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Over recent days some American political elites, from the republican wing of the one-party state, have been feigning a run for cover from Hitlery. They have been representing the emergence of Donald โ€˜Adolf Hitlerโ€™ Trump as a significant departure from the political culture. We will contend that there are no substantive differences between the elites and that the advent of both Hillary and Hitlery are eminently predictable sociological outcomes.

We have argued for more than 15 years that the American systems are unavoidably fascist by their very nature. Having reached that conclusion, for us, it was merely a matter of time, when not how, the obvious inheritors of the mantle of Adolf Hitler would emerge and take their rightful place in the political system. For they have always controlled much of the culture.

The American political culture is characterized by the enduring influence of genocide, the slave economy model, the continued lionization of slavers at the centre of the national life, quest for global empire and governing systems informed by these histories. Dominant histories of โ€˜victorsโ€™ and criminals, in power.

Present day actors are direct inheritors of the legacies of fascism, criminality, murder, genocide, gambling, prostitution, election rigging at home and abroad, support of despots and all other forms of immorality in high places.

Trumpโ€™s grandfather was a brothel keeping during the California/Alaska gold rush. In other words, he was mining the miners. Now, he wants to save coal mining in West Virginia! Mining is a family business, it seems. At a time when, we all know, that our Mother can take no more pollution. The women Trump pretends to love must look like Barbie dolls, a perfect ten. And of course, they must not be too bright but are to adhere to the standards of the Hitlerian decree – blonde and blue-eyed, from Germanic stock. For in his eyes these are the only women who could be beautiful, not Mother Nature.

Trumpโ€™s father was arrested on Long Island at a gathering of Nazi sympathizers, during war. And this was no aberration. Prescod Bush, father and grandfather of two former presidents who are not pretending to distance Trump, like most American industrialists, openly supported Adolf Hitler, to the end. Henry Ford, the car-maker, argued strenuously for American support for Nazi Germany. While others fought for an American policy of non-intervention or the denial of American help to the British as they fought against Hitler. Including in the group was arguably the best known American of that time, the socialite and aviator, Charles Lindbergh. They were all shameless supporters of fascism.

Other leading American figures supporting Adolf Hitler were John Rockefeller, there is still a Rockefeller in the US Senate today, another Rockefeller was governor of New York. David Rockefeller, banker, has been for decades a leading hidden-government, Knights of Malta, Council of Foreign Relations, figure. Allen Dulles, he and his brother constructed the modern CIA and among other things overthrew the government of Iran (1953) and were implicated in the assassination of JFK. The Dulles brothers masterminded โ€œOperation Paperclipโ€™ to bring German scientists and other leading Nazis to the USA and countries in South America after Hitlerโ€™s defeat. The father of JFK himself was, like Donald Trump, a known associate of the mob and a Hitler supporter. He made his money during prohibition.

It was IBMโ€™s technology which made Hitlerโ€™s train to run on time to the gas chambers at Auschwitz and elsewhere. IBM supplied the punch card technology for Hitler to keep track of his โ€˜undesirablesโ€™. Other leading American corporations and financial institutions bankrolled the Nazis. Hitler himself, admitted that his ideas of โ€˜racial purityโ€™ were largely derived from the American experience โ€“ the genocide of tens of millions of First Nations peoples, the enslavement of โ€˜Africansโ€™. Hitlerโ€™s cheap labour attracted American corporate capital, not unlike how it does to this day. The eugenicist movement was largely an American project, transplanted into Germany, and attracted support from many of its leading citizens.

Trump himself represents all that is good and bad about the USA. For there are few other places in the world where his grandfather, with little else than the clothes on his back, could produce a grandson as a billionaire and presidential candidate from a leading political party for the office of biggest criminal-in-wait. And we are warning you, Trump will use nuclear weapons just for the fun of it.

Hillaryโ€™s ancestral baggage is no less profane. She must know of the drug running of her husband for the CIA and as Governor of Arkansas. Hillary herself was once a proud โ€˜Goldwater girlโ€™. Her support for the 1964 Republican presidential ambitions of a rabid, racist, Barry Goldwater is conveniently airbrushed out of the narratives. She, not unlike Trump, talks about this like some misguidance of youth. And she can therefore, never be brought to account for this misdeed. We have to remember that this Republican, Hillary Clinton, made the determination to support a racist at the height of the civil rights movement. Today she will now be seeking to control 100% of the votes of the so-called โ€˜African-Americansโ€™. What irony!

As genocidaire, Hillary helped to build the narrative of โ€˜Blackโ€™ men as โ€˜predatorsโ€™. That recent (1990โ€™s) narration landed hundreds of thousands of โ€˜Blackโ€™ men in Americaโ€™s dungeons. With her chicken-headed cackle she found glee that her paid gangsters would rape and murder a head of a sovereign state โ€“ President Muammar Khadafy. โ€˜We came, we saw, and he diedโ€™ was her refrain. There can be no better example of the utterly sociopathic, socialpathic, narcissistic, schizophrenic nature of the collective American mind. This deprave lack of empathy as a precondition for success, for victory at any cost. But the masses of people are generally no different. We are sure to find millions of stupid people calling her lovingly โ€ฆโ€ฆ โ€˜Hillaryโ€™. As though she and them are any friends. Now that, is the other side of the absence of empathy. Like slaves, โ€˜Blackโ€™ people, especially, can always be made to love those, who hate them most.

