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Hal Austin
Hal Austin

Introduction:
As the IMF troops gather at the gate, the people of Barbados have little time to reflect on how a once proud nation has found itself in this economic mess. But, as night follows day, it had to come; it is a modern-day example of Sodom and Gomorrah, of a people living so much beyond their means, partying and fornicating, that they forgot how hard work and good ethical behaviour has its rewards. For the national decline is not just economic, only that this time it is manifesting itself in an economic meltdown, but it goes right across the range of our social and cultural values. Although we can blame the 14 years of the Arthur administration for sowing the seeds of this predictable car crash, and rightly so, after nearly six years in government the DLP government can no longer use that excuse. The failure to manage the economy is theirs and theirs alone, first with the Thompson regime being caught off guard when it won the general election, and the political ignorance of Freundel Stuart to impose his mark on the post-Thompson government. But we are where we are and it is no good crying over lost opportunities. However, to kick off this period of tighter fiscal controls, government should impose a Bds$50m windfall tax on the commercial banks and use that money to fund a post Office bank; also encourage the credit unions to establish a joint credit union bank, both operating on balance sheet principles.

Policy Inertia:
Part of the DLPโ€™s policy inertia has been its lack of vision, a mainly professional middle class and cadre of policymakers who do not read outside a very narrow self-confirming set of publications and, even if they travel overseas, they wear cultural and policy blinkers. The result is a very narrow vision of what is politically possible, and the absence of any intellectual curiosity to drive them towards looking for new answers. You can see these people in London and New York, Toronto and Paris, straight from Grantley Adams Airport doing the familiar things they do at home: black pudding and souse, dominoes, watching cricket, drinking too much. Sometimes one is left to wonder how people could visit some of the great cultural capitals in the world and have not the slightest curiosity about visiting the theatre, or a top restaurant, or museum, or even good bookshops. This is the root of the problem, of the failure of policy, since they depend on a small self-justifying group of people for their ideas, people they have known since entering the infant school system until they emerged from university. The net result is a cultural and intellectual deficit which expresses itself in the lack of innovative policies back home.

The same thing for the economy: failure to analyse closely how other governments are dealing with the problems faced by their economies since the global crisis means that the DLP government is left with a number of patch-work, juvenile economic programmes. They have failed to understand that the ultimate tool to combat a recession is to restore demand and this can only be done through the mechanisms of private sector investments, consumer demand or government spending. It is clear that the artificial demand driven by cheap money, such as the scandalous so-called Car Extravaganza offered by RBC, is a return to the boom years of pre-2007/8 which saw sub-prime lending getting out of control. It is true, the private sector is having problems of its own, especially the small hotel sector, but these are cash flow problems that could be resolved with innovative financialisation. Attempts by the government to drive the economy through a massive amount of unsustainable loans is quite obviously not the answer. The latest proposal to resolve the problem, widespread public sector sackings, smacks of desperation, but it has serious repercussions for the wider economy. It will reduce overall demand and put more households in serious debt while at the same time cutting the tax take.

Keynes has shown that a deficit is not the end of the world; governments, like households, must spend carefully, prudently, and borrowing or printing money to pay salaries is carelessness. Governments however must also invest for the future, so that generations to come can reap the benefits. This government has no such vision. One explanation for the policy failure which is now crippling the economy is that it has taken this government nearly six years to realise that the global banking crisis and the following recession was an opportunity to restructure the entire economy. Instead, it chose to focus on inter-party rhetorical rivalry, not realising that the party in power had all the levers to impose its own policies. And, when necessary, it milked the national insurance scheme as if it was the governmentโ€™s piggy bank.

Housing:
Any government that wants to promote prosperity and redistribute national wealth should look first at housing. Since the Second World War, it is residential housing that has been the driver of household wealth in every western democracy. And this government had a black piece of paper on which to draft its housing policy โ€“ from clearing up the awful slums populate the city to many of the old traditional towns and villages.

Further, in an island of nearly 300000 people and only just over 100000 acres of land, density is important therefore comprehensive planning is of central importance. We cannot spread out, build swimming pools and golf courses, create recreational spaces, allocate agricultural land, an extensive road-building programme along with enough space for houses, offices, churches and other civic buildings. Something has got to give, and I suggest it is family housing that will have to give. This generation of politicians does not fully understand the transformative effect of home ownership, especially in the socially conservative environment that envelopes Barbados like a cloud.

