Submitted by Terence M. Blackett
Leptogenesis: The Mythological Confluence Of Pagan Ritualized Churchianity, Judaic Rabbinization & Apocryphal & Midrashic Islam Aligned Into A Clash Of Religious Mythologies
“If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him…” ~ Voltaire
Let me state at the outset of this discourse that I am not a Durkheimian Functionalist, either at the core or at the periphery. The understanding that “the totality of beliefs and sentiments common to the average members of a society forms a determinate system with a life of its own. It can be termed the collective or creative consciousness” (Durkheim – The Division of labour [1893]) posits that modern society is more than the sums of its parts, and although religion is at the heart of this narrative – each part of the organism, we call society, must harmonize as a composite whole to avoid the kind of crises we are seeing in the 21st century, which is at the heart of the global Papal-Interfaith-Movement. A mission doomed to failure and rightly so!
To give luminescence to this ancient quest, a cursory glance at Kathleen Herbert’s work, is this posited ideas narrative that men are still frantically looking for the “Lost ‘gods’ of the Anglo-Saxons” which parenthetically includes the modern-day English “neo-sub-mariners” who according to Samuel Taylor Coleridge (1797–1798) in his eclectic poem: “Rime of the Ancient Mariner” paints a dystopian picture of a ship manned by the pathetic souls of dead men, led by a mythical albatross. Coleridge’s penchant for melodramatization cites:
Ah! Well a-day! What evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the Albatross
About my neck was hung. (Lines 139 – 142)
Four times fifty living men,
(And I heard nor sigh nor groan)
With heavy thump, a lifeless lump,
They dropped down one by one.
The souls did from their bodies fly,—
They fled to bliss or woe!
And every soul, it passed me by,
Like the whizz of my cross-bow! (Lines 216 – 223)
Today, postmodern reLIEgion is still an “Albatross” around the necks of multi-millions, if not billions, whose sincere endeavours seek the discovery of “TRUTH”, yet like Saul of Tarsus on the road to Damascus, find themselves “SINCERELY WRONG”, yet well-intentioned in their pursuits of faith-based religiosity. What is so disdainful is that their supposed faith does not in any way correlate with their works, words or so-called wisdom. They argue vehemently over a storm in a teacup and can ever hardly agree to disagree on pretty much anything, without salacious human venom; mindless epithets and braggadocious drivel! Scripture rightly says: “From such turn away.”
Many may be kerfuffle by the use of the word ‘Leptogenesis’. To use this term as a point of reference in regard to this particular discourse, must be understood within the contextual ambit of how the Early Church Fathers understood this terminology – although many of these so-called illustrious men were nothing more than wolves in sheep’s clothing and sell-outs to the cause of righteousness and to cite any of them must be taken with a serious sprinkling of Celtic sea salt.
In the realm of physical cosmology, Leptogenesis is the generic term used for ‘hypothetical physical processes’ that produced an asymmetry between leptons and antileptons in the very early universe, resulting in the present-day dominance of leptons over antileptons. However, in TOV Rose’s seminal work as an author, speaker & television producer, cited in his seminal work – “The Book of Jubilees: The Little Genesis”: “(Leptogenesis), is an ancient Jewish religious work of 50 chapters, considered canonical by the Ethiopian Orthodox Church as well as Beta Israel (Ethiopian Jews), where it is known as the ‘Book of Division’ (Ge’ez: Mets’hafe Kufale). Jubilees are considered one of the pseudepigrapha by Protestant, Roman Catholic, and Eastern Orthodox Churches…”
“It was well known to Early Christians, as evidenced by the writings of Epiphanius, Justin Martyr, Origen, Diodorus of Tarsus, Isidore of Alexandria, Isidore of Seville, Eutychius of Alexandria, John Malalas, George Syncellus, and George Kedrenos. The text was also utilized by the Essenes community that originally collected the Dead Sea Scrolls. No complete Hebrew, Greek or Latin version is known to have survived…”
“The Book of Jubilees claims to present “the history of the division of the days of the Law, of the events of the years, the year-weeks, and the jubilees of the world” as revealed to Moses (in addition to the Torah or “Instruction”) by Angels while he was on Mount Sinai for forty days and forty nights. The chronology given in Jubilees is based on multiples of seven; the jubilees are periods of 49 years, seven “year-weeks”, into which all of time has been divided…”
The Roman Catholic Church has had a lurid fascination with “Jubilees” but moreover, when there is a “Jubilee of Jubilees” and in this ‘supposedly’ holy weekend sees the confluence of Easter; Passover & Ramadan collide as this 33-year-old phenomenon landed upon us in this month of April 2022. We have seen on the Temple Mount clashes between Jews & Muslims where over 150 people were injured and 100’s arrested, with actually violence being perpetrated in the very mosque on the mount. These 3 Abrahamic reLIEgions (though sons of Sarah, Hagar & Keturah) – wives of the Patriarch and brothers to each other, remain in gratuitous battle-like, violent contestation for over the last 3 millennia (with no end in sight).
The confluence of pagan churchianity and its ritualization of this mythological time called Easter, Judaic rabbinization & apocryphal & midrashic Islam – all have their Leptogenesis in the symbolic origins of sun and moon worship (adoration of the starry host of heaven) that have displayed themselves in a myriad of forms since post-diluvian times – namely during the inception of the tower of Babel.
Although we think we understand the past primordial ages – in our dauntingly corrupt, postmodern age, sociological questions remain as to how religious beliefs and other factors relate to other conditions such as race, age, gender and, education. Primarily, is this notion of how religion affects social change and the effects it has on political and/or educational institutions?
Durkheim in his religious treatise looked at suicide rates amongst Protestants & Catholics. Max Weber & Karl Marx looked at religious orthodoxy as a unique role in social institutions such as politics & the economy. So while Durkheim & Weber looked at the cohesive part religion plays in a given society – Marx was more scathing in his outlook, focusing on the conflict and oppression that religion plays, as it was used as a tool for class oppression and social control that promoted stratification – (i.e.) supporting a certain hierarchy of persons to the detriment and subordination of other humans to a divine form of authority. (cf. Giddens, Anthony [1991] Introduction To Sociology. NY. W.W.Norton & Co.)
In a NYT piece entitled: “A Bleak Outlook Is Seen for Religion” expanded on in BBC Future follow-up piece aptly titled – “Tomorrow’s God: What is the future of religion?” are these words: “Sociologists argued that the march of science was leading to the “disenchantment” of society: supernatural answers to the big questions were no longer felt to be needed. Communist states like Soviet Russia and China adopted atheism as state policy and frowned on even private religious expression. In 1968, the eminent sociologist Peter Berger told the New York Times that by “the 21st Century, religious believers are likely to be found only in small sects, huddled together to resist a worldwide secular culture”… Further, “now that we’re actually in the 21st Century, Berger’s view remains an article of faith for many secularists – although Berger himself recanted in the 1990s.”
Clearly, the only thing religion hold together is the ‘house of cards’ and ‘Interfaith Dialogue’ as a medium for strengthening the religious bulwarks is not working even at the highest echelon levels of mainstream religion. The University of Cambridge held a symposium in 2011 where Jews, Christians & Muslims met around the Scriptures as a form of interfaith practice for the 21st Century but 11 years on, what is the current state of play?
The simple answer is “Division”! Why? Most want to be comforted by a “LIE”!
Let’s take a simple example from the ‘Abstract’ without leaning heavily on the ‘Full-Text’ of a piece published in 2019 entitled: Muhammad, the Jews, and the composition of the Qur’an: Sacred History & Counter-History, by the Hebrew Union College-Jewish Institute of Religion which states categorically: “According to Islamic religious teachings, some Jews confirmed the authenticity of Muhammad’s prophethood and joined him. Most Jews, however, are condemned for both rejecting the Prophet and failing to live up to their own religious imperatives. Medieval polemics tended to be harsh and belligerent, but while Muslims and Christians produced polemics under the protection and encouragement of their own religious and political authorities, Jews lived everywhere as minority communities and therefore lacked such protection. In order to maintain their own sense of dignity Jews polemicized as well, but they had to be subtle in argument. One form of polemic produced by Jews and other subalterns is “counter-history,” which retells well-known narratives in a manner that questions or undermines their message. One such counter-history is an ancient Jewish re-telling of the traditional Muslim narrative of divine revelation.
