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Ryan Straughn
Ryan Straughn, Minister in the Ministry of Finance

The technical definition to describe Barbados being a scarce country is – “ its lack of fresh water resources, … water availability of just 306 cubic meters per capita per year, [which] makes [Barbados] the 15th most water‐scarce nation in the world”. (Forbes 2019).

Many Barbadians struggle to understand why Barbados is considered a water scarce country with rain water allowed to gush into the sea to name one concern. The blogmaster understands from the engineers it is uneconomic to trap runoff water generated from seasonal rains.

In recent days two news items related to water availability piqued the interest. Manager of Water Resources and Environmental Management Alex Ifill confirmed the Barbados Water Authority (BWA) does not have the capacity to support any increase in agri-food production. He also warned that climate change will soon adversely affect farmers currently engaged in rainfed farming.

The other point worth discussing was raised by Minister Ryan Straughn while participating at an IMF forum last week. In a nutshell the plan by government appears to treat and convert dirty water to potable. The offshore revelation has triggered negative public commentary from Barbadians who have historically been proud to promote good water quality.

… so let me see if I understand. The BWA makes money from selling a commodity called water. The more water it can produce the more it can sell. So if there is a demand for this item, why doesn’t this entity increase the supply of water to its clients? We have the desal option, we have damming which can either be done privately or by the BWA. What is the volume of water for instance that runs into the ocean every year from lack of capture? How much water does the pond at Lears hold? How much does the Farmers pond hold? Why cant we identify the flow paths and dam those outflows to the sea, then treat the water from them and introduce that water into the local supply?

This response by the BWA is typical of why we are where we are. Its always the glass is half empty response here isn’t it?

John A

Public concerns about government going in the direction of treated water is understandable against a background of deep mistrust in government. Let us agree successive governments have not executed simple projects well. The science of tertiary treatment process to convert ‘sewage water’ to potable although tested will never be trusted by locals. That Minister Straughn would blunder into asserting government’s plan in an offshore forum BEFORE having a national discussion is unsurprising. A good question to ask Minister Straughn and government is – what does it take to nurture public trust?

Barbadians (The Collective) are not entirely blameless. We wash our cars, power wash our homes, use potable water to flush toilets, refuse to get serious about replacing leaking mains, sell water to cruise ships to list a few ways water is mismanaged. However what is known, there is bountiful supply of sewerage water.

What is the plan, anyone?


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78 responses to “A glass of local water anyone?”


  1. sweet tallk.


  2. David
    on October 27, 2023 at 6:57 AM said:
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    Concerns are being raised about the wholesomeness of injecting treated waste water into the aquifer. Should there be concern about the ability and capacity to safely undertake the task? What about the cost benefit of going the suggested route compared to desalination? There is managing the understandable concerns of the public by implementing a comprehensive educational outreach plan.

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    Start here


  3. This is the type of water that would come out of Lake Ontario for Hants to drink!!


  4. Barbados used to boast about having some of the purest water in the world.


  5. Lake Ontario is one giant cesspool!!

    Yet from it comes all of the drinking water Hants consumes, assuming he drinks from the tap and does not buy bottled water.

    Every day assuming he does so every day, he bathes in it, he washes his face in it, he cleans his teeth with it and he waters his garden with it.

    https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/hamilton-uncovers-second-leak-dumping-raw-sewage-into-lake-ontario-for-decades

    https://eos.org/articles/great-lakes-cities-sewer-designs-mean-waste-in-the-waters

    The reason Hants can do so is because it is treated to WHO standards or whatever standards are applicable where he lives.

    Likewise Hal Austin in London.

    He gets his water supplied to his house from rivers which are polluted with sewage.

    The only reason Hal doesn’t get sick is because like the waters of Lake Ontario, his water is treated.

    Similarly, Grasshopper depending on where he lives.

    ….. and GP too.

    Here’s the problem.

