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As a vivid figure of speech meaning something so fouled up as to be utterly useless, “dog’s breakfast” can cover anything from a play plagued by collapsing scenery to a space mission ruined by a mathematical error –Urban Dictionary

I am not among those theorists who imagine that the institution of government is inherently not to be trusted; that it is singularly devoted to the interests of its campaign financiers only; guided in its policies by some unknown shadows; and that its every initiative is to be viewed with suspicion.

Nor, equally, am I to be numbered among those who believe that governments have been placed there by divine right and that whatever they might conceive is therefore well done, pour le mieux, and should not, therefore, abide our question.

After all, any administration comprises but mere mortals with all their failings, inherent susceptibility to error and a natural liability to moments of insufficient or inadequate cerebration. It is for that reason that the apparent hostility between some members of the current governing administration and some members of the public with regard to the implementation of the collection of biometric data in the form of fingerprints of locals at the island’s ports of entry is to be regretted.

It is, of course, not my brief to advise this administration as to what should be its best approach to executing designed policy. However, I am of the considered view that in much the same way that shoddy implementation of the necessary decision to have Barbadian students at the Cave Hill Campus of UWI contribute to the cost of their tuition resulted in a substantial decline in student numbers and a loss of civic goodwill; the failures to state publicly and seasonably the rationale for the current disputed measure and to seek competent legal advice on the constitutional validity of its provisions have similarly served to ensure a degree of popular antipathy towards the government and to create a concomitant level of distrust among the citizenry. Unnecessarily so, I might add.

The truth is that there has been, at least since the start of the current decade, a global realization that the traditional methods of identification of persons –by photographs and numbers- had become obsolete; incapable of preventing identity theft; susceptible to other fraudulent abuses, and generally inadequate for their intended purpose. In an age of terrorist threat moreover, the then existing methods of identifying individuals had clearly become unsustainable.

In consequence, many jurisdictions sought to modernize their national ID databases from the simple photograph or number to include biometric identifiers, such as fingerprints, iris recognition, voice, gait and even DNA, which would authenticate individual identity and assist in border security.

And even though I have not yet heard it stated, it would appear as if Barbados is set to follow this global trend, at least in respect of the individual passport -if I am to judge from the provisions of the Immigration (Biometrics) Regulations 2015 where, according to regulation 6, any application for a passport, or for certain other stipulated registrations and permissions connected with residence in Barbados, must be accompanied by biometric data, as defined in that law, to be supplied to an immigration officer. Clearly then, the official intention seems to be to create a database of such information so as to ensure the authenticity of the relevant document.

Further, since there might have been some constitutional unpleasantry, as well as a logistical nightmare, in nullifying all the existing documents and having everyone apply for a new passport, as I have heard it suggested, it seems that officialdom took the ostensibly simplest way out, so far as its citizens are concerned, of attempting to create the database not only through new applications for the travel document itself, but also through the fingerprinting of those who use already issued ones at local ports. It is naturally to be expected therefore that there may be a similar future enterprise in respect of the national identification card.

Alarmingly and alas, none of this, to my best knowledge, was conveyed to the ordinary citizen, in circumstances where the element of biometric data required is primarily the one used by the police in criminal investigations and that may provide near conclusive evidence of culpability in a trial; in a country where there is an innate mistrust of any innovation; where, abnormally, citizens are to be required to provide their fingerprints in their own country on all travel occasions; and where, arguably, the governing administration is not, currently, at the height of popularity. In my view, the absence of prior communication in these contexts was a toxic potion for political disaster.

The direness of the situation has not been assisted either by a variety of other snafus. For one, my learned friend, Mr David Commissiong, claims to have discovered some procedural impropriety in the creation of the legislation itself and, accordingly, has launched a court action to nullify the Regulations entirely; for another, there is some further dispute as to whether it is constitutionally legitimate to prohibit nationals from re-entering Barbados, as appears to be the provision in Reg. 3 (5) –a situation that might have been avoided by simply stipulating for a summary offence and penalty for those citizens who refuse to submit to fingerprinting on their return to the country-; and the belligerent “robber-talk” and “grand-charge” by some highly-placed individuals who are sympathetic to the partisan political interests of the governing administration.

