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The following email was submitted by a concerned citizen who resides at Vaucluse, St. Thomas and we have reproduced without any changes to the content. It seems that this is an issue which the sitting MP Cynthia Forde for the area has been unable to resolve. Please note that this communication was also sent to Barbados Free Press and the Nation newspaper.

David

There are just a few things that motivate me to write publicly. When something is wrong, legally and morally, and it affects your community, should one be quiet, or should one place it before the society? When one has a small successful business in a supposedly also successful, happy Caribbean Island is it right to intervene in a community issue? What gives one the right to fight on behalf of community? People are doing a development at Vaucluse without Town Planning approval. For several years now I have led a campaign (quietly in our area) against the establishment of a race track in an area of Vaucluse Plantation, adjacent to Dukes, and close to the villages of Shop Hill, Christie Village, Dukes, Whitehall and Vaucluse. In the beginning it was due to the noise and the anti-social aspects of such a thing being established. A child was killed on the roadways by a truck, unlinked to the track. My family and I were nearly killed by a drunk driver in a line of traffic coming away from an event at the dirt track a couple of years ago. Now, with the mode of its development I observe a dangerous trend in Barbados, one that we should be extremely wary of.

At Christmas 2005 there was a Town Hall Meeting at Lester Vaughan School, where objections were voiced against retention of the dirt track, and further objections were voiced against a drag strip, and expansion, and paving, as proposed by the developer. Subsequently written objections were sent to Town Planning and the Minister. One of those who spoke out against this track being established was the Honourable Cynthia Forde, M.P. for St. Thomas. Ms. Forde has been a friend of those who are against the track, and has spoken out against it whenever we, the residents of the community, have asked. We mounted a petition, an unfinished petition, in our community and received 300+ signatures, covering half of Shop Hill and Dukes, which were delivered to the Prime Minister and to Town Planning: against establishment of this track, with grounds. Many of us wrote objections, which were never acknowledged, or responded to.

Town Planning has issued both ‘Stop Orders’ and ‘Enforcement Orders’ on this development, but to no effect.

Thus we see a picture of (on one hand residents, Town Planning and the M.P. for the area Cynthia Forde) speaking out against; and on the other hand we see the owners and developers doing a development without Town Planning approval. Is this OK? Is it legal? Is it morally correct? Should owners be allowed to retain something that has gone against all rules and regulations? Just what kind of people do things this way? The evidence

Attached are 4 Google earth pictures from 2006, showing the area of the track in 2006. As you will observe when you open it and magnify, the track at this time was a dirt track. The track shown was subsequently paved, which you will see in the 2007 Google earth picture in the following link: but even more construction has proceeded in recent weeks. There has been no approval for any development of this track, and it has been at Town Planning for years as an application. Is it OK for people to develop without permission in Barbados? During the last 2 years the people making this track have really gone ahead, by paving, and just this last month they have brought in backhoes, bulldozers, rollers and trucks. They are making real roads on this site.

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I called Town Planning’s enforcement division on October 3, 2007 when I saw the heavy machines working, and they sent an officer to stop them, but they did not stop. I called again a day later, and they sent an order for them to stop, but they did not. I called Ms. Forde, who called Town Planning. By this time everyone was telling them to stop, and do you know what they did? They did not stop. Yesterday, November 9 2007 I took photos of heavy equipment working at the site, and I took pictures of roads they have made during the past month. I am sending these in another email after this one. From these photos, and looking at the Google Earth images you can PROVE that work is being done, and you can PROVE the time when it was done, and you KNOW that they do not have Town Planning approval. The pictures of the machines working show roads that are NOT ON GOOGLE EARTH- they are brand new!!!

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We the residents said ‘No’. Town Planning said, ‘No’. Minister Forde said, ‘No’. The only person left who can say ‘No’ is the Prime Minister. Will they listen to him and stop?
I have lived in Barbados for 40 years, requesting and being granted citizenship in this special island. I have always believed that Barbados, above all countries in the world, was a place where one was safe from victimisation, where one was protected by the upstanding legacy of our heritage. I thought that all were equal in Barbados under the law. Today I ask a simple question: Are we the special place I thought we were, or not?

