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As discussion continues about the massive search for missing woman Karen Harris last weekend, a watchman at Buttals Plantation in St. George is reporting he was harassed by three members of the search partyBarbados Today

This case is unprecedented in the annals of search and rescue in Barbados!

It is obvious that in such a case one will find the George Zimmermans who think that Blacks are there for a blood sport where they have the dogs and, like during Dr. Martin Luther King Jr’s campaigns, they could loose them at people whenever they want. If my memory serves me correctly, we are in the twenty-first Century – and not the seventeenth, eighteenth or nineteenth. Yet we have three Caucasian males treating Mr. Sam as if we were still in one of the latter three, and he was a runaway slave whose Human Rights they could contravene with impunity.

It does not fall under their purview to interrogate anyone in this country. They were part of one of the biggest manhunts in Barbadian history which was searching for a missing Caucasian female. Perhaps the three really thought that they were part of a massa day hunt when they found Mr. Sam, a watchman, carrying out his nightly duties at Buttals Plantation, and wanted to take him back to the one he had run away from.

This smacks of racism, and must be vehemently rejected.

This episode will put Barbados and its population in the limelight for all of the wrong reasons, and this Government – and especially the Minister of Tourism, Richard Sealy, should start doing some damage control by denouncing what went on at Buttals in the strongest terms if not Barbados will find itself on the list of countries which condone Human Rights violations, and as fast as tourism has picked up, it will plummet.

I would like to hear ASP Welch’s views on this manhunt by those three vigilantes who violated Mr. Sam’s rights as laid down in the Constitution of Barbados which give those who reside here – or even visit us – the right to go about their business without let or hindrance – unless they are known to the police. Does anyone know what the consequences of this unprovoked and dastardly attack on this man who was only carrying out his duties – alone – at that plantation will be?

What nightmares could he have?

He says that he will continue working there, but who knows what will happen with him later on.

Who will pay the doctors if he has to go for therapy?

Most importantly though is: Will these three slave hunters be brought to justice?

Mr. Sam’s Human Rights were violated in several ways:

  1. He was hunted down with a vehicle
  2. He was interrogated by the three Caucasians
  3. He was coerced into giving up his boss’ phone number
  4. There was mental abuse also.

I am of the opinion that if Mr. Sam had not stopped running they would have run him over, and the RBPF would have another case on its hands. I hope that the search for them will be just as elaborate and extensive, and they will be soon found!


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354 responses to “Vigilantes Caucasian Style”


  1. @ Dee Word, “It’s the growing number of mixed race families that will eventually break that barrier completely in little Bim.”

    It will take 100 years for that to happen given that over 80% of Bajans are Black like the PM.

    Barbados will continue to be racially divided forever.

    The introduction of a few white Canadians and Englishmen into the gene pools will not affect the racial divide between White Bajans and Black Bajans.


  2. @sundyal man at 8:54 PM…at secondary school in Bim in the 80s and 90s I was always mystified that the Caucasoid children always sat together at all breaks and the locale became known as South Africa—————-

    The question (s) I would ask ….

    Were those 1st formers to 5th/6th?
    Were those sportsmen and the non-sports-types?

    Although race would have been the bonding factor initially and through lower school, unless they developed abiding after school friendships I would hope that those of the white boys who played cricket or football or were in cadets (if any where) would have also started to hang out with their other team-mates etc.

    @Gabriel March 6, 2015 at 9:38 PM #

    Do you honestly feel that this current ‘millennial generation’ with pants under their backsides, faces in a phone every moment to record some nonsensical event; glued to whatever Kim is doing with or to her booty are really in any type of yes sir, no sir modus of operation?

    The plantation/massa mentality of which you speak has been broken a long time now in my view.

    “This current lot of older Bajans” have for all practical purposes long passed.

    The teens and others a bit older have no semblance of that ‘yes please, no please”.

    Which by the way some people actually refer to as manners. Courtesy does not mean one is subservient.

    I hear your rant but can’t agree that’s what is holding back the society.

    I am batting pass 50 and none of the my age 35 down to 19 years nieces and nephews display any modicum of subservience to a white massa. All educated or getting it and doing their thing.

    The older folks who championed that are on the Nations obit pages, at QEH, Bayview or Seniors Home. That dog is long dead.

  3. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ MoneyBrain March 6, 2015 at 8:43 PM
    “…In terms of more recent times as a parent in TO my kids were permitted to invite who they wanted from school to Bday parties etc. There were always Black kids invited as well as East Indian and Chinese. Just a couple weeks back my son had a dark Sri Lankan staying over at our home. I did marry out of my race.”

    Good for you MB. Glad to see you are so willing to embrace the rainbow of people that make up this little orb no bigger than a grain of sand in the galaxy called the Milky Way or the Sacred Mother Cow.

    But next time just refer to their cultural origins and drop the “dark” before Sri Lankan. And instead of the “Black kids” just say Afro-Canadian kids.

    BTW, what colour is an “East Indian” or a “Chinese”?
    I have seen some “East Indians” much “darker” than a Sri Lankan or even a West African or even a West Indian.
    There is nothing black under the Sun other than white.
    What colour is your money, MB, if you are in the black?


