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by caribbeantradelaw France+Paris+Attacks_FranceIf we destroy human rights and rule of law in the response to terrorism, they have won. Joichi Ito (Japanese-American entrepreneur) In the best of times human rights and national security interests enjoy an uneasy tension.

In the darkest annals of human [โ€ฆ]existence as in the aftermath of a terrorist tragedy like that

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127 responses to “Human Rights vs National Security Interests: An Uneasy Tension”

  1. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    M. Hutson…..and yours also sounds like juju. In reality, Bush went into Iraq on a lie, WMD that never existed so I do not see how….”the invasion itself wasn’t an awful idea” it was pure manipulation, deceit and downright criminal, you may not have seen the conspiracy because you were not there, but anyone who was present would tell you on 9/11, just before the US was shut down, the only family allowed to leave the country was the Ben Laden family of Saudi Arabia, I see your information is not only faulty but delusional. It does not match up with reality.

  2. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ M. Hutson November 17, 2015 at 5:32 PM

    Listen M. Hutson, you may see it as vitriol; others might see it as clear warning signs of what will soon attend the Caribbean especially those territories with a large presence of Europeans and Americans as their main source of economic survival.

    Here is a question for you:
    Why do these so-called terrorists attack easy targets? Innocent ordinary people? Why not go after the people who are allegedly responsible for their plight? When will they take out the heads and the rich and famous instead of the innocent men, women and children?

    Stop seeing this problem through rose-colored lenses while sitting in your comfortable lounge chair reading a book full of conspiracy theories.


  3. Well Well

    The truth of the matter is 9/11 had nothing at all to do with Iraq, and GWB knew from the get go that Saddem Hussein did not possessed Weapons of Mass Destruction, but he used 9/11 as an opportunity to exact revenged on Saddam Hussein, who plotted to kill his father on a trip to Saudi Arabia.


  4. Miller

    The terrorists know that by killing innocent men, women and children rather than the movers and shakers and power brokers of government, that they are striking at the heart of the society.

    I attended a concert at the National Stadium during the early 1980s, and I over heard a bad boy from Bush Hall saying to another: “If your really want to hurt the police, you strike where is hurt most, their childern.”

    And that comment remained etched in my mind some thirty years later because I knew some of those police men kids personally.


  5. We do not hear an outcry from the citizenry in this part of the world because we have allowed ourselves to be brainwashed by North American media. How many watched local TV for news, How many read books by local authors? How many visit neighbouring islands for the vacation experience? How many of us have the taste for local cuisine?

    We have raised a generation who are disengaged from things indigenous.

  6. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Dompey…exactly, I watched that retarded fool on television admit he invaded Iraq because “Saddam tried to kill my daddy” an out and out lie also since his daddy was in bed with Saddam for years as history has proven.


  7. @Miller

    Do you deny that there is a place for academic idealism? Does it not create a necessary tension when in search of solutions?


  8. Miller

    I attended the annual Police Christmas Party with the police men kids for years, so I developed a close relationship with many of them during my youthful years.


  9. The human right’s bar has been set extremely low for my African brothers who reside in the Middle East and in the region that we now call North Africa.

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/oct/20/saudi-prince-murder-justice


  10. @Exclaimer, thanks for sharing this.

  11. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ David November 17, 2015 at 7:12 PM
    โ€œDo you deny that there is a place for academic idealism? Does it not create a necessary tension when in search of solutions?โ€

    You mean like the post on another thread which goes as follows:
    โ€œcaribbeantradelaw November 17, 2015 at 7:13 PM #
    @David, Well said and agreed. It is one of the reasons why I wish we had actual election debates here so we could hear the views of our future leaders on things like regional integration, health care policy, education policy etcโ€ฆso we the electorate can make a more informed decision on whom to choose.โ€

    I guess your bantamweight intellectual never read the many manifestoes or attended the mass meetings of the many Caribbean political parties especially the more ICT-sophisticated ones in Barbados.
    Alicia certainly cannot be on Baffyโ€™s Xmas list.


  12. @Exclaimer

    It is hard to believe this kind of thing is happening in this day and age to borrow an old term. Yet we hear nothing from Human Right organizations.


  13. @Miller

    Alicia passed your ‘stress test’ long time.


