Chris Sinckler, Minister of Finance (l) David Estwick, Minister of Agriculture (r)
It has come as no surprise to independent observers that the Barbados government has to labour to govern as a result of its 2-seat margin. Prime Minister Stuart finds himself in a position where making decisions is heavily influenced by the political considerations. Now that the E11 faction has been effectively quelled and its whip – Minister of Finance Chris Sinckler – had to publicly throw himself at the mercy of the Prime Minister in the Big Interview with the Nation newspaper, an interview which will stain his legacy and perhaps has ended his political ambition to be Prime Minister of Barbados.
AND Perennial discontent Minister David Estwick made known his recent dissatisfaction in January that he will speak out on economic issues (words to this effect). Two weeks later he was reluctantly given an audience with the Prime Minister and cabinet to present a proposal of a lifeline deal sponsored by the United Arab Emirates (UAE). To be expected there was loud clamour in the public space about the workability of Estwick’s UAE deal. It has been three weeks since Estwick presented to the Cabinet of Barbados and it has been three weeks the public, including local media, has gone silent. Yet again the politicians have been able to ‘’manipulate’ the voice of the people by remaining silent. And off we go to the next topic the planned construction at Lower Greys.
BU recalls the promise by late Prime Minister David Thompson to usher in a level of transparency never seen in Barbados. The people on the 2007 general election campaign trail were lured by the promise of his party enacting transparency legislation as a priority if elected. Stuart led the party to a second win in 2013 despite not being able to proclaim transparency laws in the first term when he assume leadership after Thompson died in Office. One is left to ask Barbadians what happened? Are we happy not holding our governments accountable?
When the Estwick’s UAE proposal was leaked BU eagerly looked forward to serious debate from all quarters of civil society. There was intense debate for 7-days and now there is silence once more. Where is the pride of place which Barbados has enjoyed under Barrow and Adams? We have to listen to Prime Ministers of St. Vincent, Antigua, Dominica, St. Kitts and Barbadians wait to hear the voice of OUR Prime Minister.
Barbadians have been asked to play their part in the interest of supporting the national economy. Depending on who is listened to 3,000 to 6,000 public sector have made the ultimate sacrifice, no doubt the same in the private sector. While the a repeat of 1991 is happening we have a government who remains committed to a combative mode instead of calming and inspiring the populace by their words and actions. Whether the government likes it or not a similar number of Barbadians voted for the BLP in the last general election and this should should guide its communication with the public to build consensus.
If only out of respect for Barbadians the Prime Minister owes it to Barbadians to pronounce on the Estwick UAE proposal. As usual we the people wait on those sworn to serve them.
David
The priority of this Government is holding on to power in order to qualify for their pensions. Those elected in 2003 will have to wait until 2015 to qualify for two-thirds of their salary as a pension; and those who were elected in 2008 would have to wait until 2016 to qualify for half of their salaries. This is what is guiding everything that the Government does.
Steupsss
Man Caswell ….Enuff of that pension tune now….
ALL politicians cling on to power as long as possible.
Pension shiite… Wuh at the rate they are going where the pensions will come from?
If you were wise you would realize that they are hanging on to power in the hope that more mega million dollar deals can be executed…. Like the Sandals thing and the various “feasibility” studies…
Shiite man, what you think Sealy floating bout the Air Bridge idiocy ($20M) for…? ..to mek heself look foolish?
…somebody GOT to do a ‘study’ and write reports…. Even if it turns out that (like we ALL already know) that idea is total shiite, …a couple million done slip by….
What pension what?!?
What YOU need to tell us is when you, BAFFY and David going to be ready with BUP….
If you and Baffy can’t get along, have a duel – and the winner can work with David….. Bushie TIRED with the lotta shiite now…. 🙂
Caswell, this is not the time to spit in the soup. We all want to eat!
Meanwhile, 800 teachers set be retrenched via multiple credible sources and they are bidding time to fat pockets with no ability to lead this country out of this mess. Education Policies failing children and country. The majority of those going to be retrenched will most likely be young teachers. Youth unemployment already a major regional issue in every country except Barbados…obviously. So all of the knowledge will retire with the aging teaching service, stupse. Clearly all these overbloated ministries being advised by ning nongs and the fox lying in wait the IMF. Dr. Estwick you are a disappointment. Do you know if you stand for nothing you will fall for ANYTHING? There is no honour in standing for a pension while the dominoes are toppling around you. Bajans are too domicile. Bees and Dees need to go. No accountability and silence bequeaths consent to what we are allowing.
@David
“The silence of the Dems”
Did you ever hear that silence is golden? Why comment and lend credibility to something that you don’t have any faith in? Estwick’s proposal is gathering dust in the F & F (file & forget) folder.
On to other news have you been paying attention to the latest target of terrorists? None other than our friends in the land of Mao. First there was the slaughter of about 30 people by Uyghurs from Xinjiang Province who are Muslims and call the area (East Turkistan) and now a 777 has gone missing and it appears that some people were on the flight with bogus documents.
So far those in the know have been circumspect with their comments but yuh know if it looks like a duck etc.
@L Harper March 9, 2014 at 12:29 AM “Caswell, this is not the time to spit in the soup. We all want to eat!”
What soup?
De pot turn down.
No matter where you look , its all about MONEY,looking for money, getting money, hiding money, crooking money, taking money, giving money ,
and how much of that same Money they get to keep for self,
CROOKS, LIARS , SCUMBAGS, They want for self and We as a People have to pay it back when every they get RUN out of Office,,,AND still they will be paid by us for they ROB us blind.
All the money we need is already in Barbados in the accounts on the BANK from being over charged, The Bill is still running up.
More Land Fraud to come ,
BREAKING NEWS
Cabinet at its meeting on 6th March 2014 approved without reservation , the US $ 5 billion UAE loan.
