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As a vivid figure of speech meaning something so fouled up as to be utterly useless, “dog’s breakfast” can cover anything from a play plagued by collapsing scenery to a space mission ruined by a mathematical error –Urban Dictionary

I am not among those theorists who imagine that the institution of government is inherently not to be trusted; that it is singularly devoted to the interests of its campaign financiers only; guided in its policies by some unknown shadows; and that its every initiative is to be viewed with suspicion.

Nor, equally, am I to be numbered among those who believe that governments have been placed there by divine right and that whatever they might conceive is therefore well done, pour le mieux, and should not, therefore, abide our question.

After all, any administration comprises but mere mortals with all their failings, inherent susceptibility to error and a natural liability to moments of insufficient or inadequate cerebration. It is for that reason that the apparent hostility between some members of the current governing administration and some members of the public with regard to the implementation of the collection of biometric data in the form of fingerprints of locals at the island’s ports of entry is to be regretted.

It is, of course, not my brief to advise this administration as to what should be its best approach to executing designed policy. However, I am of the considered view that in much the same way that shoddy implementation of the necessary decision to have Barbadian students at the Cave Hill Campus of UWI contribute to the cost of their tuition resulted in a substantial decline in student numbers and a loss of civic goodwill; the failures to state publicly and seasonably the rationale for the current disputed measure and to seek competent legal advice on the constitutional validity of its provisions have similarly served to ensure a degree of popular antipathy towards the government and to create a concomitant level of distrust among the citizenry. Unnecessarily so, I might add.

The truth is that there has been, at least since the start of the current decade, a global realization that the traditional methods of identification of persons –by photographs and numbers- had become obsolete; incapable of preventing identity theft; susceptible to other fraudulent abuses, and generally inadequate for their intended purpose. In an age of terrorist threat moreover, the then existing methods of identifying individuals had clearly become unsustainable.

In consequence, many jurisdictions sought to modernize their national ID databases from the simple photograph or number to include biometric identifiers, such as fingerprints, iris recognition, voice, gait and even DNA, which would authenticate individual identity and assist in border security.

And even though I have not yet heard it stated, it would appear as if Barbados is set to follow this global trend, at least in respect of the individual passport -if I am to judge from the provisions of the Immigration (Biometrics) Regulations 2015 where, according to regulation 6, any application for a passport, or for certain other stipulated registrations and permissions connected with residence in Barbados, must be accompanied by biometric data, as defined in that law, to be supplied to an immigration officer. Clearly then, the official intention seems to be to create a database of such information so as to ensure the authenticity of the relevant document.

Further, since there might have been some constitutional unpleasantry, as well as a logistical nightmare, in nullifying all the existing documents and having everyone apply for a new passport, as I have heard it suggested, it seems that officialdom took the ostensibly simplest way out, so far as its citizens are concerned, of attempting to create the database not only through new applications for the travel document itself, but also through the fingerprinting of those who use already issued ones at local ports. It is naturally to be expected therefore that there may be a similar future enterprise in respect of the national identification card.

Alarmingly and alas, none of this, to my best knowledge, was conveyed to the ordinary citizen, in circumstances where the element of biometric data required is primarily the one used by the police in criminal investigations and that may provide near conclusive evidence of culpability in a trial; in a country where there is an innate mistrust of any innovation; where, abnormally, citizens are to be required to provide their fingerprints in their own country on all travel occasions; and where, arguably, the governing administration is not, currently, at the height of popularity. In my view, the absence of prior communication in these contexts was a toxic potion for political disaster.

The direness of the situation has not been assisted either by a variety of other snafus. For one, my learned friend, Mr David Commissiong, claims to have discovered some procedural impropriety in the creation of the legislation itself and, accordingly, has launched a court action to nullify the Regulations entirely; for another, there is some further dispute as to whether it is constitutionally legitimate to prohibit nationals from re-entering Barbados, as appears to be the provision in Reg. 3 (5) –a situation that might have been avoided by simply stipulating for a summary offence and penalty for those citizens who refuse to submit to fingerprinting on their return to the country-; and the belligerent “robber-talk” and “grand-charge” by some highly-placed individuals who are sympathetic to the partisan political interests of the governing administration.

Of course, this will merely cause the issue to degenerate further into a “political dogfight” of abusion among the various supporters of the respective parties, rather than becoming the rational, informed conversation that we should be having on serious issues of contemporary national and individual security.

In a not strictly related decision of the European Court of Justice in October 2013, in a case brought by a German resident Michael Schwarz, who had applied for a passport, but refused to have his fingerprints taken, the Court ruled that although the taking and storing of fingerprints for passports under the German statute infringed the privacy and personal data rights of individuals guaranteed in the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights, it was, nevertheless, in line with European law, since it ensured protection against the fraudulent use of passports and outweighed personal privacy concerns about mandatory fingerprinting. The issue here does not touch or concern these issues, principally because neither right traversed is protected, adequately or at all, under local law and that the right implicated locally is that of freedom of movement.