  14. @David,
    Re your point about not hearing anything of these abuses from the human rights organisations, I think that it is highlighted in their human rights reports but do not make major headlines in the mainstream media. Human Rights Watch usually does a good job of reporting.


  15. @Miller, David &Well Well;
    John 14:1…..”Let not your heart troubled…” We All have to and will. By one means or the other, and we have no control over that.


  16. @ above; it shouid have read; “we all have to go. and will”….


  17. @David and @Exclaimer, Human Rights Watch Report on Saudi Arabia: https://www.hrw.org/middle-east/n-africa/saudi-arabia

  18. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Alvin…..we do have to let the young people know what they are not aware of, even what some our age are not aware of in present day real time. We also try to not let our hearts be troubled.

    No one would believe, particularly a black person, that these Arabs still go into Africa, still kidnap and enslave men, women and children, still believe themselves to be superior AND holds the West to ransom on a regular basis because they have them by their greedy balls for at least the last 3 decades. The West is now only pretending to be in control, they lost control in the last 2 decades.

  19. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    “Saudi Arabia will employ all of its significant economic and diplomatic clout to intimidate and silence anyone who dares to challenge it on human rights grounds. According to The Intercept, the news site co-founded by Glenn Greenwald, Riyadh has recently hired several PR firms and lobbyists in Washington, including The Podesta Group, Edelman and DLA Piper to try to burnish its image.

    But no PR campaign can whitewash the lashing of an elderly man, the public beheading of an alleged child offender, or the senseless bombing of Yemeni civilians. People are starting to take noticeโ€”and perhaps if the U.S. government raised its voice for human rights the Saudi government would rein in its abuses.”

    It’s well known that Europe and North America can do nothing about Saudi Arabia and are frightened of them.


  20. @Well Well, I agree with your analysis and it supports one of the HR and national security tensions I highlighted in my article of how states are often willing to turn a blind eye to their allies’ human rights violations because their relationship is more important for their geopolitical and economic interests. Saudi Arabia has a horrendous human rights record, no less in their treatment of women but is one of the US’ main allies in the ME due to the geopolitics of oil.


  21. lets get serious here, if a group of people were coming to Barbados and one was thought to have ebola they aint getting in until the govt is sure that they don’t. People can yell racism whatever but a country owes its own citizens first and has to make sure whoever is coming in is not a risk. Some people can get on there high horse and say it isn’t right, cnn shows the poor kids and we all feel bad, but ask any French parent who lost there child in the theatre how they feel. I am an immigrant my wife is an immigrant most of my friends are 1st or second generation immigrants we came with the intent to build a life not to take one.


  22. @lawson the majority of refugees are simply fleeing the devastation in their homeland and looking for a safe place to resettle with their families, not to take lives. Refugees are also required to undergo vetting and screening more so than ordinary immigrants. So are we saying that because it is alleged that one of the paris attackers may have pretended to be a refugee we should deny asylum to all Syrian refugees, contrary to the UN Convention re refugees? Isn’t that a retrograde step?


  23. the problem is it is almost impossible to vette these people, the US govt says they cant even do it . I watched Fareed’s show last night these people are brain washed, I have no issue with bringing good people in however fighting age men should fight for there country. A lot of them have no problem picking up weapons once they get into yours.I am not talking just about Syrians I mean anybody. The Vietnamese boat people came to Canada and enjoyed the benefits of our country but didn’t want us dead for helping them


  24. @ Lawson
    Skippa, why don’t you give it up nuh?
    You expect to argue logic and common sense against emotionalism?

    The natural order of things is the survival of the FITTEST …. not the survival of the nicest…

    All these ‘goody-two-shoes’ with their sweet sounding open door policies.. (and it would be remiss of Bushie not to mention Bushie’s Pal Enuff here ๐Ÿ™‚ ) will soon come to the realisation that the law of SURVIVAL comes at the very BASE of Maslow’s order of priorities….

    By all means, we NEED to assist the Syrians …… by REBUILDING their country and helping them to make it safe…

    Take note of this Bushie prophecy for reference in the near future….
    When the shit hits the fan in Europe and North America, …..where they gonna run to…?
    There will be much running ‘to and fro’…..

    You gotta little spot reserved in Bim Lawson…? The sargassum gone…..


