COVID 19 UPDATES

The following comment inspired the blogmaster to expand the focus on data collection and discussion about the COVID 19 pandemic. Thanks to @Lyall@Amit

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David; re. your 4:41 am post;

You are correct but I have indeed considered that cohort of the population.

The reason that the US experts are beating the drum for testing, testing and more testing is to get a handle on what proportion of the general public has been compromised by the virus in any way and has left its signatures in body fluids including blood in the population. The virus is shed from the infected body as the disease is brought under control. When it is controlled it has been found that it takes around 7 days for all particles to be shed from the body. Infected persons are released back into the community when they test negative twice over a period of 2 days.

Barbados, like all of our island neighbours, did or does not have access to large numbers of tests and had to use what we had very sparingly. Thus, the only measure that we had for gauging the incidence of the virus in the population (and a very imperfect one, at that) might be by comparing the evidence of infection levels hinted at by a comparison of the graphs of the progress of the various Covid-19 outbreaks in our Islands.

Most of the world was in the same position as the Caribbean and used the data obtained by the minimal testing of infected people and their contacts and their contacts to produce the graphs we see on such sites as WHO and Worldometer etc. All these graphs give an imperfect picture and significant underestimation of infection levels in the county or country in which the tests are carried out, but, since they are carried out in the same way in each country they might provide some rationale for guesstimating the comparative levels of the infection in various groups of countries.

The data shows that, starting out at essentially the same levels, there was some divergence in relation to the rate of infection and therefore progress of the various outbreaks in various countries. The graphs for Barbados showed low and declining levels of infection from the beginning, peaking at the level of 13 positive cases per day and thereafter showing a slowly declining trend. The individuals who would have contributed to the declining trend would have been primarily from the contact testing but should also have included other individuals referred by Health professionals or who presented themselves to Government institutions because of concern that their symptoms might point to untimely death due to the dread Covid-19.

Amit, in an earlier post on this blog, reported on his initiative of graphing Covid-19 incidence over weekly periods throughout the epidemic, in several Caribbean Islands. If David thinks it is appropriate and Amit agrees I can post a subset of graphs clipped from his data for 6 Caribbean territories which I think could illustrate some of what I have presented above.


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There was 1 more positive case announced today as well as 1 death. A slight uptick of the daily cases line is indicated in the graph by the blue line. The total cumulative number of positive cases from the tests carried out yesterday is 76 – Llyall Small

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Attached is the updated C-19 graph for 2020-04-23. There were no additional positive cases from yesterday’s tests and therefore cumulative positive cases remain at 76 – Lyall Small

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Two new positive cases were identified from yesterday’s tests. There are now 5 cases of contacts with a previously identified individual. The 5 cases are workers from a Government Institution. Tests are ongoing today (25 April 2020)Lyall Small

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Updated graph for 26 April 2020. No new +ve cases were found. Cumulative count is still 79 – Lyall Small

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There was one additional +ve case identified today (27 April 2020) from the last tranche of NAB workers moving the cumulative total cases to 80. The graph is still essentially trending downwards – Lyallsmall

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Graphing Covid-19 incidence in several Caribbean Islands – Source data: caribbeansignal.com

2,215 comments

  • Critical Analyzer

    @David

    We bajans are too quick to reach conclusions and start judging before all the facts are in whenever we don’t like something or somebody.

    If there was very little or no transmission arising from the bus crawl, I hope the authorities are man enough to apologize.

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  • First if fanta as i have known to be a beverage
    From what i have learnrd about the food chain
    A beverage is described as food

    Btw on the other issue of whether the guy intent via speculation was to buy weed
    Then why would he asked the lady if there was a shop where he can buy something to eat
    This case going to turn govt portocols on its backside
    Nothing written is clear
    There are all kinds of interpretations and a language barrier seems to be a big problem between guest and hotel staff

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  • The Minister of Home Affairs is saying that the prison is secure. The prisoners are being fed, laundry is being done more frequently and medical staff are on hand.

    It seems to me that at least for the time being the prisoners are better behaved that both the local and foreign wuk-up-ers.

    1400 people tested Sunday, 1100+ tested Saturday. These tests were done on both civilians, prison staff and prisoners.

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  • Nuff damage control
    Wuh yuh expect for the Minister to say
    This is the non transparency govt ever
    What i hear so far is a controlled press conference with many repeated versions
    One can also bet that those questions were well vetted before asked

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  • @ Mariposa

    You’re struggling.

    RE: “From what i have learnrd about the food chain, A beverage is described as food…”

    Although some beverages may be considered or categorised as ‘food,’ ‘soft drinks’ and alcoholic beverages are not.

    RE: “Then why would he asked the lady if there was a shop where he can buy something to eat.”

    Did you actually read the news report?

    According to the newspaper report, Scott told the Magistrate, “A lady was at the fence feeding some goats, so me walk to her and talk to her and she tell me about a shop down the road.”

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  • I think that I will take my medical advice from our infection control specialists at Harrison Point, and not from Critical Analyzer

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  • So wait first time hearing some at QEH doctors and nurses were tested
    Tonight the well PR was filled with low level content
    Govt still gives reasons for allowing people from hot spots entry
    Another thought to.process a couple days the word given was barbados had an increase number of 3000 .
    Now i am trying to.process what Mia says the average load is around 64 on route per flight and how such a small load can give barbados an uptake to an increase of 3000 month

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  • Sherlock Holmes would be impressed with the deductive reasoning of some here.

    “With 170 positive from the prison, it seems the super spreader event was not the bus crawl.”

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  • Critical Analyzer

    @Cuhdear Bajan

    I have always advocated reading and learning for yourself from credible sources which I have been posting lots of them here so you can help yourself and be able to have a knowledgeable conversation with your doctor.