It may not be too late for the governing administration to correct these deficiencies. It will require, however, a sea change in its mode of governance thus far…so we shall see. As it currently stands, a “dog’s breakfast” has unfortunately been made so far of a perfectly reasonable, though clearly opposable, objective.

Enjoy a peaceful Easter holiday.


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80 responses to “The Jeff Cumberbatch Column – “A Dog’s Breakfast””

  1. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Fantasic article Jeff.


  2. “I am not among those theorists who imagine that the institution of government is inherently not to be trusted; that it is singularly devoted to the interests of its campaign financiers only; guided in its policies by some unknown shadows; and that its every initiative is to be viewed with suspicion.”

    Yeah right; we believe you Jeff!


  3. Jeff thanks for the supposed reasoning behind the finger printing of returning nationals but I don’t blame anyone for objecting to being fingerprinted on their return home. That is indeed a bone headed approach (which reminds me of the old Bajan saying “Head aint Brains) and anyone who understands human behavior would immediate know “Houston we have a problem” when it was discussed around the Cabinet table (that’s assuming there was a discussion). I don’t much about anything but I believe that the requirement for biometric data had a time requirement as per International Agreement but Gov’t as usual dragged its feet and now faced with an approaching deadline a decision was made to kill two birds with one stone which the public views as a scattergun approach and understandably the whole flock is now riled up. (Full disclosure I recently travelled to the USA and was subjected to finger printing and eye scan etc. prior to entry but not on my return)

    Transparency! Transparency! Transparency! In the first go around David Thompson campaigned on a platform of Transparency, subsequent to his passing and perhaps prior opaque became the new prism through which Gov’t. communicates. It hasn’t helped that when Gov’t communicates it seems to be lecturing at best or patronizing when its spokesmen are challenged.


  4. The last 10 minutes of the prime minister’s Estimates presentation explains the problem as he sees it.

    http://www.barbadosparliament.com/video/view/365

  5. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    The US had that eye scan going in penal institutions since 2004 or before, so it goes to reason that communique was sent out to governments prior to that and could have been as far back as just after 9/11….both governments sat on their asses and did nothing but now want to hurriedly ram anything down the throats of the people who have to elect them…..without an explanation.

    And they fully expect people to accept and comply….without demanding an explanation.

    Here is where the people have to stop being sheep and stand up to let these politicians know that they are employees and are mandated to give the people who are their bosses, a satisfactory explanation….re fingerprinting citizens in and out of the island.

  6. Caswell Franklyn Avatar
    Caswell Franklyn

    This current administration seems to be singularly devoted to the interest of its campaign financiers, if not the institution of government.

    Taking fingerprints at the ports of entry was mandated by the US Government, and like little compliant souls, our Government rushed at all deliberate speed to carry out its orders without reference to the people that it governs. Even if fingerprinting is necessary, Government should not be so arrogant. They apparently believe that they can treat the people of this country in any fashion and that we must accept whatever they do. (The Prime Minister’s statement suggested such).

    If the reason is national security why exempt some adults who carry diplomatic passports? Can’t those passports be forged?

    The change in the ID cards have already been decided upon but not for any such noble consideration as national security. It would appear that a lone female opposes having her date of birth on the ID card and came up with a plan to deceive the idiots in government that the national registration number ought to be changed. Her reason is that the number is not unique and that eventually it will be reused. What the Government wasn’t told is that the number will come around again in 2,500 years.

    The Electoral Office has already gone ahead and purchased new cameras but they have proven to be duds. Somehow they can’t seem to get the skin colour of caucasians correct.

    Government has already laid the bill in the House that will effect that change which will see all ID cards having to be reissued. The project is on hold until after the next General Elections.

    I also understand that the project would be outsourced to some suitably qualified Dem.


  7. @Caswell

    Why cant the government expand the National ID project to include fingerprints and use that database to validate Bajans entering Barbados among other requirements.


  8. @Sargeant wrote, “I recently travelled to the USA and was subjected to finger printing and eye scan etc. prior to entry.”

    Did you travel from Canada ? Were you using a Canadian passport ?

  9. Caswell Franklyn Avatar
    Caswell Franklyn

    David

    That did not occur to them. All they were seeing when the silly proposal came to them was the potential for one of their supporters to make some and kickback a piece.

    Sent from my iPad

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  10. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Caswell….just out of curiosity, what color does the ‘white’ skin come out…lol

    I dont know if you will be shocked to know, but government can issue a diplomatic passport to anyone. Errol Barrow had issued one to his barber and traveling companion Bop Clarke, I think he is still alive……my point being, no one, including diplomats should be exempt from fingerprinting.