Thank you

 

U. Goodenough

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207 responses to “The People Of Vaucluse Said No To Building A Race Track In Their Area, Member Of Parliament Cynthia Forde Said No & The Chief Town Planner Said No, But The Development Continues Anyway ~ Does Anyone Know Who Said YES!”


  1. They are marling, bull-dozing and making roads as I am typing this, as they have done all weekend, despite your having read this thread.

    They have no permission.

    Has it always been this way and we simply did not know?

    Something inside of me is dying.


  2. Before we go any further with this issue which is simply if permission was given or denied…..does anyone have any substantiated proof that TCP denied approval? If available, please post. The person who brought this issue to light should have been responsible enough to obtain a copy of TCP decision.


  3. “They have no permissions.”
    “They have been issued stop orders.”
    “We signed a petition.”

    Nothing but talk, and talk is cheap. Show us that they have no permission. Show us a copy of the stop order. Show us anything. If there even IS anything…


  4. I would hazzard a guess that if the did not have the permission before they will have today, once Bizzy took the time to call Owing and promise him a million or two with half being allocated to the party and half allocated to Owing’s personal bank account all issues will be resolved with one swipe of his pen.


  5. Let’s look at this story in a realistic frame of mind. Mr. Goodenough states that he was working silently to stop this race course, he include mishaps that have nothing to do with TCP permission, he compiled 30 days of development, he have 4 DVD’s of pictures. If this matter had any factural substance, would this good guy not retain a major piece of evidence, which are the two orders from TCP? How come none of the 3oo objectors step forward to comfirm his statement? I am an insane bajan waiting for answers so that I can be smarter.


  6. WIV, I hope when the DLP win this election, if you will have the guts to make such statement. Your bias is killing the blog. Deal with the issue and stop keep casting negatives continually at the other party. Was that the same offer made to “you know who”, after the Transfer Taxes of a certain conglomerate were deferred?


  7. My friend I speak from a point of knowing exactly how Owing has been operating for somewhile now, when he can send someone out to engage a person with a piece of land for sale and he instructs the person making the offer to tell the seller that the gov’t will pay twice the asking price for the piece of land once the seller kicksback the excess between the asking price and the purchase price.
    These are facts as to the manner in which your trusted friend Owing has been operating this is not hearsay these are real, do not stick your neck out to defend him because you may loose your head.
    Your pal is not the most honest person around actually he is as dishonest as they come.


  8. I maybe killing your hopes and wishes for a 4th term but so be it, for me the demise of Owing and his corrupt gang of crooks could not happen to a better bunch.
    What amazes me moreso than anything else is that despite their blatant corruption and raping of the treasury you still have the gall to support and wish them another 5 years of stealing, that really amazes me no end!!!


  9. He is not my pal, and I have no intentions of having any politician as a friend. You made a serious statement regarding underhand dealings by an official of government. If you know that it is a fact, where are the evidence so that this official can be brought to justice? The propaganda machine has been oiled and all pistons are firing. Sound like a scene from the Antigua election.


  10. If that project had approval why are you blogging so shrill-ly?

    ‘Bizzy’ would simply have said it had approval instead of getting busy on the typewriter early in the morning with some threats and commandments.

    So draw your own conclusions…

    I wrote a letter to the editor of the Nation in 2006 entitled “Our rights are important Ursula Goodenough”. It was responded to in exactly same way in another couple of letters to the editor, where the writer said exactly the same things, i.e. to get out of the country. Check the archives and see if you can find it.

    The Nation knows whether this is “Bizzy” or Bizzy. They will even be able to know who the person is, because ‘Bizzy’ is Leon, or someone else.

    All one can do is to await the final word from the PM, and then to see what the action will be. It must be tremendously occupied with estimates and with Parliament, but soon we do hope he will turn his attention and vindicate us.

    The struggle continues. We have no fear. Yes, there is a good chance we will lose because of our limited strength, but it will not be through the use of our opponents’ methods of deception or lawlessness.


  11. Check my posts. I criticise the Barbados Labour Party left, right and centre. I am not of your kind who defend a party morning, noon and night. I always believe that tow terms is enough for any party. I believe in changes so that any wrongs would be to a minimum.
    So with that, stop aligning me with the BLP. I hope you defend your family like how you defend the DLP.


