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I read your blog every day and though I do not always agree with your opinions I do see the need for your blog and I find you much less biased that BFP which is why I am writing to you. I hear there is a strike looming which could possibly become a national strike and I am personally shocked at the lack of action taken to avert this strike by our new government. Maybe it’s that I am used to Owen’s politics where he would personally intervene in order to avert a strike as he has done on numerous occasions even just before the elections but is not leadership what we want in a prime minister….someone who even if it is not their business would get involved? any feedback whether by email or in an article would be appreciated.

Submitted by BU reader, the opinion expressed above is not necessarily shared by BU.

We have always held the view that the tripartite social partnership comprised of government, private sector and union is a contrived arrangement orchestrated by the master of inclusion, the late Owen Seymour Arthur. Its touted success was derived more for political expediency which has benefited government and private sector at the expense of workers for its duration. Key players in the union and private sector have been rewarded by the master of inclusion. The workers in our opinion have been disadvantaged over the years by this two headed master who has operated under the guise of government and private sector. To be further explored at a later date.

To the issue at hand — the threat of a national strike looms on Wednesday 20, 2008. Whether it happens or not the economy of Barbados would be negatively affected. Cruise ships would have adjusted their itineraries as well as forward bookings by people wanting to travel to Barbados. It begs the question why has this issue reached boiling point so quickly.

We wish to examine the Royal Shop issue. This popular jewelery store with locals and tourists alike has been operating in Barbados for decades. Feedback to BU indicates that this family owned business has been managed well enough to have several employees who have worked for over 10 years in its employ. To our mind the long tenure of many of the Royal Shop workers does not mesh with the view that Sir Roy and his band would have us believe. The obvious question continues to be raised; why has this problem escalated so quickly?

Based on the information at our disposal, we have to place most of the blame on the back of the Barbados Workers union (BWU). We know from our usual reliable sources that the owner of Royal Shop invited the employees who walked off the job to return. The BWU insisted that it must be all or nothing. Remember that the employees had earlier engaged in a wildcat strike. The owner insisted that they would allow all employees to return to their jobs without prejudice excluding the worker who refused to accept the transfer. Remember that the transfer was nothing new to the company which has operated from multiple locations for several years now. The BWU from the listed events failed to encourage or initiate standard grievance procedures. No way does any competent union refuse to engage the employer at the onset of industrial unrest!

The unfortunate occurrence in this episode is likely to be the fact that several long standing employees of the Royal Shop, guided by the BWU, stand a real chance of losing their jobs over this fiasco. They would have done so because of the bugling of the Barbados Workers Union. Their only crime would have been that they innocently thought that they were showing solidarity to a work colleague, Kimberly Beckles. If this were a 100 or 200 hundred employee strong company with a list of industrial relations violations, we might understand the heavy handed tactics of the Grand Ole Juke of York. In this case we are talking about a small family owned business which has existed on Broad Street for many years. Given its relatively small size the current confrontation between the BWU and Royal Shop makes it impossible that the striking workers could ever consider a return to their jobs. It can never be business as usual.

Sir Roy must have known that to inject the hard-nose negotiating tactics for which he has become famous would not have worked, and is better suited to solving the cane field disputes of yesteryear. The resources which have had to be wasted by companies in Barbados to create a contingency plan in anticipation of the national shutdown on Wednesday should be deemed a criminal act. We anticipate that that if the strike goes forward it will be responsible for a nasty stain on Sir Roy’s legacy.

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106 responses to “Sir Roy Trotman, Grand Ole Duke of York Up To His Old Tricks ~ National Strike Looms In Barbados”


  1. STRIKE OFF!

    Back to the table.


  2. Seems the looming strike is off/postponed/whatever. What fun! Seriously, though, the lesson to be learned in all this is that a union is holding an entire country to ransom and therefore this can happen again and again.
    Hope the relevant persons can see the problems with this position. How is this country which allegedly ‘punches above its weight’ expecting to attract investment with industrial conflict escalating to such heights. Wow.
    Someday it will all catch up with us and then we will really know what, who and where we really are as a people.
    Maybe we will finally rid ourselves of the notion that we do not have to take responsibility for our own actions.
    Maybe that sense of entitlement will flee. Maybe this nation will remember how to earn its way in the world like the hardworking foreparents managed to do instead of borrowing its way.
    Time is longer than twine. We’ll see.


  3. james // February 19, 2008 at 3:54 pm

    TheTrashHeap, Or Sir Roy or whatever your name is, the whole reason there are processes and rules agreed by the unions is to prevent this sort of damaging farce. Trottman’s brinkmanship and personal agenda has played into the hands of Sandy Lane – who are probably not exactly innocent in all of this – and has ended up making the BWU look foolish.
    ==============================

    James please tell us what is Sir Roy’s “agenda”, and what does “Playing into Sandy Lane’s hand” mean? are you suggesting that Sandly Land could be up to something mischevious in firing those workers?

    …..I have long notice that the Union does not get a lot of support from wider Barbados in it’s many efforts, and i see this as not very different from how Hillary Beckles would have been castigated by black middle class Barbadians for daring to inform them that they, via their collective numbers and the concept of mutuality (one policy one vote) had the where with all to direct the fortunes of the mutual life insurance company, and those would have stood in the way, to deny a free people their rights are never held to account and always goes away blameless. I think they have learnt this lesson and we have not. It has got to change this view that employers are doing us a favour by hiring us, and that the other away around does not occur.