  25. Good about the seaweed ….I am happy to hear Barbados is vetting the Syrians they have promised to bring in. BT I would buy a place tomorrow except your crime is getting bad, because like these pockets of terrorists that everyone from that community probably knows about but don’t tell authorities is like the criminals in Barbados where there neighbours wont out them so I will stick with the devil I know. I cant wait till they start cancelling cricket matches because of terrorist threats ….then heads will roll


  26. Trust Bushie Lawson….
    Barbados will REAL good to you just now….

    …and what cancel what cricket what? …no need for that.
    The only people at these matches nowadays are the lousy players, the empires, and a few commentators….
    The stands are empty…..

  27. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/refugees-shouldn-turned-writes-syrian-n-article-1.2438386

    This might put things into perspective. I am not in the least bit enamored of Arabs, it has nothing to do with racism, because they are brown people, even if in denial. I have a problem with their culture, religion and attitudes to black people, in saying that, where will Barbados put Syrian refugees, they do not have jobs for their own people. Syrians are a business minded people and veyr ambitious. Barbados has enough business people who are parasites without conscience. I believe the same can be said of the whole Caribbean. Though I understand Cariblaws points, the leaders will have to ask themselves some hard questions.

    The current batch of refugees might only have a few terrorists sneaking in, but what about 20 years from now when their children and grandchildren become young adults and are seething with anger after learning of their history. What about the fact that North America and Europe are afraid of terrorism and are looking to protect themselves only, who will protect the Caribbean, a majority black region, just like unprotected Africa. I love to look ahead.


  28. My son was bullied because he has autism?????????? so he has come to America where his son will be on doctors,medicines and aid for the rest of his life what??????? when vets and the poor cant even be looked after by the their govt .


  29. From caribbeantradelaw, two quotations:

    “Groups like ISIL prey on young persons who feel alienated from Western societies in which they were born but are never treated like equals. In this regard, it is incumbent on western nations to address some of these issues to help reduce the attractiveness of radicalisation to these youth.”

    “So are we saying that because it is alleged that one of the paris attackers may have pretended to be a refugee we should deny asylum to all Syrian refugees, contrary to the UN Convention re refugees? Isnโ€™t that a retrograde step?”

    Can we glimpse here not just an “uneasy tension” but a flat-out contradiction?

    That’s to say, if Muslim youths in Western societies feel so alienated from those societies that they are easy prey for the psychopathic leaders of a Muslim-fascist nihilist death cult, then surely it is common prudence on the part of Western governments to pursue a more restrictive immigration policy, not a more liberal one.

    Otherwise those Western governments might simply be storing up trouble for the future by admitting even more people who will have a sense of cultural alienation and perpetual grievance, and who thus are easy prey for the psychopathic leaders of a Muslim-fascist nihilist death cult.

    Or is it that the governments of Western nations should reorder their whole societies, solely in order to accommodate the kind of mentality that is inherently susceptible to the siren song of Islamofascism?

    Let’s all be honest about this. Let’s all examine our consciences and our well-meaning hearts … Last week, in the first seconds that you heard the first scraps of news about the first explosions and shootings in Paris, how many of you immediately thought: “Damn, the Baptists are at it again. Or maybe the Methodists. Probably, this time, a particularly ultra-violent wing of the Jehovah’s Witnesses got their hands on some serious ammo.”

    How many of you thought ANYTHING like that?


  30. @millerthetwerp

    You asked me a direct question. Sorry for the late reply. Here’s the question:

    “Why do these so-called terrorists attack easy targets? Innocent ordinary people? Why not go after the people who are allegedly responsible for their plight? When will they take out the heads and the rich and famous instead of the innocent men, women and children?”

    Here’s the reply:

    I suspect (this is just a wild guess, a speculative shot in the dark) that they attack easy targets because it’s easy to attack easy targets. Maybe I’m wrong, but it’s my best so-called guess, allegedly.

    As to when they will “take out … the rich and famous”, I’d have to make a so-called admission that I allegedly don’t know.

    Again, sorry about the tardy response but I had some vague recollection that I might have encountered your so-called thoughts before, so I had to consult the archives, allegedly.

    Lo and, indeed, behold, here you are on BU a mere nine months ago, in March 2015, announcing to the so-called world that “Jews first god is Ferengi Gold-Pressed Latinum with their desert Yahweh trailing far behind.”