While political elites in the USA continue to misguide the masses with their pretense that Donald Trump is not one of them, we KNOW that the back channels have been already paved and demands for their placeholders have already been accepted by Trump. This system has been constructed to make any president inert. And the elites know this well. So while Hitler is out there talking shite they will make sure that he will not be able to do anything which the elites donโ€™t want him to do. In essence, they will allow him to talk as much as he wants but they will control every decision he makes. Trump will not be able to even go to the bathroom without a permission slip, we forecast, whether or not he wins.

And that squeaky voice one, Hillary, who is seen as the shoo-in. We assess that her, sometimes gerrymandering, traditional, bureaucratic campaign will be stretched to its outer limits by the maverick, unscripted, guerrilla marketing style of a Trump. We judge that Trump will make a better thief of an election than Romney’s facile attempt. There are few responses Hillary could use to confront, what she would term as political madness. It is in these swamps of political madness that Trump would best find victory. Working against a perceived establishment with an insurgency campaign. However, whoever wins, the elites win! Not the rednecks form Appalachia nor the ghetto queens from Brownsville. The elites and the elites alone!


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194 responses to “Hillary or Hitlery – As American as Apple Pie”


  1. TRUMP AND HILLARY IN A BAR
    Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are in a bar. Donald leans over, and With A smile on his face, says, “The media are really tearing you apart for That Scandal.”
    Hillary: “You mean my lying about Benghazi?”
    Trump: “No, the other one.”
    Hillary: “You mean the massive voter fraud?”
    Trump: “No, the other one.”
    Hillary: “You mean the military not getting their votes counted?”
    Trump: “No, the other one.”
    Hillary: “Using my secret private server with classified material to Hide my Activities?”
    Trump: “No, the other one.”
    Hillary: “The NSA monitoring our phone calls, emails and everything Else?”
    Trump: “No, the other one.”
    Hillary: “Using the Clinton Foundation as a cover for tax evasion, Hiring Cronies,
    And taking bribes from foreign countries?
    Trump: “No, the other one.”
    Hillary: “You mean the drones being operated in our own country without
    The Benefit of the law?”
    Trump: “No, the other one.”
    Hillary: “Giving 123 Technologies $300 Million, and right afterward it
    Declared Bankruptcy and was sold to the Chinese?”
    Trump: “No, the other one.”
    Hillary: “You mean arming the Muslim Brotherhood and hiring them in the White House?”
    Trump: “No, the other one.”
    Hillary: “Whitewater, Watergate committee, Vince Foster, commodity Deals?”
    Trump: “No the other one:”
    Hillary: “The IRS targeting conservatives?”
    Trump: “No the other one:”
    Hillary: “Turning Libya into chaos?”
    Trump: “No the other one:”
    Hillary: “Trashing Mubarak, one of our few Muslim friends?”
    Trump: “No the other one:”
    Hillary: “Turning our backs on Israel?”
    Trump: “No the other one:”
    Hillary: “The joke Iran Nuke deal? ”
    Trump: “No the other one:”
    Hillary: “Leaving Iraq in chaos? ”
    Trump: “No, the other one.”
    Hillary: “The DOJ spying on the press?”
    Trump: “No, the other one.”
    Hillary: “You mean HHS Secretary Sibelius shaking down health insurance Executives?”
    Trump: “No, the other one.”
    Hillary: “Giving our cronies in SOLYNDRA $500 MILLION DOLLARS and 3 Months
    Later they declared bankruptcy and then the Chinese bought it?”
    Trump: “No, the other one.”
    Hillary: “The NSA monitoring citizens’ ?”
    Trump: “No, the other one.”
    Hillary: “The State Department interfering with an Inspector General Investigation on departmental sexual misconduct?”
    Trump: “No, the other one.”
    Hillary: “Me, The IRS, Clapper and Holder all lying to Congress?”
    Trump: “No, the other one.”
    Hillary: “Threats to all of Bill’s former mistresses to keep them quiet”
    Trump: “No, the other one.”
    Hillary: “I give up! … Oh wait, I think I’ve got it! When I stole the White House furniture, silverware and China when Bill left Office?”
    Trump: “THAT’S IT! I almost forgot about that one”.

    Everything above is true. Yet she still gets the Democratic votes. Could there be that many stupid people in this country???

  2. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Yes there are billions of stupid people out there willing to be political pimps, political slaves and volunteer to be used, just as long as they can identify with and seen as supporting what they preceive to be wealthy criminals.

    The larger countries never stopped using Hitler’s experiments, makes one wonder why he was really forced to exterminate himself.