    The new document needed for visa exempt countries prior to traveling to Canada, I dont think diplomats are exempt. I dont know why they exempted US citizens, when they too are risky….but…

  11. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    Jeff your comments re the compilation of a database registry to validate the Bdos travel document is clear. It is in concert with the remarks made here on the technical side of the matter from @Pieces and certainly reinforces the position that in this era of heightened security a biometric verification is mandatory.

    But on the legal side I note your back handed condemnation with the GoB’s inability “to seek competent legal advice on the constitutional validity of its provisions’. Surely its amazing that the same GoB which shows nous to tap your competent legal talent can be so delinquent in such a matter.

    You also mentioned that its a matter of ‘freedom’ in the Bdos context as there are no proscriptions for “the taking and storing of fingerprints for passports”.

    But according to our freedoms it seems the gov’t is effectively evoking similar mandates as in the German case to overcome the Constitutional dictates so this too would be overridden at the law courts if I understand your remarks correctly!

    @Sargeant… the gov’r determination to f’print on entry and exit for every trip can be considered very practical. I am unaware of a way to validate that the owner of the passport and person presenting it are indeed one and the same unless a biometric or some high tech option like facial recog is taken.

    The question of course then becomes ‘is detailed verification necessary for Bajan citizens on reentry’. The security experts in GoB are the only ones who can really answer and convince us of that.

    The US and other larger developed countries utilize multiple identification measures like facial recognition and more so they can easily decide not to take a f’print at each reentry. They are being no less intrusive than Bdos is in real terms…just much less visible so.


  12. @Caswell

    A lighting problem? Seems unlikely it is the equipment.

    The Electoral Office has already gone ahead and purchased new cameras but they have proven to be duds. Somehow they can’t seem to get the skin colour of caucasians correct.


  13. Perhaps the following information may be of some interest to BU.

    https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/general/border-biometrics.html


  14. My Canadian passport says “place of birth, Bridgetown, Barbados.

    Will I be fingerprinted if I travel to Barbados ?

    I have no problem being fingerprinted, face scanned and even giving my dna. However I understand why others would object to an intrusion on their privacy.

  15. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @David of course even if “government expand the National ID project to include fingerprints and use that database to validate Bajans entering Barbados among other requirements” Bajans would still need to get their fprint captured at port, of course.

    However, you are too savvy not to know that the Electoral and Immigration Depts. are not linked re Estimate Budgets and thus neither of their PSs would want to combine those processes and give up the control, money or power.

    This is an issue that has been the same for years where in practical circumstances like this authorities have refused to move forward as a cohesive unit.

    The cost and platform to produce the new driver’s license card for example when it was introduced to replace our old DL book could have been scaled just a bit more with lower variable incremental cost for more cameras/printers than anything that would be done now to implement a completely new Nat ID card. The concept and basic back-end production process for any modern secure doc like a Nat ID or DL is basically the same.

    Obviously the security features of the doc itself changes but planning for that is easily handled.

    That said in this very security conscious era the other strong argument would be that you want to maintain as much separation between your processes as is humanely possible…more opportunity to maintain security and avoid being compromised.


  16. @Dee Word

    Yes fingerprinting would become a way of validating certain transactions optional or not. Some Barbadians are making noise about invasion of privacy but individuals are baing tracked or can be tracked by the use of cellular phones, use of credit and debit cards etc.

  17. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    Let me clarify my statements:

    —- 1 “The concept and basic back-end production process for any modern secure doc like a Nat ID or DL is basically the same.”

    I should add for a small jurisdiction like Barbados. Although the broad statement is true it would be impractical to expect that the US for example would not have much more extensive back-end processing/data collection than for example the state of Florida for their DL document.

    And — 2 “.. the Electoral and Immigration Depts. are not linked re Estimate Budgets”.

    I was going from memory and then realized that I am indeed not sure if those departments are indeed under different Ministry heads as the DL and Electoral are for example.

    Many here can validate that in a sec. The man point remains however as I have seen it myself too many times doing business with GoB.


  18. Immigration and Electoral departments fall under the Prime Minister’s head o they not?


  19. you fellas can rant and rave about this

    but back behind this is preparation for executing the mark of the beast-666- in the imminent “tribulation period”
    very interesting to eschatologists

  20. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    Actually David I think they both do…as I suggested above I caught myself after hitting ‘post’. In previous years the PM usually handled Electoral and aspects of Nat Security like Immigration…but things gets changed. Surely Caswell has it at his fingertips.


  21. @Hants
    I have no problem being fingerprinted, face scanned and even giving my dna
    +++++
    That is prescient, DNA may be in the not so distant future.

  22. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    Anyhow your original point re one system for both remains strong..very strong. The technical, management and production issues are straight forward.


