The blogmaster checked the Barbados Labour Party (BLP) website and the list of candidates to run in the upcoming general election is not current. The same observation for the DLP with a general election on the horizon only 16 candidates are listed. Needless to say manifestos are also a work in progress with the DLP website offering a ‘Coming Soon’ disclosure. Given the perilous state of the social and economic affairs in the country, should we be satisfied with the lack of urgency shown by the major political parties to ready its ‘political machinery’? Should the electorate be satisfied by the lack of urgency?
One expects after the Michaelmas break political parties AND operatives will ramp up activities. Unfortunately barring a divine intervention the next general election contest will be between the two major political parties pejoratively dubbed the Duopoly. Like many countries across the globe Barbadians have shown little appetite for third parties who for the most part have been unable to attract quality candidates and craft a compelling alternative message.
The next general election will be interesting for many reasons. At the top of list of political pundits is how the DLP will bounce back from the unprecedented 30 to zero drubbing in 2018. On the flip side there is a BLP managing a sick economy made worse by the ongoing panic resulting in a conservative 17% unemployment number. It is a scenario ready made for a political opposition to make good progress. Then again there is the political adage oppositions don’t win elections. Governments lose them. The Mottley government must be aware the pandemic has given rise to an anti-government sentiment with several losing general elections in the last year.
Will the central theme of the next general election be about which political party has the superior inferior leadership? How about the economy stupid. What we know is that tired narratives of old should not apply. We have a more enlightened electorate and active social media. The blogmaster is the eternal optimist. Then again what are the political options that spell a departure from the tired policies of the Duopoly? Credit to the government it has been promoting increase use of technology to improve efficiency to manage our affairs and forging linkages to non traditional markets BUT the same old issues remain. Have a read of post 2018 Auditor General reports, the state of the National Insurance Scheme, public debt accumulation, irrelevant education system to enable Barbados to compete in a global market, over-reliance on tourism, passive private sector; entrepreneurial class, declining social behavioral, increase lawlessness etc etc. Although the government is not solely to blame for everything ailing the country, it sets the tone.
Where do we go from here?
What should citizens demand from political parties given the signs of the times. What role must traditional media play to assist in the the transformation to ensure relevance. Recently the blogmaster viewed asocial media posting of a young female journalist who appeared to be besotted with Prime Minister Mottley because she was handed the opportunity of an interview. How does it contrast with trade unionists of yore who refused on principle to drink and break bread with those on the other side of the table?
A read of the tea leaves indicates NTSH.
Source: Nation
David
Disagree on a number of small points but not generally.
One, your analysis about the absence of third parties misunderstands even underestimates the corrosive nature of duopoly political structures.
Duopolists erect barriers to entry, for example.
Two, it is a misguidance for education to be designed primarily to try to satisfy the ever changing demands of capital. This mindset will have us always running around in circles to catch our tails.
Three, seems that you gave the DLP more functional vital systems levels than here perceived. LOL
Not that they are unlikely to make major reversals in traditional DLP areas. But even in circumstances where the total reversal of the last results is a slight possibility, this writer has not seen any evidence of the signs of life creative of such a revival.
@Pacha
Point 1, what are revolutions made of? It starts and ends with the will of the masses.
Point 2, or is about education ensuring we can compete whatever that means.
Point 3, governments lose elections.
David
We’re less confident in what you referred to as the will of the masses. Currently unconvinced about popular interventions to alter realities. Publics have ceased to hold their own minds, we fear.
David, when you start to corporatize education it will become more of a production centre like we have at Cave Hill, producing dysfunctional widgets.
One school in the US has even corporatized the classroom, the school., for young children. We have to be careful about this. Education should not be the inevitable race to the bottom, as implied.
Yes, governments lose elections in a real world, yes! But very little about the economy, the pandemic, the state of the DLP, is real.
@Pacha
You cannot ignore basic needs of people are food, shelter and clothing therefore there must be an element of aligning national strategic objectives to educational design. It does not remove the right to encourage learning based on interest but we have to plan our survival on the planet. The fittest will survive just as in the wild of the ni,al kingdom.
David
But we see no determination to get out of the national service station mentality.
