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There is an argument that the nature of this submission will polarize, but I would contend that is only because the issue has not already been satisfactorily addressed.  That possibility is all the more reason for an intelligent debate.  I believe that race appears to be always just beneath the surface as evidenced in some debates.  It is only fair to state this issue of race has not been helped by a “few” in positions of authority – when it is convenient – seeking to exploit race to their advantage.  When we can discuss race in an open debate, without fear of victimization or denigration of each other, the process will start to put race to the sword in Barbados.

This is an attempt to start that process by asking simple questions on a “specific issue.”

Why are there so “few” and I mean “few” medium and large size businesses managed and “owned” by indigenous black Barbadians?  I will further make the point that business opportunities are not possible to all races in equal measure commensurate with their percentage of the population in Barbados.  If I am wrong there will be hard evidence to refute my statement.

Before expansion, I can hear those who say, why talk about race it does not matter in this day and age, the young are not concerned.  Most people who take that view are asking for a dialogue of silence.  If you never ask pertinent questions there cannot be satisfactory responses.  Perhaps I should add , I am not speaking of a few young people having a drink in a bar, even dating, this issue is more fundamental than that.

Is there something “peculiar” about Barbados which adversely effects its black citizens and thus renders them impotent in this regard.  Is it the case that black businesses are only allowed up to a certain level here, and then surreptitiously thwarted?  Are inroads only allowed in specific areas, others by silent acquiescence are the preserve of certain ethnic groups?

If the points I have raised are baseless, they can be easily refuted by evidence of a “large number” of medium size and substantial size indigenous black owned businesses in Barbados.  I have repeatedly used the word “indigenous black” with purpose. To say this has not happened because of a lack of business acumen for a successful enterprise, invites the retort are any efforts being made to address this obstacle and has a serious attempt ever been made as a national priority.  Please do not highlight less than a dozen “large businesses” in a population of 90% indigenous black; that would surely make my point.

tAre we to believe that of all the black people in the world “only” black indigenous Barbadians are incapable of owning and running a large successful business.  Are we suggesting that the same black Barbadians whose stock has produced stable Governments etc, are incapable of running a successful large enterprise.  I am asking these questions because I hope that what is implied in this submission can be easily refuted.  To suggest there is no case to answer, to an obvious reality, without evidence is vacuous.

The world is changing and changing fast, Barbados has to adapt to that change.  It is how we position ourselves to meet that change which will determine the long term stability of our country.

Men/women of true vision are able to act and adapt to a new set of circumstances, those who remain moribund, settled and complacent in the attitudes and mores of the past, will see perceived rights easily eroded.  This submission has not used vicious words or phrases against any groups, neither has it been aggressive.  It has just posed questions which can easily be explained if the evidence is there.  I have studiously avoided personal attacks, as they are often counter productive in such an issue and generally serve no purpose.

This submission in “not” about a black person being President in another country and how race does not matter today etc.  It is about “Barbados” and its black men/women having the opportunity to own and manage medium and large businesses in the country of their birth – with a level playing field –  and in so doing be in control of the “economic levers” of their country.

  1. If entrepreneurial skills are deficient in the indigenous majority black population; how do we address those deficiencies.
  2. It cannot enhance the “self-worth” of the majority black indigenous population if they know – because it is evident – that they do not play a major part in controlling the “levers of economic power” in their own country.
  3. It would appear that young indigenous Barbadian black boys/girls are growing up in environment in which the “abnormal” is seen as normal, and their self-worth and entrepreneurial ability is considered 2nd rate, perhaps because of denied opportunities.

As an aside , one purpose of a “good blog” is to tackle issues the main stream media do not engage with.  Not to grab headlines but to seek “truth” by asking searching questions, which some might be uncomfortable with, but that is no reason why those questions should not be asked.


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  1. Negroman……….The main problem with the “someone making AIDS theory ” is that people haven’t reached the level of intelligence or skill to make viruses or bacteria or any other cell type……so that theory is flawed


  2. @Anonymous…Yes, I know that when I’m sleeping the black genes in me awaken. I know this to be a fact.