  4. @ Hants 10:30 PM…It will take 100 years for that to happen given that over 80% of Bajans are Black like the PM.”

    Surely many are but the point of note is not the PM himself but his family circle.

    To the point MB made that 25 years ago his family gathering were Lilly white. Today they are not.

    I am simply surmising – and you may therefore be very accurate re the 100 years – but many black families were the same as MB’s was 25 years ago.

    I also believe that changes are made there too.

    So the PM may have some extended family at his next BBQ that look quite unlike him…who knows.

    Never said it would happen overnight but I believe it will be ONE of the contributing factors to the eventual breaking of our race barriers: family members are all different races.

    Prejudice is never a simple issue to resolve.


  5. @Miller

    You should know there are very light Indians/ Sri Lankans that are easily mistaken as white and so dark explains that it was not a near white.

    Where $$$$ are concerned it is much better in the black than red that is for sure. lol

    Strange how black can mean negative and positive.


  6. Hants March 6, 2015 at 10:30 PM #

    @ Dee Word, “It’s the growing number of mixed race families that will eventually break that barrier completely in little Bim.”

    It will take 100 years for that to happen given that over 80% of Bajans are Black like the PM.

    Barbados will continue to be racially divided forever.

    The introduction of a few white Canadians and Englishmen into the gene pools will not affect the racial divide between White Bajans and Black Bajans.
    …………………………………………………………………………………………………………
    And in the year 2115 when this exercise is completed successfully, How much time then will we give the Asian community to follow suit.

  7. Keeping it real Avatar
    Keeping it real

    @sundyal man March 6, 2015 at 8:54 PM #
    at secondary school in Bim in the 80s and 90s I was always mystified that the Caucasoid children always sat together at all breaks and the locale became known as South Africa

    This hasn’t changed on the school compound or in the wider society. Anyone positing that Caucasians have dropped racism is a liar plain and simple and more than likely a racist. Where does this integration and mixing take place that some would want us believe. Bizzy Williams an arrogant spokesman for the business elites himself said he sees the racism more starkly now he’s married to a black woman. Apartheid Boers from SA would be at home among their counterpart whites in BIM. The hunt for the missing white woman reminded all and sundry that racism is alive and well. Why deny the obvious.


  8. @MoneyBrain March 6, 2015 at 8:43 PM “I did marry out of my race….One of the minor reasons I migrated was because no matter how many black friends I had, if society ever became restless I knew I would stick out as a target.”

    But if Canadian society becomes restless won’t your dark skinned children stick out as targets?


  9. DeeWord March 6, 2015 at 10:11 PM “And your description of how your mum and family attended a black doctor yet your mum was concerned that the black neighbor’s kids, of a principal no less, were still not good enough to interact with you may lend some credence to his assertion.”

    Plain and simple moneybrain’s mother was afraid of getting black or dark skinned grandchildren…and yet she got exactly what she feared most.


  10. @MoneyBrain March 6, 2015 at 8:43 PM “Naturally, my mother was well aware that one of her brothers, father and Uncles had been very active with darker ladies”

    And yet moneybrain’s mother very likely had/has black nieces and nephews, sisters and brothers, and cousins…because nobody can fool me that all of those pre-pill copulations were infertile ones.

  11. caribcanadian Avatar

    Simple Simon March 7, 2015 at 12:52 AM #

    DeeWord March 6, 2015 at 10:11 PM “And your description of how your mum and family attended a black doctor yet your mum was concerned that the black neighbor’s kids, of a principal no less, were still not good enough to interact with you may lend some credence to his assertion.”

    Plain and simple moneybrain’s mother was afraid of getting black or dark skinned grandchildren…and yet she got exactly what she feared most.

    +++++

    If I am not mistaken, MB did not marry a black person. I believe the wife is asian….So…it’s not as much of a big deal for some racists.

  12. caribcanadian Avatar

    Simple Simon March 7, 2015 at 12:52 AM #

    DeeWord March 6, 2015 at 10:11 PM “And your description of how your mum and family attended a black doctor yet your mum was concerned that the black neighbor’s kids, of a principal no less, were still not good enough to interact with you may lend some credence to his assertion.”

    Plain and simple moneybrain’s mother was afraid of getting black or dark skinned grandchildren…and yet she got exactly what she feared most.

    ++++

    Of course that was her fear…but really what’s the problem? These people don’t acknowledge the black side. They don’t support their black children financial or in any way, usually.

    I mean…just the way he wrote about his male family members who did enjoy, probably coerced and/or raped these women, could be men too. They did not worry about the impact of such behavior on their victim or willing participant. Come on now… this behavior by these white men is historical…It’s probably a right of passage for these people…to rape Black women…That is what we believe happened to my paternal great grand mother. These animals, rapists an have been wreaking havoc, terrorizing black communities for centuries and can still, today, as we’ve seen, feel they owe nothing to Black people. They’ve committed crimes against humanity yet…..no big deal. the victims should never feel a way, according to these…IO

    What a laugh…clueless people.

    And by the way Money Brain..you can tell your community in Barbados, who have been living in fear since THEY instituted the slave system, that it is very unlikely that the big scary black man will attack them. If we did not come for you at the so-called end of slavery then not likely to happen 160 years odd years later. These people are a joke.

