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climate-changeThe 64th Session of the UN General Assembly began with the issue of climate change, followed by the G-20 Meeting in Pittsburgh where world leaders work to put together a framework for tackling this issue as doing โ€œNOTHINGโ€ could be disastrous.

For most people today, the issues and discourses on climate change is a parody of scientific gobbledegook where proponents like Nobel Prize winner and former Vice-President of the United States Al Gore, uses this agenda as a big stick to beat world leaders, institutional heads and public sectors officials into the looming dangers we face as a planet, if these issues are not tackled immediately.

Barbados is not exempt from the effects of this emergent global phenomenon which has been with us for over 20 years.ย  Since the years of the oil boom and the mass globalization of what many sociologists have termed the McDonaldization of society or as Davis, Baudrillard et al called the era of โ€œhyper-realityโ€ we have seen climate change climb to the top of the global agenda.

This is a period in earthโ€™s history, where the pace of economic and technological development has not kept pace with ecological sustainability and the rapid pace of change is creating imbalances within our planet. These forces are both structural and aesthetic.

The planetary earth science issues and its effects on climate change affect our atmosphere, weather, geology and oceanography. Our environment is being hard done by acid rain, air pollution resulting in poor air quality, drought, global warming, hazardous waste, melting ice caps, ozone holes, carbon pollution, recycling and waste, a lack of renewable energies, and ecological instability.

The end-result is that our ecosystems is under threat, our energy reserves depleting, disappearing rain forests, slash and burn of our grasslands, invasive hybrid species, environmentally destructive mining, disappearing tundra, water depletion and increased wildfires due to dry, arid conditions and a host of environmental pollutants seeping into our ecology creating cancers and all kinds of weird diseases.

These insidious conditions have exacerbated natural disasters like the earthquake experienced almost two years ago in Barbados. We are seeing more and more severe freak weather resulting in landslides, El Nino and La Nina, hurricanes, cyclones, storms, tornadoes, massive snow and avalanches, tsunamis and volcanoes. And all this seems like only the beginning of environmental sorrows.

No time to bury our heads in the sand

Environmental sustainability high impact studies in the 1990โ€™s in Barbados showed that the effluent and the waste from our hotels and commercial urban sprawl would have been a major contributing factor to the eventual destruction of our coral reefs. The destruction of coral reefs was a biological factor which was subsequently borne out and responsible for the Tsunami on December 26th 2005 which devastated Indonesia and many other countries. A fact subsequently discovered by marine biologists.

In the Science Daily dated (Jun. 11, 2007) it was reported that the โ€œCaribbean coral species are dying off, indicating dramatic shifts in the ecological balance under the sea, a new scientific study of Caribbean marine life shows. The study found that 10% of the Caribbean’s 62 reef-building corals were under threat, including Staghorn and Elkhorn corals. These used to be the most prominent species but are now candidates to be listed as โ€˜Critically Endangered on the IUCN Red List of Threatened Speciesโ€™โ€.

Let us be under no illusion. As Science Daily reports that “one of the Atlantic Ocean’s most beautiful marine habitats no longer exists in many places because of dramatic increases in coral diseases, mostly caused by climate change and warmer waters,” said Dr. Michael L. Smith, director of the Caribbean Biodiversity Initiative at Conservation International.

Based on our changing ecology, โ€œclimatologists forecast completely new climates. Something we are increasing seeing in Europe. Geographers have projected temperature increases due to greenhouse gas emissions to reach a not-so-chilling conclusion: climate zones will shift and some climates will even disappear completely by the year 2100โ€.

Eminent environmental scientists like Dr. Cao et al. seek to quantify the effect of climate change on ocean acidity and on the calcium-carbonate minerals that form shells and skeletons. โ€œBy using an Earth system model, the researchers find that the ocean pH will decline by 0.31 units by the end of this century if atmospheric carbon dioxide concentrations continue on a trajectory that ultimately stabilizes at 1,000 parts per million. This increase in acidity occurs regardless of how much of a global-warming-related temperature rise takes place as carbon dioxide builds up to that concentrationโ€.

โ€œLike a piece of chalk dissolving in vinegar, marine life with hard shells is in danger of being dissolved by increasing acidity in the oceans. Ocean acidity is rising as sea water absorbs more carbon dioxide released into the atmosphere from power plants and automobiles. The higher acidity threatens marine life, including corals and shellfish, which may become extinct later this century from the chemical effects of carbon dioxide, even if the planet warms less than expectedโ€.

Many in Barbados and throughout the Caribbean (especially in Guyana & Trinidad) will agree with these finding but moreover that in the last decade our local temperatures has increased several degrees hotter due to wilfully destructive practices of maize and soybean producers, urban developers, house builders and infrastructural planners in both our Town & Country Planning and Urban Development departments, where basically men are void of vision and lack the fundamental knowledge of ecological sustainability and how that impacts on climate change.

It is common sense to deduce that if one cuts down trees while slashing and burning to plant crops (which is a good thing) or refuse to plant trees as a form of sustainability, as we plant more and more houses every year, at the same time concreting over the landscape of beautiful Barbados and our other idyllic island paradises, the end result will be increased heat, and unpredictable patterns of seasonal instability.

The greatest threat facing our nation states is not from international terrorists, money launderers, unscrupulous politicians and business people, youth crime and violence, drug trafficking, or even the spiralling cost of living even though these are all symptomatic of the moral landslide endemic within contemporary society and the breakdown of ethical values which makes us human and not ruled by the conventional law of the jungle โ€“ but the real burning issue is how climate change will change us all in the near future.

Governments must lead from the front to avert what will be a catastrophe of unparallel proportions to our environment if these issues are not addressed speedily. We cannot continue the wanton destruction of our society or our fragile planet without calamitous results both for us and for our children in the very near future. Now is the time for all of us to act with resolve to change Barbados and our world to more โ€œGREENERโ€, sustainable and friendlier planet. Letโ€™s make that change!