  12. You stop and think about your statement for a minute, it sounds really great. it sounds like something you would hear in a big country,If you know that it is a fact, where are the evidence so that this official can be brought to justice.
    Where and what do you do with evidence of this nature? when the police are unable to get involved when the revelation of that cheque arose, why would you think that they would step in now with some thing such as this?
    That was a very nice call made by you but the reality is that this is Barbados and Owing is allowed to do as he likes without question.
    The question that needs a reply is how many more of these same deals has he made with the Sandy Lane and other elite on this island?
    What is the kickback in each of these cases?
    How has the St.Peter development committee bank account grown at such a rate without the help of kickback deals?
    I doubt very much that most people believe or know that Owing is a dishonest scamp, let us not forget the land deal at Holders if for no other reason he should be charged this is it.
    Then we can toss in VECO, 3S, DANOS, the CHEQUE and the whole package comes together, BRIBERY,FRAUD, CORRUPTION all before the courts and who is in the forefront in all of this your trusted friend Owing.
    Make a lovely story does it not?
    What not to do when entrusted with the power and control of a small island state.


  13. Why choose to get nasty and refer to family?
    That was uncalled for, I honestly thought better of you, because we differ on the merits or demerits of the Owing admistration does not require you to get nasty with your comments.


  14. No man is above the law, whether it is a large country like the USA or a small state like Barbados.
    Yes, we know that money talks, but eventually, someone will fall. Think about Enron Scandal, no one expect something like this would have come to a conclusion.
    The more we accost these people without bringing the facts, the more people will be undecided on voting time. Let’s work in a chronological way and deal with them one by one.


  15. You would not get off the partisan bandwagon and reason. I use the analogy for you to slow up and deal with the no-show of such orders from TPD. Also your constant unnecessary bashing of the BLP, because someone will take up your position to bash your party if it win the next election. My statement is What goes around, comes around. Sorry about the family part, but it was not used to discredit you. You are still my friend.


  16. They need bashing and bashing hard they are a dishonest bunch.
    Thanks for the apology I was dumbfounded that you would resort to that level when I first read it.


  17. Mr. Goodenough, please ensure that you have the facts right before posting. The writer in this Nation letter is a Leon Phillips


  18. According to representatives from the TCP department the Vaucluse Raceway is situated on land that is considered to be the best land for Agriculture. Namely Vaucluse and Airy Cot in St. Thomas because of the elevation and rainfall. The land is to be reserved for agricultural purposes. Also according to the TCP any request for change of use would be definitely against policy.

    Secondly, the company hired by Vaucluse Raceway Project to conduct an Impact and Environmental study listed concerns about the impact of waste on our water given that Vaucluse is a Zone 1 for water collection.

    The TCP representative stated that the racing circuit started before proper approval was given. Work going on is in contravention of an Enforcement Notice and Stop notice(s). Statements made by the Coziers are to intentionally mislead the public – they give the impression that the Prime Minister is in bed with the Coziers. We have no proof of this.

    The attitude displayed by the Coziers is one that is similar to those you see or hear about from the past. A Cozier referred to our Civil Servants as lazy and ineffective. He said that Barbados has the largest Civil Service and still are unable to get the job done and it was basically not his fault if paper work was held up on someone’s desk. He stopped short of saying if the person was being paid to hold the paper work up.

    The Coziers have continued to misrepresent people in the surrounding areas and have gone as far as stating publicly that Dukes was not impacted by noise or anything else. His reports are basically not truthful and should be disregarded.

    Dukes is primarily affected as we are across the gully from the racetrack. We can hear everything going on at the raceway and the noise is from the crowds as well as the cars. What we are afraid of is once allowed then there is no telling how many races will be allowed to run there – it can be every weekend.

    We have lived in Dukes for over 150 years and this little settlement has remained virtually unchanged. We’d like to keep it that way and we do not think we are asking too much given the about of time we’ve been here. We’ve earned that right!

