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Not since the days of the Gladston Holder columns in the Barbados media have Barbadians been kept abreast of the occurrences which involve the Council for Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission or even the Bilderberg family influence on world politics. Barbadians, including the media appear to be very comfortable ferreting world news from CNN and the BBC.

BU like millions around the world have been enthralled by the new entrant to the White House. President Barack Obama is without question a departure from the old guard. Some say any perceive change should only be taken as token. Many of the appointments in the Obama government represent prominent individuals who have worked in Washington in the recent past and are regarded as part of the status quo. For example, there is the influential position of Secretary of the Treasury Tim Geithner, the former head of the Federal Reserve of New York. How can Geithner be responsible for changing Wall Street when he is a product of the system?

The video above is one hour and 53 minutes long and paints an intriguing picture of Obama and the shadow government which runs the US government. While BU is inclined to ask questions we are not sure we fully buy in to the positions expressed in the video.

What do you think?

Thanks to BU family member Hopi!

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725 responses to “The Obama Deception Video, Deceiver Or Saviour?”

  1. Hopi Avatar
    Hopi

    Queen…….You just used the magic word..IMAGINE. You see it is the imagination that has given life to this entity. And you’ve also admitted that at an earlier period people worshipped a blue-eyed blond, but today that image has changed. I thought that your God and Christ never changed. How has he been transformed into some other being today? Don’t you see a problem here.

    JC…….For a lack of self-knowledge my people perish. We continue to give our power to other beings instead of to ourselves, hence our despicable condition today.

    Zoe……..Ignorance is the mother of devotion and that which we are ignorant of we are devoted to. ‘Reality is synonymous with truth’ Utter tosh, putrid, pure shite. Today African, Palestinians, Iraqis, Afghans face a reality that is based on ONE big phuc…ng lie after the other. Now tell me how the hell can those two be snynonymous? Zoe, Your reality is CREATED for you by the same people who brought you that BIBLE. IT IS ALL AN ILLUSION. John 14:6…Jesus Christ NEVER said those words. That was taken off an inscription of a wall in Kemet when Heru said those same words. NOT YOUR NON-EXISTENT Jesus.

  2. Zoe Avatar
    Zoe

    HOPI, the light that is in YOU is DARKNESS, O’ how great is that DARKNESS!

  3. David Avatar
    David

    We don’t always agree with all that Hopi says but it is important as human beings we never stop exploring the vastland of knowledge. Yesterday we listened with interest to Dr. Don Marshall who agreed with a caller that in ancient history people who were vanquished in war their history was subsumed by those who conquered them. Consequently as a people, Blacks included, we must be very meticulous in how we unravel our history.

    Here is another story which came out in the discussion which we found interesting. Not too long ago there was strong theory which supported the view that it was unlikely for a 6′ 5″ bean pole to be a good sprinter. Today we have a sprinter who has smashed that theory to smithereens.

    Of course a caller or two were quick to accused Marshall as promoting conspiracy theory. Barbadians have become so comfortable to news/history that is comfortably wrapped that many of our minds have become shut to new information.

  4. Hopi Avatar
    Hopi

    Zoe……Before there was a beam of light in the entire universe (ours and theirs) there was DARKNESS and out of this DARKNESS came the LIGHT. The BLACKNESS existed before there was WHITE or LIGHT. Read your same bible and it will tell you that. In my darkness I find light and this light is leading me to a knowledge of self. I’ll continue to live in this great DARKNESS while you enjoy your illusionary light.

    Anedj Herak Amun Ra.

  5. Zoe Avatar
    Zoe

    HOPI, you are so filled with Hatred, Anger, and Venomous, Vacuous, Venal Poison, that you are utterly unable to reason any thing that is TRUTH!

    Stop misquoting God’s Word, in the Genesis account of Creation, God said:

    “And the earth WAS WITHOUT FORM, and VOID: and DARKNESS was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters. then God said, Let there be LIGHT, and there was LIGHT.”

    And God saw the LIGHT, that it was GOOD, and God divided the LIGHT from the DARKNESS. And God called the LIGHT Day, and the DARKNESS He called Night.” (Gen. 1:2-5a). emphasis added.

    Light has nothing to do with WHITE, anymore than DARKNESS has to do with BLACK.

