As if to divert attention away from their inept performance, it has become boringly familiar for ministers of Government to slander groups of public officers. It would appear as though ministers somehow believe that it is their duty to disparage and otherwise tear down civil servants when speaking in public fora. In so doing, they set up all officers in the particular category for public ridicule and abuse from members of the public even when the conscientious ones attempt to do their duty.
It is bad enough when ministers breach a long establish convention of not being publicly critical of the civil service, but it becomes exceedingly more troublesome when the Prime Minister joins the chorus of abuse. The Daily Nation of Thursday, March 8, 2012 reported that while addressing the CariGes for Women Pink and Purple Fund-raising Benefit at the Hilton, PM Stuart said:
“It is also a challenge trying to get the delinquent father served with the papers to come to court. There are situations where the people [court marshals] are drinking in the shop with the same man on whom they are to serve the document. And still they can’t find them and they are drinking with them”.
For the Prime Minister, that statement is simplistic, bordering on disingenuous to suggest that is the reason why court documents are not being served.
According to the Public Service (General) Order, 2008 there are 69 established posts of marshals: 1 Chief; 1 Deputy Chief; 3 Senior Marshal; 9 Marshal I; and 55 Marshal II. The 55 persons, who are in the posts of Marshall II, are the ones who serve the court documents. The Prime Minister knows or ought to have known that there are 25 vacancies out of the 55 posts. Of the remaining 30 approximately sixteen are assigned to do duty in the courts daily, and one is on extended sick leave. There are only 13 marshals left to service the entire country. Come on Mr. Prime Minister, whose fault is that? Certainly, it is not the fault of the much maligned majority of marshals who work above and beyond the call of duty.
Morale at the Court Process Office is already extremely low: it serves no useful purpose for the Prime Minister to jump on the bandwagon and contribute. He has it in his power to fix the problems. If he wanted to do anything other than talk, he should order an independent investigation into the operations of the Court Process Office but that would throw up too much political interference.
If the PM wants to see productivity in the Court Process Office one of the first things that he must do is to take steps to stop MPs from calling and putting pressure on marshals to release their constituents who would have been arrested for failure to pay maintenance. Next he should ensure that the few bad apples are removed. A few marshals have collected money that was supposed to be paid in to the office, and converted it to their own use. Last year, when questioned about that matter, by the Barbados Today, the Chief Marshal confirmed that an investigation was being conducted. Interestingly enough the police were not called in to deal with the matter as is required by rule 94 of the Financial Administration and Audit Financial) Rules, 1971, which states:
“Where fraud or theft is suspected, it is the duty of the head of department concerned to report the matter immediately to the Commissioner of Police and to the Director of Finance and Planning.
Instead of following the law, the offenders were given time to pay back the money and subsequently promoted to act.
On June 2, 2008, Magistrate Faith Marshal-Harris issued a warrant to commit for maintenance arrears for a man from St. Paul’s Avenue, Bayville, St. Michael. There were also two summonses out for the same man. The summonses were served but the warrant was returned to the court with a sworn affidavit endorsed as follows:
I, Adrian Lovell Chief Marshal make oath and say that by authoritative request I was asked to take possession of the warrant due to certain developing circumstances. Since then I have tried on several occasions to execute the same and was unsuccessful. I was unable to locate M. D.
It was signed by Mr. Lovell and sworn before Benjamin A. Payne, Justice of the Peace. When M.D. turned up for court on the summonses, he was recognised by one of the conscientious marshals who retrieved the warrant and took M.D. to prison.
A marshal, who became aware of that state of affairs, reported what he thought was perjury to the Registrar in accordance with the Public Service Act. For his trouble, this wise man, who was acting as a supervisor for almost 4 years, was reverted to the junior post.
Prime Minister you had all of these things to talk about but you chose to tarnish all marshals with one brush. I thought better of you: redeem yourself and apologise to those marshals that you have offended. I know that they are taking your attack hard.