    Man, millerthetwerp, you really are an equal-opportunity hater, aren’t you. I mean, so-called and allegedly.

  31. caribbeantradelaw Avatar
    caribbeantradelaw

    Firstly, many of you intimate that I am solely speaking from a basis of emotion when from your comments and stereotypes it is clear that you yourselves are doing such, albeit from a different emotion, fear. This is evident from many of your statements which express a general fear of Muslims and of Arabs as terrorists. You see them as “trojan horses”. I see them as humans like all of us.

    Secondly, you assume that because the Syrian refugees are Muslims, ergo they are terrorists. Let me remind you that acts of terrorism are not confined to fundamentalist Muslims alone but to fundamentalists in all religions. The only difference is that when Christians commit acts of terror they are rarely highlighted. So for those of you who call yourselves Christians how would you like if someone stereotyped you based on the actions of the anti-abortionist Christians who bomb abortion clinics? Or the white supremacist who shot up and killed people in a Sikh temple because he was too stupid to realise the difference between a Sikh and Muslim.

    Thirdly, those of you who say you are immigrants I wonder if you realise that if certain right wing governments had their way neither you nor your families would have been allowed to immigrate to your present countries due to stereotypes of immigrants as job takers, criminals, drains on the social system or in the colourful words of one Republican presidential candidate in relation to Mexican immigrants โ€œrapists and drug dealersโ€. Stereotypes arenโ€™t so fun now are they?

    Fourthly, refugees are heavily screened and vetted. I am not sure how many of you are familiar with the refugee process but refugees undergo much more robust screening than would an ordinary migrant. They have to be registered with the UNCHR and go through a variety of processes before they can be finally admitted to a country for resettling.

    Fifthly, and on a point which really isnโ€™t important to me but Iโ€™ll raise it anyway, I find it quite amusing some of the assumptions that I am too young to understand or have no stake in what goes on in western countries. None of you here knows me to be able to make such assumptions. I have lived abroad and also have friends and loved ones in these countries so I have every interest in what happens.

    Sixthly, I have no interest in swaying your opinions. What you think is your business. I am just here to defend my views as an author, which any author, particularly in regards to a topic like this which inflames passions, should be prepared and happy to do. I am happy that the majority of you, even in your robust disagreement with my views have managed to do so in a manner that is civil.


  32. I also forgot to mention that the argument that Isis has been able to recruit supporters solely due to religion is flawed. Defectors and other research have shown that many join for monetary reward and because Isis is fighting Assad. Many had no idea what they were getting into and defected due to the killing of fellow Muslims and non Muslims. Also what many of you forget is that Isis victims includes fellow Muslims including the same Syrian refugees you demonize.


  33. Caribbeantradelaw

    All of that, agreed. Looking forward to that Little Port au Prince in Bim any day now. Brotherly African love is a wonder to behold. We can just see the BU family greeting all those creole-speaking refugees at the port and helping to settle them into their new Bajan home. Bajans, afterall, are famed globally for their welcoming disposition to immigrants, especially our African bretheren.


  34. @m hutson
    For the record I have no problems with Haitians (I have haitian friends by the way) and should we need to take refugees from Haiti I would not be against it. The difference with me is that having lived abroad, being a frequent traveller, doing business with foreigners and and being conversational in several foreign languages I am a lot more open minded and tolerant than many people.


  35. Other WordPress Blogs about Paris terrorist tragedy.

    โ€œDonโ€™t be who ISIS wants you to beโ€: Bloggers on Paris and Beirut

    by Michelle W.

    Telling stories has power; they connect us, help us work through the raw emotion, and give us a way to make sense of events. After last week’s devastating violence in Paris and Beirut, these nine bloggers shared theirs, helping us do just that. Reading their posts may not be easy — but it is important.

    Cultive le Web, "Attentats ร  Paris, jโ€™รฉtais rue de Charonne"

    A writer from Cultive le Web was out for an evening with friends Friday night when shooting began on the rue de Charonne. The staccato phrasing of this play-by-play post captures brings readers some tiny measure of the fear, panic, and disbelief. It’s an unvarnished outpouring we wish he had no occasion to write, but are glad he did.

