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customer-feedbackThe BLP may be guilty of many sins of commission and omission more so in the last 25 or so years but the demise of sugar is not one of them. Sugar was awarded preferential treatment in the UK market and enjoyed above world market price since colonial times. Guaranteed prices, not competitive advantage, enabled the extensive cultivation of sugar cane. Without it Barbados could not have achieved its present state of development. The end of preference in the post EU/ Free Trade era meant declining profitability for the labour intensive industry (the region’s banana industry suffered similar fate when the Clinton administration prevailed on the EU to remove the “preferential barriers” to free trade). Don’t be too quick to blame the plantocracy. Sugar is a brutal reminder that now, as always, our existence depended on hand-outs.

Naturally land went out of production. Why we did not diversify? Diversification, hardly a buzz word at the time, required capital, technology and human skills, all of which were and remain in short supply. Up to now we don’t have proper science lab facilities for high schools students or in which to carry out research. The one at Harrison College is best suited for a museum. Yes the plantocracy had invested in the plant and made it more efficient. But it was also easier to invest profits in Africa and elsewhere and get a 10% return for doing nothing, which is quite natural. Contrary to popular belief one goes into business primarily to make money not to develop the economy.

That said, by the 1980s and certainly the 1990s when the fate of sugar was patently clear to all the government and the private sector should have ‘intervened’ and design a clear cut agricultural policy. Here both parties must be faulted, but most of the blame lies with the previous administration. The latter sold out the country in more ways than one.

Dark Knight the man may or may not be bright, but be careful how you state the case. The statement could give readers unfamiliar with Harrison College the wrong impression about the school, especially the inherently biased who are wont to believe that anything black could be superior to theirs.

Harrison College was one of the very best institutions of its kind found anywhere in the western world and, as Oxford and Cambridge will attest, noted for the quality of scholars it produced. Four Rear Admirals passed through its portals, and so too the only Negro, Henderson Clarke, to win a case at the world court before returning home. Others, black and white, attained prominent positions in the world of academe and elsewhere. For this we must give thanks to the white Headmaster. That the school is no longer what it used to be is a testament to the declining state of our socio-cultural environment.

That a person did not demonstrate ‘brightness’ at school does not mean he is of limited intellect. The men who founded Kentucky Fry Chicken and Disneyland never finished high school. Bill Gates (Microsoft) dropped out of university after a year, so too Austin Clarke. At Combermere not much was expected of my class. Today, with the exception of one who was too poor to live and a couple I’m unable to track down, all the others are successful professionals: chemical and mechanical engineers, psychiatrists, dentists, accountants, lawyers, professors and economists in North America and England. And so too a plethora of Harrisonians. Unlike the bright boys who ended up in the civil service they went abroad.

GBL opines it seems easier to collect in the short term than to…take a little longer to generate wealth for the country. Well in the short term prices and the cost of living will continue to rise, personal income will remain stagnant at best and debt will continue to rise. Tourism, construction and services are basically low wage industries whose employment generating capacity depends on and is severely impacted by circumstances beyond our control. To date the labour market has been and will be unable to absorb school-leavers and university graduates, which means that unemployment and under-employment will rise.

The doors to low level manpower export—seasonal migrant workers in US and Canada— are largely closed. With the supply of manpower greater than the demand, wages will likely remain stagnant or fall. Soon university arts graduates will have to settle for the clerical jobs…like bank tellers… normally reserved for high school grads who will have to look elsewhere for employment. The result: diminishing returns to investment in education for both the individual and the country. Given this scenario, optimism notwithstanding, it is difficult to see anything other than ongoing progressive retrogression. The subject of education will be addressed at a later date.

BAFBFP suggests our population is too small to support the manufacture of processed foods and we should look toward semi-processed goods. Externally determined market prices and high media costs are cited as impediments. I’m talking about small industries. Like sugar, the vast majority of today’s mega businesses began as small enterprises. Am I to understand that Bajans don’t eat and drink? It wouldn’t cost a fortune to start small and service local demand.

Fish is a natural chemical free product and more healthy that imported meat and meat products. A constant supply of low cost fish would more than offset the increasing high costs of meat and meat products. Consumers will have a little more money to spend on other things, enhance employment and revenue for government. The same is true for the other products alluded to. If there was no external demand for our fish a certain country would not be in the process to take them out of our waters.