    Putting all your eggs in the doctor basket can get you killed like it has family members of mine because they never questioned what doctors told them when they did not give them the full story because they are more concerned with writing you a prescription and getting paid.

    Doctors are not god and your health is ultimately in no one else’s hands than your own.

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  • The first thing that the government should have done, in relation to the pandemic and the prison, is to commute all sentences of non violent charges.

    Keeping non violent people in prison, at a time when resources are strained, is idiocy of the highest order. By removing them from the equation, the resources necessary to work the prison would have decreased. I do not have the number, but maybe someone here can access violent vs non violent prison residents?

    People need to understand that it is a crisis and so crisis management actions be taken, not the same old. Think outside the box and think what is essential.

    Even now, when the prison is proven Covid free, non violent offenders should all have sentences commuted.

    There is no guarantee that a new strain of the virus will not rise and increase resource issues. So, get down to board and act to cut costs and resources needed.

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  • Why has identifying the new strain of the virus taken so long? Is this info not required to inform policy?

    CARPHA to test for new strain of virus
    HEALTH AUTHORITIES still do not know if the new, more infectious variant of COVID-19 has been identified among Barbados’ positive cases.
    Chairman of Cabinet’s COVID-19 Sub-Committee, Senator Dr Jerome Walcott, said last night that samples were still to be sent overseas for testing.
    During last Saturday’s press conference also at Ilaro Court, he said the Pan American Health Organisation (PAHO) had been enlisted to help Barbados determine if the new strain of the virus was present in the country.
    “In terms of the variant, we have asked PAHO and they have been assisting us in looking at the genomic to see if that variant is indeed present in the Barbados population,” he said then, noting that he was unable to give a timeline as to when confirmation could be expected.
    However, in response to a question from moderator of last night’s public briefing, Starcom Network’s David Ellis, Walcott said it was now the Caribbean Public Health Agency (CARPHA), which is based in Trinidad and Tobago, and not PAHO, to which Government would turn.
    “I have subsequently discovered that CARPHA is offering that service and we are making arrangements for samples to be sent [there] as soon as possible,” he said.
    Walcott did not specify when that process would be completed. (BW)

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  • Member of parliament arrested for breaking Covid-19 protocol
    LONDON – Scottish police have arrested Margaret Ferrier, a member of Britain’s parliament, for allegedly breaking COVID-19 rules when she made a long train journey last year after testing positive for the virus.
    “We can confirm that officers today arrested and charged a 60-year-old woman in connection with alleged culpable and reckless conduct,” a Police Scotland spokeswoman said.
    “This follows a thorough investigation by Police Scotland into an alleged breach of coronavirus regulations between 26 and 29 September 2020. A report will be sent to the procurator fiscal and we are unable to comment further.”
    Ferrier learned that her test was positive at the end of September after she had spoken in Britain’s parliament at Westminster. She has apologised for then taking the train more than 400 miles back to Scotland.
    Her Scottish National Party (SNP) suspended her shortly afterwards.
    It is mandatory in England for people to self-isolate if they test positive for the novel coronavirus.
    (Reuters)

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  • DavidJanuary 5, 2021 6:08 AM Most of our visitors are from Britain. It is most probable that the new strain is present. Confirmation is useful, but probably unnecessary. Circumstantial confirmation is available. If the virus runs through the population like wildfire, it is the new strain. Considering the number of prison officers testing positive so soon, it most likely is the new strain.

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  • And still yet Mia finds excuses for allowing people entry from hot spots
    Why is it that other govts made a choice fo close entry from the UK and did not have to formulate excuses not to do so
    Mia stubbornness and determination gonna land this country health system into a terrible disaster
    Now her main focus is one of getting people to endorse the vaccine a vaccine riddle with doubts and controversy

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  • Barbados today editorial.makes sense
    What most are thinking but govt finds all.excuses in refusing t do so
    Once this virus spreads the evidence shows it is hard to control
    Barbados health care system is heading for total collapse if warnings are not heeded

    https://epaper.barbadostoday.bb/html5/reader/production/default.aspx?pubname=&pubid=87ad6005-1972-4d63-92b0-8927eda53c7a

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  • There were 37 new positive COVID-19 cases on Sunday out of the 1 436 tests conducted by the Best-dos Santos Public Health Laboratory.

    They comprised both visitors and locals, and consisted of 11 men and 26 women. No one was released, so there are now 312 people in isolation.

    https://www.nationnews.com/2021/01/05/covid-cases-continue-rise/

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  • “Republic Bank (Barbados) Limited has today been made aware that one of our team members stationed at our Independence Square Head Office has tested positive for COVID-19.

    https://www.nationnews.com/2021/01/05/republic-bank-team-member-tests-positive-covid-19-industrial-cleaning-2-branches/

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  • A staff member at The Barbados Water Authority has tested positive for COVID-19.

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2021/01/05/bwa-staff-member-test-positive/

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  • Ontario is reporting another day with more than 3,100 new COVID-19 cases, along with 51 new deaths, as hospitalizations hit a record high and test positivity remained at worrisome levels.