And running around behind ever changing fads or percieved market requirements will not feed anybody. Certainly, not determinative of destiny.
@Pacha
We are human beings having to rely on man made constructs to survive. It will not be perfect. It will always be a work in progress. We need active engagement from the masses to ensure less complacency and corruption, more creativity and innovation.
The best analogy for DLP is ED impotency and an inability to penetrate due to cock blocking
As BU is generally BLP this is not an issue and no or little campaigning or new manifestos will be required
David
Implicit in your thinking is the presence of the hierchical structures which themselves may be the source of our problems.
We elect dictators and then beg for tender mercies.
The man made constructs you cite never seem to be made by us, for us. We never plan to, it seems.
This is not about seeking perfection. It’s about decades, even centuries, of continuously going down rabbit hole after rabbit hole. Does this treadmill not get staid, even stale?
@Pacha
The man made constructs are made by friends and family who sat next to us in school, university, played cricket and football etc. Unless we go back to bartering existing power structures fueled by the workings of the capitalist construct will continue to beguile us. Even in your beloved China the capitalist construct is alive and well.
“The man made constructs you cite never seem to be made by us, for us. We never plan to, it seems.”
had that same conversation on the continent last night….#laziness, backwardness, stuck in a colonial time warp, corruption, unskilled leadership, so many well OUTLINED reasons why the Black Afrikan diasporan is NOT MOVING FORWARD…and it’s all due to over half century of bad governance…just look at the AVOIDABLE mess they made of the fake republic that has no republic constitution and that says everything and definitely JUSTIFIES the necessity for my book…as i am being told.
https://african-online-publishing.com/books-2/
Capitalism = Socialise Losses + Privatise Profits = Zero Sum Game
The Capitalist Construct FAILED with the Global Financial Crises and Covid Pandemic where Governments bailed out banks and businesses which is informal nationalisation in all but name. At the local level a country of 300,000 is doomed to FAIL in capitalist rat race and socialism is the remedy to fix inequality and poverty and the way to go on a path to build or rebuild a new Republic nation as a long term endevour.
Equating the DLP with the BLP is nothing but propaganda on behalf of the DLP. Some here obviously want to slander the Barbados Liberal Party (BLP) by equating our Leader´s grand movevement with a crime syndicate.
The fact is that our beloved government has done incredible things since 2018. It has repaired roads, modernised public buildings, consolidated government finances, successfully battled hurricanes and volcanic ash and Corona, to name but a few deeds. Not to forget the many vaccinations and the natural immunisation of the dumb anti-vaxx masses. The fact that the Anti-Corruption Bill has so far been blocked from becoming law is entirely the fault of the DLP-affiliated senators as well as the enemies of the state in the outdated Senate.
If the BLP had ruled continuously since 1966, we would be in a much better position today, in civilisational, financial and economic terms. But we are unfortunately a democracy where a certain section of the population is still in the mental state of slavery and therefore votes DLP.
David
We have no love for any particular nation state on earth.
“Our flag is red. Our country is the future”
What you see as love weeee we see as existential realities your dead Western organizational principles cannot effectively confront.
So in defeat you are left without a paddle or a poe. But yet you insist that neoliberal capitalism must be made to appear to work.
Ours are merely to suggest China as an alternative model. Not caring whether capitalist or communist or socialist or cooperative republic.
We use Russia and Iran and Venezuela as countries outside of the Western orbit forced to find ways to develop.
We’ve admitted to being unrepentant anarchists but you can call us whatever you like.
David! What have been the equities in the community of people you present. Aren’t these the same people we went to school with who over three administrations also sat down in parliament and cabinet and oversaw the near bankruptcy of the NIS? Where are the equities in any of this?
Noted Pacha.
Good article by Garth Patterson. This is the second post which conveys the idea that mistakes were made in amending the constitution to become a Republic.
Surprise that we cannot get someone with sound knowledge of constitutional matters to refute the claim of GP3.
Did the Barbados Court rule on the constitutionality of government’s amendment of the Constitution?
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@ David Bu
Did you expect a miraculous change because we Bajanised our Head of State ? Many commenters thought there would be a change in how we do business.. But 99.9 % per cent expected no major upheaval and there was none. And we like it so. We are reasonably happy with who we are.
