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July 20, 2008

Ms. Peggy Griffith

Chief Executive Officer

Fair Trading Commission

Good Hope, Green Hill

St. Michael

Dear Ms. Griffith:

It was with some concern that I read an article in the Weekend Nation (Friday, July 18) entitled “Gas Pump. This article outlined plans by Trans-Tech Inc. to start selling a device which, it is claimed, will almost double mileage in gasoline and diesel powered vehicles. Such devices, also known as HHO hydrogen generators, take electricity from the vehicle’s alternator and, through hydrolysis, produce a mixture of hydrogen and oxygen. The gas mixture is fed into the engine where it becomes part of the combustion cycle.

Companies selling HHO hydrogen generators prey on people’s anxiety over the rising cost of gasoline and diesel. Unfortunately, all such devices do not work as claimed. Far from improving fuel economy, they will actually consume more fuel because of the extra load being placed on the alternator. These devices are nothing more than scams which seek to dupe unsuspecting consumers into buying them by making fraudulent promises of vastly improved fuel economy, promises which are never fulfilled. At this stage, I am not accusing Trans-Tech of trying to defraud consumers, for the company may be an unwitting victim of the manufacturer of this device. It is disconcerting, however, that Trans-Tech has plans to manufacture this device, so one would assume that they are fully versed in the limitations of the technology.

The basic failing of such devices is that they consume more energy that they produce because of inherent inefficiencies of the various steps along the process to produce and burn the hydrogen and oxygen.

1.The vehicle’s alternator is about 95% efficient, in that it takes 100 watts of input energy to produce 95 watts of electricity.

2.The electrolysis process is probably no more than 75% efficient, but the efficiency may be as low as 50%.

3.The internal combustion engine is only about 25% efficient, as most of the energy from combustion is lost as heat, noise and vibration.

So, for every one watt of usable energy which the oxygen and hydrogen gas will produce when burnt, it will take anywhere from 5.6 – 8.4 watts to generate it. The volume of hydrogen and oxygen gas produced by such systems is too small to have any discernible effect on the energy produced by the internal combustion engine, and definitely cannot compensate for a 60% reduction in fuel consumption that Trans-Tech is promising.

Some of these devices also require that the installer modify the readings from the oxygen sensor to reduce the amount of fuel in the air-fuel mixture, and this will reduce consumption particularly when the car is idling. However, running an international combustion engine on an air-fuel mixture that is too lean will cause serious damage to the engine and will increase the level of pollutants in the exhaust.

Some of these devices also claim that the hydrogen and oxygen gas produced from the electrolysis makes the vehicle’s engine more efficient. This claim, however, is also not supported by empirical evidence. In most modern cars, about 99% of the fuel is burned during combustion, so it is impossible to produce any significant improvements in efficiency, and certainly not along the lines to support Trans-Tech’s claims.

Should Trans-Tech wish to provide further information in support of their product and in refute of my analysis presented here, I would be more than happy to provide a rebuttal. There is presently an NZ$1 million challenge for a company who can achieve a sustainable 25% increase in baseline fuel economy by installing a HHO hydrogen generator into a test vehicle. Perhaps Trans-Tech would like to take the challenge (http://aardvark.co.nz/hho_challenge.shtml)?

A final point to ponder: if these devices were able to deliver on their promises, don’t you think every car manufacturer would be clamouring to include the technology in their cars? Having an SUV that could deliver 50 mpg or a compact car that could deliver 100mpg in these days of high oil prices would be a huge marketing advantage for any manufacturer. Sadly, this technology does not (and will never) deliver on its promises and hence is not being pursued by car manufacturers.

I urge the Fair Trading Commission to investigate this product carefully and, if your findings concur with mine, not to let such devices be sold in Barbados. Failure to do so will result in numerous claims against this product and Trans-Tech Inc. in the future and will impact on the credibility of the FTC to stand up for the rights of consumers.

Yours sincerely,

John Da Silva

For more information about the lack of scientific basic for these devices, please see the following links:

http://aardvark.co.nz/hho.shtml

http://community.discovery.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9551919888/m/2321969559


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24 responses to “Trans-Tech's Claim Challenged, Another Example Of The Media Short-changing Barbadians”


  1. We thank John for his civic mindedness and urge more Barbadians with the knowledge to do likewise. We did a quick search of the Internet and there is tonnes of info about these devices. We are sure the that the engineers and other technically inclined BU family members will jump in on this discussion.

    Again we plead with the Nation newspaper to apply the 5 W’s of journalism and try harder to do the PEOPLE’s bidding.


  2. Good morning all..

    1. There is no such thing as “free” energy. The laws of thermodynamics forbid it.

    2. There are many who will try to profit from others’ fears, and ignorance…

    3. A joke: two economists are walking down the street. One says to the other: “Is that a hundred dollar bill there, over there on the street?” “Of course not”, says the other economist, “or else someone else would have already picked it up…”


  3. I heard about the article in the Nation and dismissed it when I was told it cost $5000!


  4. Well worth looking into. We as a small nation devoid of natural resources need to seriously explore alternative energy sources.

    Professor Oliver Headley spearheaded research into solar energy and as far as I recall before his untimely (and suapicious) death he and his associates had successfully converted a house in Barbados to use solar-generated electricity and even converted a car to do the same. Then he mysteriously committed suicide by hanging himself with a rope from his balcony on University Hill. Hogwash! The man was obviously murdered due to his REAL threat to the energy conglomerates.