Of course, this will merely cause the issue to degenerate further into a “political dogfight” of abusion among the various supporters of the respective parties, rather than becoming the rational, informed conversation that we should be having on serious issues of contemporary national and individual security.

In a not strictly related decision of the European Court of Justice in October 2013, in a case brought by a German resident Michael Schwarz, who had applied for a passport, but refused to have his fingerprints taken, the Court ruled that although the taking and storing of fingerprints for passports under the German statute infringed the privacy and personal data rights of individuals guaranteed in the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights, it was, nevertheless, in line with European law, since it ensured protection against the fraudulent use of passports and outweighed personal privacy concerns about mandatory fingerprinting. The issue here does not touch or concern these issues, principally because neither right traversed is protected, adequately or at all, under local law and that the right implicated locally is that of freedom of movement.

It may not be too late for the governing administration to correct these deficiencies. It will require, however, a sea change in its mode of governance thus far…so we shall see. As it currently stands, a “dog’s breakfast” has unfortunately been made so far of a perfectly reasonable, though clearly opposable, objective.

Enjoy a peaceful Easter holiday.

80 responses to “The Jeff Cumberbatch Column – “A Dog’s Breakfast””


  1. Thank God – Bad Boy Bajans can no longer hide out in China.

    http://gisbarbados.gov.bb/index.php?categoryid=9&p2_articleid=15683

    Barbados And China Sign Two Treaties

    Published on March 23, 2016 by Kim Ramsay-Moore

    Acting Attorney General, Michael Lashley and China’s Vice Foreign Minister, Wang Chao signing the Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty as well as an Extradition Treaty at the Attorney General’s office today. (A.Miller/BGIS)Acting Attorney General, Michael Lashley and China’s Vice Foreign Minister, Wang Chao signing the Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty as well as an Extradition Treaty at the Attorney General’s office today. (A.Miller/BGIS)
    The Governments of Barbados and the People’s Republic of China today signed two treaties aimed at assisting each other in investigating criminal matters and bringing fugitives to justice.

    Acting Attorney General, Michael Lashley, signed a Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty as well as an Extradition Treaty on behalf of the Government of Barbados, while Vice Foreign Minister of the People’s Republic of China Wang Chao, initialled the documents on behalf of his country.

    Speaking after the official signing of the documents at the Office of the Attorney General in Wildey, Mr. Lashley explained that the Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty would enable both countries to receive assistance in terms of investigations, prosecutions and other proceedings related to criminal matters.

    The Extradition Treaty, he stated, would allow for more effective cooperation between the countries in the suppression of crime on the basis of mutual respect for sovereignty and equality.

    “The Government of Barbados is pleased to be a signatory to these treaties since they provide additional avenues for intelligence gathering at a time of widespread transnational crime including financial crime, cybercrime, human trafficking and smuggling.

    “In these circumstances, it is necessary to build partnerships for information sharing and other forms of cooperation as we seek to improve our ability to respond to these global challenges. The activation of these treaties will add value to the law enforcement milieu and help to strengthen investigative capacities and capabilities,” he added.

    Vice Minister Wang Chao pointed out that the treaties were yet another signal that Barbados and China maintained close relations and the ability to collaborate on important issues.

    He further lauded law enforcement in this country for assistance in the recent apprehension of two Chinese fugitives who had been on the run in the Caribbean and were eventually recaptured in St. Vincent.


  2. As the “discussion” continues, on BU, about biometric identification systems, with contributor presenting varying perspectives on the issue, I read a very interesting notice in the real estate section of the Thursday, March 24, 2016 edition of the Nation.