As PM Stuart said on CBC tv (1st March 2014 ) last Saturday night ” it would be a foolish PM and a foolish government , not to look at all options on the table , including Dr. Estwick’s plan “.
The first drawdown of this loan will commence on 1st April, 2014.
All the recently retrenched workers will be reinstated – just like the 2 Shop Stewards – Trottie was able to get back on the production line at the Transport Board !!!!
The reinstatement of workers will commence on 1st May, 2014 ( Labour Day ).
A symbolic reinstatement ceremony is slated for Baystreet on that day…..where Trottie will be publicly commended by the government for keeping Mia Mottley and her opposition BLP at bay ( no pun intended ) by not taking the workers on the streets to protest….while the UAE money arrived in Barbados.
That is what you call an ENHANCED SEPARATION PACKAGE….for those who were thinking otherwise !!!!!
David of BU is extremely thrilled by this good news ….. though saddened that he was not the first to break this news to Barabadians !
So too are the keepers of the FATTED CALF ……Prodigirl and Miller….included !
Hoorray, Hoorray, Hoorray to Dr. Estwick….at last the FATTED CALF has a new lease on life !!!!!
@ Fractured BLP
Does this mean that Estwick who is Minister of Agriculture, having effectivly secured $$ to assist in the running of Bulbados will, due to his obvious expertise and financial acument that outshines that of Buffalo Sinckliar, will now be appointed Minister of Finance?
At least Estwick would have shown that he knows how to broker a deal, find money and of course know the difference about decimal points!!
Oh and does it mean that since the money has been secured from the UAE that we dont hail each other wid “what up B” or “whu going on skippa” but not must say “Assalaam Alaikam?”
@ pieceuhderockyeahright
From what I understand, Dr. Estwick only wanted to find the best alternative to the crisis Barbados found itself in , and not necessarily being Minister of Finance.
Remember he publicly declared his support for Chris Sinckler as Minster of Finanace.
Very interesting commentary here.
@Fractured
Look forward to cricketer Ryan Hinds being made High Commissioner to UAE, you will save some money in deployment expenses.
@Michael Paine
Don’t even start.
It all about the Money , Now make the bills out and let us see who gets what? More Money , More Money MORE MONEY,, Even more Bills to come Its All about the Money,
Will the MOF get fatter ?
CROOKS WITH MORE MONEY ,
Fractured BLP wrote “The first draw down of this loan will commence on 1st April, 2014.
also known as “all fools day.”
Your “Breaking News” should have been released on April !st.
@Fractured BLP | March 9, 2014 at 6:49 AM |
“From what I understand, Dr. Estwick only wanted to find the best alternative to the crisis Barbados found itself in , and not necessarily being Minister of Finance.”
So you have finally conceded the obvious reality to many on BU that Barbados is indeed in a crisis.
The question to you, though, s who put you there. Is the fractured BLP who have been blaming since Adam was a lad or is it the easily placebo international recession?
What about the homegrown variety the same Estwick identified as being the cause célèbre fatted calf policies and unnecessary (but vote buying) welfare programmes of your administration?
How therefore can the person who is responsible for exacerbating the crisis ever be expected to lead you out of it?
How else can Estwick plan be executed unless he is the man in the seat responsible for matters of finance and economics?
The only alternative is for you guys to put Fumble as a figure head MoF with Estwick as Minister of State in the same Ministry pulling the strings while getting rid of the fat cat called Physical Deficit Ince and the quisling drone called Boyce.
Stinkliar can easily go back to Foreign Affairs to be the entertaining buffoon of the talk shops and the obese clown of the cocktail circuit while Maxine replaces the ravenous Suckoo since the fumbling impotent joker is unable to satisfy both.
There is a rumour going around that the PM will reshuffle the Cabinet. Possibly before the Estimates debate. This would appear to tie in somewhat with Miller’s take above.
By the way, for what little its worth, I agree with Caswell’s post above, with the addendum that incompetence along with inept leadership can be added to the reasons for the apparent impasse with Dr Estwick.
what nonsense …….what proposal…………bubbados not fuh sale……….dr.estwick ….plans or ideas just another
“pig in the bag” gimmick…………..already the attention received have told eventual outcome ,,,,,,,,just hype and distraction,,
@ millertheanunnaki | March 9, 2014 at 9:26 AM |
“The question to you, though, s who put you there. Is the fractured BLP who have been blaming since Adam was a lad or is it the easily placebo international recession”
That paragraph should read:-
“The question to you, though, is who or what put you there.
Is it the fractured BLP whom have you have been blaming since Adam was a lad or is it the well-patented and easily-ingested by the masses soothing placebo called international recession?”
@ Fractured BLP:
BTW, both your crew and the pro Estwick plan faction have only two weeks before Caswell’s understanding becomes the only understanding of the present confusion between the Stinkliar torpedo and the Estwick dowry.
We (including BFPBAF)are willing to bet 5 billion in dirham Estwick will back the Stinkliar plan just to prove how “prognosticatingly” accurate you, Fractured, can be.
The Estimates debate and passing of the Appropriation Bill for the fiscal year starting April 01, 2014 must take place during the week starting 23rd March unless you guys plan to create an environment to crack some already dented heads and shoot (fire at) some additional 2,000 people including those from the NCC and Transport Board.
The issue here is also one of respect by the government for the people. The cabinet gave audience to Estwick and he should update or inform the people what is the decision of government.
@ THe Annunaki
You said and i quote “How else can Estwick plan be executed unless he is the man in the seat responsible for matters of finance and economics?”
In continuing you also made oblique reference to the Biblical verse Matthew 9:17 “Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved.”
I one gives those three dimwiths Sinckliar, Ince and Boyce that money to apply to revitalization programming, in one year we will be back with the UAE.