  3. Trump has given a great gift to the world..! He has opened up the true thinking of White American Supremacy! Hitler also gave a great gift to the world, Germany attitude to Non-German..! We’re now seeing it again on the streets of Germany, protesting against refugees..! Hitler’s legacy live on..!


  4. Who expected Trump to still be standing today? He started with 17 opponents do not forget. It is obvious we have to throwout the traditional playbook.


  5. Shaft
    Germany is run by a leftist born in East Germany who was absolutely stupid to permit vast numbers of refugees into the country. Many of those are Radical Muslims. Those refugees should never have needed to come West because when Obama threatened to deal with Assad if he stepped over the line and then did NOT ACT he was shown to be a joker.
    The refugees should be temporarily housed in the ME and Turkey and ISIS and Assad should be utterly DESTROYED by massive force so that the Syrians can return home and rebuild their country.

    Trump is NOT a White Supremacist, that is Democrip propaganda. Trump understands that working people and those WILLING to work must have JOBS, there are Millions sitting at home, millions having to work 3 jobs to make ends meet.

    Employee Drops Bombshell About Trump. I wanted to share it with you.
    http://www.conservativeoutfitters.com/blogs/news/100907393-black-female-employee-drops-bombshell-about-trump

  6. Green Monkey Avatar

    Somnolent Europe, Russia, and China โ€” Can the world wake up?
    Paul Craig Roberts

    On September 19, 2000, going on 16 years ago, Ambrose Evans-Pritchard of the London Telegraph reported:

    โ€œDeclassified American government documents show that the US intelligence community ran a campaign in the Fifties and Sixties to build momentum for a united Europe. It funded and directed the European federalist movement.

    The documents confirm suspicions voiced at the time that America was working aggressively behind the scenes to push Britain into a European state. One memorandum, dated July 26, 1950, gives instructions for a campaign to promote a fully fledged European parliament. It is signed by Gen. William J. Donovan, head of the American wartime Office of Strategic Services, precursor of the CIA.โ€

    The documents show that the European Union was a creature of the CIA. telegraph.coDOTuk/news/worldnews/europe/1356047/Euro-federalists-financed-by-US-spy-chiefs.html

    As I have previously written, Washington believes that it is easier to control one government,
    the EU, than to control many separate European governments. As Washington has a long term investment in orchestrating the European Union, Washington is totally opposed to any country exiting the arrangement. That is why President Obama recently went to London to tell his lapdog, the British Prime Minister, that there could be no British exit.

    Continued at:
    http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/05/05/somnolent-europe-russia-and-china-paul-craig-roberts/

    My own opinion, for what it’s worth, is that if Trump were to be elected and then seriously attempted to introduce policies seriously contradicting the neoliberal/neoconservative policies followed by both Bush and Obama if he could not be removed from office by exposing some real or trumped up (excuse the pun) scandal, Donald Trump would meet the same fate as JFK after the Pentagon brass and war hawk establishment found out he was negotiating behind the scenes and without their approval with Soviet leader Khrushchev. JFK and Khrushchev had started using unofficial channels to negotiate directly with each other to avoid a mutually feared WWIII nuclear holocaust. Kennedy and Khrushchev both had come to the conclusion their generals were operating on the assumption that war between the USA and the USSR was inevitable and were consequently “hell-bent on war” and consequently pressure was building on both leaders to start WWIII, unleash the nukes, and sort out once and for all which side was going to emerge as top dog over the smoking ruins. To the anti-Soviet establishment and Pentagon brass JFK’s actions were tantamount to unconditional surrender to the enemy. See the book JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He died and Why It Matters by James Douglass.

    Quote from a review of the book JFK and the Unspeakable:

    These clear refusals to go to war and his decision to engage in private, back-channel communications with Cold War enemies marked Kennedy as an enemy of the national security state. They were on a collision course. As Douglass and others have pointed out, every move Kennedy made was anti-war. This, Douglass argues, was because JFK, a war hero, had been deeply affected by the horror of war and was severely shaken by how close the world had come to destruction during the Cuban missile crisis. Throughout his life he had been touched by death and had come to appreciate the fragility of life. Once in the Presidency, Kennedy underwent a deep metanoia, a spiritual transformation, from Cold Warrior to peace maker. He came to see the generals who advised him as devoid of the tragic sense of life and as hell-bent on war. And he was well aware that his growing resistance to war had put him on a dangerous collision course with those generals and the CIA. On numerous occasions he spoke of the possibility of a military coup dโ€™etat against him. On the night before his trip to Dallas, he told his wife, โ€œBut, Jackie, if somebody wants to shoot me from a window with a rifle, nobody can stop it, so why worry about it.โ€ And we know that nobody did try to stop it because they had planned it.

    SNIP

    Fear and uncertainty block a true appraisal of the assassination โ€“ that plus the thought that it no longer matters.

    It matters. For we know that no president since JFK has dared to buck the military-intelligence-industrial complex. We know a Pax Americana has spread its tentacles across the globe with U.S. military in over 130 countries on 750 plus bases. We know that the amount of blood and money spent on wars and war preparations has risen astronomically.

