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BU notes the leader of the Opposition has lodged a private members resolution to debate Cahill when Parliament resumes from yet another break. We believe it is in the people’s interest to share whatever […] obligations have been signed away by Ministers Sinckler, Boyce, Lowe and Kellman to Cahill Energy Ltd. Before the matter is debated in the House BU issues a request to the Prime Minister and ministers involved to address the three agreements signed:- 1. Memorandum of Understanding 2. Implementation Agreement and 3. Power Purchase Agreement.

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393 responses to “Clock Ticking for Government to Disclose CAHILL ENERGY Barbados Agreements – More Leaks”

  1. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    Bushie and Baffy,

    These people who are knocking the plan with a ‘this could never work” attack are OBVIOUSLY those who DON’T WANT IT TO WORK BECAUSE THEY ARE BENEFITTING UNFAIRLY FROM THE CURRENT SYSTEM.

    I have no problem with a debate on your proposals. This is necessary for flaws to be exposed and ameliorated. BUT what I am seeing here is an attempt to preserve the current obviously malfunctioning system which benefits the few at the expense of the majority.

    Your opponents here are not interested in any change for the better. They are the MAFIA FOOT SOLDIERS.

  2. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    Watchman,

    Your sole purpose here seems to be to attack Caswell. I had an interaction with him at a critical point in my life and he was very helpful. He told me to come and see him when I recovered and was able. I was dismayed when I learned he was no longer with NUPW which then gave me no representation at all. I fought for myself and won.

    If Caswell has had an experience which has made him a better man then MORE POWER TO HIM! Don’t tell me who he was! Tell me who he IS!

  3. de Ingrunt Word Avatar
    de Ingrunt Word

    @Bush Tea, when you wrote “The problem with ascribing motives and judging other’s REASONS for doing things, is that you tend to expose your OWN thinking…” I thought a hole would appear and whiff you away.

    YOU! Who describe people here are ‘school boys’ and less savory adjectives simply because they show a difference of opinion to your stated view.

    You who continually judge the motives and character bout here can mek that statement. Oh blessed hypocrisy. Looka , I love your humorous palaver but please get off that rickety soap box before you fall and break yah fingers do!!

    Incidentally, who Thompson or Franklyn were at school is really being disingenuously stated by you….for your own reasons I suppose

    Although lots of boys and girls show characteristics at school that change markedly as they grow into adulthood that cannot be said of Thompson.

    Thompson as all here should now was a dyed in the wool political animal for most of his adolescent school days. It is absolutely misleading for you to suggest that he was ‘corrupted’ as he progressed as an adult.

    –Franklyn, I know not enough about…but as I recall he was a cadet with stripes and ting though; so he must have been a little soldier type tyrant even back then.. LOLL. —

    That’s the joy of reading here on BU. People like you can so eloquently dismiss and denigrate others about ‘judging other’s REASONS’ while you obfuscate your own ‘reasons’ with such aplomb.

    For the record, I have stated here previously my abhorrence of DT’s alleged behaviour and I have also said that I previously loved the guy’s intelligence, oratory and steadfastness in his climb to be PM.

    Let’s be honest about these characters and indeed cast behind us half-truths.

  4. BAFBFP Avatar
    BAFBFP

    Vincent what the fck animal farm got to do with it ..?

    All that is being said is that people will have the chance to be represented based on their specific INTERESTS, and not on their Geographical positioning … Jeeeeeesus man.

    People have been voting for “constituency” representation since Adam was a lad and it has NEVER happened as human nature is far too complex to be divided as such. The Colonials divided people along geographic lines and look at the intensity of the “tribal” rivalries that still exist even to this day, particularly in the Middle East and Africa. (A Political Party in Tobago is now seeking to separate those people from the rest of the West Indians in Trinidad … and for the reasons that serve the BUSINESS interests of the Party)

    Some Jackass here on BU said that people vote for the team … Well if this is so, do away with the flipping constituencies … and look to the US Presidential model has always been a joke when it came to the delivering of campaign promises, as lobbyist with finance are the ones that really call the shots

    The Cabinet is like a Board of Directors (as Bushie says) and such Boards are normally populated by people who bring specialized independent perspectives to the table. Of course in a business setting the Board has a solitary policy to satisfy and that is the Bottom Line. For a Country the Cabinet has far more complex issues to be satisfied, the Bottom Line being only one of them – Keeping people employed, educated and Healthy, while improving the environment. The Bottom Line means earning forex … (which is something that local businesses do not normally concern themselves with)

  5. David Avatar
    David

    @Dee Word

    Because Thompson was a political soldier from school days which catapulted him to national “understanding” it does not mean he did not want the best for Barbados as his involvement in the ISCF supported…lol.