If inspiration was the size of the Titanic, the three of them together would not be able to detect it even if it was being forced up their posteriors.
Dumb, dumber and most dumb (said while stuttering prolifically)
Now, how will that 5 billion be repaid?
Well , Well ,@ were we 4 Billion in the basement and they went for 5 Billion? , Dont sound to balance to Me.
What can COW and the Ministers do with and Extra 1 Billion in debt?
Maybe they will not pay off the 4 Billion and and take the 5 Billion and then we will be in a bigger mess at 9 Billion in the core of the Earth?
1 Billion in VOTE Buying. MIA will never see office .
More lies to come, lets hope they learned their lesson .
KEEP YOUR HANDS OUT OF MY POCKETS
This proposal cannot be dispensed of by a YEA or NAY policy…..this govt is signed on to treaties and agremments with the USAthat have built in restraints and restrictions when dealing with other international govts……all parties involved must be privy and guided by proper prtocal and diplomacy….and not by political yardfowlism.. Bu need to stir the pot is not a solution.
@ac
You don’t need to comment on everything. And the issue raised in this blog is the right of the people to know. It is called transparency and it is what this government promided to deliver on.
Plantation…………Let’s hope they know that Arab Muslims (fomerly the Moors) are into Sharia Laws.
Fractured BLP | March 9, 2014 at 6:03 AM |
“BREAKING NEWS
Cabinet at its meeting on 6th March 2014 approved without reservation , the US $ 5 billion UAE loan.”
Where is the proof that this is true and not an April fools joke?
@Hants
It is a DLP JA trying to distract. Ignore.
On Sunday, 9 March 2014, Barbados Underground wrote:
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http://padittjobb.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/thomas-sankara-and-the-burkinabe-revolution-1983-87.doc
Well Well | March 9, 2014 at 1:11 PM | @ Well we all know who is in office and who sign and vote for the loan can loose their Hands and a few might , be off with their heads , WANTED POSTERS LIKE OLD BIN.
We are sure if it reach that stage the People will go hunting ,
the people has a right to know…….but only when factual,,,,,,,,not because some blog or other yardfowl decides the TIME……however you have no right or prerogative to curb my freedom of speech in any way order! shape! fashion or design, BUY LAW i have such freedom…….and can dispense of it as i freely choose……..the govt also have a right to protect its citizen from fly buy night con artist and govts presenting themselves like wolves in sheep clothing ,,,,, when will we learn
@ac
Your yardfowl inclination has long taken root. You right, it is up to Stuart to decide when to communicate to Barbadians espcially about promises made about enacting transparency legislation.
what is transparent here is your twisted and illogical view that rules and diplomacy should be bent under misguided perceptions such as yours and others who believes that unless the pm answer any and every call he is clueless,,,,,,the pm is head of govt ,,,,,but he also have to adhere to rules and guidelines of governance in reassurance to country and public of him not being a dictator,, hetherefore has a cabinet with whom he meets and iron out details or proposals affecting the country .meaning until himself and all cabinet members are in agreement he is hampered or stymied in his response ( quick or slow) in matters of a high sensitive nature,,,,it is not at all times our country should show up or act as a banana republic
What is twisted ac is the fact this government promised to implement transparency legislation and it has NOT, it promised it would NOT send home people, it promised it would NOT charge for tertiary education. A yardfowl who patrol BU night and day will never want to hold your party accountable.
Fractured BLP | March 9, 2014 at 6:03 AM |
“BREAKING NEWS
Cabinet at its meeting on 6th March 2014 approved without reservation , the US $ 5 billion UAE loan.”…………………………………..
I am surprised that so many of us are falling for the lies that spew from this joker’s keyboard.
This inept incompetent bunch of jokers we have for a government just feel that they won and that they are accountable to no one. They have power for five years and we can moan and groan all we want, they do not have to tell us anything nor does the fumbler think he is obligated to speak to us.
So what can we do? The unions are in bed with the government. The BLP tried to highlight the issues and sensitize the people by rubbing shoulders and people’ assemblies but the people dont want to hear, they are afraid for their heads to be cracked or to get shoot. We can only wait then for the whole place to implode and then and only then will Bajans wake up when all that they had is of little value!
david david hitting below the belt is not good strategy coming from you it characterizes one modus operandi,,,and places one in the same category as those whom you criticized one you should avoid at all cost…….so what does transparency having to do with a policy that could not stand the rigors of a harsh economy…..or would you and other yardfowls prefer that the govt stay the course ,,,,,,i do not understand your ( again) twisted logic highlighting the fact that govt had to change course to save a country from financial ruination as lack of transparency coming from govt,,,,,,,,,,,,
Let us examine the stress the Estwick UAE issue has put the country through at a time when it calls for all hands on deck. It took two weeks for Stuart and Cabinet to rein in Estwick. BU took note that VoB quoted sources in the Cabinet during the saga very forceful in anti Estwick comment. Is it not obvious the Estwick affair and the always on combative approach to managing communication has done nothing to promote confidence in Barbados?
David | March 9, 2014 at 4:00 PM
Let us examine the stress the Estwick UAE issue has put the country through at a time when it calls for all hands on deck. It took two weeks for Stuart and Cabinet to rein in Estwick. BU took note that VoB quoted sources in the Cabinet during the saga very forceful in anti Estwick comment. Is it not obvious the Estwick affair and the always on combative approach to managing communication has done nothing to promote confidence in Barbados?