Flying fish is a rare, unique commodity not much known outside the region. The fact that it is a delicacy in some high-end hotels suggests there is a market, and by extension fish related items. People can’t buy what they can’t get or don’t know about. Perhaps our problem is not cost of production per se but the lack of vision, knowledge about the world, organization, market targeting and penetration.

Remember the shirt jack? Many moons ago the manager of a large department store in Toronto saw a friend of mine with one, fell in love with it and expressed an interest. My friend approached his friend at Mapps, apprised him of the possibilities and requested a few to present Canadian business houses; and was told that he would have to buy them. Where is Mapps today?

A large order for shirts from Germany fell by the wayside. True we could not fill it. But they were shirt factories in some of the islands (Guyana and Trinidad) through which we could have out-sourced—they make some of the parts and we put them together. Outsourcing was not a novel idea at the time. Boeing, Airbus and General Motors are basically assembly plants. But not only did we not understand; among other things we wanted the whole hog or nothing.

Sears fell in love with a mahogany desk on display at a show and placed an order for 200 which also fell by the wayside. We had the skills and know-how but not the mahogany. It occurred to no one that the mahogany could have been imported from Honduras. Nor have we thought of planting the trees.

In the 1940s and 50s they were black business houses like the Maxwells, Webster, Stuart and Sampson and the Tudors on the island. These businesses were started by persons without a high school education. James Tudor had what operated a successful franchise at a time when franchising was in its infancy in North America. Few of their offspring headed for a university education, but none got involved to carry on the business. As a result they all went under.

Then Dipper came along and placed business in black hands, the idea being that they would help other blacks to start their own business. Wishful thinking. Only about three of them are alive today including Rayside and Leacock which are now foreign owned. Meanwhile a young, white Harrisonian left the bank to enter his father’s small business in Roebuck Street. Today he is a very successful businessman. Are whites smarter and better disposed than blacks? Does the now generation have the smarts, integrity and desire to go into business for themselves? Or would history be repeated if given a leg up by the current administration?


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  1. Looking Glass wrote “Sugar is a brutal reminder that now, as always, our existence depended on hand-outs.”

    I strongly disagree with you.

    No Looking Glass we Barbadians have always worked hard in order to EARN our living. We HAVE NOT lived on handouts.

    The people of Barbados have always worked hard, and they were frequently worked brutally hard.

    What handouts are you talking about? If a person has worked in the fields from 4 to 84, and never drank, nor smoked, nor partied, nor engaged in any indulgence, and at the end of life only had an 18 x 10 with holes in the floor, where do you think that the fruits of their labour went? Do you really believe that the hard work of the sugar cane labourers was worth nothing? Do you really believe that the sugar preferences paid since the 1960’s could really make up for many. many generations of unpaid labour? and many, many other generations of poorly paid labour?

    The labour of many, many generations of Barbadians from the time of enslavement up to to 1960’s enriched the plantation owners and enriched England.

    I worked in the sugar fields myself up until the late 1970’s

    If you are going to tell lies I’d strongly advise you to have the decency to wait until I am dead.

  2. Jukecheckedeyskirt Avatar
    Jukecheckedeyskirt

    Our thinking, when it comes to development, is to boxed in. We will suffer immensely if we do not surpass our small island mentality and start thinking much bigger. We need to invest so we can reserch properly and thoroughly new ways to engage in meaningful industry. Our failure to do this will continue in our current dependent mentality.


  3. Dear Looking Glass you also wrote “Unlike the bright boys who ended up in the civil service they went abroad.”

    Are you suggesting that that bright men (and women) should not offer to perform public service?

    Are you suggesting that those bright men and women who dedicated themselves to public service are losers?

    And can you please suggest to me and to the BU family some ways in which any country can have a good public service and be a decent place to live if bright people do not offer to perform public service.

    I do not doubt that some of your migratory “chemical and mechanical engineers, psychiatrists, dentists, accountants, lawyers, professors and economists in North America and England.” are now seeking to return to Barbados in their declining years. They have made little contribution to Barbados but they are returning home to accept public service from the same public servants which you hold in such contempt.