  4. Donald Duck, Esq Avatar

    they call off the strike for the time being but the damage already done


  5. Sam Gamgee // February 19, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    Seems the looming strike is off/postponed/whatever. What fun! Seriously, though, the lesson to be learned in all this is that a union is holding an entire country to ransom and therefore this can happen again and again.
    Hope the relevant persons can see the problems with this position. How is this country which allegedly ‘punches above its weight’ expecting to attract investment with industrial conflict escalating to such heights. Wow.
    Someday it will all catch up with us and then we will really know what, who and where we really are as a people.
    Maybe we will finally rid ourselves of the notion that we do not have to take responsibility for our own actions.
    Maybe that sense of entitlement will flee. Maybe this nation will remember how to earn its way in the world like the hardworking foreparents managed to do instead of borrowing its way.
    Time is longer than twine. We’ll see.
    ==============================

    Easy, because there are many International companies and individuals who have a great appreciation for workers rights, for fairness and better treatment etc. There are many international people who as a practice do not cross picket lines anywhere. Employers in Barbados are behind the curve with respect to workers right and treating to their employers as partners and not as hired help to be despense with as they see fit. I maintain that the people of Barbados need to seriously educate themselves about globalization it’s many negatives and it’s many positives. I look forward to the day when international Jewellers can see the need to setup shop in Barbados, when international Hotel chains with an international outlook and business practices can see the need to setup shop in Barbados.


  6. As I said earlier today if I was the Prime Minister I would listen to what both parties had to say, explain the situation as regards the effect on Barbados, see their response and ask them to revisit the situation without blame.

    With the hope that “common sense” would prevail, and the interest of Barbados would be taken into account.

    I hope events will take that route, both parties saying how right they are; is often not the best course.


  7. TrashHeap:

    Thanks for your clarification. Now go over to Barbados Free Press and post there as well. There are some rabid anti-unionists over there.

    Where I am, employees are not fired for walking off the job. They usually get a suspension with the agreement of the union. This is without pay. Firing is considered drastic and will only happen is the workers ARE legislated back to work and refuse. Then they are seen as breaking the law. However, governments are loathe to get involved in the legal process where union/management issues are concerned.

    With regard to employers in Barbados, I have relatives who have good bosses and some who have had slave masters. I have a cousin, who when her mother died last year was given 3 weeks leave with pay and the option to take more if she required it. (When my father died in North America, I got 4 days.) She manages a guest house for an Englishman and is unionized with good wages. The bad ones, I will not describe here.

    Now, I going to listen to the News Conference by Sir Roy.


  8. This is interesting…………..Read on…From BFP site

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    Conservatism
    February 19, 2008 at 10:54 pm

    THOMPSON – PARRIS et al ; ON PRIVATE JET TO BARBADOS.

    After arriving at JFK at 2:00 AM on Monday morning in NYC, I was astonished to see our new PM and comrade Leroy Parris boarding a private jet to Barbados.

    I have been told it is owned by a Mr Duprey.

    WHO THE HELL IS THIS Mr Duprey ?
    *************************

    Here We Go!

  9. Donald Duck, Esq Avatar

    Time will tell

    Isn’t the benefit of riding in a private jet the quivalent of Owen arthur receiving $75,000 from the same source


  10. Then what have we changed ?

    And to whom are we indebted ?


  11. Sandy Lane’s General Manager could never back down.

    After the last wild cat strike at Sandy Lane, the Chairman wanted all the strikers fired. He communicated this to the General Manager. The GM instead sat down with the Union and agreed to take back the strikers under the condition that an unsanctioned strike would never again take place. That is why he keep refering to the agreement of Nov. 2007.

    The Chairman reluctanly accepted the agreement believing that to be the end of walk-offs. Then the events of recent vintage. The General Manager can no longer go back to the Chairman and say to him that he is taking back another load of malcontents. He would be looking for a job. We all know of the huge salaries expatriots in the Hotel industry are paid and not to mention the extremely generous fringe benefits. No Sandy Lane General Manager worth his salt wil allow that to happen to him.

    So those fired Sandy Lane workers will never get their jobs back unless someone hugh and mighty can convince the Chairman to allow the General Manager to take them. I think they are history.

    The Royal Shop is a different kettle of fish. This problem was festering for a while. The young lady in question who was fired first was in the Thanis cross hairs. She was going around trying to get fellow workers to join the union. The Thanis are fervently anti-union. They were simply bidding their time until she made a serious slip-up.

    When she refused to be transfered that gave them the opportunity that they were looking for. “Your’e fired” rolled of their tongues with glee. The ones who stop work in solidarity with her are the ones she was able to get to join the union. This started the Thanis salivating, here is the chance to kill two birds with one stone. “Get back to work in 10 minutes or your’e fired” the Thanis said without really wanting them to go back to work. And as they say the rest is history.

    Here at the Royal shop we are publicly seeing INDIANS at their racial best. This is only the tip of the iceberg. These thousands and thousands of Guyanese INDIANS we are alowing into Barbados have worst in store for Black Barbadians. It is only a matter of time.


  12. Good to see that the Union and Sir Roy’s ego has backed down. Can’t believe they started this nonsense in the first place. Anonymous, please don’t play the racial card here. It’s about employees and employers, not indians and black barbadians. This whole mess has been massively mismanaged by the the BWU. They’ve chosen the wrong issue and will loose credibility – look at most of the comments, people are not stupid enough to support the BWU unless they have some sort of convincing case. In this case they had none.


  13. We are very pleased to hear of the deferral of the strike action even if we must suggest that much damage has already been done. We thank those insiders like trashheap et al who have provided ‘inside’ info. The thrust of our article remains though. Where collective bargaining agreements are in placed with declared grievance procedures, all parties signatory to the agreement must follow it or confusion will reign as it did over the last two weeks.

    We find it amazing that this impasse started out being about Royal Shop and Sandy Lane and if we listen to Sir Roy’s last press statement he has now explained the action of the union by attributing blame to employers in Barbados. The goal post keep moving it looks like.


