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A supporter of Christopher 'Dudus' Coke holds a placard high as hundreds of demonstrators march along Spanish Town Road yesterday to demand that his extradition hearing be scrapped. – Jamaica Gleaner

The developing issue concerning Christopher ‘Dudus’ Coke in Jamaica makes for interesting discussion. Those following the story since it broke would be aware that the political career of Prime Minister Bruce Golding is seriously under threat over the matter. So far Prime Minister Bruce Golding has been forced to address the nation to explain his actions in the matter which was triggered by a US government request for the extradition of Christopher Coke; the other with the engagement of the US law firm of Manatt, Phelps & Phillips.

Some would say, to his credit, that Prime Minister Bruce Golding has not been afraid to confront the controversial issues. His earlier position on NOT appointing gays in his cabinet continues to reverberate in the global news space.  Not to forget his  perspective on the death penalty has also raised eyebrows. A pity more of our current crop of regional leaders have not demonstrated the gumption when confronted with the hard issues.

Several issues appear to be at play in the current issue involving Christopher ‘Dudus’ Coke and the embattled Jamaica Prime Minister Bruce Golding. The earlier link details Golding’s position on the matter. Golding’s willingness to challenge the validity of the US extradition order is worthy of note. Whether his latest position on the ‘Coke’ matter is based on a noble principle, time will tell.

Of interest to BU has been the reaction by the people from the village where Christopher ‘Dudus’ Coke is reported to reside. The decision by the Jamaican government to finally execute the US extradition order has provoked an interesting reaction by his neighbours which can be gleaned from the picture above. The rise of the ‘don culture’ in Jamaica is a matter of record. The fear of a similar culture taking root in Barbados would have informed the recent decision to ban Mavado and Vibes Kartel from performing in Barbados.   The ability to influence poor people by those in the drugs and gangster business in Jamaica provides terrific insight. When people feel marginalized by the legitimate institutions in a country, it will create a void for other elements to fill; in this case rogue elements.

The dent in its global image, Jamaica a tourist destination is taking over this incident, reinforces the critical importance of maintaining law and order to support a stable society. The resistance by those in the Barbados society who have become intoxicated by cultural relativism sweeping the world needs to be confronted by the might of home-grown value-based opinion. The Jamaican situation is a clear example of the social fallout which can occur when our legitimate institutions continue to fail the people. For too long Barbadians have been ignoring the weeds which have started to take root in our lawns.

Given all we have read and heard on the matter, the people from Coke’s village who have gone to the streets in protest have been scathing in their condemnation of both the government and opposition. Surely there are lessons to be learned for Barbados!


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301 responses to “Looking Behind The Christopher Dudus Coke Matter”

  1. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    Now I do not know much about these matters.

    But I just got this article from home via a friend who recieved it from a now elderly Jamaican man whom I heard preach in 74 when I was a student.

    I share it with you guys and you can decide if it has any worth.

    DUDUS
    IT’S NOT ABOUT COCAINE;

    , IT’S ABOUT OIL

    Tivoli Gardens is a manipulation
    To create the outrageous situation
    For a ‘legitimate’ American invasion

    Sugarcane, bauxite, tourism – all locked up tight
    Deep, deep oil – now seeing the light
    Poverty and oppression – things still not right
    Freedom from Babylon – bubbling into sight

    Politicians in power – caught in a trap
    Reaching for gold – can’t give it back
    Jamaica’s new wealth – Babylon wants to tap
    Satellite blackmail – no stopping that

    Heart of the people – under attack
    600 years – it’s time to end that
    One Love’s in play – Bob’s watching fast
    Soul of Jamaica – Freedom at last

    …Nyahbinghi Guard Dog

    As the Dudus saga plays itself out in Kingston, two of the questions that remain unanswered are ‘why is the United States pushing so hard?’ and ‘why now?’ The world is full of dons and drug lords, not to mention the fact that the American plate is full with wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and a billion Muslims who are being encouraged to attack anywhere at anytime. You would think that they had more immediate things to concentrate on.

    Yet they continued to poke and push, treating every Jamaican that went through U.S. customs like a criminal, openly questioned the personal honesty of the Prime Minister Bruce Golding and even suggested that the Jamaican Labor Party were in violation of their mandate to govern Jamaica. In fact, the Americans haven’t even got an Ambassador to Jamaica anymore.

    Obama has left the position open, a serious diplomatic slap in the face. All of this tension is for the Don of Tivoli Gardens? Something isn’t right. Dudus just isn’t that big of a problem.