    Light in God’s Word is a metaphor for spiritual righteousness, goodness, godliness, which only comes through a personal relationship with Jesus Christ; and multiplied millions of ALL COLOURS of people, Black, White, Brown, and Yellow, across the nations of the world have FOUND this in Christ.

    Conversely, multitudes of Blacks, Whites and all other shades of people, who have chosen to reject God’s offer of forgiveness in Jesus Christ, REMAIN in spiritual DARKNESS, not the COLOUR of their SKIN, but the spiritual condition of their spirit/soul, minds.

    There is NOT one once of peace, joy, or real purpose emanating from within you, Hopi, for you are so filled with RAGE, and DARKNESS of your soul, that you can onky speak forth, what IS WITHIN you.

    Is this what Ra and all the other false gods has given to you? You are a
    festering mess of humanity, you have allowed the father of all lies, Satan to consume your mind and soul with his DARKNESS.

    Yes, you have chosen ‘…to live in this great DARKNESS, the evidence of which is blatantly obvious, POISON, HATED, destruction and death.

    Like multitudes of others, covering every shade of colour, I have chosen to follow Him, who said, ‘In Him (Jesus) was LIFE and the LIFE was the LIGHT of men. And the LIGHT shines in the DARKNESS, and the DARKNESS did not COMPREHEND it.” (John. 1: 4-5).

    The DARKNESS of men do NOT understand it, the LIGHT. The Darkness will NEVER be able to eliminate it. Light and darkness are essentially antagonistic. The Christians joy is in knowing that LIGHT is not only greater than darkness, but will outlast the darkness.

    Jesus said, “And this is the condemnation, that LIGHT (Himself) has come into the world, and men loved DARKNESS rather than LIGHT, because their deeds were evil. For everyone practicing EVIL hates the LIGHT and does NOT come to the LIGHT, lest their deeds should be exposed. But he who does the TRUTH comes to the LIGHT, that his deeds maybe clearly seen, that they have been done of God.” (John. 19-21).

    The Lamp of the Body.

    “The lamp of the body is the eye. If therefore your eye is good, your whole body will be full of LIGHT. But, if your eye is bad, your whole body will BE FULL OF DARKNESS. If therefore (Hopi) the light that is in you is DARKNESS, how great is that DARKNESS.” (Matt. 6:22,23).

    You, Hopi, have chosen DARKNESS, clearly expressed in all of your raving and ranting!

  6. Facts Avatar
    Facts

    What “deception?” Just another conspiracy theory.

  7. BAFBFP Avatar
    BAFBFP

    Facts

    People conspire every day. It is natural.

  8. Hopi Avatar
    Hopi

    Zoe……You cannot convince me therefore you condemn me and this condemnation, my friend, is a psychosis of the christian mind. I’ll leave you with one thing to ponder. Why is it that when they portrayed your christ they always have a Halo around his head? For all beings in this realm, which one is necessary for the continuation of life the SUN or the Christ the Son?

  9. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    And this is the condemnation, (or basis for final judgement) that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds
    were evil. John 3:19

    With respect to your question “For all beings in this realm, which one is necessary for the continuation of life the SUN or the Christ the Son?”

    Well Scientists have documented that there are many life forms in both the depths of the sea, and in very dark holes on land that live in the dark and are not dependent on the SUN for life.

    We already know that the SUN does not prevent life from dying. That is the SUN does not perpetuate the continuation of life indefinitely. Ah lie?

  10. Hopi Avatar
    Hopi

    I see you skirted the question with a 1/2 -ass answer. So ya 1/2 lie! If the sun does not perpetuate the continuation of life what does? And I take it that those that live in the depths of the sea and the very dark holes are dependent on Christ the Son? Just skirting your reply! Do you and I need the SUN or the Christ the Son for continuation of life? That’s the question. And what’s up with the Halo around Christ’s head?

  11. Zoe Avatar
    Zoe

    Hopi said, “For all the beings in this realm, which one is necessary for the continuation of life the SUN or Christ the Son?

    Who created the Universe and all life on earth, and who keeps it going?

    The answer to this is found in God’s Word.

    “In the beginning was the Word (Jesus), and the Word (Jesus) was with God (The Father) and the Word (Jesus) was God. (The Son).