Mr Franklyn, i sincerely believe that the Prime Minister like most of his other colleagues around him does not really know about this and several other matters which impact upon their provision of good Governance for this country.Addressing the DLP faithfuls in New York about two weeks ago he displayed ignorance of the laws of Barbados by erroneously informing his supporters that the DLP was making plans to celebrate among other things the Bastardy Act of 1975. For this , he was given a pass because no one has condemned the former keeper of the laws of Barbados for this blatant inaccuracy despite the immediate correction by Sir Henry Forde. This Government rather than sitting down on the assumption of office and trying to familiarise themselves with the nuances and mechanics of governance continued as if they were still on the political campaign. There have been too much inappropriate errors on their part. I sincerely believe Mr Stuart does not know because he does not strike me as dishonest or vindictive, just perhaps presently out of his depth; but i do wish him well.
Don’t care much for Civil Servants … sorry.!
Met Marston Gibson a couple days ago … impressive son of a human being … His talents of communication and clear thought (academics aside), sincerity of purpose and so on are invaluable but wasted as a Senior Public Servant.
I say “Marston Gibson for Prime Minister of Barbados” …!
@ Caswell:
“There are situations where the people [court marshals] are drinking in the shop with the same man on whom they are to serve the document. And still they can’t find them and they are drinking with them”.
Is this the same decent and honest man you previously resided so much hope in to cure the cancer of undue political interference in the public service?
One thing that is positive. He makes a damn good role model. Why should a marshal NOT protect his pal and probably the man who gives a little donation to help out with the high cost of living and reduced disposable income resulting from the taxed travel allowances? One can be sure that the marshal was of the view that there is nothing wrong with drinking with a pal who is a delinquent father but certainly NOT A LEPER.
What better expression of “friendship” than that exemplified by the same person now doing the public condemnation of low level public servants called marshals in one of the highest Courts of the Realm! The estimable gentleman is my pal, a hardworking and honest Barbadian who has risen to the top of a major financial institution that has provided great opportunities to many Barbadians to obtain their own homes, carve out a piece of the economic pie for themselves and have a long-term financial stake in the economy and society.
The marshals in question could have used this show of confidence and loyalty to their drinking buddies as the yardstick or benchmark to show true friendship and how to perform your public duties as mandated by the LAWS of the Land.
Why run down a man, even if from the bay land, to serve him a summons that could lead to a buddy spending time in jail for “cock” tax when the suffering children and poor mothers have been promised that turning up at the magistrate’s court for maintenance money and being told none is there is totally unacceptable and that this embarrassing and degrading situation would be a thing of the past.
Where, Mr. Molasses, is the promise made to these unfortunate and disadvantaged single mothers?
Serving a summons and incarceration might be punishment for the drunkard fathers but is certainly no help to the hungry children who did ask to be born in these conditions. Which should be phase 1 and which should be phase 2? Locking up the fathers for arrears in “cock” tax and preventing from earning income that can be garnished or ensuring money is there for the children when the month come. To ease the financial burden required to set up a child support facility and enforcement agency, why not move to collect some of the millions owed in VAT paid over to thieving and dishonest business persons by the same rum drinking fathers and hard pressed mothers.
@Miller
Hope you are not suggesting by your last comment that Court Marshals should not dispense their duty as required under their terms of employment.
Miller
If the Prime Minister knows for a fact that court marshals are drinking with people for whom they have documents to serve, he should make the information available to the Public Service Commission. As far as I am aware, this is the second time that the PM has publicly made this allegation. The marshals would be in dereliction of duty. What is he waiting for, name and shame the individuals at the very least.
@ David | March 11, 2012 at 7:19 AM |
Au contraire, Monsieur!
They should definitely execute their duties with the best of their abilities and within the bounds of the law.
But what better way to motivate workers than for the boss to lead by example. Jesus is alleged to have done it; but again what a state the world is in today. Not a good analogy! But you get the point about the boss and people who live in glass houses should not throw stones. Or even the admonishment that: those who are without sin, throw the first stone.
@Miller
Don’t know if the nexus you have identified is reasonable. The PM might very well be aware that Court Marshals are dithering on the job. One of the criticisms level at Stuart who is minister in charge has been his reluctance to breathe fire on civil servants.
when or if the PM hears what mr Caswell has opion by suggesting that he apologised he is going to LOL!
AC
You mean punish it with laughter.
as a matter of fact i will inform PM STUART on this apologetic matter of “NATIONAL CONCERN ” that is griping the attention of the nation with hesitancy
@ caswell
Very good sense of humor! LOL
Hopefully one day coming soon we will view problems of real people with the seriousness it deserves.