  13. caribcanadian Avatar

    Forgive the typos….

  14. NO-BLACK-MAN-HARMED Avatar
    NO-BLACK-MAN-HARMED

    This is really a hot-button racially charged issue.
    Whites need to take careful stock and realize that the black Barbadian public at large now have no desire to help them, no desire to be part of their schemes, and no love for them!
    It is a condition which they bred and germinated by their deeds and actions.
    That said, the actions which have contributed to the 211 posts currently related to this issue should serve to warn those who continue to perpetrate lies and fraud, that the time is coming when there will be no posts of consequence to read, but the streets will be filled…
    The actions taken including but not limited to the inclusion of a drone in the search, the mass deployment of police and the ARMY, as well as the incident on the plantation grounds makes this all sound like it was in response to a kidnapping. So whats the real truth here?
    Do white folk here think that they can pull the stunts pulled in the US against blacks in recent times and it will be hushed up and accepted?
    Think again! And think carefully! You are outnumbered, out witted and out gunned if it comes to that! And that is based here on pure statistics.
    Whatever you guys are involved in, whom ever you owe and what ever your source of income is, better pay up and leave the tax-paying services, to which I am willing to bet you don’t pay your fair share, alone.
    Rolling up on a plantation property, whose ownership you probably already know, and asking a watchman who he “works for” with rope in your hand and probably a gun in your waist, says clearly that you aren’t involved in something above the table.
    So take stock, and take it twice.
    Kill a black person on these fair 166sq mile shores to cover your evil and dastardly deeds, and the 5 gates of hell will let loose like they never have in this land before!


  15. @ MoneyBrain
    I see you seem to be taking an extensive amount of heat here.
    Not being one to help stoke the fire un-necessarily, I wish to reference a portion of your first submission, and follow up that with a question if I may.

    In your submission and I quote; “What % of Bajans are white? One second U are saying that they are looking out for one another, they have money, blah blah—– Would it not occur that there is alot of pressure NOT to bring one’s family into disrepute in such a small community?” My follow-up question would be: Why would one’s family be potentially brought into disrepute in a case of a woman who was dis-oriented and wandered away from her home?

    If this lady suffered or suffers from any neuro-degenerative disorder or any other disease that can affect cognitive functionality, why would it be a condition that attracts dis-repute to the family?
    I can offer lots of speculation on this, but I would like to hear your explanation to that earlier comment because based on the sheer response seen, the technology employed and the efforts mounted to not only find, but contain this story, coupled to your comment regarding disrepute, there is apparently whole lot more here than is being said.


  16. “No, I am not worried about tourists, other than right now they are the main source or revenue/foreign-exchange in this country. ”

    And therein lies another problem, this total dependency on tourism, the lack of brain activity from the leaders and those in authority to find other revenues of capital, the lack of brain activity of the leaders and those in authority to allow the majority to control large businesses, don’t tell me people have not tried but they have to fight off the politicians who take bribes from the likes of cave shepherd and indian/syrian owned business people to make absolutely sure the majority remain consumers or forever during their life time, small business people and not major players.

    The leaders and politicians continue to take bribes to keep the dependency of the black majority on the local white minorities intact.

    Instead of looking toward upward mobility in business for their people, the brain dead leaders and those in authority take bribes from the likes of Bizzy, Cow, Jada et al to keep the majority from controlling large business ventures in Barbados…..that came straight out of the mouth of Bizzy, why else would bizzy et all bribe politicians….why else is bizzy not in prison for admitting he bribes Bajans politicians.

    Whatever race issues are happening in Barbados, those problems can be laid right at the feet of successive black politicians/leaders in Barbados for allowing it to happen, progress, flourish and continue unchecked and unabated….

    People only do to you what you allow them to do and for as long as you allow it.

    Fix that and most of the problems will go away including the racism that despite my dude Moneybrain claiming that these local whites were once slaves, somehow they have forgotten and see themselves as slave masters and practice the racism in Barbados, of course I know it’s tied to greed and money, but I will continue to say, it’s all the fault of the mentally weak black leaders, why proclaim yourself a leader if you cannot stop certain practices that are detrimental not only to your own people but also to everyone else on the island, in the long run.

    You do not allow racism to flourish for tourist dollars, you do not allow racism to flourish for a few dirty dollars from the business people..

    Who don’t like what i said, too bad, how sad.