    People here still go to bed relatively early and keep to themselves. They do not like publicity and would prefer if everything would be resolved quietly. This is not going to be the case because we are dealing with some arrogant men and they care little about fellow darker skins in Barbados. Permit me to digress a bit – but note: You are only considered WHITE in Barbados and that’s why you have not left. I thank God that you are only BLACK like me and that’s all we have in common.

    If our Prime Minister wants to sell us all back into slavery for a higher position in the Massa’s house then who can stop him? The so-called Whites will never stop looking for ways to keep us enslaved. Let’s show them that our education was not wasted on us.

    Back to the real issue:
    The complaints against the race way are genuine. We are concerned about our health, property values, damage to our environment, long-term damage to the water supply in Barbados, damage to the surrounding infrastructure (additional traffic on our collapsing roads). What’s even more worrisome is the fact that we have developers in Barbados who blatantly disregard our citizens, laws, civil service. This is not just happening in Vaucluse and the persons behind the building seem to be the same ones.

    Let’s hope that this can be dealt with professionally with due care and consideration for those who have lived in the affected areas for hundreds of years.


  19. POLLY I can feel the passion in your comments, this is the sad truth of life in Barbados now, we for sale to the highest bidders that is why there are so many instances of gross slackness abounding around this island.
    It is for this same reason that the west coast clan can feel like they can walk over any and everyone because they have bought the gov’t out from under us.
    There is some uneasyness between the Bajan white rich and the foreign white rich no wonder the local white rich are getting so hyper and in your face, no wonder they are so active in trying to buy the large parcel of land that Barbados Farms owns they want to create a few more golf courses to sell to their partners and push the piece of the rock further away from our grasp.


  20. 4. Didn’t you benefit too from the over $13 million in foreign exchange that the Barbados Rally Carnival generated last year or were you on another planet?

    How and where would this magical figure arrive from ?

    This sounds like Noeless Lynch reincarnated on this matter very much like his 90,000 visitors arriving for CWC on 700 yachts and 36 cruise ships being in port, what a lot of hog wash.

    When people try to prove a point they will stretch the truth to the extreme to do so.

    I put it to you that this rally carnival may not even have contributed a $ 1 million BDS to the economy further more $ 13 million in foreign exchange, it is even worst than I first guessed because the writer is now stating that they are referring to US dollars or Sterling and not even BDS dollars this is a fabrication of mistruths of a vast extent.

    It begs the question just where would this person have gone to arrive at numbers so blatantly out of wack with reality to be considered seriously?

    Maybe this is Noeless Lynch AKA Muscle Mary reincarnated.


  21. This story sounds so pathetic and well executed, but it is laced with lots of questionable jargon. You are so lucky to hear from a representative of the land use policy for the Vaucluse area and how it the best agricultural area based on its elevation and rainfall. Nonsense, the best arable land is the valley area, namely the Belle, St. George areas, St. John area around Wakefield. Secondly, if that was the case, the TCP would have made that public and in writing to the developer. You said the Impact Study contained concerns about Zone 1 water. Again, nonsense, motor racing cannot affect water supply since emission lessens as the cars go faster. There are no constructed toilets on the compound, only chemical toilets and that’s a fact. I wonder if you would approve a Golf Course on this site, possibly, you will ignore the dangers of a golf course just to expand your egotism. This seems to be a continuation of the first objector of Enforcement Orders which up to now has been placed in the public domain. Yes, Duke is in the area, but I will tell you openly, to let the public know that the noise is that excessive as you are stating, the most you will hear is the backfiring of some high performance cars. What about the noise residents have to live with in the airport area every hour and this is what you call noise.
    You said that residents go to bed early, you might only be inconvenienced six to ten time the most per year. Forget about massa and the slave trade, motor sports is the best vehicle for the mixture of colour and class; and most of all, it is violent free, check the legal authority for confirmation.

    Everyday we come out of our homes or worst yet, you don’t have to leave your home to be affected with the environment, going to work will be more health hazardous than speedy vehicles on a raceway. Remember, traffic jams caused more health problems. What rubbish of collapsing roads caused by vehicles, you are behaving as though spectators will be using ten-wheeler trucks and excavators for transportation. Property values are not in the equation, some countries build villas around such sporting facilities for guests who would like to be near the action. Would you say the homes around Kensington has been devalued, would you say homes around the Stadium where you might go to have a laugh or a scream has been devalued, would you say the route for Kadooment where everyone jump and behave bad, consume gallons of liquor and entertainment so loud that you might hear when the people move off from the Stadium. That is what you call noise.