David in these hard economic times Do you think that “real people” see this “apology “issue as a seriousness of importance! i think not!
@ac
If you are a little discerning you would realize the real* issue does rest in an apology but in the resolution of a problem which falls under the purview of the PM.
David only if it is a lie ! it should send a message to those Civil servants that the PM is aware that there are those in government who only show up for work but does not work! Apology what. as a matter of fact the civil servants who are guilty of should be the ones aplogising to the taxpayer ! PM Stuart sent a mesaage if the shoe fits wear it!
@Miller
On second thoughts you may be correct.
@ Miller
Sheer brilliance.
As I read Caswell’s post the leper comment came to mind too. And David yes there is a parallel–the government at the time of the no confidence motion and the then AG Stuart’s comment was “dithering on the job” and still is.
@ David | March 11, 2012 at 7:52 AM |
” One of the criticisms level at Stuart who is minister in charge has been his reluctance to breathe fire on civil servants.”
If a man that was put in charge of a cabinet of 18 or 19 whippersnappers now behaving like unmanageable puppets in a comedy showcase cannot even motivate or discipline the rebellious eleven how can it be expected of that same man to bring pressure for change to an army of occupation insulated from any threat of removal from office or reduction in pay. But an incompetent general could only lead an army into battle if the required outcome is self annihilation as in the case of the Charge of the Light Brigade. Or for a more hilarious reference, like the comical exercise in futility by the grand old Duke of York.
yeah miller you could g…d d…mn bet that under the previous administration the hinchman ears would have been to the ground and the general in charge would have fired all the loafers he heard of , but PM Stuart should apologise for letting the loafers keep their jobs. Really !
More and more the Bush Tea argument is winning.
What is happening is just a merry go-around. A case of musical chairs.
@ ac | March 11, 2012 at 9:52 AM |
One is pleasantly surprised that you have not extended your “14 year rule” psychosis by claiming that OSA left a lot of plants to undermine the poor Stuart administration. Everything that is going wrong in the administration of the public sector and governance of this small island is entirely due to the shenanigans and wicked intentions of those civil servants who want to see your ‘can-do-no-wrong’ administration fail.
But ac, why blame the same people who helped to remove the last administration?
You only have to look in the cabinet and you would see the real termites that are undermining the same ‘wooden’ puppeteer.
Accepting that there are “only” 13 Marshals to issue the Court Documents how many does that work out each?
While Caswell’s point is taken,the offending statement by the PM jolted me back to an incident of tewnty five years ago.I searched for and found the document dated Feb.9th 1987.This is a document where a marshal of the court one Benjamin Payne stood before a Justice of the Peace and swore that he could not locate me,even though we frequented almost every rum shop in the village back then,and the same Benjamin Payne had sat at our table and shared in drink on more than one occasion.As my name was screamed from court’s top step a family friend called to inquire as to what business I had with the court? A subsequent investigation found that the person with whom I have my first child and this Benjamin Payne had conspired to have me locked up the week of my wedding.I still have that document,where in Mr.Payne’s own hand writing he committed perjury. One wonders if the Benjamin Payne mentioned in Caswell’s piece and the one from my bad experience is one and the same?Caswell you said name them and shame them,so here goes.
Prime Minister: Do the decent thing and resign, call elections or hand over the mantle .
When I saw the Headline PM mum on Clico or something to that effect , I thought that the PM’S MUM had something to say and not the PM –LOL !
It might be easier to get the PM ‘S MUM to say something than to get the PM to say something. Imagine the man aint saying nothing about Clico . The man just aint saying nothing at all
Prime Minister Freundel Stuart is making Prime Minister Erskine Sandiford (Sir Lloyd Erskine Sandiford) look like
Winston Churchill .
This Prime Minister is an enigma !
go figure !
David | March 11, 2012 at 3:11 PM | @Caswell In the interest of transparency you should declare if Unity Trade Union has an interest in this matter.
