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BU shares the Jeff Cumberbatch Barbados Advocate column โ€“ Senior Lecturer in law at the University of the West Indies since 1983, a Columnist with the Barbados Advocate

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Musings: Novel political realities
11/8/2015

TWO recent events on the local partisan political scene would appear to lend some credence to the view that we are indeed living in a radically different era from that which obtained in the relatively recent past. Premier between these must be the reported appointment of former Barbados Labour Party Prime Minister, Mr. Owen Arthur MP [Ind. โ€“ St. Peter] as the chairman of Council of Economic Advisors to the current governing Democratic Labour Party administration. From one perspective, this engagement that has remained undisputed by either party in the public domain for what is now a substantial period, evidences a political maturity not hitherto seen in the local political culture, but one that is frequently observed in more mature democracies where the incentive to serve the national interest outweighs mere partisan alliance.

Thus, without forsaking their political allegiance to one group, some members of the political class find it possible, once requested, to serve willingly in an administration controlled by their political opponents.

This seems to be par for the course in the US where, from the earliest days of the Union, Presidents have appointed members of a party philosophy antithetical to his to serve in some rather significant posts. Current President Barack Obama, a Democrat, would seem to have outdone his predecessors in office in this context, having appointed no fewer than 17 Republicans to important political posts, ranging from Secretary of Defence (twice), through Chairman of the Federal Reserve, to Secretary of Transportation.

In less recent times, the Republican Robert McNamara served as Secretary of Defence in the Cabinets of John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson, both Democratic presidents. Remarkably, he had as company at one time or another in both Cabinets, his Republican Party colleagues; the Secretary of the Treasury, the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency and the National Security Advisor to the President!

Comparatively speaking, this would have been the local equivalent of appointing Mr. Arthur not merely as Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisors, but rather as either Minister of Home Affairs [National Security] or as Minister of Finance. The unlikelihood of such an event, even given the fact that Mr. Arthur is no longer aligned with the Opposition party in Parliament, might speak volumes about the brand of politics we practice locally. Indeed, there are unsurprising reports that this particular overture has not gone down well with some members of the DLP whom, one would think, would have little or nothing to lose in the entire affair. Ours, however, is a culture that champions rather the constancy of a party supporter truthfully to boast, โ€œI is a BLP/DLP till ah dead.โ€
While the reality across the pond in the UK more closely approximates ours than that in the US, in 1931 when Ramsay McDonald became Prime Minister with the collapse of the Labour Government, his first Cabinet nonetheless included two Labourites as Chancellor of the Exchequer [Minister of Finance] and as Secretary of the then Dominions. To appreciate more keenly the enormity of this locally, try to wrap your minds around Mr. Chris Sinckler being asked to stay on as Finance Minister in an incoming BLP administration.

In light of the present peculiar political affiliation of Mr. Arthur, I would be loath to suggest that the proposed appointment is a happy harbinger of future bi-partisanship, although I am yet to be persuaded that this may not be โ€œa consummation devoutly wished forโ€ by the discerning electorate, given the most recent election results.

What it does seem to suggest more clearly, however, is that in much the same way that a former Prime Minister of Trinidad & Tobago has argued, โ€œpolitics possesses a morality of its ownโ€, it may be that it also bears its own internal logic, a form of reasoning that would permit the governing administration to appoint as a technical economic advisor one whom it has unflatteringly referred to on previous occasions as โ€œyesterdayโ€™s manโ€ and categorised as โ€œpast his sell-by dateโ€. It is equally surprising that Mr. Arthur would deign to offer his skills as an economist to what he once considered โ€œa bunch of wild boysโ€ for them to dictate and enact policy from โ€œa poor-rakey parliamentโ€. Partisan politics is not at all a quick study for many.

The second event is no less ahistorical in the local political culture. I have often argued that the Shakespearean phrase โ€œuneasy lies the head that wears the crownโ€ applies with most force to the post of an Opposition leader. Possessing none of the constitutional allurements that are available to a Prime Minister to reward faithful members or to withhold or even withdraw as punishment from the seemingly mutinous, the Opposition leader must tread a fine line between apparent authority and yet be ever solicitous of the loyalty of his or her members.

It may be that this task of management becomes even more onerous as a general election approaches, especially one in which that party sniffs a popular advantage. It is then that the leader must attempt publicly to maintain that delicate balance in what would have by then become transformed into a litmus test for national leadership.