    On page 50 of the paper the following notice was found under the heading “Houses for rent”:

    3-BEDROOM, 1-BATHROOM UNFURNISHED WALL HOUSE. Seclusion Road, Black Rock, St. Michael. $1,000 monthly.
    First & last rent deposit, COPIES of Barbados ID & RECENT PAYSLIP required.

    Since when does a landlord have to know the earnings of a potential tenant and is the PRESENTATION of a payslip a LEGAL REQUIREMENT?


  3. LOL @ Artax
    …it is only a requirement if you want to rent THAT house….
    You think the life of a landlord is an easy one…?
    ha ha ha

  4. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Lol…Due Diligence, I believe the treaty is meant to be one sided, to be diplomatically polite, Adriel Brathwaite will actually sign the two way treaty and pretend that a Bajan member of the majority population, will go on the other side of the world, where there are 1.3 billion Chinese and take what would more than likely be a 3 day flight, with stop overs and plane changes here ,there and everywhere…to commit a crime, how much is a ticket to China anyway, probably the cost of a small estate….that would be too exhausting.

    Now the Caribbean would be an easy playground for the Chinese criminals to run amok, given the dumb mentality of the leaders….it’s only Interpol could halt those games.


  5. A yard-fowl’s ignorance always comes to the fore, and more so, when they try to spin the issue from the antagonist to the protagonist. As usual, the AC consortium of yard-fowls is SEEKING to POLITICIZE this issue by trying to turn it into a “BLP versus DLP scenario.”

    But de ICC called and suspended dum fuh uh suspected illegal bowling action.

    What does “alluding to the ongoing developments in the international world” have to do with BARBADIANS VOICING THEIR CONCERNS about or OBJECTING to providing an Immigration Officer with biometric data, each time they seek to enter or depart a port?

    If the Opposition or any other concerned citizen took ONE YEAR or even TEN YEARS “to bring all these differences within the regulation to public attention,” THEIR ACTION (however late) ACHIEVED the DESIRED OBJECTIVES.

    That is, it RESULTED in the government having to ADMIT they needed to examine any LEGAL IMPLICATIONS of the proposed policy, provide the PUBLIC with MORE INFORMATION and ultimately POSTPONING the April 1, 2016 implementation date.

    In other words the government, as usual, “put the horse before the cart”……… a FUNDAMENTAL CHARACTERISTIC of “FREUNDELISM.”

    Your comments “fact being that the BLP had a year to bring all these differences within the regulation to public attention,” are RHETORICAL PARTY POLITICAL DIATRIBE and should be dismissed as, (according to your leader): “what (you) say has as much value as what you would see in any garbage dump collected by the Sanitation Services Authority.”

    AC, yuh mean wunnuh gine leh me prove all de time what a bunch uh foolish ignorant yard-fowls wunnuh is? Shiite!!!!!


  6. WW&C

    But now the AG can have the Bajan Bad Boys who flee to China extradited back to BIM to serve time at Dodds.

    But it would be cheaper and safer for BIM to leave then there


  7. @ Bushie

    Yes, I think I know the meaning of a “black hat, but I could be wrong.” Years ago duh uses tuh got women dat did like to skin up duh dress, “block,” talk shiite and cuss everybody in de gap. The old people uses tuh call dem “black hats,” I en know if you mean de same t’ing.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Hahahahaha, Bushie, in that case the life of the tenant is not easy either. Fortunately, the landlord did not ask for a police certificate of character, letters from two references and certified copies of qualifications.


  8. Look you can phrase or rephrase any which way. There are no scare tactics that you or any blp yardfowl and opposition that can define what govt have said in parliament on the issue of finger printing and the importance and relevancy to the national Security.
    The knee jerk reaction taken by the opposition is akin to throwing a sprat to catch a whale .Then again if the opposition was as sincere in their disagreement it would not have taken them a whole year to realise that there were certain degrees of discrepancies that infringe on an individual rights.
    As usual the opposition has taken flight heading into the opposing direction.