David
I am sorry: I should really have declared an interest. The offending article was drawn to my attention by one of the marshals who is a member of Unity Workers Union as early as 6:00 a.m. on the morning when it appeared. He actually woke me from a sound sleep. During the day, I received several other calls from marshals who were aggrieved by the PM’s remarks. I therefore wrote this post as the response my members could not make as public officers.
mr david, lest you forget that prime minister has been repeatedly accused of dithering on the job as well’ . hence the stone casting comment by Mr Miller might very well be appropriate.
Caswell
I believe that you got the interest of what affects the Barbadian society at heart but this time I am not going to agree with you on this one. The civil service is plaque with servants who have no real real moral duty or integrity. Many have become opportunistic and disgruntled and prefer to work less but expect to be paid more. I know that you will defend by indicating the interference that comes from the political directorate in matters for which they should not trespass. But be that as it may, I am sorry to say that the PM’s description is just a microcosym of what is a large slice of the non professional approaches of a wide segment of our civil service. However, I must say that since the PM has identify a specific symptom he cannot be exempt from the cause being a leading decision maker of government. He is very much a part of the blame then his identification of a symptom.
The civil service needs to rid itself of many who piggy back on a government purse and enjoy the free ride of hardly doing nothing but spend the majority of time doing something else other than they work.
Marston Gibson speaks of staggered appointments for judges to hear cases … no more everybody must turn up for 9:30. He speaks about “one case one Judge” so as to kill the adjournment culture, where Judges will not be so quick to allow an adjournment as the case will still wind up on his/her itinerary no matter the number of times it has been adjourned. He speaks about 65% of all cases going the root of arbitration and alternative punishment which requires the convicted person to work and pay off his debt thereby saving tax payers his accommodation costs at Dodds. The kick is that he claims that much of this is ALREADY being done in Trinidad and Jamaica … Our next door neighbors have already found solutions to our problems, and we the shites require that a man must come from New York to make this observation for us…!
Marston Gibson for Prime Minister …!
@Caswell
In the interest of transparency you should declare if Unity Trade Union has an interest in this matter.
You guys make me laugh.
Apologise for what is fact because one opines that all are painted with one brush.
Government spends over $800,000. for a 2-day visit by Royal reps and we are still paying 17.5% in VAT and no-one asked MOF to apologise and refund Bajans this money.
Byer-Suckoo has the gall to say if we didn’t do it Bajans would complain – no-one asked her to apologise to intelligent Bajans.
I lol at this post. How do I benefit by it especially in an election year, recession, apparent wage freeze and housing costs by Gov’t only suitable for earning $6,000.00 and over.
Let’s discuss these things.
Gibson says that he is open to the public. He has already received many many telephone calls and emails about cases that have spent to much time in the process. He says that a number of judges have already been called to account for the apparent time wasting. He says that he as a past Judge is accustomed to the process of assessment by a Chief and he will have absolutely no problem making judges absolutely accountable to the public. Gibson’s accent is very Barbadian… he is after all NOT a product of Crumpton Street or Waterford High, so there is absolutely no doubt that after over two and a half decades of life in a foreign country, he remains as grounded and civilian as the day he left.
Marston Gibson for Prime Minister …!
BAFBFP wrote “Gibson’s accent is very Barbadian… he is after all NOT a product of Crumpton Street.
wha shiite you writing doh?
I went to crumpton street, live in Canada fuh de las 36 years an still got muh Bajan accent.
All crumpton street boys doan emulate Tony Marshall.
An I remain as grounded and civil as the day I left.
I even went fishin dis mornin an gine eat cou cou fuh dinnah.lol
I expect the CJ to shake up the Judicial system in Barbados. The old Guard is on its last legs although there seems to be a reluctance on the part of Lawyers to retire at 65.
@Hants
You eating cou cou punna bright Sundee?
BAFBFP for the PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL
–a long long long stay too
@BAFBPF
Marston attended 6th Form in Crumpton Street. Is he worse off because you did not know this? Does this decrease his sincerity in your estimation?
To those who are not aware BAFBFP thrives on being a provocateur.
David wrote @Hants
You eating cou cou punna bright Sundee?
At my age (3 score) you eat what you want when you want unless you are in a hospital. lol.
BAFBFP thrives on being a provocateur and adds some spicy diversity to an otherwise politically centric blog.
Sunshine Sunny Shine | March 11, 2012 at 2:54 PM |
“The civil service is plagued with servants who have no real moral duty or integrity. Many have become opportunistic and disgruntled and prefer to work less but expect to be paid more.”