    Polly,instead of pathetic writing, bring the evidence. This is the only way we will be able to verify your statements, otherwise, I will be on your case. I am not like WIV who might empathised without facts.


  22. WIV, motor sports can be a vehicle for the movement of people. One overseas race car can bring in ten to fifteen people.


  23. Give me a break 13 million is extreme by any stretch of your thoughts!!

    Iput it to you that this figure has been massaged to look good.

    I honestly feel that these folks have real concerns and do have the right to a hearing, since when have we started turning a blind eye to the average citizens concerns.

    If they feel that by setting up a car racing track in their area and choose to protest it what makes them wrong to do?

    Or is because of who is setting it up that no one should be prepared to ask any questions about the track?

    Last time I checked we were still living in a free society and this freedom still allows us to voice an opinion.


  24. Frankology, your arguments hold no water ( a bit like the leachate ponds at Greenland). The airport analogy is false, because the airport was there long before most of the residents in the area actually moved there, so they established themselves knowing that there would be noise. Kadooment is once a year, but the Vaucluse raceway will be used every week by somebody with a big exhaust to show how “cool” they are, just like grown-up rally drivers. Last time I heard, this was supposed to be a democracy, and that gives any person the right to object to their way of live being disrupted by any activity, especially excessive noise. People like yourself feel that they can “shout down” legitimate objections even though they represent a minority in this country. Being the most popular spectator sport does not entitle motor racing to disrupt people’s way of life – it just means that properly planned facilities need to be provided for it, not some haphazard, environmentally destructive development placed willy nilly in a prime agricultural zone. As for ground water pollution, you are not aware that the materials used for the race track will actually seep into the ground water supply? The same for oil and other waste material that will just be dumped on the ground at the site during racing meets. Finally, the fact that the St George’s valley may be considered as the best agricultural land, we all know that Vaucluse is far from being rab land. It has been abandoned by its owners for the pure purpose of increasing its value as real estate. Instead of insisting that the objectors produce copies of the stop orders, which I think may be a very difficult task, why don’t you and the apologists for this monstrosity produce a copy of the planning permission. Cozier et al would surely be happy to produce this and put an end to the whole argument.


  25. Peltdownman~you have made some good points but here is our concern which we will reiterate:

    If the concerned resident of St. Thomas is bringing the case to the public and intends to win, they should try to bring the pertinent information which will garner support. This is very important when one considers the influential lobby which motor sport has in Barbados.

    In a real world the majority often gets what it wants. So yes the resident is in the minority it seems so he or she must do all that they can to win support and not to rely on the scales of social justice.


  26. David
    The motor sport lobby may be powerful, but I would not say that the residents of St Thomas are necessarily in the minority, despite the widespread popularity of the sport, though I agree that they must garner support from wherever they can. My last point was, however, in response to the rather strident position taken by Frankology over asking for the stop orders to be produced. Surely it would be easier for the owners of the raceway to produce the planning permission if they have it, thereby rendering the whole matter moot.


  27. POLLY clearly needs a cracker.

    Get off your “poor black man” pedestal and get on with your life. People like yourself will never amount to anything because they spend their entire life crying out for pity; give me, I deserve, I never got, etc, etc, etc.

    Here’s a novel idea: WORK FOR IT. Lazy BUM!

    If any Cozier did call our civil servants lazy and ineffective then BRAVO – He’s absolutely correct. Nowhere else in the world have I encountered the piss-poor service, asinine attitudes, and general lack of interest as I have with Barbadian civil servants. It is downright embarrassing.

    You’ve taken a discussion on the whether the raceway has a right to be built or not and turned it into an ignorant, racist, narrow-minded point of view.

    It is no wonder some people are so cynical.


  28. There is no way that we will be bated to give up what we have. I could never give Frankology the ability to read the signatures of the humble citizens, because he would then carry them to his friends the developers, and then they too would be tagets to “Bizzy’s” threats. Thus I will not give you access to the petition- not yet. But you can read about it in the Nation archives when it was happening, so you know they have verified it.