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79 responses to “Barbados At The Crossroads: Are We Winning The Battle Against Climate Change?”


  1. Good luck with this blog TB in provoking comments :-). We live in a world where the economics weighs greater over environmental considerations. Unfortunately people just don’t seem to care especially the countries who should know better.


  2. Upon exiting their caves they stumbled upon pyramids, constructed with kmtic mind science, great civilization which lived in cosmic and spiritual harmony.

    Enter the blue-eyed pale-skin ‘mankind’ who, thru his genius dis-covered that the earth was flat and as a result set out to flatten every other thing that he found standing. He invaded other cultures. Pillaged, decimated and destroyed their great ‘civilizations,’ stole their lands just to get their God-given natural resources. [while leaving behind a bible and a blond-blue-eyed powerless icon].

    They then set off on their ‘flat’ journeys to try to replicate the civilizations that they destroyed. But he in is limited mental capacity not being able to perform such feats had to also steal the other natural resources from such land ..i.e.. the MEN & WOMEN and chain them down to transport them to their new lands to do the work that he would/could not do.

    By any means necessary he had to attain what the Original MAN had accomplished thru the power of his Black Mind. And in his quest to achieve such feats, he created nothing short of destruction on this planet.

    {Jack Bowman…remember the Industrial Revolution that you so hold in high esteem?}

    So now that he believes that he has achieved “un-parralled” status he thinks that those who are not like him should not be allowed to achieve what he has ‘attained.’

    In steps GLOBAL WARMING!

    And now this genius has also made another monumental discovery that…..OVERPOPULATION & CARBON DIOXIDE…..is causing this problem!

    So what is their resolve …to stick a Carbon tax up your arse, develop all forms of viruses and vaccines to decimate the useless-eaters, f… with your water and food supply, employ state-sponsored terrorism, engineer financial crises by simply pulling all money both seen and unseen out of the market…render the sheeple helpless and employ their Hegelian Dialectic.

    And now the sheeple’s mantra has become ‘LET’S GO GREEN!’

    ————————————–

    The problem can be easily solved and one sure way is to deracinate a few from the CO2 Cycle i.e those at the top of the ‘pyramid’ structure.


  3. In reply to recent media coverage, please find a response for those who believe Global Warming is a scam to fund research. It seems that a storm at a speed of 300 miles an hour or more hitting Barbados or a giant wave destroying New York is what it will take to cause government and the people of Barbados to take notice.

    Recently I sent a press briefing of the Bonn Climate Change Talks held in Germany last month, to all the media houses and not one felt it news worthy. What does it say about the media in Barbados? Personally I do not expect you to publish anything which is critical of your modus operandi but I will not stray from my responsibility to share relevant information on the environment.

    What is the greenhouse effect? What is global warming? What is carbon?
    The greenhouse effect is a natural mechanism that retains the heat emitted from the earthโ€™s surface. The earthโ€™s average temperature is at the moment around 14 degrees celsius (57 degrees fahrenheit). If the natural greenhouse effect did not exist, the average temperature would be around minus 19
    degrees celsius (minus 2 degrees fahrenheit).

    The greenhouse effect is caused by a range of different gases in the earthโ€™s atmosphere. Water vapour makes the most significant contribution to the greenhouse effect, followed by Carbon Dioxide (CO2). The atmospheric content of greenhouse gases โ€“ in particular CO2 โ€“ and the consequences for the climate are being discussed because the content of these gases in the atmosphere has risen precipitously in a period covering approximately the latest 250 years, and especially the last 50.

    At present the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere is approximately 385 ppm (parts per million). Before industrialization it was closer to 280 ppm. Analyses of air contained in ice from the Antarctic ice cap show that there is far more CO2 in the air today than at any time in the last 650,000 years.

    The consequence is that the greenhouse effect is becoming stronger, and therefore the earth is becoming warmer, referred to as Global Warming. How much warmer is a matter of dispute. The most recent assessment report from the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change 2007 report (UN IPCC) says that the earthโ€™s average temperature has risen by 0.74 degrees in the period from 1906 to 2005, and that the average temperature will continue to rise.

    Warming has been found to be stronger over land areas than over the sea, and accordingly it is strongest in the northern hemisphere. At the same time occurrences of heat waves and violent downpours have also increased, the oceans have risen, and the ice at the worldโ€™s poles and on its mountains has begun to melt. The extent and the duration of this increase, and the severity of its consequences, depend on how quickly and how effectively emissions of greenhouse gases can be restricted and, over time, reduced.

    Carbon moves throughout the Earth โ€” between the atmosphere, the oceans, sedimentary rock, soil, plants, animals and humans โ€” in what scientists call the carbon cycle. Understanding how the carbon cycle works is critical to predicting Earthโ€™s climate in the future.
    โ€œTo predict the behavior of Earthโ€™s climate system in the future, we must be able to understand the functioning of the carbon system and predict the evolution of atmospheric carbon dioxide,โ€ wrote

    scientists Jorge Sarmiento, Steve Wofsy and their colleagues in the 1999 report โ€œA U.S. Carbon Cycle Science Plan.โ€ The debate over the science of climate change and its impacts on the planet will continue to rage. The raw facts exist however, that without human impacts on the planet, we would have more forests, cleaner oceans, healthier marine and terrestrial life, and, if we are to place ourselves at the top of the food chain with all the knowledge of the planet and seemingly disregard for the knowledge of nature, healthier humans. Changes to our daily existence must occur for the preservation of us as a species. A reconnection to what is the natural world and the resources it provides us, must be explored, and now. Without this appreciation of the finite limitations of what is around us, the population will HAVE to accept changes to lifestyles, rather than CHOOSING to make choices to change now in a manner which best suits the individual or the community.