    The idea that outside interests have manipulated the situation for a long time begins to form when you question the truth of what we are being told. For two years now Dudus has had an excellent run, controlling the docks in Kingston (on Tivoli Gardens turf, and the true value of the constituency) with his buddies running the government.

    He has grown more powerful than ever before, with so much money that he doesn’t have to rely on politicians for anything. In the old days back in the 1970’s, when the street gangs were first created by the political parties, they had to get their weapons and cash from the JLP or the PNP, but since the cocaine business showed up, that relationship has slowly turned full circle.

    Now the politicians need the gangs to control the vote, but the gangs don’t need the politicians for support. They have become an independent power.

    The outside control in this is that the international cocaine business is not run by Jamaicans. Nobody manufactures coke on the island, it all comes in from South America, mostly Colombia.

    Somebody else determines how much of their product is moved through Jamaica, which in turn determines how much money ends up in the hands of the gangs. Dudus is more powerful than ever before because whoever is controlling The Business decided that he would make him powerful.

    In fact, it looks like they wanted him to become a ‘threat to national security’, and be such a handful that outside military assistance might be necessary.

    Since the Iran-Contra hearings in the United States in the early 1980’s, the world has known that the biggest player in the illegal drug business is the U.S. military. The enormous wealth involved is enough to weaponize entire armies of ‘insurgents’, which are then used to destabilize any country they choose.

    They have the best killers, the best weapons and the best intelligence, and it’s all in cash. No records. There are American military troops on the ground in Colombia and Afghanistan, by far the largest producers of cocaine and heroine respectively. This is no accident.

    So it isn’t a stretch to consider the idea that growing Dudus into a serious problem was a manipulation that was within the control of U.S. interests.

    But why flare it up now, and why so hard? They could have cranked up the tension any time they wanted during the past year.

    What is America up to that they are forcing a dangerous situation, totally ignoring the fact that by doing so, there is a very good chance that war will erupt all over Jamaica, and innocent people will be killed?

    Why would the United States want Jamaica to descend into chaos now?

    One idea that comes to mind is oil. Try this one on for size – although Jamaica has never produced a single drop of oil, has no wells, no rigs, no infrastructure, the Minister of Mining and Energy, James Robertson, spent March, 2010 in England, and April, 2010 in the United States, presenting ‘Jamaica’s Second Formal Licensing Round 2010’, billed as ‘New Prospects, New Opportunities’, to the Geological Society of England and the American Association of Petroleum Geologists.

    The agendas for these meetings are on the Petroleum Corporation of Jamaica’s website.

    He reviewed the new seismic data just before the first coffee break at 10:00 am, and the bid procedures info around 11:30, just before the lunch break, and in between talked about the investment climate in Jamaica. He was in New Orleans during the second week of April, and was in Texas at the end of the month.

    By May 22nd, just three weeks after showing all of this data to the oil executives in the States, Jamaica found itself suddenly on the verge of crisis, and American military personnel were seen landing at Manley International in Kingston.

    The next day, May 23rd, the Prime Minister of Jamaica, Bruce Golding, went on national television to declare a state of emergency.

    Add to this the fact that the Government of Jamaica signed a new $1.27 billion US ’27 Month Standby Agreement’ with the International Monetary Fund for balance of payment support in February, 2010, and a different set of motivators enter the picture. Less than a month later the Jamaican Minister of Mining and Energy is out pimping a non-existent oil industry to England (controls the IMF) and the United States (controls the World Bank).

    The per capita debt burden of Jamaica is the 4th highest in the world. Over 50% of the Capital Expense Budget goes to servicing the debt. PM Golding has an impossible situation on his hands – he has to somehow find a way to impose financial discipline enough to keep up with the payments, but he has no way to build economy with what he has now. A Jamaican oil industry would help him out big time.

    However, the real trick is going to be the fine print of that IMF restructuring agreement. This same ploy was used on Argentina to force them to sell off State owned assets to raise the cash to pay the debt, which ended up with a Spanish oil company,

    Resopl YPF (odd in the fact that Spain has no oil, but is really a front for BP), owning all of the rights to Argentina’s oil. Later is was discovered that there are reserves of around 500 billion barrels just off the coast of the Falkland Islands. Argentina does not own it’s oil because of IMF debt restructuring rules.

    So in February Jamaica signs a new IMF debt restructuring package, and in March the Mining and Energy Minister is in England presenting new seismic data and bidding instructions on an industry that doesn’t exist, and in April he’s doing the same thing in the United States, which is about the time the Deep Horizon oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico exploded.

    Three weeks into May, Kingston has been transformed into a war zone by unrelenting and unexplained American pressure, which includes American military on the ground.