  23. Some time ago Walter posted a comment about our inability to intelligently trap data in the many disparate government databases. We need sensible thinking by our leaders to inform national strategy. Our inability to leverage the expanse of data by designing a relevant architecture belies our investment in education.


  24. “WITHOUT LET OR HINDRANCE” has been dead for some time.

    The dominance of World Affairs by the GLOBAL MAFIA (which controls Religion, Finance Law, Politics, Education, the Military and Entertainment) has passed the Point of No “Reasonable” return. Legal pontifications and ramblings from academia will not solve the gravity of this problem, simply because such pontifications and ramblings will be and has been “out-thinked” and “out-argued” and brought to heel by “smarter” duplicitous minds.

    This global mafia does not plan like your average citizen nor government. This mafia plans 50-100 years ahead of us and these plans are brought into action via the Hegelian Dialetic.

    B’dos is enacting Biometrics only proves that there’s nothing new under the sun on that island. B’dos has always been a peon state and will continue to be a vassal as long as the “dominant” (buffer) class continues to see itself as an illusionary card-carrying member of the powers that ought not to be class.

    Terrorism was not brought to you by your average joe-blow. Terrorism is a well-orchestrated tool/weapon which has been nurtured until the appropriate time, and implemented by this Mafia. This is the same mafia which brought you the Cold War and all the other isms of fear and control.

    Since we the people are not taught how to live in harmony with universal law we are forced (with the exception of a few) to EXIST under the jackboots of man-made law which is always subject to the whims and deceit of this global mafia and forced upon the people via the UN or the threat of economic subjugation.

    Short of the Intervention of some Cosmic Force the only force powerful enough that can stop this monstrosity is the Worldwide collective Anarchy of all Nations.

    We the People live under the illusion of Freedom.

    @ GP…..666 is the number of man i.e the chemical make up of man.


  25. @Hants

    Yes, this was at Pearson with a Canadian Passport.

  26. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    I suggested one day at the registration of births section of the Supreme Court that they link their systems to the registration department that issues ID cards to confirm the identification of a student or anyone in the same situation, who was then in university in Canada and needed an original birth certificate from her birthplace in Barbados, she was unable to produce her ID card, as they asked, because it was in her possession…in Canada.

    After getting some strange looks and a resounding “we cahn do dat”….par for the course and a lot of delays and unnecessary rigmarole…the student’s mother was able to get the birth cert.

    They need to link those systems, the island is small and it would be a cakewalk…not to mention eliminating many of the present nightmares associated with dealing with those government offices for the most simple matters.


  27. In the above I should have made it clear that when we travel from Canada to the US through certain Airports we clear US Customs and Immigration at point of embarkation so I was clearing US Customs and Immigration at that point. When we arrive at our destination we just collect our bags and go.

  28. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @Sargeant at 11:13 AM, and of course that is exactly the point of a Bdos fprint system as it relates to the discourse here of being strongly US mandated/supported or whatever.

    I know that process was exactly the case when leaving Lynden Pindling, The Bahamas for US and I presume it continues still or an automated variation.

    The only difference with the Bdos situation would be that there would be no US personnel or kioks on island completing the process …it would just be data being processed across the seas before one arrives…ensuring therefore that a comprehensive check can be completed for any suspicious characters.

    …. as Mr Weekes’ travel program offered and certainly as currently done in other ways now!

    @Hopi…excellent anarchist statement above. After the ‘Worldwide collective Anarchy of all Nations’ takes over what would be the strategy and who then would plan that strategy?

    Do you guys have a handle on the terror attacks or is there a plan for just one endless campaign of death and destruction akin to that film Time Killers or whatever it was called: every day you leave home you are forced to literally fight for your life to gain more time to live.

    How would your Anarchy of all Nations manage life? Is there a manifesto available…sounds like something I may be keen on!


  29. @DePD….. To think about a strategy after global anarchy is putting the ‘horse after the cart.’ There are already Anarchists with plans in motion and some are not even anarchists just Governments that are of the people, by the people and for the people. Does Ordo Ab Chao ring a bell? Just give the Global Mafia a taste of its own medicine.

    Zbigniew Brzezinski said that today its easier to kill a million people than it is to control them…meaning that they are losing control because populace is becoming aware of their sinister plans.

    Global Anarchists do not have a handle on the terror attacks because its not the Anarchists carrying out such attacks. What the Globalist Anarchists have a handle on is the origin of the anarchy. These attacks are carried by the Alphabet Agencies of the world, the Mossad, Black water and other mercenaries who work for Empire.

    Nations will manage quite fine because they are many who are awake and that manifesto you may be keen on is your CONSCIENCE…..let that be your guide.