Similarly, you view politics as a game. Politics is about achieving the objectives of a good and stable society. Academic posturings are for amateur intellectuals. Our people need to work for their daily bread. We have no time for puerile games of political musical chairs.
When you and Pacha can outline and describe the good society we will discuss it. Continue to have fun. Meanwhile work out the philosophy of the bright ,new chaotic society that you speak so glibly about.
@Vincent
No to your question. Sensible commentators know it is a process.
Vincent Codrington
Weeeee must admit. Very fair comment, constructive, well timed.
Thanks
Infinity ♾
Barbados politics is not about good or bad as everything is relative
BLP are infinitely better than DLP (30/0= ∞ ) as things stand but you should bear in mind the system collapse theory
David
In the past and the future such comments were, are, and will be entreaties for things to remain the same.
@David
“Where do we go from here?”
Down the rabbit hole!!!!!
Just observing
@ OBSERVING
RE “Where do we go from here?” Down the rabbit hole!!!!!
SURELY YOU MEAN FURTHER DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE
And Where Do We Go From Here
A stronger people we must be,
Not muscles and stature, rather, more visionary.
DLP or BLP, Republic or Independence,
We must all be Loyal Sons and Daughters in transcendence.
Here in Barbados, with the World looking on,
Every “t” we should cross, “i” dotted and frivolity gone.
Remember from whence we came but know to where we must go,
Even the pessimists perceive a future, albeit bleak, they know;
Days are ahead of us, tomorrow depends on what we do today,
Our great forefathers sowed the seeds for progress not dismay.
Weakness not strength is apparent when our Nation votes 30 to 0,
Equally so, appointing a young, live, questionably unqualified National Hero.
Governments with one-sided mandates, that go unchecked,
Only leads to anarchy or some devastating effect.
For the people to prosper they must hear both sides debating,
Reports like Budgetary Proposals must be annually forthcoming.
Open discussions, even in this Covid pandemic can still be,
Media has evolved and now all can be part of meetings remotely.
Have a closer eye where you step, be vigilant with whose hands you shake,
Examine with greater scrutiny, decisions said to be made for your sake.
Remember, they can never please all the people, all of the time anywhere,
Examine if it is some of the people all of the time, And Where Do We Go From Here.
By Khaidji
@Khaidji
Good to see you after your hiatus 🙂
It’s sickening that despite what our ancestors were subjected to we still have to come along and clean up this crap dropped by useless leaders…at least it’s RIGHT IN OUR FACES THAT THEY CAN’T BE TRUSTED…do so at your own risk…
Pacha…don’t know if they are grandstanding or not but it’s all coming to a head, given what many don’t know, let’s see how it plays out.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/china-threatens-heavy-attack-against-joe-biden-and-the-us-should-they-rescue-taiwan/ar-AARJFcO?ocid=msedgntp
@David
Needless to say manifestos are also a work in progress with the DLP website offering a ‘Coming Soon’ disclosure.
+++++++++
Manifestos Shamifestos; why are you putting such faith in manifestos? Did the present Gov’t have any mention of the biggest change to Barbados constitutional life since Independence in its most recent manifesto?
@Sargeant
Ho do you propose citizens work to hold governments accountable if what they promise is not worth the cost of the paper it is typed on?
@David 12:16 pm
You answered your own question!
There is nothing in our system other than an exercise every five years where we go eenie meenie minie moe!
Until people speak out where it matters and journalists become investigative journalists then the circus will continue.
Just observing
Waru
We’re closing following events on all fronts. Thee West may soon find itself in a three front war, unavoidably of their own doing. Wars which they cannot win against either one of the three actors in the absence of the other two.
Let’s hope it’s just brinkmanship to get Iran, Russia and China to give minor concessions but the West are locked in the proverbial Thucydides trap and war or the surrender of global hegemony are the only options then.
And Where Do We Go From Here.