In an earlier citation, by Professor Walter Veith, he lay down a serious unimpeachable argument that Islam & the Rabbinization of Judaism will always be in competition, and although they may both be bent out of all shape and proportion, over the validity of Muhammad’s cave revelations, and the fact that Quranic revisions of the Torah may never be divine light – at the heart of the issue is that solitary word: “INSPIRATION”!
Judaism & Christianity on the other hand, remain at a fork in the road, when it comes to the issue of the historical “YESHUA” AKA “JESUS” (the Incarnation of the Divine Son of God) – the 2nd Person of the Godhead (the Eternal Majesty & Mystery of the “Glorious TRINITY”). The ‘deep differences’ between these 2 religions cannot be easily abridged, given the fact that most Jews will never accept even the historical Jesus, far less worship Him as Messias. Moreover, Rabbinic traditions is no different today as it was when Christ walked the earth almost 2000 years ago, doing all manner of great and mighty works, but was railed on as a deceiver (to the point of being called a son of the Devil)!
There are voices however that believe that there can be convergence between religions beyond inter-faith dialogue – where harmony and even echoes exist within the writings of religious script. These voices are few and far between and with Passover, Easter, and Ramadan falling so synchronistically close – all the goodwill in the world will not be able to negate the gulf that exist between them.
In conclusion, the historical reverberations over the issue as to when to “keep The Passover became known as the Quartodeciman Controversy”. Quartodeciman is a Latin word meaning “14th.” It states that “in the New Testament, we learn that Jesus kept the Passover on the 14th of Nissan. He taught the disciples to remember His suffering and death on this day. This instruction was followed by the early disciples (see Acts 20:6, I Cor. 5:6-8, I Cor. 11:17-32 for some examples). Remembering the death of Jesus on Passover was of major importance to early Christians. In the mid-second century, a movement started out of Rome to stop practicing Passover; they also tried to establish a new celebration. Believe it or not, this subject had an impact on the weekly Sabbath!”
“The Quartodeciman Controversy was part of the movement by the Church of Rome to abandon any practices considered ‘Jewish.’ Their actions were contrary to those taught by the first Apostles. Moreover, this controversy was eventually used to push the idea of weekly fasting on Friday and Sunday gatherings.”
“The controversy concerning Passover would last for centuries into the future and be discussed at church councils such as Nicaea (325), Antioch (341), Laodicea (364), and Constantinople (381). The groups who persisted in the observance of Passover were deemed heretical because they did not comply with the Roman Catholic Church. Eventually, Roman Law would codify penalties against those who practiced Passover like Jesus (see CT: 16.5.9 [382] and CJ: 1.5.5 [428]). In fact, all groups deemed heretical had severe laws enacted against them (see The Theodosian Code, Book 16, Title 5 for over 60 laws against groups deemed heretical).”
Daniel (the prophet), in chapter 7 verse 25, warned that the “Little Horn” power (which is the Roman Catholic Vicegerency (POPERY) would seek to change “TIMES” & “LAWS” and from 538 AD until today, that has been its ethos and motto. This nefarious pagan institution has supplanted the Apostolic Doctrine for “RITUALIZATION” & Leptogenesis on a Biblical scale as the world grinds precariously on its axis. Now all that’s left is a “Shattered Paradise” & “The Undead Intellect” from which “The Creator God” hope to salvage a “Remnant”…
Semper Fidelis
Terrance
We hold fundamentally differing views. But as one steeped in eurocentric scholarship at least there is an internal logic as limiting as it may be. Notwithstanding, you should expect the regular cacophony of unread brassbowls to contend.
Gregory Issacs Versus Sugar Minott Sounds Clash in Bu Dance Session
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dWQagtRU-E&list=PLo5KN6HwJRSkNbJ9XgxYeIQUkOVO5F3YI
“They argue vehemently over a storm in a teacup and can ever hardly agree to disagree on pretty much anything, without salacious human venom; mindless epithets and braggadocious drivel! Scripture rightly says: “From such turn away.””
The ‘They’ is the Bu posse summarised in a nutshell
who are the lost tribe of damaged Bajan African English breed of sheep
with me myself and I as the facilitator for pure niceness and spirit of Jah
Is Barbados still known as “Little England”
aka most deluded land in history of Earth
they are not English and never will be
despite their English bloodlines culture
“Notwithstanding, you should expect the regular cacophony of unread brassbowls to contend.”
Brassbowl signalling inability to join the contention.
Easter Monday Bu Challenge
Someone on Bu who is a good respected author on Bu should take up the next challenge on Bu to write the history of Barbados Underground the working title is called “History of Bu” and is still a work in progress. Bajan scholars are disqualified.
@TB
You will attract the ire of religious zealots if you are not careful.
Those who are not “unread” know the barrel of deceit this faux history is unveiling itself as, after 3,000 years….now compounded and even more exposed by the Canterbury Clown…who sees sending refugees from UK to Rwanda as “against his fake god’s nature” or some such shit…
.but can’t say the same about the thousands of years of enslavement/thefts of Afrikans or the more recent 500-year criminality against the earth’s original Afrikan people BY HIS ILK…
Pacha….the well read can never take any of them seriously…..only the slaves can find any of it appealing…collapse is imminent and IRREVERSIBLE.
Steuspe
Reading books is a red herring regarding knowledge wisdom and understanding
Never trust a book it will make you stupid
“He who has ears to hear, let him hear”
“He who has eyes let him see”
The awakening will be VERY RUDE…and well deserved.
who put themselves in the position they are now in….dah iz dem problem…
Willy Wonka
@ David
How you have managed to attract the attention of not one, but multiple genuine intellectuals such as Pacha and Terence CANNOT be dismissed as happenstance.
As you know, Bushie is just an adopted brass bowl who has been HANDED blessings (in ways yet to be even even fully appreciated by the bushman).This includes a special connection to The Godfather and access to info…. 🙂 – just a lucky BB.
But these fellows have, using their intellect and common sense, been able to discern levels of understanding that defies current reality.
Indeed, Pacha’s only serious Achilles heel has been in allowing his emotional reaction to the global religious idiocy that has been so well articulated above by Terence to drive him to illogical conclusions about God and the Bible.
Terence, on the other hand, appears to think that wisdom can be intellectualized with academic research and references. It CANNOT.
Two great scholars, but like Achilles, both with areas of vulnerabilities.
In SIMPLE terms, what is currently at play is the final stages of a SPIRITUAL battle between right & wrong; Love & hate; good & evil.
The actual OBJECTIVE of the whole exercise has been to CREATE a crop of beings who have been able to demonstrate the capacity to CHOOSE good over evil, love over hate and right over wrong. Bushie refers to such outputs as ‘Diamonds’.
To create diamonds from deadwood (or brass bowls) requires extensive heat, pressure and time… The process therefore NEEDS TO HAVE HEAT, PRESSURE AND STRESS.
But the final diamond product is WELL WORTH the stress and efforts…
Efforts therefore to ‘put this shiite world right’ or to eliminate global brass bowlery (the heat and pressures being applied in diamond creation) are seriously misguided.
The REAL challenge is to understand life’s MISSION, and to respond appropriately to the heat and pressures by becoming a Diamond…..
@Bush Tea
As you know BU has been a haven from inception for the intelligent and the ignorant. A reflection of the global society. TB’s piece like the video Pacha posted of Dr. Cornel West is steeped with flowery language but encapsulates what many ordinary commenters have also posted to the blog over the years. The human condition being what it is from time immemorial will never coalesce around a common objective. The zealots and those willing to parley will always ensure conflict is alive and well. The human condition, don’t forget.
Haile Selassie- King of Kings
we talk about connecting to the Universe—but what exactly does that mean? What is this “Universe” we keep talking about? A simple explanation of the Universe is this: The Universe is everything that we can experience through our five physical senses (seeing, hearing, touching, smelling, and tasting), and everything that we cannot physically experience, the spiritual and metaphysical aspects of life. The Universe is the source from which we come, where we exist now, and to which we will eventually return.
simplicity is the key to connecting deeply with the Universe begin every qigong practice by saying the password
You do not categorize or have your commenters categorized everywhere as IGNORANT without educating them…or at least try…
Bu is like listening to #1 old men and #2 old women
(#2 never has anything positive to say)
#52 the champion DJ with a hit tune that says “I’ll never grow old”
Never Grow Old
Toots & The Maytals feat. Terry Hall, The Skatalites and U-Roy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hz-jBIdkME
Bushie
Well, prove that a single plank of your acili is true, based in reality, can be independently verified, actually happened. Let’s leave out that pesky ingredient called faith. For it has always been irrational to expect the disbeliever to come to the table prepared to believe in foolishness. Has this not been the ultimate propaganda project.