  30. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    On a lighter note, New Yorkers will have fun with this anarchist, until someone gets real serious.

    http://ow.ly/ZYCqt


  31. If people are getting upset at Gov’ts accessing their biometric info prepare for the next step- Private Corporations principally Financial Institutions requesting more data to protect them (and you :-)) from fraud. In an era of increasing losses amounting to millions annually from Identity theft, Debit and Credit Card fraud Banks are looking for options to enable them to be certain that the individual presenting a Debit Card at a cash dispenser or presenting a Credit Card as payment for goods and services is the actual owner of the Card.

    Some European Banks have already embarked on the use of “finger scans” and Barclays Bank plan to introduce same in the near future. Mobile Banking is also on the rise and consumers want access to information quickly so what is easier than placing a fingerprint on a screen or hold up your mobile device so it can take an eye scan. Generally, when it comes to technology advances European Banks are ahead of those in North America in implementing change as the North American Banks generally develop a “wait and see” attitude before taking the leap.

    When your local Branch of the Bank with HQ in TO informs you that it requires more than a PIN number for you to access your funds, I suspect that most will acquiesce as very few will decide to put their money under the bed.


  32. The issue here is very simple.

    Immigration and the ID Department while under the same ministry have different heads of department and also have a different budget allocation which while is a duplication of effort, and which has not been “harmonized” may or may not lend itself to what others her call “the gravy train” where friends and friends of friends benefit from the ever repeating cycle of largesse.

    The InterAmerican administered a Japan Fund which if i rightly really permits for the allocation of a skilled ICT consultant who, given that Japan is on the cutting edge of hardware/software and informatics in general, would provide the GoB of barbados the superlative skills to synchronize all of our software and hardware purchases for the next 25 years.

    The United Nations resident at UN House which would not have opened nor I am made to understand, hosted the then Secretary General Kofi Annan were it not for specific representations that I made, has a specific program that they administer for UNVies United nations Volunteers where such expertise can be had for nothing “relatively speaking”

    But then again tapping into those two sources would do a couple things (i) make someone in the Ministry of Economic Affairs and another person in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and counterparts sitting on their donkeys in Diplomatic Offices have to work (ii) possibly solve this problem of non compatible expensive solutions yet in retrospect in addition to it being a suggestions coming from David Weekes, that would possibly stop “the gravy train run” so let the Purina Dog Chow chant continue

  33. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @David Weekes at 3:52 AM, but wait, didn’t it take a few planes and 3,000+ lives before the big US of A started to break down their Purina Chow feed stations! … Over there in Belgium right now they are in serious ‘let’s fix this now’ mode…as if they did not know where and how the Purina was flowing unabated.

    We are in the same pickle…or should that be chow…so as much as you may see this as a personal affront it is everything but that for all practical purposes.

    I do pray to God that we do not get a wake-up call like any of the above….

    …. but if our cousins in T&T who had their 7-90 at a time when we associated 9-11 sorta numbers with radio stations and they STILL basically playing lots of games (from what I can see at tis distance) with their alleged returning Syrian/ISIS combatants why do you expect the Purina to stop here in our state of ignorant bliss with our middle-class comfort and ‘wealth’!

    @Hopi, thanks for the response. Again well stated. Instructive that you would use a quote from Zbigniew Brzezinski — considered by several as one of the great thinkers/doers of the US Intelligence and Security apparatus in his heyday and surely not an acolyte of anarchy– to make your point.

    Most definitely, you are right that “to think about a strategy after global anarchy is putting the ‘horse after the cart’ “. But isn’t that the entire ethos and construct of anarchy !

    And why would’t anarchists “not have a handle on the terror attacks”. This expedites your “Ordo Ab Chao”.

    They say, ‘don’t play with fire…’ and intended to add, ‘… or thoughts of anarchy. You will get burnt’.

    My conscience is clear. Continue to be smart.


  34. Stomach was growling it is empty, like fridge. so I got up to eat some Sodabix.

    (Just stating fact, not seeking pity, just stating fact, for my succour and food comes from GOD he will provide, always does)

    So I am over the sink eating the Sodabix and drinking water, like Phillip Nicholls speaks to have experienced in his “More Binding than Marriage”

    Lots here do not believe in GOD but I do absolutely and totally. But enough of that tangent.

    So I am looking at the biscuits, and drinking water because sodabix will choke you when you have to eat a pack to quash your hunger,

    But back to the story,

    That is how 70% of my patents come, in looking at something, “stopping and staring”

    Stopped and stared at the tree during torential rains and saw that under the tree was relatively dry while all around it was drenched “the Tsunami Damper” was born.

    Stopped and stared at the blocks in a rock garden wall that was stained red due to leakage of mud and looked odd against the other rocks and the “shallow draft” Land slippage blanket was born, stopped while cutting onions at the sink while ostensibly doing breakfast and the Pandora Case and Brace was born.

    The others come in waking dreams.