    There is a great deal we know and even more that we donโ€™t want to know, or at the very least, investigate.

    Full review at:
    globalresearchDOTca/jfk-and-the-unspeakable-why-he-died-and-why-it-matters/16273


  7. @Moneybrain
    Employee Drops Bombshell About Trump. I wanted to share it with you
    ++++++++++++
    Who knew there was such a thing called โ€œConservative Outfittersโ€? Do they sell white hoods? Overalls with matching toothpicks? Toupees to hide that bald spot? Underwear that is sure to bunch into knots? Dog whistles for the conservative man? Bumper stickers that proclaim โ€œ1860 was a good yearโ€?

    Future articles: Trumps Household help expresses their love for him โ€˜he knows my nameโ€™ -The Mexican gardener, โ€œHe really loves the way I cook his eggsโ€ – his Thai Cook, โ€œHe really loves the way I starch his collarsโ€ Trumps Filipino maid.

    Read it here first.


  8. George Carlin – Who Really Controls America (video, contains loud swearing)

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article14837.htm


  9. I stand with those who say that Trump is no white supremacist, and would certainly be the lesser of two evils for African-American men, because Hillary is both a Goldwater racist and a man-hating, lesbian feminist. African-American women are facing a very complicated situation, but it’s hard to condemn them for choosing Hillary.
    Trump should not be despised for attacking trade deals that have impoverished certain groups in America, nor should he be attacked for proposing a wall and mass deportations of Mexicans. Mexicans have swarmed into the United States in numbers that would have provoked a reaction from even the most reasonable person. If the shoe were on the other foot …

  10. Sunshine Sunny Shine Avatar
    Sunshine Sunny Shine

    David

    I expected Trump to be still standing. It is was a foregone conclusion. He presented the type of nitpicking that would have appeal to certain people’s emotions. Does not matter how much shite he talk or how much violence he stirs, a large portion of the American white population likes what he is saying and doing.


  11. “Like slaves, โ€˜Blackโ€™ people, especially, can always be made to love those, who hate them most”

    Have we not experienced the same right here before our eyes shades of ‘what mirror image do we see of our ourselves ‘ poignantly demeaning to me as a black man to the core but embraced and trumpeted as uplifting philosophical discourse and/or boldly acclaiming my purported Jewish ancestry for the world to hear ‘My name Barrow is derived from the jewish name Baruch” yet adored and beloved by those he so despised.


  12. @SSS

    You are correct -you refer to it as nitpicking- however, what he has done is to deliver a message easily understood by a large population which has an emotional appeal.


  13. Excellent commentary Pacha. You have adequately covered the sins of both candidates and not like some of us conveniently overlook the sores of those we favour.


  14. @Green Monkey, good commentary. Question, which recent President, a young CIA man (subsequent head of CIA), is in a photograph, showing him on the steps of the Texas Book Depository on the morning of JFK’s assassination?

    Strange world indeed.


  15. Pacha, a correction, Prescott Bush, not an industrialist, but a principal of Harriman Brothers, investment bankers and with many clients from Nazi Germany.

    Where did that money go? It did not just disappear.

  16. Green Monkey Avatar

    Trumpโ€™s Dupes Stunned As He Appoints Goldman Sachs and Soros Veteran Mnuchin As Campaign Finance Chairman

    Television commentators are now wasting their time offering helpful, constructive suggestions on how the Republicans might be saved. Such advice is mightily wrongheaded: the responsibility of patriotic citizens is now to hurry the GOP on the way to its inevitable and well-deserved doom before it can inflict more harm in the service of its crackpot ideologies. There will be time after that to consummate the obvious split of the Democratic Party between pro-Wall Street and anti-Wall Street parties , which is coming to the fore increasingly in the conflict between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders.

    In addition, the dupes and useful idiots who have been drawn into the Trump orbit by such operatives as Roger Stone and his satellites have been stunned by this cynical nihilism of the fascist billionaire in naming Steven Mnuchin, the chairman and CEO of the private investment firm Dune Capital Management LP, and thus a full-fledged hedge fund hyena, as the national finance chairman of his presidential campaign.

    Many of Trumpโ€™s fanatical supporters had taken satisfaction in taunting clerical fascist Ted Cruz for the fact that his wife is an employee of Goldman Sachs. But Mnuchin worked at Goldman Sachs for 17 years, and became a partner in the firm. Mnuchin has also worked at Soros Fund Management, LLC, founded by the ultra left billionaire George Soros, whom the pro-Trump mob regards with justification as the devil incarnate. In the libertarian camp tonight, there is much wailing and gnashing of teeth.

    http://tarpley.net/ (page down to Morning Briefing for May 6)

  17. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ May 8, 2016 at 5:31 AM
    โ€œLike slaves, โ€˜Blackโ€™ people, especially, can always be made to love those, who hate them mostโ€ฆโ€
    Have we not experienced the same right here before our eyes shades of โ€˜what mirror image do we see of our ourselves โ€˜ poignantly demeaning to me as a black man to the core but embraced and trumpeted as uplifting philosophical discourse and/or boldly acclaiming my purported Jewish ancestry for the world to hear โ€˜My name Barrow is derived from the jewish name Baruchโ€ yet adored and beloved by those he so despised.โ€

    The Dipper was known to be at times ‘blessed’ with a fertile imagination whose product was designed to impress and even fool the ignorant masses and the pretentiously sycophant black Bajan intelligentsia (so-called).
    His menial stink in the RAF is a classic example of an embellished record of a war hero.