    ‘He (Jesus) was in the beginning with God. All thing were made through Him (Jesus) and without Him (Jesus) nothing was made that was made.” (John 1: 1-3).

    “For by Him (Jesus) ALL THINGS were created that are in Heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. ALL THINGS were CREATED through and for Him. And He (Jesus) is before ALL THINGS, and in Him (Jesus) ALL THINGS consist.” (Colossians 1:16, 17) emphasis added.

    Now, how could the SUN, which was Created by Jesus Christ, the Son of God, be the reason for the perpetuity of Life, when the source and reason for the very Creation of Life came from Christ. Yes, the Sun is important to the sustenance of many life forms, BUT, the first cause of the SUN, is the SON of God, who created ALL THINGS.

    “In Him (Christ) were created…” (v.16) explaing the Primacy of Christ in the work of creation, this central activity of Jesus in the work of creation of ALL THINGS is presented also in John 1:3 and Hebrews 1:2. The whole of creative activity is summed up in Christ including the angels in heaven and every thing on earth. “Have been created” The permanence of the Universe rests, then, on Christ. ‘In Him’ as the sphere of activity; “And unto Him” Therefore, because He is “Before ALL THINGS” (v.17) the precedence of Christ in time and the Preeminence as Creator are both stated sharply. See the claim of Jesus to Eternal timeless existence in John 8:58; 17:5. See also Rev. 23:13 where Christ calls Himself the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning (arche) and the End (telos).

    A vitally important word in verse 17, “…and in Him ALL things CONSIST.” Consist is from the Greek word, [sunesteken] meaning ‘to place together’ and here ‘to cohere’ to hold together. Therefore, Christ IS the controlling and unifying power that ALL things, were just not created, BUT, is the very force and power that keeps everything in nature.

    The Lord Jesus Christ, who is God of very God, God the Son, holds the SUN in the palm of His hand like an atom! Without Him the SUN would not exist, nor any other life forms.

  12. Zoe Avatar
    Zoe

    Halo is not a word found in the Bible, God’s Word. It was obviously placed around the head of Jesus in the painting made by the Roman Catholic church,depicting a circle or disc of light surroung the head of Jesus; symbolizing the glory associated with Him. This can also be seen round a luminous body, especially the sun and the moon; from the Greek word ‘halos’ threshing floor, disc of the moon or sun.

    The Glory and Majesty of The Lord Jesus Christ, cannot be fathomed by our finite minds; BUT, when He does come again, in His Second Advent, ALL people alive at that time, including those who scoff and mock Him, will see Him in His absolute Majesty as He descends in Glory, to Judge this Evil world.

  13. Hopi Avatar
    Hopi

    Zoe…..You have just proven my point with the word SUNesteken. The 1st three letters of that word is SUN. The Greeks knew of the power of the SUN and that it was this entity that held life together and not the christ the Son.

    When the SUN was brought to life, the Christ the SON was nowhere around. When the Almighty spoke the Word is was the literal word i.e. ‘Let there be Light’ that’s the Word not Jesus the Son. Since Christianity is only about 2k yrs old where was this Jesus Christ? Why didn’t the Creator reveal him to the others who preceded the white man on this planet. Why did the Creator wait for the white man? Since all things were made by him, thru him and for him why is it that those like the Africans who preceded the white didn’t know of him if they were supposed to worship him? Why would the Creator hold that back from the Africans or the Chinese? The Creator, even though he Created them didn’t like them? He only favoured the white man? Zoe? Why? Why? And where in your bible is there any mention of Jesus christ being born on December 25th?

    I didn’t say that halo was in the bible so there’s no need to become defensive. There was no glory surrounding Jesus. That’s why they put a Halo that is seen around the SUN around the Son to give the impressionable and gullible the belief that the Son possessed the qualities of the SUN.

  14. Anonymous Avatar
    Anonymous

    Hopi

    You are such an ass!

  15. Hopi Avatar
    Hopi

    Anonymous…Think coward suits you better. Going into this age of Aquarius it is an honor to be in such an esteemed class as ‘you are are such an ass’ esp. on the issue of the SUN v. the SON. I am honoured.

