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Submitted by William Skinner

Recently in a submission to BU, I mentioned a story appearing in the local press about a six-year-old citizen, selling her first piece of art. In the interview, her mother said that she was conflicted, in exposing her daughter to such activity at a very tender age. She did not want to send the message that everything is about money. However, she concluded that her daughter’s passion, came at the cost of some expensive art supplies. In the end common “cents’ became the reality.

We stupidly believed that the world would have waited on us, to embrace the emerging technologies. While we waited, teens in other countries, were already becoming millionaires by creating and selling computer programs /apps. We wasted almost twenty years boasting about “punching above our weight”.

Our children were therefore denied the excellent opportunity of mastering basic computer skills, and many have left school lacking the competence to turn on a computer. Edutech was a monumental failure. And to this day, the architect of that calamity has never explained the disaster.

Our children must compete in the global market. Countries with limited resources must have educational institutions that impart knowledge and skills to navigate their local, regional, and international challenges.

An honest assessment of successive administrations reveals their innate ability to prefer presentation over content. They always fail to deal with the issues and challenges we need to face within our educational system. The latest fallacy being promoted, suggests there are no “good or bad” schools. We should ask our children what they think about that! We are trying to convince ourselves that the system is not elitist. We are still contending that each child, who sits the Common Entrance, has an equal chance of “passing” a “fair “examination.

Many citizens are asking what will replace the Common Entrance. Almost two years have passed since the current administration informed the public that it would be abolished.

We continue to blame the parents and those teachers, whom we think are not the best ,for the failures of the system.

Our children are not responsible for poor parenting or teaching. No child chooses his or her parents. Our children should have at least one daily nutritious meal and be exposed to the best educational institutions. We must ensure that they are provided with all the means to enjoy a happy, healthy childhood. They must be protected from all forms of abuse.

Very urgent and comprehensive legislation is needed to give our children protection. For example, adults who are accused of abusing children, must be removed from the home immediately; children under the age of fourteen should not be required to give evidence at trials where they have accused adults of abuse. Once the state determines there is a case, there should be no need for the child to be a witness and be cross examined. The accused is at the mercy of the court and his innocence or guilt will be determined by a jury.

Those found guilty should be placed on a public record as molesters and be not permitted to reside or frequent anywhere where children gather this will include play parks, schools, and other places. There should be a minimum sentence of twenty-five years for anybody who rapes a child. Penetration could be any object.

As a nation, we must protect and develop our only natural resource. We are all parents and guardians of all our children.

As we embark on the new Republic journey, we need to ask ourselves: how seven of ten children in the nation’s care, from the Girls Industrial School, became patients, at the psychiatric hospital on suicide watch. The next question is are we collectively doing right by our nation’s children.

The alert parent mentioned at the beginning of this piece, knew, the difference between reality and illusion. Our children have all the inner resources to make the future of our country greater and like that parent, we need to always know the difference between cents and common sense


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121 responses to “Our Children – Knowing Cents from Sense”

  1. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    @ WURA
    The points being made by @ Artax and @ TheOGazerts are intellectually sound.
    I don’t think that it can be seriously argued that a Bajan Tuk Band performing in any other country, will automatically turn them into Bajans.
    That being said, the truth remains that it is ironic that we seldom see the promotion of authentic African culture on our island . We tend to restrict it to dancing and so on and this often degenerated into wukking up and almost pornographic vulgarity, that really may be our culture but has nothing to do with Africa.
    In other words while other cultures within our community tend to produce elements of their culture, we often display that we are not that knowledgeable about our African culture.
    This then, in my humble opinion, brings us back to your correct position that in order to counter this obvious ignorance of our authentic culture, we ought to teach our children from very early( primary schools) about their African heritage.
    Quite frankly, regardless of what is said, in a country with a population that is 95% African, we have determined that the teaching of African culture/history in our schools , is not that important.
    So therefore,if minority groups and expatriates in the country seek to promote their culture, we cannot honestly blame them.
    It is our fault that we choose to be underlings in our own country.
    Also, the point that our children should not be deprived of being exposed to other cultures is progressive. The best way to defeat and conquer your enemy is to understand his culture.
    So again@ Artax and @ Theo position on this issue cannot be convincingly faulted.
    “The fault is never in the stars it is in we ourselves, “
    In all intellectually seriousness, a strong argument can be made that most of us seem more comfortable with the Eurocentric/ white culture.
    I often observe how we gather inQueens Park, to promote “ stand pipe “ brawls and obnoxious portrayal of “ lower class “ people “ as our culture/ art.
    I brought water from a standpipe for seventeen straight years and I never saw that behavior. I came up in a village with poor people and their were not loud and ignorant/ aggressive.
    I say no more for now.
    Peace.