  14. Time will Tell,
    Pray tell me what is the purpose of your posting? Why not balance it with Owen Arthur hangung out with the rich folks at Sandy Lane and millions of dollars given away to his cronies.


  15. My believe is that Sir Roy is more interested in himself and power than employees. I smile when he speaks about the way employers treat employees in Barbados because he is certainly no role model in this area.

    In the Sandy Lane case I believe that the BWU should focussed more on apologising to the SL Management, because the employees were wrong. It seems that it was the guest who called the police and not management. Had there not been an emotional outburst they would have found out exactly what onfolded. Too often in Barbados employees walk off the job and engage in wild cat strikes without any input from tttttheir unions. This must stop other wise we will have a state of anarchy.

    This was confirmed by Sir Roy who said that indeed apologies had been tendered by the employees and himself without success. If there was an acknowledgement that the employees were wrong why force SL to take them back? The other difficulty however is that since this was a repeat of a Nov 2007 incident it was hard for Management to take the employees back.

    It is obvious that things are not all right at SL but in any organisation wherever there is such difficulties one cannot blame management only. Some Barbadian employees leave a lot to be desired in terms of their productivity and attitudes. These same employees very often are capable of miraculously transforming negative behaviours into positive attitudes on arriving to work in UK, USA, etc.

    As far as the Royal Shop is concerned perhaps the BWU should have managed the process better. I have not heard that any poll was taken at the Royal Shop to clear the way for the establishment of a bargaining unit. I also have not heard whether or not the employees who refused to be transferred was either given a letter at the begining of her employment stating that she could be transferred to the Port. Even if there was no formal documentation, certainly there is the question of custom and practice that can be factored into the situation. The employees refused to return to work and were fired. They could have asked for a meeting with the union instead before the emotional outburst.


  16. Time Will Tell,
    The PM and Parris and others came up to New York to celebrate with the Friends of Barbados (DLP) New York Association. Was there something sinister with him getting a flight on Duprey’s jet? Why are you trying to make something of nothing?


  17. The problem with attracting high quality establishments like Sandy Lane is that they really do have high standards.
    It must be really difficult for lazy indifferent people who have never ever employed anyone, to understand the challenges of an employer- especially one like SL.

    How does one operate an establishment that welcomes the world’s elite at exorbitant rates in an atmosphere of bickering, walkouts and confusion?
    These are simple issues that should be resolved without persons outside of those involved even knowing…

    Someone asked what was different about Singapore and Hong Kong?!? Those people UNDERSTAND the realities of business, service, and they appreciate what puts bread on their tables.

    The days of bully unions forcing employers to accept workers as equals and allowing them to do as they like can continue – but only at the expense of most of these highly prized employers moving to greener fields…. we will not miss the water ’til the wells run dry.


  18. Tony Hall // February 19, 2008 at 11:31 pm

    Time Will Tell,
    The PM and Parris and others came up to New York to celebrate with the Friends of Barbados (DLP) New York Association. Was there something sinister with him getting a flight on Duprey’s jet? Why are you trying to make something of nothing?
    **************************************************
    I have now learned the this Mr Duprey, is The owner of CLICO HOLDINGS. If that doesn’t “ring a bell” then, what will.

    With the enormous allegations surrounding Mr Parris and his influence in bankrolling/ financing our Prime Minister and the DLP, I am concerned that already special interest has taken hold on this new administration. e.g. What would be your position if George Bush traveled on Halliburton corporate jet? …

    However, It was posted by………
    Conservatism
    February 19, 2008 at 10:54 pm

    THOMPSON – PARRIS et al ; ON PRIVATE JET TO BARBADOS.


  19. Why are we always so quick to play the race card whenever more than one race is at play. I have said it before and will continue saying it. We as a people need to learn to separate the Issue from the Situation. The staffers could have been getting whipped on a daily basis, that is a situation but to the issue it is irrelevant. If people decide they don’t want their jobs, why fight to make them keep them. All I going to say now is:
    Wanted- Hotel Staff with Experience in the Hospitality Industry an asset.
    Wanted- Sales Staff no experience necessary. Must be able to work where sent.


  20. My hope is that none of the parties is trying to take advantage of the installation of a new government for industrial relations, reasons!!!!


  21. LOL Adrian Hinds …. you know fulll well that the Unions like the MAFIA controllled teamsters in Philadelphia DO NOT have the interests of the common man at heart. You also know full well that in the USA you go where you are sent and that alot of the insubordination that occurs here in Barbados would not be tolerated in the USA. SO dont make the unions and employees out to the saints in this and every conflict!

    Sir Roy brought race into this issue so I am not surprised that bigotted people like him are jumping on that bandwagon.

    SL by virtue of its clientele have to maintain high standards and high expectations from their staff. This is a well known fact. The employees are paid handsomely for their troubles AND most of them do not complain. Why only 17 walked out….that hotel employs many hundreds!

    I think more of us ‘poor black men have to own businesses where we emply our fellow bajans BEFORE we take this ANTI-BUSINESS OWNER position!

    Many of us on here have been workers but how many have owned companies????


  22. Our information is that the man at the centre of the controversy returned to work yesterday, business as usual. In the meanwhile the 17 workers who WALKED OFF the job have been replaced. Maybe our informant thetrashheap can confirm and shed some light on the implications.


  23. Its been my opinion for sometime, that some bajan employees are of the mind set that their employer is a cow and they(the employees) are the ticks to suck everything out of the business. For too long bajans have seen the good times. We have not suffered and gone through hard economic situations like some other countries in the world and thats why these employees don’t appreciate their job. Some employees have this “don’t care attitude” which they bring to work, add to that the mis-interpretation of what the union stands for and what you have is confusion. I have no problem with the unions, however Sir Roy seems to want to go down in history as the one who shut down Barbados, and he will achieve this through the ignorance of these same misguided union members. God Bless Bim.