    ‘It is commonly accepted…’ Because something is commonly accepted does NOT make it TRUTH. Didn’t whitey once said that the earth was flat and that was commonly accepted as TRUTH as well? Didn’t whitey once say that he was SUPERIOR to the BLACK MAN and that was/is commonly accepted as TRUTH?
    You bet I don’t live by that bible, like I’ve said before my existence pre-dates that book.

    How are Blacks racist towards whites? What systems/structures do they have in place to oppress whites? Uh, what? what? Speak Up, I can’t hear you! Louder!

    ‘Europeans were the first one to get technology and take it out of their borders’ oh gawd so much putrid. Do you know of the history of Kemet? You should do some research before you open your mouth and remove all doubt of your folly.

    @Nanoa….you really started off piss poor. You start off like the truly indoctrinated JACKASS that you are. This is the same racist ideology that I’m speaking of. Black people got AIDS from eating monkeys. Oh lawdee. AIDS was concocted in a laboratory by human hands. But I wouldn’t expect you to know that. Would you?
    ‘Most Black people don’t like hard work.’ Forever Blacks have been working hard but could never enjoy the fruits of their labour. Look at the once great and mighty USofA who the hell did you think built that nation up? For all the hard work that Black people have done, it is high time that they sit to hell down and stop slaving. Didn’t they say that by the sweat of a man’s brow he should eat bread?’ and if you really examine the shit, those who don’t sweat get to eat the BEST bread and the best of everything whereas those who sweat have to scrunt. Who the hell built up Barbados? Mine and Negroman’s Black foreparents. Why you think that lazy whitey captured African and brought them all over? Whitey was never in the business of doing hard work. And if you think that you can impress me with your ‘becoming a doctor’ you’re off by light years my dear. I am not that easily impressed and no title can change that. But what you need to do is put that in the Nation with your address so that us self-respecting BLACKS will know to stay away from you.

    If you really think that NO white people are involved in Zimbabwe, you have a long, long way to go. And while we are at it don’t forget the whole continent of Akebulan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Palestine, Vietnam, E.Timor, Burma, the Balkans…….
    Maybe you should stick to whatever it is you think you are good at and stay outta big people business.
    BTW your formula for success is irrelevant.

    Hopi ain’t hating on no one. My wish is that the motherland would cut off all her resources to the bloodsuckers and bring back all her children home, so that we can regroup and get back on our track to SPIRITUAL enlightment and HIGHER CONSCIOUSNESS and stop chasing the white man’s illusions. That’s all HOPI wants.

    Just leave the rest of you out here in your world. You stay away from us, cause we NEED to stay away from you.


  3. @Nanoa…. No you didn’t just type that putrid here. According to you people haven’t reached the level of intelligence or skill to make viruses or bacteria or any other cell. Oh my gawd, are you that ignorant or are you just plain stupid. If you are speaking truthfully about becoming a doctor I honestly pity your stupidity. Now you see why you should publish your info in the Nation so that we can stay away from you? And you actually completed secondary school. Now you see why I’m not impressed? Oh lawd Barbados in serious troubles!


  4. Hopi……..I’m sure Africa would welcome you and your kind back with open arms.

    As for the rest of us black people, who are not going to let the happenings of over 200 years ago cause us to not reach our full potential, we will keep on doing as we have done and make progress.


  5. As for the “people can’t make cells” it is a fact…………….go read a book.


  6. Nanao // February 12, 2009 at 11:51 pm

    ……the fact is that most black people don’t like hard work…

    It is often said that a picture is worth a thousand words and those few words
    gives an insightful preview of the picture painted on the hearts of unaware racists.


  7. General Lee // February 13, 2009 at 1:53 am

    Nanao // February 12, 2009 at 11:51 pm

    ……the fact is that most black people don’t like hard work…

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The statement fits in with half of the definition Tiffany posted above …… ie

    # The belief that each race has distinct and intrinsic attributes; The belief that one race is superior to all others; Prejudice or discrimination …
    en.wiktionary.org/wiki/racism

    You have a point.