Wait!!! Is this the same Civil Service that the same PM sings it praises daily as if the sun shines from its rear end? Is this the same public sector that is the best in the region?
Is this the same army of occupation that the same PM is protecting from any retrenchment or lay offs at all costs? How fair it is for the private sector workers who produce the wealth and pay the taxes have to endure layoffs, dismissals and closures while this highly “productive and efficient” bureaucracy is insulated from the buffeting of the so-called recession. If this civil service is the bee’s knees of the Barbadian workforce then let them tell us why hundreds of millions of tax revenues remain uncollected while the political “mal-administrators” is ever so keen to impose more taxes on the productive sectors thereby stymieing growth and any chance of recovery from this long and battering hurricane of a recession now “growing” into a depression. Is it because of political interference, sometimes from the very top because of friends in high places on the cocktail circuit?
Wait Caswell, This the same man you said earlier this year is the best man to be PM and to lead this country?
By the way, next time you see the PM ask him what happen to the big promise he made to all mothers who have their children’s fathers in court? Did he not promise them in the St John by-election that he would mandate the government to pay the mothers when they go to the courts and there is no money lodged for them? When will the DEMS stop making promises that they know they cannot keep…… that is called deception in other words fooling the electorate.
Appollo 13 | March 11, 2012 at 7:55 PM | Wait Caswell, This the same man you said earlier this year is the best man to be PM and to lead this country?
Appollo 13
I never said Freundel was a great leader. I only stated my belief that despite his shortcomings, he is more suited to be prime minister than the competition. That might seem to be an endorsement of Freundel but I think that it suggest how poor the others are.
I read today’s lead story with amusement. Can you imagine our PM goes to a CARICOM meeting where CLICO is the main agenda item. The Judicial Manager his government appointed issued a report and this joker we have for a PM would go to this meeting to discuss CLICO and claims he has not seen the report from the JM. Would he go to court to fight a case and dont review all the evidence available? If the Nation has a copy of the report, how comes neither the PM or the North West Pitbull do not have one. Do any of us on the blog believe either of these two men?
This only goes to show that this government is NOT taking the policyholders seriously, it is like they (the DLP) hold this people with contempt. But then again, the man is his friend and he is not a leper.
@Apollo 13
Your logic is illusive in your last comment.
Sorry to be repeat my question but how many documents does each Marshal serve?
The active staff complement at the Court Process Office is meant to be 38 officers instead of the 13 actually in place.
I find it difficult to see how an organisation which is so far down on its proper complement can function.
Don’t get me wrong though, with the average efficiency of a Barbados public sector organisation I am more inclined to think that the planned staff number is way over what is required.
I think I saw from something Marston Gibson said that there were 400 new cases a year? Assuming 2 witnesses to be called to Court for each case that means just over 1 document to be served per Marshal per week.
I can’t believe that is correct and maybe I am looking at civil not criminal cases. Someone please prove to me that the Marshalls are overwhelmed with work.
@ Appollo 13 | March 11, 2012 at 8:20 PM |
“The Judicial Manager his government appointed issued a report and this joker we have for a PM would go to this meeting to discuss CLICO and claims he has not seen the report from the JM. Would he go to court to fight a case and dont review all the evidence available?”
This is an extremely dangerous sign.
One of the most dangerous situations to face is a person who lies without the “need to”. Everybody taking an interest in this CLICO affair is aware that the JM report is available. And for these two key players who allegedly were instrumental in the appointment of the same JM to deny seeing the report speaks volume of the type of people we have running our government.
Wake up people and smell the creeping stench!
On what basis can we suggest the PM and the MoF are lying?
Wouldn’t this be something which could be easily disproved if the report was delivered through the normal channels?
I know people who have seen the actual report. If they have seen it there is no excuse for the PM and the MoF not to have made it their business to get a copy to study. It may be true that they have’nt been provided an official copy by the Court but even that I find to be somewhat of a stretch. I don’t understand what they are trying to prove by insinuating that they have not seen the report. All they actually had to say was that they cannot comment on the report at this stage and not make themselves look more incompetent than they are.
@david
They’re not lying. They have not seen the “official” report.