…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………what stress david are u talking about,,,,,,,,as far as i know the policies put in place by govt to handle the economic crisis are still on course……..maybe a few stragglers and those holding outs complaining ,,,,,,,, but as for suggesting that the estwick uae proposal have put the country in stress is balderdash and political poppycock,,,,,,,again all bent far out of proportion and should be sent to the peanut gallery for laughter,,,,,,,,,,,,, what is obvious is this ongoing” make believe” controversial strategy concocted by deceit ……rooted by political yardfowlism propaganda indulging willfully and intentionally hell bent on making govt policy….. which this govt refuses to partake,,,,,,
@Ac
Please read with understanding. It is the stress to the country of havinv to manage the Estwick issue which creates a perception of confusion. The comment is not about the actual proposal which the president of the BEC is on record recommending public discussion.
David | March 9, 2014 at 4:47 PM
@Ac
Please read with understanding. It is the stress to the country of havinv to manage the Estwick issue which creates a perception of confusion. The comment is not about the actual proposal which the president of the BEC is on record recommending public discussion
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listen david i am not trying to be difficult but the rational seems a bit disingenuous and farfetched from my vantage point i believe that the public would resist the temptation one way or another of engaging in a fist fight over what estwick did after all he is a cabinet minister and entitled to his views ..not at all do i see any evidence of stress but only one of a political perception,…….,case and point ……..the country seems to have eased away from the uea subject as your article suggest and now have arrived at a level of restraint one which borders on a level of maturity and breeds or ensues confidence coming from its citizenry, .most bajans are die hard politicians and not going to bend too far east or west until their are comfortable and know what they are fighting for, the estwick debacle is such case so at this point the stress levels one can say is tolerable in such a regard ……no need to hoot and holler,,,,,
@AC, do you know the definition of political yardfowl?
http://youtu.be/jH-o4Fh5zEA
I agree with Dr Denis Lowe a
http://youtu.be/oFw0vCQXej0
Dishonesty of Barbadian political actors
http://youtu.be/a5QEwY0OHTM
Incompetent Musketeers who were power hungry. Do not watch if you have eaten as you may throw up. Seriously.
Small Farmer | March 9, 2014 at 5:15 PM
@AC, do you know the definition of political yardfowl?
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YES One who believes that their propaganda must be endorsed and entertained by all,,,,,,,,,
EXHIBIT A a small farmer …..trying to score political points,,at the expense of others
Here it is the government has had to veer from its medium term fiscal strategy, accept technical assistance from the IMF when the GoCB and Frank Alleyne aessured the country many times the IMF was not an option, then we have to borrow the Credit Suisse loan at a rediculous rate…
And ac tells us we need to gibe the government’s policies time to work.
DAVID Stop it u are smarter than that……….ac not going to fall into that political trap……i am surprised that u would use that yard stick to measure the govt policies as failures or even success,,,,,, given the volatile and overheated economic climate ……….however i hope that you would be mindful of the fact that if the now revised policies worked you would be equally adamant and sincere in giving govt credit for rebuilding an economy which was heading for disaster,,,,,
@ac
Which policies? You mean sending home workers? The economy will reboud if private sector show confidence in government’s handling of the economy. However bitching with the private sector will not do it.
@ David (BU)/Guys and Gals
What do you make of Bernie Weatherhead’s desire to continue with the Almond brand and forget about Sandals?
@Bajan in NY
It does not make sense if he knows government is committed to the Beaches project OR maybe there is something in the works the public is not privy BUT he is in the loop.
David,
This comment above by ac should be enough to tell you that you should cease from engaging her. She is as dense as they come and politically stupid and deceitful……………..”the now revised policies worked you would be equally adamant and sincere in giving govt credit for rebuilding an economy which was heading for disaster……………..
ac, you really read what you wrote above…..confession is good for the soul……..I thought prior to the last election that there was nothing wrong with the economy according to you, Brek up Dem and CCC?
You really are naive!
The government is playing all of us for a joke! The unions are in on the act as well.
Anyone care to comment on the drivel from a drooling Duke of York in Saturday’s Sun? I am losing hope!
naive or stupid call it what u want ……….the fact is prior to 2014 the govt did all that was possible to keep country afloat including giving public servants a chance of providing a home and food for families…..however as dire circumstances unfold govt had no other option but to retreat or revised certain policies whether their be comparable to others or not does not matter what matters are ,,that their policies put in place to bring remedy towards an ongoing fiscal decay of uncontrollable debt,,,,,,,,,the problem with u prodigal is that you and other yardfowls want to control ,,,and would say or doing anything to gain such control,,,,,,until then nothing the govt does or say would please u……..and other yardfowls …..chupische….
At the mention of lawyers any news of Thompson’s last will and testament?
We can see in our minds how this can go, we will just have to hope that they learn a lesson of fraud and cover up, The real Roots of Barbados problem is in the lawyers that look for ways to get rich fast and wrong,
Trust when We say , they are on their last legs of this game with the Lives of the People of Barbados,
As even i sit here I and We can see how much we love the work of David and BU, Even if AC is really MIA ?, For it seem they will talk about all others but not it self.
Records of History and events are being recorded by BU and have a time line,
No matter what tricks they DBLP come with ,We at Plantation Deeds seen most living in the States , So we can not be fooled by what ever they come with,
We can see events 9 step ahead, There is nothing new under the Sun.
Lammie Craig aka Beresford gone…may he rest in peace.
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Barbados Labour Party stalwart and former Cabinet minister Lionel ‘Lammie’ Craig has died. He passed away this morning around 10 o’clock at the Queen Elizabeth Hospital. BLP leader Mia Mottley is expected to issue a tribute soon.
DAVID
IS IT TRUE THAT WICKED LAMMIE CRAIG COCK UP AND DEAD
Barbados: UAE way or the highway
http://www.caribbean360.com/business/1107088.html
The development of medical tourism in Barbados
http://www.imtj.com/articles/2013/medical-tourism-barbados-30157/
Exclaimer;
That was the Barbados Today article that I referred to last week. It suggests that a good case can be made for the acceptance of the Estwick proposal.