David
The canard by you that the level of discussions between West and Hedges can be found or is equal to that seen here also requires a religious faith based approach.. We know that we exist at a time where irrational equalizations are common. But be jesus christ, if you think anything which happens here by a motley bunch of the unread equates to the scholarship of West and Hedges, dream on.
Your retort is expected Pacha, academicians are known to wear degrees of arrogance well.
It is very easy to confuse Christianity with Catholicism. I am just publishing a book ‘Beyond Satinism’ and have three more as works in progress. Few understand just how evil the Catholic Church has been for the last 2000 years, now you can read the historical truth.
RE Daniel (the prophet), in chapter 7 verse 25, warned that the “Little Horn” power (which is the Roman Catholic Vicegerency (POPERY) would seek to change “TIMES” & “LAWS” and from 538 AD until today, that has been its ethos and motto. This nefarious pagan institution has supplanted the Apostolic Doctrine for “RITUALIZATION” & Leptogenesis on a Biblical scale as the world grinds precariously on its axis. Now all that’s left is a “Shattered Paradise” & “The Undead Intellect” from which “The Creator God” hope to salvage a “Remnant”…
LET US HAVE the regular cacophony of unread brassbowls WHO contend.
LET US HAVE SOME FUN FELLAS
BUT NO SERIOUS THEOLOGIAN REALLY BELIEVES THAT the “Little Horn” IN EITHER DANIEL 7 OR DANIEL 8 IS the Roman Catholic Vicegerency (POPERY)
THE POPE IS A MERE PEEP SQUEAK IN THE COURSE OF THINGS IN THE IMMINENT ESCHATON
AT MOST HE IS A LIKKLE ANTIOCHUS EPIPHANES
BEFORE WE STATE THAT THERE ARE TWO LITTLE HORNS IN THE BOOK OF DANIEL AND MY OPINIONS FROM MY STUDIES IN REVELATION 7 LETS HEAR THE OPINIONS OF SOME OF THE REVERRED AND HIGHLY RESPECTED THEOLOGIANS
NOW NONE OF THESE GUYS ARE BAJANS OR INTELLECTUALS ……..CAUSE YOU CANT POSSIBLY BE A BELIEVER IN THE BIBLE AND BE AN INTELLECTUAL
ALSO ONLY FOLK WITH AFRICAN ANCESTORS HAVE INTELLECT
Daniel 7:25 SAYS ‘He will speak out against the Most High and wear down the saints of the Highest One, and he will intend to make alterations in times and in law; and they will be given into his hand for a time, times, and half a time.
Will speak: Da 7:8,20 11:36,37 Isa 37:23 2Th 2:4 Rev 13:5,6,11
Wear down: Rev 6:9,10 11:7-10 13:7-10 14:12 16:6 17:6 18:24
Intend: Da 2:21 11:31,36, 37, 38 12:11 2Th 2:4 1Ti 4:1, 2, 3 Rev 13:15, 16, 17
time: Da 4:25,32 12:7,11,12 Rev 11:2,3 12:6,14 13:5,7
He will speak out against the Most High (compare Da 7:8-note , Da 7:20-note , Da 11:36,37-note) – Somewhat paradoxically, the LITTLE Horn (the Antichrist 1Jn 2:18, 22-note, 1Jn 4:3-note) is characterized by “BIG”, boastful, blasphemous words (cp 2Th 2:4, Rev 13:5-note, Rev 13:6-note). Most High corresponds to the Hebrew title for God of El Elyon (Most High God – Sovereign Over All).
Wear down (Aramaic – bela) – The Septuagint (LXX) translates the Aramaic with the Greek word katatribo which it literally to rub down or away and hence wear out and exhaust. The Theodotion version of the Greek rendering of Da 7:25 uses palaioo meaning to make old or antiquated and thus to wear out by time and use.
This verse is the only use in Scripture of the Aramaic verb bela which means wear away or wear out as friction wears our clothes or sandals. The related Hebrew verb is balah and its cognate is found in an ancient Ugaritic text rendered “The oxen are worn out” or unfit for plowing. The Hebrew verb balah literally described the Israelites’ garments which did not wear out in the wilderness (Dt 8:4; 29:4; Neh 9:21, contrast Josh 9:13). David used balah figuratively in Psalm 32 confessing that…
When I kept silent about my sin, my body wasted away through my groaning all day long. (Ps 32:3-note) (We dare not “glide” by this passage while we are here. Beloved, let us heed David’s “warning” regarding the effect of unconfessed, undisclosed sin [not brought to the light of 1Jn 1:7, 9] to warp and rot our soul and cause spiritual “erosion” and “decay” in our hearts [cf Pr 4:23-note]. Praise God for the mercy filled gift of confession and repentance. Ps 32:5-note, cf David’s brokenness over his sin against God when he committed adultery with Bathsheba and then the murder of Uriah – Ps 51:1, 2, 3, 4, 10, 11, 12, 13, 17-note)
The Revelation amplifies the meaning of wear down the saints the apostle John recording that…
It was also given to him (the “Beast [see in depth description]” to whom “the dragon gave” him his power = Rev 13:2-note, Rev 13:4-note) to make war with the saints and to overcome (nikao – conquer) them, and authority (exousia) over every tribe and people and tongue and nation was given to him (equates with Antichrist’s right and the might to exercise worldwide rulership). (Rev 13:7-note)
He will intend to make alterations in times and in law – The exact meaning of this phrase is not certain as illustrated by the following comments from several very conservative (literal approach) expositors.
That said, I will offer the following “postulate” for your judicious consideration (Be a Berean – Acts 17:11-note): In Da 9:27-note we note that the Antichrist puts an end to sacrifices and grain offerings and commits the “abomination of desolation” which Jesus declared (Mt 24:15-note) would mark the beginning of the Great Tribulation, the last 3.5 year period, referred to as the “time of Jacob’s distress” (Jer 30:7-note). This seminal event in Israel’s history is in a sense associated with the Antichrist’s making “alterations in… law” when he put an end to the Temple sacrifices (which [during the Daniel’s Seventieth Week] the Jews had reinstituted most likely using the guidelines of the laws of Leviticus).
John Walvoord – He (Ed: Little Horn, Antichrist) will also attempt to “change times and laws,” that is, to change times of religious observances and religious traditions such as characterize those who worship God.
Donald Campbell – He will attempt to change moral and natural laws of the universe, apparently without success. An example of this may be seen in the attempt made by the leaders of the French Revolution to replace the seven-day week established by God with a ten-day week. Their efforts failed. (Daniel: God’s Man in a Secular Society)
Gleason Archer – This dictator will impose a new legal system on all his subjects, doubtless based on totalitarian principles in which the service of the government or the state will be substituted for the absolute standards of God’s moral law. All dissent or opposition to the decisions and policies of the little horn will be adjudged treasonable and punishable by death. His program will include a revision of the calendar; this seems to be implied by “to change the set times” (zimnin , lengths or periods of time). (Gaebelein, F, Editor: Expositor’s Bible Commentary)
Ray Pritchard – No one really knows what this means. Will it involve somehow adjusting the time schedule so that we no longer have a 24-hour day? Will he invoke a five-day week? Or a 15-month year? Changing the laws indicates that he will attack the moral foundations of society. When the antichrist comes to power, wrong will become right and right will become wrong. Moral values will be inverted as he makes his final mad bid for world domination. (Animal Parade)
Whitcomb suggests that “The “law” he will intend to change will probably be the law of God. One law of God is that “the soul who sins will die” (Ezek. 18:4, 20; Ro 6:23). The Antichrist, speaking for the “father of lies,” will seek to reverse this foundational law of the moral and spiritual universe, just as Satan said to Eve: “You surely shall not die!” (Gen. 3:4). (Whitcomb, J: Daniel- Everyman’s Bible Commentary)
Given into his hand – Hand as so often in Scripture and in this context signifies power, so that the Little Horn exerts power over the saints. The Lxx translates this with the verb paradidomi (word study) which conveys the basic meaning of to give over from one’s hand to someone or something, especially to give over to the power of another.
Interpreters that do not hold to a futuristic fulfillment are forced to concoct other entities they think might represent the Little Horn. For example, the Treasury of Scripture Knowledge sees the little horn as papal writing…
In assuming infallibility, professing to forgive sins, and to open and shut heaven, thundering out bulls and anathemas, excommunicating princes, absolving subjects from their allegiance, and exacting obedience to his decrees in open violation of reason and Scripture. (Note: I totally disagree with this genre of imaginative interpretation of the little horn which literally is an individual not an institution.)