  17. Moneybrain honey, you are taking a beating, but I know you have really thick white skin, you will survive……lol

  18. caribcanadian Avatar

    NO-BLACK-MAN-HARMED March 7, 2015 at 9:25 AM #

    This is really a hot-button racially charged issue.
    Whites need to take careful stock and realize that the black Barbadian public at large now have no desire to help them, no desire to be part of their schemes, and no love for them!
    It is a condition which they bred and germinated by their deeds and actions.
    That said, the actions which have contributed to the 211 posts currently related to this issue should serve to warn those who continue to perpetrate lies and fraud, that the time is coming when there will be no posts of consequence to read, but the streets will be filled…
    The actions taken including but not limited to the inclusion of a drone in the search, the mass deployment of police and the ARMY, as well as the incident on the plantation grounds makes this all sound like it was in response to a kidnapping. So whats the real truth here?
    Do white folk here think that they can pull the stunts pulled in the US against blacks in recent times and it will be hushed up and accepted?
    Think again! And think carefully! You are outnumbered, out witted and out gunned if it comes to that! And that is based here on pure statistics.
    Whatever you guys are involved in, whom ever you owe and what ever your source of income is, better pay up and leave the tax-paying services, to which I am willing to bet you don’t pay your fair share, alone.
    Rolling up on a plantation property, whose ownership you probably already know, and asking a watchman who he “works for” with rope in your hand and probably a gun in your waist, says clearly that you aren’t involved in something above the table.
    So take stock, and take it twice.
    Kill a black person on these fair 166sq mile shores to cover your evil and dastardly deeds, and the 5 gates of hell will let loose like they never have in this land before!

    ++++

    I hear what you are saying.

    However, I don’t think violence is the answer. We have centuries of our own experience to show that it is counter productive to a peaceful society. Which I think all rational people want, peace.

    In my opinion, they need to acknowledge the disparities, the institutional racism, and work to dismantle it. We’ve been dying, literally…..there was another shooting of a black person in USA (Madison, I believe..don’t know details….,in our effort to be treated equally. Isn’t it enough now?

  19. NO-BLACK-MAN-HARMED Avatar
    NO-BLACK-MAN-HARMED

    And I hear you and respect your position as well, but I once heard something said that when decomposed systematically, and logically processed, seems to have credence and strength. That is that white people understand two things well, ” Money and Violence” Take away there money and whip their backsides mercilessly and they get the picture with clarity.
    For centuries, negotiation hasn’t worked, pleading for fairness and equality hasn’t and being a puppet wont work, so the last stand, is to mount a firm stand and make a point out of that stand!
    Whites by nature seem to be greedy, selfish, arrogant, obnixious, dishonest, and plain useless in the grand scheme of things. They believe based on what we can see exhibited by them, that all is for them and only them.
    Churches and religions advocate prayer, but prayer without works is dead.
    They are going to do something to touch off a war, and when that time comes, I wont be one pleading for calm or peace.
    Nature abhors a vacuum or imbalance. at that time, nature will have to take its course to usher in the balance needed so get the space right.

  20. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ NO-BLACK-MAN-HARMED March 7, 2015 at 9:25 AM
    “Kill a black person on these fair 166sq mile shores to cover your evil and dastardly deeds, and the 5 gates of hell will let loose like they never have in this land before!”

    So why would Bajan whites want to kill a black person to open the 5 gates of hell when they can always call on the watchman Ronald Jones to crack some black skulls and shoot a few golliwogs like himself.

    Whom do you think Jones was referring to? Bajan whites that did similar things to his ancestors with impunity or to his own kith and kin of ‘negroid’ stock?
    Black people killing Bajan whites in Barbados would certainly open not the 5 but 9 gates of heaven to trumpet and signal from Cotton Tower the return of their god to wreak vengeance on that cursed black lot that dare hurt or kill his blessed children in His “fair” land.

    “In plenty and in time of need
    When this fair land was young
    Our brave forefathers sowed the seed
    From which our pride is sprung
    A pride that makes no wanton boast
    Of what it has withstood
    That binds our hearts from coast to coast
    The pride of nationhood.

    We loyal sons and daughters all
    Do hereby make it known
    These fields and hills beyond recall
    Are now our very own
    We write our names on history’s page
    With expectations great
    Strict guardians of our heritage
    Firm craftsmen of our fate .

    The Lord has been the people’s guide
    For past three hundred years
    With him still on the people’s side
    We have no doubts or fears
    Upward and onward we shall go
    Inspired, exulting, free
    And greater will our nation grow
    In strength and unity.”


  21. The leaders and politicians continue to take bribes to keep the dependency of the black majority on the local white minorities intact.

    Instead of looking toward upward mobility in business for their people, the brain dead leaders and those in authority take bribes from the likes of Bizzy, Cow, Jada et al to keep the majority from controlling large business ventures in Barbados…..that came straight out of the mouth of Bizzy, why else would bizzy et all bribe politicians….why else is bizzy not in prison for admitting he bribes Bajans politicians.

    Whatever race issues are happening in Barbados, those problems can be laid right at the feet of successive black politicians/leaders in Barbados for allowing it to happen, progress, flourish and continue unchecked and unabated….

    People only do to you what you allow them to do and for as long as you allow it.

    Fix that and most of the problems will go away including the racism that despite my dude Moneybrain claiming that these local whites were once slaves, somehow they have forgotten and see themselves as slave masters and practice the racism in Barbados, of course I know it’s tied to greed and money, but I will continue to say, it’s all the fault of the mentally weak black leaders, why proclaim yourself a leader if you cannot stop certain practices that are detrimental not only to your own people but also to everyone else on the island, in the long run.

    +++++

    This is not about bashing MoneyBrain. If we want to get feelings out to resolve issues, one has to face realities. As you see, in the comments on this topic, it has not, and never will, just go away if you try to bury it. You can’t change what you don’t acknowledge. I’ ll keep saying it over and over and over.