A good article and one deserving of wide discussion on BU and elsewhere in Barbados..
Lionel Craigg-may he rest in peace
@ are-we-there-yet?
Oh! Time for bed!
In the bye election of 1987 to fill the seat for St John,a young lawyer fella held up a sheet of paper in Mt Tabor and said boldly.”This is the plan I have for St John.Vote for me and let me put this plan here to work for you,the people of St John.The following week I attended another DLP meeting in Ebenezer and I heard the same lawyer fella holding up the piece of paper in his right hand and making the same speech and the same promise.That was 1987.
I passed through that constituency yesterday and even the Follyclinic that got started in the year of yore,in the rain of the Mighty Sandy in 1991 or 92 aint no where near completion.The parish of St John look and feel like a Barbados of yesteryear.The parish still in the 1940’s.
Meanwhile,the lawyer fella dead and gone and left a will worth by some estimates 40 million bajan dollars.The will was probated soon after his death but the laws of this country allow public figures to conceal their wealth and no law says that the dead king’s will must be published in the Official Gazette by a certain time or the entire estate will be forfeited to the crown. Maybe Caswell can enlighten us as to the law and its application in respect of Wills of anybody,not only public figures.
There oughta be a law!
@ Georgie porgie
It is rearkable that you who claim to be a doctor can speak of death in so crude a manner . You are a disgrace .
And georgie porgie claims to be a “CHRISTIAN” rat uh seed……….LOL
And georgie porgie claims to be a “CHRISTIAN” rat uh see……….LOL
@Gabriel | March 9, 2014 at 10:35 PM |
In the bye election of 1987 to fill the seat for St John,a young lawyer fella held up a sheet of paper in Mt Tabor and said boldly.”This is the plan I have for St John.Vote for me and let me put this plan here to work for you,the people of St John……………………………
Gabriel,
DLP politics always is very intriguing. This was the biggest lie of that campaign. David Thompson started his political life as a liar and ended it as the biggest liar ever to grace the halls of parliament.
I heard Richie Haynes years later place this St John development plan in its true context. He said one night in Carrington Village that when DT pulled out that paper and said that this is a development plan agreed by the party, he looked at Sandi, Sandi looked at him and asked “what the hell is he talking about?”
Richie Hyanes said that the thing that hurt him was that DT did not have to lie, he was going to win hands down. He said that when they went back to George Street after the meeting………..all hell “brek” lose…………people curse DT asking him why he had to tell such a bold face lie………(that man was always a liar).
Richie Haynes said he never trusted DT after that. They had to stay at George Street all night and hash out a plan and claim it to be the St John Development plan which they all had to back.
So if there was never a plan and they had to put together something now you know why St John is still in the same place prior to 1987.
You see now how Dems stick together to put truth to a LIE………..no wonder we are seeing them stick together saying nothing in this Estwick thing! Dems now are the same as dems then!
@ac
After the downgrades, revisions of the economic strategies, Estwick affair, economic revelations of Dr. Delisle Worrell, expression of no confidence in the Barbados economy, way the public sector layoffs were handled, inability of the government to get loans, a myriad of problems and contradictions, the government’s mismanagement of the economy…..
“as far as i know the policies put in place by govt to handle the economic crisis are still on course……..”
If you actually believe what you wrote in the above quote, then your response to Small Farmer relative to the definition of a yardfowl into consideration; to wit:
“YES One who believes that their propaganda must be endorsed and entertained by all,,,,,,,,,”
This says it all, my friend, then you are the epitome of yardfowlism…. you want us to “endorse and entertain” your propaganda.
Uh so crazy arterxes or whatever..ac speaks only for self ..could n.t creless who agress disagrees personally i am very uncomfortable amongst a crowd .
The people in Barbados have gone kinda soft
Hence the kind of government that we experience at the moment
People need to make demands of the political system
for accountability and transparency. The Government should be under intense scrutiny at every turn. The problem with that though
is that people who have set low standards for themselves are unable to demand high standards from anyone else.
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Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagga —
waxing philosophical !!
Question is: Who got the biggest balls ?
England or West Indies
Mia or Sandy
Stuart or Sinckler
Nigel Barrow or Philip Greaves
Santia Bradshaw or Kerry Ifill
Richard Kellman or Denis Sealy
Reward Adonijah with a calypso Crown Nuh !
Where is JUST ASKING? You are needed on BU! Please come back, I miss your contributions.
Same goes for the old onion bags, bags, please come back!
Lammie Craig cannot rest in peace, no child prostitute can, hope it’s hotter than hell, and for all the hypocrites in Bim who would want to sing about what a good man he was, please give it a rest, everyone knows different………Mia, don’t make yourself look and sound stupid, another stain off the earth.
should read:
Child Prostituter
http://www.barbadostoday.bb/2014/03/10/kensington-albatross/#comment-9891
Lionel Seymour Craig joined the Bees in 1961 AFTER they had lost to the DLP,so that it was a time when the fortunes of the party had appeared to have tanked.Lammy was anathema to anything named DLP.That the Dems despised him for the harm he was able to bring to bear on that party is well known and it probably reached its zenith when he said in parliament that anybody coming to him with the initials DLP must starve.He spoke first and then apologized for any hurt he might have caused.He was an unforgiving admirerer of Tom Adams,loved him to a fault and cried openly when Tom met an untimely passing.Lammy held the St James seat for the Bees and got so confident in the 1980’s that he gave up a secure seat to take on Sandiford in St Michael South.By the time he had been committed to that decision Tom’s passing gave the Dems a ray of hope at returning to power and they did with Lammy losing his gamble in the process.There is no doubt that Lammy rubbed a lot of folk the wrong way.He was abrasive,pugnacious and took up his marbles when he couldn’t have his way.He was the kind of person to whom you gave a wide berth when he was coming at you with ‘blood ‘ in his eyes.