  24. THE WIDER MEMBERSHIP OF THE BARBADOS WORKERS UNION MUST CALL FOR THE RESIGNATION OF SIR ROY IN LIGHT OF HIS MISERABLE PERFORMANCE IN THE ROYAL SHOP AND SANDY LANE IMBROGLIOS

    One again, in Barbados, a few members of the middle classes that have been calling themselves leaders have taken to seriously and utterly misleading and misrepresenting many hundreds of the rest of the middle classes, and, worst yet, great multitudes of the masses of people of Barbados.

    Time and time again, we have had these few past and present leaders of political parties, trade unions, major sporting associations, etc., in Barbados, that have been very much using, and we dare say misusing, the support of the rank and riles within these various organizations, in order to NOT ONLY accomplish some of their own personal goals, so as to achieve greater status in the eyes of the wider public, and to obtain more income and wealth opportunities, BUT ALSO in order to compete among themselves in this fairly sized and ostensibly specialist clique-group of middle class operatives, as to who can WORST genuflect to, get the attention of, and do the WORST bidding in favour of very oppresive elites in Barbados, and as to who can WORST succeed at getting between esp. the very politically conscious of middle classes and the very hardworking and business minded of masses of people, and the many great ideals and practicalities hoped for and set out to be achieved by them. Those very depressing attitudes and outlooks rather than these so-called leaders performing, and ably so, in the best interests, in most cases, of the bulk of those that they are supposed to be representing in these various organisations esp. when dealing with national issues and matters.

    Therefore, the very disturbing news on Tuesday afternoon that the national strike, or national work stoppage, has been put off with WITH NO SETTLEMENTS BEING REACHED to the impasses at the Royal Shop, and the Sandy Lane Hotel, so that the government would play a greater role in the negoitiations, and, as later heard on the VOB 6.30 am news of Wednesday morning, so that a three-member panel committee would look at ways to helping resolve these impasses, is very indicative of the very poor, destructive and negativizing extent and quality of middle-class leadership of the esp. numerically dominant masses in the Barbados Workers Union organization, with regard to the Royal Shop and Sandy Lane imbroglios. When will these types of scenarios stop? When will the masses of people realize that they have within their own social grouping, ranks and ethoses members who can better provide leadership for them at any point in time with regard to many national, social, political and circumstances in Barbados, and way better too than the very often indecisive and dismal leadership that some of those of the middle classes has long been providing?

    Moreover, in light of the fact that Sir Roy has badly misled and misrepresented the striking workers at both those establishments, the broad members of the Barbados Workers Union, and, by extension, thousands upon thousands of citizens of the country, on the relevant issues pertaining to the negotiations related to and the management of these impasses, and in light of the fact of that he did NOT allow the normal course of negotiations to take place vis-a-vis allowing the Chief Labour Officer and the Minister responsible for Labour to play their respective roles in the negotiations before threatening national strike or work stoppage action in Barbados; that he was unnecessarliy and unwisely publicly communicating, via some sections of the press, what some of the strategies of the union were to the two intransigent establishments; and the fact too that he opted to have, eventually, the said BWU/Employer/Government endorsed panel committee come about, rather than to see the achievement of the wider and greater political goal of making sure that the Royal Shop and the Sandy Lane Hotel employers were indeed to face strike action, and therefore be made out as examples of the lessons that would be sent out to other very unconscionable and exploitative employers in Barbados, the People’s Democratic Congress (PDC) has no other alternative but to ask the wider membership of the Barbados Workers Union TO SERIOUSLY CALL FOR THE RESIGNATION OF THE GENERAL SECRETARY OF THE BARBADOS WORKERS UNION for the RELEVANT reasons outlined above and for the many others left undisclosed, and to realize the coming to office of a far more aggressive, able, strategic-minded and nationalist General Secretary of the Barbados Workers Union.

    PDC


  25. The old adage any publicity is good, often does not apply to some establishments.

    It is therefore prudent for managers/employees to understand this; it is not good for a company to be associated with constant discord and unrest. Most organizations try to protect their “good name” with the zeal with which they protect their bank balance, as there is often a link between the two.


  26. We have had leaders in higher office doing more folly than anyone has ever done in the history of Barbados and I did not see you calling for their resignations. The Barbadian public put them out! Sir Roy does not have the final say of the BWU. The executive council acts as a governing body and they fully endorsed the action that was planned for today and as well as hundreds of shop stewards that attended the meeting held on Monday evening. This means that the whole executive council would have to resign including the General Secretary for you to be happy and that my friend is not going to happen. If some of you critics would realize that the BWU was not the only guilty culprit in this so called mismanagement of this industrial dispute, but equal blame should be placed on those employers involved and some of the other fleas commenting on issues they were not au fait with.

    Now the strike has been postponed. It is up to both parties now to do what they should have done from the beginning. Everyone knows that the Barbadian economy is a very fragile one and no one wants to see any further stain on the people but at the same time we have to nip this nonsense in the bud because if the Union lets Royal Shop which a lot look at this dispute and a small one because of the size of that organization but the issue at the base of the dispute is a small one. As I was saying if we let this type of behavior of victimizing employees because of their association with the union continue, then eventually everyone will feel that they too can do it and in no time render the union irrelevant. Today it is a dozen at thani tomorrow it could be hundreds at the Sea Port or hundreds and Cable and Wireless and nothing can be done about it because we let the horse out the gates. So we must euthanize the horse now before the suffering falls upon the worker.

    As for the Sandy Lane issue with the man in the middle of the dispute back on the job. Yes he was supposed to return to work this week.