    Hmmm. Three weeks after showing the data to the Americans, there are armed U.S. troops on the ground in the capital city.

    The Deep Horizon might have something to do with that. One of the facts that CNN doesn’t talk about much is that BP was drilling way, way deeper than anybody knew.

    The deepest working oil well on earth is around 20,000 feet, but six months ago the Deep Horizon drilling tapped 35,000 feet when they had some sort of ‘catastrophic event’, which ended when they sealed it up and left things alone.

    They were drilling again at 30,000 feet when the explosion happened. Outside of the rule breaking, they proved that the technology exists to go almost twice as deep as any working well, which means that they can now access oil that was once thought to be unattainable, in places that have never produced oil before.

    In October, 2008, Cuba announced to the world that they had new seismic data which doubled the size of their offshore reserves to 20 billion barrels of oil. That’s as much as the United States has with 3.5 million square miles of territory. Cuba is around 42,000 square miles. Whatever oil they found, it’s a deep, deep reservoir.

    In 2007, Cupet (Cuba) and PdVSA (Venezuela) signed an agreement to jointly explore Cuba’s offshore areas. A consortium of Resopl YPF (Spanish BP 40% and operator), Norsk Hyrdro (Norway 30%) and ONCG Videsh (India 30%) announced that they would begin to drill an offshore exploratory well in 2010, and in 2009, Cuba signed exploration agreements with Zarubzhnieft (Russia), and Petrobras (Brazil) completed seismic work on Block 37.

    At the end of 2008, Cuba announced to the world that it was sitting on 20 billion barrels of oil, the 12th largest deposits among countries, and that it was involved in developing it with Venezuela, Russia, Spain, Norway and India. Cuba is about 70 miles from Jamaica.

    If you stand on the top of the Blue Mountains and look north, you can see the lights in Cuba. If they have oil that deep, you can bet that Jamaica has oil that deep, and Haiti, and the Domincan Republic.

    That earthquake in Haiti last January was suspicious from the start, but the ‘over the top’ response from the United States might now make sense. The American military controls Haiti.

    The foreign assistance was an army of occupation. This week they landed in Jamaica.

    The bidding process for the contracts to develop these new Jamaican oil fields are in play right now. An armed foreign military in the middle of your capital city is a very powerful negotiating tool, and that brand new $1.27 billion IMF loan restructuring came with some nasty conditions, and that runaway well is pumping out an enormous amount of oil, which is going to raise a few questions about just how much oil is down that deep and when can the rest of the world start drilling for it?

    Jamaica needs an oil industry before it can sell it to the Americans to pay off the debt. That’s why the IMF and the World bank were created to begin with, to manipulate poor countries into such an enormous debt load that they would have to sell off their natural resources and utilities to pay it. This is the plan in action.

    The cat jumped out of the bag before the deal was done when that well exploded, but now it’s living proof of the size of the discovery, which is apparently big enough to destroy all life on the planet if BP can’t figure a way to shut it down. That’s a lot of oil.

    America wants to wrap this one up fast. For 600 years they’ve taken all of the wealth from sugarcane and fruit. For the past 70 years they’ve taken all of the wealth from bauxite and alumina. For the past 40 years they’ve taken all of the wealth from tourism.

    Jamaicans live in poverty because vampires from Babylon have been sucking it dry since Chrisopher Columbus sailed by on his way to discovering America. Imagine the palace that Jamaica could have become if all of that wealth had stayed on the island.

    Now more money is in play than all of that combined. Black Gold. Texas Tea. The Devil’s Blood. One of the largest oil deposits ever discovered. This whole Dudus soap opera is really just a manipulation to create a situation where America can get their hands on Jamaican oil, which most Jamaicans don’t even know about.

    Bablyon has come calling because it wants something, not because it cares about saving Jamaican lives or locking up a bad man. This is the same country that thought up slavery, and then did it for 400 years because it made them rich.

    If America is involved, you know it’s about money.

    The only solution is probably impossible. Every single Jamaican has to ask themselves if they love Jamaica enough to make peace with each other. This attack is on Jamaica, not Jamaicans.

    They are just the victims, but the oil the Americans want is as much a part of the island as the snow white sand, the swaying palm trees, the spectacular ganja or the incredible reggae.

    This trick works only if Jamaicans battle with each other. If America can somehow manage this flare up to get a military presence on the island, they will control the oil.

    The only path out is for each person to raise his spiritual consciousness to the point where they are prepared to forgive and make peace with their brothers and sisters. Only Jamaicans can do what is necessary. They are the living, breathing soul of Jamaica, and it is up to them to stand as one and shout out ‘No More!’.