I think the Bees and the Dees will both celebrate his passing but for different reasons.In the same vein many lament the passing of these earthy politicos like Lammy and Eric Fly.
@Gabriel
Your comment is interesting when the Sanka Price headline in today’s Nation is read. He is referred to as a political giant. BU’s view is the headline is generous, he was more a polical character.
Good to hear the Attorney General communicate FINALLY that transparency legislation will be enacted this year. We will wait and see.
All the lives Craig ruined in his arrogance and evilly disgusting persona will beg to differ on what type of giant he was, giant slug comes to mind, is it not ironic that International Women’s Day is the eve of his demise, all the women who were brutalized and savagely beaten by that criminal when he was minister of housing, their children who witnessed it….. I had only one conversation with Craig many years ago when he showed interest in me and in keeping with my character, he hated me until his death. Let’s hear the other ministers who thought what he did was sport and manly sing his praises now.
“A GIANT SLUG” PHEW……LOL…….. can,t wait to hear more……..well well….
Georgie Porgie
My grandmother used to say that you should never say anything bad about the dead. And the wisdom of her words still rings in my ear some fifty years later because I don’t care how you look at there is still some evil in best of us and good in the worse of us.
The MOF speech last Sunday at St.James North was sooooo childish. Isn’t this the SAME DLP party that had a two/third majority in the government just over one year ago? Did the economic situation in Barbados became this way over the last year? It is time the DLP government stop blaming the last BLP government for everything. Yes, that government especially in it’s last term of office performed badly but so did the present party in its last term in office. With a then 2/3 majority, they could have change the consitutional law forbidding salary cuts. It is either they were not futuristic in their thinking , or just didn’t/don’t have a clue about running a country.
In his earlier comments on this matter Chris Sinckler called on the Opposition, if you please, to bring a motion to allow Public workers salaries to be cut to assist in reducing the fiscal deficit. He did not say that the Government would bring a motion to do so and expected that in this dire situation the Opposition would support it. Instead he framed the matter in a way to place total blame on the Opposition.
Why, even now after the horse has long bolted and retrenchments have started, does he try to whip an absent horse? Why couldn’t he bring a motion himself before the layoffs started? Does he see a future danger for the DLP in sponsoring such a motion that further disadvantages public servants? Does he think that he can fool the people all the time?
Looks like pure politricks to me.
The time to prove that the Government was serious about reducing Public workers salaries to assist in the effort to reduce the deficit was several months ago when they could have brought a motion to the house to do so. At that time it might have been barely possible to shame the opposition into supporting it but, not having his government bring the motion at that time, it is only blatant theatricks he is now indulging in.
@David
“accept technical assistance from the IMF when the GoCB and Frank Alleyne assured the country many times the IMF was not an option”
David, inviting the technical staff at the IMF which could include some regional economists working with the IMF to work with us in suggesting and providing solutions on tax reform is not the same thing as being under the dictates of an IMF programme.
I am sure that you understand the difference.
On the passing of Lionel Craig, I would not want to be churlish but Mr. Craig practiced a type of politics that was quite polarising.
It would have been interesting in this time of highlighting the scourge of domestic violence, how Mr. Craig would have publicly spoken to that issue.
David Thompson on becoming Prime Minister could have destroyed Lammy Craig over his actions at the St. Leonard’s school when Craig cheated tax payers with his “work” as a “contractor”, an arrangement which drew the full condemnation of the auditor general.
Thompson realizing that he was the last of the Grantley Adams era gave him a national honour to recognize his role in the politics of this country.
May he rest in peace but his political bark was much louder than his policy contribution.
Bajanfuhlife;
We all now know that DT’s character was the diametrically opposite to the squeaky clean image he portrayed to the public and that he had the same traits as Lionel Craig especially re. fatted calf politics.
So nice spin above, but I see the situation with Craig’s being honoured by David Thompson in a different way.
David Thompson recognized a kindred spirit in Lionel Craig and instead of bringing him to justice for alleged wrongdoing (according to your take of the Auditor General’s report) rewarded him with national honours.
It would be very interesting for you to post the relevant extracts from the AudG’s report so the BU family could judge the accuracy of your statements.
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@ Bajanfuhlife | March 10, 2014 at 10:14 PM |
“David, inviting the technical staff at the IMF which could include some regional economists working with the IMF to work with us in suggesting and providing solutions on tax reform is not the same thing as being under the dictates of an IMF programme.”
Are you saying the myriad of economists and accountants in Barbados, including those at the Central bank and the Ministry of Finance & Economic Affairs, are just a bunch of jokers many of them trained by the same the same Frank Alleyne?
If you have to invite the same people from overseas whom Worrell described as totally “unfamiliar” with the challenges facing emerging economies of “SIDS” like Barbados you could as well close down the Economics Department at Cave Hill, what do you say?
BTW, Barbados has always avail itself to technical assistance from international regulatory monetary institutions. Where do you think Barbados’s VAT came from? Owen Arthur? Maybe you have heard about John Due & Ann Friedlaender. If not you can ask your friends in the Ministry of Finance.
@ Are we there yet
When Owen Arthur appointed David Communist Song the Director of the Commission of Pan African Affairs, Seethru did not do this out of any love for blackness or a desire to develop a strategy to reverse engineer the “negrocrats”, it was a simple strategy of neutering someone whom he saw, at that time as a threat, miniscule as it was, at the ballot box.
So, lest Communist Song dilute the BLP votes with errant voters swinging to the “3rd party” Owen silenced that threat with a reward of servitude sorry gratitude by the Clement Payne wannabe.