  6. Prodigal Son Avatar
    Prodigal Son

    I have no problem with debating change bearing in mind the mess this bunch of DLP morons have created…..but are they realistic? Would we be having this conversation had this DLP performed as was expected?

    We here on BU have been debating this Cahill fiasco, have they even deigned to utter a word to us? They are ruling and dont give a damn what evidence David uncovers and exposes on BU. They have no interest in what we say.

    The DLP has disappointed those who voted for them in 2008 and 2013. You all need to acknowledge that this DLP is the problem not the system. Sure, we can debate the loopholes and urge our elected leaders to implement some changes like:

    ……. the power to recall an MP for whatever sin he has committed like the crooked speaker and the loweman who was exposed by his own family

    ……. make sure MP’s cannot cross the floor without resigning

    …….any MP implicated in scandal like these four rogues will have to step aside and a criminal investigation launched

    ……..the power to make changes to the structure of the public service so that they are more accountable to John Public

    Does anyone know if any government in the world other than dictatorships have ever changed their constitution to effect changes like what are being discussed?

    Under the Westminister system that we practice……….in the UK, these rogue ministers and the speaker would have had to resign ages ago! I mean for crying out loud, a MP in the UK if he had an affair and it is made public, resigns, which is a norm around here!

  7. David Avatar
    David

    @Prodigal Son

    The flaw in your argument is that CAHILL is a symptom of the problem and fodder for the change discussion.

  8. de Ingrunt Word Avatar
    de Ingrunt Word

    @David, you are a being naughty with that ISCF rift. Let’s not speak of the many wolves dressed in Christian clothing.

    But of course I do not know what was in DT’s mind. Back then the lad was bright, sharp, leading-man type handsome and seemed to have the Bajan world at his feet particularly after he decimated that Senator on the CBC civic affairs program ‘Understanding’.

    Look at it this way. Considering that he had to face down that continuous diss that he was the love child of Tom Adams, who at the time was a notorious bad-boy politician, it’s fair to believe that Thompson was as pristine in political thought as the Dalai Lama because he wanted to be the antithesis of what drove Tom.

    So what in the name of good character changed him!

    Thus, the alternative rationale is that nothing changed him….he was always so. Just musing.

    Good one there with the ISCF! But remember also he was a champion debater (sweet tongue of persuasion) and most importantly involved with drama and ACTING.

    The lad definitely pulled off an Oscar worthy performance…stellar show!!!

  9. watchman Avatar
    watchman

    @Donna

    My purpose on BU is to express my views on anything and persons, if it look like attacking so be it ,defend yourself , I am happy you recovered, fought for yourself and won, happier you are strong enough to try to defend Caswell , you ever wonder why Caswell was no longer at NUPW ? don’t ask him, you may be dismayed again, Caswell is not better he is bitter

  10. de Ingrunt Word Avatar
    de Ingrunt Word

    ‘oh lawd David. “understanding’ indeed.

    When another Professor Sandiford (i.e another bright fellow or fella) authors the next book on the history of Waterford and the school therein and chronicles its outstanding former students the title should indeed be ‘Understanding’ as he Thompson was to date the only PM from that location and that show can reasonably be said to have launched his public political career.

    And it has a deep irony that resonates so perfectly. Did we ever truly understand what drove that man ?

    You think Mascoll would provide good info for the book and what about Walter or Caswell???? oh lawd!

  11. David Avatar
    David

    @Dee Word

    Mascoll is a good source.

  12. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    Watchman,

    There you go again proving me right.

  13. mitchlans Avatar
    mitchlans

    So wait! Cahill and Cowan had their nine days of wonder? This is exactly what they knew would happen if they just STFU and wait. It happened with Parris/Thompson and it will no doubt happen with every other damn piece of shite they get up to, and they know it so well.

  14. Walter Blackman Avatar
    Walter Blackman

    de Ingrunt Word October 12, 2015 at 9:58 AM #

    “You think Mascoll would provide good info for the book and what about Walter or Caswell???? oh lawd!”

    de Ingrunt Word,
    Let me give you just a little “taste” of what I would provide.

    I was a member of the Young Democrats when David Thompson was ‘picked’ to represent the DLP in the St. John bye-election of 1987. I had spoken on the platform a few times, and suddenly, David Thompson announced to the whole of Barbados that he had formulated a Development Plan for St. John.