Other Policy Failures:
Within the first 100 days of the Thompson government the DLP should have decoupled the Bajan from the Greenback, fix it against a basket of commodities and currencies, which would have provided a hedge against the need for a massive foreign reserve fund. Government should also outlaw the US dollar being used as legitimate currency for over-the-counter business in order to retain control over its money supply and reduce opportunities for small business people to carry out tax fraud by hoarding cash. It should raise the statutory school leaving age to 18; reform the school system with selection at age 14 to decide who would be best suited in an academic stream, a technical stream and a administrative stream. The next four years of their education will be focused on those streams as part of a wider policy on education and training. Government should also invite in new manufacturing and service industries, diversifying the economy away from an over-reliance on tourism. It should develop a sophisticate leisure sector, principally for Barbadians, but also of use to the tourism sector โ€“ a dry ski slope in the Scotland district, a permanent funfair in the Ragged Point/Culpepper Island area, develop the Seawell are as a commercial mall complete with restaurants, cafes, a three-star hotel, and a mono-rail running in the first phase to Codrington College.

When Barbados became constitutionally independent, we had a 15-strong trawler going up the Gulf fishing for shrimp. Why have we lost that industry? What has replaced it? We also had a very good, if small, dry dock, which we can also put back in operation servicing small yachts and boats.

Weymouth/Transport Board:
Government must act immediately to draw up a list of non-core assets which must be sold off in a strategic way. It has the biggest land bank in the country and should be compelled to come up with development ideas on how best to use that land, deciding what is for agriculture, what for recreational space and what for housing and commerce.

Government had an open goal with the under-performing Transport Board, its dilapidated vehicles and a prime development site. Combine all these with the need for financial innovation, in this case the need for a balance sheet retail bank, and the DLP administration would be in a position to claim, rightly, that it had done more for the economy of Barbados than 14-years of BLP rule under Owen Arthur.

First, St John is the safest DLP seat in the country and the nationโ€™s poorest parish, so it was a no brainer to re-locate the Transport Board to St John. Then government should separate the business of public transport from that of vehicle repairs and maintenance and establish them as separate businesses. It should then replace the existing vehicles with a working fleet of buses and a professional management team, which it should then privatise, offering 51 per cent of the shares to existing and retired staff, unions and ordinary non-institutional investors. The other 49 per cent should be offered to local and Caricom institutional investors with a mandate to return a profit of at least two per cent above the base rate.

The current staff mechanics and managers should be formed to a limited liability team and offered the repair and maintenance contract for an initial three years after which it would have to compete in open competition with other service providers for the contract. The Roebuck Street site should then be developed in to homes, offices and shops for mainly young professional people, with at least 200 per cent of the units used for social housing. With properly architecturally designed homes and office and shop provisions for a doctorโ€™s surgery, offices, a grocery, a membership gym, a swimming pool, and, including the Weymouth playing field, other amenities such as tennis, a leisure centre with an ice rink, badminton, squash, basketball and netball courts. The apartments could be offered to young professional men and women โ€“ through 100 per cent interest-only mortgages if necessary โ€“ and to non-Barbadians looking to buy holiday homes. With a deadline of three years to build the apartments and with off-plan sales, guaranteed by an independent NHC (which ideally would be part of an umbrella Sovereign Wealth Fund), the development would be self-financing within five to ten years.

Analysis and Conclusion:
As the dark clouds close in, there are two dominant issues that have led what passes for policy in Barbados down a cul-de-sac: first, the obsession with foreign reserves is out of date in contemporary macro-economic terms, as has been suggested on a number of occasions. The examples set by the big developed economies: the US, eurozone, Japan and UK โ€“ in printing money to refuel their economies then steadily withdraw those funds, what Ben Bernanke has called tapering, have proved very productive. The US saved the motor industry and until this week to pumped US$85bn a month in to the economy; it has now reduced that to US$75bn. In the UK, the Bank of England spent ยฃ375bn purchasing gilts back from institutional investors, mainly the banks and the European Central Bank has written a black cheque (whatever it takes). Instead of obsessing over foreign reserves for an exogenous shock that may never come, a reasonable proportion of those reserves could have been used to fund small and medium enterprise and create jobs for young men and women. Government missed that opportunity. Most of all, the government has failed to develop a youth policy which should go beyond just finding jobs, however, unproductive, to embrace education, training, recreational activities, and the criminal justice system.

Instead of dipping in to the NIS, government should have used the crisis as an opportunity to put in place a long-term saving vehicle and the creation of a sovereign wealth fund with a remit to return a minimum of two per cent above the rate of inflation annually. And with a Barbadian being one of the leading sovereign wealth fund analyst s in the world, we would have been starting from a pole position.

Sacking people at any time is devastating for the individual, but doing so in the middle of a recession (which the government and central bank governor still refuse to admit) could have long-term effects, as Steve David, of the University of Chicago, and Til von Wachter, of Columbia University, have pointed out (see: Recession and the cost of job lost).

Finally, we must look seriously at our growing population and the ill-thought out policy on the CSME free movement of people. It was bad when it was first introduced and it is even worse now in a serious economic crisis. All that is left to say is to wish you a most enjoyable Christmas and a most prosperous and traditional New Year.