  9. Well Well & Consequences March 28, 2016 at 2:16 PM #

    “Now the Caribbean would be an easy playground for the Chinese criminals to run amok, given the dumb mentality of the leaders….it’s only Interpol could halt those games.”

    @ WW&C

    This is where the biometric security system comes into play. When entering Barbados, the Chinese would have to comply with the Regulations and provide an Immigration Officer with his/her biometric data (unless dem is diplomats). As a result, law enforcement agencies will have a database of indentifying information, with which they could share with Interpol, FBI, CIA, MI5 or even Scooby Doo (causing he does solve crimes too).


  10. This issue is NOT about the Opposition, it is about an issue which once again demonstrates the meaning an inept administration you lot so often come to BU to defend.

    “If the opposition was as sincere in their disagreement it would not have taken them a whole year to realise that there were certain degrees of discrepancies that infringe on an individual rights” is IRRELEVANT…. So what, who cares. “The end justifies the means.”

    The FACT remains that the Opposition, Commissiong and all those individuals who used social and other media to voice their concerns about Barbadians being fingerprinted when they seek to enter or depart a port, ACHIEVED their DESIRED OBJECTIVES.

    And as such, even if the BLP’s motives were obviously political, “the end justifies the mean.” By postponing implementation of the policy, the government has essentially admitted they were wrong. Hence, a slap in the face of an adamant Freundel Stuart.

    The Opposition and other concerned groups also proved that the sudden implementation of the Immigration (Biometric) Regulations, 2015 was “a knee jerk reaction taken by the (government)” in adherence to policies, perhaps developed in extra-regional countries.

    Having to eventually rescind this directive, as in the case of the solid waste tax, other taxes and many other policy initiatives, this DLP administration has proven once again that, “as usual, they have taken flight heading into the opposing direction” of the Opposition Benches, come 2018.


  11. steupseee

  12. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Art…and that is simply what the prime minister and attorney general should have told the people, who are the real targets of the fingerprinting. ..instead they danced around the issue, making it seem that the whole Bajan population should be fingerprinted, entering and exiting the island.

    We all know it’s the international criminals being targeted with a few Bajans who get involved in criminal activities also , but being bottom feeders for tourism, they did not want to tell the truth and I know the US never told them to withhold information, give a good explanation or lie to the taxpayers about the issue, they do that by default, the final analysis is, they are now seen as world class jackasses. .lol

  13. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    *DON’T give a good explanation or lie to the taxpayers about the fingerprinting.

    See AC.. ya’ll are IDIOTS, IDIOTS….


  14. @DePD……….Not all anarchy is about putting the cart before the horse. Iceland had a very quiet anarchy without shots being fired. Our kind of Anarchist aren’t terrorist therefore we don’t need to have a handle on terrorist attacks. We don’t play with fire. Its your ‘democratically elected’ governments in the US, the UK, Turkey, Germany, Israhell, and Saudi Arabia to mention a few that are planning, funding, overseeing and implementing these attacks just like what you see in Brussels, Paris, San Bernadino 9/11, Pakistan, Africa, in NYC 9/11 and on and on. Shortly before the Brussels bombing some swine in Israhell made it clear that if the EU boycotted their goods there would be terror in Brussels…So there you have the Mossad getting down to business in Brussels and blaming the innocent. They all work for one master. The end game is total subjugation of this planet. Anyone with a modicum of self-respect would fight against this FORCE. But not to worry my fiend you too, should continue to be REAL SMART and vigilant.

    David Weeks aka JB aka…….You are about the smartest coconut in the bunch you and ur sodabix..Sodabix does come in handy when travelling and just in case u don’t have sodabix you can do like me and injest 2 level cup of soda…(1 for departure and 1 for arrival)…. for you see my friend soda wards off all forms of evil spirits and biometricity whether it be full body scans, retina scans or finger printing..soda protects your dna from this radiation. You might also need it to protect your knee caps from mortar fire while clearing those land mines.