  27. superlative1 // February 20, 2008 at 1:51 am

    Why are we always so quick to play the race card whenever more than one race is at play. I have said it before and will continue saying it. We as a people need to learn to separate the Issue from the Situation. The staffers could have been getting whipped on a daily basis, that is a situation but to the issue it is irrelevant. If people decide they don’t want their jobs, why fight to make them keep them. All I going to say now is:
    Wanted- Hotel Staff with Experience in the Hospitality Industry an asset.
    Wanted- Sales Staff no experience necessary. Must be able to work where sent.
    ==============================

    I just love Bim, probably that’s why i am not there. In Boston a couple years ago the Janitors who are predominantly hispanics and who clean all the high rise buildings in the City went on strike, University students at MIT, Harvard etc joined with them, Senators and other politicians refuse to cross picket lines. Would this ever happen in Barbados? probably not.


  28. LOL Adrian Hinds …. you know full well that the Unions like the MAFIA controlled teamsters in Philadelphia DO NOT have the interests of the common man at heart. You also know full well that in the USA you go where you are sent and that a lot of the insubordination that occurs here in Barbados would not be tolerated in the USA. SO dont make the unions and employees out to the saints in this and every conflict!

    ==============================

    I have long separated the actions of Unions in my neck of the woods from the Unions in Barbados, Employee, employer relationships in my neck of the woods are far superior than what is to be found in Barbados, and this is due primarily to competition. It is not true as a common occurrence for a company to transfer people where they will substantially lose income. I had a friend who work for a large accounting firm in Boston, the firm was opening a new office in Miami, and he was the first to sign up. He went to Miami with it’s significantly lower cost of living with his higher North East salary level intact. Unions are a necessary evil in Barbados, and Barbados employers with their elitist attitudes make this so.


  29. Did you know that Intel had a strict non union policy and for the time it was here, it was not unionised?

    It asked alot of its workers and paid them well.

    Also, if my memory serves me right, the Chinese presence in Singapore is relatively recent.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malays_in_Singapore


  30. John // February 20, 2008 at 10:54 am

    Did you know that Intel had a strict non union policy and for the time it was here, it was not unionised?

    It asked alot of its workers and paid them well.

    Also, if my memory serves me right, the Chinese presence in Singapore is relatively recent.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malays_in_Singapore
    =============================

    Intel’s approach is common in my neck of the woods. I have been in an American union once and very briefly, and it was as a condition of employment part-time as it was. My present company preaches the importance of the customer loyalty, profiting from your core, and just as important employee loyalty. Like Intel my company works the hell out of you, but they compensate well, embraces merit base pay, this company has a full-time person devoted to keeping abreast of industry pay scales and benefits in a quest not to be out match and to use them to market the company as the best place to work. They have created their own culture and are constantly thinking of ways to protect it because as they say it is the core reason for their profitability. It is built on a common simple truism, treat people with respect in everything you do and you get the most out of them. I always want to do my best as a result of this. How many companies share the success stories and net profit with it’s staff as a common practice? Most companies when face with an economic downturn take to raiding their employed numbers to protect profits and reduce cost? How many do the opposite, in addition to using the downturn to increase hiring? The small minded business people in Barbados have a lot to learn and i am hoping for the sake of Barbadian workers that they don’t and that as a result of this International companies will come in and take advantage of the legendary work attitude demonstrated by Barbadians in the diaspora, a work attitude that i believe has it’s origin at home, and that is not harvest, invested in, or encourage by the majority of current local employers.


  31. you are so full full of anti bajan emplyer prejudices that it is quite sad. And as usual you try to apply american standards to a 2×4 island where people are paid and treated comparatively well. There is definitely room for improvement but that is not going to come with heavy handed bullying tactics as displayed by Sir roy and suggested by you. Its all well and good to sit at your cubicle in Boston and pontificate about how well your company treats you in a country with so many choices. In Bim the corpoarte structure and current work ethic and limited workforce ( in terms of choice) does not readily allow most business to provide for the situation you describe.

    There are many businessmen …myself included who are making efforts to promote a ‘ we are all in it together culture’ but we are thwarted by those bad apples that seem to be ever increasing.

    Why dont you come down and start a business given that you know how it should work in BIM!


  32. Me // February 20, 2008 at 12:13 pm

    you are so full full of anti bajan emplyer prejudices that it is quite sad. And as usual you try to apply american standards to a 2×4 island where people are paid and treated comparatively well. There is definitely room for improvement but that is not going to come with heavy handed bullying tactics as displayed by Sir roy and suggested by you. Its all well and good to sit at your cubicle in Boston and pontificate about how well your company treats you in a country with so many choices. In Bim the corpoarte structure and current work ethic and limited workforce ( in terms of choice) does not readily allow most business to provide for the situation you describe.

    There are many businessmen …myself included who are making efforts to promote a ‘ we are all in it together culture’ but we are thwarted by those bad apples that seem to be ever increasing.

    Why dont you come down and start a business given that you know how it should work in BIM!
    ==============================

    You call my attention too and respect for my observations of the Barbadians work scene what you like, it changes nothing. What you have define to be the American work place principles doesn’t have to be and certainly isn’t an American only concept. It is not only doable by Americans or condition on the size of the labour market. These concepts are built on the appreciation of each other, and as such is very much doable in Barbados. Our size is not a hindrance for anything, certainly not as it can pertain to employers finding best practices to ensure good work relationships. If a company in north America by way of it’s owners have found that there is a significant link too sustaining profitability and reducing cost by paying quality attention to employee relationships via adequate pay scales, merit base pay, adequate benefits, sharing of information, training etc, why should this be an American thing only, incapable of being implemented in Barbados? Employers in Barbados behave like the little kid who brings the ball and bat for a game of cricket amongst his friends, didn’t like the decision out caught from behind the wicket and decides to let all the others know that he owns the bat and ball. My answer to that is to flood the playing field with bats and balls, and let the little whiny me me mine mine Kid go home.