  4. @TB, I am a bit surprised, even disappointed that you would present this issue, climate change, ‘Global Warming’ at a stage, time, era, ‘season’ like the one that’s unfolding before mankind, economic meltdown, World War III, on our front doors, all spoken by our Lord Jesus Christ, ‘The Signs of the End of the Age’ (Matt. 24: 4-28).

    The frenzy re so-called ‘Global Warming’ is just another ‘fix’ by the Enviro-Statist; their noxious assult on humankind and the civil society is presented as “global warming.”

    Not too long ago, ‘global cooling’ was all the frenzy, with warnings of cataclysmic destruction from flooding, famine, and upheaval.

    In 1971, Dr. S.I. Rasool, a NASA scientist, insisted that “in the next 50 years, the fine dust man constantly puts into the atmosphere by fossil fuel-burning could screen out so much sunlight, that the average temperature could drop by six degree.” Rasool further claimed that :if sustained over several years – five to ten – such temperature decrease could be sufficient to trigger an ice age.” In cidentally, in arriving at his conclusions, Rasool used, in part, a computer model created by his NASA colleague and current global warming mystic, Dr. James Hansan.

    The global cooling alarm was sounded throughout the 1970s.

    Of course, there was no new Ice Age. The “almost unanimous” opinion of weather experts about man-made global cooling was wrong.

    The Enviro-Statist then swung in the opposite direction, insisting that it is the “almost unanimous” opinion of scientists and other experts that rather than ‘cooling’ the earth is actually warming, and man is the culprit once again.
    Massachusetts Institute of Technology professor, Richard Lindzen, classified “scientific consensus” respecting global warming as “unscientific.” He said, “With respect to science, the assumption behind consensus is that science is a source of authority. Rather, it is a particularly effective approach to inquiry and analysis. Skepticism is essential to science; consensus is foreign.” How true!

    At this weeks UN ‘fiasco’ President Obama was the first national leader to speak. He said he was “proud to say” that the United States had done more to promote ‘clean’ energy and reduce carbon pollution during his first eight months in office ‘than at any other time in our history.”

    However, he didn’t actually propose anything concrete. That’s why some of his most ardent environmentalist supporters are getting ANGRY! They smell another Kyoto in the air!

    And they won’t adsmit it, but the air they’re sniffing is somewhat cooler. The global ‘warming’ crowd (now they’re known as the ‘climate change’ crowd since the ‘warming’ argument is beginning to wear thin) grudgingly admits that the ‘cooling’ temperatures are due to the ‘quite sun’ we’ve had in recent years. They blame the sun for the earth’s cooling, but continue to blame man for the earth’s warming. Go figure.

    All another ‘Hoax’ through pseudo-scientific consensus, to impose some ‘Tax’ on all of mankind, all part and parcel of the sinister, evil, wicked, One World Government agenda, LIARS!

    But, Jesus Christ, implied in Matthew 24, that all kinds of devastating events would come upon mankind, as the End of the Age comes to a close!

    The problem with mankind is NOT ecomonic, nor enviornmental, these factors are just manifestations of a far deeper malady, SPIRITUAL; we are seeking to deal with the symptoms of the real problem, rather than deal with its cause!


  5. Zoe Claims:

    “Not too long ago, โ€˜global coolingโ€™ was all the frenzy,”

    “The โ€œalmost unanimousโ€ opinion of weather experts about man-made global cooling was wrong.”

    ———————————

    These are flat out FALSE statements.

    A simple wiki search will reveal:

    “Global cooling was a conjecture during the 1970s of imminent cooling of the Earth’s surface and atmosphere along with a posited commencement of glaciation. This hypothesis never had significant scientific support, but gained temporary popular attention due to a combination of press reports that did not accurately reflect the scientific understanding of ice age cycles, and a slight downward trend of temperatures from the 1940s to the early 1970s. General scientific opinion is that the Earth has not durably cooled, but undergone global warming throughout the 20th century.[1]”

    The press reports noted above included a notorious 1975 Newsweek Article for which that publication eventually had to make a retraction.

    From the wiki you have also find this comment :

    “In the 1970s there was increasing awareness that estimates of global temperatures showed cooling since 1945. Of those scientific papers considering climate trends over the 21st century, only 10% inclined towards future cooling, while most papers predicted future warming.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling

    There was absolutely no credible scientific consensus of global cooling.

    In 1975 the National Academy of Sciences stated the following:

    “The climates of the earth have always been changing, and they will doubtless continue to do so in the future. How large these future changes will be, and where and how rapidly they will occur, we do not know..”

    As we have seen so often on this blog, another blatant LIE from Zoe.


  6. And here is the info on how Zoe just tried to discredit Hansen and Rasool

    http://climateprogress.org/2007/09/27/james-hansen-ice-age-myth/

    Zoe, you are nothing more than propaganda


  7. More exposure of the lies of Zoe

    http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2005/01/the-global-cooling-myth/

    More examples of how he is happy to completely misrepresent the work of two men to push his propaganda


  8. And here is a quote from the very Richard Lindzen that you revere, on the issue of ‘global cooling’

    “But the scientific community never took the issue to heart, governments ignored it, and with rising global temperatures in the late 1970s the issue more or less died. In the meantime, model calculations–especially at the Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory at Princeton–continued to predict substantial warming due to increasing carbon dioxide. Those predictions were considered interesting, but largely academic, exercises–even by the scientists involved.”


  9. Lets repeat that……..

    “BUT THE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY NEVER TOOK THE ISSUE [GLOBAL COOLING] TO HEART”


  10. Zoe’s Claim….

    “Not too long ago, โ€˜global coolingโ€™ was all the frenzy, with warnings of cataclysmic destruction from flooding, famine, and upheaval.”

    —————-

    FLAT OUT FALSE !!


  11. Anonymous @ 8:49 am is HOPI!

    What a load of bullshit. Why don’t we just get rid of all CO2 from our environment? The LIARS can’t correct the problems they created. They are just looking to make more money from our ignorance.


  12. Hopi,

    There was never the slightest doubt that the post of 8:49 was from you.