David Thompson of the fatted calf brigade sought in classic Machiavellian style, befitting of Owen’s politics of inclusion, to appease beresford Leopold and to make Lammy and those of his appendages feel that they were being rewarded for their sterling contribution to the political landscape of Bulbados
Why destroy your enemies when you can make them your friends? Remember Britain and France, erstwhile longggg enemies, post 500 years of bitter competition in their colonization of the world, Magna Carta and all of that divine right of the Caucasian race, united, in World War I, against Germany
PUDRYR
That too! You are correct. Except that DT appeared to take pleasure in getting rid of anyone from Statutory entities who he felt might have had the merest whiff of a BLP taint and only Combermerians and DLP people were hired to replace them. Tom Adams gave Lionel Craig short shrift and he was not allowed to carry out the kind of full fledged “fatted calf” programme that DT later honed to perfection. I suspect that Freundel did not continue DT’s fatted calf policy with the fervor that DT brought to it.
I am also convinced that OSA, on the other hand, even though his politics of inclusion did no harm to an objective of neutering opposition, did a lot of good in seeking and allowing the best available talent to fill slots in the Public service. That was not so under DT.
If there is one thing that can be said for Seethru is that, in spite of his many faults, understandable because he is not Jesus the Christ, Owen did not suffer fools gladly.
One had to be a true pretender of serious note to so inveigle him that he appointed you to a position of trust and responsibility.
One notes that Owen was unable to discern the backstabbing nature of the opportunist Quisling Boyce, Boyce was one of a few that got through based on his perceived competencies and his ability to feign allegiance.
I feel that Owen was tricked by “Head Boy” Boyce because Owen identified with Boyce’s stuttering and since he Owen has a similar speech impediment, our former Prime Minister empathized with Big Head and thereafter let the Brutus into the forecourt of of the BLP’s Troy/Troia
But to err is human and Owen like all “Men in general, judge more by the sense of sight than by the sense of touch, because everyone can see, but only a few can test by feeling. Everyone sees what you seem to be, few know what you really are, and those few do not dare take a stand against the general opinion. ” Niccolo Machiavelli
@ Are we there yet
and yes… I forgot to add that I do agree that Owen “did a lot of good in seeking and allowing the best available talent (albeit mostly accolytes) to fill slots in the Public service….”
@are-we-there-yet? | March 10, 2014 at 9:33 PM |
In his earlier comments on this matter Chris Sinckler called on the Opposition, if you please, to bring a motion to allow Public workers salaries to be cut to assist in reducing the fiscal deficit.
@June Boy | March 10, 2014 at 9:01 PM |
The MOF speech last Sunday at St.James North was sooooo childish. Isn’t this the SAME DLP party that had a two/third majority in the government just over one year ago? Did the economic situation in Barbados became this way over the last year?……………………………….
Excellent posts by both of you.
I made the same point weeks ago when the Stinkliar told the BLP to bring the motion to cut the salaries of public workers. We all know that the economy was in shambles long before the election, yet they lied, lied, lied and said the economy was stable and on a growth path,
My point was why did they not bring a resolution to change the law when they had two thirds majority. But you see liars have to always cover their tracks. had they done this, the people would have known that something was up, though I cannot believe to this day that Bajans actually believed this lying DLP. Just like the refused to let the IMF come in 2012.
Talk about deceivers and liars.
AC………..some of the stuff Craig did in the 70’s-80’s and i am sure long before that was so horrendous that it’s just good that he has been removed from the earth finally and should have been put down like the rabid dog he was many decades ago.
But, you should be very aware that all the politicians from both sides of the divide knew not only of Craigs criminal behavior but all the human rights violations he committed against his own people and particularly vulnerable underage children and women…..no one said a word against any of his wrongdoings, Billie Miller was particularly close to Craig and called on him when she needed to clean up her messes, she i cannot stand either…….so there are no clean hands in either political party when it came to seeing damage done to the same voters they depend(ed) on for ‘power’ and ‘status’ and doing absolutely nothing to protect said voters or the women and children victimized by Lionel Craig and his political buddies.
@well well
What about David Thompson ‘he did die a DOG that was put down .the Devil has him , and is waiting for the rest of the DLP ministers and yard ducks like you, to be put down by your mindless ways
“But to err is human and Owen like all “Men in general, judge more by the sense of sight than by the sense of touch, because everyone can see”
One of Mr Arthur’s biggest faults was that he was a poor judge of character judging from how he let down by those whom he put his trust. Gems is perfect example to the detriment of the taxpayers.
Well Well
Please
Stop It !!!
Please
Watchman……….you are barking up the wrong dog leg, i am so not into politics..
Yagga…..too late, it cannot any worse than what i already typed, the problem with yall chauvinist pigs, you admire when the male species create havoc and permanently damage the psyches of women and children then blame it on the femal, it makes yall feel better about yourselves and women in Barbados are scared to speak out, well let me tell you, dead or not i could give a shit, we all die, as they go down, as long as I am around I will speak out all the evil shit they did, yall like to keep too many nasty secrets on the island when it’s men performing the evil acts…….suck it up Yagga, not afraid of your ass.
@ David:
If the Estimates for the 2014-15 financial year have been laid in Parliament is it possible to get an “early bird” copy posted on BU for our perusal so we could identify some trend as to the fiscal direction the country is going in?
It would be most interesting to see if operating expenditure provisions are made separately for the four revenue collection agencies that ought to be merged into the BRA w.e.f. April 01.
It should also give us some indication if this administration is really serious about the restructuring of the various statutory corporations and agencies (some 19 involved) due to take place from June and based on the findings and recommendations of a high powered think-tank.
With regard to the restructuring think-tank, the following is an extract of what the MoF committed to the HoA in his August 2013 budget presentation:
“The Committee has recommended that there be a concerted programme implemented to create operational synergies between these organizations so as to build efficiencies and save government significant sums in transfers and subsidies. This is to be achieved through the merging of some, and elimination of others of the organizations.