    I do not have to return to Barbados and actively engage in entrepreneurship to prove these points. Best practices of what i am saying can be found just about any-ware. Plus i left Barbados for the first time ever to permanently take up residence in the US. I said then as i say now that my sojourn in the US is the result of being an economic refugee from Barbados. In my 27 years living in Barbados, having started working the very first day of my last vacation from school i had been fired once, and while i have had good employers for the most part my entire work experience in Barbados has been shape by who you know and very little on what you can do, and coming from de country and poor background i was severely compromise. In America my experience has been the reverse, what you can do trumps who you know, and it is here that i will stay.

    So what is sad is the truth of my observations, but i thankfull that you and others are working to turn things around.


  33. Its all well and good to sit at your cubicle in Boston and pontificate about how well your company treats you in a country with so many choices. In Bim the corpoarte structure and current work ethic and limited workforce ( in terms of choice) does not readily allow most business to provide for the situation you describe.
    ==============================

    Your words just prove my point on several levels.

    Are you attempting to be disparaging in your reference to where i sit? You being a business owner and I am just some person slaving away in a cubicle? Is there something wrong with sitting a cubicle? to the point of prohibinting me from commenting the poor work relations in Barbados? Do you think that the things i mention can go a long way in turning around the corporate structure, work ethic etc in Barbados? Wuh i can only say that if you are willing to be so punitive in your comments with me a total stranger for saying things that you object too, i can only imagine what you would do to one of your employees if they so do. 😀


  34. Consequences guide behaviour. What consequences will there be from this episode? Will the behaviour of the workers encourage employers to trust workers more and give them better conditions? Will the behaviour of the employers encourage workers to be more committed to their jobs? Like David, I suspect good consequences will be hard to find from this sorry tale.

    One of our big problems, which is linked to Bush Tea’s point about the persistence of square pegs in round holes, is that we have an economy and country run with insufficient consequences for poor behaviour. This breeds poor labour and employer productivity. It promotes mediocrity in a world looking for best available. This stifles growth and opportunities and however placid the surface may looks, this can only lead to an underground festering of division and disharmony.

    The best thing for both Labour and for Employers is to push for high economic growth – so that employers have to be good employers to keep and attract good staff who would otherwise leave for other jobs – and once the growth is providing real choices to local workers, make it easier for employers to dismiss underperforming workers, with due compensation and process. There would be bottom line consequences for employers if they were unfair and vindictive to their staff, and there would be big consequences for underperforming workers.

    It sounds harsh and the state would need to provide a stronger safety net for those who cannot keep up with the system, but it will also provide us with the where with all and revenues to invest in the best agent of social and economic upliftment that exists: free education for all.


  35. Thomas Gresham // February 20, 2008 at 1:08 pm
    The best thing for both Labour and for Employers is to push for high economic growth – so that employers have to be good employers to keep and attract good staff who would otherwise leave for other jobs – and once the growth is providing real choices to local workers, make it easier for employers to dismiss under-performing workers, with due compensation and process. There would be bottom line consequences for employers if they were unfair and vindictive to their staff, and there would be big consequences for under-performing workers.
    =============================

    Economic growth: I would hope that we continue to diversify and open up sectors of our economy that are currently not,… as the way to achieve this growth, and that would also strengthen communities. Economic growth without social growth is short lived. Never the less it is a good call , because to date there has not been much movement to open sectors such as the wholesale/import sector as a way to bring choice and competition that would result in more employment choices and lower retail prices, but we have seen a willingness to encourage illegal cheap labour into our space which advantages the employer and disadvantage the local worker.

    …At the height of the Trini Barbados fishing dispute, the then GoB said it was going to institute import licenses on Trinidad goods as they say to monitor the impact that such goods was having on localy manufactured goods. This same GoB dismiss the Union call for a registry on foreign workers in Barbados as a way to monitor the effect such labour had on local labour. They also refuse to look at the possibility of implementing a minimum wage in Barbados. Is it coincidental or planned that all of these these approaches and lack of approaches were to the benefit of the employer class in Barbados?


  36. Now we have the employer class… what else ? how about the the Highr purchase class? and the on-the-block class?

    Without employers there are no jobs! With out entrepreneurs who take risks there is no work!

    Being pro employee without being pro-business gets you nowhere unless Bim wants to be Cuba!

    Workers should never be treated poorly BUT they should also work consistently and continually prove their worth since after all they applied and asked for work! No one owes anyone a job!

    as the saying goes ” ya have to walk a mile in someone elses shoes …”


  37. Me // February 20, 2008 at 1:59 pm

    Now we have the employer class… what else ? how about the the Highr purchase class? and the on-the-block class?

    Without employers there are no jobs! With out entrepreneurs who take risks there is no work!

    Being pro employee without being pro-business gets you nowhere unless Bim wants to be Cuba!

    Workers should never be treated poorly BUT they should also work consistently and continually prove their worth since after all they applied and asked for work! No one owes anyone a job!

    as the saying goes ” ya have to walk a mile in someone elses shoes …”
    ==============================

    Did you object to Mia’s use of the term political class? or anyone use of the middle class, upper middle class, The upper class? the bajan Yankee class, the bajan limey class? the returning national class? Business class, working class, etc. I gine bet that you would “fly first class” as your business owner status leads you to believe you have to do. 😀
    Barbados is a class structured society please don’t make it appear as if i am the one creating these divisions.
    …..Am i being picky like you if i note that you took 3 three sentences to prove the importance of the “Employer class” to Barbados and one grudgingly short sentence to state that the worker should not be treated badly but…..?