SOUNDS LIKE ONE OF THOSE ACROSTICS PRESENTED IN DE SUNDEE SCHOOL CHRISTMAS PROGRAM IN MY YOUTH
DO THEY STILL HAVE THESE SUNDEE SCHOOL CHRISTMAS PROGRAMS IN BARBADOS STILL
Closely
@Pacha
What is there to follow closely? Since the Cold War and SALT ALL have been watching closely and to what end? There is no benefit to the actors by threatening détente.
“Waru
We’re closing following events on all fronts. ”
interesting days ahead…
THE ESCHATOLOGISTS ARE FOLLOWING CLOSELY TOO, AND A LOT IS MAKING MUCH MORE SENSE THAN EVER BEFORE. UH LIE?
@Khaidji
I enjoyed your words
Some were rather insightful
David
War starts long before bullet fly and end long after. Indeed, the end of a conflict requires a political solution, which is a writer surrender, armistice, etc
When you see Biden meeting with Putin or Xi. When you examine the readouts issued afterwards. When you mince the words of security officialdom in Washington , Beijing and Tehran. When you see actors holding democracy confabs. When you see actors testing the defenses of potential belligerents. And on and on, these are some of the things to watch.
When you read Pentagon reports on war game scenarios and see that in every theatre America cannot defeat any of their perceived enemies.
When you understand that America cannot mess with Iran for such a mistake would lead to oil at 1000 dollars a barrel overnight because Iran will set West Asia on fire. Israel will not survive. And if this happens it’s the end of Western civilization, so called.
All these and more. We are talking about military science. Sure, some of the potential outcomes have massive implications for Barbados, economy.
@Pacha
Let us hope good sense prevails. If it does there is no defense from it by Barbados and others.
Soooo…if it is known that B = D….who will win, or what their manifesto is, becomes irrelevant…sooooo….what is relevant?
@NO
We have to hope that some thing will give, perhaps an encounter of some kind.
btw…anybody read that new 160+ page ++Procurement Act++ before the House?
This is why you do not play games with these beasts, they are very dangerous and deadly, that list of names should have been handed over RIGHT AWAY..
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/haiti-s-moise-was-probing-officials-linked-to-drug-trade-when-he-was-killed-nyt/ar-AARJzMX?ocid=msedgntp
“Some of those who were captured confessed that retrieving the list with names of suspected drug traffickers was a top priority, the Times reported, citing three senior Haitian officials with knowledge of the investigation.
“The document was part of a broader series of clashes Mr. Moise had with powerful political and business figures, some suspected of narcotics and arms trafficking,” the Times wrote.”
Well David
Think we’re long passed the hope stage.
This is how the geopolitical, geostrategic, chessboard is currently situated.
David, you are going to deeply dislike this reading of where we are.
American cannot defeat anybody in conventional war. Meaning, the use of nuclear weapons becomes attractive. Even the socalled battlefield nukes.
But America did not go to war with Britain to dislocate it as global empire. In fact, they were allies in the recent century.
What we are saying is that the political settlement which normally happens at the end of hostilities could happen before, like in the case of America and Great Britain. This is what diplomacy seeks to achieve.
And an early settlement maybe better for America and its allies, the world. But that settlement of global leadership would see the Russians and the Chinese exacting from America things similar to what they demanded from the British.
These may include the dismantlement of 1000 military bases globally. The dethronement of the US dollar as primary reserve currency. The payment of massive war reparations. The dismantlement of their nuclear weapons. The removal of Western control of international institutions like the IMF and World Bank, and so.
The sooner the Americans would accept these or similarly anticipated Russian and Chinese terms the better their negotiating position might be.
This is where we are at. Like it or not. Just a matter of time before the West is driven to war or waves the surrender flag. And this situation is not just a function of externalities but what is happening within the countries of the West.
@Pacha
Missing from your opinion is the fact China depends on US and wider G7 market to export product. Also there foreign investment portfolio to consider? It is not just about nukes.