    We all knew that there was no Development Plan for St. John. I, personally, told David Thompson to his face that I don’t “follow multitude to do evil”, and I have no interest in playing political games with the lives of Barbadians. As a form of coup de grace, I told him that I was extremely disappointed to see that he, a young politician, was embarking upon a political career founded on lies and deceit, and that, as a matter of consequence, I will never again go on a political platform to support his candidacy.

    I kept my word.

    If you don’t believe me, you can check with many people – Cranston Browne, Leroy McClean, and Peter Barrow to name a few.

    Go back and read the DLP Manifesto for 2008 that David Thompson would have had a hand in formulating. Do you think the lies and deceit contained therein started at that point?

    As you would say, “stellar show” indeed.

    What has been the price of admission that Barbadians have paid to watch such a show?

  15. watchman Avatar
    watchman

    Even though David Thompson mother work in EWB office , the Dipper had no used for David when he returned as PM in 1986 , why ?

  16. Gabriel Avatar
    Gabriel

    Watchman@11.06am
    I don’t think you have it right.Elucidate

  17. watchman Avatar
    watchman

    The AG is asking for Divine Intervention for his deceitful DLP led government

  18. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    Prodigal,

    We voted out the BLP and Owen for much the same thing for which we are criticizing the DLP government now. This government just appears to be worse. So, yes we would still be having this conversation. It is only more urgent now because of the prevailing global economic climate.

  19. BAFBFP Avatar
    BAFBFP

    David Thompson made a presentation to the Young Dems back in the 80’s (Blackie did overseas), the jest of which was the message that if any of them wanted to change the world or wanted to make a difference the Political Party was not for them … Of course BAF never attended another meeting since

  20. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    Baffy,

    You have GOT to be kidding me!

  21. ac Avatar
    ac

    Good Morning Mr.Bush Tea. for identification purposes I will introduce myself as one of the consortium and proceed to say that you are such an a.as hole
    Makes me wonder if you are a prehistoric dinosaur still roaming this earth
    Have a nice day

  22. BAFBFP Avatar
    BAFBFP

    Donna,

    Yes he did … and it was a pretty long presentation as well. Blackie was head then but was not present. Thompson was clear in his mind from a very early age why he entered Politics and the association with EWB was only a means to an end.

    When he died I told his mother that his older brother Rabi (who ran afoul of the law) was the better of her two sons. He was a genuine character who had the ability to bring a smile to the face of a toad. She surprised me not only because there was agreement, but with the level of animation that went into it

    There is a plan to name a hospital after him … Fck dat

  23. watchman Avatar
    watchman

    OK ,I was present when EWB stated he knew how deceitful David Thompson was to certain Lodge members at first house (now removed )on left side going up Sherbourn St.John, EWB did not regard him worthy of being a senator when he returned in 1986 as PM

  24. David Avatar
    David

    @watchman

    How old would Thompson have been in 85?

  25. watchman Avatar
    watchman

    @ David /Bu
    I don’t know, he become MP in 87

  26. watchman Avatar
    watchman

    @Gabriel
    please see 12.06 posting, if needed can give you a name still living in St. John that can tell you about the man David Thompson

  27. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    Baffy,

    Well, that says it all, doesn’t it! That presentation, I mean. What has happened since showed that he meant what he said.

  28. watchman Avatar
    watchman

    @ Baffap
    you are kind to DT brother , he was a drug head, David like skin out bars

  29. Vincent Haynes Avatar
    Vincent Haynes

    BAFBFP October 12, 2015 at 9:29 AM #

    Vincent what the fck animal farm got to do with it ..?
    …………………………………………………………………………………………….

    Chuckle……a lot Baffy…….Human nature is such that it will not change by using different titles/names as so ably shown in Animal Farm.

    Note,I readily agree that the system is not producing the results it was setup to achieve.
    What we should be doing is exploring the suggestion of Caswell i.e enforcing the Laws that are in existence and or amend/create old/new ones.

    Chuckle….you and Ellis very chummy.

  30. David Avatar
    David

    Looks like this NGO governance proposal will be going on the road Vincent😀

  31. Gabriel Avatar
    Gabriel

    David
    DT born 1961,A Xmas baby if I’m not mistaken,so he would have been 23/24 but sharp as a tack.I saw him as a school boy demolish Senator HL.I think he bury Hutson with some devastating body blows but yes he was lying in ’87 when he held up a blank sheet of paper saying that was the development plan for St John.I did dey.

  32. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    @ David,

    ” the rationale behind the canvassing efforts a little over two years” before the next election is due.