    If you keep proving my general points about the employer class in Barbados i may have to do a little more research to see if they are more whose thinking are just like yours and that might lead me to say that this is an assimilated attitude that a person is likely to gain on becoming a Bajan entrepreneur. 😀


  38. Dear Adrian,

    I am all for more information on everything, especially if the government can find ways of collecting information that does not add to the costs and delay of people going about their daily work (sic). More information the better. Ignorance is the breeding ground of poor policy and much prejudice.

    We have had the immigration debate already here. You know my position and so I will not repeat it here or get overly drawn into it again, but I find it interesting that you use the argument of opening up sectors to trade to improve employment and lower prices, but you feel that the labour market is completely different.

    Whatever the causes, of which Bajan employers may be one, we have a labour productivity problem in Barbados. We are not internationally competitive on labour intensive activities and we are becoming less so over time. You argue against protecting overpriced producers in one breadth but not overpriced labourers in the next.

    We need to address this by providing upskilling opportunities to our workers (to help them out of the unskilled market) while benefiting from the higher labor productivity of economic migrants – where the annual number of new work permits is set to balance economic growth with social and economic capacity. We are of course talking about people and citizens and not cogs in the wheel which is why we should over backwards to support upskilling, while not protecting poor productivity.

    By the way, this distinction you draw between economic growth and social growth is a mis-reading of economics as financial accounting. Economics is merely the study of scarce resources. Social harmony and quality of the environment, are two things that good economic policy seeks to maximise. Take a look at “Freakonomics” which shows you how economic analysis can help to explain many social problems, like our current bout of chronic non-communicable disease. http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/author/freakonomics/


  39. BU could you delete the one above? thanks

    We have had the immigration debate already here. You know my position and so I will not repeat it here or get overly drawn into it again,
    ————————
    ———-Adrian says———-
    ***Maybe you don’t want to be drawn into it because the theorist you have cited as proof have no answer to the statistical prof gathered by the center for immigration studies on the question of illegal immigration is the US and on the US economy
    ===========================================================
    but I find it interesting that you use the argument of opening up sectors to trade to improve employment and lower prices, but you feel that the labour market is completely different.
    ———-Adrian says———-

    ****Please don’t deliberately misconstrue what I am saying. In the wholesale/retail sector of Barbados there has been long-term collusion of wholesale and retail prices that advantages the small number of players in this area. This group’s control of market share due to its monopoly control of these sectors means that their prices will always reflect the highest the market will bear, and Barbados being a captive market means that there is no incentive to lower prices, or to engage in any activity to build loyalty etc.. Opening up this sector means to other local players. I have no intrinsic objection to open labour markets, but in the case of Barbados where so far it has been to advantage the employer only, and I believe this is so because, there is no respect for union activity, there is no legislated workers rights, there is no minimum wages etc, ….then I will have problem.
    =============================================================
    Whatever the causes, of which Bajan employers may be one, we have a labour productivity problem in Barbados. We are not internationally competitive on labour intensive activities and we are becoming less so over time. You argue against protecting overpriced producers in one breadth but not overpriced labourers in the next.
    ———-Adrian says———-
    ****Labour productivity: ha ha ha I remember that we had an absenteeism problem, and no statistics to prove such, but the station, and title of the persons making the charge made it so, anyway Labour productivity is low in Barbados. Now in Barbados we have a manufacturing sector, a Retail sector, and a Services sector. They may be others but these are the one I know and will focus on for this concern and belief that we have a productivity problem. It must have been studied that we can so easily report that a problem exists. What are the percentages of these sectors in the whole economy? What are the numbers of employees in these sectors? How much do these sectors contribute to the GDP of Barbados? Etc. As you can see I will have a problem with this belief of low productivity, it needs to be proven. When I look at what the Bureau of Labour in the US for something to benchmark I found that even in the great USA they have a problem accurately pegging productivity in these sectors and pinning down the actual causes for it.

    We need to address this by providing upskilling opportunities to our workers (to help them out of the unskilled market) while benefiting from the higher labor productivity of economic migrants – where the annual number of new work permits is set to balance economic growth with social and economic capacity. We are of course talking about people and citizens and not cogs in the wheel which is why we should over backwards to support upskilling, while not protecting poor productivity
    ———-Adrian says———-
    ****I can agree in general here with you. I said a similar thing when Barbados was in an uproar over luggage trolley at the airport. I wondered why would we condemn a man/woman to the life of a redcap, but I have notice this all across Barbados where people are known to have spend 30 years working in a shoe store, or being a bank teller, or in some other retail position. I am amaze that they were people working at the royal shop for 15+ years selling….. But this is also an indictment on the entrepreneurial class in Barbados in that it shows a lack of imagination. We have a lot “business people” in Barbados with a lot of cash in the bank, but seemly bankrupt of ideas, no it is a more likely to be an unwillingness to grow. Chefette is a prime example, on coming to America in 1993 I immediately notice that Cheffete had an excellent product that could compete favourably in any market of the Eastern seaboard USA. Not only in those areas where this a significant bajan population. BIMAP has had a good concept to capture ideas that could potentially be turned into revenue generating concepts.
    ============================================================
    By the way, this distinction you draw between economic growth and social growth is a mis-reading of economics as financial accounting. Economics is merely the study of scarce resources. Social harmony and quality of the environment, are two things that good economic policy seeks to maximize. Take a look at “Freakonomics” which shows you how economic analysis can help to explain many social problems, like our current bout of chronic non-communicable disease. http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/author/freakonomics/
    ———-Adrian says———-
    **** Not drawing a distinction between the two, I am however highlighting them both as often times post 1960 economist don not place much emphasis on community. If an economist and his economic methods have no social conscience then they should not play a LEADING role in the growth of our economies and our people. 😀


  40. The economics profession is against you on the economics of immigration.

    “Migration is the oldest action against poverty. It selects those who most want help. It is good for the country to which they go; it helps break the equilibrium of poverty in the country from which they come. What is the perversity in the human soul that causes people to resist so obvious a good?”