  5. Temohpab

    You made me laugh till I almost choked. Don’t believe for one moment that anyone murdered the Professor. I am surprised that he waited 60 years to commit suicide. Solar power has been used in Florida homes long before the professor
    converted the Baje house from BL&P power to solar power. Ten years ago the startup kits were sold at 10,000 U.S. Even if the professor could have produced one for 10,000 Baje dollars very few of us could have afforded the switch.


  6. We don’t want to suggest to commenters what they should write but…

    As a people we can become bogged down in the past and therefore go nowhere fast, or we can learn from the past with a view to moving forward with a solution oriented approach. If the professor died under suspicious circumstances we suggest is not relevant to NOW. Barbadians need to build on on what body of work he left to protect the future of our country.

  7. John Da Silva Avatar

    Thanks for running the piece, David.

    Conspiracy theories are used by scam artists to deflect the truth when scientific evidence proves that their devices do not work.

    People selling these water to gas devices claim that oil companies have successfully tried to suppress this technology. They even claim that the biggest proponent of this technology, Stanley Meyers, was murdered, even though the autopsy proved he died of a cerebral aneurysm.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Meyer%27s_water_fuel_cell

    Barbadians need to realise that if something sounds to good to be true, it almost always is.


  8. ha ha ha when i saw the news article i remember similar claims in my neck of the woods, that lead to a consumer alert, “buyer beware” I never got around to posting my findings, but i am glad another patriotic Barbadian did so.

    BU they are practicing a W alright;…..”Withhold”


  9. Hello David

    What a lovely thread!

    Hi Temopad, what a laugh! I could not help but laugh out loud.

    I remember hearing of an incident during the civil rights days of yesteryear, where a black man in the south was reported missing. A few days later a body was pulled from the pier by the police. The man’s body was wrapped criss-crossed in chains from neck to feet.

    The officer, in fishing him out remarked! “This negro attempted to steal more chain than he can carry.”

    Only last week, Jane Wells; CNN correspondent reported from California on the Federal takeover of Indy Mac Bank. A man on the line was interviewed. He was there in an attempt to withdraw his $240,000 savings and cash and could not do so.

    He stood to loose more than half his money; because everyone beside him understand the FDIC insures ONLY up to $100,000 per person. Let’s hope your investment is unadventurous.

    The moral: People seeing the same thing, and having really different conclusions.


  10. I read the article with interest and when I saw the cost to install I immediately surmised that it was not economically feasable. You going to spend $5000.00 to save gas? Is the vehicle in which the system is going to be installed be kept by the owner for 10 years or more?


  11. @John Dasilva

    The BU family is actually grateful to you and your public spiritedness. This is one of those issues which the local consumer bodies should be taking up. Please let us know how the FTC responds.


  12. Another scam is gas additives.

    The Canadian government some time back charged a company for selling those add on devices with fraud.

    They have also issued bulletins re the claims made about stuff added to gas tanks.


  13. I would be interested to hear some feedback from esteemed engineer Bizzy Williams on this issue as I assess him to be a serious, no-bullshit businessman.

    I wonder if anyone ever thought of harnessing the energy generated by the waves off our eastern coast. We have no rivers to generate hydro-electric power but wave energy might be a comparable substitute. Next time you go down the East Coast Road, observe the waves which are in perpetual motion.


  14. @Temohpab

    Why should the PEOPLE of barbados have to rely on Bizzy? There is the Barbados Association of Professional Engineers (BAPE). This should be their role.


  15. @John Da Silva…

    A belated thank you for bringing this forward.

    For reasons I won’t bore you all with, I and (I suspect) the entire “BU Family” will be *very* interested in knowing how the FTC responds to you on your above complaint.

    Does the FTC really stand for “Fair Trading Commission”, or does it instead stand for “Forever Talking Confusion”? “Favouring The Corporations”? “Forgetting Their Charge”?

    Is the FTC actually doing their jobs, or are they simply spending a great deal of tax payers’ money trying to convince us all that they are? (Heuristics speaks volumes….)

    Kindest regards to all.


  16. trans-tech owner brathwaite is a fraud

  17. John Da Silva Avatar

    So far, no response. I shall send then a copy of my thoughts in a letter on Monday in case they do not check their e-mail.


  18. @ John Da Silva

    Keep plugging away John. Persistence is the key when dealing with these kinds of agencies. Sad to say!


  19. @John Da Silva…

    Again, thank you for continuing to pursue this. It is important that the consumer be protected from scams which leverage on the fears of our times.

    If I may give some counsel from my personal experiences dealing with the FTC: do not rely on e-mail alone. I once had to sent five (5) emails over a two week period (increasing the CC list each time) before I finally received a *phone call* back.

    During the phone call, I was told by an FTC official that “e-mail was not an appropriate way to communicate with the FTC”. When I asked this official to summarize what was communicated to me during the phone call, I was told they “would try
    to do so when they could”. I never did receive the summary in writing.

    Whenever anyone communicates with the FTC, it is important that it be done in writing. Both FAX, and a signed-for physical letter. This seems to be the only thing which *might* trigger a response.


  20. What exactly is the FTC expected to say on this matter? As far as I know there is no actual product yet on the market.


  21. @Brutus et al…

    Let me please suggest some (semi-serious) language for an educational campaign:

    “Warning Consumers! Trying to power your car on water is a bit like pulling hard on your shoelaces, and expecting to fly…”


  22. Not sure why more people don


  23. ye man transtech boss brathwaite is more then fruad . can’t trust him with nothing .


  24. Business is business and selling an item that has claims to benefits does not make the salesman a fraud! Brathwaite is a hardworking trained engineer with excellent business acumen! He cannot defraud the same people he loves!

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