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265 responses to “Notes From a Native Son: Pride Comes Before a Fall, Even for Some Governments”


  1. Bahamared

    Tell you what – try a little humility sunshine. I seem to remember recently someone telling you to bog off and start a blog in Bahamas. Fine join. But don’t come with platform shoes. They are fake since ultimately we have no identity of interest.. OK? IF, I say IF, you are the slightest bit interested in my beliefs try going back to earlier blogs. And for the record, I am not the slightest bit interested either in what, from the sideline, you think Owen Arthur and the rest were up to. Your version says more about you than anything else..


  2. Bahamared

    My last comment answers you.


  3. @well well
    agreed. Came across this opinion article today.

    http://www.caribbean360.com/index.php/opinion/1090465.html#ixzz2nyDFUcmv

    @David
    We spend too much fighting to find common interests, of which there are many. We can cooperate, benefit and still maintain our identity.

    But alas, 300+ years of slavery has rendered our minds incapable of expanding beyond self interest.

    Just observing


  4. Actually Bahamared BU has disagreed with some of your contributions in the past BUT we find your contributions most stimulating. How is that massive Chinese investment in the resort coming along. What about that road which is taking forever?


  5. If there is to be a germ of unity in the region of the Caribbean; I suspect that Barbados as well as her neighboring islands; ought to find the constructive means to eradicate the xenophobia that is so intricately interfused within the tapestry of our cultures.


  6. Here is part of the problem:

    Commenting on the recent denial of entry of 13 Jamaicans into T&T, which he said was โ€œunfortunate and should not be repeatedโ€, Dr Slater said: โ€œLet us slow down, let us take this thing a little bit more seriously and understand the implications. And let us solve the problems because they are not insurmountable โ€” we have the ability to. We have worked on problems much bigger than that and we have succeeded, and we can and must solve these problems.

    http://guardian.co.tt/business/2013-12-20/put-brake-boycott-talk

    Now if this was Barbados instead of T&T the whole region would be yelping like the proverbial dog. Our leadership is too hypocritical and insular.


  7. David, I do not know of any that can show results in the very short term โ€“ as in tomorrow. I simply wish the GOB to implement simple, readily available measures to reduce imports, reduce the size of the public service, reduce expenses and reduce, at least, the domestic debt. In my opinion, part of the long term strategy for generating foreign exchange has to be investment in technology from a human resource perspective โ€“ software development, etc. In general, invest in the ideas of the young people, give them wings and let them fly.


  8. But Observing, surely self-interest is a human not a slavish frailty. You are not subscribing to Beckles’ latest assertions to the effect that we are educationally, socially, morally and psychologically backward are you? Or that our health problems and presumably our want of financial prudence are the fault of the British?


  9. @Alien

    Bajanabroad touched on the crux of the issue in an earlier comment. Our leadership must demonstrate the leadership which is able to mobilize galvanize catapult ALL of our people to want to contribute to national productivity in whichever area converges with their areas of skill and competence.


  10. We often spew this notion of a unified Caribbean on the one hand, while on the other hand, we’re enveloped in this quondam- antagonistic struggle for recognition and bragging rights .


  11. Barbados Bonds at Record Yields as IMF Urges Restraint
    By Bill Faries Dec 20, 2013 5:35 PM GMT

    Barbados dollar bond yields traded at record highs for a third day as the government pledged to start firing 3,000 public workers and the International Monetary Fund urged the Caribbean island to rein in spending.

    Yields on Barbadosโ€™s 2021 dollar bonds were at a record 9.58 percent at 12:16 p.m. New York time and were up 33 basis points, or 0.33 percentage point, this week. The 2022 dollar bonds traded at 9.61 percent after rising to a record 9.64 percent on Dec. 18.

    Central government debt as a percentage of gross domestic product rose to 94 percent in September, the IMF said in a Dec. 13 statement, citing a level that has helped prompt bond restructurings in countries from Cyprus to Jamaica. Barbadosโ€™s government is taking the right measures and can avoid a debt restructuring, according to analysts at Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce and Oppenheimer & Co.

    โ€œI expect them to be able to get through this,โ€ John Welch, a strategist at CIBC in Toronto, said in a telephone interview. โ€œTheir financing needs arenโ€™t especially large in absolute terms.โ€

    Struggling with declining tourism revenue in the wake of the global financial crisis and high debt, six Caribbean countries have gone through nine debt restructurings since 2003. Jamaica restructured about $9 billion in local bonds this year before receiving about $2 billion in loans and aid from the IMF, World Bank and Inter-American Development Bank.

    An e-mail message to Barbadosโ€™s government information service by Bloomberg News wasnโ€™t immediately answered.
    Market Signals

    โ€œThe marketโ€™s signal to Barbados is clear,โ€ Carl Ross, a managing director at Oppenheimer in Atlanta, wrote in a research report to clients. โ€œBarbados must implement its adjustment report quickly and forcefully.โ€

    Barbados Finance Minister Christopher Sinckler announced a plan in August to boost economic growth, reduce the budget deficit to 2 percent by 2020 and bolster reserves. Last week, he said the government would also fire 3,000 public workers starting next month, freeze wages for two years and cut travel budgets for ministries in half.