  15. As usual, the incompetence of this government shows up in and on every level.

    Half way through their second term and they are still acting like neophytes on the job. No one seems to be able to tell the other come back…….that is not right.

    Soon after the DLP came to office, I was some place where the DLP was the hot topic. The discussion was on what happened in the House when Mia forced them to debate CLICO…….matters got hot between George Payne and the speaker who then threatened to put out the whole opposition.

    We of course did not know at the time that there was bad blood between the speaker and Payne as a result of the elderly man’s monies the speaker was withholding. The official said he told the speaker that he could not put out the whole opposition and that he had to deal with members on an indivual basis. The speaker did not seem to understand the rules and regulations. The official said that they tried to guide them but they were arrogant, they would not listen and felt they knew it all just because they were elected.

    This latest botch up is not a surprise. Square pegs in round holes.

    We should never the tag team of Donville and Stinkliar shouting across the floor telling Mia……….wunnah had 14 years, now is we time, we gine do things we way, any ideas wunnah got keep to wunnah selves!

    And we are surprised at the foul ups, bleeps and blunders and the outright lies in and out of the House?


  16. @ Caswell Franklyn March 27, 2016 at 8:20 AM #

    “The Electoral Office has already gone ahead and purchased new cameras but they have proven to be duds. Somehow they can’t seem to get the skin colour of caucasians correct.

    Government has already laid the bill in the House that will effect that change which will see all ID cards having to be reissued. The project is on hold until after the next General Elections.

    I also understand that the project would be outsourced to some suitably qualified Dem”

    ………………………………………………………………………

    You are so right………….here is what I know of the situation.

    I guess under orders, the specifications for this new ID card kept changing.

    They wanted to include the MTW as a form of a driver’s licence…….

    They wanted to include the NIS who wisely wanted no part of it as the NIS felt that their information would be compromised and predators could easily manipulate and steal from the old folk……..

    They wanted to include all ten fingerprints in the card as well….

    Well, the cost skyrocketed, Fugitsu eventually got the huge contract, deposits were paid out and it seems as if the project is on hold as the Electoral and Boundaries cannot make those kind of changes with an election due in two years.

    However up until recently, I am told that they were still renting spaces which were to be used as the information centres……..and you would know that not one of the spaces would be owned by any one not entilted to feed on the fatted calf.


  17. “Somehow they can’t seem to get the skin colour of caucasians correct.”

    The photo on my Ontario driver’s licence does not show skin colour.

    The photo on my OHIP card does not show skin colour.

    Canadian passport photos are in colour.


  18. @DPD
    Your Banking Industry conference from 07/08 and what you observed reminds me of someone who attends an Auto Show and looks at all the concept vehicles with their cutting edge technology and when some of the technology migrates to the new models a few years hence exclaims “that is old stuff”.

    Long story short the Bank wanted the list of countries that I was visiting (it was entirely optional and I filled it out online) but you can be in one place and the info on the magnetic strip on the back of the card can be on another plastic in another place, it had nothing to do with Data Mining so you can hang up your Las Vegas fantasy hat.

    Also, you probably misunderstood my point about virtual banking, I was referring to banking operations without bricks and mortar that customers can amble into, there are several in Canada ranging from Tangerine (part of ING Financial out of The Netherland) President Choice Financial (Part of the Loblaws chain) Canadian Tire Bank, Manufacturers Life Insurance etc., customers communicate with these institutions via Telephone or through the Internet.

    Last but not least I saw this article this afternoon which just happened to dovetail with this discussion

    http://www.thestar.com/business/2016/03/21/biometrics-in-technology-may-be-an-easier-way-to-id-yourself-but-is-it-safe.html


  19. Ahhhh, AC….. “steupseee” all yuh want……. de the truth does hurt.

  20. pieceuhderockyeahright Avatar
    pieceuhderockyeahright

    De Ole man checking is wid wunna bright people.

