desire to “get it off his chest” with no attention to how it is put over. Those who want to “excuse” it and get to the “content” are as guilty as he. How can he as a senior teacher condone, or correct his students who would submit an essay with the same errors. Is this symptomatic of the same teaching we want to correct? Shouldn’t the standards be excellence, and not sloppiness? It seems that as long as barbs are aimed at the government people are willing to overlook everything else, and accept anything. Wayne is (was) a senior teacher, and therefore should be able to set, and adhere to, standards of excellence in students and himself.Anything less than that should not be acceptable or accepted.


  10. @Alvin Cummins

    You may (not can) have the last word.

    JA


  11. @Minister Ronald Jones

    The BU household is accutely aware you are an avid reader of BU an other social platforms, why not give us a comment? How do you propose to address the problems that have become endemic in the education system? You comment is critical given that you have had oversight for the last 8 years.


  12. People like Alvin Cummings are what is wrong with Barbados.

    Like the proverbial lackeys, they consistently look past the substance and find minor fault. As though the ‘english’ language is theirs.

    These slaves ……………………… are worthy of death.


  13. Errata “an accepted verb, remove second “team’, forthcoming remarks, not remarks, white British Ex-Pat teachers, because not becaues, SANS pseudonym, not “sand pseudonym”Name parties” not name names parties” and finally to exist” not to exit”

    I think faster than I type.

    Maybe just maybe, while Wayne was composing his normally studies compositions, he was so impassioned by the subject at hand that he just let it flow and DID NOT GO BACK to correct what this medium of writing CANNOT DO JUSTICE TO.

    What he has written hits the spot right on and now we may be inclined to debate the content and leave his errata alone but then again de ole man does rant nuff en ting (dat is bad english ent it?)


  14. We need to get the names of all those who were appointed to the interviewing panels. We are aware many are political appointees. We need to address this issue because it stands in the way of nurturing meritocracy in the system. Bear in mind it will come back to bite a chuck out of the ass when national productivity is measured.

    I have a lot more to say but I will pause and come again. I will not close however without challenging any member who sat on a panel to interview me over the last 10 years to really come out and expose the foolishness that goes on in this country, damaging and destroying the lives and psyches of many seriously-minded and hard-working individuals in this country. Using the word “Recommendation” to imply that it can be accepted or refused. All set up for ulterior motives to satisfy friends and cohorts like those now at the Ministry, names best left unsaid. I can’t forget the campaign manager of a minister that got a school one week before elections were called. Yeah. That was one that lick me up too!


  15. “studied compositions not studies composition” (predictive text)


  16. That is it the point Blogmaster!!

    That is the point!!

    Change through action, not all the lotta long talk…Action!!

  17. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    RE Maybe just maybe, while Wayne was composing his normally studies compositions, he was so impassioned by the subject at hand that he just let it flow and DID NOT GO BACK to correct what this medium of writing CANNOT DO JUSTICE TO.

    MANY OF US DO JUST THIS DAILY ON BU, AND HAVE DONE SO FOR YEARS

    ALL THAT HAS HAPPENED IS THAT WILLOCK’S INFO IS CRUSHING PEOPLE’S TOES

    SOME FOLK CAN NOT BRING ANYTHING OF SUBSTANCE TO BU, OR ANYWHERE ELSE IN BIM. SO WE ABUSE BU TO NIT PICK………ESPECIALLY THE DLP YARDFOWLS

  18. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    COOL IT PIECE
    WE ARE NOT GOING TO CRUSH YOU FOR YOU ERRATA LOL

  19. Jeff Cumberbatch Avatar
    Jeff Cumberbatch

    @ Bookworm,

    “Years ago when I was P.R.O. and then President of the B.S.T.U. this issue of violence against teachers raised its head and from then till now, some 18 years later”.

    Not to belabour the point, but apart from some missed punctuation marks here perhaps, can the reader not understand what Mr Willock means by this?

    “Something is wrong, when systems can so protect themselves and are therefore impervious to any form of internal transformation, regardless of circumstances. Something is wrong!”

    It might reasonably be argued that you are equally guilty!

  20. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    David, I suggest that Alvin’s should not be the last word. Give that to Pieces and Pacha viz: “…What he has written hits the spot right on” and “People like Alvin Cummings are what is wrong with Barbados.”

    I believe Jeff said it best earlier when he suggested that Willock was so impassioned he almost rushed to get his words out.