Northern…this info was around before i came on BU….10 years later the same conversations are being held. No progress whatsoever.
https://barbadosfreepress.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/andy-armstrong-spills-the-beans-about-corruption-and-fraud/amp/
Imagine that…the tag team arguing about which of them is the most corrupt….when we told people that they could not believe it….straight from the mouths of the lowlifes themselves..come 2023 and the same lying promises will be reapplied on the electorate….2 elections cycles later. to make it over half century of these parasites…….same old…
https://barbadosfreepress.wordpress.com/2011/02/28/two-barbados-political-parties-argue-over-who-is-most-corrupt/
“But we haven’t forgotten, and we want Bajans to remember, that there’s not a lick ‘o difference between the two large political parties in Barbados. Not a lick ‘o difference in philosophy or practice – only a different bunch of piggies fighting over the public trough.
As Member of Parliament Dr. Duguid said, there’s no way any Barbados politician will vote for Integrity Legislation.
So relax, sit back and enjoy the show as the DLP and BLP try to convince Bajans that THIS TIME it’s gonna be different. Honest, Honey, I’ll never hurt you again. Trust me. I promise…”
David
You are a scholar and a gentleman.
Yes, war happens on all fronts. For example propaganda is war waged to alter perceptions, killing the will to fight of one’s opponents.
When you talk about markets let us consider the case study of Russian gas to Western Europe. Without it Europeans freeze to death. Without it, Russia may send it to their allies in China, willing to buy any amount.
Of course, this is a two-sided sword. Can be deployed as a sword or shield.
In short, America as a debtor nation to China and Russia its strategic ally are more needed by the West than they depend on the West, anymore. This status quo was not arrived at by accident.
@Pacha
Putin is bluffing. The bear is looking for attention to remain relevant on the geopolitical chessboard.
“As Member of Parliament Dr. Duguid said, there’s no way any Barbados politician will vote for Integrity Legislation.”
yall better start gearing up for the LITANY of LIES marching into 2023…because obviously they hold the same views in 2021 that they held in 2011, still no integrity legislation, just some sealed envelopes which no one knows how many lies about assers they hold…
David
That does not make sense. Putin does not play those game. All the military analysts are coming around to this writer’s views.
Maybe you should ask the Georgian Republic which after threatening Russian national interests, circa 2014, Putin rightly invaded, if Putin or Xi makes that kind of sport. This is NOT the place for children, or so liked minded.
Ask the Ukrainians, after Putin, returned Crimea to Russia. Ask the Americans whether than is a truism. Don’t you see that both Xi and Putin are making iron clad demands of the Americans. Ask the American after Russia confronted them in Syria in defence of their ally .
Putin does not play those kinds of stupid games.
@Pacha
The Russian economy is not resilient enough to take an embargo.
@Pacha
The sorry BREXIT episode exposed Borisâ inferior leadership skills. Plus he is distracted with changing pampers.
just some sealed envelopes which no one knows how many lies about ASSETS they hold…
i would imagine that du(no)guid aired his mouth in the days when they were feeling ALL POWERFUL, ARROGANT and UNTOUCHABLE…they could not see the corruption and fraud ever ending, it was a couple years after that they and their minority friends spent REAL MONEY and went after the blogs to shut them down………they are shit outta luck today too….how could you be sucking monthly salaries out of taxpayers whom ya BEGGED FOR VOTES, and for YEARS ON END and DETERMINED not to be held accountable for corruption, fraud, thefts or anything else….
David
Have noticed that Boris Johnson is down in the polls and possibly facing a stab in the back. Under growing pressure.
The factotum, Keir Starmer, of Labour is leading by 9 points in one poll.
An idiot is leading a jackass. This is what your democracies have come to. Same in Barbados or worse.
Pacha…they are saying all that is needed is one tiny push…
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/boris-johnson-s-days-in-no-10-are-numbered-just-one-more-push-and-he-ll-be-out/ar-AARIGYa?ocid=msedgntp
This is what your democracies have come to. Same in Barbados or worse.
EVERYTHING HAPPENING AS ISTO BE EXPECTED
SOON THE NATIONS OF THE WORLD WILL ALL BE ASKING FOR ONE SINGLE MAN TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS OF THE WHOLE WORLD
AND IT AINT GOING TO BE JOSEPH TO SUPPLY ANY CORN
IT WILL BE THE ANTICHRIST AND HIS ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT
SO GET READY FOLK
THE TOES OF CLAY AND IRON OF DANIEL 2 AND 7 ARE ON THE HORIZON
AINT DAT SWEET?