  13. @ Not saved
    You might not agree with Zoe on global warming or global cooling (I dont know enough about it to opine) but it is hard to disagree with his last two paragraphs LOL

    But, Jesus Christ, implied in Matthew 24, that all kinds of devastating events would come upon mankind, as the End of the Age comes to a close!

    The problem with mankind is NOT ecomonic, nor enviornmental, these factors are just manifestations of a far deeper malady, SPIRITUAL; we are seeking to deal with the symptoms of the real problem, rather than deal with its cause!


  14. @Not Saved………Without blind knowledge, you know that is Hopi at 8:49, but I didn’t want anyone else to blindly swallow that it might be me or be in any doubt whatsoever.

    So that clarification was meant for others!


  15. @ Not Saved, Your vicious ‘spin’ here won’t work either, niether your Ad Hominem attack, coupled with your one-sided quotes!

    Among the most widely cited “authorities” for man-made global warming is an IPCC panel report produced in 2007. Vaclav Klaus, president of the Czech Republic, an economist, and a well known critic of global warming proponents, has said that the “IPCC ” is not a scientific institution; it is a political body, a sort of non-government organization of green flavor. It’s neither a forum of neutral scientists nor a balanced groop of scientists. These people are political scientists who arrive there with a ‘one-sided’ opinion and a one-sided assignment.”

    A study by the Science and Public Policy Institute backs klaus’s observation.

    “The IPCC is a single-interest organization, whose charter directs it to assume that there is a human influence on climate, rather than to consider whether the influence may be negligible.”

    As the Heartland Institute notes: “The IPCC’s climate science assessment is dominated by a small clique of alarmists who frequently work closely with each other outside the IPCC process.”

    Again, the alarmists’ methodologies have come under severe criticism. For example, the surface stations used throughout the United States to measure temperature are subject to distortion. Many readings are influenced by warming caused by nearby buildings, parking lots, and exhaust vents. The temperature station in Maryville, Califirnia, is surrounded by an asphalt driveway, and air-conditioning units.

    And there are charges that historic CO2 measurements are intentionally chosen to ensure that the data reflect an increase, such as ignoring CO2 measurements from the years 1857-1957, which may show higher concentrations of atmospheric CO2 than exist today.

    Even so, does carbon dioxide actually affect temperature levels? Dr. Nir Shariv, a top astrophysicists and associate professor at Hebrew University, used to think so, but not anymore:

    “Like many others, I was personally sure that CO2 is the bad culprit in the story of global warming. But after careful digging into the evidence, I realized that things are far more complicated than story told to us by many climate scientists, or the stories regurgitated by the media.” Shariv notes that “solar activity can explain a large part of the 20th-century global warming” and greenhouse gases are laergely irrelevant to the climate. If the CO2 doubled by 2100, it “will not dramatically increase the global temperature.” He added, “even if we halved the CO2 output, and the CO2 increase by 2100 would be, say, a 50% increase relative to today instead of a doubled amount, the expected reduction in the rise of global temperature would be less than 0.5C. this is not significant.”

    NS, man, just as you are so terribly deceived re Evolution vs Creation, and the absolute truth of God’s Word, likewise, again, your are in a stupor, hebetude, torpidity, on the LIES fostered by people like Al Gore, and the scientists who are on his side and hidden agenda in promoting this fallacy! All part of the World Order scrip and plot! LIES, LIES, and more LIES!


  16. Imagine big people are spending time disputing what is right or wrong with the climate rather than looking out the window and realizing the difference in BIM’s environment daily. SEEM HOTTER TO ANYONE??? maybe we all living on a different island.
    Regardless however of if the information is true or false, why not use it as a basis for which we as a society get away from expensive oil that costs use more than anything,(food, transport, water and electricity) and find alternatives to our need that create less of a problem for us, ever wonder why cost of living keeps going up, maybe the oil price keeps going up too. But we live in a REACTIVE not PROACTIVE society. Love to complain but do nothing about.
    So stay and disagree as to whom is lying,right or wrong and then still find yourself in the same place. This island ain’t getting any bigger it will only get smaller, so as the population grows,you don’t think we should reconsider our living habits. After all there are something like 150,000 vehicles on the road in BIM, to a population of 270,ooo wonder what that will become when we have 300,000 people. Hope the heat sweet!!!


  17. As for the blogger who said they were disappointed with Mr. TB. you should be disappointed in yourself for not realising that climate change is one of the leading causes of economic problems in the near and far future, maybe even tomorrow. People are already fighting for water and land in some places, so check your facts or watch some news, then talk. And there are already wars on the way regardless of the economic crisis, the will just be brought to the forefront. Don’t fool yourself.
    Don’t take this as a insult, i am simply trying to point something out to you, “don’t always think or see with in the box, look outside it sometimes.”
    We in the Caribbean, will have more problems to deal with than an economic crisis if the climate change impacts come to fruition. We rank extremely high on the water and land scarce scales but also on the population density.


  18. @Zoe,

    LOL

    I see you were completely unable to defend you blatant false statements and went on global warming rant.

    Deceived? I am not one believing bronze myths and seeing conspiracy at every turn, LOL

    Sorry Georgie, cant say I agree with the last two paragraphs either.


  19. @DAVID +BU
    “We live in a world where the economics weighs greater over environmental considerations. Unfortunately people just donโ€™t seem to care especially the countries who should know better…”

    David, you and I both know that the weather in Barbados has changed for the worse even in the last 10 years…

    We burn too many fossil fuels for a small island state and the impact of that alone will prove disastrous if government does not work real fast at some of the technological blue prints given to the former PM Owen Arthur in 2006 while I was doing some project management work on the island.

    I know it is an inconvenient truth but doing “NOTHING” is NOT an option!!!

    The question government must ask – “Can we survive a Tsunami?*”

    Where will our pristine beaches be in another 10 years if we do not stem the tide of disappearing coral reefs, warming oceans and the effects of pollutions from the dumping of waste within our waters???