  2. “it’s the shite males. chauvinistic in nature, who generate bitch fights and confusion on BU….i imagine that’s how they were raised…”
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I’ll invite contributors to read AOPC/WARU contributions beginning from Friday, May 13, 4:08 PM and the eleven (11) others thereafter.

    You’ll FEEL the HOSTILITY and see the following pejorative remarks:
    “Geriatric Pimperella, biggest asses on BU, dummy central, geriatric idiot, drunken bitches, fake scholar, Geriatric Perv, BUs CHAUVINIST PIGS and their nasty personas, Dr. No Common Sense, clown, hos/prostitutes…”

    Surely it becomes clear WHO is “generating bitch fights and confusion” with GP and all those other persons who do not necessarily agree with her opinions.

    But, “I imagine that’s how SHE was RAISED.”


  3. The best Afrikan education for the children would be a trip to Afrika

    I’m coming home

    Broken, bruised and battered
    Wandering this world aimlessly
    As the house nigga of this country
    As the house nigga of this country

    I’d better find myself
    Before I breed my self hate into this world

    Sampa the Great – The Return

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    “I don’t think that it can be seriously argued that a Bajan Tuk Band performing in any other country, will automatically turn them into Bajans.”

    I repeat…the SCHOOLS are NOT THE PLACE for other people’s cultures, especially since BLACK CHILDREN IN BARBADOS do not know their own Afrikan cultures OR LANGUAGES…….that’s my only point, i don’t care what music they play in their wuk sessions or shite they put in the heads of adults who deserve their road to perdition…,…am speaking about FURTHER INDOCTRINATION of young vulnerable Black minds…

    “we tend to restrict it to dancing and so on and this often degenerated into wukking up and almost pornographic vulgarity, that really may be our culture but has nothing to do with Africa.”

    now they do it to entertain tourists and have young children wukking up for tourist and don’t even have the decency to engage an Afrikan dance group to show/teach them the real dance history of Afrika..

    “Quite frankly, regardless of what is said, in a country with a population that is 95% African, we have determined that the teaching of African culture/history in our schools , is not that important.”

    am all for exposure to OTHER CULTURES and languages, i speak other languages daily, as long as THEY KNOW THEIR OWN CULTURE AND LANGUAGES FIRST..the ignorant will never understand that, that’s why they are ignored..Again, there is no country in Europe or ANYWHERE ELSE will allow other people’s cultures AND LANGUAGES to take precedence in THEIR SCHOOLS BEFORE THEIR OWN…only the dumb asses in Barbados would..

    “It is our fault that we choose to be underlings in our own country.”

    they see it as a place of pride, shite misleaders…

    “In all intellectually seriousness, a strong argument can be made that most of us seem more comfortable with the Eurocentric/ white culture.”

    house negros, they can only relate to cultures that REJECT THEM….ignore and reject their own and get laughed at…like clockwork..

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    “This then, in my humble opinion, brings us back to your correct position that in order to counter this obvious ignorance of our authentic culture, we ought to teach our children from very early( primary schools) about their African heritage.”

    and that’s why i brought it to the fore…that is the THIRD country in as many months claiming they are bringing THEIR CULTURE, THEIR LANGUAGES to Barbados, no doubt everyone is targeting the schools….BUT….NOT ONE CABINET CLOWN is saying that Afrikan cultures and languages ARE MANDATORY IN MAJORITY BLACK SCHOOLS OR they are actively introducing them any school….they have had ample time in the last 50 years, in the last 4 years and STILL…they refuse..


  6. @ Mr. Skinner

    I support African culture being taught in schools 100%, but, disagree with the absurd notion that some sinister plan was developed by politicians to hide African culture from Barbadians.

    There are several aspects of our culture that can be easily identified as having originated in Africa.
    For example, I used to see men playing ‘Warri’ when I was a youngster.
    Did politicians enacted a law to prevent Bajans from playing that game?
    We have to blame parents for ignoring ‘Warri’ in preference for introducing their children to games such a ‘Ludo, Snakes & Ladders and Monopoly.’
    ‘Pitching, hide and seek, catcher, rounders,’ etc are now frowned upon since we moved into the ‘heights and terraces,’ while story telling by the elderly folk in the villages has been replaced with TV.

    How could someone say information on Africa was purposely hidden, especially when one, for example, considers the Barbados’ public library was established in 1847 and the internet went mainstream in 1993?