    The name โ€œBarrowโ€ (or Barrough) is as English as an overcast wintry day and standing in a grove in Barrow in Furness. Like the name โ€˜Hillโ€™ the โ€˜topographical name of โ€˜Barrowโ€™ is a relatively common occurrence on the English landscape of nomenclature.

    Maybe Skipper Baruch fancied himself as the greatest Bajan ever born and like Moses the concocted biblical hero of the enslaved Hebrews saw himself as โ€œBlessedโ€ and specially chosen by Yahweh to lead his people to the promised land of socio-economic Independence.

  18. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    MoneyB….as we all know, black people can be easily used to fit any agenda in saying that, the link below you posted cannot be accessed.

    http://www.conservativeoutfitters.com/blogs/news/100907393-black-female-employee-drops-bombshell-about-trump

    George Carlin gave ya the real deal about the US…at all times, sorry he is no longer with us.


  19. the funny about trump ideologies is that what he says to his supporters is in total contrast as to how he acquired his billions
    The Capitalist world that Trumps wheels and deals is an accumulation of all that he claims to disavow ,His stance on immigration legal and illegal is connected to capitalism and a nexus of wheeling and dealing through trade increasing profits for people like himself who are unrepentant and unapologetic capitalist
    He talks about unfair trading practices with china but such practices did not stop him from doing business in china in manufacturing and other business enterprises . Surely he cannot be serious about jobs leaving america and going to China .
    He talks about change and giving back america but the question is giving back america to who , Most sensible people would punished those words with laughter when one look at the ratio of wealth and those who own and control how the wealth is dispensed it would be a an untruth of biblical proportion to conclude that any ethic group or race other than whites owns america .
    Trump has become a modern day snake oil salesman who have enjoyed and relied on the fruits of a capitalist system a system that has served him well but now pretends that the system should be abandon only because it serves him well to say so as he takes another leap on his journey to the white house

  20. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    That would be George Bush, the wheelchair bound elder, the whole story already came out in deathbed confessions from those who could not die in peace and it was not spoken by the most evil of evil J. Edgar Hoover, he died miserable and alone.


  21. Cursoe
    Thanks, You are right!

  22. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    ” Trump should not be despised for attacking trade deals that have impoverished certain groups in America, nor should he be attacked for proposing a wall and mass deportations of Mexicans. Mexicans have swarmed into the United States in numbers that would have provoked a reaction from even the most reasonable person.”

    Chad…….One of your most stupid comments to date, seeing as Trump does the same thing, involved in the same trade deals, uses the same Mexicans as cheap labor to avoid paying taxes……and maybe you dont know for obvious reasons but that whole border California, Nevada, Texas, etc….was stolen from Mexico, so you are just a newbie, jumping on the bandwsgon and an immigrant to boot.

  23. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @MB, good humour or good oppo analysis. Clearly this will be a tumultuous campaign. Thus you are so right. We will see “many stupid people in this country” and beyond say and do some amazingly terrible things over the next several months.

    Incidentally, I appreciate Clinton’s (both) terrible faults but none of us here would be hard pressed to produce similar good humour on all Presidents (and final party nominees) going back to John Kennedy.

    I too wish we could get candidates that were not the same lying, cheating, duplicitous characters that make up the society from which all evolve.

    @SSS, I applaud your acuity on Trump. I thought that his aggressive, disruptive rhetoric and third form puerile antics would be repudiated by a majority of well meaning people. So I did not expect him to get this far.

    Moreover there is a certain candidate of colour now elected who would have already gone to meet his mother and father had he used any of Trump’s rhetoric or incited any comparative violence at his campaigns.

    But coming after that certain candidate this behaviour is now acceptable or as they said after the ’08 financial corrections it’s ‘The New Normal’!

    @Chad, free trade is a very painful thing. Simple econ 101 explains it … manufactures and businesses will migrate to the lowest cost producer in a free-trade area and the high cost centers have to differentiate by offering superior valued-added products. Of course its never that easy. So Trump is right that major job lost took place even as the US sold high-end products into other markets.

    Thus in that very basic context the clothes you are wearing and possibly the chair in which you sit is a result of ” trade deals that have impoverished certain groups in America”. We can either be practical or overly simplistic about the ills of trade.

    After the financial down-turn the US company Walmart became the cost savings center for millions of those impoverished certain groups. A man of your knowledge base should be aware that during that period Walmart was importing over $27 Billion from China….(just under 10% of total China imports).