    Water treatment does not remove all impurities.

    We have never until the 1990’s had to depend on any water treatment because all of the supply wells had control zones around them which meant that the travel time to them exceeded the life expectancy of bacteriological contaminants.

    However, regardless of the travel times inorganic contaminants won’t be removed.

    We get traces of agricultural chemicals, household chemicals, pharmaceuticals and whatever other chemicals are used on the surface.


  6. Tap water in Toronto.

    ” Before water is pumped for distribution to homes and businesses, the following is added:
    chlorine to destroy bacteria and viruses
    fluoride to help prevent tooth decay
    ammonia to ensure chlorine levels remain present as water travels through the distribution system
    phosphoric acid, which is used for corrosion control to help create a barrier between residential lead pipes and drinking water”


  7. I have been drinking bottled water for the last 20 years and have a fridge with a filter for making ice .

    When I was growing up in Barbados I used to drink water from the stand pipe and later from the pipe in the kitchen in our chattel house.

    I am 71 years old so any germs I have absorbed since I was about 16 yars old may have been destroyed by Banks and Jonnie Walker. lol

    three score years and ten. into bonus time.


  8. When the ladies of Ontario on the pill have to pee, much of it ends up in Lake Ontario.

    https://www.sciencefocus.com/the-human-body/what-happens-if-a-man-takes-contraceptive-pill

    What happens if a man takes the pill?

    “Good news: nothing will happen if he only took one. There’s a one in four chance that the pill was a dummy anyway, as most packets include seven tablets with no drugs in them (meant to maintain the habit of taking the pill while the ‘withdrawal bleed’ happens).

    If he regularly took the ‘combined pill’, which contains oestrogen and progestogen hormones, it would have mild feminising effects, such as wider hips, softer skin and slight breast development.

    The oestrogen dose is about a tenth of that taken by transgender women, but it’s a form of oestrogen associated with higher risks of deep vein thrombosis, so it wouldn’t be a good idea for anyone wanting to transition. Regularly taking a progestogen-only pill would have the main impact of reducing his sperm count and libido.”


  9. “If a man took just one or two birth control pills, nothing would happen. There is not enough of either hormone to throw a man’s body out of balance with just a couple of pills. However, if a man took birth control pills regularly over an extended period, his breasts might grow slightly larger, his testicles might shrink a little, and his sex drive and amount of facial hair might decrease. He also might develop softer skin and wider hips [source: Guite]. Higher levels of estrogen also increase the risk of infertility, because an imbalance of the hormone affects production of quality sperm. Exhaustion, reduced muscle mass, osteoporosis, trouble focusing and even hot flashes are other known side effects of too much estrogen in a man [source: Healthline].”


  10. I posted the following on the other water topic yesterday in response to john A.

    John2
    on October 26, 2023 at 12:27 PM said:
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    Barbados is a socialist country ( both parties ).
    Comparing BWA to coke is apple and oranges (Socialism vs capitalism).
    Now compare what would happen to our health system if we privatize the hospital and polyclinics(How many poor people would wait until the last minute to seek care) to the system here in USA where some hospital close when they don’t make enuff money because they had to treat people without insurance/ can’t afford to pay ( usually immigrants)
    Or compare the two tertiary educational systems
    Who will suffer the most under ur capitalist system that averything should be run like a business/ to make profit?
    =====.