    If they don’t then Babylon will crush them down like never before.

    This isn’t about JLP, and PNP, and Posse’s, and Matthew’s Lane, or Rema, or Tivoli Gardens, or Dudus, or running the docks, or selling cocaine. It’s about manipulating all of that so Jamaicans see each other as the enemy, and keep warring. It’s about Babylon stealing the Big Money while Jamaicans fight like dogs over the Little Money.

    There are at least 50 Garrisons in Jamaica, with 16 in Spanish Town alone. There are around 20 Posse’s affiliated with the JLP, maybe 30 affiliated with the PNP, and at least 30 Posse’s that are ‘unaligned’ and can be hired when needed. It’s an unstable combination that is designed to break down and destroy.

    Dudus and the others like him have been played like a piano. They are the perfect excuse for American military intervention, ‘one of the world’s most powerful drug lords’, according to CNN …over and over and over again.

    The reality is that the DEA estimates the total cocaine volume through Jamaica each year at 100 metric tonnes, which is worth $25,000 per kilo if it’s sold in North America. About $2.5 billion US.

    The estimated world total consumption of illegal drugs is $400 billion a year. The cocaine going through Jamaica is worth about half of one percent of the market. Nobody in Jamaica is in the top 200, let alone one of the most powerful.

    The oil deal can alleviate all of the debt, all of the poverty, all of the illiteracy, all of the hunger, for every Jamaican on the island …forever.

    The palace that Jamaica was intended to be can be built, but Bablyon knows it, and has no interest in seeing the island become strong and independent. Then Jamaica might turn into a Dudus themselves, powerful enough to stand up and say ‘No More! What’s ours is ours, and we’re keeping it this time.’

    The only way out of this trap is peace. How’s that for a Babylon trick?

    This could also be the work of Jah, forcing the right kind of threat into action so that the spiritual consciousness of every Jamaican shakes itself awake and realizes that they are blessed to be born at this time, that they are warriors who have been forced to endure the humiliations of poverty and oppression so that when the time came they had a voice and were aware, and would raise their game to the level required to finally free themselves of Babylon.

    Right now might be the most pivotal time in the entire history of Jamaica. Not 1834 and the end of slavery, not 1962 and Independence, not 1981 with the death of the Prophet Robert Marley, but 2010 and the discovery of oil, the point in time the future generations of Jamaican children will always remember as either the greatest of achievements or the worst of failures, when their parents and grandparents faced the demon straight on and decided what the future of Jamaica would be.

    Simply put, are Jamaicans strong enough to forgive each other the past, in return for a better future? If they can, they win BIG. More wealth than anyone ever thought possible. If they can’t, then their children, and their children, and their children, will be doomed to the same vicious cycle of poverty, violence and oppression.

    Are Jamaicans strong enough to fix this? Do they love their children enough to accept the responsibility to give up their claim to vengeance, so that their children can live free of the burden?

    It’s all on the line right now. That’s why America is pushing so hard.

    On May 25th, a Jamaican born Congresswoman in the United States, Yvetee Clark, was on the front pages in both countries, saying that she was going to seek the help of the U.S. State Department to restore peace and stability in Jamaica. A State of Emergency had been declared for less than 48 hours and already ‘Jamaica’s best friend in the U.S. Congress’ was calling for the release of American soldiers on Jamaican soil to kill Jamaicans. Nice.

    We are looking at the beginning of an American military occupation of Jamaica. Once they get control of the oil and begin to invest billions to develop it, the term ‘Strategic Resource’ will apply, which also means ‘vital to U.S. national security interests’, which will require U.S. military bases to protect it. Think Iraq.

    This is part of the militarization of the Caribbean. It started in Haiti after the earthquake in January and it has reached Jamaica by May. With WWIII looming in the Middle East, America is going to need new sources of oil, and with the Russians, Spanish, Venezuelans, Norwegians and India already active off of the coast of Cuba, they are playing catch up in Jamaica.

    What is at stake is enormous – a change in the balance of power among the nations of the world. Done right, Jamaica will rise up. Done wrong, Jamaica will drop to it’s knees and beg forever.

    With that much money in play the corruption of politicians will be child’s play. This gambit is for the sovereignty of the country. It has little or nothing to do with gangs, cocaine, ganja, guns, violence or even Dudus. It is all about oil, soldiers and America taking it all …again.

    Babylon is back on the island, and the only thing that will make it leave is love. One Love. Remember the Prophet. He saw this coming 30 years ago and drove himself to death to make sure that when the time came, Jamaicans would have the tools necessary to finally defeat the bastards in Babylon. Now is that time. One Love. I and I.