    The head in the white sands of Barbados approach is wonderful for those “idiots” who are in denial but the hard truths is that one day we will wake up on a glorious sunny Sunday morning to find our beaches covered in filth, oil or worst – nuclear waste…

    Historian Marshall said that in the 1600’s Barbados was deforested in order to plant sugar cane…

    What is our excuse today?

    Planting houses???


  20. @BU FAMILY

    For every proponent of (PLEASE NOTE THE WORDS BEING USED) “Climate Change” there is an equal if not greater amount of experts and exponents “AGAINST”this phenomenon.

    I live in Britain and based on simple, careful, non-speculative, observational analysis – I am NOT* the only one who has seen the effects and the symptomatology of climate change…

    My colleagues in the Dept. of Earth & Planetary Sciences attest to this fact with their inexhaustive scientific meteorological evidence but even without all the gobbledygook* – some things are just apparent.

    As a Christian, my brothers argue that the Bible says that in the last days the sun will scorch men. Whether the contextual reading of that piece of Scripture is an indictment on a planet that is fast running out of life force due to man’s willful destruction and his unending quest for greed and the insatiable thirst for consumerism – is something I will leave for the pundit to haggle over…

    What is clear to me – this is the only planet we have been given and we have not looked after Mother Earth and it is only a matter of time before the cataclysmic effects will be seen and felt by all of us…

    Only a fool could discount the high preponderance of evidence staring us nakedly in the face…

    But then, there is none so blind as he who refuses to see….


  21. @ZOE
    “TB, I am a bit surprised, even disappointed that you would present this issue, climate change…”

    With all due respect, I am sure my darling wife is often disappointed as well – but we are still married after 27 years…

    We won’t always agree on everything; especially on every strand of knowledge; we won’t always eat from the same plate but as long as we can share in a spirit of mutual respect that’s all that matters….


  22. @Not Saved
    Re Sorry Georgie, cant say I agree with the last two paragraphs either.

    We wont off course agree on many things, but I usually enjoy debating with you, BAFBFP and BT, as you are both usually worthy and reasonable opponents.


  23. Praise from you Georgie, is praise indeed.


  24. @Young Bajan
    “SEEM HOTTER TO ANYONE??? maybe we all living on a different island..”

    SERIOUS HUMOR my brother!!!

    Just imagine Saudi Arabian temperature in the near future…

    Thank God for the beach, huh?

    Well, if we haven’t destroyed that part of BIM too…


  25. @TB

    Barbados is small fry in the scheme of things. Why should we bother when the heavily industrialized countries like USA and others refused to sign off on Kyoto? Will they sign when it expires shortly?


  26. @DAVID
    “Why should we bother when the heavily industrialized countries like USA and others refused to sign off on Kyoto? ”

    YES BRUV* – you’re absolutely right!!!

    WE must however weigh in heavily in the Global Public Square (most notably) in Barbados for government to do the right thing by our small island environment and to put pressure on the other neighboring islands to do the same…

    The Romans say we are often forced to do the inevitable by “via armis”…

    All America needs is one more “KATRINA”… China another 8.0 on the Richter scale and Indonesia another Tsuanami and see how quickly Kyoto and every other climate treaty will be signed and ratified….

    The creation groans….

    And Deliverance MUST* come!!!


  27. Once upon a time [not too long ago] it used to be “Global Warming” now the language has become very accommodating ….. “Climate Change.” What a bunch of scientific whores and frauds.

    As long as information is put out there by whitey it is the “TRUTH.” So we should all swallow this without question and give power to his lies by repeating his mantra…Climate Change! Climate Change! He is shifting paradigm after paradigm and the sheep are just following blindly.

    Let the earth heat up. Konscious Black MEN have no fear and cherish your BLACK KEMICAL —melanin, because the LIAR is busy shooting up with melanotan to get what your BLACK Creator blessed you with.

    Remember all the other lies they told you about your BLACKNESS and how evil it is?

    “Life is a cycle, every little thing just goes in a circle.” Looks like the chickens are coming home to ‘roast.’

    We are the children of the SUN!

    Amon Ra, Anedj Herack!


  28. David, do we believe in monkey see monkey do???


  29. @Young Bajan

    No we don’t but there is the current reality to always consider.


  30. @Not Saved, because you could NOT get the better of me and other Christians on the Creation/Evolution debate months ago on BU, (you got LICKS!) your insubstantial, superannuated, atheistic, mind, could not waite to spew forth LIES on my character, such as; “As we have seen so often on this blog, another blatant LIE from Zoe.” “Zoe you are nothing more than propaganda.”

    I most certainly DID NOT lie re Global cooling as it was then beginning to be propagated decades before; though it did not gain momentum at that time, enough was said and written concening it, that was essentially factual in the way ‘some’ saw it.

    NS, Your Godless mind-set, rampant, rancid athiest that your are, would do anything in your feeble mind, to discredit me, YOU CANNOT, man; you are a LIAR regarding your accusation against me!

    My quotes re some of what was said at the time re global cooling, were accurate, and was done to contrast the facts as they are now, especially in light of the alarmists insistence on ‘global warming.’

    As Deroy Murdock, “Global Cooling Chills Summer 2009′ writes:

    “There has been no significant global warming since 1995, no warming since 1998, and ‘global cooling’ for the past few years,” former U.S. Senate Environment Committee spokesman Marc Morano writes at Climate Depot.com. Citing meterics gathered by University of Alabama Huntsville’s Dr. Roy Spencer, Morano adds: “The latest global average satellite temperature data for June 2009 reveal yet another drop in Earth’s temperature…Despite his dire warnings, the Earth has cooled 0.7 degrees F since Vice President Al Gore released ‘An Inconvenient Truth’ in 2006.”

    “Earth’s temperature fall even as the planet spins within what global-warmists consider a thickening cloud of toxic dioxide. ( Never mind that fauna exhale it, and flora devour it.)”