    But, according to some sources, there are 54 soveign countries in Africa, with over 3,000 indigenous tribes and 2,000 languages and dialects.
    French is the official language in 21 countries, while Arabic is spoken in 13. Then, you have indigenous languages such as Igbo, Hansa, Oromo, Zulu, Shona, Swahili, Yoruba and Somali.
    There are also tribes that still practice their traditional cultures.

    So, bearing these diverse cultures and languages in mind, the important question is, what aspect of African culture should be taught in schools?

    Or, are you going to determine our ancestry and teach that specific country’s languages, dialects and cultures?


  7. African Online

    With all due respect …. I have to ask you this question: have you ever interacted with an African before?

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    So what are yall….black face whites….lol


  9. If there was an African Cultural Centre in Barbados, people could attend if they wanted to broaden their knowledge and experience. Arts and crafts, music, singing, dancing, playing instruments, traditional storytelling are all enjoyable, creative and stimulating practical activities instead of dry academic text book studies. Most cosmopolitan cities have them.


  10. African Online

    And had you interacted with a Native African before you would have known that Western Africans dance with the lower part of their body ( like Bajans …Nigerians Ghanaians etc) and East Africans dance with the upper part of their body ( Ugandans Tanzanians etc).

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    Afrikans DANCE WITH THEIR WHOLE BODIES…

    there have been Afrikan dance groups on the island for decades, but like with everything else, something always go cockup…and it obviously is not meant to INCLUDE THE WHOLE BLACK POPULATION in learning their Afrikan heritage through dance, none of them have ever produced an Angelique Kidjo or anyone of that caliber and they have had DECADES to get it right and spread in the schools…….so there seems to be some kinda pretense in play something like their fake pan africanists….


  12. 555dubstreet

    There is no unilateralism with respect to the African cultural tapestry, linguistics and culinary etc…. and if I may add …. they are two- thousand different cultures and languages spoken on the African Continent, with the Bantu being the major spoken language on the Continent.


  13. @ Mr. Skinner

    The ‘Celtic Festival’ is a three (3) day event, which will be held this year from May 12-15.

    According to news reports, the festival’s organizers planned to “host workshops in the schools to expose children to the Celtic culture.”

    Is Waru suggesting that, rather than being held for a FEW HOURS, as they usually are,…. these workshops would become a PERMANENT fixture on the school’s curriculum?

    Waru is being ‘over ridiculous.’

    ‘Much ado about nothing.’


  14. “…….so there seems to be some kinda pretense in play something like their fake pan africanists….”

    your own African deep immersion has been an extra curricula hobby driven by your interest to learn,
    life lessons for personal growth go beyond schooling and are more about a journey than the destination

  15. William Slinner Avatar
    William Slinner

    @ Artax
    As I was very careful to point out: your position cannot be intellectually faulted.
    I honestly think that your view that moving to the “ heights and terraces” apparently destroyed or marginalized all those wonderful character building games of our youth is something that most of us are afraid to say.
    We have also lost the African oral tradition. We prefer to dump our senior citizens often family members at the QEH. We don’t listen to them anymore. Grandmothers are now in their late thirties and forties. We have therefore lost the skills of the African oral tradition.
    I am no authority on African/Black studies , but the same way we bring in highly paid consultants ($25000 per month) to tell us how to beg the IMF, we could bring in retired Afro American schlolars to assist Afro Bajan scholars , to have a proper approach to design a progressive program of African studies.
    @ WURA is only saying what progressive black citizens, such as Elombe Mottley, have been saying for over three decades.
    A man once told me , when I was very young that all Bajans , regardless of color, are really white. I never forgot that !
    Peace my Brother:

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    William…the damage is real…years ago, was speaking to this lady who worked in UK for 30 years, she was giving stories about her time there, this was a Black/Afrikan woman from Barbados, she says to me that the first time she ever saw an Afrikan was in UK and she had to stand up and watch him until he disappeared because she never saw one before, well you know i looked at that Slave like she was something under my shoe….

    here is this clown now asking me if i ever met an Afrikan, instead of asking if i ever met anyone from the continent….next he will tell me he is Afrikan American, but we are ALL AFRIKAN AMERICANS born and bred in the Americas, due to ancestry, heritage and the fact that OUR AFRIKAN ANCESTORS POPULATED the AMERICAS THOUSANDS OF YEAR AGO long, long before any invasions or KIDNAPPING from the continent.. ..christ…

    .i now see why Pacha has no patience for asses…


  17. Artax,

    One good idea she had was that we do DNA testing. I said then that it would be good to start the African Studies course with that. And then each child could research their own history and culture and make a presentation.

    Seems easy enough to me!