In this context, what has become known as โ€œthe Agard affairโ€ concerning the public nature of the current impasse among the sitting member of Parliament for the Christ Church West constituency, Dr. Maria Agard, Ms. Mia Mottley, Opposition Leader, and the members of the constituency branch executive, must present a thorny and novel problem for Ms. Mottley at this stage.

I am tempted to comment that its ultimate resolution is none of my business and, perhaps it is not but, as a keen student of the law relating to governance, I am intrigued by this imminent clash of local political convention, of the Constitutional text that recognises not parties but members only who do or do not support that member of the House of Assembly who, in the Governor Generalโ€™s judgement is best able to command the confidence of a majority of members of the House, and of the provisions of the BLP constitution that stipulate, I imagine, a clear procedure for the selection (and possible de-selection as obtains elsewhere) of electoral candidates. I have not seen it.

To the extent that this last-mentioned document does not do so, the party might be forced either to apply some version of the doctrine of necessity to cater for this unforeseen eventuality or to pray in aid some binding convention hallowed by notoriety and long practice. Alas, either solution is likely to prove unsatisfactory to some. As they say, โ€œFilm at eleven.โ€


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103 responses to “The Jeff Cumberbatch Column – Novel Political Realities”


  1. @Caswell Franklyn November 8, 2015 at 7:20 PM #

    Kindly note my statement on Lee Kuan Yew….it was addressed to those who glorify him and Singapore,which I happen to know….that even the “Great”one was not an economist
    ……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….

    “If we want to harp on the success of Singapore,please note that Lee Kuan Yew qualified as a lawyer”

    I do not believe in idols/heroes/saviours,as they all have feet of clay.


  2. The DLP Government have not yet put the people in jail for opposing then, but from 2008 were successful in controlling the minds of the top people, who they needed ,in order to keep the masses of people in submission, that is what we have here


  3. Walter no one is perfect not even OSA He can be credited for having the good fortune of governing an economy which was in the height of financial success , but when one really test the waters after his demise as being PM there were no policies of great significance that he had implemented to rally the economy with an instant turn around for growth in bad economic times
    His desperate calls for privatization as magical solutions for the economy as opposition leader fell short of the “so called ” great economist, Now do not get me wrong i believe his presence as an economic adviser can serves two purpose one as a moral and psychological boost for the people and economy along with a high degree of leverage and credibility which should be influential in determining investor confidence
    But that by no means says that he has the answers for the economy, i however perceive his presence will out weigh whatever negative perceptions investors have of barbados and bring the needed turn around for further growth

  4. `Walter Blackman Avatar
    `Walter Blackman

    de Ingrunt Word November 8, 2015 at 1:34 PM #
    @Mr. Blackman, your 12:46 PM with the โ€˜By โ€œacquiringโ€ Arthurโ€™ refrain sounds like a political stump speech to an untrained ear like mine.

    To a trained ear then it must be a โ€˜rallying cryโ€™ to like minded patriots.”

    de Ingrunt Word,
    You are partly right.
    However, in this episode, I am really wearing the hat of a social statistician.

    Bear in mind, that I have already admitted to you, in a response on another blog, that I deliberately seek ways to elicit reactions from readers that are “naked, raw, and unencumbered” (this phrase is also going to become a refrain).

    The โ€˜By โ€œacquiringโ€ Arthurโ€™ refrain’ was intended to elicit such a reaction. At the back of my mind, I wanted to gauge the ultimate answer to the following question: How do BLP and DLP supporters view this appointment of Arthur?

    The possible answers are:
    1. Positive
    2. Negative
    3. Don’t care

    I graded your answer as “Don’t care”.
    Of course, ac is a predictable “Positive”.

    There are some very interesting political sub-plots going on here.
    Remember how Owen Arthur approached Freundel Stuart in parliament with a note aimed at driving Mia into the arms of the DLP?
    Remember how Owen staged a coup and “huffed” the crown off Mia’s head?
    Remember how many people told Mia to step out of Owen’s way, but not to run away?

    All of that took place in part 1.

    Now let us look at part 2.
    Remember how Mia recaptured the crown?
    Remember how Mia publicly named Owen Arthur and Erskine Griffith to some eminent Group?
    Remember how, from the moment the two names were announced publicly, Owen Arthur did not linger, but fled from the BLP immediately?

    And do you see now, how the same Owen has ended up being “on Mia’s hand” and is now “seeking refuge” in the DLP?