  33. de Ingrunt Word Avatar
    de Ingrunt Word

    @David, and your point re “How old would Thompson have been in 85?”. I think we all know is age rage at that time. Certainly long out of school by then and either at UWI or teaching.

    I am not surprised by Donna’s comment re BAFBAP’s remark. I interpret her comment as a good example of how ALL our charming politicians have blinded us to the evil which permeates their political ambition.

    Which politician in Barbados or regionally since those halcyon days of the 60’s when the region was finding it’s voice and establishing the ground work for the growth and expansion of the Black middle class and the general development of the islands has really come into the fray ‘to make a difference’.

    And here I am not speaking of what they say like David’s glitzy ‘Family First’ campaign but I am talking about what their actions have wrought.

    Not many a fellow, and certainly not the leaders we have had in Barbados!

  34. David Avatar
    David

    @Gabriel

    Want to read a comment from you on the CH CH West blog about what Herbie has been up to in that constituency .

  35. David Avatar
    David

    @Gabriel

    Want to read a comment from you on the CH CH West blog about what Herbie has been up to in that constituency.

    On Monday, 12 October 2015, Barbados Underground < comment-reply@wordpress.com > wrote:

    >

  36. David Avatar
    David

    @Dee Word

    You are too harsh with your comment glitzy, would you describe ‘crime and violence’ in a similar way?

  37. Vincent Haynes Avatar
    Vincent Haynes

    David October 12, 2015 at 1:31 PM #

    Looks like this NGO governance proposal will be going on the road Vincent😀
    ……………………………………………………………………………………………

    David

    We have to be very carefull about getting so annoyed with a system that we simply embrace any half baked idea(s) as was done in 2008.
    As I said before much discussion and testing is required in order to craft a homegrown method of governance for our country.

  38. David Avatar
    David

    @Vincent

    Unless BU is mistaken discussion is what is on the agenda.

  39. de Ingrunt Word Avatar
    de Ingrunt Word

    Alas David, there was a big chasm between David’s all-out media campaign re ‘Family First’ and what was actually needed or done. It was full of all of the oomp and glamour of any major product exposure but based on what I knew and saw in the communities around me there was no substance to really get to the real core of the problems.

    That’s why I called it glitzy. The PR focus was just political grandstanding.

    I suggest to you that if Mr Thompson had taken that PR money, charisma and energy and worked diligently to update the CCB and get support structures reinforced for the at risk families those actions likely could have saved a life like Jahan King’s.

    What difference did that campaign really make for Bajans.

    When he rolled that out at the time I recall laughing to myself uproariously particularly after I read somewhere that the campaign manager was a US political consultant well versed in similar glitzy affairs.

    The word was carefully chosen. As you know from my comments here I would be one of the last people to call DT a charlatan and fraud…unless he deserves it! LOL.

  40. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    @ Dee Ingrunt bowl said…
    “YOU! Who describe people here are ‘school boys’ and less savory adjectives simply because they show a difference of opinion to your stated view.”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    BOSS!! Are you dense? ..or just slow?
    …so by saying that “judging others exposes your own thinking” you were thinking that Bushie was saying that this did NOT apply to the bushman?
    …and for the record, Bushie’s biggest weakness is a STRONG aversion to lukewarm shiite….which you have developed the art of dumping here on BU with almost AC-like consistency…Wuh OBVIOUSLY it also apply to Bushie….. DUH!!

    EVERYONE knows that Bushie is a heartless, whacker-welding scamp……
    It is what the bushman is about….

    Your comment at 9:14 am therefore is just another of your usual lukewarm waste of wordpress space….
    Lotta shiite…

    With respect to David Thompson…. the damn man was FAR more intelligent than most of us here. He WANTED BADLY to become PM ..and he took the ONLY PATH that guaranteed that result in our damned environment…..and he succeeded.
    Look at Walter … who was always a strong second to Thompson… where did his ‘principles’ get him?
    Where is Jeff Cumberbatch with his obvious talents? …Where is Caswell?
    ….so perhaps Thompson CHOSE to be a dishonest political animal precisely because he SO BADLY wanted the prize…

    IT WAS A WRONG CHOICE….. but wunna know what!?….it is the same choice that a CURRENT competent young Bajan will have to make …UNLESS WE CHANGE THE POLITICAL SYSTEM.

    Yuh mean wunna can’t see the need for the KIND of system that will push UP the Walters, Jeff C’s , and Caswells to the top …BASED ON THEIR suitability …… rather than what we currently have ..that REQUIRES them to be Gangsters to get to the top?
    What BBs!!