    Your comments about bribes to political leaders who, in your opinion are the real problem, are naive, IMHO. In all countries, all over this big blue marble, those who control the power, the monied, rule. All political parties work to the agenda of the monied, the powerful. We could elect you….and you would HAVE TO work to the agenda of the monied. That is how it works…..it’s not new. People don’t spend enough time looking at history. nothing is new under the sun. Politicians control nothing. Once you finally see that truth..you can then move accordingly. We won’t be able to dismantle that system either, if we don’t see it.


  22. Simple Simon March 7, 2015 at 12:47 AM #

    But if Canadian society becomes restless won’t your dark skinned children stick out as targets? END

    My wife is Oriental and so my children do not stick out that much, besides being quite large like their father.. If the effluence hits the fan in Canada it will most likely be caused by Jihadist browns and those crazys are equal opportunity murderers, including other Muslims. All Bajans here would be in the same low probability boat.

    In Bim if Rioting etc breaks out there is a MUCH HIGHER probability that I would be a large target. However, I have always contended that unrest in Bim was a low probability event.


  23. NO-BLACK-MAN-HARMED March 7, 2015 at 10:08 AM #

    Whites by nature seem to be greedy, selfish, arrogant, obnixious, dishonest, and plain useless in the grand scheme of things. They believe based on what we can see exhibited by them, that all is for them and only them.

    ++++

    That is not a true statement. Not all white people are as you describe. I can vouch for that.

    If we want to resolve matters, we should not generalize with any group of people. Don’t you hate when people characterize Black people as all being criminals, because that is what they see portrayed in the media? I do. Because I know the majority of Black people are not the stereotyped lazy, unemployed, baddy daddy, thug, criminal that is purposely portrayed by the power that be who control the media, politicians…etc


  24. DeeWord March 6, 2015 at 10:11 PM #

    That is to say: Bajan whites really have no issue to associate with blacks when absolutely necessary (eg. med care) but just don’t want to frolic and play with those black folk.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++

    “Whites” have been frolicking with “Blacks” in Barbados from the year dot!!

    I am one of the hundreds of thousands of results!!

    I have one ancestor who was a slave.

    Between 1804 and the early 1820’s she had 10 children from her former owner 8 after he had set her free.

    She became a slave owner and her returns are in the 1817 slave returns online.

    When her lover died in 1839 his will gives her and her 10 children two plantations, one of 310 acres the other known as Brittons.

    But the clearest examples I found going through the burials was of a female white centenarian who the Reverend describes as the great grand mother and mother of a race of mulattoes!!

    I’ll see if I can find it and put up the link … it is worth the read!!


  25. MoneyBrain March 7, 2015 at 10:27 AM #

    If the effluence hits the fan in Canada it will most likely be caused by Jihadist browns and those crazys are equal opportunity murderers, including other Muslims. All Bajans here would be in the same low probability boat.

    In Bim if Rioting etc breaks out there is a MUCH HIGHER probability that I would be a large target. However, I have always contended that unrest in Bim was a low probability event.

    ++++++

    Off topic….

    Yup…for sure…the Jihadist browns are coming. It’s not like Harper, and his ilk(USA, Isreal), have not been stocking that fire, eh? Once again..look at the broader agendas people!!!!!!!!

  26. St George's Dragon Avatar
    St George’s Dragon

    So how many people are going to The Belle at 8.00 am Sunday to join the search for Sidneato Holford? [Saturday Sun p5].


  27. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-22582-36057-84?cc=1923399&wc=MMYB-D6Y:n42851367

    Here it is

    Her name was Ann Shepherd, and her burial record of Jan 3rd 1804 indicates she was 100, so she was born in 1704.

    Between probably 1720 and 1760 she bore her children.

    She herself is not described as a Negro or Mulatto which means she was “white”.

    Do the figuring as to how she became the matriarch of a numerous race of mulattoes…!!


  28. @St.Georges Dragon

    Probably not many and you know why.

    On Saturday, 7 March 2015, Barbados Underground wrote:

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  29. John March 7, 2015 at 10:33 AM #

    DeeWord March 6, 2015 at 10:11 PM #

    That is to say: Bajan whites really have no issue to associate with blacks when absolutely necessary (eg. med care) but just don’t want to frolic and play with those black folk.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++

    “Whites” have been frolicking with “Blacks” in Barbados from the year dot!!

    I am one of the hundreds of thousands of results!!

    I have one ancestor who was a slave.

    Between 1804 and the early 1820’s she had 10 children from her former owner 8 after he had set her free.

    She became a slave owner and her returns are in the 1817 slave returns online.

    When her lover died in 1839 his will gives her and her 10 children two plantations, one of 310 acres the other known as Brittons.

    But the clearest examples I found going through the burials was of a female white centenarian who the Reverend describes as the great grand mother and mother of a race of mulattoes!!

    I’ll see if I can find it and put up the link … it is worth the read!!

    ++++

    All Black people today, who come from slavery where ever on this big blue marble. have white ancestry. It’s a given. The system of oppressor and oppressed will produce that kind of result. Not to say that there weren’t consensual relationships as well. Ancestry is not always apparent.

    Same as you, I come from both.