Now, the question is, have they seen a copy, or more critically, given the EXTREME significance of some of its findings to the public, the legacy of DT, the fortunes of the party, the funding of their next electoral battle, and to the PEOPLE who they serve, have they REQUESTED a copy either through “official” or “unofficial” means? To not do so would speak as much volumes as allowing Parris to ‘run rampant”. Nuff said. Poor fellas, can’t seem to make a winning hand out of any that are dealt.
@Caswell Franklyn wrote “That might seem to be an endorsement of Freundel but I think that it suggest how poor the others are.”
What are the qualities in a Prime Minister that these men lack ?
Hants
Yah wonderful rash*le … ha ha ha … I mean that in a good way of course.
Now to any who would believe that two years at Crumpton Street would be enough to change a senior boy in any way, come on …! Neville Nicholls shared the stage with Gibson and the difference was stark … I have no stomach for the bore … he or Tooony Marshall!
Look the product of Crumpton Street and Waterford High have screwed this country shitless for the past fifty years and then some, both in private practice and in the public service. (St John, Arthur, Stuart and Simmonds are some of the very few exceptions that are part of the guilty crowd). For this observation I should be committed … talk about ad hominem
The Nation newspaper continues to be a letdown in its CLICO coverage. BU is doing a much better job of informing readers.Everyweek, the Nation publishing same one sided SH*TE from Pat Hoyos, Albert Branford, Peter Simmons and now the recycled and rehabilitated Ezra Alleyne.
Then the predictable one sided nonsense from Mascoll and the BLP campaign manager Sanka Price.
To think that Peter Simmons criticising the Advocate and CBC for not being fair. Funny, he never said that between 1994 -2008
Peter Simmons like the owner and editor of the Nation put the BLP first and their country second.
How else can you explain how no one from the DLP can get a column in the Nation but the BLP yardfowls there spinning every day. That is not fair and balanced jounalism. Shame on the Nation.
Pat Hoyos trying so hard to “kiss” Owen Arthur behind every Sunday in The Nation,I almost thought he was the “incoming chairman”.
Hoyos articles are a waste of space and time. He is too biased. His time could be better spent helping distribute the Plantation “free food for votes” in St. Michael South East to help his BLP inlaw who running up there.
If Hoyos and Price and the rest are so biased why do you even bother to read them …? Do you not know how stupid you sound man …? Do you find elevated blood pressures enticing ..?
@ Caswell .
It should be of interest to you and all interested persons that a recent trend has developed in the law courts for persons to offer to have summonses served EITHER BY THEMSELVES OR THROUGH A PAID WRIT SERVER. This practice has taken root because of the problem complainants have been experiencing in getting summonses served on defendants . This IS A FACT ; YOU MAY DO THE ANALYSIS .
@ David.
You may usefully redirect OFFENDING ‘S attention to the discussion we had on the laying of the report of the judicial managers . Were it served in THE APPROPRIATE MANNER , the discussion would not now be on the Prime Minister’s refusal to comment ON THE GROUNDS THAT HE HAS NOT YET SEEN IT . A PRIME MINISTER CANNOT BE EXPECTED TO RECEIVE A REPORT OF SUCH IMPORTANCE THROUGH AN UNOFFICIAL SOURCE . I believe enough has been said.
@ Checkit-Out | March 11, 2012 at 9:25 PM |
“I don’t understand what they are trying to prove by insinuating that they have not seen the report. All they actually had to say was that they cannot comment on the report at this stage and not make themselves look more incompetent than they are.”
This volte-face taciturn approach is in complete contradistinction to the frighteningly obsequious public testament that the Barbados CLICO business was financially sound and with an excellent management in place. So much faith and confidence was placed in this paragon of financial success that public assurances were given to the policyholders that there was nothing untoward to worry about and that the government would ‘indemnify’ the policy holders (at least up to the principal investment) should- by a freak chance of financial misfortune- the company runs into difficulties.
This unquestioning testament was so watertight it can be interpreted in the Court of Public Opinion that a verbal contract was being sealed by these multiple expressions of faith and a $10 million line of credit as consideration of the administration’s intention to conduct ‘legal relations’.