    9:45 p.m. Noise, screams. A fight? A rowdy crowd there at the bar? They must be drunk, like on any Friday night in Paris, right? I come closer. A group of people has formed on the other side of the sidewalk. "Kalashnikov shots." "Casualties." "Dozens of casualties." "Broken glass, everywhere." There’s a gush of details — who to believe? What to make out of this? What are they talking about? A shoot-out? Settling scores like in Marseille? But thinking about it, why not a terrorist attack? I ask, naively. "Obviously it’s a terrorist attack!" answer the patrons who’d fled running, all at once.*

    *Translated from the French by WordPress.com editor Ben Huberman.

    The Seventy Fifth, "Sense and Senselessness"

    Patrick lives in Paris’ 11e arrondissement, a short walk from Le Bataclan. Waking up the morning after Friday’s attacks, he looks for patterns in the violence that might give him hints for staying safe  — but finds none.

    It makes sense, sadly, that an attack may occur at or near a French football match โ€“ the President was there, after all. We can avoid large displays of nationalism, sports, culture or otherwise. But must we also avoid all American rock bands? Was it something about the name Eagles of Death Metal? Do we stay inside on Friday the 13th? Never patronise Cambodian restaurants? How long is a piece of string?

    Hummus for Thought, "Beirut, Paris"

    Paris isn’t the only city in mourning; bombings in Beirut last week left over 40 people dead. Lebanese blogger Joey reflects on the lack of global attention on Lebanon, with sense of resignation tempered by the hope that we can do better.

    โ€˜Weโ€™ donโ€™t get a safe button on Facebook. โ€˜Weโ€™ donโ€™t get late night statements from the most powerful men and women alive and millions of online users.

    โ€˜Weโ€™ donโ€™t change policies which will affect the lives of countless innocent refugees.

    This could not be clearer.

    I say this with no resentment whatsoever, just sadness.

    A Separate State of Mind, "From Beirut, This is Paris"

    On A Separate State of Mind, Elie reacts with more anger than resignation — anger at the world for caring more about Paris, but also at his countrymen and women for seeming to do the same.

    We can ask for the world to think Beirut is as important as Paris, or for Facebook to add a โ€œsafety checkโ€ button for us to use daily, or for people to care about us. But the truth of the matter is, we are a people that doesnโ€™t care about itself. We call it habituation, but itโ€™s really not. We call it the new normal, but if this [is] normality then let it go to hell.

    In the world that doesnโ€™t care about Arab lives, Arabs lead the front lines.

    Everybody’s Talking at Once, "How Refusing to Be United Makes Us Stronger"

    Video game blogger Drew turned to more serious topics after the attacks on Paris, penning a thought-provoking post on whether being "united" against terror is a laudable goal, or a positive idea at all.

    Itโ€™s a sobering (and, it must be said, fundamentally French) thought: That the people killed in Paris โ€œhad declared warโ€ on terrorism not because they imagined themselves conscripted into a fighting force, and certainly not because they marched in cultural and rhetorical lockstep, but specifically because they werenโ€™t in lockstep. They were living out the messier, more joyful, less โ€œunitedโ€ way of life that terrorism seeks to undermine…

    We donโ€™t have to be united. We donโ€™t have to agree. We donโ€™t always have to โ€œstand together,โ€ even. Thatโ€™s precisely what makes us strong, and thatโ€™s precisely what makes our way of life worth defending.

    John Scalzi, "Paris"

    Author John Scalzi also veered from his regular bailiwick, science-fiction. His short but impassioned piece exhorts us to avoid giving credence to the Islamic State’s black-and-white worldview by refusing to conflate "Muslim" and "terrorist."

    Donโ€™t do what ISIS wants you to do. Donโ€™t be who ISIS wants you to be, and to be to Muslims. Be smarter than they want you to be. All it takes is for you to imagine the average Muslim to be like you, than to be like ISIS. If you can do that, you make a better world, and a more difficult one for groups like ISIS to exist in.

    Idiot Joy Showland, "How to Politicise a Tragedy"

    Analyses of tragic situations are quickly followed by calls to stop politicizing tragedy — i.e., to stop analyzing at all, and allow people space to grieve. Idiot Joy Showland‘s Sam Kriss rejects that request, explaining why in this cogent piece.