TIME, TIMES, HALF A TIME
Time, times, and half a time (time is the Aramaic noun ‘iddan – see note below) – Do not miss the important point that the sovereign God sets a time limit on the Little Horn’s power over the saints!
Most conservative commentators (and even many liberals) agree that this time phrase equates with 3.5 years (Time = 1, times = 2, half a time = 0.5 totaling 3.5). But how can one be confident this is “years” and not months or some other unit of time measurement? Remember that the best commentary on Scripture is Scripture. With that in mind as one studies the Revelation there is a repeated time phrase (sometimes in days and sometimes in months) related to the last 7 year period known as Daniel’s Seventieth Week. Furthermore in Revelation 12:14 we observe the phrase “time and times and half a time” which corresponds to the same time period in Rev 12:6 described as lasting “one thousand two hundred and sixty days”, both these times equating with 3.5 years (42 months) and both occurring in the last 3.5 years of the 7 years (Daniel’s Seventieth Week). During this 3.5 year period (which Jesus referred to as the great tribulation) Israel will be persecuted and this fact correlates well with the phrase given into his hands. (cp parallel time in Rev 11:2-note). When these events are studied (in context) it becomes clear that Daniel and John are describing the same event and specifying the same duration of this event as “time and times and half a time” or 3.5 years. There has been no obvious, specific historical fulfillment of this event, which awaits a future fulfillment at the time of the 10 king stage of the fourth Gentile kingdom out of which arises a world ruler who subdues 3 of the 10 kings and overpowers the saints of the Highest One.
Time – Aramaic word = ‘iddan which indicates (1) a span or period of time or (2) in some contexts means a point in time. It is translated in the Septuagint with the Greek word kairos (see word study) not chronos.
‘Iddan – 13x in 11v all in Daniel – study passages for the various nuances of meaning – Dan 2:8, 9, 21; 3:5, 15; 4:16, 23, 25, 32; 7:12, 25.
See related discussion of this Aramaic noun ‘Iddan in the phrase “seven periods of time” in Daniel 4:16.
Whitcomb – This theme of the sufferings of Israelite believers during their future time of Great Tribulation is introduced here (and Da 7:21) in the book of Daniel for the first time, though it will be emphasized increasingly toward the end of the book (Da 8:24; 9:26; Da 11:32, 33, 34, 35; Da 12:10). Moses had predicted this in general terms (Lev 26:17, 19, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28 ; Deut. 28). Isaiah had spoken about it as a great purging time (Isa 4:3, 4), and Jeremiah as “the time of Jacob’s distress” (Jer 30:7-note). See also Ezekiel 20:1-49, Zechariah 12:1-14, and Malachi 3:1, 2, 3, 4. So devastating will be that final phase of “the day of man” that two-thirds of the nation of Israel will die and, “I will bring the third part through the fire” (Zech. 13:9; cf. Isa. 6:13). Israel’s Messiah assured her that “then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever shall” (Matt. 24:21). In fact, unless those days are “cut short,” none will survive at all, “but for the sake of the elect those days shall be cut short” (Matt 24:22).
Notice that the “beast” of Rev 13:1 which has 10 horns like the 4th Beast of Daniel 7:7 merges in Rev 13:4 into a beast who is worshiped. In other words the final ruler who is later definitely identified as a “beast” (Rev 13:12, 14, 15, 17, 18) is so closely associated with the Fourth Beastly Kingdom that they are discussed as if they are intimately related (See discussion of term “Beast”). Comparing the descriptions in Daniel and Revelation, one can draw the conclusion that the Little Horn of Daniel 7 is the Beastly Individual of Revelation 13, both describing the final ruler of the final stage of the final Gentile power.
Tony Garland goes in greater detail (Comments on Revelation 13:1) explaining that…
the symbolism of the revelation given to both Daniel and John concerning this time of the end often blurs the distinction between an individual and the government which he leads:
There can be no kingdom without a king, and no empire without an emperor; neither can there be a king in fact without a kingdom. We cannot consistently speak of imperial power and dominion apart from a personal head which represents and embodies that power. (J. A. Seiss, The Apocalypse: Lectures on the Book of Revelation) (The Apocalypse – Online Google Book – this quote is found on page 393)
It is very clear from what follows in Rev. 13 that there is something more than the Empire here in view. In Rev. 13:3-8 it is a person that is before us. We are satisfied that this same person is also described, symbolically, in the opening verses. As is frequently the case in the prophetic scriptures, the king and his kingdom are here inseparably united. Rev. 13:1+, 2+ portrays both the Empire and its last Emperor. (The Antichrist by A. W. Pink)
Is the beast out of the sea a man or an empire? The answer is both. (a) The beast is a man because his number is that of a man (Rev 13:18). Also the use of the masculine pronoun [auton] (Rev 13:8) to refer to the neuter [therion] (Rev 13:1, 2, 4) indicates that he is a human being. In addition, parallels between the beast and the Lamb indicate that he is a person: both have followers on whose foreheads are inscribed their names (Rev 13:16, 17; 14:1), both are conquerors (Rev 5:5; Rev 13:7), and both receive worship (Rev 5:8; Rev 13:4). (b) At the same time the beast is an empire over which the man reigns.
This fact is demonstrated by the symbolism of the beasts of Daniel 7. (The Beast from the Sea in Revelation 13 by Daniel K. K. Wong – Bibliotheca Sacra, Volume 160, no 639, July-Sept 2003).
sIGNED GP a MEMBER OF THE motley bunch of the unread
ALSO A zealots willing to parley AND always ensure conflict is alive and well. The human condition, don’t forget.
ALSO the regular cacophony of unread brassbowls WHO contend.
David
There is no arrogance intended that is the thinking of a man in the streets. It appears that way because the unread instead of so conceding will want to pretend an expertise not had.
Do you recall that the first time this writer submitted an article you chided by saying that your readers were ordinary people or something like that?
If you have had a man sharpening knives all day for 50 years would you expect a blog of shiite talkers who never sharpen one yet to be experts in knive sharpening as well.
@Pacha
You have taken the comment out of context. There is a reason the blogmaster keeps an eye on word count and language of blogs posted. There is a reason commenters, including other academics- prefer to post anonymously on the blog, Anyway, enough- continue to share your ideas, do what academics do.
HERE ARE TWO NICE POEMS FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR
A SECOND CHANCE (The original title was no second chance)
If there were no resurrection, There would be no hope for mankind.
We would have no second chance And no peace of mind.
The love of God is clearly seen In the sacrifice of His Son, Who took our punishment and our sin
And offered redemption for everyone.
The good news of salvation Comes to us by the way of the cross.
God raised up Jesus from the dead So that no man needs to be lost.
Oh what love the Father has for us, Shown by the gift He freely gave.
So that we could have a second chance God raised Jesus from the grave.
GLORY HALLELUJAH- HE HAS RISEN
He is risen, glory hallelujah He has risen, triumphant alleluia.
He is alive, blissful elation He is alive, joyful celebration.
He is risen, peaceful expectation He has risen, eternal transformation.
He is here, cheerful jubilation He is here, hopeful affirmation.
Jesus is risen, just like He had said Jesus is alive, no longer is He dead.
So, what happens when you expose a diamond to UV light? They exhibit visible light, usually in the color blue – something known as fluorescence, or more rarely, a yellow or orangy light. Once the UV light source is removed, the diamond stops fluorescing.. And yes, UV light can technically destroy the surface layers of a diamond, too. The process of atom destruction is extremely slow, but the damage is still there.
RE If you have had a man sharpening knives all day for 50 years would you expect a blog of shiite talkers who never sharpen one yet to be experts in knive sharpening as well.
BUT WHEN A MAN HAS SHARPENED HIS BIBLICAL KNIFE FOR OVER 5O YEARS YOU SHOULD NOT EXPECT BIBLICAL ILLITERATES WHO HAVE NEVER SERIOUSLY STUDIED THE WORD AND SHARPENED THEIR BIBLICAL KNIFE TO COMPETE ….CAN YOU?
ONE WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT OVER THE YEARS HERE ON BU THAT THERE WOULD APPEAR ONCE SINCE ZOE, THAT THERE WOULD BE ONE PERSON WHO COULD FIT INTO THIS REQUIREMENT
Proverbs 27:17 17As iron sharpens iron, so one person sharpens another.