    โ€œWe cannot hope to cut or tax our way out of this economic decline,โ€ Sinckler said. โ€œThe pressure is on us to step up and remove all obstacles to investment in our country whether from domestic or foreign investors.โ€

    To contact the reporter on this story: Bill Faries in Miami at wfaries@bloomberg.net

    To contact the editors responsible for this story: Brendan Walsh at bwalsh8@bloomberg.net; Bill Faries at wfaries@bloomberg.net


  12. @Bahamared

    Why don’t you consider penning sharing a few words for submission how you see our little islands sustaining themselves although we acknowledge the global economic turbulence?


  13. Look how the Japanese people rebuilt after the Tsunami. I am afraid the pride and industry of our older generation is lost on the current majority.

    Take away their phones and internet and then they’ll wake up.


  14. Minister Sinckler, most of us live in regret, looking back and asking why we did not have the courage to act. The fact is that many of us know what should be done when at crossroads in our lives, but few have the courage to make difficult decisions and resign ourselves to accept the consequences of our inaction. Your inaction, however, will impact thousands of Barbadians, who have sacrificed much for our way of life. You are the MOF and we invite you to lead us at this difficult time, but if you do not have the courage to do so, please respectfully resign and allow someone who has the courage to do so.


  15. Yes, a unified Caribbean is possible, but it has to be clothed with the American- Republican model of government. It has to be dressed with the same aspects of the Executive / President, Legislature/ Congress, and the Judiciary/ Supreme Court!- To Hell with the British model: it hasn’t worked for us .


  16. @David

    The Baha Mar development looks pretty complete structurally (you can see it for miles in all directions, standing at 300 feet) but will not open until December 2014.

    The road is finally finished and has had amazing effects on traffic. You sound like you have been to Nassau somewhat recently.

    I would like to pen something for submissioin, probably best after the Xmas, which is hectic.


  17. @Robert Ross

    I am not aware which platform shoes you refer to, but I had no intention of heavily criticising Owen Arthur, some of whose achievements I admire. Being a foreigner to Bajan politics, I do not allow myself to delve into criticism of a political nature. I have always found Mr. Arthur to be smart and sensible (not unlike Hubert Ingraham, but a little more personable). I only disagree strongly with his having pushed CSME firstly on the Bajan people and then (unsuccessfully) on a somewhat impressionable Perry Christie. It was big news here, not only for the strength of public opposition, but also for the fact that most Bahamians regard Barbados as the only Caribbean country that is our peer – hence the choice of OSA as the PR man for CSME.

    My comments on OSA were made in this restricted context.


  18. @ Robert Ross
    Once again, I am for a Caribbean federation, but the present Caricom and its satellite organisations (CCJ, CSME, etc) are not what we are looking for.
    About the EU and UK, if you have evidence of how the UK can survive in the medium to long term outside the EU, let’s hear it.
    The EU is our biggest trading partner, with a current market of 500m people and the highest per capita earnings in the world.
    Out banks have the biggest exposure to the eurozone and the City of London is the financial centre of Europe.
    London (along with Dublin) is the home for many non-European companies looking for entry in to Europe.
    What we need is a United States of Europe, not less EU for the UK.
    The same thing for the Caribbean. We should be setting up regional bodies to deal with financial regulation, we need to improve our democracy by having elected Caricom representatives, with a population of over 6m, the size of Norway, we can feed ourselves. Guyana, bigger than England, has a population of 750000, London alone has a population of 8m.
    What passes as free movement of people is a two-tiered movement – graduates of the University of the West Indies and Guyana get free movement as of right, along with journalists.
    But graduates of Harvard, Yale, Oxford, Frankfurt, etc must get ministerial permission. It is a joke.
    If you give a minister power he will exercise it. We are in a mess and do not have a way out,


  19. @Robert Ross

    it is indeed a human interest but in our case it’s compounded exponentially by a centuries old socio-cultural catalyst that has fixated us in mentally paralyzing cement, shaken our self-confidence and further separated us from our source.

    re Beckles comments about being backward

    educationally…no
    socially..no
    morally…depends on which prism you look through
    psychologically…to a point

    I’m surprised you left out spiritually, which really and truly is the core of all other forms of progression.

    and by the way, backwardness is relative. in many aspects we are actually quite forward…just not in the ones needed right now to allow us to lift off as a nation and climb out of this hole we’re in.

    @Hal
    We should be setting up regional bodies

    Which regional bodies in the Caribbean actually work? lol.

    Just Observing


  20. ****that should read a “human frailty”

    btw, self interest is a strength not a frailty. If channeled the right way by the right leader(s) miracles can happen. ๐Ÿ™‚


  21. Observing

    I left our ‘spiritually’ because Beckles did not mention it. What I find fascinating is how, if Beckles is right, we apply the criterion of backwardness to ourselves – me, you, him, David, Miller, H Austin and the rest of the charabanc..For myself, I find the idea of backwardness insulting – to me, you and the rest, and to my postman and all the others who help me live my life’s journey…….and all for what? Reparations which will never be paid? To establish a wrong? A wrong that, in his terms, can neither be established nor quantified?