    … fact is that nobody likes hard work, it is a human trait

    …… some people will work hard and they are usually the ones that get ahead.

    … and this is true of all races.

    I could make the following comment which from the definition is bordering on racist.

    “It is my experience from university that chinese students work extremely hard”.

    …. but then too, so did I and many others who like me are not chinese

    …… and we all got the results to show.

    However, I don’t like to work hard.

    I just know from experience that it works and produces results

    …. each and every time I do it.

    So I try to work hard although I have a tough time …. being a human and all that.


  8. I agree with John,

    There are many very hard working black people, as they are white and any other race.

    There are many lazy people of any colour as well.

    Hopi/negroman/199 perpetuate the same ideology as Hitler. They believe that their race is superior to others (in Hitlers case the Aryan race, in their case the Black race)

    They have pretty much concluded here that White people are genetically evil, the cause of every malady in the world, and they wish to remove themselves from their presence.

    All Hitler did was take it the next step and start eradicating people.

    I don’t think we can reason with people that honestly think that evil is encoded into the DNA of people of a specific race.

    @ Hopi “How are Blacks racist towards whites? What systems/structures do they have in place to oppress whites? Uh, what? what? Speak Up, I can’t hear you! Louder!”

    You’re using a partial definition of the word. If you choose to believe that racism is limited to structure and powers that be, believe what you want. It is widely accepted that it refers to more than that as evidenced by the defintions I quoted earlier on (which were not specifically picked out, merely the top 3 google finds).

    If you want to argue the, what is widely accepted isnt per say true thing for this one you’d be missing it. Language is dynamic and is defined by the masses. Start using a different terminology for your systemic defintion of racism.

    I’m well within my rights to use the word racist to describe your beliefs.

    Beside the point though, I wouldnt say blacks (in general) are racist towards whites or vice versa. Over generalizations are at the root of prejudice. (not to mention hate)

    And people, try reading up some ancient history. Every race has had wars and troubles before the Europeans started spreading empires.

    If you blame the troubles in Africa on whitey coming and messing up the balance then someone can blame the whitey’s troubles on the ones that ruled before them. (oh wait, i forgot…its their genes)

    Defining race and ethnicity is difficult anyway to draw clear lines from ancient history to now.

    Where do you believers of the superior black race draw the line? When does someone stop being black enough and is white? Three white ancestors, two, one?


  9. Bravo Tiffany!


  10. @Tiffany….. Aren’t the Palestinians entitled to compensation from the parasitic blood-letting ‘jews’ who happen to be your people?
    You said that we are perpetuating the same ideology as Hitler. I can say that for your people in Palestine as well. Isn’t that true?
    Here is where I draw the line. I don’t want to kill you. I think it is best that Black people separate from white people and put all our resources on full lockdown. DO NOT allow whitey to have access at all. Black people need to regroup and look within ourselves and reject the white man’s illusions. HIGHER CONSCIOUSNESS.


  11. hopi,

    I said that you and the couple others on here as INDIVIDUALS are perpetrating that ideology based on the statements you’ve made here.

    You are jumping on the generalization band-wagon again.

    The Israel/Palestinean conflict is another hot topic and in depth issue not to enter into in this discussion I don’t think (perhaps elsewhere), but real research will show its not as clear cut as Israelis kicking out one nation to establish another.

    I’m not going to deny that Palestinians have suffered greatly. Both at the hands of their own people and Israeli forces.

    The issue there however it is spun is not a hatred of Palestinians by the Jews. In fact, arabs/palestinians that choose to stay in Israel and are Israeli citizens have more rights than those in surrounding arab lands.

    Giving them rights? Telling them they could stay in the land and have all their freedoms when the Israeli State was established? Warning civilians(including terrorists) before bombs are dropped in a war situation…

    sounds to me they think they are lesser humans doesnt it?

    I don’t deny really horrible stuff has happened with that whole war and the politics of it. But its still not blatant hatred based on race.

    True segregation is nearly impossible in a globalized world. You’d need to become the black equivalent of the amish. Dont buy anything from anycompany because somewhere along the line the evil whiteman may have been involved and may get some of your resources.