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO BIBLE ALL I GET IN RETURN ON BU IS BUTTER OR ICE IN THE HOT SUN………AND MORONIC MOUTHINGS AND CURSING
BUT NEVER ONCE A RATIONAL REBUTTAL
“It’s all about becoming the matrix”
“Proverbs 27:17 17As iron sharpens iron, so one person sharpens another.
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO BIBLE ALL I GET IN RETURN ON BU IS BUTTER OR ICE IN THE HOT SUN………AND MORONIC MOUTHINGS AND CURSING
BUT NEVER ONCE A RATIONAL REBUTTAL”
You don’t get Bu
who wears the Bu Crown
I wear the Bu Crown
That’s who
David
Does that biblical carbuncle littering the blog with incessant nonsense thinks that that foolishness is even read. All it is good for is growing the muscles in the thumb. lOL
@ Pacha
LOL
We often take ourselves much too seriously…. considering that we are all just clumps of everyday organic elements that somehow manage to ‘exist’ for about 70 years or so.
The ONLY evidence that is required as a basic starting point, being all around us, should be too obvious to someone like you for Bushie to need to point out, however, the second Law of Thermodynamics is illuminating.
It basically says that AS A RULE, All things tend to gravitate towards a state of chaos, UNLESS this is reversed by EXTERNAL INTELLIGENT intervention. This (Like the other Laws of Science) has been observed to be consistently true and irrevocable so, throughout all history.
Obviously then, IF THIS LAW IS CONSISTENT, some form of Intelligent external energy intervention would have been required to have INITIALLY established ‘Life on Earth’ as the intricate, finely balanced exercise in dynamic equilibrium that it has been now for many many millennia… by whatever means that ‘intelligence would have used’.
If you could agree with this as a fundamental starting point, without ANY reference to Bible, Church, God, or BBs, then Bushie would ask no more…..for a debate.
On the other hand, if you would wish to suggest that this MAJESTIC world which we brass bowls have been trying diligently to destroy with our greed, is nothing but a statistical accident of chance, then we can agree to part ways amicably. 🙂
“If you have had a man sharpening knives all day for 50 years would you expect a blog of shiite talkers who never sharpen one yet to be experts in knive sharpening as well?”
Reminds me of a man claiming to have 15 years of experience and being told
“No, you have one year of experience and 15 years of doing the same thing”.
In the case of the man who sharpens knives for 50 years, I’ll be generous and give him three months of experience. Brassbowl might just match up
Weights and beliefs
A problem can be approached from several different angles.
Different weights can be assigned to various approaches.
It is highly unlikely that an approach would be completely ignorant and wrong.
A proponent of an approach may have 100%confidence in his approach, but that does not mean he/she is correct. He is using a personal weighting scheme. Calling names and being insulting does not validate an approach.
The only energy i have today is to scroll and there is so much to scroll past…
good news, it don’t take much energy to read the posts that make sense..
but…if i had a blog, and BU is the real reason i don’t, the primary intent would be to educate, especially those who love to showcase their “ignorant” status and refuse to learn anything that would enhance what little western education they received that is useful to their existence..there is no way those individuals would remain in that condition so i can say there are ignorant people on my blog…exactly who benefits from that..
.no different to the parliament pretenders making sure that a LARGE segment of the society remains in a state of lack of knowledge, minus the critical thinking and education that would help them escape their predicament…..we see in living color the 50-year-old results of that harebrained crime…
we also see where it’s taking BU…
Steuspe
The Manifestation Explanation
The Mirror of the Mind technique of meditation
The Silva method
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ySLKmCl4p4
Bushie
This is why this writer will forever accord you maximum respect.
That you will go to the physical world to prove your point is a place from which only an idiot, and there are many here, could have problems with. For us that is a place of spiritual science capable of proof, replication, like any other.
And even while we remain unconvinced that your ultimate conclusion can be a result of this substantial argument you will be always a serious contender to be taken seriously.
However, your characterisation about a “statistical accident” is premature. For in all the universes, we are yet to know the frequency of life forms therein. We don’t know if in all the billions of planets what life forms there are, if any. The assumption that only Earth is so endowed may yet be misguided as recent releases from the Americans seem to confirm.
As scientific foundation, if they are right then all realities must be reassessed.
There is an idea that I see invading BU. What is surprising that several who may oppose each other share the same view.
The idea is that one must be trained in a certain area to comment on topics in that area.
This reminds me of the time
when ‘knowledge’ and books were available to just a few. We are long past that point. We should respect the acquired expertise of others, but we should always bear in mind that they are not all knowing or infallible.
JUDE V 3 DECLARES THAT THE FAITH (PISTIS) WAS ONCE (HAPAX) GIVEN TO THE SAINTS
WE ARE TOLD THAT BELIEVERS ARE TO EARNESTLY CONTEND FOR THE FAITH
THE GREEK WORD FOR “CONTEND” IS ACTUALLY A BOXING TERM.
THE BODY OF INFORMATION CALLED “THE FAITH”” IS ALSO CALLED THE APOSTLES DOCTRINE IN ACTS 2:44
NOW I DEAL WITH THE WORD
I HAVE SPENT TIME LEARNING TO RIGHTLY DIVIDE THE WORD OF TRUTH AS ORDERED IN 2 TIMOTHY 2:15 , AND I CAN AND WILL ALWAYS CONTEND FOR THE FAITH.
AND THE DEVIL AND HIS COHORTS ON BU AND ELSEWHERE CAN MOCK ME AND CUSS ME AS WUNNAH LIKE,
BUT NONE OF YOU CAN DEBATE BIBLE WITH ME EFFECTIVELY BECAUSE IT IS CLEAR THAT YOU DONT KNOW IT
NONE OF YOU BIBLE ILLITERATES CAN DETERMINE WHAT SHOULD BE IN THE BIBLE AND WHAT IS TRUE OR NOT
GOD HAS DECIDED THAT…..LIKE IT OR LUMP IT
BELIEVE IT OR NOT
I DONT CARE IF YOU DO OR NOT
AND I WONT LET YOU SHAKE MY FOUNDATION , SO YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME WHEN SO CUSS AND THROW THE HOT AIR THAT YOUR DADDY PUTS IN YOUR MOUTH UNTILL GOD TAKES YOUR BREATH AWAY…..AND YOU CAN NOT DO IT ANY LONGER
I HEAR LISTENING TO A JAMAICAN ON U TUBE PREACHING THE ANNUAL EASTER MONDAY BIBLE CONFERENCE IN KINGSTON JAMAICA.
AND THEN ……SOON AN IDIOT AND BIBLE ILLITERATE WILL SPEW YOUR NONSENSE
YOU GUYS NEVER GET ME ANGRY YOU JUST GIVE ME ABUNDANT MIRTH
re your characterisation about a “statistical accident” is premature. For in all the universes, we are yet to know the frequency of life forms therein.
AFTER THE STAISTICAL ACCIDENT YOU GOT TO GO TO GLYCOLYSIS ——-CAUSE ALL LIVING THINGS HAVE BEEN SHOWN TO DEPEND ON THIS METABOLIC PATHWAY…………..AND TO REPRODUCE YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DO THE HEXOSE MONOPHOPHATE SHUNT……AND THAT IS MORE COMPLEX THAN THE GLYCOLYTIC PATHWAY
YOU JOKERS CAUSE MY OBLIQUE MUSCLES TO HURT FROM LAUGHTER
@ Pacha
“For in all the universes, we are yet to know the frequency of life forms therein. We don’t know if in all the billions of planets what life forms there are, if any. The assumption that only Earth is so endowed may yet be misguided as recent releases from the Americans seem to confirm.”
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No disagreement from this end so far….
And BTW, any presumption that Bushie assumes that “only Earth is so endowed” is premature, and in fact erroneous.
The ONLY stipulation so far is that it logically required (somehow, and from somewhere,) a “significant level of intelligence” to have initiated the complex systems that drive life on Earth…. and anywhere else for that matter.
We (and this includes those of your intellectual ilk) are yet to understand even the BASIC ATOM, far less the REALLY complex systems inherent in the everyday processes all around us. It cannot therefore be unreasonable to accept that some form of intelligence that exceeds our best (whatever form that may have been) – had to have engineered the process…. unless, of course, ALL of the Laws of Nature were subsequently reversed.
So ground rule number 1;
There exists somewhere an original Big Boss Engineer…. or Creator, existing in yet to be agreed form.
So-called experts often disagree vehemently. As I have pointed out before, when they disagree, logic dictates that they cannot all be right. Many have been proven wrong.
Daily, regular folk are called upon to make judgments on the pronouncements of so-called experts.