    Ammmm I was here thinking to myself and said ” myself, ammmm, wid all de MI5, 6, 7, Interpol, CIA, CIBC and CLICO dem got out there, myself how any of dem agencies going detect “clean skins” proselyted and activated after one single contact when I give them the explosive vests and suitcase with the shrapnel/ball bearings and marbles?”

    And myself answered and said “ole man, when de night comes, why you doan turn off de IPad and go sleep?”

    You have already lost this battle you know.

    It is just that the terrorists are “playing by your rules of Hollywood style engagement like in a Bruce Willis/Die Hard movie” but if they were true terrorists, as Putin is a really serious combatant, unlike the mock stick western governments now playing with this problem, the collective asses of ALL the western democracies would be in lockdown if …

    Won’t utter the word because once spoken it gains wings.

    There is really only one choice which MUST BE EFFECTED WHILE GOVERNMENTS DO WHAT IS A PUTIN MOVE, and this is to engage the enemy in the battleground of their mind but for some of us that is like a camel passing through the eye of a needle.

    The Lahore Modality note that I did not say incident, and those of you who understand the subtlety, will understand that the terrorists are upping their game.

    Many a cane fire in Barbados years ago was started by many an outstanding pillar of the Bajan community at 2016, and I can give you names.

    What is my point in that last statement? The terrorist movement has started to attract gazers and people who are observing the carnage that they are causing on the news AFTER they are causing it, in the same way a forensic officer examines a scene, they are returning to the scene of the crime electronically, to observe their carnage.

    Zuckenber, Mark Elliot enter stage left with the insidious and pervasive “I know who you are” algorithm has now has brought the “6 Degreesof Seperation” down to 3

    and, for those who understand who truly is a “Trojan horse”, clearly under stand that the Facebook Campaign in India – Free Basics is nothing at all to do with Net Neutrality.

    “They have eyes, but see not, and ears but hear not…”

  21. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Piece…, they care not.

    Hants…that is why, out of curiosity, I was asking Caswell, what color the Caucasian skin tone came out after being photographed with the new equipment. .lol

  22. pieceuhderockyeahright Avatar
    pieceuhderockyeahright

    And as if to underscore what I just ranted observe what is happening on the Net Neutrality Front http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35914195

    Read the entire article and pay especial attention to Apple’s CEO comments AND the withdrawal of the case.

    Four things to note.

    The Phone has been cracked

    They have publicized the cracking of the phone

    Cooke has reiterated Apples stance and

    They have dropped the case against Apple

    Each of these facts merits a thesis but in conjunction is a trove of information

    The phone is one “cell” which is either self initiated, sympathetic and spontaneous as a wannabe, with trappings of the actors thinking that what they were doing was rights, possibly borne out by the social posting, or proselytization of low order jihadists.

    In one case the phone will give nothing but individual data about two misguided people while in the other it will have trawlings for a one to one or one to many relationship.

    They were low order and the flax after the incident would, IF THEY WERE UNDER ORDERS, lean to one to one at best, or stand alone.

    One to one proselytization would have chosen a “target of greater interest”, not workers at an office party for a not for profit entity which works with persons with disabilities.

    That the phone, the iPhone, with its seemingly impregnable security has been cracked, that the Case has bee dropped seems to suggest a compromise where a trusted broker, armed with apple software, war permitted to effect the hack in exchange for the removal of the charges. at his is a publicity stunt that confirms that in addition to a self initiated misguided incident, the phone was devoid of any additional information

  23. pieceuhderockyeahright Avatar
    pieceuhderockyeahright

    And as if to further substantiate the ineffective of fingerprinting here is a notable fact about the female Muslim attacker in the San Bernadino incident.

    “…As is standard practice, as part of her visa application with the State Department and application for a green card, Malik submitted her fingerprints and underwent “three extensive national security and criminal background screenings” using Homeland Security and State Department databases.