    Free yourselves. Free Jamaica. Stop the fighting. Don’t give them the excuse they want. One Love wins this war, once and for all. Freedom is 35,000 feet straight down, and all you need is love. Stop the fighting.

    Why is America pushing so hard? You know. Look at the timeline.

    1) October 2008 – Cuba announces reserves are now double previous estimates.
    2) January 2010 – Haiti earthquake. American military build up in Caribbean.
    3) February 2010 – Jamaica signs $1.27 billion debt restructuring agreement with IMF.
    4) March 2010 – Jamaican Minister of Mining and Energy presents ‘Second Formal Licensing Round 2010’ seminars in London, England, new seismic data and bid procedures to Geological Society of England.
    5) April 2010 – Jamaican Minister of Mining and Energy presents ‘Second Formal Licensing Round 2010’ seminars in New Orleans and Houston, new seismic data and bid procedures to the American Association of Petroleum Geologists.
    6) April 20, 2010 – Gulf of Mexico oil rig explosion.
    7) April 2010 – American pressure on Jamaican government over extradition of Dudus escalates to red zone.
    8) May 22, 2010 – American military personnel seen landing at Manley International in Kingston.
    9) May 23, 2010 – State of Emergency declared by Prime Minister of Jamaica.
    10) May 25, 2010 – American Congresswoman born in Jamaica calls for U.S. State Department intervention to stop the violence in Kingston.

    In just over a year from Cuba announcing to the world that there are huge oil reserves deep under the Caribbean, events unfold that result in an American military build up on Haiti, the island closest to Cuba.

    In less than 30 days since signing the IMF debt restructuring agreement, Jamaica has to present their ‘non-existent yet’ oil industry to the people who control the IMF and World Bank, and offer a bid process.

    In less than 30 days after presenting this data in the United States, the Dudus extradition conflict is escalated and Jamaica is destabilized.

    You do the math. What do you think?

    Is Dudus just a pawn, nurtured to become the perfect excuse to provide the necessary conditions for the presence of heavily armed American soldiers, on the ground in the capital city at the same time as the most important contracts in the history of Jamaica are open for bidding, immediately after the government restructures a $1.27 billion US debt package with the IMF, who has always used that situation to strip away a country’s control of it’s own natural resources and utilities, just as the United States is mobilizing to engage in a war with the Middle East and will need to guarantee themselves some new supplies of oil?

    Does that sound possible?

    Every Jamaican involved in this conflict has to stop fighting if they are going to save their oil wealth. The gangs, the leaders, the constables, the military, the politicians, the people. They need to begin a process of reasoning to avoid the trap set by Babylon.

    America is good at this. They’ve done it before.

    Stop the fighting. Save your oil. Change your world. This time, Jamaicans can control Babylon.


  2. biggest drug smugglers in the world = CIA
    biggest cocaine market in the world = USA
    Super cat- nuff don
    One man does not make a cocaine industry


  3. @Georgie Porgie…

    Just wondering…

    Is it possible for you to get your point across without consuming 3807 words?

    I can sometimes get my point across with as few as one word….

  4. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    I understand that you are dyslexic
    I know that you are an irritant and fairly ignorant

    Read the article again and you will see that I have just copied and posed something sent to me.

    Is there nothing that can be done to inprove the function of your frontal lobe?


  5. Boogie Down Productions – Illegal Business [Track 4 album- BY ALL MEANS NECESSARY]

    [krs-one]

    Cocaine business controls America
    Ganja business controls America
    KRS One come to start some hysteria
    Illegal Business controls America

    {*dj scratches “what can we get for 63 cents? “*}

    More lyrics: http://www.lyricsfreak.com/b/boogie+down+productions/#share


  6. @ Georgie Porgie
    Very interesting analysis of the situation in Jamaica.


  7. @Georgie Porgie: “Is there nothing that can be done to inprove the function of your frontal lobe?

    No.


  8. @GP, Interesting analysis, funny that you posted this, a couple of days ago the same thing crossed my mind, that Cuba only recently discovered a large oilfield, thus maybe , with Jamaica adjacent….

    Further, with Brazil also discovering the second largest reserves (I think), one must look where one has not looked before…i.e. off Jamaica is good, note that Cayman Islands etc are fairly shallow.

    That said, I still stick with Bruce Golding exhibiting control, that way, we do both i.e. attempt to return to a semblance of order AND exhibit that the Government is in control without sigining everything over elsewhere.

    By the way…how about Barbados…East Coast?