    That has been realistically empowering a lot of those impoverished folks to which Mr Trump appeals so wonderfully.

    The fact is that Donald Trump knows all this well. His Trump brand clothing sold to millions of Americans was made in a low cost country…..

    Clearly Mr Trump will not in fact impose 30% tariffs on those billions of $$ in consumer products exported by overseas US companies into the US as he has threatened. That would take the country into recession and there is nothing ‘great again’ about that.

    Life’s box of chocolates…you never know exactly what you are getting in this contradictory world of business!


  24. JOBS Where?

    The Labor Department reported Friday that the U.S. generated 160,000 new jobs in April. But this figure is completely misleading; in fact the U.S. economy actually LOST 73,000 jobs in April. This is because the Bureau of Labor Statistics for the Labor Department reported in their CESBD release that 223,000 jobs included in their count of 160,000 new jobs for April were an estimate, a guess, a fantasy of the number of new jobs they hope might have been created by new businesses that started in April. This means the economy is taking a turn for the worse, much worse.

    The Labor Department also reported the unemployment rate is at 5.0 percent. This of course is also nonsense as they reported that only 59.7 percent of the population has jobs, and that the Labor force participation rate fell to 62.8 percent. The Labor force participation rate is the percentage of working age population that is part of the labor force. It is a measure of what proportion of a country’s population is employed or actively looking for employment. Discouraged workers tend to stop looking. They are not included in the unemployment rate calculations. Then of course there is the underemployment issue where workers take part-time jobs, or work in jobs below their skill level due to a lack of opportunity, but are counted as working in the employment report.


  25. Green Monkey

    Good points on JFK and possibly Trump. There were other reasons why JFK placed himself in the CrossHairs, he planned to reform the Federal Reserve Bank from Private Ownership and management by the Big Banks to the correct format as a TRUE Fed Agency. Every Pres that has tried that has been shot at including Lincoln and Andrew Jackson who they shot at but missed. Indeed, Andrew Jackson’s re -election slogan was “Vote for Jackson NOT the Bank”!

    When a candidate decides to go with certain Controller benefactors then they must act according to their commands. Think Obama could go in certain directions without “their” approval. If any Pres steps too far out of line from Controller direction then Bullets will fly as for JFK! Surely Trump gets that! It is not about having great concepts and putting those ideas into action, it is far more complicated.


  26. Sarge, U are sharp BUT I did not know U were a Trump insider!

    Yes, all of those workers are going to come forward and tell the Nation that Trump treats them well, while Hilary’s similars will tell the Truth that she is an overly aggressive, stinking bitch who stuck with the Numero Uno Conman for Political and Power reasons and really should be hated by the very matronly “feminists” who bust their butts to assist her.

    Trump knows how to create JOBS and guess who will benefit from millions of JOBS in the Construction of essentially required INFRASTRUCTURE (roads, Airports,ports, utilities etc) that the current Admin FAILED to conduct—–out of work White, Black and Hispanic Americans, people who want work.

  27. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    MB
    Are you saying that Trump will be able to do the things that the nigga president failed to do with his “stimulus” at the beginning of his presidency when he controlled both house and senate? HOPE AND CHANGE INDEED. CHANGE FOR THE WORSE AND HOPELESS NESS!

    Are you saying that Trump will be able to make the deals that the nigga president failed to do with his “stimulus” at the beginning of his presidency when he controlled both house and senate?


  28. Green Monkey
    George Carlin gets it! These Mofos (Multiplie Opportunists for Ourselves) know exactly how to con the populace”U have the freedom to choose Democrip or Repubblood” what U dont know is that we own both” hahaha!


  29. SSS
    The trouble raging at Trump events are organised by who??????? NOT TRUMP!


  30. Forget about Mr. Trump’s comments. Should Mr. Clinton really be allowed to return to such an important place after he disrespected it so much – http://edition.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/time/1998/09/14/affair.state.html?


  31. ac
    U are missing a simple point here and that is if my Nation gives China recognition, then I as a business person may have little choice but to use their cheap labour. Same is true for illegal immigrants allowed to stay in the US, why not employ a good maid for half price? Indeed, employ 1000+ for my hotel in Florida alone. Obama PROMISED to fix the Immigration problem in his first year and accomplished what?????????

    Importantly, Trump has ADMITTED to all of these supposed transgressions while Hilary is in her opinion conducted herself with perfection.

    In Bim what is a business person to do when senior Pols ask for Big$$$$$ to approve a major project? What should a business person do when the Customs Mafia DEMANDS Big $$$$$$ to permit the passage of your containers that have your Xmas goods?

    U have to play by the Rules of those with significant POWER!

    OR should I go Bankrupt and fire the 1,100 workers in my construction company?


  32. This is not just about jobs, this is about people willing to roll the dice because they are fed up with everything that has been going on around them and the feeling that they have had no say in the outcomes. Sanders and trump are just the figure heads of a push by the silent majority to be heard. Why is it Clinton a public employee makes millions while on the govt payroll, there is something wrong with this system They talk about trumps fumbles ,watch her video on kadaffys death laughing we came we saw he died, and screwed that country up even more, that was some great foreign policy.