  4. My first job after leaving school was to work at a sugar factory. I was the youngest overseer at a sugar factory. I worked 13 days and 1 off day. I know of workers that slept on the job and were on call 24/7. Bajans worked hard and are still orking hard. Like in all societies, there are the lazy ones but Barbados didn’t get to this stage of development through hand-outs, it came by many of our fore-parents working extremely hard and taking a lot of insults to get this country to what it is today. I came in at the back-end of the struggles and I too took some insults from the white man to succeeed in life. That’s why I’m so adamant that my children don’t go through the same hardship that my ancestors and I went through. If we have become a mendicant society it is because the modern day politician and especially during the BLP administration may bajans believe that they are fairy godfathers. This was for Owen &Co to allow the slogan to be created that bajans are lazy. It was through the hard work and thriftiness of bajans that many are living a good life today.


  5. Looking Glass wrote “Harrison College was one of the very best institutions of its kind found anywhere in the western world…That the school is no longer what it used to be is a testament to the declining state of our socio-cultural environment.”

    Harrison College today is providing a better education to more people that at any other time in its history.

    It is clear that Looking Glass is incapable of thinking.


  6. Not speaking for Looking Glass but could he be speaking at a
    macro-level when he refers to hand-outs?


  7. Dark Knight is simple long-winded, smug and confused.


  8. Dear David:

    But it is especially at the macro level it cannot be said that “as always, our existence depended on hand-outs.”

    At the macro level Bajans as a whole have been are are still a very hard working people. At the micro level, yes, there are a few lazy ones, but the lazy ones are in a minority.

    I don’t normally agree with the Scout, but except for the dig at the BLP I agree with most of his post above.


  9. It is NOT clear that Looking Glass is incapable of thinking! However J’s response (to LG’s comment on HC) suggest not only shallowness of analysis but unwarranted arrogance.

  10. St George's Dragon Avatar
    St George’s Dragon

    The word “hand-out” is an emotive one but the point is well made – the UK purchased sugar from us at prices above the World market rates for years. I don’t know whether that makes it a hand-out or not. Stating this fact should not be seen to imply criticism of the efforts of the workers who were involved in sugar production (unless it was meant, of course), perhaps rather criticism of whoever made the decision to continue with sugar rather than some other crop.
    Looking to the future, I believe that Barbados needs a higher value crop. Has anyone looked at cut flower production – heliconias, gingers etc. The climate is right, at least in some areas of the island and they sell for a fortune in florists in Europe. Can we make more money at that?


  11. And no, I did not go to HC, nor Caw’mere, nor Lodge, nor CP, nor St. MIchael’s nor etc. etc.

    But the truth is the truth.

    Harrison College and Combermere and many other schools are providing a better education to far more people than at any time in their history.

    Cheeze on bread man. Read the Looking Glass’ submissions again. The man cannot even write a sentence. I bet that most Combermere graduates in the 21st century can write far better than the old Looking Glass.

    Methinks that the he should change his handle to Rose Tinted (looking back at the past) Looking Glass.


  12. To quote the Looking Glass “Harrison College… is no longer what it used to be”

    You are right.

    For most of its history Harrison College was a school for duncy white boys (and a few bright ones).

    Nowadays it is a school for bright black girls.

    If the Looking Glass has a problem with that, I most certainly do not.


  13. @ Scout,

    Barbados became a begging society between 1991 and 1994.

    So much so that by 1996, the IADB was reporting that the level of poverty in Barbados was 13.9% or that 35,000 persons or 14,000 households were in poverty.

    It was the BLP that moved umemployment from some 26.2% in 1994 to 6.7% up to december 2007.

    With Barbados again under “DLP RULE” the DLP is again creating serious MESS, which has so far seen over 3,000 lost their jobs while the level of poverty in Barbados (like crime) is on the rise – just like the period 1991-1994, under the DLP.


  14. St. George’s Dragon wrote “the UK purchased sugar from us at prices above the World market rates for years.”

    And I reply “For hundreds of years the UK purchased sugar from us at rates that did not include anything for labour.”

    Some might say that the for hundreds of years the U.K and other European countries got sugar a highly valuable commodity without having to factor in any labour cost.

    Some might say that that system was very unfair to the people who forked, and planted, and weeded, and manured, and cut and loaded the sugar cane and who sweated, got sick and died in the sugar cane fields.

    And yes I am one of those people who believe that the system which existed for hundreds of years was unfair and WICKED.

    Do fa do ain’t no obeah.