    Blogging is all about messaging to an audience caught up in the hustle of too many words and too little time. For those of us who remember (a much slimmer, LOL) Poonka being all over the place with his ‘Landship style & fashion’ calypso I suggest that this piece exactly HIT the spot,

    And for the man’s ability to use poetic license in meter, grammar and tone to GRAB attention he was EXACTLY apropos: He was brash, certainly stylistically different and in some sense innovative.

    I read this as a man who knows what he wants to do. And who adopted the style in which to do it….

    Anyone who can massage the musical art form as he did (so differently) and is an instructor for other professionals MUST take his work seriously and MUST know when not to end sentences with a preposition.

    Did Mr Bookworm stop to look at his style of the sometimes staccato (pow, pow, pow) words. Not unlike that old calypso I thought. Or was he only focused on traditional constructs? Poonka got real lashes wid that ‘calypso’ too as I recall.

    I suggest the nitpickers and the Alvins are deliberately missing the message.

    And BTW that other point made is also pellucid: Bajans can generally only safely ‘whiste-blow’ AFTER they retire. And even then they have to be wary.


  21. @JC

    “Something is wrong, when systems can so protect themselves and are therefore impervious to any form of internal transformation, regardless of circumstances. Something is wrong!”

    It might reasonably be argued that you are equally guilty!

    I agreed with the poster,I did not post this. You neglected to copy the whole text.

    We may disagree about the original posting style but at least we can agree that he raised some valid points,something that I have never disputed. Something that many on here, including David, have failed to recognise.


  22. Poonka was known from school days as an independent thinker, he was a lil different from the norm, some might say even by HC standards.

    Poonka is not the only HC product to be discriminated against because he can think, wants to be honest and straightforward—not in Bim, the bigger Ups will demand one tows the line no matter how wrong that would be.

    Several have been screwed over by the Biggest Ups in Govt, at UWI, at the Central Bank, in the Min of Ed—all bout de place. That is the way of Political types, many are closet Dictators!


  23. Well, well, well, I tip my hat in respect to your original post @Bookworm. Here we have Mr Willock submitting an explosive article on the workings of the Ministry of Education and some of the flaws involving favoritism, prejudices and a general lack of professional standards in the administration of an effective system of education.

    You have cleverly and with deliberate intent chosen to submit a red herring of immense proportions and hereinafter, subsequent posters have disregarded the immensity of Mr Willock’s post and instead chosen to discuss your non-issue. Congratulations!

    Now if you would be so kind as to do the same with Cahill, Transport Board, BWA, Housing, Rockhard etc, your handlers will be eternally grateful.

    Can you imagine, a MoE who is probably the worst this nation has ever seen and we are here discussing the grammatical correctness of a letter submitted by an insider…. and here too am I swallowing your bait and drinking your cool aid.

  24. Jeff Cumberbatch Avatar
    Jeff Cumberbatch

    “The child has to be expelled from that school and not from the educational system as some people would want to determine. This is because the teacher involved and the student cannot exist in the same environment simultaneously. It would leave the student as a hero, something which I have seen done on several occasions.”

    To discuss matters of substance, I cannot agree with this. “Due Process” cannot have a foreclosed result.Equity would require that the teacher be also subject to expulsion, once the facts have been ascertained.


  25. @Jeff

    Perhaps what Poonka means is that after due process the child must be expelled, the position held by the BSTU. As part of said process if the teacher is deemed to be guilty then a similar recommendation/action would have to be taken.

  26. Jeff Cumberbatch Avatar
    Jeff Cumberbatch

    Yes, David, but the second part is frequently left unsaid, and I am not aware that the Education Regulations make provision for the expulsion of a teacher. She would have to be criminally charged, I suppose. You cannot have an imperative foregone result as in “the child MUST be expelled after due process”. In that case, the “process” would not be DUE!


  27. @Jeff

    Not expelled but transferred.

    It brings into light the recommendations of the Frederick Waterman Alexander Commission report. Whither those recommendation by the MoE and government? When the unions get antsy understand why!


  28. Here is Mary Redman’s, president of the BSTU, response on FB to this submission.

    Mary-anne Redman David …right here fighting the good fight against much of what has been said by Poonka ….and against much more as yet unsaid …. and doing it with little public support

    Unlike · Reply · 1 · 36 mins

  29. Jeff Cumberbatch Avatar
    Jeff Cumberbatch

    David, I might ask wherefrom the authority to transfer a pupil involuntarily? I note that the Regulation provides for suspension and expulsion. Even so, the foreclosure of the outcome is what I find to militate against due process, not necessarily the result itself.