    The REAL evidence is up at the top of the page. No amount of red herring cvan convince anyone with any sense that this is NOT an illegal development, and we can all see who it is.

    Criminals will use any means they can to justify what they do. A blogger above asked whether anyone can justify doing anything in Barbados now, and if Frank’s logic runs true, the answer is Barbadians are the wild west, and we are all cowboys. And our neighbourhood the Indian village, Isn’t it?

    CBC has the evidence, the Nation has the evidence. Our M.P. and all the Governmental agencies have the evidence. We are watching.

    When I say the country has cancer I mean that it is gravely ill, seriously ill. No doubt the readers who get this far recognise it. Corruption and greed is eating us from the inside out in this (un)fair land.

    Something is dying within me, and that something is Barbados.

    You are lost.


  29. So the rich car rallying folks are telling us car rallying brought in more than World Golf Champioships. How come Dr. Marion Williams did not state this in her glowing reports on our economy? Lynch told us WGC would be a financial bonanza with lots of tourists. He has not gloated about the golf championships so we know as we saw for ourselves it flopped. The pictures on telly did make Barbados look pretty even in the rain. Lynch recently said he has something big in store for the car racing people. Typical opportunistic pandering. Vacluse maybe part of that.

    When I see the crowds at those insane ear splitting car racing events whites are grouped together and blacks grouped togehter. You wonder why young blacks who cannot afford those expensive play toys leave home in droves to watch the Bizzy’s, Cozier’s, even Leon Phillips and their fellow rich white loafers have”fun”.


  30. Leon Phillips is as black as the ace of spades, not a rich, white loafer.

    Typical example of your ignorant assumptions clouding an otherwise simple discussion.


  31. 4morevalves // Nov 13th 2007 at 8:41 am POLLY clearly needs a cracker.
    Get off your “poor black man” pedestal and get on with your life. People like yourself will never amount to anything because they spend their entire life crying out for pity; give me, I deserve, I never got, etc, etc, etc.Here’s a novel idea: WORK FOR IT. Lazy BUM!

    You left out one sentence 4morevalves “blacks always looking for handouts.” There now we complete.


  32. Clearly this debate has reached the counter productive stage where no solution or clear and constructive dialogue is now possible.

    I tend to agree that too often color is brought into a discussion when it really has little relevance to the core of the argument.

    What little I know about this project one would think that the main focus of the discussion should be on the issues that put it on the board in the first place and those are.

    Is the facility being constructed and operated within the legal guidelines and requirements of all Government Departments responsible and if it is not in compliance, then why is this being allowed?

    How we go about determining these facts intelligently and factually is the main thrust to solving the concerns of all involved. Why are Opposition MP’s not wading in on this dispute to see if what is being alleged is true and then make political points on it? Is that not a valid thought?

    Ranting on this blog and insulting each other has clearly shown me at least that this is another subject getting out of control because of innuendo.


  33. No Name is correct. Race has nothing to do with this issue, nor has it anything to do with attitudes within the public service. These are all red herrings designed to move the argument away from its real purpose. I suspect that the developers of the course are ploughing ahead so that it becomes a “fait accompli”, and then try and force through permission on those grounds, probably after the next election. If it is granted, then it sets Barbados on a very slippery slope indeed – it will development anarchy, and every person breaking the TCP regulations will be able to quote this case as justification, or cry “discrimination!”


  34. There is hope on the way CBC of all sources is investigating and will report on it providing the PM , DPM, AG, Hoyos do not intervene and halt their reporting.


  35. I will deal with the above posters one by one. First Peltdownman….your post “Why are Opposition MP’s not wading in on this dispute to see if what is being alleged is true and then make political points on it? Is that not a valid thought?
    ………………………………………………………………….
    This is the point I have be pleading for as a neutral poster. These people need to start investigating certain problems within the society; instead of sitting back and the pounding of chests after seeing, certain apologists crucify the government side. Things like this win election.
    Now to other sections of your post, the airport analogy is not base on time factor, but reality. The kadooment aspect is not only one day of the year, but almost a month, remember we have tents, competitions and the finale. These noises will affect communities, but no one complains. You talk about ground water pollution seeping into our water supply. The analogy of the airport has more substance than your statement of water pollution. Based on your logic, the whole of Barbados would be contaminated because we have thousands of vehicles on our roads and places like Bridgetown would be the first to be affected due to the many traffic jams that causes air-borne pollution, I don’t even want to talk about gas stations who service vehicles.