  15. @J

    • I do not doubt that some of your migratory “chemical and mechanical engineers, psychiatrists, dentists, accountants, lawyers, professors and economists in North America and England.” are now seeking to return to Barbados in their declining years. They have made little contribution to Barbados but they are returning home to accept public service from the same public servants which you hold in such contempt.
    **************************************
    Could you articulate once and for all what you have against Barbadians who have worked in foreign lands and return home on retirement? It seems that you couldn’t resist adding some contemptuous comment about them making “little contribution to Barbados but are returning home to accept public service”. This is not the first time that you have alluded to returning bajans as a burden to the social services on the island. Please define what “little contribution” means so we all know where we stand according to your standards.

    I should remind you that only a small percentage of those who leave return permanently, the vast majority stay in their adopted homes because of family, business and other commitments or simply because they like their lifestyle and where they live.

    BTW many of those who migrated and returned did not become “chemical and mechanical engineers etc.”, they worked for London Transport or in British or US factories and hospitals (and I don’t mean as nurses or doctors). Are they all in the same boat or do you have different categories according to occupation or level of achievement?


  16. I think one of the major questions, is:

    When will the ruling DLP operationalise the Scotland District Authority, which was intended by the BLP to stabilize the land in the Scotland District, which is one-seventh of Barbados’ land space?

    What accounts for the reluctance of the ruling DLP to provide subsidies for people to undertake agricultural activity in the Scotland District – from fruit trees, to non sugar agriculture?

    Is it because the DLP’s idea of agriculture is: Rat Poison, African Snails; 4H and Sweet Peppers?

    It is that thinking that caused this country to loose millions from not moving towards a sugar cane industry – as intended by the BLP.

    As I understand it, all of the plans were left. All the ruling DLP had to do, was a little work.


  17. Sargeant wrote “Could you articulate once and for all what you have against Barbadians who have worked in foreign lands and return home on retirement?”

    Actually Sarge I have nothing agianst thes e people. Like most Bajans, some of these people are my sisters and brothers and neices and nephews etc. and other people whom I love very much.

    But hey!! Facts are facts.


  18. @J

    Please tell us what you mean by “little contribution” and, what are these “facts” that you speak of?


  19. Has the DLP abandoned plans started by the BLP for a Sugar Cane Industry, hence the sugar factory at Buckeley?

    As I understand it, the BLP had intended that instead of exporting Barbadian sugar as a bulk commodity it would move towards a sugar cane industry that produces specialty sugars.

    It would have then used the cane to help make pharmaceuticals, and other products.

    There would also have been the capacity for ethanol.

    Unfortunately, under DLP rule, Barbados has lost its way.

    These days all we are hearing about is Rat Poison, African Snails, 4H and Sweet Peppers.


  20. More on Barbados Sugar cane Industry:

    Here is part of what the Opposition Leader said during the Estimates debate on Agriculture:

    “Sir, we had gotten the Barbados Light and Power Company Limited to agree to take equity into the company. They agreed to buy back the electricity that it would be producing.

    We also agreed, Sir, that we will be taking some of the material from Mangrove to help produce the electricity.

    We also agreed that we would take Buckeley Sugar Factory in the heart of St. George – not a word from the Honourable Member for St. George South – to create a living museum, in order to be able to create jobs for people from Ellerton and elsewhere, so that they could still have economic activity, where heritage tourism would effectively come to them in the parish of St. George.

    Sir, would you believe that this would have been relegated to the back burner, if any burner at all, simply because the Minister of State in Finance, does not deem it a priority.

    Sir, poor Minister of Agriculture this, and the sea island cotton have been put on the back burner.

    Would you believe, Sir, that there is nothing in these Estimates to allow Barbadians to maintain national security, in terms of food, to be able to reduce a $1/2 billion import bill?

    Source: BLP webpage


  21. Should Looking Glass be condemned for his views? no! he had the courage to publicly say what is thought by many Barbadians of a certain period, he has done Barbadians a favour by giving a personal view, but it is not singularly held.

    It is very difficult to make an informed analysis of the Barbados economy of the last hundred years without a close examination of Barbados’ “social structure”, because it was that which determined opportunities. A person advances in the parameters which the society in which they live determine, to say otherwise is to be disingenuous with the truth.

    This is not to make excuses for sections of Barbadian society, it is a simple fact. We often hear what has limited progress in business to the majority ethnic group, is their inability to have strong family relationships in business…this is just plain silly.