  18. Wouldn’t hurt for them to link up with people from the region either. Supervised of course.

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    “A man once told me , when I was very young that all Bajans , regardless of color, are really white. I never forgot that !”

    don’t ever.. Fanon’s Black Skin White Masks called it, they will never be anything else UNTIL AFRIKAN EDUCATION, CULTURES AND LANGUAGES ARE TAUGHT IN THE SCHOOLS…, we know the conscious ones…

    .the others can’t even bring themselves to call themselves Afrikans…

    UNTIL THEN….the more alien cultures and languages are introduced in the schools and society, the whiter they become and will remain, those who are promoting this know exactly what they are doing…….right now all they will end up teaching the children is how to effectively prostitute themselves for the tourism dollar…WHILE NEVER HAVING A CULTURE OR LANGUAGE OF THEIR OWN..

  20. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    @ WURA
    These are the realities of a people who are afraid of their history and the naked, raw violence of it. We are subconsciously afraid to accept and confront what was done to us.
    Just this morning, I was reading the Barbados Today and my heart was filled with joy , to see young Afro Bajan children enjoying their sports day.
    I also saw a picture which included a white Barbadian child, with three Afro Bajans. It is best that all four of them know of their culture be it Euro or Afro.
    I said to myself , we need to do right by all our children and to deny any of them to right to be taught of their culture is a mistake that must be corrected. The time to introduce such matters is in the nursery and primary schools.
    Without vision we will all perish.
    Keep up the good work.


  21. African Online
    I have been to quite a few of Ugandans and Ghanians parties during the years and I hadn’t observed what you have expressed regarding the African dance.

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    first….the DNA genetic test….get acquainted with WHO YOU REALLY ARE…most Black people in Barbados don’t know…reach out to all those cousins who will also reach out…

    then….take it from there…


  23. African Online

    East Africans placed more emphasis with respect to their dance on the upper part of their body, but I am not suggesting that they do not use the lower part of their body as West Africans do.

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    “It is best that all four of them know of their culture be it Euro or Afro.
    I said to myself , we need to do right by all our children and to deny any of them to right to be taught of their culture is a mistake that must be corrected. The time to introduce such matters is in the nursery and primary schools.”

    many minorities know WHAT they will find even if it’s only 1%-3%, less or more of Afrikan or other indigenous bloodlines in their ancestry…, many of them carry it..although they will hide, but can’t hide it from themselves, so i have no problem with minority children knowing what they carry..

    Afrikan heritage, cultures and languages should be second nature to the majority Black/Afrikan population in Barbados and across the region……it is a genocidal CRIME AGAINST BLACK PEOPLE especially in Barbados that it’s STILL not…

    ..don’t know how these animals from both sides of the divide can live with themselves for allowing this to continue in 2022..

    the only people on earth, who DO NOT KNOW THEIR HERITAGE, ANCESTRY ETC..

  25. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    @ Artax
    When I was doing house to house campaigning ( canvassing) back in 1991,I was mortified, at the number of senior citizens , who lived alone, and were seldom visited by their children and other family members.
    They would often let me enter their homes and I would see pictures mainly of Tom Adams and Errol Barrow. I soon figured out , that J may never get their vote. They were extremely gracious.
    I discussed this with some other candidates from the other two parties and we came to the conclusion , that in many cases, they just wanted the interaction. They were lonely and just wanted a little company.
    So, when I hear theses days , thirty years later ,of seniors being abandoned, J was far from surprise.
    The Ministry of Elder Affairs needs to be renamed: The Ministry of Elders Fears.
    Peace.


  26. African Online

    I don’t necessarily need a DNA test to determine my African heritage… I know my mother side of the family is of White, Black and East Indian, and my father side is of Black and Chinese ….my maternal grandmother was haft Chinese whom I used to visited as a kid….


  27. I am on two other blogs and I never see the disrespect, insults and put downs I see here. We agree to disagree civilly. Of course, there are rules that have to be followed or your post will go to file 19 and you may be banned.

  28. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    @ WURA
    The simple truth is that 98 % of our parliamentarians and politicians from both major political parties , have no core philosophy or ideology about anything. They are empty , useless vessels. The sooner we come to that conclusion, the better. Expect nothing remotely progressive from them. They don’t give a shit. Simple as that.


  29. Cultures are just ways of living in different places, when you go somewhere else your own culture are not the spectacles to wear when viewing the new culture looking for comparisons and differences, it is just their way of life. Young teenagers are not listening and dancing to African music they are just listening and dancing to music.