    “FREAK SUMMER STORM DUMPS SNOW ON YONKERS.” the New York Post blared after a July 8 storm brought a wintry mix to that city north of Gotham. That same day, the high temperature reached 65 degrees at O’Hare International Airport, making Chicago’s coldest July 8 since 1891. Meanwhile, in Melbourne, Australia, temperatures have been 10 degrees below average, while frost has covered lawns and windshields. On July 13, Albert Gore will appear in Melbourne to explain to Australians that they are shivering due to warming.”

    “Simmer down, global-warmists retort. These are mere anecdotes, handpicked to make us look silly.”

    “Well, one would be foolish to challenge space-borne satellites that guage Earth’s mean temperatures – cold, hot, and average. Here again, evidence of global cooling piles up like snow drifts.”


  31. @HOPI
    “Climate Change! Climate Change!”

    Have you visited Africa recently?

    I am cordially inviting you to come and visit before the 2010 Football World Cup festivities…

    There are some areas of Southern Africa (areas that are suffering the effects of climate change) where our cousins will tell you categorically that something has happened to their weather patterns and seasonal rainfall which in turn is severely affecting their food production and the water levels in their rivers and other sources of water supply…

    But we can chalk that up to speculation, mumbo-jumbo and the workings of witch doctors….

    Oh sorry – am I being facetious???


  32. ONE COULD ARGUE THAT :-

    “THE DAY WILL COME WHEN THE SUN WILL RISE IN THE WEST”

    The 2 sides of the climate change debate is both an observable as well as an empirical phenomena…

    Wherever you land in the debate or in the discourse – we cannot afford to be blind-sided by our “hobby-horses” as it is certain that our planet is in a period of serious instability…

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/climatechange/2009/04/where_did_all_the_sunspots_go.html


  33. @Terrence B……………..Why before the 2010 Football World Cup?


  34. @HOPI
    “Why before the 2010 Football World Cup?”

    I would NOT* want to get in the way of those who find fascination in a bunch of overpayed airheads running around behind a piece of sheepskin…

    OOOPs….

    I forgot where I am living….

    Well I guess I’ll be hearing from BIMBRO on this one!!!!


  35. Zoe says :

    “I most certainly DID NOT lie re Global cooling as it was then beginning to be propagated decades before; though it did not gain momentum at that time, enough was said and written concening it, that was essentially factual in the way โ€™someโ€™ saw it.”

    LOL

    Well Zoe, lets remind you what you said…

    โ€œThe โ€œalmost unanimousโ€ opinion of weather experts about man-made global cooling was wrong.โ€

    Since “weather experts” never had any such opinion, your statement is just plain FALSE !

    Even now you admit it was only “some” that saw it as “essentially factual”. Who were these “some”?

    LOL

    Tell me what does it mean to “see” something as a fact? is it is a fact?

    What is the difference between something factual and something “essentially factual”?

    The “global cooling” claim of the 1970s, was something in the press, not in science, not by experts and not by James Hansen.

    But that fact, does not suit your little propaganda effort. Better to just LIE.

    What is with the 2009 global cooling quotes?

    LOL

    Come again, you are hilarious.

    I am looking forward to it.


  36. From “almost unanimous” to “some”

    Thats quite a turnaround, even for you Zoe.

    LOL


  37. @BU FAMILY et al

    The agnostics, the epicureans, the protagonists, the soothsayers & the naysayers, the skeptics and the down-right ambivalent crowd can argue all they want – the facts are self-evident to the guy in his ivory tower as well as to the guy in the street, that something ominous is going on with our climate as everything is in flux…

    One can argue that some on this issue are claiming that politicians and the donkey-class is using this as another reason to slap “stealth” taxes on the populace calling it carbon tax and a myriad of other ignominious levies to extort further wealth from its people.

    That can be said about thing today…The bandwagon is there for those in the seat of power to ride at their behest…

    Maybe David Thompson is in the process of implementing similar measures and legislation upon you automobile loving, fossil-fuel burning, sex-machines on 4 wheels crowd scurrying to get across 22 x 14 and frankly those who can’t live or survive without their “bat-mobiles” for a single day…

    Not that I am putting any ideas in the government’s head –

    OH NO!!!

    But maybe I have…In any case, time will tell!!!


  38. It’s a little frightening to be in agreement with Zoe, however if the reason for climate change is a choice between the degrees of either varriable solar activity or my thermostat I think we should all have a shave with Occam’s razor.


  39. Colorado State University meteorological project has provided the following information for those who live within the flight path of hurricanes, major storms and other climate phenomena for 2009 –

    “Information obtained through July 2009 indicates that the 2009 Atlantic hurricane season will be less active than the average 1950 – 2000 season due largely to the development of an El Niรฑo.”

    “We estimate that 2009 will have about 4 hurricanes (average is 5.9), 10 named storms (average is 9.6), 45 named storm days (average is 49.1), 18 hurricane days (average is 24.5), 2 major (Category 3-4-5) hurricanes (average is 2.3) and 4 major hurricane days (average is 5.0).”

    “The probability of U.S. major hurricane landfall and Caribbean major hurricane activity is estimated to be below the long-period average. We expect Atlantic basin Net Tropical Cyclone (NTC) activity in 2009 to be approximately 85% of the long-term average. We have decreased our seasonal forecast slightly from early June.”

    If these predictions are accurate even within the margins of probability – it does not offset the fact that a SINGLE* freak event outside of the norm could throw everything in total bedlam…

    Case in point:-


  40. @ Bro’ Terence, all that you describe and outline re climate change, throughout the planet, is entirely consistant with the ‘End-time’ scenario, as outlined by Jesus in Matt 24.

    This chaotic climate change, IS just part of the utter cataclysmic devastation that IS unfolding before us, and, you know, we ain’t see nothing yet! Waite until the true reality of the ‘economic’ melt-down really ‘kicks’ in, not to mention the soon-to-be, start of World War III!