    It is possible to have a very successful business in a person’s lifetime, it could be extinguished on death that does not matter…we are not speaking of a dynasty. However, with a “continuum” of successful businesses and a “spread” of the same, a family dynasty is irrelevant.

    If the opportunities were more wide spread – by capital being made available fairly to all sections in past years the present situation would not exist – it would have unleashed an “energy” for success over a spread of the population. Many small businesses would have sprung up and from this “dynamic” success would have evolved and the disparity now evident would not have been possible… Barbados would really have advanced.


  22. Sargeant asked “Please tell us what you mean by “little contribution” and, what are these “facts” that you speak of?”

    Some Barbadians who live abroad have never paid little or no taxes in Barbados (except for land tax which is a pittance compared to the income tax and VAT paid by the Bajans at home). Some Barbadians who live at home pay $5,000 or $10,000 or $20,000 or more in income tax, land tax, VAT and NIS EACH year for 5 or 10 or 20 or more years.

    Some Barbadians who live abroad have received loans from the student revolving loan fund and have received Barbados scholarships and exhibitions and in turn have never paid any taxes in Barbados, nor repatriated any of thier skills to Barbados.

    A good number left their children behind to be raised by Bajans and educated by Bajan tax money. Sometimes these children migrate as adults and then pelt a rock at Barbados.

    A significant number who migrated in thier late teens and early twenties and whose parents were 30 something at the time have forgotten that thier mums and dads became old and sick and needed care with both time and money. A good number never or rarely visit their sick or elerly parents and contribute little or nothing to their upkeep.

    A good number obtained professinal skills abroad and have NEVER put any of that professinal skill to any use in Barbados.

    But hey, I don’t want to beat up anybody, but you asked.


  23. @J
    According to you there are a myriad of things that some Barbadians who departed those shores have or have not done but here is what other Barbadians have done:
    1) They left Barbados at a time when there was no opportunity for them there
    2) They studied or found occupations to enhance their skills
    3) They helped their siblings, children and sometimes parents to emigrate to further their education for those who wanted to and work for those who were inclined to do so
    4) Some of them left jobs in Barbados which meant there was an opportunity for another to step into their shoes
    5) They sent remittances ( Oh how they sent) to support children, relatives and build homes or buy land
    6) They had opportunities that they would not have had had they remained in Barbados
    7) They promoted Barbados at work, home or at play, some of the tourists who arrive at your shores to enhance your standard of living are not there because of the BTA but because some Bajan told them what an enjoyable to place it was to visit

    I could go on but in the interest of brevity I’ll curtail my examples. BTW Isn’t income tax a PAYE system? If people are working in Barbados shouldn’t they shoulder the burden of the island’s taxes?

    Couldn’t you come up with some better examples? The “some” that you cited have no interest in returning to Barbados and if you want people who receive Gov’t loans or grants to study abroad to return to Barbados, why don’t you get your gov’t to ask the students to sign a contract or some document that guarantees their return on completion of their studies? Other countries do it why doesn’t Barbados?

    I don’t know if there have been many studies or books done on the lives of Barbadian migrants abroad but I can direct to at least one. It is titled “Double Passage” , the author is George Gmelch and it was published by University of Michigan Press in 1992

    Read it sometime

  24. Adrian Hinds Avatar

    I love these “Long on Words” contributions that are punctuated the statements such as
    “SOME Barbadians”
    “A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER”
    “A GOOD NUMBER”

    Are these meant to be measurements to prove anything????? chupse.

    What about ; The collective total of monies remitted back to Barbados by these people? is it A GOOD NUMBER?

    What about those who actually made it back? did they come empty handed? did they build houses, do they spend their overseas derived pensions in Barbados? How much could they be contributing by so doing? Could it be a SIGNIFICANT NUMBER?

    [quote]
    A good number obtained professinal skills abroad and have NEVER put any of that professinal skill to any use in Barbados.

    Dr. Carlyle Applewhite returned to Barbados to lend a hand with early childhood education, and was summarily dismissed. My own opinion on why, centered on the fact that he was but a teacher at Parkinson school before leaving for the US. Now I do not know this one situation to be the norm or to be indicative of the core reason for what you contend, but I do believe base on my own experience and that of others that there isn’t necessarily a warmness for Bajan from over in away amongst our brothers and sisters on the rock, and this seemly “us vs. them” relationship was to my mind was intensified further, by the last government’s mixed signals with regards to concessions and FURN (Faciltation Unit for Returning Nationals).