    If you pay close enough attention, you will discern a continuous flow of activity as these “actors” adopt strategies, and counter-moves, in the egocentric political games they play with people’s lives.

    Now let us randomly select any major national problem.
    Show me the continuous flow of activity that you have seen put into motion by the same “actors” to solve the problem you selected.

  5. `Walter Blackman Avatar
    `Walter Blackman

    ac November 8, 2015 at 8:27 PM #
    “Walter…….
    Now do not get me wrong i believe his (Owen Arthur’s) presence as an economic adviser can serves two purpose
    one as a MORAL and psychological boost for the people and economy
    along with a high degree of leverage and credibility which should be influential in determining investor confidence”

    ac,
    I don’t have to accept your belief, but I respect it.

    However, you have bombarded my mind relentlessly with the incontrovertible fact that, as PM, Owen personally cashed a $75,000 cheque from CCB, when he had no legal right to the money. I believed so much in the justification of your assertion, argument, and accusation, that I now find it exceedingly difficult to accept the MORAL boost that Owen Arthur, through you, will now be trying to offer me.

    Good try, though.

    You believe that the people of Barbados now need a psychological boost, and that investor confidence needs to be returned.
    Who psychologically deflated the people?
    Who destroyed investor confidence?
    Who chased away all of those investors who we were told are lining up waiting on approval from government to start projects?

  6. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    AC is shameless…lol

  7. `Walter Blackman Avatar
    `Walter Blackman

    ac November 8, 2015 at 11:34 AM #

    “If only Mia was so astute or wise today like Osa she would be justly rewarded”

    ac,
    I don’t intend to take anything negative you say about Mia too seriously. If PM Freundel Stuart, for whatever reason, were to invite Mia to join the DLP, you would immediately come here and claim that Mia is the purest woman since Queen Victoria.


  8. HA! Ha! you too have been around the political world to understand the term “moral boost and its alignment to a philosophical mindset .Is it a going thing Yes, it is a “formidable” or polite way of accepting with an understanding that imperfections can be neutralized by an individual ability to offer something of worth or value,
    Mr. Blackman please notice i started my previsions comment by stating OSA is not perfect, With that in mind one would be ignorant to imply that his value/s in other areas should be lessened and should be ignored
    There is where the rubber meets the road with hard questions forcing to look at self from within and making unusual but necessary judgement calls.

  9. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Like a truly starved out, morally bankrupt, nimble infested yardfowl that skunk AC will fall in line.


  10. Oh Mia what can any one say did you read barbados today and her reply to Agard ! Payne! and Toppin. what a pitiful response almost two weeks later still struggling to find a solution by looking for a middle ground even after she boldly stated to a large audience that they are mechanisms in place offered her to do diligence now instead showing a demonstration of a weak and battered leader,


  11. Can we get back to debating substantive points instead of these meaningless droppings?


  12. ac November 8, 2015 at 6:22 PM #

    โ€œThe job of the economist is to safe guard the financial welfare of a country against unpredictable financial shocks which can led to a downward slide of its economyโ€ฆ.โ€

    Your perception or understanding relative to the functions of an economist is flawed, since you have tried to confine such functions within a political context or being associated specifically with a prime minister/minister of finance.

    You wrote: โ€œwhen one really test the waters after his demise as being PM there WERE NO POLICIES of great significance that he had implemented to rally the economy with an instant turn around for growth in bad economic timesโ€ฆ.โ€

    Then you subsequently stated: โ€œI however perceive HIS PRESENCE WILL OUT WEIGH WHATEVER NEGATIVE PERCEPTIONS INVESTORS HAVE OF BARBADOS AND BRING THE NEEDED TURN AROUND FOR FURTHER GROWTHโ€ฆโ€

    Hence, your assessment of Arthurโ€™s performance as MoF is non sequitur.

    Let us rationally and logically examine your statements. I am sure many of us are aware that investors, the international rating agencies and financial institutions, as well as analysts from regional financial establishments, monitor Barbadosโ€™ economic performance. For example, First Citizensโ€™ Bank analyst, Yuri Seedial, made some very interesting comments relative to BHL being undervalued on the stock market.

    Bearing this in mind, analysts and representatives of these agencies would have recognized that โ€œno policies of great significanceโ€ came from Arthur that would โ€œrally the economy with an instant turn around for growth in bad economic times.โ€
    Such observations would have been highlighted in the IMF and Standard and Poors reports during the period he was PM. There is no evidence to suggest this occurred.