    Men’s heart, shall fail them, for fear!


  41. It will be hell on earth then!

    Then men will not be mocking and scoffing the Word of God so much then. Will they?

    Nor will they be sounding so haughty and intellectual then?


  42. @GP & ZOE

    ABSOLUTELY CORRECT – hands down!!!

    Can I paint you guys a scenario???


  43. @GP, Zoe and TMB…

    But what if you are wrong?

    What if, instead of the second coming, we simply all find ourselves in a *really* uncomfortable environment?

    It scares me a little bit (actually, quite a bit) to think that there are those out there who actually believe that their impact on the environment shouldn’t be considered, because it was all “foretold”….

    Again I ask (it is like asking a mouse what it thinks about Quantum Mechanics, I know) what if you are wrong?


  44. @GP & ZOE

    Throughout history many people have interpreted the grandeur of the mountains and the glory of the Sun and the stars according to their own superstitions thinking that the universe is indestructible and will last for all eternity. This belief lay at the foundation of ancient Greek, Sumerian and Egyptian religious mythology.

    On the Last Day, there is a description of all the stages and the events that will occur at that time: โ€˜When the sky is ripped apartโ€™, โ€˜When the seas are set ablazeโ€™, โ€˜When the mountains are plucked up by their roots and scatteredโ€™, โ€˜When the sun is extinguishedโ€™โ€ฆโ€ฆThe fear, panic and amazement with which people will witness these extraordinary events is described vividly in the books of prophecy; they will find no place to hide, there will be no escape ad no one will be able to protect themselves from the agony of this time.

    The “Stone” โ€“ โ€œThe Chief Corner Stoneโ€ of Daniel 2:45 cut out from the Mountain of God in the sides of the North strikes the kingdoms of Satan (the kingdom of men) and here is a graphical interpretation of that cataclysmic experience:

    The first angel blows his trumpet: suddenly a first collision (HEAVEN meets earth) then a sudden stop of the orbit of the Earth that had continued in its course perfectly for billions of years while it existed without form and void. This will totally upset the worldโ€™s order. Night will not turn into day; one side of the Earth will remain in perpetual darkness while the other will be always in daylight. People will be amazed at this change and overwhelmed by great fear, horror and panic. The Earthโ€™s crust will shift; there will be a great earthquake and others everywhere. There will be violent volcanic eruptions and magma sill stream down. Horror and panic will increase.

    With this collision the Earth will reverse its orbit. At that moment, the Earth, which for billions of years had moved perfectly from west to east without stopping for a moment, will begin to turn from east to west. As a result, the Sun will start to rise not in the east but in the west. Both the collisions and the change in the direction of the Earthโ€™s motion will upset the ecological system that ensured the order of the world and the continuation of life. The sense of horror will increase in peopleโ€™s hearts and minds and the process of the destruction of the world and all creatures in it will begin.

    That collision causes radical ecological changes on the Earth. The first result is widespread destruction. After the collision, there will be volcanic eruptions, earthquakes everywhere in the world, tsunamis, violent storms, fires and acid rain.


  45. @GP & ZOE

    cont’d

    When the angelic meteoric glory of 100 million plus angels enters the Earthโ€™s atmosphere, it creates a fireball four times brighter than the Sun causing extreme global warming. The collision causes boiling temperatures, chemical changes in the atmosphere, clouds of dust and gasses and a mist of sulfur blocks out the Sun and plunges the Earth into darkness so deep, Egypt in days of Moses come to mind. As a result the global temperature falls; there were endless winters for generations but not like this period and photosynthesis cease. Scientists determine that, if photosynthesis stops for even just a year, the ecosystem would totally collapse.

    Life on Earth depends 99.9% on the Sun; and if the Sun is taken away, the first condition of life is removed. The lengthy blocking of the Sunโ€™s rays, therefore, changed the ecological system. With the death of plants and plankton there is a sudden lowering of the Earthโ€™s oxygen level. Shortly afterward, herbivorous animals dies of hunger; gigantic waves will inundate trees, skyscrapers and every corner of the world.

    In the face of such never before experienced shocks, people will be panic-stricken and overwhelmed by fear. Most fearful of all will be the realization that there is no escape and no place to hide from the horror. These shocks will not be like familiar earthquakes that people have seen before limited to certain areas or cities and lasting only some minutes. This time there will be no escape; the shocks will occur all over the world and all at once.

    These worldwide shocks will have a profound effect on people. Think for a moment about earthquakes: these shocks last only a matter of minutes but nevertheless leave great destruction behind them. At this Hour, no earthly possession will have any value or meaning. Luxury homes, giant skyscrapers, 5-star hotels, houses bought and furnished with hard-earned money, palaces, bridges, the finest buildings in the world, the pyramids that have lasted for centuries impervious to the forces of nature, historic castles, and cities will all crumble like sandcastles build on the beach. Offices, luxury cars and all proud earthly possessions will vanish in an instant. Glory, fame, respect and power will mean nothing in this moment of Godโ€™s judgment.

    Earthquakes set off by the collisions will be followed by volcanic eruptions; the force of the collisions will break the Earthโ€™s crust and magma will rush down to cover the whole Earth. The Earthโ€™s core (5000-6000 km (3100-3700 mi) under the crust) will be under very severe pressure. Its temperature is estimated to be about 4500 degrees Centigrade (8100 F). The lava that erupts from a volcanic explosion comes from this magma core. Volcanic explosions have terrified the residents of many cities throughout history and many individuals and even cities have perished.


  46. @GP & ZOE

    Cont’d

    Cracks that have occurred for various reasons in the Earthโ€™s layers have resulted in the eruption of lava and, the higher the pressure, the more violent the eruption. The determinative factor is the level of gas present. When magma spills out onto the Earth, the gasses separate from the liquid material, spread over the magma causing a pressure increase. The force of a magma eruption depends on the pressure exerted by the gas; the lava erupts and flows down turning Earth into a hell. This kind of eruption is not limited to a particular area. And according to the latest research, these disasters are for the most part predictable and protective measures can be taken but at this time, there will be no shelter.