    “Locally, there are 778 new cases in Toronto, 614 in Peel, 213 in York Region, 172 in Durham, 151 in Middlesex-London and 151 in Hamilton,” Health Minister Christine Elliott wrote on Twitte

    https://www.cp24.com/news/ontario-reports-another-3-100-covid-19-cases-hospitalizations-hit-all-time-high-1.5253947

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  • Eye on Covid’s mental impact
    by TONY BEST AS THE COVID-19 pandemic continues its global rampage, the Caribbean Public Health Agency (CARPHA) is planning to take a hard look at how the virus may be adversely affecting people’s mental health across the Caribbean.
    That indication came from Dr Joy St. John, a former Chief Medical Officer of Barbados who now heads CARPHA, the Caribbean’s leading public health body.
    “We know that the ordinary person in the street, all ages; we know that professionals who have been fighting COVID, have all had some level of psychological fallout from the way in which COVID has turned everything upside down,” she said.
    Very difficult
    “In the Caribbean we love to lime, we love to party, we love to get together with our families, hugs and kisses. So, it has been very difficult for people to stay apart. So, I am not surprised that at the end of the year (2020) COVID fatigue is playing itself with so many people not wanting to follow the guidelines but wanting to be close to their friends and families.”
    The Caribbean is not alone in this fight, said the CARPHA executive director, a former assistant Director-General of the World Health Organisation in Geneva.
    “We have an expert advisory group. We haven’t done any specific research yet but we have something in the pipeline to go to our research ethics committee which was recently formed,” she said.
    “Anecdotally, around the world all age groups are affected. Some health care workers especially those on the front line in the intensive care and so forth actually display some level of post traumatic stress disorder. It not just something to do with war, it is not easy to come to work and know that although you have tried your best that your patient is going to die,” she added.
    Not the lone worry
    St John said the global spread of COVID-19 was not the Caribbean’s lone worry. Another, she said, was the emergence of COVID-fatigue.
    “People have got COVID fatigue and they are rebelling against things that make living safe,” she said.
    “We determined quite some time ago that we cannot be an island unto ourselves and so we have to learn to live safely with COVID. But it demands that people will have to adhere to COVID, the wearing of masks, social distancing, hand sanitising and other elements of the protocols designed to limit the spread of the disease, make people feel safe and keep them alive.
    “We really can’t slip up on this one,” she said. “We are at a critical juncture. The way that COVID has upended almost everything is astounding and my hope is that when it comes to mental health, the stigma attached to it in the Caribbean is extensive. My hope is that because of COVID and its impact there would be a change in attitude,” she added.

    Source: Nation

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  • When is Barbados going to bar visitors from the UK?

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  • TIME TO BEG FOR HELP.

    Staff members at the Barbados Port Inc are off the job.

    Local sex industry expert Charles Lewis on Tuesday appealed to health authorities to work with the sex trade to mitigate the impact of commercial sex on the spread of the coronavirus.

    Attorney General Dale Marshall confirmed an officer attached to the Hastings/Worthing Police Station tested positive for COVID-19 and the station will be closed temporarily.

    On Tuesday, more businesses announced their closure as a result of the growing number of COVID-19 cases in Barbados.

    https://www.nationnews.com/2021/01/05/more-businesses-close/

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  • How come nobody gets flu anymore?

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  • Critical Analyzer

    Are the idoits in authority now going to look at changing the protocol and start aggressively pursuing an early at home treatment protocol now one single case in any company shutting down the whole place for at least a week.

    Early at home treatment and monitoring is the only solution unless we happy to pay whack-a-mole for the rest of the year into next year.

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  • THE PUNCHING ABOVE WEIGHT CREW DON’T HAVE A WAY OF TESTING ON THE 2 x 3 ISLAND WHETHER THERE IS A NEW MORE CONTAGIOUS STRAIN OF THE VIRUS HAVING TO DEPEND ON OUTSIDE LABS IN OTHER COUNTRIES.

    NOW THE UK HAS DISCOVERED A SECOND VARIANT AND THE JACKASSES STILL HASN’T SHUT DOWN UK FLIGHTS FROM COMING IN PANDERING TO THEIR WHITE SHADOWS AT THE DETRIMENT OF THE LOCAL BLACK MASSES.

    IGNORANCE HAS NO BLISS

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    A second new strain of COVID spreads fear in Britain as Boris Johnson dithers

    BARCELONA, Spain — On Monday morning, millions of small children across England piled onto buses and headed back from Christmas holidays for their first day of primary school, a move strongly discouraged by the British government’s own scientific advisory board but heartily encouraged by Prime Minister Boris Johnson, who on Sunday told BBC News that despite a surge in cases of a new and more contagious variant of coronavirus that “schools are safe” and that “the risk to kids, to young people, is really very, very, very small.”

    Monday evening, however, in what has become his trademark style, Johnson, noting a 30 percent jump in hospitalizations over one week, shut down all schools — for seven weeks at least — imposing a rigid lockdown across England, advising Brits to stay at home and minimize all contact with anyone outside of their household. Laura McInerney, education columnist for the London-based Guardian newspaper summed up the astonishment of many, tweeting “So, to be clear, we just sent 3 million children into primary school FOR ONE DAY, so they could all mix around the virus, and then go into lockdown? That’s what’s actually just happened, right?”

    Which is to say drama is afoot far from Georgia and D.C

    The new year in the U.K. is starting out very rocky — with the country battling not one but two variants of the coronavirus that have sent new case numbers quadrupling in a month. The U.K.’s 57,000 cases reported on Monday exceeded the case numbers of Germany, Italy, Spain and France combined; since Christmas Eve, the number of deaths jumped by more than 7,000 to over 76,000, the sixth-highest COVID mortality figure in the world. The true economic consequences of Brexit, the ever-divisive leave-the-European-Union movement that Johnson helped engineer, are still to be felt since the withdrawal officially went into effect on Jan. 1, but the backup of trucks to and from France, when that country closed the borders hoping to keep out the new strain of COVID-19, left many apprehensive of what’s ahead. Some expect food prices to jump by as much as 12 percent.