  16. Zoe Avatar
    Zoe

    Hopi, I truly understand all of your questions, and why you feel this way; there are very reasonable answers for each and every one of them; Biblically and historically; BUT, unfortunately and sadly, your mind is so filled with MYTH, anger and hatred, that you are unable to reason objectively, which makes it an exercise in futility to educate you; as your mind is under siege from the very false dieties, Satan and his demons.

    You keep trusting the SUN, I’ll keep trusting the SON of God, who has transformed every shade of mankind, all over the earth, living, vibrant, proof of His Eternal Power and spiritual reality, who has given us PEACE, JOY, and PURPOSE in the gift of Eternal Life, ALL ACROSS the nations of the earth.

    Jesus Christ, gives LOVE for hatred, PEACE instead of anger, JOY instead of rage, HOPE for despair, HEAVEN instead of eternal torment and damnation in HELL.

    You, Hopi, have made your choice with multitudes of others, misery, destruction and death.

    Millions of your black brothers and sisters, have seen and experienced the LIGHT and TRUTH, to be found Only in The Lord Jesus Christ, whites, and every other colour as well, JESUS CHRIST is not the white man’s God, He gave His life on Calvary’s Cross, for ALL of mankind, that WHOSOEVER, believes, surrenders their heart and life, to Him, as Saviour and Lord, will have His Peace, Joy, and the Gift of Eternal Life.

    The Living, real empirical Evidence of this Transforming reality, through Jesus Christ, is there for all to witness and see, in every country through the world; you, Hopi can continue to live in Denial, Deception, Destruction, and Death.

    So it be!

  17. Hopi Avatar
    Hopi

    Zoe……what you are trying to do is to indoctrinate me NOT educate. Why was Jesus Christ brought to humanity through the white man and not the Black man. Stop spewing your darts at me and answer. Is that answer written in your Bible?

  18. Anonymous Avatar
    Anonymous

    Q. Why was Jesus Christ brought to humanity through the white man and not the Black man.
    A Does it matter? If it was brought through the Black man rather than the white man, might not the white man ask the same silly question that you are asking?

  19. Zoe Avatar
    Zoe

    Hopi, you are so blinded in your Mythological ignorance, you wouldn’t know, you would never know, nor understand!

    Answer me this: If this ancient, highly advanced civilization, that you speak of, in every area of human endeavor, who were in contact with the ‘real’ god(s), and others were so backward and ignorant, how come these backward people(s) were able in their uneducated ‘ignorance’ to overcome these so advanced cultures, and supposedly turn everything around, where the very opposite then occured?

    If, these ancient civilizations, so advanced, as you claim, and had personal ‘contact’ with ALL of these gods, who according to you, were (are) the true deities, THEN, none of this oppression should have taken place!

    Its not making any sense Hopi, something is terribly wrong in this whole equation. If ‘your’ gods are the Omnipotent, all knowing true dieties, then HOW COME, they all failed in delivering your kind? For Omnipotence CANNOT be overcome by impotent, powerless, limited false deities!

    How come from way back in antiquity, ALL of these civilizations, ALL came crashing down, IF their gods were suppose to be the real gods? How come, that Only one ancient people, are still in tact, surviving the most horrific despersion throughout the nations of the world, fulfilling ALL that was written about them thousands of years ago, and all of their enemies from antiquity are GONE? Bearing in mind, that Only a True God, could fulfill in such historic detail, every thing that was spoken concerning them.

    Against ALL odds, they have literally survived, though almost becoming extinct, exactly as spoken by their God. How come your gods, if they are Omnipotent, have not preserved your kind the same way? Are they not able to keep their promises? Just wondering!

  20. Anonymous Avatar
    Anonymous

    Hopi
    You can BLOCK out JESUS , THE LIGHT but you cant PUT out the LIGHT that JESUS has put abroad for all to embrace.

    The entrance of God’s Word giveth LIGHT!

    Men without Jesus are dark and dead and doomed because JESUS IS THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD.

  21. Hopi Avatar
    Hopi

    Zoe……For every Zoe, there is a Hopi, so you are just beating your head against a brick wall. Don’t try to put words in my mouth. Did you ever hear me say that ‘my’ Gods are the omnipotent, all knowing, true dieties? Isn’t that your claim? FYI I have no gods. There is ONE Almighty Creator and this Creator is manifested thru many different entities (and no Jesus christ is not one of them). ‘My advance’ civilization was destroyed simply because they practised the principles of ma’at where they treated everyone with respect even the peckawood foreigners whom they welcomed with open arms and who then turned against them. That’s how that civilization fell and that has always been the problem with Black people to this day..we are too damn willing to welcome the peckawood and accept everthing he says as TRUTH. That’s root of our collective destruction. We need to see the peckawood for what he really is!