    Pray tell me how could โ€œhis presence outweigh whatever negative perceptions investors have of Barbados?โ€ How can a man who, according to you, did not implement any policies of great significance, inspire investor confidence?

    As a โ€œspin doctorโ€ you have been called for displaying an illegal action in your bowling.


  13. Who is the leader of the BLP, that question has come to the fore in the political space in recent days. We saw the farce of Cynthia Forde a bona fide minion substituting for the self proclaimed leader . What gives Mia are you ill if you are then say so. You cannot nonchalantly dispatch your BF in place of the leader. Where are the senior parliamentarians. Dale Smiley Marshall, Glyne Clarke, Oblong Head and that crowd. Toppin and Payne are out their actions in word and deed on the Maria Agard time bomb confirms that. Mia as opposed to Froon you declared you are a hard seed press conference politician. In fact you said you held two a day when Glendairy burn down. Its time for at least one.

    Captain the ship is sinking its when the tough to get going. Barbados quietly awaits word from you Mia. You can almost hear a pin drop in the political arena as the population listens out for your bass.


  14. AS i stated my comments or political barbs directed at OSA were legitimate and timely in recognition of the fact that barbados was caught in a juggernaut of high debt some of which occurred under the BLP whether one agrees with that assessment or not,
    However there is also an legitimacy that cannot be undone driven by progress attributed to the Barbados economy under OSA
    A view which is accepted by many in and out of the country and is not going to be easily diminished
    Therefore having great thought and application equally applied one can easily conclude that a perception of such magnitude with a specific goal in mind cannot hurt but is beneficial to a cause .
    As for the political agenda are they there and are there real
    Yes like the boogeyman standing in the dead of night making everybody scared , but his fears are shallow


  15. The Cahill audio tapes (most yet to be released)
    spell an early election for Barbados and an
    early departure for the DLP. What is playing out
    now in the BLP is just the last death wriggle of
    those loyal to OSA as they attempt to make one
    final attempt to re-install OSA before the up and
    coming General Election. The problem for the
    likes of Payne, Toppin and Kerri is that the 2010
    beheading of Mia was a one trick pony.


  16. Yes in indeed it was a jaw dropping moment to see Cynthia Forde placing the wreath,my first thought was” what is wrong with this picture? i though for a second i had fell asleep and miss the high drama but it really was a message being sent by the boss lady to payne and Toppin,
    But listen can anyone believe the threatening letter from Payne to Mia he made Estwick look like a choir boy, Could not believe my eyesight
    Do not think that OSA would have let this problem drag on for an hour father less the week
    That show the confidence OSA had in himself enough that others members in the party would follow and fully endorse his decisions
    But that letter Payne calling Mia disrespectful and rude was to say the least boldface up in your face disrespectul which is telling that Mia have little control of her mebers and is in no great position to lead them to the winning post,

  17. Black Lava Rocks Avatar

    ac
    The next election will be about the DLP, not
    about Mia, Owen, Payne or Toppin. That
    election is sooner than you think. Cahill bro,
    Cahill is the DLP killer.

  18. Caswell Franklyn Avatar

    Black Lava Rock

    Mia’s problem is not Payne, Toppin and Kerrie. Her head is already on the guillotine and her hand is on the lever. In other words, she is her own biggest problem.

    Sent from my iPad

    >


  19. i just love when the blp call for elections ac remember another infamous letter written by DAle Marshall authorizing the PM to call election or else, Needless to say such veiled threats by the BLP was met with thunderous punishing laughter on arrival by PM Stuart LOL sweet fuh days


  20. Caswell
    That maybe so, I am not certain about accuracy
    of your statement. What is certain is Cahill will
    change the way politicians operate in Barbados,
    all starting with initial consequence to the DLP,
    which is an early general election here.


  21. ac November 8, 2015 at 10:43 PM #

    Yes in indeed it was a jaw dropping moment to see Cynthia Forde placing the wreath,my first thought wasโ€ what is wrong with this picture? i though for a second i had fell asleep and miss the high drama but it really was a message being sent by the boss lady to payne and Toppin
    ……………………………………………………………………………………………………
    What a pity that such a solemn occasion had to be hijacked and contaminated by bloody politicians.

  22. Caswell Franklyn Avatar

    Black Lava Rock

    Cahill was a change in the way how politicians have done business in the past. From as far back as I can remember politicians have been taking a little off the top, never this brazen.