    Even Britain’s rollout of quickly approved vaccines, which had the world cheering the West’s first mass immunization program only one month ago, is now drawing cocked eyebrows from American infectious disease specialists such as Dr. Anthony Fauci. There’s been skepticism ever since Johnson’s government began bucking manufacturer instructions to develop a novel program of their own — allowing months rather than the prescribed three or four weeks between the first and second doses as well as a mix and matching of different vaccines. And despite the former London mayor’s populist inclinations, his popularity is plummeting, with merely 37 percent approving of his job performance two weeks ago, before his latest flip-flop.

    “I have little faith in the ability of government to sort this out,” said London resident Jo Cadier, who’s tired of Johnson’s vague messaging and constant U-turns about coronavirus restrictions. She fears that the government’s goal of vaccinating 14 million by the middle of February is a pipe dream.

    “We need someone to unite us,” says Emma Horridge, who works in the arts in Manchester. During the summer, when the government was actively promoting citizens to patronize restaurants and bars, “I thought, ‘We’re going to pay for this.’”

    Amid widespread confusion and frustration, many in Britain believe the country should have been locked down months earlier, when the new, more contagious variant strain, first detected in Britain, began spreading. (It has since been detected in many European countries and several U.S. states.) Now the second variant, from South Africa, is further alarming health officials, with Matt Hancock, Britain’s health secretary, telling BBC radio on Monday that he’s “incredibly worried” about the South African variant, which poses “a very, very significant problem.” Scientists say there’s reason to think that existing vaccines may not offer full protection against the new variant, which thus far has not shown up in the U.S.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/as-a-second-new-strain-of-covid-spreads-in-britain-theres-blood-sweat-and-tears-but-no-churchill-100008834.html

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  • The Dullard posted this on Dec 31. Reposting it here.
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    https://barbadostoday.bb/2020/12/31/airport-employees-await-covid-19-test-results/

    Barbados TODAY understands the two Brits arrived on Sunday afternoon aboard Virgin Atlantic Flight 131 from London Heathrow. One of the visitors tested positive while quarantining at a popular south coast hotel. Prior to being isolated on Tuesday, the couple reportedly removed the red wristbands identifying them as quarantining guests, boarded a taxi and attempted to leave the country on British Airways Flight 2154. However, they were held by police last night and taken into isolation.

    Will they be treated like our Jamaican cousin? Or do we reserve the harshest treatment for only those who look like us?

    Chief Magistrate Ian Weekes issued that clear warning today as he sentenced Jamaican visitor Dean George Scott to six months in prison for leaving his quarantine centre to purchase “Fanta and other stuff” at a shop.

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2020/12/31/jamaican-sent-to-prison-for-six-months-for-leaving-quarantine/

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  • @ Dullard

    Our Jamaican cousin left the quarantine hotel to buy a drink, eve if some now try to interpret Fanta as a code for drugs. But someone who cut off the identifying wrist band, got a taxi to the airport and tried to board a flight out of the count4ry, has been fined a paltry Bs$12000 of about £4000.
    Then listen to the idiocy of the chief magistrate: we find out if people can pay the fines. How can someone so stupid be a chief magistrate? His job is to hear the evidence and decide if innocent or guilty, if guilty what is a suitable punishment.
    Barbados is not only a failed state, which it is, but deferential, kow-towing, embarrassing. No wonder white Brits like the island, it is the next best thing to Apartheid South Africa.

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  • It is amazing you can sit in Covid infested UK and know all the considerations by Magistrate Weekes. Yours is an opinion like all others. Also why would we send a visitor to prison for the offense and not fine her ass heavily given what is currently unraveling at Dodds?

    #steuspe

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  • Critical Analyzer

    @Hal Austin
    Don’t blame the chief magistrate, blame the system. He is only working with what he has been given.

    She had Andrew Pilgrim as her lawyer to plead her case and they also produced a doctor’s certificate to say she suffers from anxiety.

    If the Jamaican had had that level of defense, he probably would have gotten off with a very small fine.

    We have to see what happens with the boyfriend since he is really the one in trouble since he knew he was positive.

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  • @Critical

    Having a top lawyer and a doctor’s certificate should be a good reason for the chief magistrate to be more attentive. Was the doctor a psychiatrist?
    I agree the system is flawed, but the chief magistrates words were not forced down his throat. That ignorance came from within his head.
    The fact is the Jamaican should not have been sentenced to six months in jail just for trying to buy a soft drink; while you had two vagabonds, white vagabonds, trying to escape from the country and, in the process, put other passengers at risk.
    No excuses. Our Apartheid slip is showing.
    This is Barbados; this is who we are.

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  • Poor from Ian Weekes. But no surprise.
    Grovelling riposte from the unctuous blogmaster. But no surprise. I wont bother to point out the illogic.

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2021/01/06/tv-star-fined-bailed-for-jumping-quarantine/

    Looking ahead, Bajans should expect much more of this two-tiered approach given the broke government’s zeal in inviting disrespectful foreigners and laying out the red carpet while maltreating their own people. I hear they call it “tourism”.

    The shortage of funds means that the govt will under even more pressure to be lenient to foreigners in the hopes of wooing them back and having them spread a good report.

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  • Do not expect you to accept a reasonable rationale in the circumstances.

    No surprise at all. In an imperfect situation solutions will not be perfect.

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  • What is reasonable about sending our Jamaican cousin to Dodds for half a year while giving a relative slap on the risk to a Brit whose action was much more egregious?

    As I said. Grovelling, unctuous and two-tiered.

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  • @ Dullard

    By now you must have an idea of the chairman’s level of reasoning, the one which some people come on BU and claim it is such a wonderful site that they will tolerate anything from him.
    It is Plato’s Allegory all over again. It is food if you have bakes and saltfish and mauby, or if you have fine wine and caviar in a Michelin restaurant.