David
Now you are massively ill-inform on these critical matters.
The West has had economic sanctions on The Russian Federation for many years.
And Russia is now immune to their sanctions as a result of building massive internal production capabilities.
Russia no longer borrows in international financial markets, has non-Western supply chains.
Should they be removed from the SWIFT interbank system, Russia has its own international exchange system ready to go. Already a high number of international transactions are happening in the national currencies.
The only other point of exposure would be Visa and MasterCard. And if the West cut these off the Russian national Mir card is already in use.
Russia has already surrendered all its foreign holdings in Western banks.
These are the last arrow’s the West has in its quiver. Should actions would be a self inflicted wound as the Europeans would have no way to pay for oil and gas and therefore will freeze to death.
Even America now imports their second highest amount of gas from Russia. Given the vitual collapse of the false economy of America to be a significant producer.
David, we have yuh rassoulll check-mated. Game, set and match. Yuh dead, lay down nuh.LOL
@Pacha
US sanctions are labeled ‘light’, this you know. Do not underestimate the effect a NATO collaboration bodes for Russia. Also do not underestimate the impact of being kicked off the SWIFT network.
THE AMERICAN BAR ASSOCIATION CODE OF JUDICIAL CONDUCT
CANON 1
A Judge Should Uphold the Integrity and Independence of the Judiciary@
Barbados crooks lawyers and judges cant even get past these two lines! there are
7 CANON/s , So how can crooks write laws or even a new Constitution for Barbados?
This is nothing more than a Ri-Ri Republic a Private Group of RICO
The Blog Master post as if there are only two parties in Barbados what will you write about after they are both Reduced to jail? Bajan Free Party!
David
Don’t be like Columbus! Russia already has extensive trading relationships with other countries which have been extra territorially sanctioned by the USA for up to 40 years. Iran, Syria, North Korea, Belarus, Zimbabwe, Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela and many more.
But you are the one to grossly underestimate the stampede coming soon from the worthless US dollar as more and more countries ditch it.
Soon it shall be blowing about in the streets with nobody stooping to pick them up.
Yuh dead David. Lay down neh!
We will wait to see if your crystal ball is true.
Waru
Yes
Pachamama is destroying all of these regimes, mercilessly.
David
Have we ever made a forecast, as we deploy scientific methodologies, proven wrong.
Np need for Crystal balls.
Mottley says ‘active citizenship’ critical to democracy
https://www.nationnews.com/2021/12/12/mottley-says-active-citizenship-critical-democracy/
By the way, NATO is a joke of an alliance. It is nothing without American arms, money. It’s such a standing joke that the French and the Germans are thinking about another European army. NATO could not last for a week against the Russian army. What they are good for is being the mouthpiece of Washington, giving a patina to a false international consensus thinking. Nobody is frightened for America. Nobody is frightened for NATO, a motley bunch of boys scouts.
“SOON THE NATIONS OF THE WORLD WILL ALL BE ASKING FOR ONE SINGLE MAN TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS OF THE WHOLE WORLD
AND IT AINT GOING TO BE JOSEPH TO SUPPLY ANY CORN
IT WILL BE THE ANTICHRIST AND HIS ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT”
Next war will be about IT Technology and Biowarfare
Not one to encourage your hallucinatory Revelations
but, are you saying BU’s Pachamama is the anti-Christ
David
From demand to pending ultimatum.
You have to have an appreciation for diplomacy, and the Russians are task masters at it, to realize how close a pending ultimatum comes to hostilities.
https://youtu.be/z53JTui_2MY
I remember watching this a couple years ago.
https://youtu.be/NOk27I2EBac
Too much control, very unhealthy. Imagine that in an insular closed society that lives exclusively to perpetrate STIGMAS…
“From demand to pending ultimatum.
You have to have an appreciation for diplomacy, and the Russians are task masters at it, to realize how close a pending ultimatum comes to hostilities.”
Russia views Poodles UK as the easy target and weakest link
Pacha….the world is in serious turmoil am seeing some really unbelievable things happening everywhere, we must pay attention. tourists are being told in Los Angeles to stay away they cannot be protected, the whole world just went wild..and the weather is pitching in a display.