  30. Most, if not all of us agree that African culture should be taught in the schools and by parents.
    the dividing line is so thin that it is hardly observable and yet the difference is blown out of proportions.

    Some of us are willing to see our children exposed to different cultures.

    See this “Western Africans dance with the lower part of their body ( like Bajans …Nigerians Ghanaians etc) and East Africans dance with the upper part of their body ( Ugandans Tanzanians etc).’

    Unable to contribute further.


  31. If Bajans like to follow white people, then they can follow them when white people learn their African culture.
    Schools in Europe are already sending their children to Africa on school trips to camps.


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    “Expect nothing remotely progressive from them. ”

    exactly the same thing said on the show this morning….the whole of London heard it…

    ..they have only a few goals….promoting themselves, what they can get for themselves, how they can make themselves look good, even if they have to LIE, promoting tourism AND NOTHING ELSE….and keeping the black population as SHEEP, not knowing who they are, not able to get OUT FROM UNDER MINORITIES….trapped, under educated, rudderless.

    ..these things on two legs, cannot lead me anywhere. i take great offense..

    lWilliam….when they started ABANDONING and DISRESPECTING THEIR ELDERLY….calling themselves world-class without anything to show, claiming this and that degree but families are adrift…….that was the final disconnect to any heritage….look at where it has gotten them…no matter what has happened or is still happening on the continent…that is one of the things they try really hard to keep together, because they KNOW once that is gone…all connection is lost..

    “These are the realities of a people who are afraid of their history and the naked, raw violence of it.”

    but they are all up in other people’s history, cultures etc AND HAVE NO CLUE WHERE THOSE CAME FROM…how it impacts them NEGATIVELY EVERY DAY….as long as they get to parade like they are important…nuisances..


  33. ” Sona Jobarteh performed in Weimar on invitation of the University of Music FRANZ LISZT Weimar and its UNESCO Chair of Transcultural Music Studies (TMS). The TMS Chair regularly invites artists to bring the musicology students into contact with various musical cultures for inspiration and exchange. For further information visit https://www.hfm-weimar.de/tms.

    Sona Jobarteh is the first female Kora virtuoso to come from a west African Griot family. The Kora is one of the most important instruments belonging to the Manding peoples of West Africa (Gambia, Senegal, Mali, Guinea and Guinea-Bissau). It belongs exclusively to griot families, and usually only men who are born into these families have the right to take up the instrument professionally. Sona Jobarteh combines various genres of African Music and western musical elements. “

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    “If Bajans like to follow white people, then they can follow them when white people learn their African culture.
    Schools in Europe are already sending their children to Africa on school trips to camps.”

    tell them…there are whites and others more Afrikan than them, know much more than any of those black faces …..who ache to be white… ”

    exposure to DIFFERENT CULTURES IS ESSENTIAL…as long as you know YOURS first..

    “Most, if not all of us agree that African culture should be taught in the schools and by parents.”

    most of the parents have to be TAUGHT FIRST…they don’t know the first thing about Afrikan ancestry, heritage, culture etc so are unable to teach their children and grandchildren anything about the continent….it was banned for centuries, then decades after the black faces went into the parliaments in the 1950s and started pretending that they are white…that is when the new age disenfranchisement of Black people started all over again..with new legislation to de-Africanize them…..Afrikan culture was CRIMINALIZED, still on some islands……..and here we are from the fallout, even after those anti-Afrikan laws were relaxed maybe in the late 90s early 2000s, Barbados being one, the heritage is still largely frowned upon by Black people…when you are taught to hate yourself and it’s beaten into your psyche…that’s a very long road to recovery from..

    couple years ago when i wore my head dress…..and it was not for anything other than to protect the volumes of hair i have and keep my head cool…it was frowned upon by Black people, but since then, lately i notice a change, so some are coming around, it will be a long hard road, because of the self-hatred instilled in Black minds….so you can appreciate why i don’t think Celtic culture is nearly as important as Afrikan culture given the circumstances..

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    Theo…i have said it on here repeatedly, don’t know how many other ways to tell them…..but…OUR AFRIKAN ANCESTORS ARE WORSHIPPED in certain areas of Europe…WORSHIPPED still, there are statutes of them….the vatican stole a lot of what should be in our possession belonging to our ancestors, there is even a body of at least one of them there….they dig them up every day in fake egypt…the real name is KEMET…

    these clowns don’t want to hear about our ancestors who are revered by whites still…steuppssss..all they can do is marinate themselves in self-hate and don’t move away from it..