    Pray tell who is this Only ancient people that are still surviving today despite horrific dispersion? Who are these people? And why did ‘God’ choose the peckawood to bring Jesus to us?

  22. Zoe Avatar
    Zoe

    Hopi, “Pray tell who is this Only ancient people that are still surviving today despite horrific dispersion? Who are these people? And why did ‘God’ choose the peckawood to bring Jesus to us?

    YOU, Hopi, or no one else, can dictate to Almighty God, who He chooses, or not chooses, for:

    “That the Most High rules in the kingdom of men. Gives it to WHOMEVER He will, And sets over it the lowest of men.” (Daniel 4: b).

    Yes, the immediate context of this verse is in relation to Nebuchadnezzar and the Babylonian Empire; but it holds true throught history.

    Yes, how true, for every Zoe, who has chosen the true LIGHT, Jesus Christ, there will always be another Hopi, who has chosen DARKNESS, destruction, deception and death!

    Keep passing the buck Hopi, keep blaiming others for your own failures; instead of taking responsibiliy for your own, self-chosen, self-inflicted mess!

  23. Technician Avatar
    Technician

    @ Zoe, anonymous et al….

    Without the Bible, can any of you explain any of what you have all said any other way.
    Can any ‘Christian’ show proof OTHER than faith and belief to uphold arguments?
    You see. this is a struggle for me and I dont want to be drawn into this argument (been there, done that with GP,Carlos, Gem of TKI etc.)
    What I would like to see is hard evidence, substantiated proof…..not feelings, emotions or Bible quoting.
    Can this be done??
    If so, I am interested, if you start to answer with a Bible verse…..forget it. Are you all game??

  24. Hopi Avatar
    Hopi

    Zoe……Still, who are these people. How do you conclude that I’m passing the buck? I’m all for bucking the shitstem. Do you care to expound on ‘my failures’? And how do you jump to such a conclusion, simply because I do not believe in this jesus theory?. What is my self-chosen, self-inflicted mess? The christian peckawoods brought us their’ light’ thru the barrel of a gun and has left us with destruction, deception and death. Isn’t that true Zoe? Is that what you my christian sister is accusing me of? Where in the Bible was Jesus Christ born on 25th December? Try getting THE SON to do the job of the SUN, do you think that’s possible?

  25. BAFBFP Avatar
    BAFBFP

    Zoe,

    You disgust me…!

  26. BAFBFP Avatar
    BAFBFP

    Anonymous

    “Men without Jesus are dark and dead and doomed because JESUS IS THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD”

    My God to t’ink you probably get train in our school system. At least yah could read and write. Prais de Lard (whoops … shouldn’t have said that)

  27. Zoe Avatar
    Zoe

    Technician, your insistence that we “Christians” ‘show proof OTHER than faith and belief…without the Bible, can you explain any of what you have all said any other way?”

    Techi, this is a most irrational, illogical, unreasonable request, why?

    Well, all of what we experience, KNOW by living reality, day by day, comes from the very CORE of our ‘faith’ belief, which is cemented in the Bible, the very Word of God, which is PROOF that His Word is true; the TWO cannot be separated; it s like asking a Doctor to forget all of what his/her medical books have taught them; or like asking a Lawyer, a Judge to discard their vast library of jurisprudence volumes, it just CANNOT be done.

    Our Christian reality is established in, on, and through the most attested documents of all antiquity; which I most certainly am not ashamed of, nor will ever be ashamed to quote from, for it VALIDATES our living, vibrant, day by day walk with Our Resurrected Saviour and Lord; and our testimony, VALIDATES what God’s Word, the Bible has declared, that why:

    “For I AM not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ, for IT IS the POWER of God to salvation for EVERYONE who believes, for the Jew first and also the Greek (gentile). For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from FAITH to FAITH, as it is WRITTEN. The just shall live by FAITH.” (Romans 1: 16,17) emphasis added.