So is it true that the newly refurbished A& E at QEH has no bathing facilities for patients amd no adequate water supply for basics during a deadly pandemuc and is causing a dangerously developing situation……yall can’t do better than this, must some level of government incompetence and lack of care for those who elected this bunch be exposed every day…..
FYI
https://imgur.com/TFhs5Q6
Since 1991
Hi Rabbit,
Is the article from 1991? Is that the Advocate?
It appears that we recycle everything.. good/bad ideas, legal/illegal acts. What is funny that what is bad/good for D can become good/bad for B.
so payment in bonds were illegal and unconstitutional 30 years ago when the current government was in opposition but it’s totally legal now under the same constitution and same government with new faces ……don’t fear, if the electorate is mad enuff to reelect whom they threw out in 2018…they would pull the same illegal acts…..just THROW this one out as well and let them all scramble to survive the UPHEAVAL………
that’s Nationews..i posted it to the other thread…as a link…
I think they passed a law that purports to make it legal. But if it clashes with the Constitution, I believe it would still be illegal.
Unfortunately, the bonds will probably be paid in full by the time your legal challenge makes its way through the courts.
I notice that there is an attempt to separate the debts incurred by this administration from the debts incurred by the last administration.
This is just an election talking point being set up.
Government is a continuum. The debts of the last administration are the debts of this administration. Those who have beem owed the longest should be paid first.
There is no before May or September 2018 and after May or September 2018 as far as Government’s debt is concerned.
All this Government has done is express an intention to pay.
David
Forgot to tell you yesterday, but assumed you knew.
When you support America, NATO, et al over Ukraine you are by implication supporting the fascists controlling Kiev.
These are the same people, descendants who supported the Third Reich. Who slaughtered hundreds of thousands of Russians, Pols, Slavs, Jews and so on, during WW2.
Funny how history is. The country without which and by losing 28 million soldiers as opposed to the Americans, giving only 500 thousand lives, to effectively win WW2 is now turned upon by the same evil forces they helped the West defeat, and the West. Russia is right to prevent this hippocracy from happening again, under any guise.
History is a bitch!
@Pacha
Are we hearing you to say you deny the right of sovereigns like Ukraine and others the right to seek NATO alliance?
David
There is no such right. Certainly not in military terms.
Was there a right for Cuba circa 1962 to have nuclear weapons pointed at Washington?
Let both answers be the same. If you still hold any semblance of fairness.
@Pacha
The answer is YES.
Whether geopolitics allow is another matter.
Tunisian president announces referendum and elections
https://aje.io/n8aurt Tunisian president announces referendum and elections
https://aje.io/n8aurt
David
You clearly have not a clue about the limits of your petty sovereignty and the causus beli for war.
The Duopoly continues to make the propagandists, apologists and obstructionists, who act on their behalf , look like clowns.
Each time they try to defend it , there is evidence that it is indefensible
Latest:
Henry Forde then leader of the opposition declared paying people in bonds is unconstitutional
Of course they come here defending Mottley who is now doing the robbery and now they have to deal with what Henry said in 1991
Pathetic
William…when i read that yesterday i was like WHAT….so where was Mia in 1991 when Forde assessed that situation…….it is confirmed there is no republic constitution so it can in no way be used as an excuse……..the colonial framework of the old one is still in place…some would say kinda sorta…….so what has the SLEIGHT OF HAND ACHIEVED…
my father-in-law used to say….the time ya wasted doing a halfassed job, ya could have used the same time wisely to do it properly..
“The Duopoly continues to make the propagandists, apologists and obstructionists, who act on their behalf , look like clowns.”
you do know that if they were not seeing it play in real time in front their delusional eyes they would swear on STACKS OF FAKE BIBLES that it’s not happening, that we are lying, cuss us and then go DIG UP IN THE ARCHIVES…🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.
the blighted plight of pimps, imps and Slaves.
@ WURA
Mia has successfully convinced people that she only entered parliament since she became PM.