Following a review of the research and recommendations of the team, Cabinet has noted the paper and asked for additional work to be done to fully build out a sustainable government reorganization project through the statutory corporations identified. Cabinet has also instructed the Ministry of Finance to put in place a special unit to examine the Team’s proposal in full including the implications for service delivery, staff, and financial allocations
from the state to manage these organizations.
The Unit will comprise management, finance, human resource and legal expertise and has been mandated to return to Cabinet by December this year with a final set of recommendations on which organisations should be retained and which should be cut in pursuance of the objective of making government more lean and efficient and reduce the level of subsidies and transfers in the expenditure budget.”
“Artaxerxes | March 10, 2014 at 9:41 AM |
@ac
After the downgrades, revisions of the economic strategies, Estwick affair, economic revelations of Dr. Delisle Worrell, expression of no confidence in the Barbados economy, way the public sector layoffs were handled, inability of the government to get loans, a myriad of problems and contradictions, the government’s mismanagement of the economy”…..
It seems that the above and the huffing and puffing surrounding Dr Estwick’s revelations and veiled threats were nothing more than the 9 day wonder the Govt strategists and apologists surmised it would be and business has returned to normal with casual acceptance of the status quo even among the BLP apologists.
Before the Estimates debate has officially started , The BLP’s public Relations department commonly called The Nation Newspaper has started their attacks.
BLP supporter Sanka Price writes an entire backpage article quoting Mia Mottley adviser Charles Tibbits attacking the government’s estimates. Price knows that Tibbits is a regular in the opposition leader’s office but that is the Nation newspaper standard of journalism.
Flood the paper with the opinions of BLP supporters. The political whoredom at the Nation BLP newspaper continues.
NationBLPnewspaper
What about the message? We are screwed and people are smiling.hhhhhhhmmmmmm?
@ NationBLPnewspaper | March 17, 2014 at 7:22 AM |
“Flood the paper with the opinions of BLP supporters. The political whoredom at the Nation BLP newspaper continues.”
And you, NBLPN, is her biggest bloody “john”! Can’t help but support that whore of a ‘red’ rag sheet, can you now?
Balance; re your above post, March 17th 6.04 am;
The draft estimates reveal that the situation is so dire that the appearance of business returning to normal and that there is now a casual acceptance of the status quo is a mirage for both sides. It is just the calm before the storm. The estimates debate should be epic.
The Government has indicated in the estimates that it has failed dismally to produce the results demanded by the IMF and others. Unless they take the Estwick UAE route we can look for a full implementation of IMF prescriptions sooner rather than later. That is where the sht will hit the fan.
Chaos cometh after the lull in the storm.
@ NationBLPnewspaper
You constantly criticize The Nation newspaper, yet it seems as though you buy and continue to read it; then come to this blog to spew your political diatribe. Common sense would dictate that you invest your money elsewhere and stop reading The Nation.
Why not give yourself less stress…….buy the Advocate and watch CBC TV 8 instead, both of which constantly highlight the “positive” things being done by the DLP.
However, I suspect that without The Nation, you don’t really have any material of substance to contribute.
And this,awty, is in the face of two of them laughing publicly that they tricked the unions and got away with murdering the livelihoods of Barbadians!
You are so right, Artaxerxes!
“The estimates debate should be epic.”
Far be it for me to question your scholarship Artaxerxes but i am not sure your use of the word “epic’ to describe the event is appropriate judging from the generally poor quality of debate by the actors.
@balance
“The estimates debate should be epic.”
“Far be it for me to question your scholarship Artaxerxes but i am not sure your use of the word “epic’ to describe the event is appropriate judging from the generally poor quality of debate by the actors.”
I’m sorry sir, but I made no such comment nor any other about the estimates.
Balance;
T`was me awty. I meant epic in the sense that the outcome promises to be epic, not the acting, nor the actors, although there is a possibility that DE, MIA, the mof, and minister inniss will make memorable contributions.
Artaxerxes
Curious about the name
can you explain the name
@ Yagga Rowe
Artaxerxes was a king of Persia, who reigned from 465 – 425 BC
@Artaxerxes
You focus on where the problem is . The Nation newspaper needs to be exposed. They claim to be “all the paper for all the people” but have a policy of using only pro BLP commentators.
When one BLP columnist like Hoyos takes a break, they find former BLP senator Glyne Murray.
When they want legal commentary , they go to former BLP MP Ezra Alleyne.
On finance matters , they use BLP spokesman Clyde Mascoll.
On political commentary they use two writers who are on record speaking on BLP platforms and calling the government fascist and wishing it would collapse – Peter Wickham and Tennyson Joseph.
The evidence of what I am saying is clear and overwhelming. When you read the persons who write in the Nation, you get a consistent pro BLP tone. That is orchestrated by the hiring decisions of management.
I will not relent in exposing this to the people of Barbados and let them know that the Nation newspaper is the public relation’s arm of the opposition BLP.
The truth must be told and let the chips fall where they may.
Let us put raising the standard of journalism above cheap partisan politics.
@ NationBLPnewspaper
So what, if in your opinion, the Nation is in bed with the BLP? You are within your right to form your own opinion on the newspaper’s conduct. However, when the BLP was in office the Nation had columnists that took an anti-BLP tone as well. Those persons included Harold Hoyte, Ruedon Eversley, Irene Sandiford-Garner, Reggie Hunte, Hartley Henry, Peter Wickham, and a host of other DLP supporters.
At that time, many of us came to a similar conclusion you have now. But, I bet at that time, the Nation was the best thing since sliced bread for you.
Surely you must be aware that others have a similar concern of the Advocate and CBC as you have of the Nation. Since both these media houses are pushing your type of politics [pro DLP], I guess you have no problem with that, but would have a problem with those who oppose it.