  9. By the way, next time you are in Cattlewash, check the rock formations.

    That is NOT just limestone nor clay. Sedimentary layers maybe, but just look at the nature of the rock and tell me what you think.


  10. Does anyone have a clue as to what is being said here. One guy prints over 3,000 words and still explains nothing, another one rhymes off some reggae rant and others wonder what role Babylon plays in Western society. How does any of this address the volatile situation in Jamaica? Why doesn’t everyone blame it on George Bush? The bottom line to all this is not the necessity of oil of rather a society’s reluctance to adopt a civilized life style. Is money the root of all evil or is the lack of money the root of all evil? Regardless there is a culture in Jamaica that has no reverance for the sanctity of life…the trigga have no heart.
    In respect to the comment made about the “suspicious timing of the Haiti earthquake” is that statement implying that it was America’s fault?
    Hey Jamaica look in the mirror. When you get what you want in your struggle for self and the world makes you king for a day, just go to a mirror and look at yourself and see what “THAT MAN” has to say. Mirrors do not lie, one had better hope that the mirror does not laugh.
    straighten your government out and develope some self esteem rather than taking the easy route expecting a hand out.

    Dave from Canada and Negril.


  11. @Dave from Canada and Neril…

    LOL….


  12. @GP
    To think that a person with your”Intelligence” would post such piece of garbage. I wonder why? Even Dave begining to make more sense!


  13. dude on bike ain’t got no following here
    The Velvet Shadows Babylon A Fall Down

  14. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    Crusoe
    By the way, next time you are in Cattlewash, check the rock formations.

    That is NOT just limestone nor clay. Sedimentary layers maybe, but just look at the nature of the rock and tell me what you think.

    Between Bath & Conset Bay you will see certain formations in the soil. Colin Hudson used to say on the National Trust walks there that Barbados used to paint the world black from a substance obtained therefrom Apoparently the first Model T Ford s were painted with material from this source. But the “mining” of this oily material was stopped when cheaper material was found.

    Colin used to lament that in Barbados we never seek to niche market or products, and that when we enciunter obstacles we quit. Apparently we were into shipping bananas to the UK before the Windwards. We were into shippng aloes for which the proper name is aloe Barbadiense………..and we can go on.


  15. @GP,

    Yes, the old history books noted that ‘manjack =’ was mined in the East, I suppose a pitchlike substance for road-mending.

    Secondly, to me the rock formations in the area are layered and among those, is what looks like a type of iron ore or iron oxide.

    Quite interesting as to source?


  16. @Georgie Porgie……thank you for posting that article @ June 2, 2010 at 5:19 PM. Now it brings everything into focus. And for all the JACKASSES on this blog talking shite bout Jamaica needs education take a good, long, hard look in the mirror and see if they have not used your so-called ‘education’ to wash your damn brains!

  17. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    Hopi
    I am now ascertaining that the article was written by none other than fellow Bajan Ellombe Mottley


  18. Ref commentJune 2/2010 /5.19 p.m.

    iS Dudus just a pawn nurtured to become the perfect excuse to provide necessary conditions for the presence of heavily Armed American soldiers.

    Well it is more than 2 wks since the civil unrest in Jamaica .

    Where are these heavily armed American soldiers in Jamaica? Another piece of conspiracy hog wash.


  19. Here is the original document posted by GP above.


  20. @BU.David: “Here is the original document posted by GP above.

    I consider this to be a reasonable and legitimate question…

    Why are you, empirically, so *very* supportive of Dr. Georgie Porgie Pudding and Pie?


  21. Another article on the history of the Jamaica Shower Posse that has some similarity to Elombe’s article above

    http://newsone.com/world/casey-gane-mccalla/how-the-cia-created-the-jamaican-shower-posse/


  22. @David

    I was waiting to see if this would come out right, but it did not. The article was not written by Elombe but was posted on facebook by him. This is his opening to the article:

    The real reason why Americans are in Jamaica
    Posted: 2010-06-02 – 9:28am

    Dear Friend

    Below you are going to read a very interesting perspective on what is going on in Jamaica . Some of you may have read John Perkins “Confessions of an Economic Hit-man”. Those of you who have not should endeavour to do so. It is available on Amazon. I am going to follow this email with a number of emails from my archives. I will also give you references to some of the “facts” raised by the article. By the way, if you click on the last photo it will take you to the original website which you will find interesting. I also believe that if this article is true, it will also have implications for Barbados and the Eastern Caribbean .

    I don’t know who wrote the article, but in light of what is happening in Jamaica and the USA , we should think on these things.