  25. I believe that the present Minister of Finance has pointed out that remittances from Bajans abroad is a significant percentage of B’dos’ foreign exchange income.


  26. How is HC a school for bright, black girls? J talking foolishness as usual! HC is a simply a school for children of both genders resident in Barbados.


  27. PeopIe who emigrated to UK in the 50s and 60s had an opportunity to change their Iives. They had to udergo horribIe racist treatment it was not easy but a Iot decided to stick it out and were abIe to cash in eventuaIIy, by buying their counciI properties at massive discounts, many of which turned into goIdmines when soId because they were in poor areas originaIIy which Iater became bijou, Iike Notting HiII. The Barbados government was deprived of their taxes, yes , but aIso did not have to pay for their heaIth and their chiIdren’s heaIthcare and education. The prudent stashed cash in Barbados bank accounts and shared the weaIth by sending money home to famiIy, money which wouId never have materiaIised otherwise. Those who returned home with pensions and savings enriched the economy. What about the impact Carribeans have had on their adopted homeIands? MUSIC, fashions, food, CarnivaIs, styIe? Not forgetting sports. They changed society, made it more enjoyabIe. The infIuence they had made peopIe want to visit the Caribbean to experience for themseIves the warmth and fun. PeopIe can denigrate the contribution made to nursing or the transport system “just nurses and bus drivers” but many a patient has been gratefuI for the reassuring kindness and professionaIism of the medicaI staff and the responsibIe and friendIy transport personneI, sadIy missing nowadays, of Caribbean migrants.


  28. Sargeant “, why don’t you get your gov’t to ask the students to sign a contract or some document that guarantees their return on completion of their studies? Other countries do it why doesn’t Barbados?”

    People do sign a contract, but a good number are dishonourable people and I doubt that the Barbados government has to means to enforce those contracts


  29. Sargeant “They sent remittances ( Oh how they sent) to support children, relatives and build homes or buy land”

    I paid my mortgage on the 1st of this month and I gave Little Johnny breakfast and lunch this morning. Those are my ordinary duties, not national service.


  30. @J

    You haven’t said anything to bolster your argument about the expatriate Barbadians and their supposed “little contribution” to the island. All I see are generalities which you have applied to “some Barbadians” who according to your criteria have abandoned the island and don’t deserve access to public service institutions should they ever decide to return.

    Since you feel so strongly about the matter could you get your MP to sponsor a bill which sets out the policy under which these Barbadians can return and enjoy access to health or other facilities. It can be based on the time away e.g. after five years-access permitted;10 years away- access grudgingly permitted ;15 years away- fill out an application so we may consider it; after 30 years don’t even bother applying-stay the hell away we don’t even want to bury you in Bim.

    You can call the bill J’s Orders for Barbadian Immigrants or JOBI (pronounced JOBEE)…. So everyone knows what you are talking about


  31. Seargeant “which sets out the policy under which these Barbadians can return and enjoy access to health or other facilities”

    Bring your health insurance with you when you return.

    Since you have spent decades and tens of thousands of dollars paying into the systems where you are you deserve to be taken care of in your old age. Ask your MP to sponsor a bill to make your health insurance portable, so that your contributions can follow you where ever in the world you are.

    That would be a nice win-win situation.


  32. “Ask your MP to sponsor a bill to make your health insurance portable.”

    Why not ask the PM to inplement the BLP’s $5,000 Health and Wellness Allowance, in his Budget.

    Why not ask him to extend the “basket of goods,” as the BLP had intended to do?


  33. Dear Dark Knight

    I was talking about the foreign MP’s.

    Don’t you agree that health insurance shold transfer smoothly across borders?

    Is the DLP working on this?

    Is the BLP?


  34. BU admin,

    I beg to second that motion from the Honourable Member and ask that it stands part.

    You know what friend?

    Soo too will the urgent settlement of the long-awaited Protocol on Contingent Rights that will settle what benefits Caricom citizens will access if they live in another Caricom country.


  35. Dark Knight I don’t only mean across CARICOM borders, I mean as well that health insurance benefits paid for by Caribbean migrants to the cold white north, should flow back home with them when they are old and sick and really in need of health insurance (and health care)

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