What we have on BU is a growing disregard for the common sense opinions and the powers of discernment of the “non-academic”.
We have relegated some to second class BU citizenship! Elitism, even in the rumshop!
Some claim to be so concerned for the average man but they really have no respect for them.
To me, that is telling!
I remain unimpressed by anyone who feels the need to so elevate themselves and a few others to sages and wise men.
I have heard great wisdom coming from the “unlikeliest” of places.
If some of these puffed up poppets ever wielded power, they would be dictators, the very thing they rail against! But they would convince themselves that it is all for the best. They would not listen to the average man because, in their opinion, he would have nothing of value to say.
“Brassbowls, sheeples and cunts!”
Oops, I forgot! Steupse, indeed!
“What is surprising that several who may oppose each other share the same view.”
as intelligent debates go, that is normal…no two people carry the same opinion, view things from very different spectacles but arrive at the same intellectual destination, many times, humbly so…
“”As you know BU has been a haven from inception for the intelligent and the ignorant. ”
the above comment is what is disturbing….these are not my words, there should be no haven for the “ignorant,” there should be avenues for re-education; and as witnessed daily on BU, those who many people, not only on BU, call “ignorant” view it as a badge of honor to display incessantly, to attack and try to pull down or banish those blogmaster see as “intelligent” and i mean ALL..no one escapes…
. because these “:ignorant” see themselves as enabled and WEAPONIZED……..
am still trying to make that make sense…what’s the point….what’s the end game…
“There exists somewhere an original Big Boss Engineer…. or Creator, existing in yet to be agreed form.”
The sun shines on all plants animals people planets in the universe 🌞 and everything comes from the Sun 🌞
And the Sun created itself Big Bang effect?
Sometimes we have to admit in our evolution as homo sapiens somethings remain unknown.
RE your characterisation about a “statistical accident” is premature.
DO YOUR BIG BANG AND DO YOUR “statistical accident”
AND THEN TELL ME HOW YOU GO FROM THERE TO DO THE GLYCOLYTIC PATHWAY TO CREATE ATP THE CURRENCY THAT IS NECESSARY TO PAY FOR ALL THE ACTIVITIES OF ALL LIVING CELLS. AND EXPLAIN HOW ONE CAN RANDOMLY GET THE TEN ENZYMES IN PLACE TO DO THE PATHWAY AND DO SO BEFORE YOU EVEN DO THE PENTOSE PHOSPHATE SHUNT
NOTE I JUST TALKING BIOCHEMISTRY AND GENETICS HERE—- NOT BIBLE….CAUSE WUNNAH DONT BELIEVE DAT….
BUT THEN THE BIOCHEM AND BASIC GENETICS OVER WUNNAH HEADS TOO
LOL LOL LOL
RE For in all the universes, we are yet to know the frequency of life forms therein.
THIS IS A SENSELESS WORD SALAD —–SORTA BIDENESQUE VERY HUMOROUS BUT THAT IS WHAT BU IS ESSENTIALLY ABOUT
I think it’s a fair question…should the “intelligent” on BU reduce themselves to the level of “the ignorant” to appease their warped world view…and massage their lack of knowledge…
RE Sometimes we have to admit in our evolution as homo sapiens somethings remain unknown.
ONLY A VERY BIG JACKASS WOULD THINK THAT THE GLYCOLYTIC PATHWAY OR THE HEXOSE MONOPHOSPHATE SHUNT COULD EVOLVE
ONLY A TYPICAL BU RUMSHOP MORON WUH LOSS
STATISTICALLY THESE ARE IMPOSSIBILITES
CAUSE YUH WOULDA HAVE TO SYNTHESIZE THE COMPLEX ENZYMES FIRST AND THESE ARE LENGTHY COMPLEX PROTEINS
IGNORANCE IS CERTAINLY BLISS
Day 21: Enlightenment
Om bhur bhuvaha svaha
Tat savitur varenyam
Bhargo devasya dhimahi
Dhiyo yonah prachodayat
O Self-Effulgent light who has given birth to all the lokas!
You, who is worthy of worship and who appears through the orbit of the Sun, please illumine our intellect!
Inner Tuning: I celebrate this most powerful of mantras that it may purify me and lead me to Liberation.
Deva Premal & Miten have been sharing the transformative power of mantra around the world for the last 30 years.
“as intelligent debates go, that is normal…no two people carry the same opinion, view things from very different spectacles but arrive at the same intellectual destination, many times, humbly so…”
I should be kept in mind that I was referring to a rather specific idea. What I consider as an erroneous idea
I was generalizing….which covers the whole spectrum. Personally, I stay away from certain debates….because of the: everyone sees things from different spectacles thing…..they can go around and around in circles a few times before agreeing on just one thing….had such an experience recently on a public forum, cut it short, left them hanging, could never get me to fall in that trap. Then days later, sheepishly admitting they were wrong…
@12:42 VG
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Evolution/big bang does not supply all the answers.
GP’s book does not supply all the answers.
The truth is somewhere out there. There is no need to embrace either of these approaches or to marry the two (as BT seem to have done) to get a working model.
‘All will be revealed in time’. Here, I have not embraced GP’s book, but I am stating that advancing science and technology will provide us with more answers.
Bushie
Ancient Afrikan philosophy, to which this writer is an adherent holds that there is a Creator,
This is something they knew. No necessity to believe.
It was these who gave a Creator, consciousness to the world.
As a pure scientist however, that is not necessarily so.
Certainly, the consciousness of the Afrikans is not represented in what passes for spirituality today and for a long time.
Now that we have made the above admissions about events of 15 billion years ago, yours is to pivot to the present and tell us what the critical links are in this age.
.
THEO
I am stating that advancED science and technology HAS ALREADY provideS us with THE answer THAT FOR
JUST GLYCOLYSIS TO HAVE EVOLVED IS A STATISTICAL IMPOSSIBILITY
I HAVE ALREADY ASKED THE MORONS TO TOSS 10 MARBLES (REPRESENTING ENZYMES) NUMBERED 1-10 INTO A BASIN OF WATER TO GET THEM IN A CLUSTER IN A SPECIFIC ORDER
I HAVE NOT ADDED IN THE VARIANTS THAT ACT AS THE CONTROLS TO DIRECT THE ENZYMES IN WHICH DIRECTION TO PROCEEED AND I HAVE NOT ADDED IN THE FOUR EXTRA ENZYMES THAT ARE USED TO MAKE THE PATHWAY GO BACKWARDS WHEN NEEDED, NOR HAVE WE ADDED THE COENZYMES. OR THE FACT THAT THESE ENZYMES ARE PH DEPENDENT AND THAT THE PH WILL ALTER SLIGHTLY WITH THE CHANGE IN CHARGE OF THE CELL AS EACH REACTIN PROCEEDS
NOR HAVE WE ADDED THAT ALL THESE ENZYMES ARE LENGTHY PROTEINS THAT HAD TO BE SYNTHESIZED
I KNOW THAT I AM DEALING WITH JACKASSES WHO DONT BELIEVE ANYTHING EXCEPT THE NONSENSE THAT THEY BELIEVE AND I AM SURE THAT YOU KNOW THAT IT IS .advancED science and technology HAS ALREADY provideS us with LOTS OF INFORMATION IN BIOCHEMISTRY
NOW WHEN YOU GUYS ARE READY WE CAN ADD THE HEXOSE PENTOSE SHUNT AS WE NED THIS TO DO OUR NEEDED GENETICS………AND THAT PATHWAFY IS MORE COMPLEX THAN GLYCOLYSIS
I DONT NEED THE BIBLE TO CONFOUND THESE MORONS ON THIS SUBJECT
WE ARE ONLY REALLY INCREASING THE THREAD COUNT
IF YOU CANT UNDERSTAND THE BIOCHEMISTRY HERE…YOU THINK THAT THE OTHER TWITS WILL.?
BUT I ENJOY MOCKING THE IDIOTS
AND GUESS WHAT OUR ANCIENT ANCESTORS IN AFRICA KNEW ALL THIS AND WROTE IT IN THIER BOOKS
Pacha
‘Ancient African philosophy’ is the original wisdom of mankind. It is obvious that they would have understood that there must be a ‘Creator’.
Even modern day brass bowls are forced to accept this reality. The alternative option is to suggest that unimaginable complexity and order (much of which is mutually interdependent, and cannot exists independently), is the result of an accident of chance.
LOL so, for example, the human eye just ‘formed itself’ over billions of years of lucky mutations, ..while the blind BBs fumbled about among the dinosaurs….