    .then the idiots got talk for me…i only care about them not POISONING the minds of another generation with their evil mess……we have already lost quite a few in the last two and are losing more daily…


  36. @WS
    I will use some part of your earlier blog to have a conversation with you.
    I know that I am putting words in your mouth, but I will try my best not to misrepresent your position. I welcome any response/explanation that you provide. I hope that you agree that we are not that far apart.

    An fictitious interview of WS
    TheO: Do we have our own culture? Could our culture be considered as African culture that evolved over time?
    S2: That being said, the truth remains that it is ironic that we seldom see the promotion of authentic African culture on our island . We tend to restrict it to dancing and so on and this often degenerated into wukking up and almost pornographic vulgarity, that really may be our culture but has nothing to do with Africa.

    TheO: You are saying we have our own culture which is separate from African culture and we may be ignorant of African culture
    S2: In other words while other cultures within our community tend to produce elements of their culture, we often display that we are not that knowledgeable about our African culture.

    TheO: So how do we gain l\knowledge of our African culture
    S2: This then, in my humble opinion, brings us back to your correct position that in order to counter this obvious ignorance of our authentic culture, we ought to teach our children from very early( primary schools) about their African heritage.
    TheO: Yes: But I think we need also to have this education springing from families and organizations. We cannot just rely on the schools..

    S2: Quite frankly, regardless of what is said, in a country with a population that is 95% African, we have determined that the teaching of African culture/history in our schools , is not that important.
    So therefore,if minority groups and expatriates in the country seek to promote their culture, we cannot honestly blame them.
    It is our fault that we choose to be underlings in our own country.
    Also, the point that our children should not be deprived of being exposed to other cultures is progressive. The best way to defeat and conquer your enemy is to understand his culture.
    TheO: But we see Mia pivoting to Africa and some who loves and proclaim that African language and culture should be taught in our school will then criticize her every move towards Africa.

    Theo: In reality we are not that far apart.

    WS: In all intellectually seriousness, a strong argument can be made that most of us seem more comfortable with the Eurocentric/ white culture.
    I often observe how we gather inQueens Park, to promote “ stand pipe “ brawls and obnoxious portrayal of “ lower class “ people “ as our culture/ art.
    TheO: I am uncomfortable here. It would appear to me that you are saying, that what you see is not who we are. It is not our culture. It appears that your mirror image and the actual behavior of our people are in conflict. You would prefer to reject what is real.

    WS: I brought water from a standpipe for seventeen straight years and I never saw that behavior. I came up in a village with poor people and their were not loud and ignorant/ aggressive.
    TheO: How long ago was that? People change; so too does culture. The glorious/wonderful years are long gone and live only in your memory.

    WS: I say no more for now.
    TheO: Let me say a little more. At times, I think there is a lot of truth in what Waru says. But at times she is a blunt hammer just looking for nails. The smallest crack is made to appear like a gigantic chasm. Personally, I never come here with the idea that I am more African or less African than anyone. But I have no illusions about my origin.


  37. @Wura
    I added in a line that I should have edited out.

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    de pedantic Dribbler

    @Skinner, I direct this at you as you more seriously and respectfully address the matter here discussed: Why has @Artax’s FUNDAMENTALLY important points at 9:47AM been glossed over!???

    This continuous harangue is often just lots of noisy rhetoric.

    As u note so well we have been sensitized to Afro-centric realities most notably since Elombe’s return to the island back in 7os and obviously and clearly even beyond that the cohorts of Bajan students who studied in England starting in the 50’s and befriended the Africans who like them evolved to be transformational leaders back in their homelands ABSOLUTELY knew, understood and embraced their African culture!

    As Artax also noted I believe it is ridiculous to suggest that the base culture or rather traditions of our African ancestors were not taught to us over the years. However, we cannot divorce the realities of how our Bajan society evolved as contrasted for example with our brethren in Jamaica whose foreparents rebelled into the hills; or for that matter our brethren in Haiti who grandly broke that yoke of slavery eons before any of the other islands!

    To that point @Artax brings into sharp focus what is this ‘CULTURE’ really … but let’s not get lost in Islam, West or East African traditions, nor Xosha or Yoruba nor the myriad other cultural differences. The bottom line is did most of us identify as Black women and men who embraced the cutural awarewness that we are princesses and princes of our own destiny and NOT beholden to colonizers and slave traders!

    Definitely THAT cultural awareness was fully accepted by the Barrows, Burnhams et al … by the Elombes and Stokelys et al and by you and @Vincent and many others here like a GP (despite his current ideology frame) … It was embraced by me and many of my neigborhood brethren who were at the Modern, Kolig, QC and all over.

    Some of it we got from our proud parents, some from teachers and much from attending a Black doctor, seeing a Black police officer and proudly seeing a Black PM!