    DO NOT ASK ME ANYTHING,

    THE LOGICAL IN ME FIGHTS WHAT I “SEE” because it does not follow any logic, It comes from no where that I know, ergo I must.believe in GOD

    So I am looking at the Sodabix and my mind rushes to the Bergen-Belsen Concentration camp and Bovril.

    I know that lots of you do not know what Bovril is, it brief it is the concentrate that saved the interns at that camp when they could eat any food google them yourselves.

    So I am looking at the sodabix wrapper and reading its contents, specifically nutritional content and preservatives, and in that moment of extrapolation, fueled by hunger, I wondered if the General Manager of Wibisco Adrian Padmore, or any of its illustrious GMs since 1850, had, given that it was established some twenty years before Bovril came on the scene, thought of going to Caribbean Export (another waste of time entity) and seeking a DAGS grant to research how they could constitute a derivative of the product that would be best suited for places of extreme poverty and famine, or where the overflow of refugees are to create a products that meets the real needs of the world, instead of pretty wrappers,

    They could even approach Grace Products for a collaboration if they found that Caribbean Export was full of talk and liable to appropriate your product as some seem to suggest in that blog here.

    But again my good friend St George;s Dragon would probably say that there is nothing innovative about this idea and that it should be placed in File 13 with all the other David Weekes suggestion.

    “Vision” is not something that can be stolen, or highjacked, and much like putting lipstick on a pig, will not make it into a lady, so too we need to understand that voting for incompetents and nitwits will not transform these men and women into brainiacs overnight.

    Anyway I am hungry again and the fridge has no more biscuits..


  35. @ De Pedantic Dribbler.

    You could imagine what patenting a concentrated Food Supplement “Sodabix Barbadians” could mean to Forex and more importantly, to Famine?

    But Weekes is who suggest dat, so, “kill et before it grow”

    As to your other point about the Brussels conundrum.

    Google what that Lady who retired from the Supreme Court recently suggested.

    The answer to most of these issues is to stop enforcing parallel cultures and isolating your immigrants while doing lip service to this sound-bite “Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me: I lift my lamp beside the golden door.”

    Because as is evident in Paris, Brussels etc and the many places WHERE IT WILL HAPPEN THIS YEAR, such lip service is not working.

    None of you is safe from we who are hungry.

    Now don;t get me wrong per the first person plural. with regard to any jihadists leanings,

    Let me orient you to this in a practical way,

    Do not eat any food for about 3 days, ONLY drink water, no sugar, and sometimes when you crave the water go without it.

    After a while you start to get cranky, and irrespective of how long you want to sleep to keep down the calorific expenditure, when you wake up, you are going to have a burning hunger.

    Imagine being subjected to that for weeks at a time, imagine if you can having some mouths to feed and watching them waste away in front of you, imagine how much of a man/woman and mother/father that makes you DPD.

    Tell me then why this waste of national resources does not make you rankle when both parties, once appointed, continue to do the same thing under their respective Pathways to Progress”

  36. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    The polticians in Barbados are less valuable to their people than human bodily waste…they make it a point to be thus, once elected..


  37. “Sargeant March 27, 2016 at 10:33 AM #

    @Hants
    I have no problem being fingerprinted, face scanned and even giving my dna
    +++++
    That is prescient, DNA may be in the not so distant future.”

    I believe that freedom is the epitome of life- I cannot understand why we are so quick to subject our freedoms to the whims and fancies of people who by their thoughts and actions seem to lack basic commonsense and have proven to be untrustworthy in the management of our affairs already assigned to them.

    and why those who question the assault on such freedoms are seen as troublemakers-

    After digesting the below the question is what next-

    “The truth is that there has been, at least since the start of the current decade, a global realization that the traditional methods of identification of persons –by photographs and numbers- had become obsolete; incapable of preventing identity theft; susceptible to other fraudulent abuses, and generally inadequate for their intended purpose. In an age of terrorist threat moreover, the then existing methods of identifying individuals had clearly become unsustainable.

    In consequence, many jurisdictions sought to modernize their national ID databases from the simple photograph or number to include biometric identifiers, such as fingerprints, iris recognition, voice, gait and even DNA, which would authenticate individual identity and assist in border security.

    And even though I have not yet heard it stated, it would appear as if Barbados is set to follow this global trend, at least in respect of the individual passport -if I am to judge from the provisions of the Immigration (Biometrics) Regulations 2015 where, according to regulation 6, any application for a passport, or for certain other stipulated registrations and permissions connected with residence in Barbados, must be accompanied by biometric data, as defined in that law, to be supplied to an immigration officer. Clearly then, the official intention seems to be to create a database of such information so as to ensure the authenticity of the relevant document.”

    WHERE WILL IT END?


  38. No wonder you are in such a mess David Weekes….
    There is nothing worse than being blessed with vision ….while living among brass bowls.