    If you understand the concept and operation of the pond that you and John talk about under another topic then that is the way to provide the cheapest water to farmers. The MOA did some damming for some farmers in st Phillip is another example
    Claybury and Redland plantations were doing it from the 80/90s
    As farmers will mostly need extra water during the dry seasons then ur water treatment plants would be out of operation for about half the year
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    Now if u want to put back the run off water into the system then the best and cheapest way would be instead of damming and building treatment plants – let the run into the hole and percolate to the aquifers. Your three dams would be operating like the modern concept of the well and be large enuff to be mechanically cleaned
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    BY DEFINITION bim is a water scare country
    IMO for right now we have enuff water around to fill our needs but we need more reservoirs in the higher elevations .
    Note how the one put in on the road from branchbury to Chimborazo ( castle grant) in st Joseph has greatly improved the lack of water conditions in the surrounding areas


  11. If you understand the concept and operation of the pond that you and John talk about under another topic then that is the way to provide the cheapest water to farmers. The MOA did some damming for some farmers in st Phillip is another example
    Claybury and Redland plantations were doing it from the 80/90s
    As farmers will mostly need extra water during the dry seasons then ur water treatment plants would be out of operation for about half the year

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    In the St. John Valley where Claybury and Redland are located has plenty of rain so lower evapotranspiration, like Farmers. There will be less rain because lower elevation.

    A few years ago, early 2018 if memory serves me right, the ponds were dry because there was little rain. I think the main one sprung a leak. They are after all situated in depressions which are there because they are on top of collapsed caves. Karst.

    Take a look at the St. John Valley and you will see it is pock marked with depressions do extremely porous. There is of course Gutter Road opposite Andrews which leads to the lower parts of the St. John Valley so you could expect it to act as a gutter for water from the higher elevations of the valley in the Andrews area.

    BWA has a pumping station at Sweet Vale so it is unlikely anyone is going to be able to get permissions to pump in the St. John Valley, so ponds are the only option. The St. John Valley also feeds the Applewhaites Basin where BWA has a well.

    For most of the year, the St. John Valley will be verdant, unlike St. Lucy.

    You definitely do not want to store water in a pond in St. Philip, pure folly.

    … or Christ Church or St. Lucy.

    You may ask how come the Graeme Hall Swamp always has in water?

    The answer is that it is because the bottom is below sea level so what you see is the fresh water lens floating on sea water but at sea level.

    There is a well at Graeme Hall on the ridge, far enough from the Swamp to ensure its salinity is lower and water suitable for irrigation.


  12. BY DEFINITION bim is a water scare country
    IMO for right now we have enuff water around to fill our needs but we need more reservoirs in the higher elevations .
    Note how the one put in on the road from branchbury to Chimborazo ( castle grant) in st Joseph has greatly improved the lack of water conditions in the surrounding areas

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=0be4sIUzUZc

    Here’s the problem.

    The only way to keep the reservoir with water is to divert it from other areas.

    The demand for water in Barbados is larger than the supply and has been since the mid 1990’s.

    If El Nino runs true to form next year and serious drought returns in the dry season there will be shortages in areas supplied by Belle and Hampton as water is diverted to St. Joseph.

    The infrastructure is now there to make diversion of large volumes easier so St. Joseph should be better off …. but somebody some where will go without water.

    And it will get worse as more and more development is allowed.

    I live in an area that has until recently experienced few if any extended water outages.

    A burst pipe now and again but no outages for a day or two.

    It could be there were problems which needed to be fixed but my bet is water is being shuttled around.

    Now, I don’t have a problem with this, everyone should have water.

    But accept the limit placed on construction of new houses and stop it.

    How you will know for sure is that you will see the KWh used by BWA increase.

    There is where solar power could be used to reduce energy costs.

    However, the electricity consumption can’t be hidden because once you know the size of the solar installation at the various pumping stations you just have to add it to the amount consumed by BWA from BL&P!!

    Nothing in this life is free and allowing housing developments in higher elevations means BWA has to push water up a hill, in the case of Castle Grant, to 1,104 feet or about 335 metres.

    Have fun calculating how much it will cost!!

    https://www.cottoninfo.com.au/sites/default/files/documents/Fundamentals%20EnergyFS_A_3a.pdf


  13. The Reservoir story from the AG is not for sensible people.

    After all …

    https://barbadosfreepress.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/dale-marshall-idiot.jpg

    The more things change the more they remain the same!!