    The arguments and debates are understood but are yet really overwrought… the struggle is endless and continues with renewed vigor in modern times but is is NOT new, was always FORTHRIGHT and should not be marginalized as some here do incessantly and ridiculously!

    Lata.


  39. Indeed, they were not able to beat ALL of the Africanness out of us. Some of it survived even if many do not recognise it as such.

    I think though that we do need to recognise it as such and reconnect with its origins. I believe that an accelerated programme is absolutely necessary.

    We are the ONLY people whose connection was broken in this way. And as much as some may deny it, it is evident in the way many wish for whiteness and all things white, that it needs to be corrected. I have seen comments where white racists tell black people that they are the only ones who have added nothing of value to the world.

    And some blacks persons replied with tales of dustpan inventions.

    Fancy that! We are reduced to dustpans!


  40. RE here like a GP (despite his current ideology frame)
    WHAT IS MY IDIEOLOGY FRAME SIR? PAST OR PRESENT…ANCIENT OR MODERN
    WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT ME SIR?

    WILLIAM
    RE So, when I hear theses days , thirty years later ,of seniors being abandoned, J was far from surprise.
    AROUND THE TIME OF WHICH YOU SPEAK I SAID TO THE ONE OF THE SMOH’S THAT SINCE OUR POSTMEN TENDED TO VISIT ALMOST EVERY HOME ON THIER ROUTE DAILY, THAT WE SHOULD GIVE THEM SOME BASIC TRAINING SO THAT IN ADDITION TO DELIVERING THE POSTS , THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THE LONELY ELDERLY AND THOSE AT HEALTH RISKS, SO THAT THEY COULD REPORT SUCH TO RELEVANT AGENCIES WITH A VIEW TO BOTH EARLY DETECTION AND MANAGEMENT OF ILLNESSES.

    I WAS LAUGHED TO SCORN……..JUST AS IS DONE HERE ON BU.

    ALL THAT WAS NEEDED WAS A LITTLE TRAINING AND A LITTLE EXTRA PAY — WHICH WOULD BE FAR LESS THAN TRETING FULL BLOWN DISEASE.

    I OBSERVED THE SAME THINGS YOU DID WHEN I HAD TO ENTER HOMES WHILE ACTING AS PMO.

    THE BIBLICAL AXIOM THAT WHERE THERE IS NO VISION (OR WHEN VISION IS NOT HEEDED ) THE PEOPLE PERISH IS SOUND DOCTRINE THAT CAN NOT BE REFUTED

    ARTAX
    I understand years ago Latin was taught in schools,
    INDEED IT WAS…..DID A LOT FOR MY VOCABULARY IN ENGLISH
    IT WAS ONE OF MY FAVOURITE SUBJECTS AND I CERTAINLY ENJOINED IT

    MANY SCHOOL CHILDREN IN THOSE DAYS SANG THIS DITTY
    Latin is a very hard subject, as hard as hard as could be
    It killed the ancient Romans, and now its killing me.

    I was in a Bible Reading recently, and a brother of that vintage in seeking to explain the concept of INTERCESSION, OPINED THAT THE WORD WAS DERIVED FROM THE TWO LATIN WORDS “INTER” =between & “CADEO”, TO FALL.
    He then added to my delight that they are actually two CADEOS— one meaning to fall, and the other to kill.

    This might explain passages of the OT where we read that some one “fell upon some one else that he died.”

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    “But we see Mia pivoting to Africa and some who loves and proclaim that African language and culture should be taught in our school will then criticize her every move towards Africa.”

    if the intentions were HONORABLE from day one and not what was found hidden, there would have been absolutely no criticism…i never go out of my way to investigate what is helpful to our people unless i found bad intent……but that is NEVER THE INTENTION of those seeking to promote others above their own people, so it would make them look good…sellouts…..

    “@Wura
    I added in a line that I should have edited out.”

    you see what is thrown at me daily and i don’t flinch…it’s when i start pelting back, then there is a problem with those who got bad agendas…….rest easy Theo..

    for a people who had their CULTURE, LANGUAGE, HERITAGE, ANCESTRY CRIMINALIZED for 400-500 AFTER THE2500 YEARS that most know nothing about…, STOLEN, HIDDEN and all manner of crimes, now claim a standard of education above all others in similar situations….Barbados should be much further along in REINTRODUCING AFRIKANNESS/CULTURE…instead of the promotion of ONLY WHITENESS…which yall should be expert in that by now…but…

    you do know am a student, yes, not as focused as i should be, have neglected certain things lately, it takes many decades to REAFRIKANIZE…any scholar or professor will tell you that, Pacha tries, but his time is wasted….there are those 50 years later STILL REAFRIKANIZING and these are the creme de la creme

    …i know a lot more than the average Caribbean person and there are some a whole lot more knowledgeable than i am, saw one on FB recently saying straight up that Afrika is his home, could not get him to say that when we were teenagers…..so…we are mostly still learning about what is rightfully ours..