    Finally, this does not absolve the Jamaica Government and the society from the high levels of corruption. Read on

    Elombe


  23. BTW, the reference Elombe made to the “Economic Hit-man”: If anybody saw the documentary Zeitgeist (I think part 2 – The Addendum), he is featured there. He speaks about Jamaica and how Manley lost to Seaga. He also revealed info about Venezuela, Panama, Vietnam and a few other clandestine CIA operations, going back as far as Kennedy.


  24. I personally do not blame music [such as rap,reggae,doo wap etc] for this gangster phenomena,
    Al Pacino Scarface has a lot to answer for though..


  25. Checkit-out link also makes a lot of sense. The author “Gary Webb” was also murdered by the ‘beast’ because he knew too much.

    For those who haven’t read Perkins’ “Economic Hitman” it isn’t worth a dime. Perkins did not reveal any secrets. He did not tell you about the dastardly deeds he committed in the name of ‘Empire.’ What he wrote is public information. So his book is nothing to shout about. If you want to read it go to the library.


  26. @Hopi: “The author “Gary Webb” was also murdered by the ‘beast’ because he knew too much.

    Imagine, if you can, knowing that your work might kill you.

    Would you, instead, run to safety?


  27. @CH………….What does your nit-picking question have to do with the death of Gary Webb?


  28. @Hopi…

    I’m interested. OK?


  29. @Hopi…

    Answer the question.

    Or stand down…

    Or kill me….


  30. @CH……….”or kill me” ——–Can you suggest the most painful way to acquire such a virtual feat?


  31. @Hopi: “Can you suggest the most painful way to acquire such a virtual feat?

    For you, or me?


  32. @CH…………..oh lawd. I always knew that ‘your elevator didn’t go all the way up.’

    For you mon cher, for you!


  33. @Hopi: “oh lawd. I always knew that ‘your elevator didn’t go all the way up.’

    And I’ve always known that you’re dumber than bricks…

    Love you. Take care….


  34. @CH……..One thing I know about bricks is that they are NOT dumb [so thanks for the compliment]. Try kicking one with brute force or better yet with that anthropomorphic head of yours and see if it doesn’t kick you right back in the arse.

    No testicular fortitude whatsoever! But I would NEVER kill you for that.

    So you take care too, MON CHER!


  35. @Hopi…

    LOL (Lots Of Laughter)…

    If nothing else, the one thing I have learnt here on BU is it is healthy to fight amongst the family members…

    …so the family members are well prepared and practised to fight against less friendly adversaries…

    I sincerely wish you well this night, this weekend, this year, and forever.

    I look forward to fighting with you again in the future — both against and beside….


  36. CH……Merci beacoup mon cher!


  37. OK everybody let’s stop and take a breather here. It’s time to regroup and think…and not with your heart but with your brain. Let’s not get emotionally charged over a situation that can only be rectified by using common sense.
    First of all nobody is looking to reinstate slavery because in actuality it was never abolished, just given a different name…tax payer. And slavery is not prejudice it impounds everyone of every colour and culture not just the white and black race. Slavery is about classism, class warfare and unless one is filthy rich their existence will be in bondage. A rich man’s hell is a poor man’s heaven; what the rich discards we find a need for. Obama and his wife prefer “black sturgeon” caviar as an appetizer at $150.00 per table spoon and at the expense of the tax paying slaves. Imagine how many people can be fed if the Obama’s forfiet their appetite for caviar?
    Billions of $$$’s in foreign aid to Jamaica and yet the poor remain ubiquitous while government officials enjoy the luxury of BMW’s and travel abroad.
    While fueling my motorcycle at the Texaco in Negril a few years ago an elderly lady needed to have her tire inflated. I told her to sit in her car and I would take care of it. After inflating the tire and checking the others I told her she was good to go. She pulled out 500J and handed it to me. I was shocked a bit as this is not my custom but had realized that this IS the custom in Jamaica or any other third world country for that matter. Nothing is done out of the good of someone’s heart, it’s always about money and survival. This is what she was accustomed too. I told her to keep her money and have a nice day.
    The point I’m making here is that if third world countries are going to advance they need to educate themselves in a manner that will help them compete on the world stage today. Handouts are demeaning and do nothing to advance an individual or a nation. Life is about self sufficiency not perpetual handouts…it does nothing for the pride.
    Jamaica and countries alike must put an end to the despotism that rules their lives and look at education as their means of liberation. The only darkness is ignorance. It’s time to get out of the darkness. Pushing drugs for a living may appear glamorous but in the end the ugliness reveals itself in the form of destruction both socially and individually.