    Malik also underwent two in-person interviews, the first with a consular officer in Pakistan and the second with an immigration officer in the U.S. after applying for a green card…”

    So unless you are known to the law or have, by dint of association occasioned by comments on websites, telephone calls to persons of interest, too many Hajj visits, too many subscriptions to Islamic magazines or website cookies, retrieved by Microsoft, AND, apple and being added to the all Pervasive Terrorist Screening Database, the fingerprinting exercise is a waste of time as it relates to the greatest threats.

    Green card holders, K1 and B1/B2 visa holders need not be too important for your investigations where you are failing TERRIBLY, WITH INCREASINGLY WORSE PROGNOSES EVERY DAY, lies in you inability to staunch the ever increasing cadre of the disaffected, in that understood?

    Your problem is that you cannot understand who your enemy is, and Abraham Lincoln, because he speaks of freeing the niggahs, even though he is your president, becomes the enemy, purely because of perceived dissent.

    But I forget that he is not the only president and son of your soil that you gents killed, is he?

    My pally George dribbler all like now saying huh? He ranting in truth, but the crypto analysts understand o say can we see..


  24. “He further lauded law enforcement in this country for assistance in the recent apprehension of two Chinese fugitives who had been on the run in the Caribbean and were eventually recaptured in St. Vincent.”

    Be careful to what we attach our signatures. Two chinese fugitives or ‘political dissidents ‘

  25. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @Pieces, excellent perspective re “That the phone,…with its seemingly impregnable security has been cracked… seems to suggest a compromise where a trusted broker … permitted to effect the hack in exchange for the removal of the charges. …”———-

    I was trying to figure out how the FBI went from being stalled in the desert to zooming round the world in 60 secs!

    @Sargeant March 28, at 10:12 PM ..you crafted an lovely analogy re “… reminds me of …. all the concept vehicles…and when some of the technology migrates … exclaims “that is old stuff”.”

    But you overlook that if the US auto introduces ‘concept tech’ to their customers in 2016 that has been in cars across Europe as early as late 1990s and already performing wonders there then it isindeed ‘old stuff’ when it finally migrates into cars in US!

    A few basics…The data is readily available on net.

    —- France were the first with this and had excellent bank card fraud ratios and it was reported that the UK saw over 20% decrease when they intro’ed the standards after 2004.

    —– The relevant standard re bank card tech migration to stronger security is called EMV. Canada started to implement and update the fundamental to meet standard requirements since 2012 or thereabouts… In fact one of your big Canadian firms there (multinational owned) is G&D (Gieche and Devrient) which is very prominent in this industry.

    …. …all real cars long ago tested and driven successfully on the road…no driver-less concept vehicle here!!!!!

    Here is one comment from an ’08 article which crystallizes the general feeling by many industry journalists at the time which suggested that US banks were willing to live with the billions in fraud … It was a simple straightforward risk-reward analysis. That is changing significantly now clearly.

    ——- << The argument against EMV migration in the States has largely fallen on the huge investment retailers and bankers would have to make….

    … purchasing EMV-compliant POS systems and issuing EMV-compliant cards has made migration cost prohibitive, without having high card-fraud numbers nudging the initiative.

    … But a move to RFID contactless puts a similar financial demand on retailers and bankers. POS systems must be replaced and cards must be reissued.

    …My question: Why are Visa and MasterCard allowing the United States to take a baby step when a leap makes more sense? Jan. 8, 2008, by Tracy Kitten >>

    The US is FINALLY coming to the party after some of those mammoth data hacks …no longer is it a fraction of a problem and surely it stopped being just a ‘concept’ at the turn of 2000…long ago!

  26. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Piece…call it linguistic inversion and a sudden change it value..that sums it up.

  27. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    *sudden change in value.


  28. Just posting what is being discussed on the VOBchat…………apparently a drunken Attorney General got into an accident at the four crossing after Boarded Hall hitting a car……………….and we wait to see if he will be charged with drunken driving……………………..

    Chatters want to know how he culd come out and talk about the reckless driving of the PSV drivers when he was caught driving intoxicated!


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