    So, Techi, if that troubles you, then forget it!

  28. Zoe Avatar
    Zoe

    BAFBAP, said, “You disgust me…!

    So be it, continue being disgusted!

  29. AFRIKAN ROYALTY Avatar
    AFRIKAN ROYALTY

    a general question i have is how is it that people can put there trust in this bible without a serious analytical and critical look at its dubious past which was decided at the conucil of nicea 325ad that “jesus christ was the son of god and he died for our sins he rose again” all of this came after alexander (THE GREAT MURDERER) closed the temples in ancint kemit where his scholars and so called wise men tried to dechiper the ancient heiroglyphs and books kemit had a concept a one god long before the advent of the european version of christianty

  30. Not Saved Avatar
    Not Saved

    Zoe writes:

    “Techi, this is a most irrational, illogical, unreasonable request, why?”

    —-

    Pot, meet kettle….

  31. Not Saved Avatar
    Not Saved

    Lets recap…

    Zoe – “the bible is written by a supernatural god !!!”

    Tech – “Prove it !”

    Zoe – “Techi, this is a most irrational, illogical, unreasonable request”

    Why of course !

  32. Hopi Avatar
    Hopi

    Zoe……There is absolutely no proof that Jesus Christ existed or exists. This has got to be one of the biggest LIES ever perpetrated on humanity esp. Black people who are by nature a spiritual people and the peckawood knows that Blacks are innately spiritual that is why they were able to successfully force their reLIEgion onto Blacks. And today some of us are left with a psychological impairment brought on by this bogus reliegion which has suppressed our innate spirituality. Why do you think the Haitians are smelling hell today? Simply because they have forsaken the science of their forefathers and have taken on Catholicism. Blacks can’t even fight the peckawood because he has made ‘God’ in his image and therefore ‘God” and the ‘Enemy’ looks alike. That’s why so many of us are confused. When we should be resisting evil we are worshipping it.

    The only thing that validates your living, vibrant, day by day walk is the SUN….without it you are nothing. It is at the core of your existence. Try living without it.

    Wasn’t your Bible written in 1611 by Shakespeare at the behest of King Jimmy Stewart? Isn’t your Christianity about 2k yrs old? What antiquity are you writing of?

    Hotep.

  33. Not Saved Avatar
    Not Saved

    Zoe writes :

    “Our Christian reality is established in, on, and through the most attested documents of all antiquity”

    ——

    Yes and half of it you plagiarised from another, older religion.

    How about those mormons ? they tried that trick too

  34. AFRIKAN ROYALTY Avatar
    AFRIKAN ROYALTY

    the word holy bible comes from the root word helios biblios helios meaning sun biblios meaning book thats also why they placed emphasis on there SUNrise services having they day of worship on SUNday and why most early churchs were built with they altars facing the east all hail RA

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    Not Saved

    please release my posts?

  36. Zoe Avatar
    Zoe

    Hopi, the reason why the Haitians are still smelling Hell, is because they still practice the African Voodooism they brought over with them from their forefathers, plus, the wicked, paganistic false doctrines of Roman Catholicism. It is said, 98 percent in Haiti practice Catholicism, and 100 percent practice Voodoo, which is just another version of ‘Witchcraft.’ No wonger they are still smelling Hell!

    BTW, The KJV Bible was not translated by Shakespeare, nor was it translated by King James, King James commissioned the translation, and it was meticulously done over many, many years, but over 50 of the best Hebrew and Greek scholars from Oxford and Cambridge, who broke up into groups double checking each other to ensure the correct rendering from the two Original languages that Almight God divinely inspired His Word in.

  37. Zoe Avatar
    Zoe

    Any and all documents from antiquity, are very carefully analysed by three basic principles of historiography, to determine the validity of their authourship and the truthfulness of their content. They are the bibliographical test, the internal evidence test, and the external evidence test. It is a FACT, that no other document of antiquity, ever tested, has ever PASSED all these three test, with flying colours, like the New Testament manuscripts.

    In truth and in fact, NO other document of antiquity even begins to approach such numbers and attestation.

    All of this internal and external attestation, and BTW, the external evidence for the historicity of the Person of the Son of God, is not from believers, but from those who were not believers, Historians who recorded the fatcs, confirming His reality on earth, and His Resurrection.