    H Austin

    And how many billions would be saved? Begin by googling (as you know very well) the UK Independence Party. Candidly I think you are being disingenuous.

    Bahamared

    I am glad you wrote and see, in that post, that we are in broad agreement. Thankyou.

  22. Cyprian La Touchรฉ Avatar
    Cyprian La Touchรฉ

    @everybody
    Sorry to burst your collective bubbles, but neither a U.S. nor E.U. nor even U.K. Style of political union is possible or even foreseeable in any near future.
    It would probably be a wondrous thing to happen and on paper makes perfect sense but as usual we continue to conveniently ignore the facts.

    The first one: We tried it already, didn’t work. And that was when we had a (most) respected leader, and more in common with regards to visions both political and economic.
    We had one common Shepard (more or less) in the U.K. dispensing with his flock and providing “assistance” to speedily advance the process.

    We had a common “influence” and master in the U.S. who again more or less saw the region as their backyard and personal playground. Their preferred place to party and winter and thus invest.
    We had one common “enemy” in Russia with the full on threat of communism and the idealized responses of developing various versions of social democracies.

    There was (really) no Venezuela and no China with their current aggressive and anti American positions. Before it was just Cuba that was a major interest of the Soviet regime and mostly militarily. China especially is quite willing to leverage development loans not just for extracting resources but for support of international programs like its One China policy and position on Taiwan.

    Though the international forces working to divide us are now stronger than they ever have been, there are even more significant business ones that seek to exploit those divisions to their advantage. In particular the cruise industry that deliberately negotiated quite separate and distinct packages with each territory. Take what we are offering or we’ll simply move on to your neighbor.

    The current pack of leaders may shout about regionalism but they whisper speak and only care about their own little fiefdoms. There was a reason why tourism was “given” to Barbados. Why LIAT was given to Antigua. Why the CCJ was set up in T&T and other institutions shared between the territories. Now there is more than ever fierce and overlapping competition for everything everywhere as the region unable to fight outside turns inward and cannibalizes itself.
    We talk about a common heritage and color and “cultures”, but so what? Everybody in Europe was white (more or less!) and they only were able to get together a few short years ago after centuries of being at each other’s throats.

    The above mentioned countries are LINKEN by location and land. They share borders that wax and wane depending on the politics of the period. It is exceptionally easy to move goods, services and peoples from place to place and in many situations markets can only be accessed by crossing third party borders.

    NOBODY wants easy links between the islands at this time no matter how much they say differently. NOBODY is prepared to subsidies it (especially not T&T) and the other territories depend too much on the tax revenues from their air and sea ports to give up control. Why can’t we even get a simple ferry to work? Try and ask yourselves. It doesn’t work because certain people DONT want it to work.

    Our economies are vastly different and function in vastly different ways being driven by vastly different local influences. Is Trinidad prepared to take the role of Germany and bail out its brothers? Is Barbados willing to devalue its dollar to levels more along the lines of its neighbors? Is Jamaica prepared to accept a non Jamaican calling the shots? Are we all prepared to accept Haitian migrants and condemn The Dominican Republic for its racist position?

    We can’t even agree on a fishing agreement because we believe that the fish belong to us Bajan! We can’t even decide on a proper balance for a winning West Indies Cricket team!
    We can’t agree on the little things, and you expect us to suddenly settle down sing from the same hum sheet?
    Not gonna happen for a long, long and very long time.

    Cyprian


  23. Self-interest is more than a strength Observing….it is a VITAL component of success.
    Without self love, it is NOT POSSIBLE to love others…..indeed, as humans, it is ONLY possible to love others as much as we love ourselves.
    This is why charity MUST begin at home (with one’s self)

    THEREFORE, Enuff, if we disrespect and disown our immediate family, there is no chance of a successful extended CSME family.

    Singapore was successful FIRST for citizens and THEN – because of that – can be welcoming to extended families.


  24. BT

    As much as I have learned to like you, as I would a fellow geriatric in an old people’s home, as you know I simply do not accept that loving others is contingent on self-love. Nor do I regard self-interest as essential to love. To put it another way – my love for my wife is not contingent on her providing me with a cure for gut ache.


  25. A sudden Christ-Mass thought…..

    where are Amused and Old Onions? Well, wherever you are, hello.


  26. Bush Tea | December 21, 2013 at 7:56 AM |

    @balance
    “Bushie is beginning to understand youโ€ฆ..
    You have a warped idea of what โ€œfamilyโ€ means.