    J. K. Galbraith.

    In one of the biggest studies of the impact of immigration on local populations, economists Ottaviano and Peri found that

    “the average wage of US-born workers rose by 2.0-2.5% in response to the inflow of foreign born workers between 1990 and 2000 which added 8% to the US labour force. While immigrants lowered the wages of native Americans without a high-school diploma by 1.0%, it raised the wages of those with at least a high school diploma by as much as 3-4%. The workers who gained from migration accounted for 92% of the US born labour force.”

    In his study of the impact of immigration of the welfare state, economist G. Withers consluded “Immigration (into Australia) at a rate of 1% of the population would save the government 5% of GDP in health and retirement support” by shifting the ratio of workers to non-workers.”

    And from one of the fathers of social science:

    “It is hardly possible to overrate the value, for the improvement of human beings, of things which bring them into contact with persons dissimilar to themselves., and with modes of thought and action unlike those with which they are familiar…it is indispensable to be perpetually comparing (one’s) own notions and customs with the experience of persons in different circumstances…there is no nation which does not need to borrow from others.”

    John Stuart Mill.


  41. Maybe the time has come to borrow look at the benefit of implementing an Industrial Tribunal. It would definitely create a buffer between serious industrial action.

    Our dependence on the actions and behaviours of one man who rules his executive and can get what he wants when he wants is not a desirable situation.


  42. “We thank those insiders like trashheap et al who have provided ‘inside’ info”

    Out of interest, on what basis do you say that trashheap is an “insider” on these issues?

    I ask because both at work and where I lime I’ve heard many different (though equally persuasive ) stories about what “really” happened at Royal Shop from people who claim to be in the know – but who on being questioned will admit they “heard it for a fact…from a friend…” Or even “from a friend of a friend”!

    Which isn’t the same thing as real knowledge at all…


  43. We want to clarify something. The strike has been averted because the Union is satisfied that the government needs to be given sometime to familiarize itself with the matter because it is a new government?

    We will be watching future developments in this matter carefully. Industrial Relations cannot be about the aggressive posturing which worked in the past. The competitive landscape and narrow margins which businesses now have to take on means that they need to be assured that industrial relation matters will be managed in a systematic manner which protects all parties all along the way.

    What makes this issue interesting is the apparent lackluster support which the unions have been getting on this issue. Many union members appear confuse about the aggressive position by Sir Roy.


  44. The Nation this morning are claiming that the police say that the money has not yet been recovered. When the truth is out (if it ever does come out) some are going to feel a little uncomfortable, to say the least. I hope and pray that BU (whom I respect, in the short time I have been reading it) will keep us truely informed, as it is very difficult to trust the mainstream media. God bless.


  45. That our world continues to be influence by the thoughts and opinions of these dead men, it certainly cannot be that we do so verbatim. Often we cite the words of these men as it they had a monopoly on thoughts in their own time, this is not the case. Neither can the thoughts and opinions of these men which where specific to the times they lived in are relevant in their whole to what is the reality of our times.

    J. K. Galbraith:
    Can you ask J K Galbraith what is his thoughts on people moving out of poverty into a country with its own issues of poverty? Are Americans to embrace this dead man’s ideas when we have our own New Orleans Katrina poverty issues? What the poverty stricken communities in the Appalachia, and our inner cities? Could he convince a people that they should ignore their own fellow man’s poverty and seek to remedy that of a stranger? Community begins at home.

    economists Ottaviano and Peri
    I would like to see this study for I see some glaring holes in it already.

    •John Stuart Mill.:
    I wonder if John Stuart Mills where he still with us would maintain this view in light of what is taken place in multicultural Britain. Where young Muslim man have taken to destroying their fellow Brit, where native Brits are being banned from displaying the St. Georges flag, and where recently there is recognition that Muslim Law may have to be allowed in Britain.

    The fundamental difference between our approaches is that you continue to ignore reality while I continue to embrace it, for the written word of which your theory and theorist cometh, are thoughts captured and suspended in time.


  46. The Republican White House’s Council of Economic Advisors, pulled together work on the economic effects of immigration in a recent paper, including the studies by Ottaviano and Peri, and they have compiled an excellent list of other references.

    I urge anyone questioning the economic benefits of immigration (skilled and unskilled) to take a look on:

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/cea/cea_immigration_062007.html

    Conservative Republicans who dominate this White House and their advisors are no friend to immigrants, but in summarising their review of the empirical studies, Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisors, Edward P Lazear said:

    “Our review of economic research finds immigrants not only help fuel the Nation’s economic growth, but also have an overall positive effect on the income of native-born workers.”

    This is not a Latino Californian Democrat talking.

    Barbados’s Indian community has its roots in Muslims who traveled here from Gujurat in the first half of the last century. They established their first mosque here in 1950 and the community is over 60 years old. So you want to get rid of these muslims as well do you……The problem with racism is that when forced to face facts it just gets all tangled up into a heap of quivering nonsense.

    I have spent too much time giving respectability to your questioning of the weight of evidence on the economics of immigration. If you refuse to replace prejudice with evidence, there is no point to further conversation.


  47. Congrats to PM Thompson for a job well done!


  48. Leroy Trotman (sir what) wants firing….. period


  49. How can those seven words give an analysis of the strike. I also find it repugnant for you to disrespect the Sir Roy. Please explain why you taking this hard line.


  50. Tessy, thank God it is up to the membership and not you. He may not be perfect, but he has done a lot for the poor workers of Barbados. Dont forget that.

    In my opinion, this business is not over until the fat lady sings. There is more in the mortar than on the pestle.

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