  30. Sunshine Sunny Shine Avatar
    Sunshine Sunny Shine

    If Poonka wrote as Poonka and was making a general statement on the blog, it’s all grammatically accepted even if it is wrong. If Mr. Willock, however, is providing insight into his debacle with the ministry and the status quo system that has existed from time in memorial, he should have ensured that he followed the rules of grammar. His status as a retired educator should be one that proves his level of education to write with some degree of clarity, takes a certain amount of precedence over any active ill-will he may have about the system. Mr. Willock produced an article for BU to read. Unless he had intended to write in dialectic phrases or discoursed that was meant to be disconnected and disjointed, he should have written this article better. Be that as it may, the meaning is understood, and the points reinforced what we already know about the operatives who are working on behave of themselves, their political masters, and who are slaves bought with positions and money to protect the broken system that they masters have nicely carved out for all who want to be a part of it.


  31. George Braff
    Exactly correct!

  32. Colonel Buggy Avatar

    Why is it that in Barbados, whether its the Police Force, the Civil Service , the teaching service or any other entity within the government service, that many people can find their voices, only after retirement………….or a visit to New York.


  33. @Colonel Buggy

    We dealt with this above.There is a code of behaviour public servants must comply. Take for example Charles Morris as a very extreme example.

  34. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Alvin…get a life, in my haste to get across what I want to say before I forget, after all I do have a life, I forget to punctuate, correct, edit, sometimes I forget to type whole words…only you would believe ya perfect. ..the dude is retired, he is not your slave, he does not have to do anything…including giving you perfect prose…get a life.

    What you ought to do is tell Jones to pay attention to the decades old nastiness imbedded in the ministry of education that obviouly has a negative effect and dangerous impact on how the schools are being managed…that’s more important than pimpimg behind a few commas.


  35. Very powerful and touching Wayne. Too many hyprocrites and devil in the Public Service, and too many corrupt uncaring Politicians running the country. They have destroyed our beloved Island. We have reach the point of no return.

  36. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Besides…yall cant carry none of that crap to young people…I would be interacting with a 20 year old grandson I have in the US, asking him a question and he would be answering me with…k…ik…arg…idk…..lug…hus.,, all of that I have had to learn to decipher…the british really did not have to work hard to make idiots of grown black men…yall are a disrace.


  37. @David
    Perhaps what Poonka means is that after due process the child must be expelled,
    +++++++++
    What? So language does matter doesn’t it? That sounds like a Judge Roy Bean kind of justice “We will give him a fair trial and then hang him”.

  38. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    RE Colonel Buggy May 15, 2016 at 3:54 PM #
    Why is it that in Barbados, whether its the Police Force, the Civil Service , the teaching service or any other entity within the government service, that many people can find their voices, only after retirement………….or a visit to New York.

    THEY HAVE TO DO THIS OR THEY GET SCREWED
    FIRE MEN WHO ERR AND WHO LIVE IN ST LUCY ARE POSTED TO THE AIRPORT

    ONE NIGHT AN UNKNOWING PC STATIONED OUTSIDE POLICE HQ ARRESTED A DRUNK TRINIDADIAN UWI LECTURER WITH HIGH UP CONNECTIONS IN TRINIDAD FOR DRIVING UNDER THEE INFLUENCE IN THE WRONG DIRECTION. HE WAS BROUGHT TO SEE ME

    THE NEXT NIGHT THE SAME PC ACCOMPANIED SOMEONE TO ME. HE HAD ALREADY BEEN POSTED TO DISTRICT F FOR HIS “ERROR” THE NIGHT BEFORE.

    MY UNFORGIVEABLE SIN WAS TO HOOK A BOUNCER BOWLED AT ME IN DIST A COURT BY A CERTAIN LIZ THOMPSON. WHEN SHE BECAME MOH SHE TERMINATED MY CONTRACT


  39. @Sargeant

    Obviously if after due process the child is found guilty. Sometimes it is about applying context as well.


  40. @GP

    Why don’t you write a book?

    The Soliloquy of a Bajan MD you can name it.

  41. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    GP…dont worry…Liz is now a has been, petty minded little critter that she is, when she had power, she wanted all those who liv and worked in the US, to be refused any type of housing through government innitiatives, in her mind, any bajan going to the US to live and work, should return as millionares, while her slimy tail, born in the UK, was sucking taxpayer’s money for being slimy…the stupid heifer, I wonder if she returned as a millionaire from her very short stint at the UN…those dummies should be given neither titles nor positions.

    The funny things is, when Bjerkham, Maloney and the crooks built their boiling ovens at Coverly, many calls were made by NCH to find bajan buyers who lived in the US…. ironic huh.