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  • Did you listen to the AG re in and out policy at Dodds given Covid outbreak?

    Did it register how bailable and fines will be given priority?

    Do you even understand what is happening on the ground?

    #steuspe

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  • No surprises here, as soon as you read a comment that disagrees with the blogmaster, like flies on shit your predictable comment is sure to follow. Why not try to grow to hell up at act your age.

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  • Plse explain to the blog why six months in prison was fair and reasonable for a Jamaican who left quarantine to buy a soft drink, and a fine of £4000 ((Bds$12000) is fair for a white English ‘star’ of a sex-charged tabloid television programme, who ripped off her identification wrist band, ordered a taxi, ran off to the airport and tried to board a flight out of the country with a diseased accomplice.
    Then to impose a bail condition of Bds$20000 (£6000) for a further offence. Why was she not remanded in prison, given she had already attempted to escape? Was bail opposed by the prosecution?
    Plse tell the blog what was fair and just about such a sentencing policy.

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  • The issue if your head is not so hard to understand is that there is no intake at Dodds because of the outbreak and need to manage the problem. The AG stated a few days ago the judiciary will aggressively facilate bail requests and heavy fines for those fences. Other offenses requiring g confinement the BDF stockade will be utilized.

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  • @ David,

    The BLACK Jamaican spending 6 months in jail for leaving quarantine.

    The WHITE British tourist get fined £4369.20 for leaving quarantine.

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  • @Hants

    The argument by the blogmaster addresses a rationale for why the visitor was not jailed. Have no issue with your argument re fine.

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  • Attorney-at-law Harry Husbands says his client Zara Holland accepted the terms handed down by Chief Magistrate Ian Weekes after leaving the District D Magistrates Court in Cane Garden, St Thomas. He offered a public apology on her behalf. Holland was charged with breaching Barbados’ quarantine laws. She was fined and granted bail.

    https://www.nationnews.com/2021/01/06/bail-set-20-000-zara-holland/

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  • Come on, you’re misrepresenting the facts. Let’s be fair.

    “The BLACK Jamaican spending 6 months in jail for leaving quarantine,” because he was UNABLE to PAY his £2,18.89 fine.

    The Magistrate could’ve taken into consideration Scott came here to work and he only went to a nearby shop to but “juice and other stuff.” The $6,000 and the subsequent sentencing were, in my opinion, a bit too harsh.

    “The WHITE British tourist get fined £4369.20 for leaving quarantine,” and avoided jail time because she was able to pay the fine.

    I believe Holland’s actions, which were far much more serious than Scott’s, merited the maximum fine of $50,000 or 12 months in prison, if she was unable to pay.

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  • @ Artax,

    Another case for the CCJ ? Jamaican lawyers not happy with the sentence given to their compatriot.

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  • Plse pretend to be intelligent for once. Forget the intake at Dodds and what the attorney general has said. Do the differences in sentencing appear to be fair to you? Yes or no? Just think about the offence and the punishment.

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  • @ Hants

    I agree with those Jamaican lawyers who are seeking to represent Scott.

    We should exercise some level of fairness. A Barbadian and a Swiss were each fine $6,000 for breaking quarantine and were given 6 months and 7 days respectively, to pay their fines.

    Why also fine Scott $6,000 and give him 24 hours to pay it?

    It isn’t fair.

    If it is true he came here to work in construction, the Magistrate should’ve given him a specific time period in which to pay the fine.

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  • NorthernObserver

    IMO…the respective sentences were wrong, if only because both offences were the same….breaking quarantine. We can argue degree (fine relative to maximum), but the sentence should have been the same. The various courts/judges need to get on the same page.

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  • Its a pretty tricky balancing act to balance celebrity, media ,tourism dollars and the great unwashed …..like the french revolution some of you guys want the WHITE chicks head others say take an arm or nipple, you have to give her a spanking but not to look too heavy handed with your biggest tourist dollar spend. They dont give a rats ass about the jamaican guy they care about a fellow brit.
    It wasnt that long ago the jerry hall drug thing could have exploded in your face,( anybody who believes she didnt know what was coming in the package is pretty dense) but they did the right thing keep the tourism bucks coming in she even brought her octohubby there a few years back. Its all about keeping repeat business

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  • A new CoVid variant has been discovered in Brazil. Mottley should ban all travellers from the UK, Brazil and South Africa. We are playing with fire.

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  • Mottley chasing the dollar
    123 ready go is her motto for the economy

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  • IMO…the respective sentences were wrong, if only because both offences were the same….breaking quarantine. We can argue degree (fine relative to maximum), but the sentence should have been the same. The various courts/judges need to get on the same page.

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    IN ALL MAGISTRATE CASES RE COVID THERE IS ONLY ONE JUDGE DEALING WITH IT CHIEF MAGISTRATE IAN WEEKES.

    SO THIS FOOL IS DOING AS HE WANTS SINCE HE SOLELY IS JUDGING THESE CASES OF QUARANTINE OR CURFEW BREECHES ON THE 2 x 3 ISLAND..

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  • The Jamaican man should not be held for six months because he cannot pay the fine. That too is two-tiered justice.

    I believe the man really did not understand. He thought leaving and coming back was not the same as leaving. Some people are just stupid.

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  • Only a jac.asss magistrate would sentence a person to jail for six months after the person explained to the court the reason was to buy food
    The jamaican lawyer is correct by saying the magistrate could have been lenient in his sentencing by ordering the man to do community service
    This poor guy is now locked away in a COVID prison environment
    This too can be a cause brought on constitutional grounds since he was placed in an unhealthy environment

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  • “Only a jac.asss magistrate would sentence a person to jail for six months after the person explained to the court the reason was to buy food.”