    Family normally comprise of blood relatives and in-laws (spirit relatives). ”
    Not in my book Bushie warped or not we certainly have a different view about the meaning of family.
    In my book family means persons on whom I can rely in time of need. I do not subscribe to this blood relative thing; because the hypocrisy of that concept is that blood relatives are often what they are ‘blood relatives’ plain and simple but cannot be counted upon when the going is rough.
    Mr Arthur did not start the integration movement. Caribbean people were travelling informally and hassle free to and from each others’ territories way back in Colonial times. Even though attempts to federate failed, Bird, Barrow and Burnham expanded the concept with the introduction of Carifta and subsequently there was Caricom lauded by none other than Mr William Demas and Sir Arthur Lewis two world renowned economists from the region.


  27. RR
    How can you love your wife if you do not love yourself?
    What can you care about her well being if you are careless about your own?

    ….would you trust your doctor’s advice about not drinking when he is an alcoholic?

    It is simple:
    First you learn to love yourself
    Then you learn to love and respect others
    Then you may be able to come to know and love God…

    @ Ross
    Please translate the sentence about loving your wife and its contingency on her providing you with belly ease…. ๐Ÿ™‚


  28. @Cyprian
    There was a time when I thought that a confederation with Canada might be the way for the anglophone Caribbean to go.Then I read Jamaica was considering that in 1912 and of course it got no where.
    Now I believe the mighty US of A will one day march in and say the Monroe Doctrine is amended and henceforth you will be part of the US of A and not a sh voice will be raised because we would have been all reduced to piss poor status by then.The rot has been about and around us since the 70’s and the great Barbados is about to get on board.In 6 short years we have had 3 or 4 Moody’s downgrades and the Stuart administration is still safely ensconced in Bay Street,the Defence Force is a satellite of the US and the Chief of the Court system is a US citizen.The Police now are uniformed like the US Police and our Police vehicles are painted similarly.Slowly we are marching into the trap and I can see no alternative.Our politicians have failed us big time.Stuart?Sinckler?Boyce?Worrell?They are names that will be notorious in the short history of an ‘independent’Barbados for having taken us to a state of mendicancy and poverty.


  29. @ balance
    Skippa, if you don’t know the difference between ‘family’ and ‘buddies’ don’t blame Bushie…
    Check it out….blood and spirit ; blood and spirit…… ๐Ÿ™‚

    What are you telling Bushie…?
    Not one – but whole TWO (2) economists (Both named SIR something) …lauded CARICOM…?
    Wuh shiite den….it must be OK!!
    Bushie is underwhelmed!!!


  30. BT

    I would die for her…..not my interest but her interest.

    Of gut ache…..The fact that my interest is not served does not diminish my love.

    Or again….despite all her nagging which makes me want to seek refuge in a bordello I still love her.

    I guess you’d also have to factor in the concept of duty…….doing my duty by her I confess to adultery…definitely not in my interest and with no intention to become a martyr (self-love – ‘Hey, aint I great? I’m a martyr’).


  31. Bushie you sound so igrunt.


  32. But Robert, the fact that you “would die for her” is only meaningful to the extent that your dying actually meant something of value…..
    There are some fellows that would die for a grog, Baffy would die for a Crop Over chick….such a person who would “die for her” ain’t saying a pang…

    On the other hand, if you REALLY loved and CARED about YOURSELF, then a commitment to “die for her” takes on much more meaning.

    …as Bushie suggested to Observing, the meaningfulness of such a commitment is DIRECTLY proportional to the self- love of the proponent.
    Wuh if you ain’t care bout yourself, how much can you care about others?


  33. @ Enuff
    Bushie is not surprised that you think the bushman sounds Igrunt….perhaps he is….but perhaps…
    Remember, everything is judged based on the perspective of the observer….like Bushie was just saying to RR…

    …so if a fellow sounds Igrunt to you It could mean one of three things…
    1- The man Igrunt in truth…
    2- you is the one that Igrunt…
    3- BOTH are igrunt

    LOL…Bushie betting on # 2 ๐Ÿ™‚

  34. PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926 TO 2013 , MASSIVE FRAUD ,LAND TAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS OF BARBADOS, BLPand DLP=Massive Fruad Avatar
    PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926 TO 2013 , MASSIVE FRAUD ,LAND TAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS OF BARBADOS, BLPand DLP=Massive Fruad

    More bull by MIA DBLP government

  35. PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926 TO 2013 , MASSIVE FRAUD ,LAND TAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS OF BARBADOS, BLPand DLP=Massive Fruad Avatar
    PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926 TO 2013 , MASSIVE FRAUD ,LAND TAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS OF BARBADOS, BLPand DLP=Massive Fruad

    MIA , crook, liar and scumbag, there is a Unity party called now the DBLP , BOTH parties in to PONZI Massive Land Fraud , Owen as PM and MIA as AG , Sir Richard L.Cheltenham Phd QC and Sir C.O Williams . PONZI need new money all the time , Land tax Biills no deeds , Violet Beckles Estate was launder from Barclay’s to First Caribbean Bank and the same bank to back or help with the 225million loan