  12. @Tiffany…. drivel, drivel.


  13. glad to see that I have taken the time to share my thoughts with someone that openly hates me in hopes of maybe a balanced conversation to be faced with childish retorts.

    🙂 silly me for thinking civility was possible

    i honestly hope one day maybe you could see humans for humans and not for colour.

    Otherwhise, however, I hope you find your black utopia and can get away from the white mans perceived evil.

    I’d apologize to you for being born white but that would be silly since I can’t control that and you hate me so you probably wouldnt care anyway.

    Sorry for slightly hijacking this comment section with this debate everyone else! 😮


  14. The question posed by Yardbroom at the start was:

    Can We Ever Put RACE To Rest In Barbados?

    It would appear as though this is not possible.


  15. Well I am sure we could… once we establish a homogeneous racial population.


  16. And the only way we can ever put race to rest once we establish a homogenous racial population is THRU total separation. Cave anybody?


  17. A homogeneous racial population is one in which everyone is the same race.

    Separating races in a racially homogeneous population is equivalent to sorting red pens (of all the same shade of red) by color.

    Astrix: Give it a good 1000-10,000 years and we’ll be there.


  18. Yes… but then we will be dealing with the horrible oppression wrought by the evil tall people on the victimized short people. Or maybe it will be the genetically modified vs the natural humans.

    We will always find away


  19. Yea…. people will always find stuff to complain/war about…

    Maybe it’ll be the cyborgs versus the naturals :P.. or perhaps the lizard people… lol


  20. No one has said anything for a while.
    Do we conclude that we will only “Put RACE To Rest In Barbados” after at least one of the following:
    Enough interbreeding to create a racially homogeneous population
    Shared hatred of the dreaded tall people/cyborgs or lizard people
    Total separation of races
    Drastic amounts of methylenedioxymethamphetamine


  21. Dear Anon:

    If humans and the ancestors have been around for a minimum of 200,000 years and there is not yet a racially homogeneous population why do you think that that is going to happen anytime soon?

    Have you noticed that the climate in the far north and south is very different from at the equator?

    What we call race is simply adaptation to GEOGRAHPICAL DIFFERENCES.

    As long as geography is different we will have different races.

    But there is no need to use geographical differences to make decisions about the worth or competence or intelligence of human beings.

    Race is necessary and neutral.

    Racism is unnecessary and a great evil.


  22. Anon wrote “Shared hatred of the dreaded tall people/cyborgs or lizard people
    Total separation of races
    Drastic amounts of methylenedioxymethamphetamine”

    J writes there are no cyborgs or lizard people.

    No need ot introduce or reintroduce apartheid. That was tried and it does not work.

    No need to introduce ectasy either. That won’t help anybody except for the drug dealers. I trust that you are not a drug dealer?

    Just learn to live and let live.


  23. Hopi wrote ” My wish is that the motherland would cut off all her resources to the bloodsuckers and bring back all her children home, so that we can regroup and get back on our track to SPIRITUAL enlightment and HIGHER CONSCIOUSNESS and stop chasing the white man’s illusions. That’s all HOPI wants.”

    And what’s stopping Hopi from returning to the motherland and pursuing spiritual enlightenment?

    There are hundreds or thousands of flights going to the motherland each day.

    Or is it that Hopi is too in love with Western materialism?


  24. Yey, stuff to respond to.

    J
    These adaptations arise over very long periods of time. They arise because of geographical isolation of certain groups that then become adapted to the environments in those different areas. Eventually this leads to geographical speciation, in which the different subspecies become so different that they are different species. The rate of ‘interbreeding’ or ‘despeciation’ or whatever you want to call it, that is, the rate of combination of genetic variations to reduce overall genetic separation at the present is much greater than it was in the past, and probably much much greater than the rate of speciation or genetic evolution of subpopulations. This effect, that is, the combination of genetic material being faster than the isolated differentiation of it, should lead to eventual genetic homogeneity (relative homogeneity. some variation due to randomness and the small degrees of cultural separation)

    “But there is no need to use geographical differences to make decisions about the worth or competence or intelligence of human beings.”