  30. @Caribcnd, Simple et al

    Why must you always talk about raping of darker women? My uncle above could not get a divorce so he openly lived with his brown sugar, she never wore shackles or was not tied in the house so cut the nonsense this was in the last 80 yrs not 1722.

    Now you peeps see why Whites dont want to come pun here and chat openly because wunna want to corrupt the honest, straightforward conversation. Luckily I CANT lose since I have already WON BIG!

    Carib likes to CORRUPT things he knows ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about. All kinds of DUMBASS suppositions about Rape, which truly exhibits, just as he did with his ignorant lack of honest interpretation of the Inter-racial Murder Stats in the USA. Talk sense Carib or I will continue to slice and dice you for all intelligent ones to see. (de DUMMIES are beyond help)

    While I am sure there are Whites that dont support there darker offspring, it is far from all encompassing. As John has shown there were many Black and Brown Slave OWNERS. How did that happen then? When they inherited such did they immediately FREE the peeps? NOT on your life! We all have to understand the context of that Time period.

    Carib you are the JOKE! My father and uncles had to live through 1937. Most Dummies refuse to learn from history or understand context, I DO.

    EXPERIENCE is a great teacher, BUT learning from the experience of OTHERS is the cleverest way to learn.

    It is TOTALLY IGNORANT to believe that a person with my background OWES ANYBODY ANYTHING. Are you saying that if your great, great grandfather was a Murderer and Rapist YOU SHOULD BE IN PRISON TOO??????????????? CLOWN!


  31. David March 7, 2015 at 10:49 AM #

    @St.Georges Dragon

    Probably not many and you know why.

    On Saturday, 7 March 2015, Barbados Underground wrote:

    >

    ++++

    I don’t know why…do tell


  32. St George’s Dragon March 7, 2015 at 10:47 AM #

    So how many people are going to The Belle at 8.00 am Sunday to join the search for Sidneato Holford? [Saturday Sun p5].
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Not me … de rain falling

    I see his mother believes he is dead.

    Sad.

    If they do find remains he may be able to be identified by his clothes.

    But unless the GOB has got funds from somewhere he will never be identified from remains beyond a certain age unless someone like ex RCMP steps in to assist GOB and makes sure his remains are properly identified.

    We did find fabric with the remains but not much.

    Sad state in Barbados.

    Did I tell you, ex RCMP would be classified as “white” in Barbados!!!!!


  33. John March 7, 2015 at 10:48 AM #

    But the clearest examples I found going through the burials was of a female white centenarian who the Reverend describes as the great grand mother and mother of a race of mulattoes!!

    +++=

    mulatto is not a race. There is but one race. HUMAN RACE.


  34. @NO Black—

    Loads of talk–there was NO BLACKMAN HARMED so—–

    Has anyone bothered to establish whether these 3 whiteys really had a rope and why?????? When last did we have the KKK in Bim? When was the last lynching???
    DRAMATISED NONSENSE until proper research is conducted. SAM was scared and so decided to sensationalise this situation.

    Now if it can be proven that Sam’s account is indeed true then charge the offenders!


  35. @The Watcher

    My follow-up question would be: Why would one’s family be potentially brought into disrepute in a case of a woman who was dis-oriented and wandered away from her home?END

    You have probably inadvertently connected this to the case, there is no connection.


  36. MoneyBrain March 7, 2015 at 10:54 AM #

    @Caribcnd, Simple et al

    Why must you always talk about raping of darker women? My uncle above could not get a divorce so he openly lived with his brown sugar, she never wore shackles or was not tied in the house so cut the nonsense this was in the last 80 yrs not 1722.

    Now you peeps see why Whites dont want to come pun here and chat openly because wunna want to corrupt the honest, straightforward conversation. Luckily I CANT lose since I have already WON BIG!

    Carib likes to CORRUPT things he knows ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about. All kinds of DUMBASS suppositions about Rape, which truly exhibits, just as he did with his ignorant lack of honest interpretation of the Inter-racial Murder Stats in the USA. Talk sense Carib or I will continue to slice and dice you for all intelligent ones to see. (de DUMMIES are beyond help)

    While I am sure there are Whites that dont support there darker offspring, it is far from all encompassing. As John has shown there were many Black and Brown Slave OWNERS. How did that happen then? When they inherited such did they immediately FREE the peeps? NOT on your life! We all have to understand the context of that Time period.

    Carib you are the JOKE! My father and uncles had to live through 1937. Most Dummies refuse to learn from history or understand context, I DO.

    EXPERIENCE is a great teacher, BUT learning from the experience of OTHERS is the cleverest way to learn.

    It is TOTALLY IGNORANT to believe that a person with my background OWES ANYBODY ANYTHING. Are you saying that if your great, great grandfather was a Murderer and Rapist YOU SHOULD BE IN PRISON TOO??????????????? CLOWN!

    ++++

    MoneyBrain….you are a reall ass doh!!!!!!!

    I am a woman, by the way.

    Real happy for you that WON BIG..whatever that means..yip, yip hurray!!!!

    I did not distort any data. The data proved you wrong about your contention that blacks kill whites in more numbers than whites killed whites. Not my problem you did not believe, not my data, but FBI’s.