    Based on legal evidence, as admitted in a court of law, some of the brightest legal minds have said, that the synoptic Gospel evidence alone, are simply irrefutable, cannot be refuted.

    Those of you scoffers, will never believe, you can continue denying the facts, BUT, you CANNOT refute it!

  38. AFRIKAN ROYALTY Avatar
    AFRIKAN ROYALTY

    zoe…….u must read From the browder file by Anthony browder and The worlds sixteen crucified saviours by Kersy greaves .You seem to have fell for this scam hook and line the prt hm heru which predates the bible by 2500 yrs and this has been historical proven carries all of these texts that your bible plagirised the life of the jesus is a direct mirror image of heru thousands of years before christ even your ten commandments were taken from th 52 laws of MAAT which repreents truth jutice reciprocity didnt moses turn to kemit to be wise like those great people

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    Zoe writes :

    “It is a FACT, that no other document of antiquity, ever tested, has ever PASSED all these three test, with flying colours, like the New Testament manuscripts.”

    ————

    Except that the original autographs dont exist today.

  40. AFRIKAN ROYALTY Avatar
    AFRIKAN ROYALTY

    you need to take a tour of kemit zoe to see the only true test of authenticity our story in scribed on the many temples and reliefs predating christianty by five thouand years or more and still there to this day for you and me to see we have seen where the europeans who came in in the later times try to deface these great temples but the truth is coming out bit by bit every thing is there for you to see what are these two amen, as on earth as in heaven,the cross all these terms and objects used in christianty derived from acient kemit you were saying that not knowing christ condemms us to darkness but this is another way we have ben trained to see blackness as evil or wrong but dont forget that from the darkness of your mothers womb you were nutured and grew an you must plant your seed in the blackness of the earth for it to bring forth fruit hotep

  41. BAFBFP Avatar
    BAFBFP

    Zoe

    You double double disgust me

  42. Zoe Avatar
    Zoe

    Hopi, where is the historical evidence of these crucified saviours, and their RESURRECTION from the dead, as Jesus’ Resurrection from the dead, three days after, exactly as He said it would happen, the most significant EVENT in history, confirming His claim to being God, the Son, literally, God INCARNATE, fulfilled as Prophesied by Isaiah in the Old Testament 700 years before the birth of Christ.

    “Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a Son, and shall call His name Immanuel.” (Isaiah 7:14).

    Immanuel means ‘God-With-Us’ this is just one of hundreds of prophecies from the Old Testament, concerning Jesus Christ, ‘Immanuel” God-With-Us, completely fulfilled by the Birth, Life, Ministry, Crucifixion, Resurrection, and Ascension back to Heaven.

    The historic evidence for this is overwhelming, both from the internal evidence of those who saw Him, worked with Him, ate with Him, and witnessed His glorified, Resurrected Body, over 500 eyewitness, PLUS, the external evidence from sources outside of the Christian Community.

    NO OTHER Person in the history of mankind, has had as much written about him, as The Lord Jesus Christ, no other Person in history Has transformed the hearts and lives, across the World, as Jesus Christ has done.

    No other Person in history has been attacked more than the Person of The Son of God, and NO attempt has yet succeeded in refuting the FACTS of His Incarnation, Life, Crucifixion, Resurrection and Ascension.

    For He, The Lord Jesus Christ said:

    “I AM the resurrection and the Life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?” (John 11:25).

    Keep scoffing, you scoffers, you can NEVER, EVER, refute the FACTS and the Evidence.

    Keep throwing your Red-Herrings, and Straw Men, ignited with empty, vain, nonsense, won’t work, cannot work.

    Rejected Truth, will haunt you to the End; for you cannot put it out!

  43. Anonymous Avatar
    Anonymous

    You are in your car driving home. Thoughts wander to the game you want to see or meal you want to eat, when suddenly a sound unlike any you’ve ever heard fills the air. The sound is high above you. A trumpet? A choir? A choir of trumpets?

    You don’t know, but you want to know.. So you pull over, get out of your car, and look up. As you do, you see you aren’t the only curious one. The roadside has become a parking lot. Car doors are open, and people are staring at the sky. Shoppers are racing out of the grocery store. The Little League baseball game across the street has come to a halt. Players and parents are searching the clouds. And what they see, and what you see, has never before been seen.