    .wish some would research before putting their nonsense opinions out there..saying ya learned something from Elombe means nothing…there are REAL SCHOLARS who can guide us, many reside on the continent…many reside in the diaspora…and speak various AFRIKAN LANGUAGES am still at Yoruba and Kiswahili…


  42. Each child is born African and raised Bajan.

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    there are those 50 years later STILL REAFRIKANIZING and these are the creme de la creme…which means that reafrikanization is for the NEXT and future generations to MASTER…the stage is set…..

    for a people who had their CULTURE, LANGUAGE, HERITAGE, ANCESTRY CRIMINALIZED for 400-500 AFTER THE PREVIOUS 2500 YEARS anti-Afrikan criminality… that most know nothing about


  44. Move your body
    Dance in lower half or upper half of the body
    or from centre the pelvis and sexual organs


  45. Oh dear! Here we go again! Many people have been ridiculed for good ideas. Some of us have been labelled “mad”. It hurts for a while and then we move on.

    As I recall, your postman idea was not ridiculed on BU.


  46. Who would teach the children their African Roots and Culture
    It must be the preaching of the Rastaman teaching
    or Africans as every African is a Rasta


  47. William Skinner May 14, 2022 10:45 AM

    A few years ago a colleague and I had reason to visit an elderly gentleman who was living in the Bay Land with his wife at the time.
    After identifying ourselves and telling him the purpose of our visit, he invited us inside. After our discussion, he offered us some refreshments and proceeded to engage us in a cordial discussion about his career at the ‘Light & Power’ and how he and his wife were coping post-retirement.
    It was a sad situation where this polite, elderly couple were lonely and just needed other people to talk to.

    I also had to visit another elderly gentleman pertaining to a certain issue, after which he went on to reminisce about his days as a police officer and that his official number was one (1). In other words, he was Police Constable (PC) 1.

    I could provide you and the forum with several more examples.

    But, the important point is, we are developing into more and more of a society in which younger people have become impatient, intolerant and uncaring, especially toward our senior citizens….. whether they are their parents, grandparents, relatives, acquaintances or strangers.

    These heartless people abandon their elderly parents in their homes or at the QEH and senior citizens’ homes….. only to return after they die, to seize their money and property.

    However, there are situations where some people do not have an understanding of the difficulties associated with the aging process or the patience to cope with them.
    Hence, the easiest solution would be to ‘put their parents in a home’ or ‘leave them at the hospital.’

    My great grandmother, great grandfather and grandmother were not abandoned. They took care of themselves up until the time they died, with assistance from my mother and siblings.

    My mother took care of me when I was a child and worked hard to make sure I attended school. And, although I am an adult, she has never refused to offer help when I’m in need.

    I WILL NEVER ABANDON my mother.


  48. re As I recall, your postman idea was not ridiculed on BU.

    WHY SHOULD IT
    IT WAS MADE TO THE SMOH WHO AFTER SCOFFING TOOK IT TO THE MINISTER OF HEALTH WHO THEN RELATED IT TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH NURSES AS IF IT WAS HIS OWN IDEA
    THE PUBLIC HEALTH NURSES TOLD ME WHEN SHE CAME FOR MENTORSHIP FOR HER MPH

    BU USED TO BE GOOD AT THE BEGINNING
    NOW WE HAVE FEMALE MORONS TRYING TO TEACH ME MEDICINE OR PROVE THAT I AM A LIAR OR MY ORIGINS FROM THE DOMINICAN PLANTOCRACY ETC ETC ETC
    HOW YOU FOLK GIVE ME MIRTH AND FODDER TO ROCK AND MOCK


  49. As I recall, your postman idea was not ridiculed on BU.

    WHY SHOULD IT?
    HOW COULD IT?
    IT WAS BRILLIANT! WASNT IT?
    IT IS SAD BUT ONE OF THE FACTS OF LIFE IS THAT WE LIVE IN A WORLD WITH MANY DUMMIES AROUND US, MANY OF WHOM THINK THAT THEY ARE SO VERY SMART……..BUT ARE JUST REALLY CANTANKEROUS. FORMER. PATIENTS OF MY GOOD FRIEND AND TEACHER DR MAHY.
    HILARIOUS

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