    Where was it mentioned that Scott left the quarantine centre to buy food?

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  • Did he not say he had a craving and he bought a fanta
    I suspect that your squibble about what items he bought would be told when the case is brought before the CCJ
    Stay tuned

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  • “Squibble,” what??

    It is dishonest of you to purposely misrepresenting the facts.

    Since when a ‘soft drink,’ whether it be ‘fanta, coke, sprite, frutee or BIM, considered a ‘food?’

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  • It can be digested in the stomach a placed where food is stored
    Now u can bring in all kinds of ridiculous examples to prove me wrong
    However the contents in that beverage is also found in many other edible and legal products for consumption

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  • SMDH!!!

    I don’t think it’s possible for anyone to bring anything that’s more ridiculous than your Mariposa January 6, 2021 8:02 PM.

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  • Ok
    Spot on dic..head
    Now wait for when the case reach the CCJ to get your answer

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  • Here are a list of items considered eligible to buy under USA govt SNAP program and catorgorized as food

    Any food for the household, such as:

    Fruits and vegetables;
    Meat, poultry, and fish;
    Dairy products;
    Breads and cereals;
    Other foods such as snack foods and non-alcoholic beverages; and
    Seeds and plants, which produce food for the household to eat.

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  • RE: “Spot on dic..head.”

    Your self-appointed lawyer and fan club chairman recently wrote, “You get abuse when people cannot have a civilised discussion.” Unable to sustain a reasonable discussion, you’ve resorted to personal abuse. According to him, it is as a result of ‘learning by rote.’

    RE: “Here are a list of items considered eligible to buy under USA govt SNAP program and categorized as food…”

    You’ve essentially quoted policy related to “eligible foods,” which are foods and other items that may be PURCHASED with Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) benefits.

    RE: “Any food for the household, such as:”

    The food items you listed are specifically designated as eligible for purchase with SNAP benefits. It DOES NOT represent a SCIENTIFIC definition of ‘food.’

    Ironically, I also recall your self-appointed lawyer and fan club chairman mentioning something about people Googling and using information they do not understand. You’ve proven him correct once again.

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  • With four people at the Queen Elizabeth Hospital (QEH) testing positive for COVID-19, three of whom are staff, management is appealing to the public not to visit the institution unless absolutely necessary

    https://www.nationnews.com/2021/01/07/four-cases-covid-19-qeh/

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  • Two more visitors refused to adhere to protocols at Hilton Hotel.

    Look, we have to do something about our dependence on this tourism. These people have no respect. They think they can do whatever they like all over the world.

    Lock them to rh up!

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  • The only person that needs locking up.is the person who has allowed this virus to enter the island
    Especially knowing that the virus was deadly and have catastrophic effects to livelihoods
    Knowing all that there is to know and evidence to prove of the devastation about this virus
    Then why would a govt allowed people to bring the virus to.a poor 166sq miles country that have limited health care
    Furthermore these protocols not going to work because of a known symptom called COVID fatigue and that is a fact

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  • Symbolic gestures and words of lewd actions speaks to a person way of thinking
    SMDH falls into such category

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  • Rule-breaker fined
    Chief Magistrate answers critics of Covid-19 sentences
    by HEATHER-LYNN EVANSON heatherlynevanson@nationnews.com
    CHIEF MAGISTRATE IAN WEEKES says he will not be fazed by the rumour mill, social media or petitions when it comes to fairly adjudicating COVID-19 matters.
    “I need to make it very clear because I don’t think it has been made clear,” he said yesterday while dealing with quarantine flouter, former model Zara Holland in the District “D” Magistrates’ Court.
    “I am a creature of statute and I must follow the law in sentencing. I am not here to satisfy any members of the public,” he stressed.
    “Whatever decision I give may sometimes help to deter certain types of behaviour by members of the public. But this court, having dealt with all of these matters, would have done means assessment of all the persons who have appeared before me and, contrary to public opinion, this court has just not jailed anyone.”
    Jamaican jailed
    Chief Magistrate Weekes was speaking against a backdrop of social media discontent about his incarceration of a Jamaican national for six months after the man indicated he could not pay any money for his breach of quarantine; the imposition of $6 000 fines on a returning Bajan and Swiss national for their offences, and a recent online petition calling for British national Holland to be jailed for her breach of quarantine rules.
    Holland pleaded guilty to contravening Paragraph (14) of the Emergency Management (COVID-19) Curfew No. 4 Directive, 2020, that there being a directive requiring every person to observe such social distancing and associated protocols in the interest of public health imposed from October 29, 2020, to March 27, 2021, in that being a person in quarantine at Sugar Bay Hotel, she did leave the hotel without a reasonable explanation on December 29.
    Holland, who was staying at the Hilton Hotel, was held at the airport after she and her boyfriend cut off their quarantine wristbands and attempted to flee the island after he returned a positive test for COVID-19.
    Chief Magistrate Weekes was at pains to spell out the reasons for his decision as he sentenced her to a fine of $12 000 in seven days or nine months in prison, with an international warrant of arrest attached if she does not pay the fine. He also made it clear that the procedure he followed with Holland was the same one he used with every other accused who appeared before him and pleaded guilty to a quarantine offence.
    He stressed he was not showing any favouritism to the woman and had always been consistent in his sentences.
    “Not that I am worried about the public, but I want this court, which is the only court with the authority to deal with these matters, to be consistent,” he said.
    The Chief Magistrate, who had the ear of journalists from several local media houses who were in court, said imprisonment only came after the court had exhausted all other options.
    He explained the court’s first priority was always to make an assessment “where there has been wrongdoing according to this legislation to see how the person can assist in purging their wrongdoing by a monetary penalty.
    “I will always have an assessment as to their ability to pay. In circumstances where they cannot pay, the court would then look at any other options to make sure that person understands the serious nature of the breach.
    “And that is what I have always done,” he said, adding it was in the public’s interest to understand how sentencing was done.
    The public should not assume that the court adopts a “one size fits all” approach to its sentencing, he said.
    “We do not take a whimsical approach in terms of how we sentence. What people need to understand is that the court does not just go around jailing people because people may want it. We are a jurisdiction that has always had great respect for the rule of law and we will continue to practise that. This court has not just sentenced anyone to prison contrary to public view.”
    He added through all the sentences, the court had to ensure the right message was sent to the public in relation to breaching the law.
    “I am not worried about the rumour mill. That will be what it is. I gine still get cuss regardless but that comes with the job,” he said.