We now know too much to ignore what the Ancients took as a given….even when we try to act otherwise.
Ok so if we agree that there is an intelligent force somewhere that decided to launch this project ‘Life on Earth’, can we assume that there is a SENSIBLE objective being undertaken?
This is what Bushie would like to explore – and to demonstrate that this objective is so mind-blowing and so off-the-charts, that deliberate steps HAD to be taken to ensure that this knowledge-TREASURE would not be treated in the same manner as the traditional treasures with which humanity has been blessed (ie ending up with 1% of the brass bowls hoarding 95% for themselves and the remainder 99% scrunting..).
@Bush Tea
Waiting for it…the crucible called life.
Bushie
Well, we made a concession and asked a question. Instead of getting to the point you proceeded to extract another.
Is that a religious authoritarian streak coming out. Get to the point. We”re not here to be schooled or led by the nose
Wr ask again as above.
RE Waiting for it…the crucible called life.
WHEN YOU WANT TO READ CONCENTRATED SHITE YOU LOG ON TO BU
MANY YEARS AGO (50 TO BE EXACT) WE READ STEPHEN ROSE’S “THE CHEMISTRY OF LIFE””
SOME FELLAS STILL HAVE THEIR COPY IN PRISTINE CONDITION PERFECTLY PRESERVED
GP WENT ON TO LEHNINGER, MARKS & MARKS WHIITE HANDLER AND SMITH ETC ETC AND MIAREZ’S ANIMATED PPTS…. WONDERS HOW ANYONE CAN WHITE THE SHITE ABOVE
“SOME FELLAS STILL HAVE THEIR COPY IN PRISTINE CONDITION PERFECTLY PRESERVED
GP WENT ON TO LEHNINGER, MARKS & MARKS WHIITE HANDLER AND SMITH ETC ETC AND MIAREZ’S ANIMATED PPTS….
WONDERS HOW ANYONE CAN WHITE THE SHITE ABOVE”
GP believes there is no such thing as Bajan intellectuals
All intellectuals are White
The white man will tell the world what to believe
BOSS…You want the answer to the ONLY real question that matters – The very purpose for the existence of life on Earth …just like that…?
You are one unreasonable and inpatient intellectual though…
Here is the key point that brings us to 2022…
If this ‘Creator’ can exercise the intellectual capacity, and the quality of technology to create all that bio-engineering (for example that GP is so ‘gung ho’ about,) and the wonders of Nature in general, what then is the purpose of this ‘Project Life on Earth?”
Why did THEY not get to the END point and skip all this earthly chaos…? (That is rhetorical – not yet another question posed… 🙂 )
There happens to be a specific quality that CANNOT be ‘created’. It has to be specially DEVELOPED and NURTURED. Fortunately (or Unfortunately) for mankind, the Creator decided to invest in the development and nourishment of that specific quality…. and project ‘Life on Earth’ is required for the exercise.
That ‘un-creatable’ quality is called RIGHTEOUS CHARACTER. It is the natural inclination and propensity to do what is “right, just and loving”, to the very point of death itself. In order to achieve this, an environment of various combinations of stresses and strains; of good and evil; of highs and lows; and of love and hate is a specific requirement. Our Earth (and even more so now in 2022) represents the most PERFECT environment conceivable to facilitate such a needed crucible (thanks for that concept David 🙂 )
The Creator’s plan is therefore, AS WE SPEAK, being executed with absolute PERFECTION, and exactly as conceptualized, to produce the intended result.
With that background, it becomes very clear now, why we have had all the nonsense that we see with the misguided churches, the Bible, and PARTICULARLY with the ‘official’ churches such as the Catholics, and why Terence’s piece is but the tip of the iceberg of religious leptogenesis (whatever the Hell THAT really means… LOL ha ha )
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No Bushie, we have no abiding desire to know why life evolved or was created or both in any of the universes. Never recognized anything particularly special about the humanoid, compared to the Kemetic dung beetle for example.
Unreasonable yes. Inpatient yes! But you need to put some meat on our plate and stop beating around the proverbial bush, pun intended. 😄
You talked about “righteous character”. How do you know this? Does this have anything to do with the ancients? For the ancient people of Afrikan had already perfected such 20,000 years ago. They called it Ma’at.
What of these mysteries you posit when we’ve had them before.
We accept unreservedly that there is no end to corruption anywhere. That nobody will intervene in our stead and that we will destroy ourselves and corruption with us.
Put some meat on muh plate!
Pacha must be full of BS or perhaps not but is this new age kemetic school of thought for dreaded african hippies in america
The 42 laws of Maat from the Papyrus of Ani
I have not committed sin.
I have not committed robbery with violence.
I have not stolen.
I have not slain anybody.
I have not stolen grain.
I have not purloined offerings.
I have not stolen the property of the gods and goddesses.
I have not uttered lies.
I have not carried away food.
I have not uttered curses.
I have not committed adultery.
I have made none to weep.
I have not eaten the heart (i.e., I have not grieved uselessly, or felt remorse).
I have not attacked anybody.
I am not a person of deceit.
I have not stolen cultivated land.
I have not been an eavesdropper.
I have slandered nobody.
I have not been angry without just cause.
I have not debauched the wife of anybody.
I have not debauched the wife of anybody (repeats the previous affirmation but addressed to a different god).
I have not polluted myself.
I have terrorized none.
I have not transgressed the Law.
I have not been wroth.
I have not shut my ears to the words of truth.
I have not blasphemed.
I am not a person of violence.
I am not a stirrer up of strife (or a disturber of the peace).
I have not acted (or judged) with undue haste.
I have not pried into matters.
I have not multiplied my words in speaking.
I have wronged none, I have done no evil.
I have not worked witchcraft against the King or Queen (or blasphemed against them).
I have never stopped the flow of water.
I have never raised my voice (spoken arrogantly, or in anger).
I have not cursed or blasphemed the gods and goddesses.
I have not acted with evil rage.
I have not stolen the bread of the gods and goddesses.
I have not carried away the khenfu cakes from the spirits of the dead.
I have not snatched away the bread of the child, nor treated with contempt the god or goddess of my city.
I have not slain the cattle belonging to the god and goddess.
The Assessors of Maat are the 42 deities listed in the Papyrus of Nebseni, to whom the deceased make the 42 Negative Confession in the Papyrus of Ani. They represent the 42 united nomes of Kemet, and are called “the hidden Maati gods and goddesses, who feed upon Maat during the years of their lives;” i.e., they are the righteous minor deities who deserve offerings. As the deceased follows the set formula of Negative Confessions, he* or she* addresses each god or goddess directly and mentions the nome of which the god is a patron, in order to emphasize the unity of the nomes of Kemet.
“From the perspective of the traditional African approach to life, Maat can described as the key idea which recurs in most African societies as the influence of right and righteousness, justice and harmony, balance, respect, and human dignity. A way of life practiced everywhere on the continent, long before capitalism, colonialism, and neocolonial activities came to tangle the world.“
One way to liberate yourself and for Africa to self liberate is to restore maatic thinking. Maat is not only the law that balances and harmonizes a society, Maat protects it. More justice, more peace!
So how many years does one have to spend on BU to graduate from “ignorant” to “intelligent.”
in my 10 years here, i have not seen even one graduation..
BUSHTEA
I SEE YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT RIGHTEOUSNESS
HERE IS A LIKKLE OUTLINE TO HELP YOU FROM ROMANS
The first eight chapters of Romans is said to be DOCTRINAL 1-8 –
They tell us what we need to KNOW.
The final five chapters are DEVOTIONAL 12-16 –Practical. -They tell us what we need to DO.
In the first eight chapters we learned that righteousness is
required by our holy God,
revealed in Christ,
received by faith in Christ, and
realized in the life by the power of the Holy Spirit.
“The righteousness of God is the major theme of Romans.
We would agree that the term “righteousness” covers all that is necessary to reinstate a sinner as right with God, and therefore includes his position, his character, his privileges, and his prospects.
It embraces the past, present, and future, and it means “the state of being right.”
On this basis we can reasonably outline the epistle thus:
(a) Righteousness needed by sinful men (Rom 1:17–3:20)
(b) Righteousness provided by God (Rom 3:21-26)
(c) Righteousness received through faith (Rom 3:27–4:25)
(d) Righteousness experienced in the soul (Rom 5:1–8:17)
(e) Righteousness guaranteed as permanent blessing (Rom 8:18-39)
(f) Righteousness rejected by the Jewish nation (Rom 9–11)
(g) Righteousness manifested in practical life (Rom 12–16)
We accept unreservedly that there is no end to corruption anywhere. That nobody will intervene in our stead and that we will destroy ourselves and corruption with us.