    When itโ€™s deployed honestly, the command to not politicise means to not make someoneโ€™s death about something else: itโ€™s not about the issue youโ€™ve always cared about; itโ€™s not about you. To do this is one type of politics. But thereโ€™s another. Insisting on the humanity of the victims is also a political act, and as tragedy is spun into civilisational conflict or an excuse to victimise those who are already victims, itโ€™s a very necessary one.

    Natalia Antonova, "In Paris they ask the right questions"

    Natalia’s poem was written well before last week’s events but published this week, a fitting tribute to the city of love.

    In Paris they ask the right questions:

    โ€œCognac, armagnac, or calvados?โ€

    And, โ€œWhy are your eyes so blue?โ€

    โ€œDo you know how to get back home?โ€

    โ€œIs it finally time to kiss you?โ€

    Pascale Guillou, "Restoring Hope and Innocence"

    Illustrator Pascale, a Frenchwoman living in the Netherlands, reacted with pen and ink. Her lines are simple but heartbreaking, reminding us of something we all want but can’t have — whether we’re in France, Lebanon, or anywhere else.

    pascale_guillou_innocence_2015_11_15


  36. @Well Well,
    RE: Saudi Arabia. It is THEIR law. Why should or must they adhere to Western dictates. And they are also black people.


  37. Dave asks:

    “How many read books by local authors?”

    Good question, Dave. When you read “In the Castle of My Skin”, what do you think was Lammings most perceptive insight? You’ve read it, obviously. What do you think was his most perceptive insight?

  38. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Alvin….go telling the Saudis they are black people and they will behead you….lol

    You keep forgetting something called international human rights Alvin, people have the right to expect better from their governments. Most of us know your DBLP would love to practice human rights abuses and more violations on the vulnerable in Barbados, the only thing stopping you is that you would have your asses hauled off to the Hague to stand trial for human rights abuses, hence the reason you are still so subtle with brutality. Ha!!!


  39. @Well Well.
    What do you think of Boko Haram, They are Africans and Black, kidnapping torturing and killing Blacks

  40. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ M. Hutson November 18, 2015 at 2:33 PM
    โ€œMan, millerthetwerp, you really are an equal-opportunity hater, arenโ€™t you. I mean, so-called and allegedly.โ€

    Equal opportunity hater alright, I am! Yes indeed!
    Hater of liars and hypocrites who hide behind the shield of religion to exploit and kill others.
    You know alirght; like financing the slave trade; RC paedophiles; abuse of women and honour killings in the name of some prophet; beating and killing homosexuals and discriminating against people because of their racial or ethnic background all in the name of their almighty gods.

    As far as I am concerned ISIS falls squarely into that list with their motto: โ€œTo embarrass a few and promote our political agenda of evil why not kill the innocentโ€. Just like the story in the Judeo-Christian book of myths and cultural outrage; why not kill all boy children under 2 years to get at one; a perfect story of mass murder.
    I would like to see you or anyone putting a spin on that one to justify the โ€œallegedโ€ slaughter of the innocent.

    Your friendly neighbourhood hater, miller the twerp.

    Ps: Oh, BTW, Twerp Miller happens to be a Buddhist. Better make that a Taoist.

  41. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    So Alvin…..because these boko haram are black you feel they have some given right to rape, pillage and rampage through Africa like monsters. What I think is that the right cluster bomb has not been invented for them yet, to obliterate the dark forces that consume them.

    What you incessantly show is because the Saudis rule, they own the people, and that they should also be free to rein terror on and abuse their own people, where did you get that god complex Alvin.

    Because black governments are given a mandate by the people on the island, does not mean they are given free rein to abuse their positions. You have been on here acting as though governments when elected automatically assume ownership of the people and should then suppress any and all freedoms as they see fit, which does not fit into their greed and secret keeping. What is up with that Alvin, Bajans ought to be glad that you never pursued a political life, what’s with the massa mentality?


  42. @Well Well,

    Bull!!

    I have lived and worked among them. Your perceptions are wrong .
    The concept of International Human Rights is not universally and innately applicable or acceptable to everyone. As I said, try telling that to the members of Boko Haram and see where it will get you. And don’t equate Barbadian civilization with any of these people, we don’t come nowhere close. What brutality are you talking about? Where is it?