    Source: Nation

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  • Bajans to perform at virtual celebration for VP Kamala

    AvatarArticle by
    Barbados TodayPublished on
    January 6, 2021

    Three Bajan artistes have been named to be part of a virtual Caribbean inauguration party for United States’ Vice President-elect Kamala Harris under the theme: Celebrating #CaribbeanAmericanKamala.

    Edwin The General Yearwood, Kirk Brown and Toni Norville are set to perform at the event which will be broadcast on Sunday January 17, the day before Martin Luther King Day.

    The event promises to be “an impressive gathering in cyberspace” with some of the Caribbean’s most notable artistes, dignitaries, and organisations marking an important moment in history – the official swearing-in of Kamala Harris as the first female and the first black Caribbean-American US Vice-President at the 59th Presidential Inauguration.

    Both Edwin and Kirk Brown have deemed it “an honour” to be selected to be a part of the virtual celebration. Efforts to reach Norville were unsuccessful.

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  • JUSTICE FOR BLACK JAMAICAN

    Release him from confinement as soon as possible and let him return to Jamaica.

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  • Why hasn’t anyone appealed against the sentence? Do lawyers in Barbados do pro bono work? Do we need a free legal advice centre?

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  • Jamaican lawyers have indicated this case going to the CCJ.and rightfully so
    An injustice beyond comprehension
    A sentence of six months for buying food

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  • Shaking one head falls into the category of symbolic gestures and words of lewd actions????????

    Thine…..

    Nah….. BLA (best left alone).

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  • SMDH
    Never mind

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  • @ Mariposa

    A hungry (and/or thirsty) man goes to buying a drink and in so doing leaves the quarantine area, and he is sentenced to six months. This is not only savage, it is barbaric.

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  • Critical AnalyzerJanuary 4, 2021 4:41 PM

    @David

    We bajans are too quick to reach conclusions and start judging before all the facts are in whenever we don’t like something or somebody.
    YES INDEED WE DO LIKE TO DISOBEY JESUS’ INJUNCTION OF JOHN 7:24
    JUDGE RIGHTEOUS JUDGEMENT AND NOT BY THE APPEARANCE I.E YOU CAN NOT ADJUDICATE PROPERLY WITHOUT HEARING ALL THE FACTS

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  • Two British nationals were fined $6 000 each today for breaching the island’s COVID-19 laws.
    They are Andrew Lecker and Julia Knightley who are staying at the Colony Club Hotel at Porters, St James.
    The two appeared before Chief Magistrate Ian Weekes in the District ‘D’ Magistrates’ Court this morning and pleaded guilty to contravening Paragraph (15) of the Emergency Management (COVID-19) Curfew (NO 4) Directive, in that being persons under quarantine at the Treasure Beach Hotel, they did invite Jamaican woman Mikaela Jacas to the premises without permission…..(Quote)

    One rule for whites, another for blacks.

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  • Hal AustinJanuary 7, 2021 1:46 PM

    @ Mariposa

    A hungry (and/or thirsty) man goes to buying a drink and in so doing leaves the quarantine area, and he is sentenced to six months. This is not only savage, it is barbaric

    #######What would Jesus say !!!

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  • https://www.aircanada.com/uk/en/aco/home/book/travel-news-and-updates/2020/new-entry-requirements.html

    The Government of Canada has restricted non-essential travel of foreign nationals across its border. Foreign nationals wishing to enter Canada by air for optional, non-essential or discretionary purposes will not be permitted. Non-essential travel includes travelling for purposes such as tourism, sightseeing, recreation, entertainment, social visits and religious functions.

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  • There were 780 confirmed cases to date

    There were 780 confirmed cases to date – 334 females and 446 males – and 335 recoveries. The number of deaths remains at seven.

    https://www.nationnews.com/2021/01/07/780-covid-cases-eight-recoveries/

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  • Observing how the total count keep rising
    Govt slow crawl of testing and getting results out in a timely fashion is causing more confusion and frustration
    Barbados needs to get its house in order
    But never mind USA problem is what is mostly on Barbadians minds

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  • Observing how the total count keep rising
    Govt slow crawl of testing and getting results out in a timely fashion is causing more confusion and frustration
    Barbados needs to get its house in order
    But never mind USA problem is what is mostly on Barbadians minds

    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    THE USA IS BURNING DISTRACTION HOWEVER THE 2 x 3 ISLAND IMPLODES WITH INEPT LEADERSHIP AND CORONA VIRUS RUNS AMOK THROUGH THE LOCAL BLACK POPULATION WHILST WHITE HOTELIERS REAP THE SWEETS.

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  • Yeap
    The black population going to feel the brunt of this virus financially and in many other hard ways
    So sad when this could have been avoided

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  • My little city is the only one in canada that tests the waste water daily, which gives us a heads up in a potential rise in cases and whether a new variant has become prevalent in the city so we can adjust safety restrictions. Cant bwa test the water at worthing beach daily.