  36. bahamared you have indeed been providing food for thought with your views on caricom but I too like Mr Ross believe that your reference to caricom vis a vis as a means of ego seeking by politicians is too narrow and simplistic. For example, Mr Barrow bestrode Barbados like a colossus for over 20 years, large and in charge as the ‘skippa’. There was no need for him to inflate his ego. Similarly, to a lesser infamous extent, Mr Bird and Mr Burnham.
    Now back to regionalism and its attendant ills. you cannot ignore the fact that your close proximity to the USA gives you a distinct and overwhelming advantage over the lesser Caribbean territories with easier and cheaper access to American goods and services (visa requirements, higher educational opportunities and dollar parity notwithstanding) and as a consequence would not see regionalism as an attraction but rather a hindrance. As I intimated earlier , Bahamians even speak like Southerners. So Mr Arthur and other regionalists should have realised that they would be trodding a dead horse in asking a group of people culturally mired in the concept of the goodness and greatness of America and with easy access to this bounty that other peoples are willing to die to obtain to gamble with something new. And I do not blame you; for were I in your boat, I would stick with what I consider to have served my interests well. For instance, in a group discussion, a fellow said that he sorry we independent because he would be able to live and work in Great Britain as he liked. The other fellows lambasted him but who was I to vilify another because his ambitions differed; because your interests differ does not mean you should frown upon a concept as farfetched as it might seem given the turmoil which preceded the unification of great nations like Russia, usa , Britain ,china ,Vietnam etc . just as a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step, and the accumulation of a million dollars begins with a single cent, surely as night followeth day, the unification of these islands must one day be a reality.


  37. BT

    But your examples assume (I suppose) a use of the word ‘love’ in the context of ‘drink’ or ‘girl’s thighs’ which would not be analogous with the concept of love in the way either of us intend. But if I say to my wife ‘I would die for you’ and do (because it’s her or me) then clearly I put her interest before mine – which on your principle I can’t do. Your principle requires me to say “Honey, I love you because you’ll die rather than me and before you I first loved me and my continuing self-love allows me to say – most meaningfully – ‘I love you’.”

    I guess the bottom line is that your premise ‘self-love before love’ simply can’t be proved. It’s repeated assertion can’t do it and all my examples seek to do is point to cases where there is no obvious self-love and, prior to that, self-interest. BUT by all means demonstrate that in them there IS at least a covert self-love. DON’T say ‘guaranteeing a place in heaven’ though else we’re back where we started and I’m an atheist anyway.

    Well, the nurse is doing her rounds. She’s about to do me and will then do you. YEAH. I’d die for a piece of that.


  38. “Bush Tea | December 21, 2013 at 10:00 PM |

    @ balance
    Skippa, if you donโ€™t know the difference between โ€˜familyโ€™ and โ€˜buddiesโ€™ donโ€™t blame Bushieโ€ฆ
    Check it outโ€ฆ.blood and spirit ; blood and spiritWhat are you telling Bushieโ€ฆ?
    Not one โ€“ but whole TWO (2) economists (Both named SIR something) โ€ฆlauded CARICOMโ€ฆ?
    Wuh shiite denโ€ฆ.it must be OK!!
    Bushie is underwhelmed”
    And I am overwounded Bushie that it takes reference to the mouthings of two bookworms to garnish your support. Bushie if you think I am a jackass to allow blood and spirit to run counter to my commonsense and left my little pittance to blood relatives be it son and daughter and ignore the contribution of non-blood who showed me more love, care and attention then hell no. ingratitude in my book is the worst of all sins and I am a sucker for the good Samaritan story.


  39. Balance

    There is something incredibly beautiful in the human spirit which simply cannot be put down, isn’t there? Yet though I may have any amount of spirit, my first and many other steps back to Bim will only lead me to the sea. Sadly however, 4000 miles of water is bigger than me. I can’t walk on it, can’t swim and have no fare for the plane so there are no short-cuts. Seems I must be an outsider to my dreams.

    Just as we knock judges on BU as incompetents so also politicians as greedy, unprincipled ass-holes. Yes there are some in either case. But I simply do not believe that all are. I mentioned one who wasn’t way above. And no (since someone’s going to say it) I am not Owen Arthur though, for good or ill, I do respect him enormously.


  40. the jury would be out for a long time on CSME.. it reminds me of the older generations of Cubans who are and is still fighting the cuban regime many of whom have already resided in greener pastures via the USA and in the meanwhile a new generation of politicians like Obama who sees light at the end of the tunnel, so it will be for the CSME the older generation of dissidents like the bush TEa would move on to greener pastures as the inevitability of their demise removes them from this earth while the new blood of younger and an innovative generation moves forward seizing the power of control advocating meaningful and sensible solutions with vision and understanding that we as a people in order to survive must get along preaching a message of hope one that seeks resolve in removing the old school of thought and barriers of doubt and confusion freeing us from our captors and forcing us to look among ourselves,

  41. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ bahamared | December 21, 2013 at 2:08 PM |
    “@Observing: Correct. Devaluation is a stupid idea. It would only diminish the buying power of Bajans and bring down the standard of living.”