  33. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    What should a business person do when the Customs Mafia DEMANDS Big $$$$$$ to permit the passage of your containers that have your Xmas goods?

    THIS REMINDS ME OF WHEN MY VOLVO WAS IN THE PORT IN 93 FROM THE UK
    THE FELLAS HAD PERSONNEL LINED UP TO BUY IT IN CASE I COULD NOT PAY THE DUTY


  34. @SSS, I applaud your acuity on Trump. I thought that his aggressive, disruptive rhetoric and third form puerile antics would be repudiated by a majority of well meaning people. So I did not expect him to get this far.

    Let me be very lucid, Trump has behaved stupidly because of his obvious Psyche inadequacies! He could have achieved what he has and better by NOT appearing to dislike females, couched his terms on Mexicans by saying there are mostly great people but there are an over abundance of criminals amongst them, I am UNaware of any attack on African Ams and certainly he was NOT biased against Afros onThe Apprentice shows, even when he had Rodman and Crazyass Omaroso to deal with. He chose Arsenio to win. Trump was wrong with selecting Joan Rivers to win though!

    Trump has the ability to perform well as Pres BUT I dont trust any Pol! He has already scared the shyte outta Putin who correctly tried to give him the kiss of Death by supporting him. Putin knows that Trump is nobody to mess with. Putin woiuld much prefer another 4 yrs to beat up on Obama.


  35. @MB
    Yes, all of those workers are going to come forward and tell the Nation that Trump treats them well,
    ++++++++++++
    Yeah, they will be joined by workers from Trump Airlines; Trump University; Trump Casinos; Trump Steaks etc., yuh know my Grandfather was a mason pity he didnโ€™t pass on some of those skills to me I could use the money to help build that wall, wait I live north of the 49th parallel but he could import some cheap Chinese labour to do the job.


  36. Dribs,wrote free trade is a very painful thing. Simple econ 101 explains it โ€ฆ manufactures and businesses will migrate to the lowest cost producer in a free-trade area and the high cost centers have to differentiate by offering superior valued-added products. Of course its never that easy. So Trump is right that major job lost took place even as the US sold high-end products into other markets.

    Dribs much of Econ Theory is just that theory! Reality has proven in dealing with Japan since the 1970s that they will ensure that they believe in FREE Exports!( Japan stole many industries Cameras/ TVs? big Auto share/. China with 10X the population of Japan is very much of the same belief we Export freely and the US Imports freely. Free? FAIR?
    The US creates Jobs in China as KFC/ McD etc places 1000 locations to employ Chinese. The Chinese will never respect Patents BUT will always steal US Technology and Cyberattack with regularity too!


  37. GP
    U and I both know that the US Pres must answer to certain Controllers, who are mainly Whiteys.

    If Barry had truly intended to FIX the real probs he may well have been JFKed! If Trump becomes Pres and decides to FIX the problems correctly he will join JFK!


  38. Pacha,
    Good effort here.
    It really bothers me that such a high % of African Ams believe in Hilary. Do they really think the she gives one rhateeed about them? She knows that AfrAms will buy the BS that she is going to continue on Barry’s behalf?


  39. Was about to launch a missive but SSS puts it very well when she stated
    “David

    I expected Trump to be still standing. It is was a foregone conclusion. He presented the type of nitpicking that would have appeal to certain peopleโ€™s emotions. Does not matter how much shite he talk or how much violence he stirs, a large portion of the American white population likes what he is saying and doing.”

  40. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @MB, you are generally reasonably balanced n your view and previously when I perused your remarks I come away with a sense of understanding and appreciation of the matter but man you definitely got Hilary up yer craw and are so offended with the players in dis election cycle and the ‘ineffective Obama’ that you offering some piss poor biased commentary.

    I believe I read/listen to some of the same news feeds that you do (Bloomberg, Wash Post, Huffington Post, and WSJ in addition to the Canadian press to name a few highlights) but my reading of those same sources provide a significantly more sanguine report of the jobs market.

    On Bloomberg last week for ex they noted that the unemployment jobs lost data was trending at a level not seen since Pres Nixon. Good lawd MB Bloomberg News said so. Why this angst. Data is data.

    Are you saying that the US Labor Dept started to analyse these data points differently starting in Feb 2008? Help me bro as I completely missed that major news item.

    Is it that YOU completely missed the guidance that the Labor Stats issued on Jobs Day (every first Friday of the month I believe) for the previous period is ALWAYS UPDATED and CORRECTED as actual data flows in with revisions.

    Or, this too is new since 2008…it’s Barry’s Labor Dept that sets out to fudge the data so.

    —– Why do we need to be so abjectly disingenuous to make a point??? ——

    OBVIOUSLY, Obama failed in key area. But Jesus H Christ which president or leader has EVER fulfilled all of his goals. (Except your Lee of course)

    Hate the bro as much as you want but don’t expect the data to lie when it can’t!