    Sent from my iPad

    >


  23. @ David,
    All I am saying is that at some point we have to start a more mature approach to our politics.I am not disputing anything anybody has written for or against the topic. Believe me, I know that this BLP/DLP back and forth is all some of us see our country as. I gave up on them a long time ago.


  24. @William

    We are in a sorry state, many have disengaged from the political process, like you. It is reflected in the increasing numbers who are staying away from the polls. Like most things it will require leadership and a meaty stand from the independents, party faithfuls will not do it. Think about the analogy where mere citizens are asked to preside over the fate of a citizen in the dock, and rule with fairness. We are convinced that once directed by a good Judge they get the job done. Why cant citizens be trusted to engage in the same level of dispassionate decision making?


  25. Not a good idea to stay away fro the pools it gives the advantage to the die hards and yardfowls to affect policy .
    So in fact those who stay away are hurting themselves and help to advance the satus quo political agendas
    Absenting one self from voting is a very poor alternative

  26. Caswell Franklyn Avatar
    Caswell Franklyn

    I can’t believe this; ac just made sense.

    Sent from my iPad

    >


  27. @Caswell

    In theory/principle citizens should hold the right to vote sacred however in the more practical view people will naturally disengage if the perceive the systems establishment is not working for them, this is when leadership is required to bridge the gap. To say people should vote full stop is analogous to saying people should not commit murder therefore forget about prevention measures. It is not so simplistic.


  28. Well in that case the best alternative would be. to generate a concerted interest from amongst the collective individuals who void their vote as protest
    For certainly there will be grass roots support starting with civic meetings or small groups within the community
    Establishing a formula with a “community”based presence is crucial


  29. @ David
    “We are in a sorry state, many have disengaged from the political process, like you. It is reflected in the increasing numbers who are staying away from the polls.”
    I am sorry but you have missed my point. Far from being disengaged, I am more engaged than I perhaps have ever been, it is just tat I don’t engage in non-productive BLP/DLP family squabbles . I will never promote not voting because as ac and Caswell Franklyn have stated , doing so makes the same BLP/DLP get way with political murder. There are many reasons why independent thinkers vote and the human mind is so complex, it is always difficult to identify one common reason or answer. I have been very careful to publicly state that in my humble opinion, both parties have done equally well and equally badly. They are six of one and half dozen of the other. The failure of progressive thinkers to mount a serious challenge to the BLP/DLP, is a reflection of the tremendous entrenchment of these two parties and the unfortunate truth , that many of our most progressive thinkers are already in their collective pockets. However, I am absolutely clear as to why these two parties have such loyal die hards. After all they have controlled the political landscape for well over a half century and the diet has been consistent ! We are what we eat, my friend.


  30. Looking for perfection within the system is an impossibility it is like searching for a needle in a haystack
    Most of the time the problems that govts are criticised for were mandated by the populace
    Hence prior to elections politicians listen to the pundits b
    but on election gets caught up in the reality and understanding of knowing who call the shots
    Take for example the latest stalemate in the blp.The leader made a promise and even with the help of the mechanisms afforded for quick resolve she is hardpressed to make a decision


  31. @William

    The problem should not be located with the political party. It has to be how we hold the party accountable. The current design will continue to see voters doing so to satisfy their civic duty which makes a nonsense of our governance system. This is why intelligent people, even independents continue to exercise their right to withhold the vote as a former of protest. This is a worrying trend across the reason which means it is systemic.


  32. @ David,
    The current discussion re: Arthur becoming a lead advisor to the government is instructive. Jeff Cumberbatch wrote a balanced and enlightened article. It was immediately pounced upon by those who only see the society through BLP/DLP eyes. Hence discussion about an attempt at political maturity quickly degenerated into the usual political platform BLP/DLP rhetoric.


  33. Forgive the errors William, predictive text.


  34. @William

    Doesn’t it say more about those who hold independent and more enlightening positions? Why do we allow our voices to be swamped by the party faithful?


  35. @ Skinner

    @ Skinner

    Sometimes people, by the comments they make, often โ€œspinโ€ a situation to suit their political bias. You must agree that โ€œArthur becoming a lead advisor to the governmentโ€ is a POLITICAL ISSUE and will be dealt with accordingly. This will not be viewed by some people as โ€œan attempt at political maturity,โ€ especially after all that has been said about Arthur by the same individuals who are now trying to โ€œcourtโ€ him. You have to accept this fact.