    How can it be a stupid idea when the entire objective is to do just that, bring down the standard of living; a standard of living it can no longer afford through borrowings?

    Barbados is living way above its productive means and the Devaluation route is the most “efficient” route to bringing about this stark realization to a people who feel the world owes them a living and they are the centre of the universe around which everything else revolves.

    What other method would you suggest be engaged to make Barbados a more productive and less โ€˜conspicuous consumptionโ€™ country again?

    You only have to look around at the countryside and see where once arable land (the only real productive asset remaining) is allowed to return to bush and used as dumping grounds for imported environmentally destructive waste thereby providing perfect havens for rats and other vermin that would eventually compromise the public health of the nation.

    Check out the number of derelict and abandoned vehicles that scar the landscape further compromising the water system
    Can’t you see that a significant adjustment in the vast import of vehicles would relieve the pressures?
    Watch and sees that in spite of the significant pressures on the foreign reserves Bajans will continue to import SUVs and other vehicles in excess of 2,000 c.cโ€™s for private use in 2014.

    Donโ€™t you think itโ€™s time the same Bajans are forced to wear suits to reflect the cloth they are able to afford? The days of champagne taste and mauby pocket are over and the credit card has been taken away.


  42. @ Robert
    …yes, deal with the nurse.
    Bushie continues to be impressed with your uncanny ability to convert molehills into giant mountains…. Shite man, given enough time you could convert Barbados into Dominica.

    Perhaps an extreme example would help you….. ๐Ÿ™‚
    Bushie (a fellow who has everything he ever dreamed of and who is highly focused on an exciting future of weed whacking in BBE land) proffers that he has feelings so strong for your daughter that he would die for her….

    Another fellow name LP (L is for leper despite any shiite that Freundy says) who has $8M under his pillow but no peace, no friends, no hope and no grammar) – also proposes his love, to the point of death.

    You would advise your daughter to go for the future whacker or the leper?


  43. @ balance
    My man……you are beginning to worry the bushman yuh….
    ********
    Not one โ€“ but whole TWO (2) economists (Both named SIR something) โ€ฆlauded CARICOMโ€ฆ?
    Wuh shiite denโ€ฆ.it must be OK!!
    ********
    SARCASM balance ….THAT is SARCASM!
    Economists shiite!
    What the hell is that?
    An economist is a person who was not bright enough to become a doctor, not smart enough to lie as a lawyer, and not articulate enough to bullshit children as a teacher.
    It is however, one step up from a political scientist – which is another term for unemployed pollster.

    The only things worse then, than economists, are political scientists, and ‘economists called “SIR”….’

    ….so read the post again and come back to Bushie… ๐Ÿ™‚

    …and balance….
    If you got problems with your children and would prefer to leave your assets to strangers instead, let’s drop that topic. Shit happens….


  44. @ Miller
    Boss man….why don’t you take the lead from Bushie nuh?
    LEAVE BAHAMARED alone…. That damn man is another MME hear?
    He bright as shiite…..and he right too.

    As you know Bushie does beat home drums FIRST, so the bushman would like to side with you, but Bushie was not born recently…. And will NOT be backing no three legged horse in no race…

    At our stage, the question of devaluation is NOT whether it is good for us or BAD for us…..it is about whether we have any choice.
    WHEN it happens,…. the consequences will be both good and bad…

    “BAD”…because EVERYTHING that is imported will cost much more in local currency. Standard of living will decrease.
    That is only “bad” because we think that we deserve to live “big” – even though we don’t EARN the right to do so….

    Devaluation will be GOOD….because it will bring us closer to a position where we are living WITHIN our means – and back to a SUSTAINABLE growth path.

    If we were wise, some time ago WHEN WE HAD CHOICE IN THE MATTER, we would have made a conscious decision to bring our lifestyle to within our means – EITHER by reducing our expenses to within our income,….OR by improving our productivity to cover our expensive lifestyle.

    Now we are at the mercy of our creditors….on our KNEES…
    That is what BB- means.


  45. Exhbit A Bush TEA …… a vessel of “PROTECTIONISM and selfishness.,using those indicators that got us in hot shite, easy and ready to live in a past that have landed us on the seas shores of “NO WHERE always looking backward and insisting that forward is too hard of a road to take in the meanwhile settling for” the bird in the hand”….. ,, tossed and turned by the waves of suffocation while looking over yonder and pondering about how others have survived………….A lesson to be learned…………


  46. @Bush Tea

    Is it not amazing that all you are saying, if we distil in simple terms, let us live within our means and to do so by defending our national identity which is the attribute where our national esprit de corp begins. If we can’t accomplish what is a commonsense task what is the purpose of our existence anyway.

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