    WIV, you are a smart writer and you have a wide cadre of info which I respect, but, and I stress on “BUT”, your actions reflect those of the old days when children gets a lickin’, on the day of question, we would have broken the leg of a dog. Our foreparents will lick us for the dog and include all the wrongs we would have done for a month, so you know the amount of lashes we will get… I say that to say this, you are so smart that you will deal with this issue and pelt in endless things to fire your submission. Anyway, I am still going to oppose when I see your slips showing. These are the reason why the language of being the minority, would not melt my reasoning until I see some sort of facts.

    All this pathetic writing might be based on personal vendetta between two wealthy land owners. Am I wrong Senor Goodenough? Or you want me disclose to the public your ultimate motive.

    This is what you said to David….
    “Dear David
    …No, I am a private citizen, but I know that both stop orders and enforcement orders have been issued many times going back to the year 2000”.

    You also mentioned to David..
    “Would you like to see DVD footage of works, dated works, done over the past 30 days? There are 4 of them now”.

    This is what you said about the “stop orders” you states…
    “By the way, dozens of copies are in circulation. It will do no good to search for someone to beat”.

    THIS IS YOUR RESPONSE TO MY QUESTION:
    “I could never give Frankology the ability to read the signatures of the humble citizens, because he would then carry them to his friends the developers, and then they too would be tagets to “Bizzy’s” threats”.

    Since 2000, TCP delivered many “stop order” you said so. You also said many are in circulation that is another fact, because you said so. Yet, you are so excited to make 4 DVD’s but not able to secure one “stop order”. And finally, you write about not giving me signatures and the nonsense of me giving friends the developer.. What utter rubbish, I never told you that I need them personally; I want you to post them in the newspaper, blogs or even CBC.


  36. NO NAME, my apologies these are really your words.
    “Why are Opposition MP’s not wading in on this dispute to see if what is being alleged is true and then make political points on it? Is that not a valid thought?
    …………………………………………………………………
    And I fully agree and give you 100%.


  37. Frankology,
    Or you want me disclose to the public your ultimate motive.

    Do not play with us if you know things that ought to on the table put them on the table.

    I have supported this person because, I too would have a problem if after the refusal of the permits by TCP division someone were to break the law and continue to do so without the regard for the laws of the land, if you know otherwise you need to state the case.


  38. Goodmorning WIV

    If you realised, I prefer to have the actual facts/evidence before I any mouthings. This is the core factor that is missing in this blog. My mother instilled in me”If you don’t have facts, keep your mouth shut”


  39. Good Afternoon Frankology ,
    Am I wrong Senor Goodenough? Or you want me disclose to the public your ultimate motive.

    I was referring to your comment above, if you have facts pertaining to this matter you ought to bring them to the table.


  40. WIV.
    I understand what you said in the first post, and my sentiment remains until I have the facts.

    I heard from a birdie that the Impact Study for the Flyovers was submitted to the TPD and deferred for more information. WE still await the Flyover meeting as promised.


  41. by Ursula Goodenough

    LEON PHILIPS, on March 16, and Greg Cozier on March 7, wished to paint a wonderful picture of an established car race track in St Thomas, which generates a plethora of foreign exchange. Nothing could be further from the truth.

    We are not protesting the existence of a race track. We are protesting the proposed building of a racetrack in, and near, heavily populated, established residential areas.

    There are people with houses on lands adjoining, and close by, who will experience inconvenience, hardship, loss of property values and health challenges.

    St Thomas citizens are patriotic and support tourism. We support the establishment of a race track in another place, but only where communities and residents are safe from its effects.

    We have lived in Dukes Tenantry for over 100 years. So why is it that we should be expected to put up with a set of abusers, who are trying to destroy our peaceful existence?