Now pray tell us the jury on what basis did those ‘testators and guarantors’ make these expressions of confidence and commitments? Did they rely on “OFFICIAL” audited financial statements? Did they rely on any “official” records, reports or recommendations issued by the Supervisor of Insurance? Did they rely on the annual report issued by the Board of Directors of CLICO Holdings Barbados? Or did they rely on the words emanating from the mouth of greenverbs in cameo appearances on TV. Or most plausibly, on the scheming soft words of close ‘butties’ over a bowl of soup in martins bay.
@An Observer
Surely you are aware that individuals will believe what they want despite the protocols needed. The CLICO given its emotive triggers can be blamed.
@nationblpnewspaper
What’s your view of the Advocate????
Sometimes the Marshalls get the wrong guy and it costs us the taxpayer!!
http://www.lawcourts.gov.bb/Lawlibrary/events.asp?id=787
Remember the article in the Nation about the mistaken identity.
Poor Mr. Ward was wrongfully arrested because he had the same first and second names as the wanted person ….. and he was treated badly.
@miller,
“Now pray tell us the jury on what basis did those ‘testators and guarantors’ make these expressions of confidence and commitments? Did they rely on “OFFICIAL” audited financial statements? Did they rely on any “official” records, reports or recommendations issued by the Supervisor of Insurance? Did they rely on the annual report issued by the Board of Directors of CLICO Holdings Barbados? Or did they rely on the words emanating from the mouth of greenverbs in cameo appearances on TV. Or most plausibly, on the scheming soft words of close ‘butties’ over a bowl of soup in martins bay.”……………..
miller,
The “testators and guarantors” were first class “bulshitters” and con artists. They had the knack of fooling people. Remember the lines…”follow me to Queen’s Park, I have a secret to reveal”…..This guarantee that CLICO was sound and well managed follows that pattern. It was just a gimmick and my feeling is that had the dead king lived, he would have done his utmost to conceal most of what is coming out. He tried to hide as much as he could until his dying day.
@millertheanunnaki | March 11, 2012 at 6:55 AM |
” One can be sure that the marshal was of the view that there is nothing wrong with drinking with a pal who is a delinquent father”
a delinquent father is a man who does not care if his child starves, has no protection over his head or even attends school. so ur saying that it is better to be a delinquent father than a low paid marshall? thank God my dad is not in that category
Caswell,
What has happened to Phase 2 of the Alexander issue which should have been done with haste???
@An Observer
Is this the link you are referring?
https://bajan.wordpress.com/2012/03/06/recent-financial-failures-in-the-caribbeanwhat-were-the-causes-and-what-lessons-can-be-learnt/#comment-424078
@ David
it is indeed David ! Thanks !!
@ Smooth Chocolate | March 12, 2012 at 3:59 PM |
” so ur saying that it is better to be a delinquent father than a low paid marshall? thank God my dad is not in that category”
Hi, Smoothie!
What can be said in response to you? Yes! Forgive me for not making it crystal clear that I was neither decrying and belittling your father’s fellow marshals neither was I upholding or glorifying the behaviour of delinquent fathers. Maybe you are not familiar with the use of irony and as a figure of speech or sarcasm as a style of writing.
Look beyond the superficial interpretation of the thread and you might just see the real target of my sarcasm and object of my fun-poking.
If you don’t get the ‘double entendre’ regarding the hypocrisy of the top man’s statement, then I might just have to “marshal” you back to ‘kollig’ to catch up with your “delinquent” learning.
You see what you Smooth Chocolate have made done? Prescribe a “brooklax” to remove that blockage in your intellectual system. Food for thought, would you say? (LOL!!!)
The dead king even tried to hide the fact that he was dying from us. And a lotta foolish pastors joined in the fraud, when it was clear to a blind man on a trotting horse that the grim reaper was standing right behind the half dead king.
Only Brother Georgie Porgie on this blog spoke the obvious truth.
Even Freundel Stuart “they did not teach us treachery at Foundation” joined in the pretence that the half dead king was going to make a comeback.
When it was clear to a 3 year old that the man was dying.
I am a bit concerned, so far there are 67 comments on this post and none even referred to the allegations of embezzlement of the money that was collected by a particular marshal who was not prosecuted but promoted instead. Similarly, there was no reference to the Chief Marshal returning a warrant and swearing that he could not find the person, while other marshals were able to find him.
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