  14. Keep the discussion going.


  15. You haven’t by any chance noticed any of the effects on yourself or the population of consuming water with high estrogen levels over the period of your sojourn in Canada?!!


  16. Once the waste water is treated to acceptable standards and those standards are maintained day in day out, injecting it for percolation into the aquifer is acceptable.


  17. @ John on October 28, 2023 at 11:36 AM said:

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    You haven’t by any chance noticed any of the effects on yourself or the population of consuming water with high estrogen levels over the period of your sojourn in Canada?!!
    (Unquote).
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    An excellent point raised there, Sir John!

    Maybe a similar phenomenon can explain why Bajan young males and females are ‘afflicted’ with such large breasts when compared to earlier generations.

    Maybe further analysis of this phenomenon can explain why there are such fast increasing rates of breast cancer in Barbados.

    Is it true to say that Barbadians (especially the youth) are some of the highest consumers of (processed) chicken meat in the world?

    Maybe you can use your excellent research skills to tell us what is fed to chickens to make them ready for the dinner table in such a short period compared to the old-fashioned ‘yard-fowls’; of course, not the-political variety like “Enuff”.


  18. @ John on October 28, 2023 at 11:38 AM said:
    (Quote):
    Once the waste water is treated to acceptable standards and those standards are maintained day in day out, injecting it for percolation into the aquifer is acceptable.
    (Unquote).
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    Such an assurance cannot be expected under the present political dispensation and management regime.

    This is a management where over 40% of the water, pumped and treated, goes back literally down the drain under the pseudonym of ‘Non-Revenue Water’.

    Would you allow the current management to continue operate in a culture where burst pipes are reported but not rectified in a timely manner despite the country is classified as a water-scarce country?

    Didn’t the management of the same BWA initially put the blame on vandals tampering with the ‘manholes’ for the overflow of sewage onto the streets?

    Who would want to forget the role of ‘lying’ politicians in the South Coast Sewage fiasco?

    Maybe the IMF has privatization plans for the BWA in order to bring about the kind of efficiencies required to give the kind of assurance(s) you as John Citizen expect.

    The question is who would own this public utility:

    Bajan investors with loads of money sitting idly in bank accounts and insurance portfolios?

    Or (as in the case of the BL&P) to foreign investors with loads of foreign money which the current government would sell its ‘material soul’ to the financial Devil to get its hands on in order to keep Bajans living with a false image of paradise called Conspicuous Consumption?


  19. I did not know 🐇 /🐰 does comedy.

    One only has to look at the videos provided by Hants to note his delight in music, fine women and current events in Barbados.

    Toronto’s water is not his kryptonite.


  20. Had some tasty chicken a day this week at a function but can’t remember the last time before that I ate any.

    Went off it a while back.

    I know about laying hens, but never looked into their feed.

    At the end of their lifecycle they are prized for stewing, and real cheap if you know the farmer.


  21. @ TheOGazerts,

    I admire the educated intellectual maguffees on BU and do read some of their posts but I spend most of my time enjoying music videos thanks to Google and YouTube.


  22. Hants on October 23, 2023 at 12:50 PM said:
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    Should I visit Barbados will be buying bottled water for drinking.

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    Hants

    Was just responding to your comment a few days ago about buying bottled water next time you come to Barbados.

    My bet is our water is far better than most urbanized areas in the developed world because of the coral cap and wanted to show you why … and get a laugh.

    That’s the reason I have said that COVID is/was waterborne as well as airborne which is borne out by looking at the most affected countries and areas within countries.

    That’s why lockdowns were so ineffectual because those in areas with affected water sit in the homes and consume the affected water.

    Common sense says if you caught it from water you got a large dose, far larger than if you caught it from airborne transmission.

    Ground water is superior in quality to surface water because of filtration and time of travel to the wells.

    Surface water has everything and anything in it.

    Turned out not many treatment plants were using UV as a final stage.


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