    I completely agree (and with what you said after it. Actually, I agree with everything you said except your implication that, even given the current lack of genetic isolation of populations and lack of constant environment to adapt to (groups of people move all the time… there are not very many that have been living in the same location for 20 generations) that the current form of sub-species separation must continue)

    J. I agree. That was my point. Everything except the mdma were discussed above. Hopi (and a few others) mentioned apartheid and said that it was the only solution. The others were mentioned jokingly.

    “And what’s stopping Hopi from returning to the motherland and pursuing spiritual enlightenment?”

    A question I’ve asked many times when posed with similar comments. The responses that I’ve heard:
    One can fly there but would not be able to be a legal resident. As far as I know, the Barbados government set up a situation for African descendants to do just this. Also as far as I know, a few accepted and then returned. Very few though. I may have my facts here a bit mixed up so if anyone knows more about this than I please correct me or elaborate.
    Plane tickets are expensive and they cannot afford it. Same solution that I mentioned above.
    Relatives/friends here that shouldn’t be forsaken. Valid, but then it can’t be all that bad.
    White people have corrupted Africa. I’m not touching that one….

    I would be interested in hearing a response that seems convincing or plausible.

  25. Partly bajan girl Avatar
    Partly bajan girl

    Much of Barbados is run by foreign corporations.
    When I go to Barbados for holidays, I try at least to support hotels and businesses run and owned by locals from Barbados,that be black or white!
    I think you must loook back in time to our first black hotelowner Rachel Pringle, and se things in a bigger perspective without just feeling sorry for yourselves and say you have lost before you try because of unending injustice..

    http://www.candw.ag/~jardinea/ffhtm/ff970228.htm


  26. LOL….

    It seems that Hopi, Negroman, 199 et al. WANT all that materialism…they just don’t want EVERYONE in the world to have it if they don’t! And they’ll hate on others because they don’t

    If that ain’t hatred, of which racism is a part, I don’t know what is!

    It’s not about the pretty trinkets, kids…when we die, all of us will return to the dust from whence we came! Regardless of colour, class, height, gender, handicap, age…whatever! We all have one life! Why make yourselves miserable by hating others in it?

    Wasting time & energy, really…I laugh at all who do that!


  27. Oh, and by the way…I’m mixed. 😉


  28. The British invented racism and as long as there is a strong British presence, racism in all it’s forms will exist.

    Ever been into a church of England? Here in North America, we see a picture of a lilly white Christ plastered or stained all over the church windows.

    Until the British and the Catholic Church tell the truth about the black man, nothing is going to change until a divine intervention. I would then love to see the faces of of some of these white supremacists

    You get my drift? I hope so.


  29. I was not going to mention my experience on Sunday. But for persons like Scheherez and others, I think it must be mentioned. I would hope that someone could testify to what I have seen.

    On Sunday, I went to a cruise, after docking my girlfriends and myself were laughing and giggling after having such a great time. However, what took place after that was no laughin matter. One of my girlfriend’s friends, was leaning on a Car, all of a sudden, a white man came from nowhere and spat in his face.

    You want to know why he did that, BECAUSE THE GUY WAS LEANING ON HIS CAR.

    I just didn’t want to talk about it, but ….. I never thought that I would have seen that type of scene unfold in front of me. I am going to be honest, I was in shock, it seemed as if it was’nt real. I mean yes I read about racism and I make lots of noise about it as well, and God forbid a white person or Indian talking down to me. But …… I didn’t couldn’t do anything.

    I just could not believe that this particular incident had happened and I had witnessed it!

    Well, i know that it was only a few seconds ……. but it felt like forever, man that white man’s car got f…..up! And all the time you kept on hearing you think these are the days of slavery!

    But yes we are stilll living in a world of slavery. our minds are enslaved, our bodies are enslaved and we still cannot realise what is going on around us!

    We are in serious trouble, because we refuse to accept the truth!


  30. @ anonymous

    😐

    wow…..

    wow

    i’m shocked

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