    It is as if the sky were a curtain, the drapes of the atmosphere part. A brilliant light spills onto the earth. There are no shadows. None.

    From every hue ever seen and a million more never seen. Riding on the flow is an endless fleet of angels. They pass through the curtains one myriad at a time, until they occupy every square inch of the sky.

    North. South. East. West.

    Thousands of silvery wings rise and fall in unison, and over the sound of the trumpets, you can hear the cherubim and seraphim chanting, Holy, holy, holy.. The final flank of angels is followed by twenty-four silver-bearded elders and a multitude of souls who join the angels in worship. Suddenly, the heavens are quiet.

    All is quiet.

    The angels turn, you turn, the entire world turns and there He is.

    It is Jesus.

    Through waves of light you see the silhouetted figure of Christ the King. He is atop a great stallion, and the stallion is atop a billowing cloud. He opens his mouth, and you are surrounded by his declaration:

    I am the Alpha and the Omega.
    The angels bow their heads.. The elders remove their crowns. And before you is a Figure so consuming that you know, instantly you know: Nothing else matters.. For get stock markets and school reports. Sales meetings and football games. Nothing is newsworthy noe.. All that mattered, matters no more…. For Christ has come.

  44. Zoe Avatar
    Zoe

    BAFBFP, keep being disgusted, and see how many more multiples of ‘disgust’ you can add to your already disgusted mindset!

  45. Hopi Avatar
    Hopi

    Zoe…..What crucified saviours and resurrections from the dead are you speaking of? Did you see me mention any such beings? I told you that this Jesus is a johnny-come-lately.

    ‘No other Person in the history…………’.There is a method to that madness and here it is:- In order to keep that well-dressed lie going on & on & on……you have to repeat and threepeat it from generation to generation, keep changing its clothing from catholicism, to anglicanism to pentecostalism, to baptistism to methodism…. and this well-dressed lie will eventually grown enough legs where it will just get up and walk by itself, looking and sounding very pretty. But waiting right around the corner is the Naked Truth which is NOW in the process of unmasking that lie. You think King James didn’t know what he was doing when he said ‘let no man add nor take from this word.’

    You condemn Catholicism, but if you are using the bible and believing in Jesus, you have to condemn your beliefs as well because it came directly out of Catholicism and there is no way you can bring a clean thing out of an unclean thing.

    And to the other one seeing their Jesus coming in the cloud, the only way this Jesus will appear to you is via Bluebeam a weapon of the Killuminati. They have this waiting in the wings for the appropriate time to have your Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed, Krishna all your religious icons to beam them into the sky. Then you’ll start losing ya damn minds. So stay tuned! The show is just beginning.

  46. AFRIKAN ROYALTY Avatar
    AFRIKAN ROYALTY

    zoe who are these “over 500 eyewitness” that you speak of the fact that no history sacred or profane makes the slightest allusion to christ or any of the miraculous incidents ingrafted into his life certainly proves with a congency that no logic can overthrow no sophistry can contradict and no honest skepticism can resist that there was never such a miraculousy endowed being as his many orthodok disciples claim him to have been.

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    Zoe writes of :

    “the most significant EVENT in history”

    ——

    Can Zoe give us written contemporaneous accounts of this remarkable “event”?

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    My friend Abdul says :

    “Mohammed is the last prophet of the one true god”

    He says to you Zoe,

    “You can scoff and deny it but you cannot REFUTE it “

  49. AFRIKAN ROYALTY Avatar
    AFRIKAN ROYALTY

    the fact that christ finds no place in the history of the era in which he lived that not one event of his life is recorded by anybody but his own interested and prejudiced biographers settles the conclusion beyond criticism that the godlike acheivements ascribed to him are nothing but fiction .it would be a historical anomanly without a precedent that christ should have performed any of the extraordinary acts attributed to him in the gospels and no roman or grecian historian niether philo nor josephus both writing in that age and both living almost on the spot where they are said to have been witnessed, and both recording minutely all the religious events of that age and country, makes the slightest mention of one of them nor their reputed authors such a historical fact banishes the last shadow of faith in your “reality”

  50. BAFBFP Avatar
    BAFBFP

    Zoe,
    you tripple disgust me… pompous ass..!

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