Maybe she doesn’t have any finger prints. An incredible feat !
you do know that if they were not seeing it PLAY OUT in real time in front their delusional eyes …
“Maybe she doesn’t have any finger prints. An incredible feat !”
unless ya burn them off fingerprints don’t hide……AND technology today don’t accept lies without spitting out the truth…
Well, I never defended it. I said it was unconcionable.
I assess each policy on its own merit.
This one is WRONG!
We have to hope , in the interest of future leaders and citizens, that they are being taught , in the classroom , the difference between criticism and critique. It is obvious that sometimes in our collective haste to disagree with others we inadvertently confuse the two.
Our wretched leaders have identified this weakness and have exploited it with great alacrity. Nowaday, well thought out critiques are routinely branded as some form of criticism. This is most unfortunate and it usually propels well intentioned citizens to avoid national discourse.
There are people who have been carefully critiquing the region for years, and from time to time, they offer their views and are accused of being destructive or too critical.
Yes there is criticism and yes sometimes it is designed to often score cheap partisan points . However, it will be most unfortunate if we confuse it with critique.
Like I said, I hope our teachers are driving home the difference in the class room because if they are not we will certainly end up in a very dark place.
David
The Summit for Democracies another Biden failure.
As it turns out Biden wasted Mottley’s time as America tried to build a parallel international organization to bypass the UN which it has brutally dominated since the early 1990s.
This was the major reason for this confab. Of course, there are other legs to the machinations of the evil ones. They are also seeking to ditch international law for what they like to refer to as a rules based order. All of which is making no progress.
Unable to conduct crusades under legal fictions like the right to protect, R2P, as imagined by war criminal Tony Blair because of consistent vetoes at the UNSC by China. and Russia those whose economies are based on war are in trouble.
R2P got UN permissions to destroy Libya , Yugoslavia and others under an erected fiction of humanitarian militarism when the lead protagonist had carte blanche to do whatever they will at the UN.
Luckily for mankind a general absence of interest prevailed to scuttle Biden’s summit as his attempt to use Barbados and the motley gang of dependent countries as useful idiots fell flat on its face.
St. Philip, Barbados. Attempted Murder. What kind of person would ram a person not once, but TWICE with a vehicle? What kind of person did that?
MANGLED the elderly woman’s leg. Leg had to be AMPUTATED. All over a land dispute.
Attempted murder by any other name is still attempted murder! Naked!!
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The price of greed…billion dollar lawsuit..
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/factory-workers-told-they-would-be-sacked-if-they-left-before-tornado-employees-claim/ar-AARMEwC?ocid=msedgntp
Pay attention Barbados…..RACISTS ARE NO LONGER TRENDING….get rid of them permanently….they have had a 400 year old run…..time to RUN THEM OUT…
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/appalling-race-rant-woman-who-abused-doorman-to-spend-christmas-in-prison/ar-AARM3Sc?ocid=msedgntp
“Catchphrases, buzz-words, platitudes, happy-talk and bad analogies abound. We are told that we need to adopt a “holistic” approach and “build out” a “platform” as a “mechanism” for change. As Gladstone Holder used to say: “These are fine words, but what do they really mean?” What exactly are you planning to do to move object A from position B to position C to achieve objective D? Too often, what is obviously a very complex issue often involving competing legitimacies is reduced to simplicity. This is particularly true of issues relating to race, class and gender where the discourse quickly becomes emotive, where it is hardly ever thought out with a regard to finding a workable solution. Instead, a battle ensues, fought to the death as each side defends its constituency “to the death”.
Ralph Jemmott, Barbados Today
Tuesday, December 14th 2021
William…this is the WRAP…
the DOWNFALL of those who hate everything Black Afrikan….there can only be a brighter day AHEAD because of it…
AND…they better be NO PUSH BACK from the slave minded who are too comfortable to understand what’s been happening , still is and now EVOLVING..into a NEW DAWN around them….upside is they HAVE NO POWER ANYWAY….the only danger comes from the holes in their faces…which are about to be SEWED SHUT…
let’s see if those in the parliament can see what’s unfolding…not that they can stop it either….but let’s see the reaction..
To a cross section of the population’s credit, they have been actively seeking and getting help on how to WEAN THEMSELVES from the destructive colonial system…no one who is awake wants to pass that crime scene on to the next generation