  42. GP
    Did that UWI lecturer go on to make it big in T & T?

  43. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    dAVID

    LIZ was defending a lad who was shot while trying to rob GERTZ
    After I gave my evidence, she tried to cross examine me in the same loud bombastic way she had done to a constable who had not made proper notes.

    In the altercation with GERTZ the lad was shot on one of his legs.

    Liz demanded of me to SHOW HER WHERE HE WAS SHOT
    I responded quietly and quickly “WOULD YOU LIKE TO LEND ME ONE OF YOURS?”

    Magistrate Bend clapped his hands over his face and dropped his face onto the bench, while the Police Prosecutor SGT REUBEN WALKER shouted “DR DR CONTROL YOURSELF!”

    Control indeed. The ball went all along the ground between backward square and long leg

  44. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    Gabriel May 15, 2016 at 4:49 PM #
    GP
    Did that UWI lecturer go on to make it big in T & T?

    NO HE COMMITTED SUICIDE AFTER THE INDIGNITY OF SPENDING A NIGHT IN THE CELLS AT CENTRAL AND HAVING TO APPEAR IN THE DISTRICT A COURT.

    Truth is when first arrested, an elderly Sergeant who understood how to maintain the status quo released him. He promptly went outside and exposed himself why urinating outside Central. He was rearrested


  45. Any violent incident between a teacher and a student should be investigated and depending on the severity police should be involved.

    I am opposed to expulsion of students. It is better to provide counselling. Don’t send a child home to a likely unsupervised environment.

  46. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    David, if you are going to say “Obviously if after…” then we might as well start with guilty as charged. I understand clearly what you are suggesting – that any action takes place after the review- but this entire debate has been about ‘use of language’ so the word ‘OBVIOUSLY’ is loaded. LOL.

    But to the meat….considering the full extent of due process to which Jeff directs his legal attention the basic question still remains: under what or ANY circumstances can a student LEGITIMATELY be tussling with a teacher. How would he/she not be immediately suspended or even expelled (obviously after due process)!

    I know I will hear all the validators about rights and the students possibly being victimized etc etc but fighting is absolutely NOT the way forward. Similarly any teacher caught in fisticuffs with a student should be arrested within the criminal process.

    I do not understand how this (in a modern era) can be handled any differently.

    Is the student learning to use violence to resolve disputes with his boss in the workplace; and is the teacher offering him that ‘sage’ advice.

    — 2.The other questions from Willock’s policy recommendation.

    Is this ‘school’ for wayward boys/girls their home for the rest of their school career; are they streamlined into some non-academic work or do they continue their academics, and if so how; is it part school, part military boot-camp??

    What is the carrot to keep the students on premises and what is the stick to ensure they act properly.

    The issues are many but I expect Willock has thought this through in greater detail.

    These high risk kids must of course be identified continually and all the psychological and other assistance mandated to avoid these flareups. The recommendations – and I understand the frustration which drives it – sounds like a hard-edge PAREDOS for kids and particularly parents.

    My point is that institution like PAREDOS were started to move us away from exactly these type issues and solutions.

    The moment that kid is sent to the Govt Industrial School or whatever it’s called he or she is essentially a lost cause….and becomes a long term societal problem.


  47. Totally Off Topic

    Just watched a powerful and moving documentary on Nina Simone, What Happened, Miss Simone?, on Netflix. Among other things, it made me realise how much “controversial” music Redifusion withheld from us in the 60’s. I guess they thought that some of her songs would have made the natives restless. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I can’t remember hearing Billy Holiday’s Strange Fruit on Redifusion.


  48. @ GP
    He was literally pissing drunk.Sardines……Reminds me of an incident in Grenada.I was on the road from Grenville and saw a known car number parked.I stopped to enquire if all was well and this former known-to-me UWI lecturer was pissing drunk and peeing on the back of his car.Only in the Caribbean!He was at that time a Minister in the Grenada government.
    I think you should take up David’s suggestion.You have a story to tell,as does Poonka.


  49. Did not know the amount of years exactly Wayne.

    Believe de Ole Man that (as long as the Lord Spares Breath) and wunna tek me out de cross hairs of the Remingtons dat still missing, DERE IS MORE TO COME.

    Of the many things de ole man was taught was how to destroy.

    And, in the same vein that wunna have destroyed me and tek whu is mine, I gine tek whu wunna got, wid extreme prejudice.

    If one uh wunna gets a job after dis 10 years of pestilence wunna wreak pun po’ Bajans me name ent “Piece uh de Rock Yeah Right”.

    OOOps dat wasn’t de correct construct was it?

    Anyways wunna dun know whu de ole man mean….

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