    White Bajan men did ‘interfere’, as my father puts it, with black Bajan women. Look it up, if you are ignorant of the facts.

    Whether you accept it or not, your people, have perpetrated crimes against humanity. The results of which people are harassed and killed to this day. The institutional discrimination has been getting people killed for centuries. If you want to deny that…your prerogative. Won’t change the situation though.

    I do believe the First Nations people have a similar gripe against your people. Oh…yeah….I forgot….y’all not responsible for that either….ummmmm huh!

    We all should know by now that there were Black people who owned slaves. Happened where ever free people live in that type social stucture. It was the thing to do. You seem to be saying…that fact cancels or discounts anything done by the white planter community. Not so. All are responsible.

    So your uncle’s situation speaks for every situation now? Who knew.

    My white great grandfather was one of the men who had both black and white families….he had his lovely views, I am being sarcastic as there was nothing lovey about it, on the black side. I come from his first white wife’s offspring. One of his white daughters was my grandmother. So…..don’t try to tell me I don’t know. I have first hand knowledge.


  37. @WW
    Where ya bin, din see pun hey donkey’s ears.
    You know very well that I will respond to any BS with very well aimed lashes, backing down is not in my nature.

    You wrote

    Whatever race issues are happening in Barbados, those problems can be laid right at the feet of successive black politicians/leaders in Barbados for allowing it to happen, progress, flourish and continue unchecked and unabated….

    People only do to you what you allow them to do and for as long as you allow it.

    Fix that and most of the problems will go away including the racism that despite my dude Moneybrain claiming that these local whites were once slaves, somehow they have forgotten and see themselves as slave masters and practice the racism in Barbados, of course I know it’s tied to greed and money, but I will continue to say, it’s all the fault of the mentally weak black leaders, why proclaim yourself a leader if you cannot stop certain practices that are detrimental not only to your own people but also to everyone else on the island, in the long run. END

    Most will always blame Whitey for “evating”, it is convenient—they dont remember that when dey pointing at whitey there are 3 FINGERS pointing back at themselves. (I am NOT saying Whitey is blameless)

    My contention has always been that Africans enslaved Whites too. Indeed, they raided villages as far north as Iceland raping and pillaging. Historical facts are a bitch nuh.

    They love the concept that Hannibal was a Brilliant Black General invading Italy and nearly succeeded BUT they neglect the obvious that had he was ATTACKING whitey.
    It ALL comes down to HUMAN NATURE and in recent times Whitey just happened to WIN. Just like the Orientals are rising fast now, again, as they were way ahead
    600yrs ago in terms of printing, gunpowder, navigation etc.


  38. @ The Watcher and WW

    Heat is not a problem, I just endured the COLDEST Feb on record here in TO. NOT one day above 0 celsius and averaging well into double digits below. Heat is good for DEFROSTING! lol


  39. @Caribcnd

    I voting for U to be Ambassador to ISIS!
    Why not go tell them how sympathetic you are and you are going to solve the problems.

    I have never stated that Whiteys are all innocent, correct, etc. BUT I can assure you and everyone that ALL HUMANS are much the same. That is why the Pols in Bim DONT GIVE a RODENTS RECTUM for the Bajan in the street.


  40. It is TOTALLY IGNORANT to believe that a person with my background OWES ANYBODY ANYTHING. Are you saying that if your great, great grandfather was a Murderer and Rapist YOU SHOULD BE IN PRISON TOO??????????????? CLOWN!

    +++=

    I don’t believe I said anywhere that you should be imprisoned..You really need to hone your comprehension skills.

    I said….you need to acknowledge the institutional racism, discrimination and work to dismantle it. When it’s dismantled there will be nothing to complain about. We can ALL live peacefully.

    Ohhh….and about the comments being the reason white people don’t come on and chat..you guys are cowardly and weak then. You are frightened for words. I believe today is the anniversary of the walk on Selma….people died…trying to change this corrupt system…and you all are afraid to ANONYMOUSLY type characters on a machine and discuss current problems.


  41. caribcanadian March 7, 2015 at 11:01 AM #

    mulatto is not a race. There is but one race. HUMAN RACE.

    ++++++++++++++++++++

    What about White and Black?

    Why pick on mulattoes?

    Tell you what, see if you can convince some of the bloggers who want to go back in time to right the wrongs of past slave owners to please tell the good Reverend when they are passing thru 1804 that he is incorrect in what he wrote and he ought to know better.

    Chances are he was a slave owner too so they will have to deal with him anyway …. kill two birds with one stone!!


  42. John March 7, 2015 at 10:57 AM #

    St George’s Dragon March 7, 2015 at 10:47 AM #

    So how many people are going to The Belle at 8.00 am Sunday to join the search for Sidneato Holford? [Saturday Sun p5].
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Not me … de rain falling

    ++++

    The rain is a reason to not be out helping!!!!!!!!!!


  43. MoneyBrain March 7, 2015 at 11:28 AM #

    @ The Watcher and WW

    Heat is not a problem, I just endured the COLDEST Feb on record here in TO. NOT one day above 0 celsius and averaging well into double digits below. Heat is good for DEFROSTING! lol
    +++++++++++++++++++++

    A friend of mine up in those parts told me his furnace broke down night before. Outside was 26 below!!