    Dave from Canada and Negril


  38. BU it is with great interest that I read the comments posted in your “tell it like it is” forum. Everyone and anyone has the opportunity to vent, inform or whine to the entire world.
    With a forum such as yours there is no shortage of perspective, some informative, some questionable and many misguided. The positive point here is that at least people are contributing their philosophy and not complaining under their breath. Similar to the concept of voting which is if you don’t vote you have no right to complain, so to is the purpose of voicing your opinion, if you don’t make your voice heard how will anyone hear you? How will things ever change if ideas aren’t made public? How will your neighbor know for sure that you wish to live in peace if you refuse to voice your position against unrighteousness? In respect to neighbor I am referring to the term in a global sense not just the local neighborhood.
    Last year, March 25th 2009, I noticed an American battleship off the shore at Montego Bay but never in my 20years in Jamaica have I seen American soldiers walking the turf of the island.
    I am going down for 5-6 weeks to do some filming and I’m going to see if the claim made by AC in respect to U.S. soldiers walking the island are valid. Rumours are a catalyst to violence and the perpetrators of violence are usually misguided followers that fell victim to left wing dogma. The exageratted rhetoric that emanates from the pie holes of these sheep hearders is mearly a tactic to controll the sheep and everyone knows where the sheep are headed…first the wool that covers their bodies and then after they’ve nothing left to give “rack of lamb”… beware the sheep hearder. A left wing liberal government is just that a sheep hearder.
    Seek the light and free yourself from darkness. Pay no attention to those who promise you that which is the property of others. Don’t expect half of what you did not work for. Resurrect the pride that comes with earning a living and not from begging for a handout. Most important disregard the malevolent teachings of Marcus Garvey for they are corrosive and do nothing to promote healing and unity.
    Now about the geographic origin of the Caribbean Islands…ahhh we’ll leave that for another day.

    Dave from Canada and Negril.
    again…peace and love.


  39. thanks for your unformation…


  40. @Dave

    If you can read clearly you would see my comments were made in refernce to what another person said.


  41. My apologies AC if I misread something that seemed evident.
    I’m so accustomed to people back peddaling on issues that they’ve so adamantly supported until a more practical sollution reveals itself.

    Dave…Maple Leaf and Sugar Cane.


  42. 66 years ago today  over 125,000 men gave their lives without hesitation in defence of a cause that placed the standards of freedom and liberty to a benchmark in humanity.
    So profound is the paradigm that even today there is much to learn about selflessness, giving, ingenuity, compassion and God.
    For our family member’s to storm ahead into a hail of bullets and forge ahead into the unknown, in the interest of self preservation for not only themselves but for all of humanity, sends a message loud and clear to the world about Western society…we will fight and if need be die to preserve our “inalienable rights”.
    To all those honorable souls and to all those still with us I thank you with all my heart…and…I thank you again.
    Being Canadian we were on Juno.
    Dave from Canada and Negril


  43. If there was ever a horrid spectacle amid media reporters in the White House I must say it would be Helen Thomas. I’ve never judged a person’s character by their physical appearance but today, the day after her snide and cruel perspective re. Israel I will say…Helen, your heart is as stone cold ugly as your face. My Grandmother was a Polish Jew and the only place for her in Poland was Aushwitz. Thak God she did not go back.
    On a positive note at least we don’t have to look at you or listen to you any more. Ya ya ya and the whiners can call me whatever they wish…I do not care. A person’s ugliness is revealed through their thoughts and actions and the ugliest of them all were the tyrrants of the Third Reich. Hitler’s henchmen were stone cold ugly Helen.

    Dave Canada and Negril with Peace and Love


  44. Jamaican ‘drugs lord Christopher "Dudas" Coke captured’

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    Christopher "Dudas" Coke is wanted in the US

    Police in Jamaica say they have captured suspected drugs lord Christopher "Dudas" Coke on the outskirts of the capital Kingston.

    The Jamaican government wants to extradite Mr Coke to the US to face charges of drug and gun trafficking.

    Attempts to capture him in May led to clashes which killed scores of people.

    Mr Coke, 41, is accused of being the leader of the notorious Shower Posse, which US authorities say operates an international drugs and guns network.

    The gang has also been blamed for numerous murders in Jamaica and the US.

    Police said Mr Coke had been captured in the Portmore area of St Catherine Parish, Reuters reported.

    There were no immediate reports of violence during the capture.

    The Jamaica Observer said Mr Coke was being held at Spanish Town police station which was surrounded by soldiers.

    The operation to capture Mr Coke last month centred on his stronghold in Kingston’s Tivoli Gardens.

    More than 70 people were killed in gun battles between police and armed young men.


  45. May Mr Coke live long enough to reveal the secret formula of his success.

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