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  • After making an assessment of Love’s financial means, Chief Magistrate Ian Weekes fined him $8, 000 in seven days or nine months in prison….(Quote)

    This chief magistrate is a joker. Is he qualified? So justice is for sale. Where is the attorney general?

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  • @Lawson
    that isn’t totally accurate. Many cities/towns/municipalities test the waste water daily, what Ottawa is attempting to do, is to find and track Covid-19 infection levels via that wastewater using RNA levels. At best, it becomes an indicator as to whether Covid cases are increasing or decreasing, in a broad population.
    Your jab at local wastewater being pumped into the ocean, will make measurement almost impossible.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    “But never mind USA problem is what is mostly on Barbadians minds”

    No, that’s nonsense. There are multiple issues which must attract our attention and the US election fracas is a major one … it does not and CANNOT detract us from our own major local issues as this covid surge surely is.

    “Observing how the total count keep rising Govt slow crawl of testing and getting results out in a timely fashion is causing more confusion and frustration
    Barbados needs to get its house in order”

    Of course the govt has to get this under control and fix the perception of having different rules for members of the political/business elite and regular Bajans.

    In the matter of testing and prompt results … let’s criticize the Mottley crew as needed … she faltered badly when she was photographed mask-less partying with Drake and other celebrities and this surge is truly a long term result of that ‘us and them’ laissez faire attitude … we get that.

    …But she has activated her govt response with urgent attention NOW so let’s give the team our support to get this under control and take on the PM down the road yet.

    She does deserve purposeful criticism … not self serving cheap political sniping!

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  • Critical Analyzer

    He knew he was positive, tried to skip the country and only get 8,000. His girlfriend who was negative get 12,000. He should have gotten 18,000 and borrow the 10,00 from his girlfriend. I wonder how much money his lawyer get paid.

    I never ever heard about a means test for fines yet. Bail yes but not a fine.

    So you mean I could have saved my money when I had to lend my friend money to pay a seatbelt fine. If she did only know that is how fines working, she could have said your honor, I can’t afford to pay the fine, please for a discount sir.

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  • Critical Analyzer

    I see another judgement against us coming from the CCJ for the poor Jamaican mason.

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  • dont get your knickers in a knot , funny you say that many cities are testing sewage daily for covid our city does it with ottawa public heath, the university of ottawa researchers and the childrens hospital of eastern ontario checking both the scale and varient, I guess the news media got it wrong.
    Doesn’t that pipe go along the beach on dry land before it goes in to the water where they could easily test it before it is diluted. or is it as you suggest they can only test at the end of the pipe. lol

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  • ” After making an assessment of Love’s financial means, Chief Magistrate Ian Weekes fined him $8, 000 in seven days or nine months in prison. The fine was paid.”

    The BLACK Jamaican spending 6 months in jail

    The WHITE British tourist get fined £2918

    #jail the poor # fine the rich.

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  • NorthernObserver

    I didn’t say many cities were testing sewage daily for Covid. Like you, I said they test the wastewater daily.
    And if Ottawa is working with many agencies to attempt to perfect a test, what makes you think the BWA can test easily, regardless of what point they extract their source material from. Jab for jab?
    In Ottawa, the majority of its wastewater ends up in a single facility. Hence once they refine their testing, they now have to get multiple collection points, to further identify possible geographic levels of infection.

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  • De pandemic
    Speak for yuhself mariposa speaks to what is being observed
    I recall many months ago when many voices were calling on this govt to close borders to hot spot
    Now the sh.it has hit the fan and the mostly poor would be affected there is more than enough room to criticize govt and a leader who hae been hell bent in serving purpose for the hotel industry an industry which has sucked off govt nipples and when hard times befallls them having nothing worth while to bring to table that would be helpful in pushing the economy forward
    Presently the 166sqmiles finds itself in ducks guts because govt has lean ever so forward to help these mcguffies from failing
    Meanwhile other sectors of the economy are left to fend for self and now the most vulnerable in this society stares down the nozzle of a gun called COVID because of govt stubbornness
    Hell no! No fanfare coming from my side

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  • Barbados is at the crisis point and long talk about govt vdoing best doesn’t mean nothing to those who have been tested positive
    The long and short of a story that began with a govt policy of open borders to hot spot and closing with over 800 people being affected
    Do the numbers and see if the opening of borders along with govt spend on fighting the virus makes good policy

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  • Actually observer we know exactly where the highest cases of covid are in ottawa.66 percent come from the colored communities cbc put out the data. So we only need one testing point to see if it is increasing decreasing, or changes in the virus.
    You are right we have only one facility (greens creek ) where I worked for two years expanding and revamping their controls. I dont know if barbados can test easily I thought had have capable people…dont they?

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  • NorthernObserver

    lawson… my point is the testing today is still in its embryonic stages. Besides all the local Ottawa players you mentioned, they also have ‘brain power’ coming from multiple other sources. I am sure the Bajans are capable, but methinks one is months away from an accurate test. And in a population of 285,000; where only a smaller number deposit into multiple sewer systems, what is the benefit?

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  • The benefit is forecasting whether they can relax restrictions a bit or ramp them up it allows staffing forecasts where and when etc the last thing anyone wants is to be behind the curve because vaccinations are probably a long way off for the islands. Any tool would be useful , knowledge is power…even though smaller amounts of people deposit into multiple sewer systems by simple math you can get a pretty good guestimate for the whole population kind of like Nielsen ratings or Rasmussen polling..Everything is about optics if you look like your doing more than the next guy people will be more trusting , give you more leeway. and forgiving when something messes up ..and it will.

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