    Ended up using a gas heater but inside temp dropped to 11 Centigrade.

    He has to wait till Tuesday to get the furnace repaired!!

    Send some of the heat his way.


  44. MoneyBrain March 7, 2015 at 11:34 AM #

    @Caribcnd

    I voting for U to be Ambassador to ISIS!
    Why not go tell them how sympathetic you are and you are going to solve the problems.

    ++++

    I am not in the running, sorry. Just because you are ignorant of the wider agenda does not diminish anything I said.

    ………

    I have never stated that Whiteys are all innocent, correct, etc. BUT I can assure you and everyone that ALL HUMANS are much the same. That is why the Pols in Bim DONT GIVE a RODENTS RECTUM for the Bajan in the street.

    +++

    Correct.


  45. John March 7, 2015 at 11:38 AM #

    caribcanadian March 7, 2015 at 11:01 AM #

    mulatto is not a race. There is but one race. HUMAN RACE.

    ++++++++++++++++++++

    What about White and Black?

    Why pick on mulattoes?

    Tell you what, see if you can convince some of the bloggers who want to go back in time to right the wrongs of past slave owners to please tell the good Reverend when they are passing thru 1804 that he is incorrect in what he wrote and he ought to know better.

    Chances are he was a slave owner too so they will have to deal with him anyway …. kill two birds with one stone!!

    ++++

    That was the terminology at the time. The idea that black people were a separate 3/5 man breeds the categories. It fits the historical context.

    We know, today, that world is not flat. So too, today, we SHOULD all know that there is but the HUMAN RACE. We may be of differing types yet we are all human.


  46. NO-BLACK-MAN-HARMED March 7, 2015 at 9:25 AM #

    This is really a hot-button racially charged issue.
    Whites need to take careful stock and realize that the black Barbadian public at large now have no desire to help them, no desire to be part of their schemes, and no love for them!
    ……………………………………………………………………
    You think so? Check out who is jumping up and down the most on the Garrison today. They don’t call it the Gold Cup for nothing. Just like the Americans during the construction of the Panama Canal…….Gold, Silver and Bronze.


  47. @Caribcnd Woman

    Let’s clarify for you that Afro Americans murder TWICE as many Whites as vice versa BUT since there are 75 % less Afro Ams then the rate of Black Inter-racial murder is approx 8 Times what it would be should.

    Are you that thick, NO! You have no intention of admitting the reality because it does NOT fit your agenda.

    The bottomline is that peeps pun here want badly to conclude that all White people are so horrible when there are COUNTLESS examples of how terrible Black people can be to jog your memory with a very short list:

    1 pols in Bim not caring
    2 inter -racial murders in the USA
    3 RWANDA
    4 CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC
    5 Idi Amin UGANDA
    6 Mugabe STARVING Zimbabweans with stupid lack of food strategy in “Africa’s bread basket country”
    7 Users like Sharpton et al

    HUMANS are dastardly,s: wicked, evil, heinous, villainous, diabolical, fiendish, barbarous, cruel, rotten, vile, monstrous, abominable, despicable, degenerate, sordid; More

    Whitey has merely been better organised in recent centuries.

    There is NO PERFECT PERSON or RACE, that is my point and I cant be wrong in this respect as the evidence is obvious.


  48. Police are seeking the public’s assistance in locating a missing man. He is Carlton Blackman, 42, of Lodge Road, Christ Church.

    He left his home about 7.30 a.m. on Friday February 27, 2015 and has not been seen since.

    At the time he was wearing a purple short sleeve shirt, a khaki three-quarter pants, a pair of slippers and a ‘Northface’ haversack. He frequents the area of the King George the 5th Memorial Park, St Philip.

    Blackman, a Guyanese national, is about 6’ in height, slim build and has a dark complexion. He has a low haircut and a moustache.

    Anyone with information on his whereabouts is asked to contact the emergency number 211, or the nearest police station.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Second for the year …. anyone know if he was found? I see he is a Guyanese National.

    Anyone looking?

    So lets do some simple math.

    Two missing in three months … by the end of the year 8 will be missing.

    In 2000 35 were missing ……… so if the rate is 8 or less per year then there are over 100 persons missing in Barbados.

    Last month I heard thru the Hikers’ grapevine another set of skeletal remains was found ……. would seem to confirm the logic.

    Is there a serial killer about?

    Why are we wasting time with white and black?


  49. John March 7, 2015 at 11:43 AM #

    MoneyBrain March 7, 2015 at 11:28 AM #

    @ The Watcher and WW

    Heat is not a problem, I just endured the COLDEST Feb on record here in TO. NOT one day above 0 celsius and averaging well into double digits below. Heat is good for DEFROSTING! lol
    +++++++++++++++++++++

    A friend of mine up in those parts told me his furnace broke down night before. Outside was 26 below!!

    Ended up using a gas heater but inside temp dropped to 11 Centigrade.

    He has to wait till Tuesday to get the furnace repaired!!

    Send some of the heat his way.

    ++++

    There are companies that provide emergency 24hr repair services. Having no heat in these temperatures is crazy. I am in Montreal.

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