  43. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Alvin Cummins November 18, 2015 at 8:16 PM
    โ€œWhat do you think of Boko Haram, They are Africans and Black, kidnapping torturing and killing Blacksโ€.

    For one, they certainly can’t use the alibi of being alienated in the ghettoes of Western cities and being deprived of opportunities to advance to what or wherever so they can become radicalized to wage jihad against the Western pork-loving, homosexual-embracing, gender equality non-believers.
    Neither have Western countries bombed their African villages.

    Maybe they (the Europeans) bought oil and minerals (even people) for next to nothing or for mirrors and trinkets with most of the proceeds from the trade ending up in Western banks in the names of native elite political and otherwise.

  44. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Alvin……you are never going to get sane people with experience agreeing with you that ignorant men with a god mentality and a diseased superiority complex, once they get political or some other form of brutal power over their people, should then brutalize, rape, kill and blatantly sell out, steal from and keep secrets from the same people who pay their salaries. That is mentally defective thinking.

    Dictators have been dragged out of their countries, the most brutal ones have been executed and assasinated for that type of behavior. Some had to run to other countries seeking exile. What sickness consumes you that you believe other humans should be brutalized and victimized by their leaders, maybe you slept too close to those boko haram animals.


  45. @Well Well,

    What massa mentality are you talking about? You blamed the reactions of extremists, among the blacks, on the slave trade. Now I draw your attention to Boko Haram, inhabitants of darkest Africa, untouched by the slave trade, and show they are no different, you are talking about rights and mass mentality. I never even hinted that they were right in what they do. And don’t make it personal. I refuse to -as the older people used to say- hold people up in my mind because of the past. Neither will I hold a grudge against anyone because of past indiscretions. Dark forces are found everywhere, among all peoples, and ethnic origins. I think it is time you change your outlook and rein in your hatred and dislikes. Don’t see people of certain ethnic, financial, political or colours as automatically denizens of the dark.


  46. @Well Well,
    If I believed the creation story, as written in the Bible (Genesis) I would have to direct you to the story of Cain and Abel, the first two offspring of the first two people created and ask you what happened to them. Why did Cain kill Abel? Why did the creator cast his two creations out of the Garden knowing they had nowhere to go. Why did he place the angel Gabriel at the entrance to ensure they did not get (sneak) back; he did not just put him at the entrance, he gave him a flaming sword.
    My approach to life may not attract the approval of sane people; if they don’t wish to agree with me, no big deal.

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    Well Well & Consequences

    Alvin….maybe you have not lived long enough and you have not been free spirited enough. Which part of Africa you know was not touched by the slave trade, name one country you know.as to likes and dislikes, I tell you upfront how I feel, you don’t like it (pun intended) too bad..lol

    You always seem to think governments are right in everything wrong they do and citizens should accept, grin and bear yet, that is mental defect, a disease called denial, don’t like that….pun intended, too bad. People are not chattel or are not supposed to be, not in this era. You have to learn to accept reality…..Alvin.

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    Well Well & Consequences

    Yeah, yeah, none of that can buy a cup of coffee. Mankind has always been evil, more so when people were unaware. People’s eyes are open now, there is no turning back.

    Alvin….by the way, you were supposed to get back to me re HPV vaccine you and your government were hot to inject into the veins of young vulnerable children on the island because some white man and a few doctors told yall there was an HPV epidemic, you never got back to me when it was exposed as a scam…what happened?

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    millertheanunnaki

    @ Alvin Cummins November 18, 2015 at 9:02 PM
    โ€œWhy did Cain kill Abel? Why did the creator cast his two creations out of the Garden knowing they had nowhere to go. Why did he place the angel Gabriel at the entrance to ensure they did not get (sneak) back; he did not just put him at the entrance, he gave him a flaming sword.โ€

    That explains everything that is “evil” in the world today, right Alvin?
    It’s in our genes from Adam & Eve or Flip Wilsonโ€™s devil made us do it and god allowed it to happen.

    Adam & Eve disobedience into the underworld of sex and Cainโ€™s parthenogenesis of murder are responsible for the evil acts of mankind through the ages.

    Does that fairy tale of murder also explain the brutal exploitation of the Chinese people by the Japanese during World War 2? What about the reason why one group of chimpanzees would raid, rape, pillage and kill another group of chimps?
    Maybe its all in our genes, all 98% of them!

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