    We continue to say that Vaucluse is not an appropriate place for a race track. Residents are already there.

    Our rights are important. Why not put itat the end of Grantley Adams runway, or at a location far away from a residential development?

    We won’t accept the proposed noisy night/day racing till 10 p.m., advertised late-night partying, and novice roadster drivers who fly about after drinks on our narrow, hilly roads.

    We won’t accept their plans for a hugely noisy and dusty, polluting double-lane drag strip from Vaucluse Factory to Dukes. We don’t accept their attempts to close our public road.

    * We won’t accept their planned 12 000 patrons, which is the size of Kensington Oval, in our community.

    * We won’t accept their past and future planned obstructions to our passage.

    * We won’t accept their fans’ drunken driving.

    * We know that property values will go down, as will our health and quality of life, and our right to peaceful enjoyment.

    We plead to the powers. We pray to God for deliverance . . . and appeal to the Government to help us and to protect our rights.

    Does the developers’ money give them greater rights than we the villagers? Surely Town Planning will place greater value on our lives and health?

    Their town hall meeting was called and forgotten at Christmas time, when motor sports organisers knew no one could attend. Shame!

    We cannot move. Many of us are very poor, as opposed to the rich landowners we are up against. Let them have a track at their own house, but please not in our front yard!

    Our little petition is up to 212 signatures, including ALL of the residents of Dukes, which borders on the track.

    And it will grow as more people hear about it.

    This article was written April 17, 2006. Did you see anything about Enforcement orders. Did you see any mention of Town Planning. You see, due to the rigid system within the fourth estate, the writer could not use assumption, or include untruths that is debatable. Thus, the reason to blog her feelings, because we might not ask for verification. Goodenough, why did you fail to address the orders which you stated were in circulation since 2000?


  42. How interesting that you were able to put your hands on this old blog so quickly, Frankology. One might mistakenly think that you have an agenda.


  43. Frankology , What I am missing?
    So why the threat to Goodenough as below?
    What is his ultimate motive as you must know what it is if you have asked him as you have?

    Am I wrong Senor Goodenough? Or you want me disclose to the public your ultimate motive.


  44. Peltdownman, unlike you, I do research before posting nonsense. One thing I am not, is someone’s mouth piece.

    These are the words used by Goodenough…”I wrote a letter to the editor of the Nation in 2006 entitled “Our rights are important Ursula Goodenough”.

    I did my homework and located the story from the Nation’s archives. Now do you think I have an agenda?


  45. WIV, You are not missing anything. The story above was mentioned because the writer said a letter was sent to the Nation in 2006. That was done for research purpose only. The statement of ultimate motive have nothing to do with the letter published. When I have the facts I will advised accordingly. What you should do is read all the information from the writer and you will see some questionable statements without facts. All I am trying to do is decipher facts from fiction and don’t let my emotions rule me.


  46. What U. Goodenough said in 2006
    “We are not protesting the existence of a race track. We are protesting the proposed building of a racetrack in, and near, heavily populated, established residential areas”.

    What David said based on what was said.
    “Bizzy the issue for BU is not the building of the race track but more about the approval or lack of which was highlighted in the letter from the resident of the area”.

    You can decipher


  47. Hi Frankology
    You’re chronologically challenged, but you are slowly learning. You aren’t disputing existence of the petition any more though?

    Why don’t you meet me at the track tomorrow morning and I’ll show you that they have almost finished building an illegal track without planning permission?

    Just confirm a time- I’ll wait at the gate for you for 5 minutes. If you don’t show up, I’ll leave.

    ILLEGAL means a CRIME has been committed!
    ILLEGAL things are done by CRIMINALS!

    What starts out wrong does not turn out right! Teach your children and/or the masses of Barbados to disregard the law and you will have lots more crime soon, and no reason to complain!


  48. And Frank
    I will have a pack of DVDs for you…


  49. Wishing in Vain

    I would like to extend this invitation for you too.

    I do apologise for not having responded to your writing through this thread. You are showing a sincere interest- but I am fearful of political allegiance- have heard you may be a politician.

    The DVDs are apolitical, simply evidence that the crime has been committed.

    Please let me know.

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