    Incidentally, also on Bloomberg one corporate chieftan in a blossoming consultancy network lamented that the jobs data would not have included the types of PhD and MBA temp workers plugged into jobs using his network. He opined that he had likely placed the same 100K+ or more noted in this April’s report.

    So you are pellucid and accurate when you say “Then of course there is the underemployment issue where workers take part-time jobs”. In this case folks who are quite skilled and are very comfortable working as independent contractors for short period all about but at very high wages levels. They too are NOT counted in those Labor Stats.

    Just saying to Mr MB who is clearly too pissed to be reasonable these days!


  41. Hillary, though not an angel, is not as bad as some claim she is and neither is Trump a genius with all of the answers as some here would claim.

    Trump peddles a soft racism; one that is palatable to many Americans; it is not a frenetic in your face type; it is not the kind that jumps out and grabs you by the throat, it smacks of patriotism and America first, but at times it would deprive some American citizens of their rights.

    From his early refusal to rent to blacks to his many utterances during the election campaign, they all smack of racism.

    I have often seen the question of “is it a pig if you put red lipstick on it”; well, if you take off the white sheet, soften it vicious language ; give it a microphone and send it on an election campaign, it is still a racist pig.

    And that is the appeal of Trump. A soft “palatable” (to some) racism.


  42. @ MoneyBrain……Lest you forget!

    “He does not forget the โ€œquadrangleโ€, a set of outdoor benches where white boys sat on one side and black boys on the other, joined by โ€œthe poorest of the poor Whitesโ€.

    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/80973/karlie-grew-red-black-people#sthash.Qw7yZaXP.dpuf


  43. Going to add Hants to my list of required reading… the good list…

  44. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    BTW @Sargeant least I forget again… Some logs back you highlighted some reading material so two things…

    —1) Do you remember or have a copy of your post…if yes. repost it here

    —2) If you haven’t you should add to your list: The Green and the Black: The Complete Story of the Shale Revolution, the Fight over Fracking, and the Future of Energy.

    Offers an excellent appreciation of what has become a ‘new’ trillion $$ oil industry in US (and Canada) from fracking and shale exploration. Clears up a lot of ignorant bluster but also gives some ammo to conservationist to keep up the fight.

    @ MoneyBrain May 8, 2016 at 10:38 AM Surely you are not going to offer-up the mundane dribs about “Japan stole many industries … China with 10X the population of Japan is very much of the same belief…”

    Good Lord MB, who are the frigging companies that built the factories or enforced the most deplorable work conditions in these places. One guess!

    When Japan sold their cheap TV etc did you or any of you family (purely rhetorical not calling you out) go into the store and ahem-ed your way to that Zenith old box rather a sweet, newer and cheaper Sharp or Sony?

    Are we going to stop this inane palaver or does Trump need to really smack us upside the head again: that rhetoric is old and basically false.

    Japan did nothing more than us greedy consumers and the conniving US (and Bajan) businessmen wanted.

  45. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    MoneyB. …I hope your fantasies about Trump turns into reality, you are certainly doing a SELL job…lol


  46. Dribs
    The Bureau of Labor Stats should drop the L from BLS! Bloomberg wants everyone to believe in the Recovery because the Elites are soon going to DUMP their Stocks on the STUPID!

    Clinton started to really MANIPULATE the data and all the Pols since have gone along, ALL bastards. Checkout Shadow Stats may have Govt in the title by John Williams. DONT ever trust anything to do with Pols or Cons (same ting bro).

    I dont hate Barry. Presidents are the puppets of the Elite, regardless of pigmentation! I only expose Barry to ensure that everyone appreciates that the system is rigged and the Controllers are very clever in utilising a darker gent to produce the normal effects. The Psyche effect worked as 95 % of AfrAms were delighted to have a bro as Pres, as they should be! However, the results are probably a lot less positive for many AfrAms that see the Elites Con.

    The Unemployment Rate is a JOKE! Millions had to Retire early, far too often in poverty. Those millions out of work are ASSUMED employed after 2 yrs. It is MANIPULATION!

    Anyhow the real problem of Collapse coming soon and all will be hurt.

  47. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Hants…I read that too it just goes to show, the racism started in the UK , nurtured, blossomed and exported to Barbados, was still practiced by the descendants of those who were Barbadosed, on each other…lol…another form of ethicnic intolerance that after political independence was obtained in 66, should have been banned, racism outlawed and not allowed to be practiced on the majority black population at anytime, by the minorities as is obvious by whst their children did in the schools….but, ya have weak and dishonest black leaders who allow such, to this day.

    Wwtson seems to have the right ideas given his humble and poor upbribging, he just strayed a little on the Bussa issue, mi guess ya never too old to learn or be corrected.

  48. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    *Watson


  49. @DPD

    Sometimes I save some of what I post and I canโ€™t find it so I canโ€™t claim credit, perhaps it was someone else.


  50. Gazer the klan were democrats for the most part there is lot of lipstick to go around.. But like JFk family one generation cleans up the deeds of the past.

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