    In my opinion โ€œpolitical maturityโ€ is the ability of โ€œAโ€ to acknowledge an understanding of how โ€œBโ€ thinks, since โ€œAโ€ was previously been in a similar position. Itโ€™s about two sides not being divided by โ€œmutual mistrustโ€ thereby providing an environment where the entire population could work in unison for the development of the country.

    โ€œPolitical maturityโ€ could have been exhibited after the 2008 elections when Arthur offered to work with the government to address the issues resulting from the effects of the recession.
    โ€œPolitical maturityโ€ could also be exercised during the period when Thompson was sick, or when Mottley suggested the formation of an โ€œeminent groupโ€ (an idea Arthur dismissed) to deal with economic policy.
    โ€œPolitical maturityโ€ is the ability to accept ideas from those are willing to offer, and not dismiss them as โ€œdoom and gloom.โ€
    โ€œPolitical maturityโ€ is the ability to admit when you are wrong rather continuing along the same path hoping for different results.

    You may accuse me as one โ€œwho only see the society through BLP/DLP eyesโ€ and โ€œquickly degenerated (the idea) into the usual political platform BLP/DLP rhetoric.โ€

    However, when I take all the (political and non-political) variables pertaining to this issue into consideration (and we HAVE TO factor then into this equation), it reeks of โ€œpolitical opportunismโ€ to me.

    Additionally, I find it very hypocritical for people to cuss a man, calling it โ€œpolitical strategyโ€ and subsequently wanting to embrace him, citing โ€œpolitical maturity.โ€ Why would you want the help of the man you said was responsible for the โ€œmessโ€ in which you now find yourself, and try HARDER to CONVINCE us that this gesture โ€œis instructive?โ€

    This is a perfect example of โ€œspinning a situation to suit a political agenda.โ€ But, similarly to how a jester plays a fool, politicians always play politics.

    As you wrote, and truthfully so: โ€œAfter all they have controlled the political landscape for well over a half century and the diet has been consistent! We are what we eat, my friend.โ€

    Hence, these political implications provide an adequate platform for the โ€œBLP/DLP rhetoric.โ€


  36. @ Artaxerxes,
    I cannot fault your reasoning. However, I have never taken criticism of the BLP/DLP toward each other seriously because they have no deep philosophical or ideological differences. Hence my position that they have both done equally well and equally badly. You are quite free to recite all the negatives they have directed at each other for the last fifty plus years. If there is a glimmer of hope in reaching mutual and mature governance , I have no choice but to , at least, hope it is the interest of our country. This development may very well change a bit of the “diet” I referred to in a previous post. Furthermore, it could very well be argued that there is a slight possibility that both Arthur and his critics in the DLP have now evolved and are striking a note of mutual respect. I cannot as a patriotic citizen seriously ignored this point of view.


  37. @ David,
    I do not think that independent voices are “swamped” by the party faithful. In attempting to understand the support , we cannot avoid the historical context of the support. This support of DLP goes back to Errol Barrow and the BLP goes back to Sir Grantley Adams. The roots are very deep and have spread thousand of miles. As one who experienced the depth of the BLPDLP first hand, I can tell you that it will take a monumental effort to even shake the roots far less uproot the tree. It is therefore no accident that independent thinkers either join them or simply give up. However there are many citizens who make contributions outside of the political party system in order to compensate. They are still helping in development away from Roebuck and George Streets. BU is a good example of citizen involvement and I salute you and BU for your sterling efforts.


  38. Well i believe there is hope for a political system to emerge to put country .
    It just a matter of time and would happen when the older generation of diehards and political opportunist make their final bow on earths stage
    If after fifty years of iron fist rule in cuba a new transition can start to emerge then it is not far fetched that with a newer generation on the horizon with an idealistic vision. and better ideas a similar transition can not emerge.
    The idea that not voting is an exit strategy for change is foolhardy
    When one listen to the diehards strong opposition to OSA accepting or govt requesting the answer is plain as daylight why society keep going through the political revolving door
    Until these die hards go nothing would change

  39. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ ac November 9, 2015 at 2:03 PM
    โ€œWhen one listen to the diehards strong opposition to OSA accepting or govt requesting the answer is plain as daylight why society keep going through the political revolving door
    Until these die hards go nothing would change.โ€

    I guess these die hards” include yourself. You are just on die-hard hypocrite who is prepared to conveniently jump off any ship sailing on a sea of principles and decency.