    Underground water will be forcefully expelled by the shocks from subterranean layers. The effect of this compressed water will be quite violent. Great damage will occur at the point where this water is expelled and a flood of water will spread over the Earth causing a widespread upset in daily life. When there is a volcanic eruption anywhere thick dust and solid particles are expelled into the upper atmosphere. During such an eruption, a cloud of dust and ashes cover the whole area. People all over the world will suffer severe affliction. Spreading clouds of dust and gasses will take peopleโ€™s breath away and cause them to writhe in agony. What happens on that day will be enough to show deniers the dimensions of the eternal pangs of Hell that they will suffer. God has decreed this horrible end to human life and prepared for deniers terrible physical and mental pangs in Hell. In the face of these horrible events, there will be an omnipresent fear of death. There will be nothing left but fear and sorrow.

    On that day the atmosphere will become incandescent as it starts to melt. The accustomed blue color of the sky will turn to red. In his book entitled โ€œThe Last Three Minutesโ€, Paul Davies describes the effect of the collision of a comet with the Earth; he says that a gigantic ray of light in the sky will begin to burn and the sky will melt like metal. In the same chapter, Davies explains that a boiling whirlpool will be formed because of the vacuum formed in space.

    The melting of the sky reminds us of a molten liquid like oil or melted metal. The sky will turn incandescent taking on an angry red color. As Paul Davies said, on that day everything will look like a boiling whirlpool; it will be very much like the color of a crimson rose.

    The masses of water that cover three quarters of the Earthโ€™s surface will suddenly begin to boil; it will be a sight that human eyes will hardly believe. At 4.500 degree (8100 F), the contents of the Earth will be ejected out from every possible opening. This doubtless included what is under the seas. Anyone who has seen a documentary film about how lava erupts into the sea will have witnessed the incredibly frenzy of the water. But something quite different from this will be witnessed on the Last Day; the horror will be much more extensive. All the seas of the Earth will be on fire and people will be overtaken by an unavoidable mixture of flames and sparks. On that day all the seas will be ablaze literally turned into blood.


  47. @GP & ZOE

    Cont’d

    All life on land and in the sea will come to an end. The normally quiet and tranquil seas will suddenly radiate a terrible heat; waves will be replaced by gigantic clouds of flame. The smoke in the atmosphere will use up most of the oxygen. The violent churning of the endless seas burning with flames of fire will be accompanied by many disasters. Underwater earthquake, huge waves occur on the surface of the water. As a result of the violent earthquakes unleashed by the collision of a heavenly body with the Earth, swelling waters will engulf communities and cities, and destroy islands moving them out of their place. In addition, changes in the ecological system will melt glaciers and cause the level of the waters to rise.

    When this period decreed by God reaches its end, terrifying events will occur in a series. A horrible noise coming from everywhere, the rending of the mountains, lava flowing under peopleโ€™s feet, all enveloping dust, clouds of smoke and gas, boiling water flowing over peopleโ€ฆ.this great day will bring sudden pangs of horror to those who preferred not to think about the existence of God or appreciate His greatness; it will break the stubbornness of absolutely everyone and show them how helpless they are; it will show everyone the uselessness of the things they once valuedโ€ฆ this will be a day when people will not be able to describe the fear and terror that is within them. They will run around in circles searching for a place to hide asking the rocks to hide them from Him who sits on the Throne. But everyone knows that there is no escape from this day.

    Scenes from the LAST DAY OF HUMAN EXISTENCE***…


  48. @Terence M. Blackett…

    What, exactly, are you smoking?


  49. Re @GP, Zoe and TMBโ€ฆ
    But what if you are wrong?
    IT DOES NOT MATTER. WE HAVE LIVED HAPPY FULFILLING LIVES JUST AS YOU CONSIDER YOUR LIFE TO BE HAPPY $ FULFILLING.

    What if, instead of the second coming, we simply all find ourselves in a *really* uncomfortable environment?

    AT THE SECOND PHASE OF THE SECOND COMING MEN WILL INDEED simply all find themselves in a *really* uncomfortable environment.

    THE BELIEVERS WOULD HAVE LEFT IN THE RAPTURE.

    If we are wrong, we wont be worse of than you then would we?

    FORTUNATELY WE ARE NOT WRONG

    Just as Quantum Mechanics is irrelevant to mice, it is irrelevant to MOST MEN. How many people you think care about or need to know about Quantum Mechanics for happy, fulfilled lives?

    You think that Cow Williams cares about Quantum Mechanics when he playing polo or making millions?

    Re What, exactly, are you smoking?

    Did you in your haste to condemn the man,, note that he was quoting from a book?


  50. @Georgie Porgie: “IT DOES NOT MATTER. WE HAVE LIVED HAPPY FULFILLING LIVES JUST AS YOU CONSIDER YOUR LIFE TO BE HAPPY $ FULFILLING.

    I respectfully disagree, on simply moral grounds…

    If you are wrong, what have you left to your (and everyone’s) children? And theirs? And theirs? And theirs?

    Life is not just about *you*. Your life is also about what you leave behind for those who follow (no joke intended).

    @GP: “THE BELIEVERS WOULD HAVE LEFT IN THE RAPTURE.

    If, and *ONLY* if (!!!) you are correct. What if you are wrong?

    @GP: “FORTUNATELY WE ARE NOT WRONG

    You *don’t* KNOW* *this*.

    You may believe it strongly and deeply, but you do *NOT* *KNOW* *THIS*.

    You *might* be wrong.

    @GP: “You think that Cow Williams cares about Quantum Mechanics when he playing polo or making millions?

    No.

    But he should be thankful of it, because it is why he’s able to be conscience. (See Roger Penrose.)

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