    Surely you MUST have expected that when a typical Bajan ‘leader’ / ‘manager’ is confronted by someone like you ..that they will feel threatened, belittled, challenged and frightened….
    Surely you know that they will try EVERYTHING to eliminate such threats…

    Your easiest option was to do a ‘Georgie Porgie’. Cuss their donkeys and leave from around the brass bowl jackasses …and watch they implode from afar…

    Or you could have done a Walter ….and gone on to excel in the big city and look back and laugh at the jackasses eating one another ….while those who rejected you suffer the CLICO infamy..

    …or maybe like Hants – say ‘Frig that’, and move to a sane country (even if not a sane clime) …and fish.

    …or like Money Brain and Lawson….. and play on the big field. Make millions and laugh at the poor-ass begging brass bowls on BU

    But No….. you minding Bushie….
    You ‘stand’ bout here trying to help rank jackasses to think….
    You continuing to think that somehow, brass bowls can shine….

    Shine shiite!!
    Brass is brass. Skippa, even if you polish with all your might … in a week or two it will be tarnished all over again…

    Bushie went through your stage too…. but after the fights, the pissy courts, the procession of pig-headed jackasses encountered ….. Bushie invested in a whacker and decided to go into bush whacking and vermin control….

    Um sweet as shiite boss…. sweet as shiite!!!
    …and given that mind you have been blessed with….you are only eating sodabix because you like them…. or perhaps you just hate caviar….


  39. @Bush Tea

    You missed one option, pay the bobble like the others.


  40. @ David
    LOL
    That is not an option for persons of David’s ilk (as you yourself would know)…. People with THAT level of wisdom are NEVER for sale….


  41. Unfortunately we do not live in a perfect world . A world where good and evil would be constantly at war. There are very few options left where one can be fully protected and that every living individual would agree upon that the rights are not being infrigne
    Those who seem to squabble lost sight of the fact that there freedoms are being violated every day by those who practice evil with all intentions to hurt innocent lives
    Btw why after a year has it taken the opposition Blp to oppose this Regulation. Where they not aware? Or is just another way of grabbing onto political propaganda as a saving grace

  42. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @ Sargeant March 27, 2016 at 8:08 PM …I see that you like to fool de BU faithful wid ya posts, fah real….cause fah a fella living up north on the current edge of info you certainly presenting very dated data …

    I was throwing out some old seminar stuff recently and came across presentations from a banking industry conference WAY BACK in ’07 – ’08 which carefully detailed technology advances re the mobile banking, iris/fprint scan, chip based tech etc. And even then that was not new.

    There was a term coined back then which is quite bang on apropos today: ‘one-to-one marketing’.

    And when you talk about DNA as a future construct for ID purposes I can only smile. Is that not being used now extensively as the third level of ID inquiry..the forensic stage!

    And how far removed really is a f’print or iris scan from the proverbial DNA…

    …We would only abandon those other items when a DNA test can be completed in a few minutes and then too if cloning becomes prevalent then DNA would be useless. LOLLLL.

    Just saying that we are at the shove stage of the ID push where all available ‘known’ tech is being used to validate who we say we are… issues of cost , convenience and practicality are still most relevant re the use of one tech compared to another.


  43. @DPD
    The data may be dated to some but there hasn’t been wide spread application of much of this technology. Until very recently my Bank still wanted to know when I was going out of the country and where I was visiting so they wouldn’t flag any entries if one popped up from e.g. Las Vegas it wouldn’t attract attention yet this would be the same Bank through which I would’ve bought my ticket and paid for any reservations and Travel Insurance. Yuh mean to tell me that the Visa arm of the Bank couldn’t make a determination based on recent activity that it was likely I was in Point A or Point B?

    My point is that Banking is still a very conservative business and it still takes time for implementation of technology in North America vis a vis Europe. Virtual banking is a reality in Canada but has been slow to catch on in the USA because people still want the Bricks and mortar institutions. Much of the futuristic technology will take hold when Banks finalize their strategy on how they could make maximum income at lowest operating costs (we don’t visit branches any longer, we don’t get paper statements, but service charges continue to increase)

    Don’t you love Capitalism?

    BTW wouldn’t a finger print scam have foiled the Eastern European folks who tried to separate some Bajans from their money via ABMs recently?


  44. We are all AWARE of threats to Barbados’ national security as well as those unscrupulous individuals, (e.g. the Bulgarians), who may from time to time take advantage of banks’ weak security of their financial systems.

    However, as far as I’m aware, Barbadians, whether it is the Opposition, David Commissiong, “Douche Can” or the man on the “Cream of Wheat” box, seem not to have a PROBLEM with the biometric security system.

    They have a problem with it being used to fingerprint BARBADIANS on their DEPARTURE from and ARRIVAL to Barbados, legal implications of the system on their constitutional rights and the lack of information on this issue coming from the government.