    We just cannot understand why you would want OSA to ‘advise’ your administration on matters economic. Yet this same administration continues to give the impression it is doing fine on sustained recovery of the tourism industry thanks solely to its managerial competence.

    Wouldn’t such sterling support of OSA joining the economic advisory team require you to ditch your unswerving antagonism to OSA’s much touted privatization programme including the GAIA?
    Would you be prepared to back the same OSA when he calls (as he must) for the dismissal of the current Governor of the Central Bank or the removal of Quisling Darcy Boyce from that strategic ministerial position vital to the economic recovery of Barbados ร  la OSA the paro economist?

    Like the memory of an elephant we can clearly recall when OSA ousted Ms Mottley for the post of the LOO. We can recall you constant harangues of the then maligned drunkard OSA and his 14 years of misrule, squandermania and corruption. We also clearly recall your unswerving support for the โ€˜victimโ€™ Mottley just because she was a โ€˜bright intelligent articulateโ€™ woman with her heart in the right place fighting in a manโ€™s world of political evil.
    Why donโ€™t you go back bashing OSA and his 14 years of misrule and corruption that forced Barbados to the cliff of economic collapse? At least you sounded more convincing then.

    Now you are asking him to do the final tipping. Is OSA now to be referred to as the Rt. Hon Reverend Arthur as he conducts the final burial rites for the Barbados economy?

  40. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    The problems have always been and will always be rooted in the stench of party politics. 50 years of political independence and the only progress to be shown is an accumulation of yardfowls. I think those who refuse to involve themselves in the voting process have all come to the realization that they are supposed to be voting for people to effectively manage the country to the best of their ability in the best interest of the population…. and not….because they are diehard anything, given a job for some dirty work, a couple hundred dollars, 2 cans of corned beef a bottle of rum, or some fair promise so they can go on the blogs and prove that yardfowls are useless idiots, that is what has been defeating and will continue to defeat the whole purpose.

    Progress can never be achieved under those conditions.

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    Well Well & Consequences

    Did I mention that politicians endorse and condone yardfowlism…..I rose by any other name will still leave a stench.


  42. @ miller go ahead use all kinds of hypothetical conclusions to justify your brand of yardfowlism
    What i am saying and most visionaries are seeing is a brand of intellectual commonsense makinf its way on the horizon inclusive and which requires a unique quality of intellectualism that cannot be measured with a yardfowl measuring stick.
    Going by your critique of what i have said in political “speak” about OSA gives enough reason to conclude that barbados with your type of mentality would remain chained from everlasting to everlasting in political mire
    However the only hope to come would be when you and other old political farts leave this earth
    Exactly what has happened in Cuba presently all the old die hards have gone to the great beyond which made way and gave rebirth to an island once crippled with political animosity and hatred having no room for compromise
    Finally it happened a younger generation of visionaries took up the mantle and cleared the way ringing out the old and ushering in a new day for cuba,
    As for ac i am an eternal optimistic steering clear of pessimistic views for surely they are vexations to the soul

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    millertheanunnaki

    @ ac November 9, 2015 at 6:16 PM

    What the hell have you just said there?
    Can we conclude this is a confession for forgiveness and a plea of contriteness for all the nasty things you used to say about OSA? Are you saying they were all lies and deceit on your part?
    Canโ€™t you see you are committing the same sin with regard to MAM? Isnโ€™t she also deserving of your respect and a cessation of the lies and false innuendo you continue to level at her?

    After all, it is MAM who has been holding out an olive branch regarding the management of the economy for a long time now and was the first elected political official to agree to the setting up of an โ€˜Eminent Personsโ€™ group (with OSA the lead advisor) to save the economy from further slide.

    A proposal that was โ€œpunished with laughterโ€ by those eminent persons of outstanding competence and acumen making up the Cabinet.

    Now what do we have here today but a cabinet of clowns crying out for help from the same subject of their previous derision.

    โ€œHe who laughs last, laughs best.โ€

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    millertheanunnaki

    @ ac November 9, 2015 at 6:16 PM
    โ€œHowever the only hope to come would be when you and other old political farts leave this earthโ€ฆโ€

    Would you call also the person who commissioned the writing of the following commitment to the people of Barbados ‘an old political fart ready to leave this earth’?