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Even the dull among us have now reached that point of understanding, so no surprise on your part.
Despite this however, Bushie is unconvinced of your readiness for the REAL meat to be dumped on your plate.
This is because in fact, it was ALWAYS intended that project “Life on Earth” would end, and that the successful OUTPUTS from that experience would advance to the REAL intended challenge.
Your preoccupation with the unfairness that is endemic in this crucible we live in, suggests that your focus is limited to the project itself – rather than on the REASON for the project.
As you correctly say, PROJECT-WISE, there is indeed nothing particularly special about the humanoid vs the dung beetle, we both live miserably short lives, and then we die.
In terms of EXTRA PROJECT POTENTIALITY however, nothing can be further from the truth.
The REAL meat is actually the fact that project ‘Life on Earth’ is, in reality, a key part of the process of reproduction of the original ‘Creators’ of life on this planet.
(note that by DEFINITION, all natural living organisms reproduce. The process by which the ORIGINATOR of life itself reproduces themselves has to be the ultimate ‘meat’.)
“I SEE YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT RIGHTEOUSNESS
HERE IS A LIKKLE OUTLINE TO HELP YOU FROM ROMANS
The first eight chapters of Romans is said to be DOCTRINAL 1-8 –
They tell us what we need to KNOW.
The final five chapters are DEVOTIONAL 12-16 –Practical. -They tell us what we need to DO.
In the first eight chapters we learned that righteousness is
required by our holy God,
revealed in Christ,
received by faith in Christ, and
realized in the life by the power of the Holy Spirit.”
righteousness is intuitive like all spiritual and universal laws
you don’t need no fairy tale book to know about righteousness
Bushie
We would like to continue. But we see a christian carbuncle readying himself to copy and paste grandmurer.. Please excuse us for now.
GP
The righteousness of God is so all pervasive and extensive that it is possible to discuss it from any possible perspective. It is endemic in the very nature around us. Bushie is just as comfortable with the Romans perspective as with the agnostic perspective or even the official church’s dogma.
re Bushie is just as comfortable with the Romans perspective as with the agnostic perspective or even the official church’s dogma.
I MUST CONFESS THAT I DO NOT KNOW WHAT the agnostic perspective IS …..AND I AM ALSO SPEAKING OUT AGAINST DOGMA MY INTEREST HAS BEEN SEEKING TO MASTER THE APOSTLE’S DOCTINE ABOUT CHRIST AND THE BODY OF INFORMATION GIVEN ONCE CALLED THE FAITH. JOHN STRESSES IT IN HIS EPISTLES IT IS ABOUT LOVING IN THE TRUTH. PAUL SPEAKS OF THE ROOT OF FAITH IN ROMANS 4 AND JAMES ABOUT ITS FRUIT IN JAMES 2.
WHY WOULD I WANT TO LOOK AROUND FOR INFORMATION WHEN I HAVE BEEN GIVEN A MANUAL TO PERUSE TO ASSIST ME IN EARNESTLY CONTENDING FOR THE FAITH ALSO CALLED THE TRUTH IN GOD’S WORD
I DONT KNOW MUCH BUT WUH I KNOW I KNOW UM WELL AND IO CAN DEFEND UM
AND ONE WEEK IN 2004 WHEN ASKED TO TEACH KIDNEY PATHOLOGY AND I WAS CONFRONTED WITH ALL THE NEW STUFF IN THAT CHAPTER DUE TO THE ADAVNCEMENT IN TECHNOLOGY AND THE CHEMISTRY I UP MY GAME IN MY FAVOURITE DISCIPLINE TO HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE OTHER BASIC SCIENCES……..ANDI JUST LOVE TO BEAT UP ON PUNKS THAT TRY TO CHALLENGE ME AND DISRESPECT MY KNOWLEDGE
I AM NOT INTERESTED IN WINNING ANY ARGUMENTS OR PROVING HOW BRIGHT I AM——-I HAVE KNOWN THAT FOR OVER 65 YEARS NOW. I COME TO SHARE INFO AND I KNOW WHEN I AM CORRECT
AND I WILL NOT BOW TO BIBLE ILLITERATES OR MEDICAL ILLITERATES………EVER
ANYWAY I GONE………….FOR NOW.
“……..ANDI JUST LOVE TO BEAT UP ON PUNKS THAT TRY TO CHALLENGE ME AND DISRESPECT MY KNOWLEDGE”
it is the areas of your lack of knowledge that are weak
such as other religions philosophies
Jesus life not in the bible
Chinese Indian traditional medicine
SWEDEN, a moderately peaceful country is now “BURNING QURANS” (the plot thickens)
FRANCE burned BIBLES* during the French Revolution in the Age of Reason – NOW*…
ISRAEL* in turmoil: START ANOTHER WAR WITH THE MUSLIM
Zechariah 14:2 will become a “REALITY” in our lifetime!!!
Ego and the delusion of context which is a fiction as the reality is too much to bear
We are swimming in a sea of signifiers, none of which can hold the value of reality. Only the true Dharma can meet the God-standard. Shunyamurti references the Mahabharata (film) to shed light on the fourth Dharma that remains through every Yuga and every kalpa, the non-Dharma that is the nature of the Beyond.
Those following Bodily religions are celebrating holidays of Passover and Easter.
These religions that have an origin in time and space also have an end in time and space, not eternal religions, anbd this their understanding of time is limited. But they represent in their mythologies events which are to come and understood to be the destiny of that world which is trapped in consciousness identified with bodies and whose idea of God must therefore be distorted by that false perspective, that the religion itself can not succeed in liberating it’s followers from, but they prophesy a liberation. The prophesy it in the form of a presentation of a historical event, that did not occur, but that must occur
And now after all The Great Debate by the puffed up poppets, adopted and otherwise, this unread cunt has a question – who the ass does not know that there is so-called paganism incorporated into Christianity and its festivals???????
Steupse man, steupse!
Which is why I am not tethered too tightly to any one religion.
who the ass does not know that there is so-called paganism incorporated into Christianity and its festivals
MANY ANGLICANS AND ROMAN CATHOLICS WHO TEND MOST TO PRACTICE THESE DONT
MANY FOLK DO NOT KNOW THE ORIGIN OF THEIR DENOMINATION
MANY FOLK HAVE NOT STUDIED CHURCH HISTORY AND DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS
BUT WHAT IS VERY CLEAR IS THAT A SERIOUS STUDY OF THE NT ESPECIALLY I JOHN, ONE CAN EASILY SEE THAT MANY DENOMINATIONS REVOLVE AROUND A DAY, OR AN OBSERVANCE,OR A BELIEF AND SOME MISINTERPRETAION AND DISOBEDIENCE TO VERY CLEAR BIBLE TEACHING.
IT HAS BEEN SHOWN THAT EVEN IN ONCE VERY GOOD SERIOUS BIBLE BELIEVING WELL FOUNDED CHURCHES GO BELLY UP AFTER AROUND 60 YEARS, BECAUSE THE FOUNDER DIED, AND HIS CHILDREN DID NOT HAVE THE ZEAL TO CARRY ON, BUT MOST USUALLY BECAUSE THE FLOCK LEFT BECAUSE FALSE TEACHING ENTERED JUST AS THE CHURCH WAS WARNED BY JESUS IN MATHEW 7, PAUL IN ACTS 20, PHILLIPPIANS 3, ROMANS 16:17-20, E OF WELL 2 PETER 2, JUDE 30-19 ETC
MOST DENOMINATIONS DIFFER BASED ON A FEW ERRORS– A FACT UNKNOWN TO THE BIBLE ILLITERTES THAT PONTIFICATE HERE
“MOST DENOMINATIONS DIFFER BASED ON A FEW ERRORS– A FACT UNKNOWN TO THE BIBLE ILLITERTES THAT PONTIFICATE HERE”
so which denominations are wrong with their followers going to hell
it went over your head that Muslims Hindus Buddhists all believe in Christ as a deity or prophet
“Leptogenesis: The Mythological Confluence Of Pagan Ritualized Churchianity, Judaic Rabbinization & Apocryphal & Midrashic Islam Aligned Into A Clash Of Religious Mythologies”
Now up to speed with the title. Found a dictionary that contains all the words here. Moving on to the text of the document
Om
Ahh
Hum
(Remaster)
Inner World
Dalai Lama