    @ Vincent
    What alternative do you have to offer … or what have you ever put in place as a system that has the potential to address our political problems?
    …and PLEASE …don’t repeat that shiite about “just enforcing the laws”… it sounds childish and idiotic…
    ..like saying that the best way to become wealthy is to just get some money….

  41. David Avatar
    David

    @Dee Word

    What can you tell us about the Families First Campaign Account? Some refer to it as a slush fund.

  42. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    @ David,

    We need some “YOUTH” on BU. The main contributors appear to be over 50 years old.

    How do we get the young “leaders ” to join us on BU?

  43. David Avatar
    David

    @Hants

    All mediums have a niche.

  44. de Ingrunt Word Avatar
    de Ingrunt Word

    @David, you unfortunately mistake me for an insider with your “What can you tell us about the Families First Campaign Account?…” comment. That is not the case.

    @Bushie, you are a classic…an absolute classic. Incidentally I look forward to more public feedback to your interest group plans based on its being unfurled to the public today is VOB.

    At the serious level it seems implausible to get the proposed change pass the constitutional hurdles. The more practical comments from bloggers have highlighted that to childish ridicule.

    But you are a great champion as you disarm every critique with beautiful, humorous circular sophistry.

    Looking forward to the feedback to the plan.

    I still remain convinced that focusing the energy for change along that path is misplaced and a bad use of the ‘political’ capital needed to move major change to a successful result.

    Oh, the theory that elected officials will manage policy and allow the professional managers to do the operational business is rather interesting as a new concept. I have been misguided in my thinking that in fact that was the exact operational format of civil services in the US, UK and even in Barbados.

    Not saying whether they work perfectly or not but I really thought that was the structure.

    Glad you have identified this as an important new operational metric.

  45. Vincent Haynes Avatar
    Vincent Haynes

    Bush Tea October 12, 2015 at 3:13 PM #

    @ Vincent
    What alternative do you have to offer
    ………………………………………………………

    We have to do what we do best DISCUSS as per David’s suggestion.

    Your Animal Farm concept will depend on how bad the shoe is pinching and the tightness of the belt and will take some time to come to fruition,discussions will carry us no where,only by finding ways&means to implement our laws will the system work.

    Rome was not built in a day the populace need to discover who they are and where they want to go,once this is done,we will move forward.We just have to endure a bumpy ride for the time being.

  46. David Avatar
    David

    @Vincent

    The reality is that the composition of the society see many Indians and a chief or two.

  47. BAFBFP Avatar
    BAFBFP

    Vincent

    Here is a game changer that would help you along the path of righteousness. The Barbados Association of Retired Persons now represents the interests FORTY THOUSAND Barbadians who are prepared to pay some small annual fee to keep the organisation afloat.

    The Bush Tea initiative will afford these 40,000 good citizens the opportunity to have a permanent seat in Cabinet, one that they can decide on who fills it, and for how long of a term, and the maximum number of terms that a single person can fill it, and the conditions that will trigger a process of recall.

    Can you not grasp how radically different but appropriate this is …? Hants you getting this up dey in Canada …

    As for David Thompson, the Dipper chose another David to fill the Senate seat … one that came close to blowing away a female incumbent for the City in a general election, but has since moved on to form his own Political Party.

  48. St George's Dragon Avatar
    St George’s Dragon

    And how would the single representative of the BARP choose to represent its 40,000 members on an issue such as spending cuts. No doubt they split pretty much along current party lines in their views. The oracle will give us the answer.

  49. de Ingrunt Word Avatar
    de Ingrunt Word

    @Walter, based on your exposes so far on BU seems to me that you could be that new ‘Professor Sandiford’ author to write any new book.

    That taste was a good one. What a salacious tidbit. The way how one blogger reacted is a good indication of the ‘wha loss, yah lie’ consternation that would abound.

    You are the consummate PR man wid dat teaser.

    And no reason to doubt you.

    Politicians do and say strange things. Ambitious politicians do and say very strange things. Machiavellian style politicians will do and say absolutely outrageous (to normal thinking people) things.

    DT, MAM, OSA are all Machiavellian style politicians.

  50. BAFBFP Avatar
    BAFBFP

    Dragon

    What Party lines … there will be no more parties.. NONE … What the hell is wrong with you people ..? Representation is not available to anyone of you right now, with the parties that you continue to harp on. If the BARP Minister is not advised by his committee how to address spending cuts he simply would have nothing to say…

    Wuann ppl just stupid or you just out to give trouble … Stupse

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