    Rather than emphasizing with Barbadians and addressing their concerns, as well as adhering to the promises articulated on page 47 of the DLP’s 2008 election manifesto re:

    “The DLP administration’s attitude to accountability will be BASED on the UNDERSTANDING that as SERVANTS and REPRESENTATIVES of the people there can be no SECRETS or MATTERS to be HIDDEN from the POPULATION. Consequently, a DLP administration will be ACCOUNTABLE for its ACTION and POLICIES and TAKE the PUBLIC into its CONFIDENCE.”

    Verla DePeiza and BU’s resident yard-fowl have resorted to using scare tactics and worse case scenarios (ISIS attacks on Belgium) to correlate with Barbadians’ reluctance to being fingerprinted, while promoting “Freudelism,” (i.e. this administration’s “like it or lump it…….. we gine still do it” approach they use to implement policy).


  45. @ Artax
    Do you understand the term ‘black hats’?
    Verla and Maxine.
    It is the nature of the beast.

  46. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @Sargeant, let’s agree to disagree re “Virtual banking is a reality in Canada but has been slow to catch on in the USA because people still want the Bricks and mortar institutions.” I do not think the evidence really supports that but let’s leave it there.

    What would be a really extensive rollicking other entire discussion is your comment :

    ” Until very recently my Bank still wanted to know when I was going out of the country and … Yuh mean to tell me that the Visa arm of the Bank couldn’t make a determination … that it was likely I was in Point A or Point B?”

    That statement makes implicit for review several aspects of this vexing question of privacy rights….

    …. If you go Las Vegas and visit one of the very legal bordellos there does your bank have a right to intrude on you by perhaps targeting a marketing campaign to you – from a purchase – by offering the latest Victoria Secrets catalogue or whatever showing lovely accessories for male-female relaxation!

    Do they have a right if you buy a gun legally in US to report you to the Canadian authorities?

    Why should the Visa Arm as you noted investigate your ticket purchase to Las Vegas and link it to a subsequent purchase there unless they are data mining your purchases !….

    So is that good and sensible business practices or is that an invasion of privacy???

    My point senor is that all that you say is well stated but depending on where one stands it could be grounds for the worst invasion of privacy imagined…

    Oh and re that US Bank ting…it was always all about MONEY…primarily they did not want to change the installed base of the ‘older’ tech. Who do you think were the ones that sold/pushed a lot of the chip technology/software (virtual banking as you called it) to Europe and Canada that is now supposedly migrating back to US…not Russian companies I can assure you!

    Life as you know is never a perfect straight line…lots of loops and meandering before the end is reached!

    And with that..I’ll loop out.

  47. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    I guess none of you know about in at least one US State, I think it was the Dakotas, chips were being inserted, I would imagine it was with consent, into people so…..and my memory is vague here…all their information can be accessed when they do transactions.

    The concept was developed by university students.

    If memory serves me, Europe was at one time planning to embed chips into people and phase out paper transactions…..slavery by another name, control by a another name…..that’s all those who control the paper have to sit around and do all day long, all year long, all decade long, all century long…..and repeat. Finding better and better ways to control.


  48. Folks
    …all these things already take place on a routine basis…
    That ‘discount card’ you carry…is nothing but a ‘common key’ that allows basic merchants to track what you buy; how much; how often; from where; what brand; and at what time of day…

    The passport /NID number; credit/debit card; cell phone; IP number; …all provide tracers of what you do, say, eat, …perhaps even think… (ask David(BU)….)

    THERE IS ONLY ONE WEAK POINT IN THE SYSTEM…

    Just like a fella can ‘borrow’ your Pricesmart card and go and make a purchase, another fellow can ‘borrow’ your credit card ….or indeed your passport …and make a transaction.
    The fingerprinting thing is intended to close that gap…. so that rather than a ‘lendable’ document, your ‘passport’ will actually become your fingerprint…

    This will work for a few months or years until ways and means of ‘borrowing’ fingerprints become common place through 3D printing of acrylic prints; super-imposition of temporary prints using special compounds…or some other technology (inevitably) gains momentum….

    Then they will have NO OPTION but to install unique identity chips (probably generated based on the person’s unique DNA code for possible double-checking) into each and every one who needs to conduct monetary, travel and other transactions… IT WILL BE THE ONLY PRACTICAL OPTION…..and without this, it will not be possible for anyone to buy, sell, or travel…

    ….now where did we hear of such a thing before…? 🙂


  49. Hey look who even have the nerve to talk about scare tactics .Well i’ll be damn. Nothing that was said in Parliament about the issue by the govt side while alluding to the ongoing developments in the international world were made up stories but past and ongoing events affecting other countries
    The fact being that the blp had a year to bring all these differences within the regulation to public attention but did not preferencing to use scare tactics clinging to freedom and rights .

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