    โ€œBarbados is not only about
    what more Government can
    do, but about what we can do
    together. We must all work
    together to move our country
    forward.โ€

    We can guarantee you a place in political heaven if you were to identify the source the above โ€˜patrioticโ€™ call to the people of Barbados including you ac.


  45. @ ac

    Look leh we put to bed all the shiite talk. You were the most harshest and vile critics of Owen Arthur in this BU forum. You followed the DLPโ€™s lead and endorsed the partyโ€™s admonishment of Arthur because it suited your political purpose at the time. You ridiculed Arthurโ€™s โ€œpolitics of inclusionโ€ but now want us to accept the DEMSโ€™ version on โ€œinclusion.โ€

    All of a sudden, just because the DLP is toying with the idea of asking him to be governmentโ€™s economic advisor, you have automatically switched, praising Arthur, all in an effort to suit your partyโ€™s political agenda and because it is political expedient for you to do so. You ridiculed Arthurโ€™s โ€œpolitics of inclusion,โ€ but now want us to accept the DEMSโ€™ version on โ€œinclusion.โ€

    AC, wunnuh ainโ€™t genuine at all, itโ€™s about playing politics, and you are prepared to say anything to satisfy the DLPโ€™s political agenda. I bet if the DEMS were to revert to cussing Arthur again, you would be the first DLP yard-fowl to log on to BU to โ€œre-endorseโ€ those criticisms.

    None ah wunnah ent care nutten โ€˜bout Arthur, itโ€™s all about trying to change the perception the majority of Barbadians now have of the DLP.

    Essentially, you are now implying that all the criticisms you leveled at Arthur were all lies and deceit.

    HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO SHAME.


  46. Artexeres oh no!lol u did not call me hypocrite wuh good grief one of my comments most certainly stated in no uncertain terms ac makes no apologies or offers no retraction to past statements made about OSA
    The only difference coming on my behalf in reference to the economic advisor replacment is that anyone who have any substantive knoweldge or expertise beneficial to barbados ac is willing to givethe benefit of doubt regardless of my past castigation of their shortcomings
    Now what more can anyone ask of a patriot whose only interest is the security of barbados
    Now you tell me artexeres What more? i rest my case


  47. Politics in Babadus is intriguing.

    Pages 10 and 11 in BarbadosToday.

  48. millertheanunnaki Avatar

    @ ac November 9, 2015 at 11:15 PM
    โ€œThe only difference coming on my behalf in reference to the economic advisor replacment is that anyone who have any substantive knoweldge or expertise beneficial to barbados ac is willing to givethe benefit of doubt regardless of my past castigation of their shortcomings..โ€

    Oh no, ac the mother of hypocrisy, are you really that forgiving and inclusively understanding? If so let us put you to the test.

    Why not offer the position to Dr. Clyde Mascoll? Why not stretch out a hardwood branch of forgiveness and like a true prodigal son welcome him back into the foal with open arms despite he might be smelling of porcine faeces of a BLP odour?

    For one, Dr Mascollโ€™s arch enemy and nemesis in the DLP is one of those โ€œpolitical old fartsโ€ who have left this earth and is now part of the eternal ether.
    In addition, the still relatively young and energetic Mascoll has been well schooled under the tutelage of OSA as the former โ€œco-leaderโ€ in the management of the economy.
    Moreover, he Dr. Teets Malik Mascoll, is not a sitting member of Parliament and can freely devote his time as chief economic advisor to the government without the burden of parliamentary responsibilities and conflict of political interests.

    Donโ€™t you think OSA in all fairness and decency should resign from Parliament ( in true Westminster style) were he to accept such a crucially sensitive position? You must remember that OSA- despite sitting as an โ€œIndependentโ€- does not form part of the government and is still seen Constitutionally as part of the Opposition in Parliament.

    He is also a member of the HoA elected by the people of St. Peter under a BLP banner. Therefore, Westminster decency dictates he seeks the prior support of the people whom he pretends to represent in Parliament to back him in such a volte-face move to โ€œadviseโ€ the ruling DLP administration.
    An administration, by the way, that blatantly destroyed his political ambition to become a phoenix of a Prime Minister in 2013 and which buried the spent force once and for all.

    What can a duppy Prime Minister do to save Barbados that he hasnโ€™t done or said? Claire Cowan and her psychic Cindy could possibly do a better job for Stuart and Sinckler.

  49. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    There goes AC having to eat all her nasty words….lol


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